To be fair if people buy this thinking they're getting a vintage box that cheap when it literally says it's not real that's on them for being ignorant. I'm sure people are buying to resell as legit to scam, but I don't blame the seller. It's pretty much a decoration. I wouldn't wanna decorate with fake boxes but I'm sure some people would. I'm kinda on the fence because on one hand as long as this guy is saying they're fake, let him sell his props. On the otherhand I definitely see how he's enabling scammers. Can you really hold him responsible for the potential misdeeds of his buyers? Seems like a grey area to me personally 🤷🏽♂️
If I buy a mask and a crowbar at home depot and rob a bank, is home depot at fault? Of course not. Same here. This seller is not at fault if someone uses his CLEARLY LABELED REPRODUCTION boxes to scam people. He can't be responsible for the misdeeds of someone else.
as someone who doesn’t care about pokémon cards but collects other things i’ll equate it to my collections: if i can’t afford the real thing, but want to have that thing, i get something similar (and customize if possible). there is nothing wrong with wanting to add a fake item to your collection as long as you aren’t passing it off as real and selling it as so.. in the end it literally does not matter it’s just a collection of things you like to look at ;) also in some cases knockoffs or bootlegs or custom made items are way better quality or cuter, cooler, etc than official licensed stuff.
Even though this seller’s sales would most likely end up with scammers using the boxes, making replica boxes in itself is not wrong. You call them counterfeit but really they are just replicas. In my opinion they don’t become counterfeit until someone tries to play it off as the real thing. If this seller is honest and says that these boxes are not real, then I don’t see how blame or wrongdoing of scammers can be pinned on this guy.
People buy and flex fake clothes, shoes, jewellery, watches and I've even known someone to flex their fake iPhone. So this isn't really all that different. Doesn't make it any less sad though
Hope you got your refund from that seller. This friend is very appreciative of the effort you put out and am happy to have an amazing story to go along with the completion of my first set since 1999! You’re the best, your content is the best and scammers be damned when they try to pull one over on ‘ol Rattle! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Hey rattle, we think there is a local seller here in Nova Scotia who is selling fakes - but they have also been selling modern sealed for less than distributor cost. Maybe stolen ?? Is this discord fodder for you?
Even if the seller put them as fake in the description the other problem is then people buying these knowing they're fake and then reselling for thousands to fool others.
Then he should go after the people reselling the fake boxes as real. People may want to put this on display. There's nothing wrong with him creating replica boxes and selling them as replicas. If you don't like them don't buy them. The good news is clearly there are no scammers left in this world for rattle to expose and he's going after the people making replica boxes and selling them as such
If you print on the bottom of the box replica then sure why not. But as we know they dont do that and if its a replica it should cost maybe 5$ max and as we can see in the video they dont!
@@bdawg923 but people who claim they are real and factory sealed who send you a fake box are bad... That's what happened to me. I was expecting a real base set 2 booster box and fake b.s. was sent to me. But if replica boxes are being advertised as replicas that isn't scamming. Scamming is advertising as real and being sent fake.
Ill be honest cant afford these boxes. But in my game room I do have a few of these purely as decorations. I would never try and sell any of them. They just look cool on my shelf. However i only paid like 4 bucks for them.
Same goes for card market! When i gave 1 user a negative review beause the lost origin box i got was resealed they told me "everyone makes mistakes" like wtf?!
I’m still kind of new to buying cards and sealed stuff on eBay but I scrutinise everything I look at and do as much due diligence as I can. Thanks to your vids I know what to look out for so thanks Rattle. I’m just not looking forward to selling any of my sealed product if I decide to in years to come in fear of someone falsely claiming something was wrong resulting in myself losing out big time. I’d like to think there are mostly honest people out there but this hobby has a dark side and it’s terrifying 😆.
@@bdawg923 I got sent a counterfeit base 2 booster box. I thought Mike was talking about the same ebay user who sent to me but it was not... Fake modern packs were inside the box I bought. It's my own fault, I just got back into pokemon after stopping collecting in 2003.
People need to read the listing and title and description. Most buyers will not do this. It amazes me how little the buyers will actually read. A listing for an item will say something is damaged in the title and discuss damage in description and show pictures of the damage. The buyer will get the item and then ask to return and a refund because the item is damaged. It was fully disclosed everywhere that it was damaged but buyer never read. They saw a lower price, item is damaged, and just purchased. This happens way too much. Buyers don’t like reading. On eBay also look to see how long the person has been a seller. Look at their seller rating and look at any reviews that have been given. If they are basically a brand new seller or they don’t have any reviews I would run. Also see what else they sold. Normally doing all that can really point out who is legitimate and who is not. Now that doesn’t mean someone who is legitimate doesn’t decide to become scammy so always look further. Also, I believe they get away with this by saying it’s handmade or saying something is custom made (this gets said about fake Funko Pops). They don’t say it’s real so they get away with things.
It sucks ebay doesn't have seller protection sold a vintage holo not for any crazy amount but shipped with tracking said it was delivered and the person said they did not receive the card and put a claim in immediately.
Ebays guarantee does work. I got a $400 pocket knife free when it was labeled incorrectly and the seller never responded. Money back and keep item. All cause he said it was a mini but was a micro.
I find it more baffling when people know they've been sold a fake card but still leave positive/neutral feedback because they got refunded or quick replies. Mental.
Damn this guy is going to lose his job cause of this. At least the seller is honest and maybe he just found something he was good at and found a market. With all the poketubers now this would make for great backdrops. Hes not mass producing and selling thousands at a time. Just because you don't like the product or what OTHER people do with the product isn't his fault. People get stuck in one lane and don't actually look at all scenarios
@@RattlePokemon these are not counterfeit. You're misunderstanding one important thing. A counterfeit is something that claims to be the real thing. A replica is something that does not. This dude never claimed these are authentic boxes. You're still defending this dumb video of yours when you're just objectively wrong. The guy even wrote REPRO as in reproduction on the bottom. Do authentic boxes have that? If he wanted to make authentic looking fakes, do you think he would write reproduction on the bottom?
@@concreteseas7236 The purpose of saying "REPRODUCTION" is so people don't think it's an authentic box. He's not trying to trick people. He's literally saying it's a replica box. It's not real. He doesn't claim it's real. What part of this do you not understand????
This is not fraud. This is someone making replica boxes and telling everyone they're replicas. Fraud means he'd be lying and saying they're authentic boxes
I wish The Pokemon Company would start a new cartoon series called Sargent Rattle. Story about a TCG collector who navigates multiple platforms looking for bad actors while trying not to get scammed himself. First episode would be: G-Baller Cardboard Caper Scamarunie.
There is absolutely no purpose of fake booster boxes worth 1000s of dollars. It's not like ppl can do anything with these but scam ppl with them. This probably isn't even legal and Pokemon could send them a letter to stop.
Stuns me that this has been going on for over a year, to be honest... He states that they are handmade, other people buy this stuff and try to sell it as real, unfortunately. And then there is people that indeed think you can buy those at that price, and are unable to read 🤣🤣
Rattle, just because you can afford all the wotc boxes under the sun doesn’t mean that others can. If someone wants something cheaper just to have on their display with all their other Pokémon stuff then I’m not sure what the issue is. You’re a real culprit of causing drama within the community when there isn’t a need to. If someone’s genuinely scamming people then report on it and raise awareness but if someone’s just making boxes that clearly state they’re repro on the bottom just so people Can buy display pieces then not sure what you’re gaining from causing abuse for them. Also you don’t see people that make repro gameboy boxes get this upset so …….
I don't want all the WOTC boxes under the sun and everyone has limits to what they can own, no matter who they are. Wanting something you can't afford is not a good excuse for the production and sale of counterfeits. Collect within your means and find authentic things that you can collect and enjoy. I feel for you if you're trying to impress people with imitation collectibles.
@@RattlePokemon I’m not saying you want them all I’m saying you can probably afford to get them if you wanted them. Definitely agree with you in regards to collect within your means but if you grew up around the era of some of the wotc boxes you would literally need to take out a loan to be able to afford them. Also yes this person is selling counterfeits but they are stating that they are reproductions and putting them in a bad light isn’t a positive message when you know that your subscribers are going to hassle them. It’s the people the try and sell these on as real that you should do videos on as they’re the scumb bags. Also don’t feel for me trying to impress anyone as I’ve not purchased them but I’m saying you’re sending out a shitty message especially if the seller is trying to protect people from being scammed. If you make a big purchase online like buying a vintage booster box you should be clued up on things that goes with any big purchase
You lost me here. Title says "read description" and "handmade" and the description says it's a hand made replica made to look like the original. You start telling us why it's fake. Read the description. He literally writes it's not real. He says there's no booster packs inside. This video is so weird
Its okay if you don't understand, that's why Rattle has tons other videos that explain exactly why this is wrong. Feel free to check out his previous videos on people selling "replicas" and "proxies" and how that can flood the market with fake cards/boxes being sold as the real thing. Just because THIS guy is selling them with the "read descript" doesn't mean someone else is going to buy them up from him and attempt to resell them as, "the real deal".
@@BHSilver nothing to understand. seller stated its a reproduction. do not attack the seller. repros are sold daily in almost every category, as long as its stated then no harm is being done by the seller
@@BHSilver then rattle should make videos about those people and not the person making replicas and selling them as replicas Seller did nothing wrong here and if rattle is just going after innocent creators now, I'm out
"Don't worry guys, he's just making really high quality fakes and selling them to scammers, he's totally innocent of the consequences after the box leaves his hands!"
People who are scummy enough to try to scam legitimate sellers are some of the worst people on the internet. That's why you have to take pics/vids of everything.
this is not a well made video. the seller clearly stated they are handmade and the box even has repro printed on it. you're targeting the wrong person. people buy these to display and nothing is wrong with that, the same reason persons buy repro gameboys etc. as long as its stated then the seller is not doing anything wrong, wether you like reproductions or not. i personally hate them and would never buy repros but at the same time i respect others. stop targeting the seller who did nothing wrong and go target those who are scamming others. how many of us can afford a sealed authentic vintage booster boxes? you're really reaching here buddy and this video is pointless
While you make a few valid points, kind of, the real question is why is Nintendo, gamefreak, wizards, and any other manufacturer that is copied not going after these sellers.
@@marcellachine5718 you got a point there. If Nintendo wants to go after this seller that's on them. But rattle thinks somehow he's "exposing" a seller for selling replica items and clearly stating multiple times they're not real, that's cringe
@@bdawg923 bro you commented on every comment to this video trying to back up the seller and advocating for him? Are you the ebay seller? Seems like you are maybe rattle should look into you
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To be fair if people buy this thinking they're getting a vintage box that cheap when it literally says it's not real that's on them for being ignorant. I'm sure people are buying to resell as legit to scam, but I don't blame the seller. It's pretty much a decoration. I wouldn't wanna decorate with fake boxes but I'm sure some people would. I'm kinda on the fence because on one hand as long as this guy is saying they're fake, let him sell his props. On the otherhand I definitely see how he's enabling scammers. Can you really hold him responsible for the potential misdeeds of his buyers? Seems like a grey area to me personally 🤷🏽♂️
If I buy a mask and a crowbar at home depot and rob a bank, is home depot at fault? Of course not. Same here. This seller is not at fault if someone uses his CLEARLY LABELED REPRODUCTION boxes to scam people. He can't be responsible for the misdeeds of someone else.
Agreed
as someone who doesn’t care about pokémon cards but collects other things i’ll equate it to my collections: if i can’t afford the real thing, but want to have that thing, i get something similar (and customize if possible).
there is nothing wrong with wanting to add a fake item to your collection as long as you aren’t passing it off as real and selling it as so.. in the end it literally does not matter it’s just a collection of things you like to look at ;)
also in some cases knockoffs or bootlegs or custom made items are way better quality or cuter, cooler, etc than official licensed stuff.
Can anyone help? i've sold booster cases and then the buyer has been a scammer and claimed they were opened. How do you fight against that?
Even though this seller’s sales would most likely end up with scammers using the boxes, making replica boxes in itself is not wrong. You call them counterfeit but really they are just replicas. In my opinion they don’t become counterfeit until someone tries to play it off as the real thing. If this seller is honest and says that these boxes are not real, then I don’t see how blame or wrongdoing of scammers can be pinned on this guy.
Right on brother!!! Way to stand up and take charge of this bs. We appreciate you 💪💪
People buy and flex fake clothes, shoes, jewellery, watches and I've even known someone to flex their fake iPhone. So this isn't really all that different. Doesn't make it any less sad though
Hope you got your refund from that seller. This friend is very appreciative of the effort you put out and am happy to have an amazing story to go along with the completion of my first set since 1999! You’re the best, your content is the best and scammers be damned when they try to pull one over on ‘ol Rattle! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
"eBay doesn't care"
Shingles doesn't care😂
Hey rattle, we think there is a local seller here in Nova Scotia who is selling fakes - but they have also been selling modern sealed for less than distributor cost. Maybe stolen ?? Is this discord fodder for you?
Even if the seller put them as fake in the description the other problem is then people buying these knowing they're fake and then reselling for thousands to fool others.
Then he should go after the people reselling the fake boxes as real. People may want to put this on display. There's nothing wrong with him creating replica boxes and selling them as replicas. If you don't like them don't buy them. The good news is clearly there are no scammers left in this world for rattle to expose and he's going after the people making replica boxes and selling them as such
If you print on the bottom of the box replica then sure why not.
But as we know they dont do that and if its a replica it should cost maybe 5$ max and as we can see in the video they dont!
@@HandheldGamer1991 so if he wrote like REPLICA or REPRO for reproduction or something on the bottom, you'd be fine with that?
It’s a total disgrace that people are making and selling boxes to innocent people. 😡
Making replica boxes and telling people they're replicas is not a disgrace
@@bdawg923 but people who claim they are real and factory sealed who send you a fake box are bad... That's what happened to me. I was expecting a real base set 2 booster box and fake b.s. was sent to me. But if replica boxes are being advertised as replicas that isn't scamming. Scamming is advertising as real and being sent fake.
@@Tommy.OrginalvideosPhilly we agree. Sucks you got scammed
Ill be honest cant afford these boxes. But in my game room I do have a few of these purely as decorations. I would never try and sell any of them. They just look cool on my shelf. However i only paid like 4 bucks for them.
Loved the video! Please keep up the good work and keeping the community informed! 😄
I report fake cards all the time on Ebay and the listings NEVER come down. Super frustrating
the listings don't come down, but the scammers negative feedbacks do when ebay removes them..
Same goes for card market! When i gave 1 user a negative review beause the lost origin box i got was resealed they told me "everyone makes mistakes" like wtf?!
I’m still kind of new to buying cards and sealed stuff on eBay but I scrutinise everything I look at and do as much due diligence as I can. Thanks to your vids I know what to look out for so thanks Rattle. I’m just not looking forward to selling any of my sealed product if I decide to in years to come in fear of someone falsely claiming something was wrong resulting in myself losing out big time. I’d like to think there are mostly honest people out there but this hobby has a dark side and it’s terrifying 😆.
Dont sell expensive stuff on ebay!
They take 11% from the sale plus shipping costs.
Ebay sucks bro stay away from them unless you trying to buy a graded PSA slab authenticated by ebay and even then its shady
dude theres tons of ppl on ebay selling bullshit and somehow are in good standing 🤷🏻♂️
I was lucky to get my money back by eBay. But a lot of others haven't been so lucky. And ebay simply don't care. It's sad.
You got scammed by someone who wrote that the box is not real and doesn't have cards in it? What?
@@bdawg923 I got sent a counterfeit base 2 booster box. I thought Mike was talking about the same ebay user who sent to me but it was not... Fake modern packs were inside the box I bought. It's my own fault, I just got back into pokemon after stopping collecting in 2003.
Agreed EBay dosent care , honestly as long as money is being made for them it’s fair game sadly.
People need to read the listing and title and description. Most buyers will not do this. It amazes me how little the buyers will actually read. A listing for an item will say something is damaged in the title and discuss damage in description and show pictures of the damage. The buyer will get the item and then ask to return and a refund because the item is damaged. It was fully disclosed everywhere that it was damaged but buyer never read. They saw a lower price, item is damaged, and just purchased. This happens way too much. Buyers don’t like reading.
On eBay also look to see how long the person has been a seller. Look at their seller rating and look at any reviews that have been given. If they are basically a brand new seller or they don’t have any reviews I would run. Also see what else they sold. Normally doing all that can really point out who is legitimate and who is not. Now that doesn’t mean someone who is legitimate doesn’t decide to become scammy so always look further.
Also, I believe they get away with this by saying it’s handmade or saying something is custom made (this gets said about fake Funko Pops). They don’t say it’s real so they get away with things.
It sucks ebay doesn't have seller protection sold a vintage holo not for any crazy amount but shipped with tracking said it was delivered and the person said they did not receive the card and put a claim in immediately.
Got a base set Charizard from does cards and the service is incredible. Check check check
eBay don't care, I've been reporting a bunch of fake cards and they never pull them down
Ebays guarantee does work. I got a $400 pocket knife free when it was labeled incorrectly and the seller never responded. Money back and keep item. All cause he said it was a mini but was a micro.
He has your address nothing is free.
You really should look at the vstar universe boxes sold on there too. I almost wrapped myself up with a pretty big mess...
We love you Mike. Keep on keeping on. Your the man
Some scamers ask you to leave feedback b4 you get the item "so they get paid" Dont fall for it guys!
I find it more baffling when people know they've been sold a fake card but still leave positive/neutral feedback because they got refunded or quick replies. Mental.
Exactly why I don’t trust eBay, I used to sell pretty heavy on ebay and they are very unfair and sketchy
Did you think ebay cared?lol
Damn this guy is going to lose his job cause of this. At least the seller is honest and maybe he just found something he was good at and found a market. With all the poketubers now this would make for great backdrops. Hes not mass producing and selling thousands at a time. Just because you don't like the product or what OTHER people do with the product isn't his fault. People get stuck in one lane and don't actually look at all scenarios
Making and/or selling counterfeit booster boxes is not a job. Surely they can put that effort into something else.
@@RattlePokemon these are not counterfeit. You're misunderstanding one important thing. A counterfeit is something that claims to be the real thing. A replica is something that does not. This dude never claimed these are authentic boxes. You're still defending this dumb video of yours when you're just objectively wrong. The guy even wrote REPRO as in reproduction on the bottom. Do authentic boxes have that? If he wanted to make authentic looking fakes, do you think he would write reproduction on the bottom?
What is the purpose of reproduction, but to scam people?? Nobody that actually collects Pokémon wants a reproduction.
@@concreteseas7236 The purpose of saying "REPRODUCTION" is so people don't think it's an authentic box. He's not trying to trick people. He's literally saying it's a replica box. It's not real. He doesn't claim it's real. What part of this do you not understand????
@@bdawg923 very sus imitating and asking high standard price for a replica. Its wrong and gives false sense
Fraud creates transaction fees. eBay doesn't care about preventing fraud, they care about maximizing transaction fees.
This is not fraud. This is someone making replica boxes and telling everyone they're replicas. Fraud means he'd be lying and saying they're authentic boxes
I literally seen a fake first editon zard on ebay reported it but they did nothing. Luckily for the buyer it's authenticity guaranteed
I hate scammers, I haven't been scammed since my maplestory days, but I feel bad for those who do get scammed.
You always think these sellers are selling fakes for drugs... some yes but mainly some people just are addicted to money not drugs
I wish The Pokemon Company would start a new cartoon series called Sargent Rattle. Story about a TCG collector who navigates multiple platforms looking for bad actors while trying not to get scammed himself. First episode would be: G-Baller Cardboard Caper Scamarunie.
I bought a Japanese xy promo charizard with the book sealed from a seller in Japan I really hope I didn’t get scammed. Paid 1100$ for it
Great video bro. Idk who the guy is commenting on every comment but seems like he maybe the scammer. Max B
Seems like Ronnie is the jackass who can't think with his brain and instead has rattle tell him what to believe.
Lfg let’s get Rattle to 20k subs!!!
Almost positive the people that buy these are the tik tok/Whatnot/Drip rip and shippers to give them more "flex" for the audience coming in.
There is absolutely no purpose of fake booster boxes worth 1000s of dollars. It's not like ppl can do anything with these but scam ppl with them. This probably isn't even legal and Pokemon could send them a letter to stop.
It gets me pissed when people use us in the military to scam others.
ebay will do nothing
Good. They should not. This is not fraud or a scam. Seller is up front about what the item is
Stuns me that this has been going on for over a year, to be honest... He states that they are handmade, other people buy this stuff and try to sell it as real, unfortunately. And then there is people that indeed think you can buy those at that price, and are unable to read 🤣🤣
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Rattle, just because you can afford all the wotc boxes under the sun doesn’t mean that others can. If someone wants something cheaper just to have on their display with all their other Pokémon stuff then I’m not sure what the issue is. You’re a real culprit of causing drama within the community when there isn’t a need to. If someone’s genuinely scamming people then report on it and raise awareness but if someone’s just making boxes that clearly state they’re repro on the bottom just so people
Can buy display pieces then not sure what you’re gaining from causing abuse for them. Also you don’t see people that make repro gameboy boxes get this upset so …….
I don't want all the WOTC boxes under the sun and everyone has limits to what they can own, no matter who they are. Wanting something you can't afford is not a good excuse for the production and sale of counterfeits. Collect within your means and find authentic things that you can collect and enjoy. I feel for you if you're trying to impress people with imitation collectibles.
@@RattlePokemon I’m not saying you want them all I’m saying you can probably afford to get them if you wanted them. Definitely agree with you in regards to collect within your means but if you grew up around the era of some of the wotc boxes you would literally need to take out a loan to be able to afford them. Also yes this person is selling counterfeits but they are stating that they are reproductions and putting them in a bad light isn’t a positive message when you know that your subscribers are going to hassle them. It’s the people the try and sell these on as real that you should do videos on as they’re the scumb bags. Also don’t feel for me trying to impress anyone as I’ve not purchased them but I’m saying you’re sending out a shitty message especially if the seller is trying to protect people from being scammed. If you make a big purchase online like buying a vintage booster box you should be clued up on things that goes with any big purchase
You lost me here. Title says "read description" and "handmade" and the description says it's a hand made replica made to look like the original. You start telling us why it's fake. Read the description. He literally writes it's not real. He says there's no booster packs inside. This video is so weird
Its okay if you don't understand, that's why Rattle has tons other videos that explain exactly why this is wrong. Feel free to check out his previous videos on people selling "replicas" and "proxies" and how that can flood the market with fake cards/boxes being sold as the real thing. Just because THIS guy is selling them with the "read descript" doesn't mean someone else is going to buy them up from him and attempt to resell them as, "the real deal".
agreed, video makes no sense. he is just reaching at thin air. seller did nothing wrong.
@@BHSilver nothing to understand. seller stated its a reproduction. do not attack the seller. repros are sold daily in almost every category, as long as its stated then no harm is being done by the seller
@@BHSilver then rattle should make videos about those people and not the person making replicas and selling them as replicas Seller did nothing wrong here and if rattle is just going after innocent creators now, I'm out
"Don't worry guys, he's just making really high quality fakes and selling them to scammers, he's totally innocent of the consequences after the box leaves his hands!"
People who are scummy enough to try to scam legitimate sellers are some of the worst people on the internet. That's why you have to take pics/vids of everything.
this is not a well made video. the seller clearly stated they are handmade and the box even has repro printed on it. you're targeting the wrong person. people buy these to display and nothing is wrong with that, the same reason persons buy repro gameboys etc. as long as its stated then the seller is not doing anything wrong, wether you like reproductions or not. i personally hate them and would never buy repros but at the same time i respect others. stop targeting the seller who did nothing wrong and go target those who are scamming others. how many of us can afford a sealed authentic vintage booster boxes? you're really reaching here buddy and this video is pointless
While you make a few valid points, kind of, the real question is why is Nintendo, gamefreak, wizards, and any other manufacturer that is copied not going after these sellers.
@@marcellachine5718 you got a point there. If Nintendo wants to go after this seller that's on them. But rattle thinks somehow he's "exposing" a seller for selling replica items and clearly stating multiple times they're not real, that's cringe
END THESE FOOLS!
Flea market eBay lol
Well, God damn.
Rattle for Pokemon FBI
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I hate eBay because of scammers. Never buy from them.
eBay is the safest option but you still need to know what you're doing.
Good thing that this video isn't about an ebay scammer then
@@bdawg923 bro you commented on every comment to this video trying to back up the seller and advocating for him? Are you the ebay seller? Seems like you are maybe rattle should look into you
@@RattlePokemon check this Max B account commenting on your videos man is all against us and fully down for the scamming lol
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