Cid's real power is the absolute sociopathy he shows towards the world. His sister gets kidnapped by bandits and is in real danger, and all he can think is how the situation is gonna help his LARPing.
Tbf, he is somewhat of a 'Dangerous scenarios' connoisseur because it is a perfect opportunity for him to carry out his LARPing fantasies. A group of terrorists invade your schools and plant a bomb in the assembly hall where everyone is held? Go counter-terrorist operation with everything you know and have while defuse it cinematically.
Or the terrorist attack on the school where he hangs them from the building in a “Pirates, ye be warned” scenario, and sets up a room full of corpses to toy with Rex.
Is even worse in one of the later arks were he basically abandons beta to whatever to try and avoid the girls finding out about his lies about "shadow knowledge "
@@dudsummon3803 Abandons her in a place that is virtually no threat to either of them, or are you further ahead in the novel than I am, I wonder? Aren’t you referring to her being left with someone she could easily kill at any time? I base this on how easily they kill the things considered monstrous threats in that arc which Cid and Beta consider too weak.
What makes Cid overpowered is his responses of power is completely dependent on his opponent's ego, which also makes all of his fights fun. If his opponents don't have much of an ego, he'll take them out in more straightforward ways; but if his opponents talk and think about how unfair everything is, he'll show them a level of unfairness beyond their ability to comprehend. Cid understands that to flex, he must attack the other person's ego.
and that's how he's able to destroy Iris' ego at the end of the season 1. Girl had to went into meltdown after the fact that Cid can just level the entire kingdom at his will, and yet the people still think she's the strongest amongst other Dark Knights
What I love the most about Eminence in Shadow is that this anime *specifically* chose to go where no Isekai anime has dared to go: embrace its cringe and have fun with it.
The funny thing about his Reincarnation is that he thought the truck was his magic powers awakening. The reason for this is because he was hitting his head on trees and rocks as training and gave himself a concussion.
I agree with Ani, what makes Shadow OP is basically dedication. Without it, he would never had a fraction of his power, magic or not. Never saw another MC who completely disregard the main plot, makes the writer his pet, and all just to be cool. He doesn't even care if someone sees him or not, otherwise wouldn't be a "shadow". He even says in the last ep that he should be less conspicuous which is hilarious looking at the damage on the background. Peace
Funny enough though skill is the actual reason Cid is op. In terms of magic Aurora actually has a lot more but she’s actually surprised at how much magic he apparently has and thinks it’s more than her. He has such a mastery and control of his magic beyond anyone in his world that an attack that would take 1x magic would take 1/10 of the magic to use due to him not wasting any excess magic, that’s why the slime suit was created to fully conduct his magic. Even in physical stats Beatrix isn’t incomparable to Cid like we saw. He used some like similar to Touka in Chivalry of a Failed Knight of manipulating the processing ability of the brain. In the fight with the rain he blended in to the sound of nature/rain and Beatrix didn’t even notice he was behind her that’s why he seemingly disappears to her, not because he blitz her but bc he actually just walks past her without her noticing bc she’s so focused on Shadow that she’s tunneled visioned on him without noticing the sound of the rain which he blends in with. Same with Iris fight and etc but let’s be honest skill or no skill she kinda just rolled and flexed on her the whole fight. Big Iris L.
Isn't his magic also so dense it became purple? And he reshaped all his bones and muscles to optimal fighting performance with magic that even without magic enhancing him he's still superhuman + he's always training so his earlier feats are performed by weaker versions of him.
Also, a note Nux, this dude (AniNews) goes through all the light novels, which is why he knows what Cid's goals are. So when he says that Cid is yearning for a good battle, that's because the inner dialogue in Cid's head actually says that.
U right bro, but i don't think he will listen to this, he isn't wrong but he already have an image to "what makes cid op". I personally think that Nux explains "why" cid is OP and Ani explains "how" he does to be OP
@@Unsurpassable Nux is only looking at the end result being Cid still at 100% HP and his opponent at 0%. He's misses the point of the process in which Cid does that, which is what AniNews is talking about here. Cid matches his moves to his opponent and only uses the absolute minimum amount of magic, movement, and strength necessary to perfectly counter them. After the opponent has fully exhausted everything they're capable of Cid then finishes them off with the most overwhelming and cool looking move possible. He only ends the fight after he has fully analyzed and systematically dismantled everything the opponent is capable of. This is why his so many of his opponents seem mentally broken after fighting him, all their efforts and experience in combat is overwhelmed by an amount of effort and experience so large they know it is impossible for them to ever accumulate. This is only made worse when Cid uses atomic and they realize he also has a capacity and control of magic just as far apart from their own. We see very clearly with Iris. She was extremely shook when she realized the skill difference in the tournament with Mundane/Shadow. But the atomic at the end is what broke her since there is not a single aspect of combat where she can ever hope to challenge Shadow. It's why Beatrix tells Iris that there are entities that mortals simply cannot hope to rival and to just not think about it. If Iris finds out that Shadow is legit a normal human boy she would either go insane or find some way into deluding herself that he's not human. This is never explained in the anime, so if you haven't read the LN and manga you won't get it as we see with Nux here. The only time it is referenced in the anime is when Alexia says that Cid's swordplay has reached the level of transcendence yet is ordinary at it's core. Cid doesn't use any secret techniques or difference in physical capability to overpower his opponent. He reads them, predicts their every move, and counters them with minimal effort. To anyone other than Cid it simply seems like Cid has divine foresight, but Alexia realizes that it is actually an absolute mastery of swordplay on a level so high that it mimics the abilities of a god such as being able to see the future. That is why she calls it a transcendent realm of mastery. Alexia only realizes this because it is the same fighting style she is seeking, one that doesn't rely on a naturally large mana pool or any talents but rather is an accumulation of knowledge, experience, and training. Nux isn't getting this because he has already formed an opinion based on the information in the anime. He's not really wrong either because the anime doesn't tell you this stuff. But it kind of annoyed me that he's saying that AniNews is wrong when AniNews is clearly basing his opinion off of a larger amount of information (LN, Manga, Anime) than Nux is.
I think the point being made in the AniNews video is that the overwhelming magic he got from isekai doesn't matter he was overpowered on Earth and all he needed was literally the existence of magic to become tactically stronger than everyone in the isekai world. Him being physically stronger than his opponents allows him to beat them but not overpower them the way he can by using his knowledge and barely any actual magic.
Well yes and AniNews is also using the LN to make his analysis on Cid’s psychological profile when it comes to fightjng, which is why his explanation is much more detailed and not just “he fights for the perfect victory” because it can’t be summed up like that perfectly like nux keeps saying.
Also his talent in magic didn't matter too,because he always engineer his own body to contain as many magic as possible.ignoring the Concept of 'talent' by that world's people
@@skyking4557Exactly, Cid himself says in the novel that he is constantly manipulating magic inside his body on a subconscious level as a form of training, even when he is not doing anything he is still training, innate talent means nothing to him 😂😂😂
Cid is so OP even lord Nuxanor doesn't understand him. From my observations he doesn't soley take plesure from acting an an Eminence, but also from planing futre cool and eminence-like actions and seeing the results of them. He also isn't always acting the part of either of his fake characters. Egzample would be the two aforementioned situations. In all three media including anime you can see how he fails to hide the glee he feels when lisening to other characters talk about his latest Shadow stunt. Even thou he is willing to sacrefice everything to play the part he still takes little plesures like the 'conversation' during the battle and talks with Alexia, where he reveals a bit of his true selfe. A part of him that is neither Cid nor Shadow but the chunibyo teenager. Also the part about him twisting reality isn't something that deserver much attention in my oppinion. Ainz does the same but he is yust aveare of it. What I find the most interasting is the seperate POVs it creates. The cringy, entertaining, chounibyo side where Cid roleplays and the POV of everone else that experience the concequences his actions create which is the emotional, serious and main (in my opinion) story. Now i have more to say but the coment is streaching too long so yea.
Cid Kageno breakdown. "Kageno" can be split into "Kage no" which means "Shadow of" or "of Shadow" "Cid" can be taken from the spanish "el Cid" which would mean "the Lord" so that would make Cid Kageno into "Kage no Cid" which means "Lord of Shadow". Thinking about how in the Show he is the "Lord" of a Organisation called "Shadow Garden" and he calls himself "Shadow". The name they gave the prtag "Cid Kageno" is so freakin good when you know what every word/name means and it's so simple but yet to me it's the perfect name for a guy like him in a show like this
@@biggusriggus7693 well, the "Kageno" catched my eye, it sounded to much like "Kage no" and yeah after doing the math i googled the meaning of the name "Cid" and you can tell how surprised i was when i read the spanish meaning to it. whoever gave him the Name needs a payraise
@@biggusriggus7693 Hey, we humans tend to look past the very thing we are concentrated on so don't worry, it happens to all of us ^^ would had flew over my head too if i would not had implanted the word "kage" from Naruto (Ho-Kage, Rai-Kage, ect.) so deep in my head in my younger years to instantly wake me up whenever i read or hear anything similar to "kage" ^^
As much as Nux thinks he understands Cid he also doesnt because the anime isnt the novel, im a manga reader and even compared to that the anime lacks a lot of cids inner thoughts, the novel has even more Cid is always thinking, every fight isnt just how to make it cinematic but how to theroughly overpower the opponent unless he's angry
Tbf even in the novel we rarely get Cid's thoughts during a fight. Usually his fights are told from the perspective of people watching or his opponents, then we go back to him in the aftermath. Which I believe is absolutely on purpose, so we can see the fight the way the world sees it, before learning the stupidity that was going through his mind lol. The times where we do get his thoughts though are hilarious, like when he thought Ragnarok was just some random super strong giant bat on fire the whole time.
There are two things about Cid that I believe also makes him a better OP character One: like it was stated he has Actual Combat Exp that he himself refined to the max both before AND after being "Isekai'd" and Two: NO Video Game System like Mechanics, it's all him and no unknown system helping him to win.
If you anime-watcher only, make sense you dont think the analysis was so true in combat sense because anime didnt show the monologue like light novel and manga should be
Cid is like someone so good at a video game the only way for him to meet the game even slightly difficult is by doing the flashiest things possible and pushing the game to it's absolute limits kind of like someone who only owns one video game and constantly has to find new ways to entertain themselves even though the game it's so easy to them.
Kindof like GTA 5 I had to make my own fun cuz I didn't enjoy the game as much as my buddy but played for him. I did things like "Hey can a cook a frag and take out that helicopter we are running from?" or "How mad will that player be if I snipe him out his car AFTER he despawns off my screen but before the car does?" Not to say I was "so good at the game" but sometimes you gotta make your own fun when the game fails to provide.
Here's something I heard that, I think, sums this up almost perfectly: If you gave a two year old unlimited materials and budget, they could design a bridge across the Atlantic that could carry dinosaurs. _Anyone_ is able to design a bridge that stands. But an Architect is someone who can design a bridge that *barely* stands. Cid doesn't just build victories; he _engineers_ victories. He isn't handed as much power as is necessary by the plot and just throws as much as is necessary at the problem until it falls over. Cid crafts the most careful, accurate of blueprints and designs a victory with the most efficient and aestheticly pleasing use of his virtually unlimited power budget.
Also, Cid was the only person in existence to successfully be able to use slimes as material. Most materials have around, at most 10%, magical conductivity. Mythril is valuable as it has 50% conductivity. The slime equipment of Shadow Garden? 99%! There have been attempts in the past, but they were considered too incompatible with humans to be useful. Apparently, our boy got the memo and was like, "Nah, fam. I got this!"
The "conversation" that Cid is having I sort of understand, if you've ever played a fighting game at competitive level it's pretty much the same thing. Playing a opponent at casual level where they just do random stuff with no in depth thoughts behind their move is different than facing competitive player that constantly tests what you can or cannot do and if you'll respond to whiffs and how you'll respond and how they'll respond back and how you'll respond to their response and so on. I think it's called nuances
Cid uses his mastery of combat to beat his opponent on a psychological level. Instead of moving 20 meters away to dodge, he moves 2 millimeters. Imagine if Mike Tyson punches someone in the face and they look like they got hit, but then they look back up without a scratch
Cid actually does tries to have a "conversation" during his fights, as he loves to overpower people through those "conversations". That is why while fighting with Olivie he said that "a fight without conversations is just jarring" - if i'm not wrong something similar was said in the anime as well. You can say he thinks of the results of various scenarios for the sake of making it look cool, but he takes all the fights seriously as he is looking for a way to win in the most overpowering manner. And everything explained in the video are all of explanations from Cid's various monologues from Light Novel or Web Novel, where he explains various abilities of his and thought process during his fights.
Nux, I think you forgot how Cid beat the hero of legend while his magic was sealed, WHILE he was breaking that same seal. His skills make him built different, the magic he uses is almost exclusively used to fuel his edgelord roleplay
Exactly, he defeated that olivie clone with zero magic and sheer battle skill, that's just how good of a fighter he is, even the narrator describes the difference beetween cid without magic and the olivie clone like "heaven and earth", nux definitely doesn't understand cid's character
Dont forget... Every character cid plays... fights difrently He goes the extra mile of making up a fighting style for the character he is going to play
Nux just fyi, Aninews bases his videos with LN / Manga info so part of what he mentions is based on the LN like hte conversation part and that he had to try a little, and that most of his battles are won out of pure technician over mostly just using bigger energy.
Nux: This is too much cringe, no wonder Giguk didn't show the actual program, I ain't watching this. Nux after watching: I love this cringe! I'm engrossed in it! Cid is my awesome GAR! Me, evil-y grinning in the shadows: The infection is complete, another has been converted.
he is actually so overpowered because he already knows nobody can beat him because of his prowess, unlike other protagonists who think they can lose, That was never an option for cid because he knows the opponents are that much weaker. He isn't worried because of his good battle IQ, which means an uncertain fight is something he kind of hopes for because it would be cool for cinematics.
Nux, the LN actually do talk a decent bit about this in the beginning. He focuses on cinematic, yes, but he does focus on making for himself “the best fights he can”.
The funny thing about Cid is that He never needed to use His Atomic in any of His fights. He's only ever used it after He's completely overwhelmed His opponent with His skill. The nuke is how He FLEX's on them.
I think the point of this is that most isekai protagonists do that thing where some knowledge of their old world makes them strong, or gives them opportunities others wouldn't have. Cid would probably be a revolutionary fighter just based on his martial arts knowledge- which is why Shadow Garden is so strong- everyone is trained in "his" style. It's just that on top of that, he can also turn into a nuclear bomb.
Actually cid is just such a fighting genius that his training methods are so meta that he surpasses the entire verse despite having similarly no innate talent at all, light novel readers will know that cid is training since he was a baby and got reincarnated and he literally never stopped training since them, in the light novel he also says that he is always manipulating magic inside his body on a subconscious level as a form of training, he is training even when he is not doing anything, he isn't strong because of the plot but because he trains like a obssessed lunatic and is always developing new methods to get stronger that no one can even conceive off, keep in mind that this is the same guy that hit his head onto a rock, crucified himself, killed bikers and criminals even on his previous life, stopped taking baths, fasted and converted himself to a plethora of religions just to attain magic and practice his combat skills 😂😂😂 Saying that his power comes from the plot is a disrespect to his character, the plot only makes it so that his made up bs is real, but all of his power and fighting prowess is entirely his own credit
The guy in the video essay is definitely talking about the light novel version and nux is going with the anime. All 3 version are notable different with less and less MC pov
AniNews isn't really an analyze video though, his title may sound like it but the video is more of trying to deliver details left out from the anime that were in the Light Novel. That's what his videos has always been. Here I believe, he is trying to convey a side of Cid's character that was only told in the LN.
As an early LN and manga reader, I feel like an elder. Literally I feel like saying "I'm better, bigger and smarter than you" I wasn't able to convince my friends to read the manga and LN cause anything that came out of my mouth about this manga was total nonsense. They looked at me as if I was a weirdo with downs syndrome and alzimers. Sheeh...
i have a theory of the fight against the princess iris. in the first episode while cid is dueling his sister, we see him moving faster than his sister can see, then returning to normal. during the duel with iris, it shows her reactions to images shown in the same grayed out screen as the earlier fight with his sister. my theory is that he can move so fast that would cut iris, heal her, then return to position so that it would seem like he never moved, just to fuck with her, like dio and polnereff.
He might have been told about what happening before he was reincarnated by the demon God, it highly possible that she becconed him in the 1st place,but he forgot so it's like he made things up, it's pointed out that the witch is the demon God and she's quite taken with shadow even tho she was only a left over piece of her and had no recollection of meeting him.
Diablos isn't a god, sorry to inform you of that. We know enough to know what Diablos is and I don't really want to spoil that, but Diablos isn't a god at all.
the best thing Cid/Shadow just literally casually not big deal of his past life (he's so true with in our real world..when your human..there's always a limit) legit love this so much!!!! just legit!!!
Finally, someone who appreciates a true op character. A character that is op by triple SSS rating every encounter single-handed and with eyes closed all for the sake of an undisputed and perfect victory.
Cid admits he's weaker than Grease during their fight btw. That why his technique is what makes him op. Even if he's physically weaker he still overpowers his enemy with skill.
@@arknovel4032 No, he outright states that grease has more magic power than he does after he uses the pills. When the actual character says it there really isn't much room for interpretation.
No but this is how in deep the novel goes. And it even explain how the speed of atack and entry led styles to hiperfocus on that. It's very fun to read tbh
Cid would win a battle against ainz, Tanya, Natsuki subaru, Kazuma and Naofumi in their world before they were reincarnated and transported to the other world
Fun fact, even if in the anime we saw him having fun during the fight with iris and Beatrix in reality the only time he had fun during a battle till now was just against best girl Aurora ( The Wich of Calamity ).
Wow what a wholesome video! So educational and encouraging! This video made my day! Thanks Nux for helping out the world, everyone should like and sahre this video!
Well..... Light and Web novel really highlights Cid's thoughts. He did try to understand Aurora during the battle to the point where Cid and Aurora has a connection to each other.... In web novel Cid even dated Aurora's finger
One thing I would like to say: Yes, Cid is basically rewriting the world according to his whims to fit his desires. But the way Nux says it makes it sound deliberate. It isn't. To points that give proof. 1: Early on when the show is vocalizing his thoughts, it clearly shows he thinks the girls are just playing along with him for his sake. Not actually serious. When they leave he thinks they are just growing up and don't want to play that game any more but don't want to hurt his feelings. 2: When he is in the Sanctuary trying to pull the sword out and fails. He expects the hero of the "story" to show up and do it. But instead its the villain that shows up. The "variation of the formula". He is genuinely surprised by this. It is still what he wants but the surprise that he got the variation shows that its not intentional. Rather than him actively warping the world for his own sake it would be more accurate to say that the world seems to exist for his sake and actively responds to his desires without him even knowing that is what is happening. Which is honestly for the best. He wants to the The Eminence in Shadow for real. So him creating the world and its events as some god would be counterproductive. But this is my take as an anime only person. I may pick up the light novels later. But for now this is based on what I have seen and inferred from the anime and comments around it.
Yeah Cid is not aware which is the main joke/bit of the whole story. Cid is also deliberately not aware as he could easily find out most things if he cared to press anyone about it. He simply doesnt care to find out as its unimportant. All he cares about is going somewhere to act either of his 2 roles for his own satisfaction. He is broken enough to not have to worry about anything that arises from his actions and so the world is left to deal with it.
The most scariest power to have if you are an isekaied protagonist, is the ability to always be right, and sarcastic people would d¡£ in ten seconds because of it. 😂😭
The real reason why Shadow is the most OP Isekai protagonist is that he is insanely strong, but also he understands the awesomeness of the words: I'm only using 1% of my true power! That is why he will never use his full strength at the start of the battle. Because victory must look effortless and cool, but also he must look like he not even tried to be serious. Not a big blast at the start, which can looks like he cares enough to tried, but lazily stopping the sword with a finger like Aizen.
To me it is not about his overall technique and efficiency at using magic being so great that he overpowers everyone else, but that his overall technique and efficiency at using magic are so great that he has almost infinite freedom to CHOOSE how he overpowers aka flexes on everyone else. As Nux said, Cid doesn't actually need to try to battle his opponents. The only "struggle" he ever faces is how to most stylishly and one sidedly finish off his opponents. His delusional ambitions and training have quite literally made him so "overpowered", that every battle is never truly a proper fight to him, but just an opportunity for him to leisurely show off how ridiculously overwhelming his eminence in shadow character is in every imaginable aspect.
Despite what you say, he's not just trying to flex. He's trying to have a conversation. Insta-winning through exploits is something Cid hates, unless the opponent is not worthy of a conversation. It's literally said in the video. The guy has read the whole novel so he is way more valid than any anime-only can be. Cid states several times that he's yearning for a proper battle and a conversation. You guys are just ignoring the objective facts and only looking at the comedy side.
Bending reality is strong sure, but there is something to be said about getting isekai'd while already knowing how to fight as well as he does, it just amplifies everything compared to other protags that try and bulldoze stuff. I get the point the guy is making, it just adds to it. The guy makes the challenge of a fight in how he wants to appear, since he can already overpower everyone anyway because of those other reasons.
Long story short every fight in the show is basically the momon vs jaldabaoth fight. The opponent is trying his best to kill cid while cid trying to think on the coolest shit he can do to floor the audience
The best way to describe Cid, in my opinion, is that he isn’t fighting these people from the perspective of the strongest person. Rather, he’s fighting them from the perspective of a spectator to a fight between the stronger person and someone else. He knows just how much stronger he is compared to everyone else, it’s what he’s been aiming for this entire time, but that overwhelming strength isn’t everything. It’s about how he uses and displays it that matters most to him in comparison. Sure you can have the power of a literal atomic bomb, but what reason is there to have that type of power is the whole world doesn’t know it? If the whole world doesn’t see it? Experience it to some capacity? Understand it and, in that same regard, understand just how far beneath you they really are? It’s why, no matter how much of a display he chooses to put on, Shadow never loses. You brought up the Witch of Calamity, which is also my favorite fight second only to the one between him and Beatrice, but I have my own take on that. She didn’t compare to him and that’s why he managed to defeat her as easily as he did in the end. It was all just the spectacle. It wasn’t about seeing how she fought or gauging her power. It was about putting on a show that not only he could be pleased with, but that would make sure everyone realized in that very moment just how much more powerful he was at the end of the day. He’s the most powerful being that we know of in the anime at this point, but he displays it in the way an actor would do so because that’s the main difference between him and other OP protagonists. It’s not about being the strongest anymore because he’s already the strongest. It’s about how he shows everyone else that he is the strongest.
i do agree with this point Cid peaked in his old world, because of Natural limits in this world where Natural limits are much highier, people have not learned there are hard limits and methods to work around them while his opponents are making these big over dramatic swings with power behind them, Cid knows the % of power he needs to deflect it. and often spends the first bit of the fight blocking and dodging (talking with swords as he calls it) and actively get impressed or disappointed by this. acknowledging that Alexia has a "simple" sword style and that Aurora the witch is what "Talent" is. wondering what her real peak with training would be. the whole Red pill thing, is from the idea that too much magic causes damage to your body while Cid is like... are you sure? and states that if you know what you're doing that issue is a non-factor. he even figured out how to undo it. and Teaches the rest of Shadow Garden how to use magic without issue too you could even say that him Guessing the Heros and the Cult thing, was him reading context clues he thought he was over analyzing. not only is he OP from a power stand point he is also OP from an intelligence stand point, too the point he doesn't realize it
Rimuru is OP because of his assist skill, the Great sage, before it evolve. If not he will still remain as a blind slime just eating in the cave for a very long time or might even die before he meet Veldora.
I think Nux, while right about the whole "Wanting to make a fight a spectacle for his Eminence in Shadow persona", I also believe he is basing his information more on the anime. This is understandable, not everyone has time to read the light novels or the manga. However, I don't think AniNews gets it entirely right either, in the light novels we get a great deal more insight into what Cid is thinking when he is fighting, (the quotes he uses on the screen), but he also forgets why Cid got so good at it. Cid wants to overpower everyone sure, but he also wants to find a worthy opponent, someone who will push him to go full power, someone who will make him show that yes, he is overpowered, but once someone can challenge him the gloves come off and he annihilates them too. "I am atomic" is not a single use ability, I am more than certain he could drop more than 5 in a fight if he wants to. Like the fight with the Witch of Calamity Aurora, she pushed him just enough that he had to stomp her harder to make him look even cooler/stronger/scarier to everyone watching. TLDR: He wants someone strong enough to push him, maybe get a hit or two and then he goes "playtimes over" and literally just annihilates them just like Nux pointed out at the end, he uses just enough power to beat them while still seeming to not break a sweat. (Yes I have watched the anime and read the manga/lightnovels. No this does not make me an expert, but I also don't have a RUclips channel to rant on either lol.)
Unless it has been stated by the source material, I don't know if it was or not, I don't think he is writing the laws of the universe he is in. I personally think that maybe part of his abilities when he was brought over is an all knowing understanding of the world he was brought into, but he isn't aware that he has it, so it feels like he is just the best at guessing that there ever was.
what sets Cid apart from most other Isekai protagonist aside from maybe Lugh is that unlike other Isekai Protagonist which are completely carried by their overpowered stats, is that Cid actually knows how to fight and get's more mileage from gaining magic than an average joe like you or me it's like how whenever Batman get's superpowers in the alternate universes he becomes an absolute menace Like Dawnbreaker Batman or Speedforce Batman. It's an interesting dimension of Isekai that doesn't get explored nearly enough, the only 2 Isekais to lightly address this is Skeleton Knight, and Overlord, where despite being undisputedly overpowered, whenever Arc isn't fighting generic Mooks or demon beast, he actually gets his ass handed to him by more experienced fighters, Maples mother who used to be a Sword Saint regularly trounces him in their training sessions, because even though he is a max level character and can cast all the skills, his real-life battle experience and skill is still that of a normal person from earth. Ainz is also aware of this flaw he knows he doesn't have an optimized build for PVP which is why he's always looking for new ways to increase his power, whether by learning martial arts (a unique set of skills that weren't in Yggdrassil) or developing new forms of magic, in case another player or being with comparable power ever appears in the future, because having Max level and all the spells wouldn't be enough against someone like Lord Touch Me or another player of comparable skill and level.
The trope does tend to show up more in VR gaming anime/manga where you'll have characters who know how to fight in the real world destroy everyone who relies on the the in-game skills their characters have. I think it doesn't show up as often in isekai is because isekai MCs are almost always 2D cutouts that add little to the story.
AniNews got a little lost in his analises there. But I think the point was not how powerful he got because the Isekai, but how strong Cid himself was, regardless to where he got Isekaied. In other words, Cid is a Isekai protagonist in the True sense of the role, instead of a Power Fantasy Hero who just so happens to come from another world! Most Isekai nowadays are just a nobody who receives special powers during the transition (or after). What wouldn't be different from picking any random little shit already existing in that world and giving them powers. While Cid got the same starting line as everyone else, but, armed with all his expertise acquired in the previous life. That allowed him to go beyond the common sense of the new world, and push the boundaries of what's possible in this new environment. In Short, Cid got no Cheats, but still became OP! Putting it in a analogy, in the Isekai Gatcha, other protagonists are whales with Super Ultra Rare pulls. While Cid is a F2P user who didn't even used the free Starter Pack Gift!
You need to understand one thing about AniNews, he read the LightNovels, if he said that someone was more powerful than another, you just kinda have to believe it.
Technically if you think about it he isn't overwriting reality at all, His guess about the cult of diablos happed to be from a bottle of some liquor probably named after the legend of diablos which COINCEDENTALLY is real, and alpha would existed before him and was tested on by said cult after he turned her back wich is another coincidence. I don't think he technically brought that into the world since it existed before he thought it up if you catch my drift. Like if he wasn't there at that bandit camp she'd still exist and be a product of the cult.
8:42 It suddenly occurs to me, but ig a good example of "...not jumping 16 feet then dashing 19 back..." is in Elden Ring and the skill gap between veteran souls players (or just really good gamers) against newer ones, with the newer ones spamming bloodhound step and other OP stuff, stepping back against opponents whilst veterans taking a step forward 😂 (no offense to anyone btw, am talking bout a difference in experience) Example: ruclips.net/video/CymMzRhoh_c/видео.html (showing a difference in attack-handling expertise) ruclips.net/video/6B-uGWyqwkY/видео.html (showing how much of a punching bag the less experienced one is)
The thing about how aninews is that. this is the format he uses his to make his videos, and it's something I really love about his channel. I believe you should watch his other analysis videos they're very good,l.
I understand his point about Ainz. Ainz and co are overpowered because of the stats and such handed to them but are otherwise normal people. Cid is overpowered in his original world and then ascends further to become overpowered in his new world. Also, Ainz faces difficulties. Difficulties face Cid.
The real reason he does what he does is outlined in his internal monolog. Why do so many people disregard his internal monolog when analyzing his motivation?
Cid is like that one friend that picks Captain Falcon in smash, juggles you in the air, makes a disrespecting taunt, and then lands a fully charged backwards falcon punch at the perfect time between your attempts to dodge. With that level of skill, he could destroy you instantly, but instead takes the time to needlesly flex on you, cause "it looks cool"
Nux get it. He can beat people it just his personal challenge is how to make Shadow look cool while doing it. Edit: He Drop a nuke on that one guy because that one guy dare say he is powerful by drugging himself and not even showing anything fruitful to him which indirectly mocks him. he hates that, same with Iris who two on one him with a magical sword that was not made by her losing badly and dare say he is running away. you can mock Cid by saying his weak, but never mock shadow for saying you strong not when you ass was just whoop by him.
Plus he took pill guy as offensive for insulting the "plain" swordmenship of the girl. He shows him (and her) as a personal thing that hey this "basic plain" swordmenship can be Hella strong!
Everyone who likes the shows knows it's edgy, But that is precisely why we like them. it's Very Cool to see our childhood imagination(or trauma for some LOL) to be done that cool and that Cinematic. This was very cringe and edgy if they don't go balls deep and crank it to 11 out of 10 while taking the whole thing as seriously as any serious anime possible.
the "conversation" is like a trope of swordfighting where you can sense a persons heart by how they swing and parry... cid calls it a conversation because he can read their emotions and passion by how they swing and parry... only people who last in a fight can actually convey their feelings by how much their swings change throughout the battle
also anytime it was an important person to Cid, like Sherrys "father", and Alexia's betrothed... sherrys "father" he killed him exactly how he described killing her mother... Reece he killed by showing him his ultimate power after showing him true hopelessness shattering his sword in his borrowed power state... He sent the entire garden to find his sister and made his borrowed power opponent feel true disrespect and hopelessness by giving him a lesson in how to use magic be4 he killed him...
Yeah I get the point Cid is powerful without magic he honestly could beat them all with pure technique. But his need for more power (magic) helped him overcome a Nuke.
Cid's real power is the absolute sociopathy he shows towards the world. His sister gets kidnapped by bandits and is in real danger, and all he can think is how the situation is gonna help his LARPing.
Tbf, he is somewhat of a 'Dangerous scenarios' connoisseur because it is a perfect opportunity for him to carry out his LARPing fantasies.
A group of terrorists invade your schools and plant a bomb in the assembly hall where everyone is held? Go counter-terrorist operation with everything you know and have while defuse it cinematically.
Or the terrorist attack on the school where he hangs them from the building in a “Pirates, ye be warned” scenario, and sets up a room full of corpses to toy with Rex.
Is even worse in one of the later arks were he basically abandons beta to whatever to try and avoid the girls finding out about his lies about "shadow knowledge "
Now i understand where Eta get her ummm... Thinking
@@dudsummon3803 Abandons her in a place that is virtually no threat to either of them, or are you further ahead in the novel than I am, I wonder? Aren’t you referring to her being left with someone she could easily kill at any time? I base this on how easily they kill the things considered monstrous threats in that arc which Cid and Beta consider too weak.
Cid isn’t op, he is just a background character. Now that shadow guy, he is op.
Who even is cid anyways?
I think he was Alexias boyfriend
@@Placeholder93 rose's love interest
@@Placeholder93 I thought he was Alexia's dog
Oh shoot, i forgot he was Claire’s brother.
What makes Cid overpowered is his responses of power is completely dependent on his opponent's ego, which also makes all of his fights fun. If his opponents don't have much of an ego, he'll take them out in more straightforward ways; but if his opponents talk and think about how unfair everything is, he'll show them a level of unfairness beyond their ability to comprehend. Cid understands that to flex, he must attack the other person's ego.
This is a great description. :o
nailed that analysis, king.
and that's how he's able to destroy Iris' ego at the end of the season 1. Girl had to went into meltdown after the fact that Cid can just level the entire kingdom at his will, and yet the people still think she's the strongest amongst other Dark Knights
I’ll admit he is powerful, but not the most powerful isekai character. The most powerful isekai character is Rimuru Tempest from ttigraas.
What I love the most about Eminence in Shadow is that this anime *specifically* chose to go where no Isekai anime has dared to go: embrace its cringe and have fun with it.
The funny thing about his Reincarnation is that he thought the truck was his magic powers awakening. The reason for this is because he was hitting his head on trees and rocks as training and gave himself a concussion.
Exactly everyone thinks he killed himself on purpose
No he was delireous and rushed out onto the road like a dumbass, thats why its funny
I mean ... how do you think he found Truck-kun so easily? He totally got a hang in sensing magic! [/joke]
@@VivioSaf that's right!!
And in the end he did acquired magic, so he did sense his own Magic Awakening
@@markjustinbultron7371 😂
"communing with nature"
Because when experiencing a concussion his thoughts were disrupted and he thought it was zen XD
I agree with Ani, what makes Shadow OP is basically dedication. Without it, he would never had a fraction of his power, magic or not. Never saw another MC who completely disregard the main plot, makes the writer his pet, and all just to be cool. He doesn't even care if someone sees him or not, otherwise wouldn't be a "shadow". He even says in the last ep that he should be less conspicuous which is hilarious looking at the damage on the background. Peace
Funny enough though skill is the actual reason Cid is op. In terms of magic Aurora actually has a lot more but she’s actually surprised at how much magic he apparently has and thinks it’s more than her. He has such a mastery and control of his magic beyond anyone in his world that an attack that would take 1x magic would take 1/10 of the magic to use due to him not wasting any excess magic, that’s why the slime suit was created to fully conduct his magic. Even in physical stats Beatrix isn’t incomparable to Cid like we saw. He used some like similar to Touka in Chivalry of a Failed Knight of manipulating the processing ability of the brain. In the fight with the rain he blended in to the sound of nature/rain and Beatrix didn’t even notice he was behind her that’s why he seemingly disappears to her, not because he blitz her but bc he actually just walks past her without her noticing bc she’s so focused on Shadow that she’s tunneled visioned on him without noticing the sound of the rain which he blends in with. Same with Iris fight and etc but let’s be honest skill or no skill she kinda just rolled and flexed on her the whole fight. Big Iris L.
Cool
Well said.
Reminds me of that thing with Gas, only a small portion of it is actually used to make your Car move, so a lot of it is wasted
Or something like that
Isn't his magic also so dense it became purple? And he reshaped all his bones and muscles to optimal fighting performance with magic that even without magic enhancing him he's still superhuman + he's always training so his earlier feats are performed by weaker versions of him.
@@derplololol9717 idk lemme re read the manga for the 5th time and 2nd time since the anime came out ill be back in a day or so
Also, a note Nux, this dude (AniNews) goes through all the light novels, which is why he knows what Cid's goals are. So when he says that Cid is yearning for a good battle, that's because the inner dialogue in Cid's head actually says that.
U right bro, but i don't think he will listen to this, he isn't wrong but he already have an image to "what makes cid op".
I personally think that Nux explains "why" cid is OP and Ani explains "how" he does to be OP
@@Unsurpassable Nux is only looking at the end result being Cid still at 100% HP and his opponent at 0%. He's misses the point of the process in which Cid does that, which is what AniNews is talking about here. Cid matches his moves to his opponent and only uses the absolute minimum amount of magic, movement, and strength necessary to perfectly counter them. After the opponent has fully exhausted everything they're capable of Cid then finishes them off with the most overwhelming and cool looking move possible. He only ends the fight after he has fully analyzed and systematically dismantled everything the opponent is capable of. This is why his so many of his opponents seem mentally broken after fighting him, all their efforts and experience in combat is overwhelmed by an amount of effort and experience so large they know it is impossible for them to ever accumulate. This is only made worse when Cid uses atomic and they realize he also has a capacity and control of magic just as far apart from their own. We see very clearly with Iris. She was extremely shook when she realized the skill difference in the tournament with Mundane/Shadow. But the atomic at the end is what broke her since there is not a single aspect of combat where she can ever hope to challenge Shadow. It's why Beatrix tells Iris that there are entities that mortals simply cannot hope to rival and to just not think about it. If Iris finds out that Shadow is legit a normal human boy she would either go insane or find some way into deluding herself that he's not human.
This is never explained in the anime, so if you haven't read the LN and manga you won't get it as we see with Nux here. The only time it is referenced in the anime is when Alexia says that Cid's swordplay has reached the level of transcendence yet is ordinary at it's core. Cid doesn't use any secret techniques or difference in physical capability to overpower his opponent. He reads them, predicts their every move, and counters them with minimal effort. To anyone other than Cid it simply seems like Cid has divine foresight, but Alexia realizes that it is actually an absolute mastery of swordplay on a level so high that it mimics the abilities of a god such as being able to see the future. That is why she calls it a transcendent realm of mastery. Alexia only realizes this because it is the same fighting style she is seeking, one that doesn't rely on a naturally large mana pool or any talents but rather is an accumulation of knowledge, experience, and training.
Nux isn't getting this because he has already formed an opinion based on the information in the anime. He's not really wrong either because the anime doesn't tell you this stuff. But it kind of annoyed me that he's saying that AniNews is wrong when AniNews is clearly basing his opinion off of a larger amount of information (LN, Manga, Anime) than Nux is.
I wasn't expecting Nux to fall so hard for Cid.
How could you NOT?
Tbh cid defines nux's biggest flexes series. He doesn't need to flex he is the flex
@@Histerdcap nailed it bruh
it relates to Nux, cringe but really entertaining
He has now 24+666 slime covered women in his harem, but plays the piano just for himself.
I think the point being made in the AniNews video is that the overwhelming magic he got from isekai doesn't matter he was overpowered on Earth and all he needed was literally the existence of magic to become tactically stronger than everyone in the isekai world. Him being physically stronger than his opponents allows him to beat them but not overpower them the way he can by using his knowledge and barely any actual magic.
Well yes and AniNews is also using the LN to make his analysis on Cid’s psychological profile when it comes to fightjng, which is why his explanation is much more detailed and not just “he fights for the perfect victory” because it can’t be summed up like that perfectly like nux keeps saying.
Also his talent in magic didn't matter too,because he always engineer his own body to contain as many magic as possible.ignoring the Concept of 'talent' by that world's people
@@skyking4557Exactly, Cid himself says in the novel that he is constantly manipulating magic inside his body on a subconscious level as a form of training, even when he is not doing anything he is still training, innate talent means nothing to him 😂😂😂
Cid is so OP even lord Nuxanor doesn't understand him.
From my observations he doesn't soley take plesure from acting an an Eminence, but also from planing futre cool and eminence-like actions and seeing the results of them. He also isn't always acting the part of either of his fake characters. Egzample would be the two aforementioned situations. In all three media including anime you can see how he fails to hide the glee he feels when lisening to other characters talk about his latest Shadow stunt. Even thou he is willing to sacrefice everything to play the part he still takes little plesures like the 'conversation' during the battle and talks with Alexia, where he reveals a bit of his true selfe. A part of him that is neither Cid nor Shadow but the chunibyo teenager.
Also the part about him twisting reality isn't something that deserver much attention in my oppinion. Ainz does the same but he is yust aveare of it. What I find the most interasting is the seperate POVs it creates. The cringy, entertaining, chounibyo side where Cid roleplays and the POV of everone else that experience the concequences his actions create which is the emotional, serious and main (in my opinion) story.
Now i have more to say but the coment is streaching too long so yea.
Cid Kageno breakdown.
"Kageno" can be split into "Kage no" which means "Shadow of" or "of Shadow"
"Cid" can be taken from the spanish "el Cid" which would mean "the Lord"
so that would make Cid Kageno into "Kage no Cid" which means "Lord of Shadow". Thinking about how in the Show he is the "Lord" of a Organisation called "Shadow Garden" and he calls himself "Shadow". The name they gave the prtag "Cid Kageno" is so freakin good when you know what every word/name means and it's so simple but yet to me it's the perfect name for a guy like him in a show like this
'Cid' pronounced in Japanese sounds like Shidō which is close to 'Shadow'.
That's an astute observation. I'm caught up with manga and watched the show but never even picked up on that
@@biggusriggus7693 well, the "Kageno" catched my eye, it sounded to much like "Kage no" and yeah after doing the math i googled the meaning of the name "Cid" and you can tell how surprised i was when i read the spanish meaning to it. whoever gave him the Name needs a payraise
@@thejoker8565 in retrospect, I should have picked up on it. A manwha I've been reading literally has a holy sword named "El cid"
@@biggusriggus7693 Hey, we humans tend to look past the very thing we are concentrated on so don't worry, it happens to all of us ^^ would had flew over my head too if i would not had implanted the word "kage" from Naruto (Ho-Kage, Rai-Kage, ect.) so deep in my head in my younger years to instantly wake me up whenever i read or hear anything similar to "kage" ^^
As much as Nux thinks he understands Cid he also doesnt because the anime isnt the novel, im a manga reader and even compared to that the anime lacks a lot of cids inner thoughts, the novel has even more
Cid is always thinking, every fight isnt just how to make it cinematic but how to theroughly overpower the opponent unless he's angry
Just like he says: nobody understands Cid, even Nux 😂
Tbf even in the novel we rarely get Cid's thoughts during a fight. Usually his fights are told from the perspective of people watching or his opponents, then we go back to him in the aftermath. Which I believe is absolutely on purpose, so we can see the fight the way the world sees it, before learning the stupidity that was going through his mind lol. The times where we do get his thoughts though are hilarious, like when he thought Ragnarok was just some random super strong giant bat on fire the whole time.
When Cid fights there's a miscellaneous task called "make it look cool but it's actually edgy"
Cid is the definition of "Always go for the disrespect!"
There are two things about Cid that I believe also makes him a better OP character One: like it was stated he has Actual Combat Exp that he himself refined to the max both before AND after being "Isekai'd" and Two: NO Video Game System like Mechanics, it's all him and no unknown system helping him to win.
The author really implemented "The character is the plot, the plot is the character."
If you anime-watcher only, make sense you dont think the analysis was so true in combat sense because anime didnt show the monologue like light novel and manga should be
Iris: The whole kingdom is your enemy now!
Cid: *Laughs in I Am Atomic*
Nux, AniNews is a crazy detailed channel that goes over power systems and all kinds of things in fantasy anime. I love it.
Cid is like someone so good at a video game the only way for him to meet the game even slightly difficult is by doing the flashiest things possible and pushing the game to it's absolute limits kind of like someone who only owns one video game and constantly has to find new ways to entertain themselves even though the game it's so easy to them.
In other words, he's the really good FPS player that want to get the kill with MLG montage moves.
Kh3 lv 1 crit mode pro codes challenge kingdom key only vs yozora no damage basically
Wow its a really nice way to explain this
Kindof like GTA 5 I had to make my own fun cuz I didn't enjoy the game as much as my buddy but played for him. I did things like "Hey can a cook a frag and take out that helicopter we are running from?" or "How mad will that player be if I snipe him out his car AFTER he despawns off my screen but before the car does?" Not to say I was "so good at the game" but sometimes you gotta make your own fun when the game fails to provide.
Wait so he's basically just a dark souls player doing a lv.1 run using a guitar instead of a controller.
Here's something I heard that, I think, sums this up almost perfectly:
If you gave a two year old unlimited materials and budget, they could design a bridge across the Atlantic that could carry dinosaurs. _Anyone_ is able to design a bridge that stands. But an Architect is someone who can design a bridge that *barely* stands.
Cid doesn't just build victories; he _engineers_ victories. He isn't handed as much power as is necessary by the plot and just throws as much as is necessary at the problem until it falls over. Cid crafts the most careful, accurate of blueprints and designs a victory with the most efficient and aestheticly pleasing use of his virtually unlimited power budget.
Also, Cid was the only person in existence to successfully be able to use slimes as material.
Most materials have around, at most 10%, magical conductivity.
Mythril is valuable as it has 50% conductivity.
The slime equipment of Shadow Garden? 99%!
There have been attempts in the past, but they were considered too incompatible with humans to be useful.
Apparently, our boy got the memo and was like, "Nah, fam. I got this!"
Seeing Nux get more and more invested with each video is great. From "I might actually need to watch this" to "MAH BOOOI!!!"
The "conversation" that Cid is having I sort of understand, if you've ever played a fighting game at competitive level it's pretty much the same thing. Playing a opponent at casual level where they just do random stuff with no in depth thoughts behind their move is different than facing competitive player that constantly tests what you can or cannot do and if you'll respond to whiffs and how you'll respond and how they'll respond back and how you'll respond to their response and so on. I think it's called nuances
Cid uses his mastery of combat to beat his opponent on a psychological level. Instead of moving 20 meters away to dodge, he moves 2 millimeters. Imagine if Mike Tyson punches someone in the face and they look like they got hit, but then they look back up without a scratch
Cid actually does tries to have a "conversation" during his fights, as he loves to overpower people through those "conversations". That is why while fighting with Olivie he said that "a fight without conversations is just jarring" - if i'm not wrong something similar was said in the anime as well. You can say he thinks of the results of various scenarios for the sake of making it look cool, but he takes all the fights seriously as he is looking for a way to win in the most overpowering manner. And everything explained in the video are all of explanations from Cid's various monologues from Light Novel or Web Novel, where he explains various abilities of his and thought process during his fights.
If you watched the last episode there is a neat detail in the credits. When Rose's credit shows up, the name is changed on screen to Number 666.
Nux, I think you forgot how Cid beat the hero of legend while his magic was sealed, WHILE he was breaking that same seal.
His skills make him built different, the magic he uses is almost exclusively used to fuel his edgelord roleplay
Exactly, he defeated that olivie clone with zero magic and sheer battle skill, that's just how good of a fighter he is, even the narrator describes the difference beetween cid without magic and the olivie clone like "heaven and earth", nux definitely doesn't understand cid's character
Dont forget...
Every character cid plays... fights difrently
He goes the extra mile of making up a fighting style for the character he is going to play
Nux just fyi, Aninews bases his videos with LN / Manga info so part of what he mentions is based on the LN like hte conversation part and that he had to try a little, and that most of his battles are won out of pure technician over mostly just using bigger energy.
Nux: This is too much cringe, no wonder Giguk didn't show the actual program, I ain't watching this.
Nux after watching: I love this cringe! I'm engrossed in it! Cid is my awesome GAR!
Me, evil-y grinning in the shadows: The infection is complete, another has been converted.
he is actually so overpowered because he already knows nobody can beat him because of his prowess, unlike other protagonists who think they can lose, That was never an option for cid because he knows the opponents are that much weaker. He isn't worried because of his good battle IQ, which means an uncertain fight is something he kind of hopes for because it would be cool for cinematics.
Nux, the LN actually do talk a decent bit about this in the beginning. He focuses on cinematic, yes, but he does focus on making for himself “the best fights he can”.
You just said the same thing twice
The funny thing about Cid is that He never needed to use His Atomic in any of His fights. He's only ever used it after He's completely overwhelmed His opponent with His skill. The nuke is how He FLEX's on them.
I think the point of this is that most isekai protagonists do that thing where some knowledge of their old world makes them strong, or gives them opportunities others wouldn't have. Cid would probably be a revolutionary fighter just based on his martial arts knowledge- which is why Shadow Garden is so strong- everyone is trained in "his" style. It's just that on top of that, he can also turn into a nuclear bomb.
Actually cid is just such a fighting genius that his training methods are so meta that he surpasses the entire verse despite having similarly no innate talent at all, light novel readers will know that cid is training since he was a baby and got reincarnated and he literally never stopped training since them, in the light novel he also says that he is always manipulating magic inside his body on a subconscious level as a form of training, he is training even when he is not doing anything, he isn't strong because of the plot but because he trains like a obssessed lunatic and is always developing new methods to get stronger that no one can even conceive off, keep in mind that this is the same guy that hit his head onto a rock, crucified himself, killed bikers and criminals even on his previous life, stopped taking baths, fasted and converted himself to a plethora of religions just to attain magic and practice his combat skills 😂😂😂
Saying that his power comes from the plot is a disrespect to his character, the plot only makes it so that his made up bs is real, but all of his power and fighting prowess is entirely his own credit
The guy in the video essay is definitely talking about the light novel version and nux is going with the anime. All 3 version are notable different with less and less MC pov
Also Cid isn't as much of a dead log in the manga, much more visual comedy and personality
AniNews isn't really an analyze video though, his title may sound like it but the video is more of trying to deliver details left out from the anime that were in the Light Novel. That's what his videos has always been. Here I believe, he is trying to convey a side of Cid's character that was only told in the LN.
The Eminence in Shadow is like playing DND but one of the players is secretly the DM
As an early LN and manga reader, I feel like an elder. Literally I feel like saying "I'm better, bigger and smarter than you"
I wasn't able to convince my friends to read the manga and LN cause anything that came out of my mouth about this manga was total nonsense. They looked at me as if I was a weirdo with downs syndrome and alzimers. Sheeh...
i have a theory of the fight against the princess iris. in the first episode while cid is dueling his sister, we see him moving faster than his sister can see, then returning to normal. during the duel with iris, it shows her reactions to images shown in the same grayed out screen as the earlier fight with his sister. my theory is that he can move so fast that would cut iris, heal her, then return to position so that it would seem like he never moved, just to fuck with her, like dio and polnereff.
He might have been told about what happening before he was reincarnated by the demon God, it highly possible that she becconed him in the 1st place,but he forgot so it's like he made things up, it's pointed out that the witch is the demon God and she's quite taken with shadow even tho she was only a left over piece of her and had no recollection of meeting him.
Diablos isn't a god, sorry to inform you of that. We know enough to know what Diablos is and I don't really want to spoil that, but Diablos isn't a god at all.
0079th video asking Nux to watch the original Mobile Suit Gundam.
the best thing Cid/Shadow just literally casually not big deal of his past life (he's so true with in our real world..when your human..there's always a limit) legit love this so much!!!! just legit!!!
Finally, someone who appreciates a true op character. A character that is op by triple SSS rating every encounter single-handed and with eyes closed all for the sake of an undisputed and perfect victory.
Cid admits he's weaker than Grease during their fight btw. That why his technique is what makes him op. Even if he's physically weaker he still overpowers his enemy with skill.
He isn't weaker than Grease, he just wasn't using magic to buff himself like Grease was.
@@arknovel4032 No, he outright states that grease has more magic power than he does after he uses the pills. When the actual character says it there really isn't much room for interpretation.
No but this is how in deep the novel goes.
And it even explain how the speed of atack and entry led styles to hiperfocus on that.
It's very fun to read tbh
Cid would win a battle against ainz, Tanya, Natsuki subaru, Kazuma and Naofumi in their world before they were reincarnated and transported to the other world
Fun fact, even if in the anime we saw him having fun during the fight with iris and Beatrix in reality the only time he had fun during a battle till now was just against best girl Aurora ( The Wich of Calamity ).
"Reality-bending luck", as other people call it
Wow what a wholesome video! So educational and encouraging! This video made my day! Thanks Nux for helping out the world, everyone should like and sahre this video!
Well..... Light and Web novel really highlights Cid's thoughts. He did try to understand Aurora during the battle to the point where Cid and Aurora has a connection to each other.... In web novel Cid even dated Aurora's finger
Bruh
Web Novel ?
One thing I would like to say:
Yes, Cid is basically rewriting the world according to his whims to fit his desires. But the way Nux says it makes it sound deliberate. It isn't. To points that give proof. 1: Early on when the show is vocalizing his thoughts, it clearly shows he thinks the girls are just playing along with him for his sake. Not actually serious. When they leave he thinks they are just growing up and don't want to play that game any more but don't want to hurt his feelings.
2: When he is in the Sanctuary trying to pull the sword out and fails. He expects the hero of the "story" to show up and do it. But instead its the villain that shows up. The "variation of the formula". He is genuinely surprised by this. It is still what he wants but the surprise that he got the variation shows that its not intentional. Rather than him actively warping the world for his own sake it would be more accurate to say that the world seems to exist for his sake and actively responds to his desires without him even knowing that is what is happening. Which is honestly for the best. He wants to the The Eminence in Shadow for real. So him creating the world and its events as some god would be counterproductive.
But this is my take as an anime only person. I may pick up the light novels later. But for now this is based on what I have seen and inferred from the anime and comments around it.
Yeah Cid is not aware which is the main joke/bit of the whole story. Cid is also deliberately not aware as he could easily find out most things if he cared to press anyone about it.
He simply doesnt care to find out as its unimportant.
All he cares about is going somewhere to act either of his 2 roles for his own satisfaction.
He is broken enough to not have to worry about anything that arises from his actions and so the world is left to deal with it.
Ahh man, I thought this was your Cid video, not a reaction to the one I already saw 😩
The most scariest power to have if you are an isekaied protagonist, is the ability to always be right, and sarcastic people would d¡£ in ten seconds because of it. 😂😭
The real reason why Shadow is the most OP Isekai protagonist is that he is insanely strong, but also he understands the awesomeness of the words: I'm only using 1% of my true power!
That is why he will never use his full strength at the start of the battle. Because victory must look effortless and cool, but also he must look like he not even tried to be serious.
Not a big blast at the start, which can looks like he cares enough to tried, but lazily stopping the sword with a finger like Aizen.
What about rimuru?
To me it is not about his overall technique and efficiency at using magic being so great that he overpowers everyone else, but that his overall technique and efficiency at using magic are so great that he has almost infinite freedom to CHOOSE how he overpowers aka flexes on everyone else.
As Nux said, Cid doesn't actually need to try to battle his opponents. The only "struggle" he ever faces is how to most stylishly and one sidedly finish off his opponents. His delusional ambitions and training have quite literally made him so "overpowered", that every battle is never truly a proper fight to him, but just an opportunity for him to leisurely show off how ridiculously overwhelming his eminence in shadow character is in every imaginable aspect.
Despite what you say, he's not just trying to flex. He's trying to have a conversation. Insta-winning through exploits is something Cid hates, unless the opponent is not worthy of a conversation. It's literally said in the video. The guy has read the whole novel so he is way more valid than any anime-only can be. Cid states several times that he's yearning for a proper battle and a conversation. You guys are just ignoring the objective facts and only looking at the comedy side.
The piano scene was legit peak. I just fell on my knees to how extreme this guy thinks
Cid: always uses the least amount of his power.
Also Cid: Acidentaly drops a nuke.
In the LN this is what the dialogue is like, he literally counts the millimeters in some fights
You could make a No One Understands Eminence in Shadow video just from clips of Nux reacting to videos about it.
Does that no one includes Nux as well lol.
Guys where can i watch nux react to eminence in shadows?
I remember Nux reacting to a fall 2022 video and him saying that the show looked trash and he probaby wasn't going to watch it. Oh how wrong he was
Bending reality is strong sure, but there is something to be said about getting isekai'd while already knowing how to fight as well as he does, it just amplifies everything compared to other protags that try and bulldoze stuff. I get the point the guy is making, it just adds to it. The guy makes the challenge of a fight in how he wants to appear, since he can already overpower everyone anyway because of those other reasons.
Long story short every fight in the show is basically the momon vs jaldabaoth fight. The opponent is trying his best to kill cid while cid trying to think on the coolest shit he can do to floor the audience
The best way to describe Cid, in my opinion, is that he isn’t fighting these people from the perspective of the strongest person. Rather, he’s fighting them from the perspective of a spectator to a fight between the stronger person and someone else.
He knows just how much stronger he is compared to everyone else, it’s what he’s been aiming for this entire time, but that overwhelming strength isn’t everything. It’s about how he uses and displays it that matters most to him in comparison. Sure you can have the power of a literal atomic bomb, but what reason is there to have that type of power is the whole world doesn’t know it? If the whole world doesn’t see it? Experience it to some capacity? Understand it and, in that same regard, understand just how far beneath you they really are? It’s why, no matter how much of a display he chooses to put on, Shadow never loses.
You brought up the Witch of Calamity, which is also my favorite fight second only to the one between him and Beatrice, but I have my own take on that. She didn’t compare to him and that’s why he managed to defeat her as easily as he did in the end. It was all just the spectacle. It wasn’t about seeing how she fought or gauging her power. It was about putting on a show that not only he could be pleased with, but that would make sure everyone realized in that very moment just how much more powerful he was at the end of the day. He’s the most powerful being that we know of in the anime at this point, but he displays it in the way an actor would do so because that’s the main difference between him and other OP protagonists.
It’s not about being the strongest anymore because he’s already the strongest. It’s about how he shows everyone else that he is the strongest.
i do agree with this point
Cid peaked in his old world, because of Natural limits
in this world where Natural limits are much highier, people have not learned there are hard limits and methods to work around them
while his opponents are making these big over dramatic swings with power behind them, Cid knows the % of power he needs to deflect it. and often spends the first bit of the fight blocking and dodging (talking with swords as he calls it) and actively get impressed or disappointed by this. acknowledging that Alexia has a "simple" sword style and that Aurora the witch is what "Talent" is. wondering what her real peak with training would be.
the whole Red pill thing, is from the idea that too much magic causes damage to your body
while Cid is like... are you sure?
and states that if you know what you're doing that issue is a non-factor. he even figured out how to undo it. and Teaches the rest of Shadow Garden how to use magic without issue too
you could even say that him Guessing the Heros and the Cult thing, was him reading context clues he thought he was over analyzing.
not only is he OP from a power stand point
he is also OP from an intelligence stand point, too the point he doesn't realize it
I have been WAITING more for thiss!!!!
I was wondering what I was going to watch next. now I know. thanks, Nux.
Rimuru is OP because of his assist skill, the Great sage, before it evolve. If not he will still remain as a blind slime just eating in the cave for a very long time or might even die before he meet Veldora.
I think Nux, while right about the whole "Wanting to make a fight a spectacle for his Eminence in Shadow persona", I also believe he is basing his information more on the anime. This is understandable, not everyone has time to read the light novels or the manga. However, I don't think AniNews gets it entirely right either, in the light novels we get a great deal more insight into what Cid is thinking when he is fighting, (the quotes he uses on the screen), but he also forgets why Cid got so good at it. Cid wants to overpower everyone sure, but he also wants to find a worthy opponent, someone who will push him to go full power, someone who will make him show that yes, he is overpowered, but once someone can challenge him the gloves come off and he annihilates them too. "I am atomic" is not a single use ability, I am more than certain he could drop more than 5 in a fight if he wants to. Like the fight with the Witch of Calamity Aurora, she pushed him just enough that he had to stomp her harder to make him look even cooler/stronger/scarier to everyone watching.
TLDR: He wants someone strong enough to push him, maybe get a hit or two and then he goes "playtimes over" and literally just annihilates them just like Nux pointed out at the end, he uses just enough power to beat them while still seeming to not break a sweat. (Yes I have watched the anime and read the manga/lightnovels. No this does not make me an expert, but I also don't have a RUclips channel to rant on either lol.)
Cid got that story about the cult of diablos from the book that he got when he "rescued" alpha
Unless it has been stated by the source material, I don't know if it was or not, I don't think he is writing the laws of the universe he is in. I personally think that maybe part of his abilities when he was brought over is an all knowing understanding of the world he was brought into, but he isn't aware that he has it, so it feels like he is just the best at guessing that there ever was.
I love this show
what sets Cid apart from most other Isekai protagonist aside from maybe Lugh is that unlike other Isekai Protagonist which are completely carried by their overpowered stats, is that Cid actually knows how to fight and get's more mileage from gaining magic than an average joe like you or me it's like how whenever Batman get's superpowers in the alternate universes he becomes an absolute menace Like Dawnbreaker Batman or Speedforce Batman.
It's an interesting dimension of Isekai that doesn't get explored nearly enough, the only 2 Isekais to lightly address this is Skeleton Knight, and Overlord, where despite being undisputedly overpowered, whenever Arc isn't fighting generic Mooks or demon beast, he actually gets his ass handed to him by more experienced fighters, Maples mother who used to be a Sword Saint regularly trounces him in their training sessions, because even though he is a max level character and can cast all the skills, his real-life battle experience and skill is still that of a normal person from earth. Ainz is also aware of this flaw he knows he doesn't have an optimized build for PVP which is why he's always looking for new ways to increase his power, whether by learning martial arts (a unique set of skills that weren't in Yggdrassil) or developing new forms of magic, in case another player or being with comparable power ever appears in the future, because having Max level and all the spells wouldn't be enough against someone like Lord Touch Me or another player of comparable skill and level.
The trope does tend to show up more in VR gaming anime/manga where you'll have characters who know how to fight in the real world destroy everyone who relies on the the in-game skills their characters have. I think it doesn't show up as often in isekai is because isekai MCs are almost always 2D cutouts that add little to the story.
AniNews got a little lost in his analises there. But I think the point was not how powerful he got because the Isekai, but how strong Cid himself was, regardless to where he got Isekaied.
In other words, Cid is a Isekai protagonist in the True sense of the role, instead of a Power Fantasy Hero who just so happens to come from another world!
Most Isekai nowadays are just a nobody who receives special powers during the transition (or after). What wouldn't be different from picking any random little shit already existing in that world and giving them powers.
While Cid got the same starting line as everyone else, but, armed with all his expertise acquired in the previous life. That allowed him to go beyond the common sense of the new world, and push the boundaries of what's possible in this new environment.
In Short, Cid got no Cheats, but still became OP!
Putting it in a analogy, in the Isekai Gatcha, other protagonists are whales with Super Ultra Rare pulls. While Cid is a F2P user who didn't even used the free Starter Pack Gift!
You need to understand one thing about AniNews, he read the LightNovels, if he said that someone was more powerful than another, you just kinda have to believe it.
Technically if you think about it he isn't overwriting reality at all, His guess about the cult of diablos happed to be from a bottle of some liquor probably named after the legend of diablos which COINCEDENTALLY is real, and alpha would existed before him and was tested on by said cult after he turned her back wich is another coincidence. I don't think he technically brought that into the world since it existed before he thought it up if you catch my drift. Like if he wasn't there at that bandit camp she'd still exist and be a product of the cult.
Mother’s basement did a video about the world building it’s a good watch.
As Megamind once said, the only thing that separate a regular villain and Super Villain is PRESENTATION!
8:42 It suddenly occurs to me, but ig a good example of "...not jumping 16 feet then dashing 19 back..." is in Elden Ring and the skill gap between veteran souls players (or just really good gamers) against newer ones, with the newer ones spamming bloodhound step and other OP stuff, stepping back against opponents whilst veterans taking a step forward 😂 (no offense to anyone btw, am talking bout a difference in experience)
Example:
ruclips.net/video/CymMzRhoh_c/видео.html (showing a difference in attack-handling expertise)
ruclips.net/video/6B-uGWyqwkY/видео.html (showing how much of a punching bag the less experienced one is)
The thing about how aninews is that. this is the format he uses his to make his videos, and it's something I really love about his channel. I believe you should watch his other analysis videos they're very good,l.
Enemy: ive got you where i want you.
Cid: Legalize nuclear bombs, swag messiah *Siren sounds*
I understand his point about Ainz. Ainz and co are overpowered because of the stats and such handed to them but are otherwise normal people. Cid is overpowered in his original world and then ascends further to become overpowered in his new world. Also, Ainz faces difficulties. Difficulties face Cid.
CID has a never ending isekai bucket list of moments or cool lines or scenes he wants to do and that's all there is to it
his information is coming from the light novel, some of what he's talking about is literally apart of his inner monologue
The real reason he does what he does is outlined in his internal monolog.
Why do so many people disregard his internal monolog when analyzing his motivation?
Les gooo, I recommend this! Idk if it was me who made him watch it though
Cid is like that one friend that picks Captain Falcon in smash, juggles you in the air, makes a disrespecting taunt, and then lands a fully charged backwards falcon punch at the perfect time between your attempts to dodge.
With that level of skill, he could destroy you instantly, but instead takes the time to needlesly flex on you, cause "it looks cool"
Rimruru tempest gots a angel tier computer in his brain and can take over his body just like 9 tails fox naruto
Nux get it. He can beat people it just his personal challenge is how to make Shadow look cool while doing it.
Edit: He Drop a nuke on that one guy because that one guy dare say he is powerful by drugging himself and not even showing anything fruitful to him which indirectly mocks him. he hates that, same with Iris who two on one him with a magical sword that was not made by her losing badly and dare say he is running away. you can mock Cid by saying his weak, but never mock shadow for saying you strong not when you ass was just whoop by him.
Plus he took pill guy as offensive for insulting the "plain" swordmenship of the girl. He shows him (and her) as a personal thing that hey this "basic plain" swordmenship can be Hella strong!
Everyone who likes the shows knows it's edgy, But that is precisely why we like them.
it's Very Cool to see our childhood imagination(or trauma for some LOL) to be done that cool and that Cinematic. This was very cringe and edgy if they don't go balls deep and crank it to 11 out of 10 while taking the whole thing as seriously as any serious anime possible.
i’m so fucking hyped for this LETS GOOO
he is talking with the novels as reference
to Cid, the camera is always rolling.
the "conversation" is like a trope of swordfighting where you can sense a persons heart by how they swing and parry... cid calls it a conversation because he can read their emotions and passion by how they swing and parry... only people who last in a fight can actually convey their feelings by how much their swings change throughout the battle
also anytime it was an important person to Cid, like Sherrys "father", and Alexia's betrothed... sherrys "father" he killed him exactly how he described killing her mother... Reece he killed by showing him his ultimate power after showing him true hopelessness shattering his sword in his borrowed power state... He sent the entire garden to find his sister and made his borrowed power opponent feel true disrespect and hopelessness by giving him a lesson in how to use magic be4 he killed him...
Wait till shadow learns how to do domain expansion 😎
Yeah I get the point Cid is powerful without magic he honestly could beat them all with pure technique. But his need for more power (magic) helped him overcome a Nuke.
Let's go more talk of Meme Lord Cid and eminence of shadow 🙏