Konami's Arcade Beat 'em Up Ports | DELISTED | SSFF
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- Tap my link to get a 1 year supply of immune-supporting Vitamin D3K2 + 5 travel packs FREE with your first purchase! www.athleticgreens.com/stopske... | Turtles In Time once had an awful 3D remake. Simpsons Arcade had a sequel on cell phones! And there's a port of X-Men Arcade with entirely new VO. But they’re just... gone? DELISTED traces the digital lineage of four legendary Konami arcade games!
Special thanks to @MyRetroLife for his home movie arcade footage! Watch his full video here: • Arcade Games in the '9...
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0:00 - Hey I'm Derek, it's me Derek!
1:30 - Athletic Greens
2:43 - TMNT Arcade
5:51 - TMNT Arcade XBLA
9:18 - TMNT Arcade's Weird Ports
10:24 - Turtles in Time Arcade
11:56 - Turtles in Time Re-Shelled
15:13 - X-Men Arcade
16:53 - X-Men XBLA / PSN
18:07 - Amazing Re-recorded VO
19:38 - X-Men Arcade Mobile
20:57 - Simpsons Arcade
22:21 - Simpsons Arcade Mobile
24:19 - Simpsons Arcade XBLA / PSN
27:42 - Patreon Strong for 7 Years! 
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18:28: "For whatever reason, they couldn't use [the original X-Men VO]." I worked at Marvel Games during this games production, and I can tell you the reason: The re-recordings were protection against being sued -- no one knew who recorded them originally! The records simply did not exist.
19:15: There was a point when we were asked if we wanted to "correct" the voices since that needed to be re-recorded. For a brief moment, we considered it, but ultimately we felt it just wouldn't be the original game without "welcome to die" and other badly translated lines. (This was largely my personal decision since I was the biggest fan of the game on staff. What I REALLY wanted was both -- but that just wasn't possible due to Konami's resources for the game.)
I didn't do approvals on this product, though. If I had, there would likely be something better than the "DeviantArt." 😀
@@cbake76 Too bad they wouldn't let you do "both".
@@KasumiKenshirou I pushed for that! I wanted to help write it too-so that the story of Magneto commanding sentinels actually made sense. All the dialogue would have fit together to offer more of a cohesive story, as well as making the quips sound less poorly translated. But it was deemed out of scope. 😕
I mean, at the time, they just didn't keep the records about that kind of stuff - it was all work for hire one-offs in Japan.
Thankfully that stuff is changing a little bit over there.
It was an honor having my old school home video footage used in your video man. Konami RULED the arcades in the 90s! Thanks for reaching out! Loved the video
Would love to see more collaborations with you two!
@@VirtualRobotsRevolt agreed!
I member. You member?
@@tigerkill420 cringe.
I literally was like I thought it was my retro life's stuff cause I had just seen some of your recent videos lol.
I rewatched the half-second of disassociating Cyclops like ten times trying to figure out what track was playing in the background and why I recognized it. Of course, it's Tomba. Bacchus Village theme.
Correct! If we have the time, I always try to put in a small thing or two just for my own amusement. Stuff I assume no one will notice. But it’s getting to the point where a few actually are noticing!
15:55 I am happy to confirm that, even as a Magfest newbie (only been in '19 and '20), the iconic Colossus yell lives on. You can go almost anywhere in the convention center and holler "HUOOAAAAAAAAH!" and hear the crowd echo in response.
as a mag vet who can't go anymore, that makes me smile
Except in the hotel/common areas, but that doesn’t stop the sense of whimsy:
“May we suggest nightcrawling instead?”
That sounds like the most irritating thing on the planet.
@@CoralCopperHead it really does
Hell yeah!
the soundtrack for the Simpsons arcade game was composed by Norio Hanzawa, future composer on a huge chunk of the most well known Treasure games like Gunstar Heroes, Dynamite Headdy, Mischief Makers, Sin and Punishment, Bangai-O etc. the absolute manic energy of his music never really went away and i absolutely think it's one of many reasons why those Treasure games are so beloved
I knew it sounded like Treasure! Though I thought of their McDonalds tie in game.
What happened to TREASURE? Nothing new just a few digital re-releases. Dotemu boss wants to revive Sega's Guardian Heroes.
@@elmarakovideo From what I hear they're just a holding company now- they have no personnel or development staff, it's just a company that owns and licenses out their IP's to people who can develop stuff for them. No clue where the actual developers who worked on them are- I think I heard some of them went on to M2?
@@goranisacson2502 They recently celebrated their 30th anniversary and teased they're finally working on "a certain" game...a game that's been long requested by fans....which could be ANYTHING really, so it's nice to see they're still kicking!
Not even really related to the first comment, but the Tresure game I might have the most fond memories of is probably Bleach: The Blade Of Fate on the Nintendo DS. They took a popular anime license and made a decent 2D fighting game that not only had a robust roster, but a really solid single cartridge wireless multiplayer. When me and my college buddies were done trading pokemon, we frequently would start up some four player free for all anime fights.
The sequel, Dark Souls, was alright but I felt the additions to the roster were mostly joke characters you never wanted to pick for a serious competition. And after that, Bleach games basically took a nose dive in quality much like the series itself.
I would have really liked to see a Simpsons port on the SNES starting with the Konami logo with the pink light beam......... But framed within the Simpsons' TV!!! 🤣
God, what could have been…
You can thank Acclaim for that not happening.
@@BJH0380 What do you mean I have the arcade game on my ps3
@@sholva6809 I’m referring as to why there was never an SNES port of The Simpsons arcade seeing as how during that time, Acclaim had the home console rights to make Simpsons games.
They did just that in the DOS port
Love when people claim their digital games are future proof. That they’re so much superior than physical media. Yet if you bring up delisted games you can’t buy anymore, the goalpost switched to “Well, that game is garbage anyways. Nothing of value was lost”.
@16:20 X-Men: The Animated Series was actually one of the most revered and acclaimed animated shows ever despite this guy's opinion of it.
I've actually been watching it in preperation for the new series and while it can be quite jank at times, I think it holds up okay! Some of the episodes are damn good, but they're all at least okay. If it could have a decent blu Ray remaster it'd look absolutely amazing!
@@richardwilliams877 Saban studio was always cheap on the budget, so quite a few episode have mistakes and stiff motion. The writing makes it memorable, and I also re-watched to get ready for the new seasons. Comic con panel announced Season 2 confirmed for X-Men 97.
Its weird for me to see "grainy" footage of a time I remember very vividly. Thank you for covering these, Licensed IPs and specially the Konami arcade hits are the first thing that comes to my mind when I think the worse casualties of delisted games, and I was actually unaware that there ever was 360 ports of the Simpsons and Xmen.
Also: props for mentioning Magfest and the Colosus roar while talking about X-men, because I too cannot think about one without the other.
I remember the Sunset Riders cabinet at my local arcade had a loose dash panel, so you could literally reach in and grab a handful of quarters--truly the origin of unlimited continues. 🕹
I had the same experience but with Simpsons instead. That was the very first time I actually saw the ending.
The next day the machine was labeled Out of Order.
Man, good memories of that game sitting next to the TMNT arcade game at the local pizza place (Round Table Pizza in northern California).
Just reach in. How else would you do it besides "literally"?
I loved the X Men arcade game, to the extent that I even got a tattoo of Dazzler in that costume on my leg.
Boy and his Blob remake was actually really good! You take that back Uncle Derek!
Came here to say this. I was like "ummmm, did we play the same game here?"
Same here! There's a reason why it got ported to switch and PC
Glad to see this comment so high up since I ALSO scrolled down to type the same thing.
@@Atypical-Abbie In fact, I swear I've heard him praise the Blob remake in the past. Just in a quick, offhand comment - but still praise.
@@ThePreciseClimber That's what I thought too. I figured I must've been losing it. Lol
Okay after this one I gotta see you cover the Delisted Sega Arcade ports. Afterburner Climax and Outrun 2006 are fucking bangers and some tragic casualties of this era of digital games.
I think OutRun 2006/Online Arcade is more of a casualty of the Ferrari license being too expensive for Sega to renew for a re-release.
Outrun 2 and 2006 are two of the greatest driving games of all time. Super tragic that the Ferrari license has led to them likely never coming back, even in a watered down form like Online Arcade.
I agree
Yes!!! I came here to suggest these Sega games as well…both ore fantastic. Just like Outrun Online Arcade was lost because of the Ferrari license, I believe Afterburner Climax was lost due to the Tomcat license. While you’re at it might as well throw in Sega Rally 3 (which was named Sega Rally Online Arcade). Similarly that was also delisted due to licensing. All three are great games.
Regarding the ports of the Simpsons arcade game on Commodore and DOS, the computer rights and the video game console rights used to be completely separate from one another. That particular detail was part of the infamous Tetris legal battle between Nintendo and Tengen. The man who had given Tengen permission to make their version of Tetris *thought* he had negotiated the rights for both computers and video game consoles in the West when in fact he had only acquired the computer rights.
Good to see the Colossus Call in this video.
One of my favorite things to come out of MagFest was when I expressed my enthusiasm for the Colossus noise, one of the people who worked the arcade said that they were a fan of the noise Nightcrawler made.
Fast forward a few years when the venues changed and MagFest put up signs asking people not to make the Colossus Call outside of convention space with a space at the bottom asking to please consider Nightcrawler's noise instead, and I got a hearty chuckle out of that. I hope that guy is still involved at MagFest at this point in time.
These beat em ups were legendary. As a kid trying to build a dream arcade in my head double screen all characters version of XMen always made the list.
Just think if they made an epic crossover, an X-Men/TMNT beat'em'up.
16:20 Curiously, the X-Men Arcade game used the character designs from a cancelled "Pryde of the X-Men" cartoon (only got a pilot).
Beat me to it. This game was in no way riding off the hype of the Animated series. This was prior to that
@@PrinceRawD Yeah, and the "DeviantArt" designs, as Derek called them, are from the promo art for Pryde as well (VHS cover).
@@ThePreciseClimber Exactly
A.K.A., the one where Wolverine has an Australian accent.
@@KasumiKenshirou 😆😆😆 The very same
Speaking of forgettable 7th generation digital re-releases, I'm trying to forget 2012's Tony Hawk Pro Skater HD by ROBOMODO. But a sick & twisted part of me still wants to play it.
Go figure the IP they were made for the purpose of making games for was the one that killed them. Honestly shocked Activision and Nintendo haven't made a gimmicky Joycon holder for the purpose of bringing Tony Hawk Ride & Shred to the Switch (Sorry if I jinx it)
Got it on my ps3 with the dlc, its okay
Why would you want to play it? Just stick with the awesome 1+2 remakes.
@@user-vi4xy1jw7e Don't the physical releases of those games require a download?
I'm thankful to still have my 360 that has the Simpsons and X-men downloaded on it. Plus, Dungeons & Dragons 💚
I also didn't notice the re-recorded voice lines for X-Men for a long time. It literally took me going to an arcade with some friends and playing the original to suddenly realize they were subtly different.
Re-shelled had a lot of gameplay issues. You can get in each other's way pretty easily, and if you jumped into an enemy or player, you would just be launched back up in the air with no control in direction.
Shout outs to Kyle Hebert (Ryu from Street Fighter) and Mela Lee (Tiki from Fire Emblem) for voicing basically everyone in the X-Men re-release and being on-point in purposefully channeling the corny deliveries of the original release. What goddamn legends.
And Christine Cabanos as a production assistant? Now that is interesting. When I saw the people working on the recordings, no wonder it came out so good.
Bang Zoom Entertainment. They know what they're doing.
I still can't believe I let the Simpsons Arcade game re-release slip through my fingers. I will never stop kicking myself for that one until it gets re-released which may never happen if EA still has the Simpsons game license.
The arcade game was more my experience with the franchise than the shows, comics, or movies. I was playing the NES version of arcade all the time, and while I loved them all, when I'd pull out the action figures, I was really thinking about what I WISHED I could see in the game.
THIS is exactly the kind of stuff I signed up to your Patreon for. You guys always find the weirdest of video topics and I love it.
Weird ? Nothing weird about this topic.
Hearing "hits different" over footage of The Simpsons arcade conjured up a picture in my mind of an exhausted-looking Krusty the Clown, cigar hanging from his lip, doing an impression of Steve Buscemi's "How do you do fellow kids?" line from 30 Rock.
That's a good shirt Derek. I'm glad to see someone celebrate the true canon ending of that game.
Ahh Merlin's Arcade. They also had that awesome looking holographic time traveler game that was impossible to figure out how to play lol
That java simpsons version looks dope. It's pretty rare to see actually good java games
I bought Marvel: Ultimate Alliance on PS4 and was always planning to go back and buy part 2 but never did. Now, it’s gone from PSN. Not sure there’s a whole episode there but it’s worth a mention in a future episode.
Derek, I know it wasn't the topic of the video but did you try the TMNT game for GBA?
I know it was made by some people that also worked on Shredder's Revenge and Scott Pilgrim Vs the World (namely, Jonathan Lavigne among others) and I remember enjoying the game a lot as a kid
It's a good year to be a TMNT fan, first we got the excellent TMNT: Shredder's Revenge and now we are getting the huge TMNT: Cowabunga Collection next month. Turtle Power! Same good quality unfortunately was not included with some of these delisted TMNT games. I actually had the TMNT: Turtles in Time Re-Shelled and that was my first introduction to the game, I had not played the Arcade original or SNES version. I thought it was alright but it felt bit weird since I knew it was based on the 1987 Turtles, but they had the 2003 TMNT Turtles actors voicing them.
I do recall there was another delisted TMNT game, TMNT Out of the Shadows which looks cool and okay to play, it was apparently a disappointment, but I want to play it darn it.
@@bobafett4265 Some people seemingly have a hard time grasping the Cowabunga Collection is KONAMI'S TMNT Arcade, 8 and 16-bit games...Re-Shelled was a remake of Turtles in Time ARCADE made by Ubisoft and that hot garbage Out of the Shadows was also made by Ubisoft. Its not meant to be some collection of every TMNT game ever made. Its not meant to include games that Konami didn't make or the flop PS2 games that nobody normal cares about...
1987 TMNT was on for a decade and massively popular.
2003 TMNT was on for 4 seasons and generally thought of as meh at best.
@@bobafett4265 I forgot about Out of the Shadows, or that it was delisted. I still own it as well on my 360, but I barely played it. It was very not good from what I recall, I think it suffered some kind of issue with multiplayer as well (been so long I forget if you had to play online only or if it was local only, either way made it hard to enjoy with friends). Honestly only the 2007 movie's games were worth getting after the OG Turtles in Time back in 92, specifically the GBA port (which happened to have been made by Tribute Games staff, the same people who just gave us Shredder's Revenge), until this year. Outside of the delisted arcade port, of course.
It's been a good year to be a TMNT fan for ages honestly! It's genuinely wild how much longevity the Ninja Turtles have. They're textbook '80s cartoon characters and yet every reboot has been a hit with kids of a new generation. All four cartoons are at least above average for the time they were made, too. That kind of consistency over 4 decades is wild.
@@lutherheggs451 You're the first person I've seen to call the 2003 version "meh at best"
God I have such vivid images of Xmen and Simpsons from my earliest of childhood memories. I didn't get to go to arcades much, but when I did, I was playing one of these.
I had the DOS port of the Simpsons arcade game, it was nearly unplayable, especially because you didn't get ANY continues. Basically you had to play through on one credit, and the controls didn't work too well so that was a pretty tall feat. It was still better than the Mega Man DOS game though (which I ALSO had...)!
I know the Mega Man Dos games were all done by one guy, I'd imagine the Simpsons Port probably had a tiny team as well.
I never understood why they did that. Its almost like the developer was like "We'll teach you to buy one of OUR games!"
Games like these didn’t belong on DOS, but we all wanted to try them.
@@freddyvidz I'd imagine it _could_ work on DOS, but it shouldn't have happened until _way_ later. (somewhere around the mid-90s, when Pentiums became a thing)
@@solarstrike33 I was just jealous DOS & C64 got it and NES did not.
my childhood 😭😭😭 I miss the days of hanging out at the arcade and clearing all these games with my friends. I loved all these games and dropping a 20 at the arcade to enjoy these cabinets. This is why I love SSFF! You guys always bang out videos that touch upon my youth.
"Charles Entertainment Cheese"
Uncle Derek not only coming back strong with his best new series, but proving that he and Producer Grace (for "Producer" is her first name forever more) are beings of culture and eloquence
I never knew his middle name
@@freddyvidz I'm assuming that they're referencing the joke in a "Defunctland" episode about Disney Play Centres (fascinating stuff, reccommend!)
Given the dedication you usually have to discuss the unsung games, I'm a little dissapointed you didn't include the Asterix beat em up from Konami(and in general Asterix could be a topic for a vide on it's own, for a French comic series there's quite a lot of them since the series is BIG in Europe)
Still, great job!
It really sits well alongside this trio., but I guess Asterix is pretty much unknown in the US.
I would love to see the Bucky O Hare Arcade game make a re-release.......but I ain't holding my breath on that one cause id probably turn purple and burst before that ever happens
now there's a rights nightmare. You'd have to dig up the comics creators Larry Hama and Michael Golden, possibly resurrect Continuity Comics in case they held any rights to the IP, whoever owns the rights to the cartoon (since both the arcade and NES games were based on the cartoon version), AND get the rights to the code which are hopefully still in the hands of Konami
@@ChibiKami oh God!! I had no idea it would be that much of a fluster cluck XD I love the NES game and would love to sink more than 3 minutes into the arcade game, but none of that mess sounds even remotely worth it for anyone, Plus Konami and Sega are the two companies' you can bet on having thrown the source code of their games into the furnace to heat the building rather than saving them for later use.
Excellent video as usual! Sippin' tea from my SSFF mug while watching Uncle Derek to start my day off right ☕♥
I used to play the hell out of the mobile port of x men as a kid. I remember being so proud when I beat the game for the first time
12:20 You take that back! The Boy & HIs Blob remake was great. And it had a hug button. More games should have a hug button.
Literally the best part was the hug button. But otherwise, Boy & His Blob might be the most aggressive mediocre I’ve ever played. Grace and I have tried to review that game SEVERAL times over the years. I can think of almost nothing good to say about it but it’s not a terrible game.
Well, some of the Assassin's Creed games had a "pet the dog" button.
Came to the comments for this. It's not an amazing game but it's really polished and heart-warming. I'll take it over the NES version any day.
Another killer episode. Side note: thank you for pronouncing “sentience” correctly. You made my day. 🖤
27:32 I actually got up to go grab my switch and check this! I had no idea, thanks Uncle Derek 🤠 We had the heavily trimmed mega drive version growing up, so it'll be cool to finally play proper arcade Sunset Riders with all the characters and bosses
Fun fact: The X-Men Arcade beat-em-up was actually based on the 89 series that only had a pilot. The classic series (X-Men '92) didn't come out until the fall of the year after this beast was released. Plus they were taking off from the '91 Jim Lee series, plus the Toy Biz toys that were selling since 91...
Don't get me wrong. The years of 1992-1997 definitely had a win with the TV series. Some of the comic storylines were iconic, others were considered duds at the time, trying to piggy back off the "Death of Superman" phenomenon of shock value (which was really just piggy backing off the Jason Todd hotline). But they were starting to go strong before Losch got the green-light from Fox Kids for the series.
beat me to it =)
FUN FACTOID: The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles were even on an episode of Power Rangers. I still have my VHS recording of it.
That’s Power Rangers in Space to you
@@Poever Yes I know. I was a huge Power Rangers fan when I was a kid & I got to meet Jason David Frank in 2017!
@@Poever Go figure they'd save it for the conclusion of the Zordon Saga.
@@GatorRay It was more of a coincidence of the Saban's TMNT airing the same year as In Space.
@@silverfoil8854 OH! Okay.
This was such an incredible run by Konami. So many great licenses
present really sucks :(
Backbone has always been spectacular at remastering arcade games. The Midway Arcade Classics are always top notch.
I remember being so disappointed in Reshelled because that was my first time playing Turtles in Time. I missed out on the original arcade and console release, but I heard how great it was from so many RUclipsrs.
Saw Reshelled and thought this would be a convenient way to play this game everyone loved...well if anything it drove me to emulate the original Turtles in Time lol
I remember thinking Reshelled wasn't real because it vanished so fast. I saw one of my friends playing it, and was like "Looks cool, maybe I'll get it when I have the money" and when I did have the money, it was gone. I had myself convinced my friends either lied to me or it was a dream, and I was angry at my friends for like, a week for lying to me in a dream.
I bought it way back in the day when it was new and just was disappointed how it turned out. At least it encouraged me to get a snes copy of it
I thought and still do think that Reshelled is amazing, and I loved it. Still do, and everyone dissing it is just wrong.
NOTIFICATION SQUAD 💯🔥
Seriously great episode, you two! I love side by side examinations of different ports/iterations of games, and Konami brawlers are the gold standard.
Been depressed the last few days and today something goes right, I get a new video from Uncle Derek. The perfect thing to put a smile 😊 on my face for a moment. Thank You for that.
Uncle Derrick turning into Daddy Derrick with those guns.
It's always amazing to me, that pirates have done more for videogame preservation than any of the actual publishers.
Remember kids! If the console's off market, the software's fair game!
Fun Fact: That is actually an objectively untrue statement.
@@the-NightStar How does corporate boot taste?
Gotta love IP holders not giving a crap when things won't make them money, even if said things are excellent and beloved by so many people.
It's not really the companies' fault. IP law is "all or nothing" and if they don't defend their rights all the time, they risk losing them all together, so they can't make exceptions for "things that don't make them money".
Nintendo in a nutshell and why I wish we were in a timeline where the Switch never existed.
It's really complicated. Especially with franchises of old and old hardware and otherwise.
@@GatorRay Nintendo can tell you all day that you can't make back ups of their games, but other laws say otherwise. I'm not distributing my backups. Also something something "no copyright law in the universe is going to stop me!"
What do IP holders have to do with anything? It has less to do with the IP holders and more to do with how licensing works..When a company licenses out something they own for someone else to make a game, eventually that license is going to end. The IP holder doesn't get to just do whatever they want with a licensed game that was made by another company
God, just seeing footage of and hearing the music from Simpsons arcade wells up so much nostalgia. That was one of the first games I ever remember playing. There was a cabinet of it in the restaurant my parents ran when I was super young, and it was my introduction to both gaming and The Simpsons (two of my eventual obsessions). I so regret missing out on the XBLA port, but at least I still have the demo saved to my 360 that I can never delete.
If any of you ever pass by montreal, ArcadeMTL has both a simpsons AND a turtles in time cabinet, four player versions (they also have nba jam which is pretty wicked)
12:20 Woah Uncle Derek, A Boy and His Blob (2009) is a great game what are you saying. The art style is charming as hell, the puzzles actually make sense (unlike the NES original) and the music fits the chill vibe the game goes for. That game is easily one of the Wii's best forgotten 2d Platformer's imo. Also their is a button to just hug your blob what's not to love?
Hey Uncle Derek, the Raw Thrills Turtles game isn't a remake, it's an entirely different, somewhat underwhelming game. I went to an arcade during an all-you-can-play day, beat it, and felt incredibly glad I didn't pay per credit to play it.
RAW Thrills should have ported it to the Switch. It looks good, but probably too short.
It's bad. Its at a local Charles Entertainment Cheese establishment and I played it with my son. Very bland game.
I'm so glad I picked up the X-Men and Simpsons ports on my PS3, and that I've still got it. Sucks that they were available for so briefly.
The Colossus yell🤣 AAAAAAGHHHHAAA!!!!
"Hey I'm Derek it's me Derek!!" You guys should make a T-Shirt out of that... have you guys ever thought of it & additionally do 1 for "Hey I'm old it's me old!!"
I WOULD BUY THE HELL OUT OF THIS TSHIRT
I get emulation is a sore spot for a lot of people, but times like these are why Fightcade are so awesome. It's not just for fighting games. I've played so many classic beat-em-ups like AVP, The Simpsons, X-Men, and more with total strangers from across the world and had a blast. Highly recommended.
Emulation is pretty l coo but i wish theyvdidnt mame me worry about the settings so much
And let's not forget projects like the MiSTer...though, Konami's fighters are still being worked on.
I don't know if anyone else told you, but Sunset Riders has been on the switch for at least 2 years. It's part of the Arcade Archives series. Buy it now and shove it up your stocking! (Simpsons reference).
20:16 What a coincidence! Fio is also a waifu of mine! That combination of girly girl energy mixed with an actual soldier is just so appealing to me! Plus, in later games, she gets a heavy machine gun every time she respawns. That's definitely an advantage.
I'm pretty sure TMNT II for the NES was on the Virtual Console but got delisted pretty quick. I remember seeing it selling for slightly higher than the standard NES Virtual Console games. Otherwise, great video as always!
I think it was just the first NES game (the platformer).
The first nes tmnt game doesn’t get enough love. Definitely in my top 10. I love how you can change between turtles on the fly, find scrolls, ropes (you have to have ropes but scrolls aren’t necessary, but recommended), each turtle in flicks different amounts of damage depending on the enemy. You can drive around the map. it’s kind of an open world and has a water stage. It did all this before anyone else and isn’t as hard as it’s reputation, when you learn how to play it. Everything else I agree with and love me some stop skeletons from fighting, which will never be delisted.
Agreed. The game obviously has some problems that are keeping it from being great but it is a good game. I feel like a bit of Romhacking could fix most of It's issues and make it a great game. I had the game and I remember my friend and I waking up on Saturday morning and trying to get a bit farther that time. I don't think I ever beat it though.
Too many people call it a bad game. I'm betting because of James Rolfe/AVGN that people now think of it that way even if they have never actually tried it. Same with with Castlevania 2.
Meanwhile, I'm weeping quietly in the corner while I wait for a Metamorphic Force port...
I’m currently addicted to GBA ports on my Switch OLED, playing on it’s OLED screen with the vibrancy turned on! It’s some of the best GBA games too, Mega Man Zero and ZX Collection and the Castlevania Advance Collection! I cannot wait for the Mega Man Battle Network port! Game Boy Advance came out late into my life, but it always feels like _the first time, every time._ I absolutely want to play the remake of Advance Wars, whenever that drops, hopefully at the _right time._ I would love a collection of the two Final Fantasy Advance Tactics games, but with online play and true co-op!
Great Stuff, as always! Your enthusiasm is always infectious!
Have you ever played the GBA version of Battle Nexus? It's weirdly good; I'm not the biggest fan of stealth, but it uses that and puzzle-solving very well, and the level design is really good. Solid soundtrack, too, if you're into the crunchy stuff.
This was a great video and all, but describing these versions as "lost forever" is a bit of an exaggeration. Yeah they're technically inaccessible by normal means, but you can still pirate these versions online if you're willing to go through the effort of modding a PS3 or 360. They're abandonware, so I don't feel bad about having some of these on my modded PS3.
They also still sell arcade cabinets for these games.
@Marc Carran when games are entirely unvailable through legitimate means there's nothing wrong with doing that
@Marc Carran don't worry, it's not stealing, lol
@Marc Carran so what exactly was stolen then?
@@richardwilliams877 ROM data containing copywritten IP from multiple companies. Just because it's not for sale doesn't change things.
Although it came out in 1992 the X-Men arcade game was based on Pryde of the X-Men, an animated series pilot in '89. The voice of Duke (Michael Bell) on G.I.Joe was the voice of Cyclops, the voice of Skeletor on He-Man & She-Ra (Alan Oppenheimer) was the voice of Blob, the voice of Heavy Metal & Shipwreck on G.I. Joe & Springer on Transformers (Neil Ross) was the voice of Nightcrawler, and the esteemed Frank Welker who's done so much voice work it's too much to type on here was the voice of Lockheed and Toad.
And Wolverine was voiced by Yahoo Serious.
@@gargenfluckgosphenspiels4849 Actually by Patrick Pinney, who was also the voice of Mighty Mouse on Mighty Mouse: The New Adventures (1987-'88) and Mainframe on G.I. Joe: The Movie (1987).
@@BlackMoore82 thanks. All I remember was he had an Australian accent even though he's supposed to be Canadian.
What can I say? Such amazing work! You put so much effort into making this, so much effort doing all your research and I actually learned something new. All those other Retro RUclips channels tell me stuff everyone pretty much knows but this one had a bunch of hidden unkown stuff at least for me. So thanks for the amazing work!
You think there weren't many good Simpsons games?
Wait until you learn about The Simpsons Pinball Party.
It's considered a sacred cow among my fellow pinheads.
big respect to grace and derek for putting the sponser logo in the corner making it easier to skip. 10/10 video like always.
As an amusements manager at dave and busters, i want to chime in that Turtles in Time Arcade by Raw Thrills was only tested in a few stores and didnt perform well. As far as I am concerned, there are no stores that currently house it. Furthermore, My brother is an arcade manager at a Family Entertainment Center and he can also confirm the game, while beautiful, didnt perform well across multiple locations.
Which sucks because i effin love turtles in time. Its currently plugged into my SNES
My local mall has it, and hoo boy the dollar per play makes it hard to find 3 other players :(
17:26 Of course Wolverine has spiders on his arms. They're there to keep him from being covered in scorpions again.
LET'S GO UNCLE DEREK!!
I'm still rallying for a modern port of ReShelled. Absolutely agree that it's inferior to the original, but it's another take on the game (The third version, technically, after Hyperstone Heist) and absolutely does not deserve to be lost to obscurity.
The complicated licensing situation would probably make it "not worth it" to try a re-release.
@@todesziege You're completely right. The only way it would have a chance at happening is if there was a big demand-- money talks and makes lots of things happen. But there's no chance a demand for this version will come about.
My dad was one of the people who got the Xbox 360 Simpsons arcade port, I'm glad to have grown up playing that game, it is truly a amazing experience.
God the memories of playing Simpsons arcade at the local hockey rink. The krusty balloon nightmares were worth it
I remember being so disappointed by Turtles in Time Re-Shelled when it came out. They really should have just given the fans a port of the arcade game instead. That said, I revisited the remake just a few weeks back and it honestly wasn't bad. It was just different, which is not what we wanted at the time. In hindsight I'm sort of glad it exists, since I can play the arcade version elsewhere.
The music was such a letdown.
The gameplay was pretty crap compared to the original.
"Forget the NES game" Wait, what? I understand that some people don't like it, that game has gotten bit of a mixed reception but it doesn't deserve to be told to avoid it entirely without even an explanation. Many of us remember it fondly and it's still a fun challenge today.
Awesome video! Had a blast watching all these golden oldies sprinkled in with some delicious facts and history. *chef's kiss*
I still have TMNT Turtles in Time, Simpsons, and X-Men Arcade all on my PS3.
I've seen a lot of people saying that consoles moving forward should switch to digital only games. I never liked this idea and this series, this video specially reinforced it. Imagine a game being lost forever just because there were no physical releases? There's simply no guarantee that fans will be able to archive it (and most games probably won't be archived anyway) or that companies will do a good job of preserving them.
Emulation is always there! Watching. Waiting.
@@sonicrulez6916 A lot of modern games rely on servers and online features that in many cases won't be possible to back up (often for no good reason).
I remember Re-Shelled, and still have both TMNT games on my 360 as well. Soon as I got an Xbox I was quick to buy both of them and was so glad I did before finding out they were gone forever within a couple years thanks to Nickelodeon's buyout of the property to make the 2012 cartoon. Re-Shelled may not have been anywhere near as good as the SNES port, or even quite what we wanted being based off the arcade version, I still enjoyed it at the time. Getting to jump online and play with strangers on both games was always a fun feature, and trying to tell friends about it years later was like talking about a UFO sighting. You could show them how it looked but never be able to experience it again with them. Now the only option outside of owning a console (or an account that bought the game originally) is to get a PS3 emulator and find the game that way.
But speaking of the TMNT ports, I remember unlocking Turtles in Time on TMNT 3 for Gamecube and immediately was disgusted by the changes in music and sound effects. I don't think I even could finish the first stage before I had to go back to the actual game (and later back to the SNES instead) because it just bothered me too much, even as a teenager. I had no idea they included the original arcade game in TMNT 2, but if it's that badly mixed, I guess I didn't miss much.
What I heard regarding reshelled was that Ubisoft Singapore was sent Konami's original assets including the music and visuals but it was ambiguous in their contract if they were allowed to use Konami's stuff. So they didn't to be safe. The devs knew what they were doing and what would happen. They grew up with the originals in the 80s and 90s too but had to do a job.
@@MortimerZabi I never actually knew the history behind it. I had no issue with the remake myself, but for years I've always heard nothing but hate for it. Personally thought they did a great job with all the character designs and models for the turtles and other mutants, and it's faithful enough a recreation in 3D. Plus survival mode was definitely a fun challenge. It is a shame it didn't really appeal to the masses like I'm sure they hoped, and had such a short shelf life thanks to Nickelodeon stepping in.
I remember in the 360 days of reports that Sunset Riders was coming to Game Room but it never materialized for whatever reason. Glad Hamster got that solid emulated version out there!
Sad to see titles like Turtles in Time Re-Shelled gone forever. It's one of the reasons why I have a jailbroken PS3. I managed to redownload it, and now I own it forever :)
Game is FUN, just a little janky.
Gone Forever just doesn't mean the same thing it used to.
Aw man. A Boy and his Blob on Wii was brilliant XD
B 'n his B is getting way more love in the comments than I anticipated, but I've always called 'em like I see 'em and I don't think I've played a more aggressively mediocre game in my life. It has a hug button, and that's it. We attempted to review it multiple times over the years, but there are games that are way cuter, with better puzzles, better music, better aesthetics overall, but no aspect of it is really that bad.
I still have a working Xbox 360 with TMNT 89, TMNT Reshelled, X-Men and Simpsons Arcade on the hard drive ❤️
Derek, I legit think I just had a flashback during the Krusty Ball music. I played Simpsons Arcade maybe...once when I was 6 years old or so but that sound somehow triggered a deep wave of nostalgia
"Lisa is the Donatello of the Simpsons" I've never felt so much sympathy for Donatello
Great reason to mod your 360, to get these delisted ports and games. Main reason I got mine modded.
Perhaps an ideal collab opportunity with MVG.
The one time I went to magfest, the first few hours I was there I remember being so confused by the wave of Colossus screams that'd roll throughout the entire hotel it seemed before I realized what was triggering it lol
Amazing video! I have been waiting for this episode for soooo long! I still have all these games on my Xbox 360 and I always hit up the X-Men Arcade Machine at Magfest every year!
Something about these videos just really puts me back in that headspace. Derek is the fuckin king.
The X-men arcade game was based on a pilot for an unproduced X-men cartoon series from 1989. You can find it as "Pryde of the X-men".
That's why it doesn't have the voices, the music, nor even the same style as the 1992 series.
I love the CRT in the background of the NES and SNES footage! Must be high end judging by the knobs on it
0:49 Sunset Riders is currently available in the Switch eshop, under the Arcade Archives brand (maybe on other platforms, too), FYI.
Shout out to that amazing dining room table and decor.