Sam Zell: This is the Weimar Republic
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- Опубликовано: 16 июн 2024
- Sam Zell of Equity Group Investments on how to weather the economic storm, whether he'll be making purchases any time soon, and the financial conditions across the US.
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"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless." - Thomas Jefferson
In other words, they need to be kept on a VERY short leash. But that would take having moral, honorable leaders and regulators, something in frightfully short supply.
This quote, if ever accurate, is from the time of gold standards when the growth of money was restricted by the amount of gold that could be mined, not the growth of the economy. In other words both you and Jefferson are clueless about modern macro economics.
@@jawedz Right on!
@@jawedz you don't have to more gold for a gold standard, you just have to revalue printed currency to real money so the gold isn't just all claimed at an exchange window like what happened to the US in 1971. we have rigged the system for decades to keep the dollar valued higher than it should have been, but the revaluation of real assets to the dollar will still happen. as it right now, the value of a dollar only buys about 2% of what it did in 1913 when the federal reserve was established.
@@jawedz Tell that to all the homeless people, maybe you're feeding off this Ponzi banking system, the only one who is clueless is you
Sam made a very astute observation , we are the NEW Weimar Republic !
Black pill: we live in The Weimar Republic.
White pill: we live in pre revolution times
"we're always looking for quick simple answers"
Welcome to the Soaring 20's, history repeating.
The inflation reduction act 😂😂😂😂. He says it with a straight face!
Just spend more to fix inflation. Oh wait.... 🙃
It is worse than fiction. No words can explain this.
The three largest owners of SVB are: Vanguard, BlackRock, and State Street. These companies will be protected, at the expense of the American people.
Of course they will be. When both Biden and Harris named their top economic advisors in 2020 and both were people previously with Blackrock, it was pretty clear that the transfer of wealth to the elites from all the rest of us peons would escalate for at least the next 4 years.
See how ETF works
Not necessarily, we could see a serious populous uprising. A new political party may not be so easy on the banks.
I don't know if the Internet is telling the truth:) but I read the Virgin Islands was suing SVB for the Epstein holdings and that is why the Feds took it over so quick...another item on the Interwebs was Gavin Newsom has a lot of money that will fund his 2024 campaign in SVB...and another was the forced ownership of bonds since the FED could not sell our bonds abroad...supposedly a big chunk of the world politic is tired of USA foreign policy and have set our debt up against us by no longer purchasing our bonds...good times
they say they're only going to bail out the depositors. so stockholders are out of luck...at least that is what they say.
In 2006, the Blackstone Group announced the purchase of Equity Office (owned by EGI owned by Zell himself!)for $36 billion,[13] which was the largest leveraged buyout in history at the time. Blackstone then sold many of the portfolio's properties for record amounts.
Yep. Super smart timing.
Infeasible to a pure capitalist like Sam. What if he put his money towards lobbying for mom and pop and clean energy instead of just profiting off trend.
He’s a nice sick human
Mr Zell is absolutely right. Non-carbon economy is not practical within short time frame!
He even cannot say what he really thinks about it, it's obvious.
Having California crippled by floods, and massive snowfalls and the Colorado River not improving significantly regardless. Not that's not practical.
No wonder he defends fossil fuels, the guy is a fossil himself.
@@user-ft9ul5ul5v he’s scared of the backlash if he calls it bullshit
@@jerryware1970 yes yes yes yes yes! All the twitter mobs will be enraged. Hopefully they will be purged from the "renewed Twitter" soon.
@@user-ft9ul5ul5v lol, the “renewed” Twitter is OWNED by the King of renewable transition, Elon Musk. Ask Ford how fast EVs snuck up on them. If I want to know about markets and banks, I’ll listen to Zell. Otherwise he knows f all about renewables or what is CURRENTLY happening. Just saying. 😊
We the people let Pimco have such a rediculous deal before and now they want to walk away from resposibilities, disgusting.
He’s absolutely right about everything. Incompetent Fed and greedy government wasteful spending has put us into an incredibly precarious position
What about the capitalists?
Hey Fred you are a lousy looser troll !
Public budgets support citizens in a precarious position. If markets fail, blame markets.
@@conservativelibertarian their are bailouts in capitalism. Bitcoin is capitalism. Bailouts for the corporate elites on the backs of the working class via currency dilution is Marxism.
Read The Secrets Of The Federal Reserve by Eustace Mullins and The Creature From Jekyll Island by G. Edward Griffin.
A great American and a genuine good guy. We need more of him. He speaks the truth and our 'leaders' need to stop screwing around, but I have lost all faith in that idea. I fear that we live in a neighborhood where the corrupt police are in charge. Common decency and laws don't apply to the corrupt police. They make it up as they go, whatever works for them. The neighborhood is policed, but it is not safe. I think that we need to get used to it. Don't get emotional about it. Don't beat yourself up over something that is out of your control. After all, it is how most of the world operates.
Fantastic interview, brilliant mind even at age 81. R.I.P.
RIP Sam, thanks for always being a voice of reason.
Wow great interview...enjoyed it and his answers...they were spot on.
He is totally spot on, there’s no squeeze at all at the moment. Gonna take a long long time to correct the influx we had during covid.
Ok, let's talk about unfeasibility and planning in the economy. So please educate me: In how many wars where the survival of the country was at stake was long-term economic feasibility (given then existing models) ever considered or "planned for" in the choices that were actually made because they were the only thing that could work at the time and maintain the country's survival? I understand the role of perspective about whether we are/should be in survival mode or "Recovery" mode. But if the perspective is Survival Mode, what weight does long-term future feasibility warrant?
We went through this in Canada in the late 70s and early 80s. Ultimately no one would purchase Federal debt issues. The result: Canada had to offer 18.75% to finance public debt.
Canada is bankrupt country.
Sam is the man. He has a prescient analysis of the current economic conditions
It's an opinion not really an analysis
I was thinking about the Weimar Republic yesterday and heard it is on this Bloomberg newscast .........NOW! I told my wife about 1920s Post WW1 Germany and how people needed boxes of Deuschmarks to buy a loaf of bread because inflation was beyond insane..........
True. Student loan payments are still paused after 3 years. Congress doesn't want to do anything but spend spend spend so we are going to need to personally plan for continuing inflation.
Zell is laughing because he will be dead when this goes down.
Wow! This is eye opening 👁🗨 interview...
This guy sounds like Oscar the grouch
The end of current monetary system
I lost my favorite job of all time due to this man. I worked for REVCO DS corporate headquarters when Zell sold his controlling shares to CVS.
I think he is correct in what he says. I am holding a grudge because I have never had such an enjoyable job since. 🙁
Revco!
Wow haven't heard that name in 2-3 decades
So, just another disgruntled ex-employee? ;-)
He is a mean looking guy. But on the other hand business is business. It's not a charity and he's just doing business. You and I are just roadkill.
@@HughJass-jv2lt Yes! I was in my early 20’s!!! Now I am a middle aged woman. Sad how fast time flys!
@@deborahcurtis1385 yes! We little people are always the “roadkill”
yes, i've been calling us "the new weimar republic" for the last several years
Will we have a national socialist government emerge soon?
Me? Since 2008 I did an actors' monolgue on the coming chaos
So is the rest of the world. Weimer Republic doesn't mean much if all the countries next door to you are essentially in the same position.
You better believe it. When the ship goes down you better be ready.
He said it straight. The prices have not changed for the buyers to even take intrest. The can is being kicked down the road beyond everyones belief. What is the order plan for us all this time?
Thx Same for pointing out WeimArica
Excellent analysis 🏆
Easy money is a great thing for investors, they can go gobble it up for next to nothing and then buy up all the assets and drive the prices up, a giant speculative everything bubble brought to you by the Federal reserve and your federal government.
Legendary interview!
He’s exactly right. It started 15 years ago. Printing money is not an answer to the problem…it is the problem
What scares me is this guy is saying what he thinks by giving his honest opinion I hope that Americans can do this 10 years from today.
100%
The cost of allowing climate to change at current rates (i.e. increasing costs from storm damages) is far more expensive than cost of speeding up electrification.
Zell. Way to realistic and toooo much common sense!
He's a typical right winger that kicked the ladder down once he got on top. For the last 14 years he's lived off the largesse of 0% interest rates and he's whining about the Fed, a typical hypocrite.
@@id10t98 as the Biden administration bails-out SVB liberal Multimillionaire s/billionaire s under the guise of small regional banks. More failed regulations? That will punish that black single mother in Georgia whose regional bank can't give her a loan! Not that with Biden inflation forcing higher interest rates she could afford payments! But as long as liberal hypocrite Multimillionaire s in silicon valley are made whole, so they can contribute $$$ to Democratic's that is what is important. Not fooling anyone!
@@tommay7735 Maybe Trump and RepubliQans shouldnt have repealed the banking regulations to allow this to happen. Just a thought.
@@id10t98 bipartisan, 17 Democratic S voted for it also! Plus, blame everyone else for the destruction of the economy by Biden and democratic Congress. Free giveaways to buy votes. Biden inflation did this! Where was the Democratic SF Fed?
@@tommay7735 The USA economy is doing just fine. If corporate Amerika would give out more raises to bring pay into the 21st century, the economy would be doing even better. There has NOT been a raise in the minimum wage since 2009. Name me one CEO on Wall Street that's gone 14 years without a raise, I'll make the popcorn...
Mr. Zell you are spot on. But there is no alternativ to the US Dollar in my opinion, but the US should not play with fire.
The Euro. Nearly the same size economy and Europe is bigger if you include non EU states.
@@djayjp LMAO
@@djayjp The European economy is circling the drain. Not until any war is over, supply chains are improved, and most of all, energy supplies are restored will it be a good idea to invest in Europe. Also, their political "leaders" are atrocious.
@@bradkaral1188 Ever heard of buy low? With the US you're buying high, relatively speaking.
@@djayjp ...the Euro is worth more than the dollar.
Time, effort, and commitment...
Interested as to why Zell did not mention Nuclear.
Possibly, California can convert to electric cars as long as they have very high energy efficiency. That means e-bikes and galf carts all traveling on city streets with 25 MPH speed limits and highways with 35 MPH limits.
I'm down with that as long as I can drink beer while driving.
" We cannot sustain a carbon controlled economy, for obvious reasons....". Thank you , Sam. It's great to hear a big investor speaking the truth.
If we build out reliable nuclear power for electricity, we can continue to rely on carbon for centuries, if not longer.
@@MrDavidknigge agree!
@@MrDavidknigge Too right!! But I thought he was saying we cannot sustain an economy where we control carbon output, and replace it with renewable energy. That's how I interpreted it.
He's right both in morality and fiscal policy.
Of course, but he obviously won't mention that the same ethnic group was behind both, given that it's his own tribe.....
@@bc2578 I was thinking the exact same thing.
Guys like this created the economy that we have then blame the government, that they own, for the problems when the workers are getting too much money. Fucking amazing!
High rates bad for his property portfolio. Sausages in Weimar tastes terrific. 😊n they only cost 12m Deutschmarks
A privileged perspective....BRICS gold backed currency coming soon...
I'm in Gold, Silver & Energy. Staying away from USD/FIAT and non-Commodity stocks
Sell your energy and buy pharma
Wisdom!
Zell for president !
Risk free rates should be above inflation for the intended period.
Renewables is a misnomer. The windmills and solar panels used to convert wind and sunshine to electricity are not renewable. They are very energy intensive to produce, inefficient to operate, and only have a 15-30 year lifespan.
He is not wrong
He’s not wrong. We owe more money than we can produce? Now we don’t even produce any value. We just export gay pride to the world and fund foreign wars that don’t involve us.
He's wrong
You're both wrong.
The public/private balance is unsustainable. If the private sector is unwilling to preserve the market economy through major rebalancing, the market economy will have to be restructured. This is a simple fact borne out by history.
Read The Secrets Of The Federal Reserve by Eustace Mullins and The Creature From Jekyll Island by G. Edward Griffin.
It seems like we are trying to enact our own “Great Leap Forward”….
Like how he is screwing over the poor.
It is a market that has not been lost on some of the country’s richest and most high-profile investors. Sam Zell’s Equity LifeStyle Properties (ELS) is the largest mobile home park owner in America, with controlling interests in nearly 140,000 parks. In 2014, ELS made $777m in revenue, helping boost Zell’s near-$5bn fortune.
exactly. he's been a po s for decades, taking all the free money he could for the last 14 years and is now complaining about getting it.
@@id10t98 Yep he's worried its all going to come crashing down losing his fortune thats all
He's never going to enjoy all that wealth. He's also too greedy to give any of it back to the poor. He could give his mobile home park renters a price cut, but again he's just too greedy and will hoard money to his death bed along with all the executives.
@@rs72098 He's not a commie. He never claimed to be a commie
It took alot of time to get to the crisis we have now. Where were the experts and administrative leaders who allowed this to occur and manufactured this crisis.
All by Design. ..
Zell sold Brookfield some of the properties in that portfolio. The lesson is buy what Sam buys when Sam buys.
As a cash flow investor, real estate price doesn't concern me as much as sensible payment terms.
_"Mr. Owner, if you can be flexible on _*_payment terms,_*_ then I can offer full value."_
_"Mr. Owner, which is more important to you: How _*_MUCH_*_ money you get or _*_WHEN_*_ you get your money?"_
*_"Want to sell your property for 10% more than the asking price? You can when you sell it to me!"_*
Exactly. That’s why I’ve walked away. Put your debt where the sun don’t shine.
Could you fix it?
Its gonna happen as the people around the globe notice how anemic the former almighty dollar is not what it use to be and could buy.
"Mr. Owner, if you can be flexible on payment terms, then I can offer full value."
"Mr. Owner, which is more important to you: How *MUCH* money you get or *WHEN* you get your money?"
If the seller demands *both* price *and* terms, then that's a "take it or leave it" proposition.
Always be willing to walk away. Do not waste your precious time by chasing dead-end deals.
Democracy and long term realism don't go hand in hand.
People should listen to the wise old folks, they’ve been through many cycles and seen it all before.
This guy is ruthless
When we lose the dollar as a refuge we have bigger problems than a 25% reduction in standard of living. This would only happen with massive systemic disruption.
They should have raised interest rates sooner than they did, inflation got out of control before they raised rates!
I think MORE regulations on banks is a good idea. If Dodd Frank hadn't been gutted by the Trump admin. SVB most likely would not have happened. The Federal government should not bail these banks out!
Listen to the wise men..
This guy is dead on. We should all be expecting a 25% decrease in our standard of living. Our government has put us all in a horrible position, and it’s way past just being a possibility. We are going to lose reserve status of the dollar.
No- the public did by electing only politicians that are totally owned by current financial system whose only goal is to sustain their control, not a single independent who isn't owned by GOP or The Democrats
The key is that 25% extra living standard should not be there in the first place. Easy money, over spending, debt. This is the fault of the Fed and the over spending government. Also the fault of the over spending public, gone is the age when people value hard working and saving up for the future.
When the people allow this shit to go on for decades eventually you gotta take responsibility. They've been raping and pillaging us for well over a century now after they instituted the fed and we've gone insolvent several times since then. In the 30s, the 70s and 2008. Well now we can't just print up 5 trillion to save all the banks again because inflation. But guess what? They're gonna do it anyways. They're gonna bail out all these same fucks like last time and everyone will accept it until they're out of home and food and can't provide for their families.
@@peadora “I’d rather go to bed without supper than wake up in the morning in debt.” - Ben Franklin
US is nothing like the Weimar Republic. The Weimar Republic was experiencing rampant inflation, social and political polarization, very high national debt, and a mad man that keeps stoking white nationalism and xenophobia to gain votes and public support to capture the country's highest public office. The US is nothing like that!!
Agree with direction but when he had the chance to say what he would do he basically said nothing.... No actionable solutions.
Basically Americans need to get used to larger taxes & higher interest rates & later retirement. It's the only way to get the budget under control. But it's misleading to blame this on any single party or leader... It's on us, if Americans don't want to tighten spending & live more frugally now for the benefit of future generations, why should we blame the leaders we elect? After all they are just implementing what makes their constituents are asking for....
COVID taught us we can live within our means... But we need to do that over 20 years instead of 1 year....
The fed hasn’t done its job in over a century since Wilson was president we have believed that we should be able to spend more than we take in we just give an I owe you loan putting us in debt to other countries. The largest owner of our debt is our allie Japan and China own a significant amount of our debt. All the other countries could call for payment of the debt and destroy our economy worse than it is now.
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What does he mean by “the monthly payments doubled in the last 60 days”?
good interview of a very wise man who should be listened to by all Americans
Time is the only thing this planet do not have to reduce cabon. Our children and grandchildren allso needs a planet to live on.
When Sam said 'Biden' administration, the subtitles said 'Bush'! That was 100% deliberate. Once again demonstrating the bias of Bloomberg
The Fed is not the only problem. The Banks were doing what they were doing and you cannot blame that on the Fed. Please remember to mention Donald Trump who deregulated everything and Larry Kudlow who was far too incompetent to have a cabinet position.
We are split in to 2 camps. Those that had the wherewithal to buy homes before 2022 and those that will never own their first home.
Outstanding observation.
That's capitalism. Get back to work!
I do not believe it is quite that defined.. I never in my life had a mortgage below 7.5 percent.... I once had a 14.5!!!! I paid that baby off pronto! Settle for a smaller home...move to a different area!!
If a person could live without anything that did not exist before 1970.....that would be the cure for most!!!!
@@vincentconti-jb3hd House prices are now 4 to 7 times the combined household wage.
Back then land was far cheaper then now.
We had back 210 Million people in the US now 335 million. Most of them your children or grandchildren.
@Gaye Lorde Schadenfreude is strong within you!!!
if only there was a bank in cyberspace that didn't depend on fractional reserves or corruptible human beings, protected by the laws of thermodynamics.
Bitcoin.
Literally nothing is protected by the laws of thermodynamics, that is their definition
It’s interesting that BTC gains value relative to USD when us banks become insolvent. And when monetary authorities inject liquidity it will see more gains in USD terms.
The first DOMINO to fall and many to follow. The SOFT LANDING has begun.
Zam Zell is a real estate billionaire lawn-gnome-leprechaun !
You’re saying it, I dunno, like it’s a bad thing or something.
@@rokyericksonroks I want his pot of gold
The transition to renewable needs nuclear.
This guy, as smart as he may be, is barely alive here and probably hasn’t been awake the last 3 years.
The fed did wrong, but this was before Powell. The real problem was fiscal policy and stimulus bills that required him to purchase assets off the bank balance sheets. Congress is to blame.
Where did you come from? Are you AI?? Just sayin' because your comment is intelligent and thoughtful......
We had a few major issues in the passed years or decades.
In the 70s and 80s inflation and interest rates were high to high. But they didn't solve the problem of rising energy prices of the time. Now we are in a similar situation FED is raising to fast after they had been to careful for the most of 2021.
On the other hand applying the Taylor rule. RATES SHOULD HAVE BEEN LIKE -5% FROM 2008 UNTIL 2011 AND THEN -2.5% TILL 2013/14.
@@vincentconti-jb3hd It's Chat GTP4
It's both, the stimulus checks for sure but the fed controls interest rates. Having it a near 0% for a decade tends to create a lot of leverage from all the borrowing.
@@frenchonion4595 yeah. I’ll accept that
Never take "no" from someone who isn't authorized to say "yes", especially a realtor.
"Mr. Owner, if you can be flexible on payment terms, then I can offer full value."
"Mr. Owner, which is more important to you: How *MUCH* money you get or *WHEN* you get your money?"
Creative financing solves huge problems for both buyer and seller.
Great to hear some strong warnings although overly dramatic with some exaggerations. Still he's right that it is a dangerous situation and our government is not focused on reality but rather sound bites.
As the saying goes: "Weimar Problems require Weimar Solutions"
Sam is right
I love how the subtitles turned biden into bush😂.....
terrible closed captions, u get what u pay for BLOOMBERG!!!
200 years to hit 1 trillion in debt; and 43 years to grow it to 31 trillion plus 186 trillion off the books debt.
thats a LOT of inflation, debt, and monopoly digits
It's time to take the bitter medicine, or the economy will never heal.
What comes after the Weimar Republic?
Money should be free but finite. Do the math, damn it’s simple but the smart ones would rather oppress instead of elevate those around them.
Someone needs to correct the closed captioning. It is woefully wrong in almost every statement.
ok, it will take time and effort. Who's in charge of addressing the reality of imminent collapse in the global ecosystem (and that's the "nice" version), let alone the collapse of survivability for human beings on this planet, especially given current global population levels?
Ha at 1:40 Zell says Biden but the closed captioning says Bush, kinda sus
Interesting, where was this guy when inflation was creeping up during the Trump Administration?
A realist
Don’t worry it’s all by design by the BIS and the federal reserve for rolling out the new dystopian system of CBDC’’s 😂
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"You will own nothing, and be happy."
Stop. Get some help. You'll feel better.
He's right. It's not news.
Never said it was breaking news