This Anime exposed a $28,000,000,000 Sweatshop
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
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Anime is probably the only place where animators are pennies per hour while working in an industry valued at $25 Billion. Why? How? Who came up with this? And why does no one actually care?
Originally meant to be a video on Attack on Titan's creator Hajime Isayama, the constant fracturing of the final seasons of Attack on Titan made me spiral deep into a rabbit hole that I couldn't imagine - stretching all the way back to the 1940s and revealing the century old struggle that some of anime's greatest minds known to history (Hayao Miyazaki, Satoshi Kon, Isao Takahata, and others) fought in to attempt to make anime a better place to work.
These people failed, with catastrophic consequences. Miyazaki and Takahata went to go make Studio Ghibli in the fall out. And so, we look back. Why did they fail? How? Is there anything to do about it?
And why in the world does no one affected by the problem actually care?
The current rotation of anime includes Jujutsu Kaisen 2nd season (JJK), Zom 100, Horimiya: Piece, and Mushoku Tensei season 2.
Heya! Hope you enjoyed the video :)
While I did my best to cover as much as I can in the video, there's only so much information I can cram before it becomes a very technical explanation that bores everyone to death. So if you want more in depth info (and potential solutions*) here's an appendix article I wrote on my site: www.hitregbroke.com/anime/
Also I need more people to VA for me and stuff like that for future videos and people, if u want to come help feel free!: discord.gg/zRGYMHGyaU
Immensely so, resonated with me as an animator. It’s tragic how cruel this convoluted system is.
You’ve earned a sub and a like.
Good video, but only sakuga parts are animated on ones (24fps),
more popular is to animate on twos (12fps) or even trees (8fps)
Ngl i'm halfway through it and i still don't understand sh*t caus you keep cutting your conclusions and change the subject every second. Spinning thousands of 3d images in the montage doesn't help.
What I'm hearing, time to make a corporation that fixes the corporations that run their corporations.
Ken keeps fighting the good fight
Dear fanbase: None of you are helping the situation by harassing the staff with death threats.
So basically every fanbase ever
@@djeghnounsabrina5469 Wanna go for the $6 Million question?
mha moment
Paying a subscription (fck you crunchyroll), purchasing a dvd or buying a merch and figurines didnt help them either. When the phrase "support the artists" doesnt work if they happen to work for a studio company that paid them less and took more for themselves. Now people go and pirate stuff and I'm also guilty for this.
What a sad reality.
@@BiBiren At this point, we should be supporting the very people behind such works, not so much the management up top.
the amount of unpaid overtime animators work is ungodly, I have to wonder whether or not behind shows like zom 100 are a group of people working their asses off to put out content that describes the very conditions they face but aren't able to change anything about
There’s been anime about manga and anime about anime before so… not something new 😅
@@HitRegBroke Zom 100 puts a huge emphasis, in the first episode at least, on the shitty working conditions the mc faces in his advertisement company or whatever it is. They literally show him being so tired and depressed he would've killed himself if there wasn't a railing stopping him. Imagine being an animator and having to slave away for days animating this guy going through that shit, and then him being super happy, knowing that there won't be any zombie apocalypse to save you.
@@ethanhursh8166They definitely recognized the similarities between their conditions and Akira's in the story. The logo for the black company he worked at in the episode is designed Similarly to the OLM studio logo, the production company the Zom 100 director and much of the staff on the show worked at before Bug films studio. Sad that the schedule for the show itself is horrible too.
@@IAMA1the fact they are dissing a previous company but doing the same shit 😢
@@HitRegBroke cause things have to be novelty to be relevant xD
This was utterly heartbreaking. A generation of amazing creators destroyed by corporate greed, using their love of their work as a weapon.
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Unfortunately, the same can also be said of the music industry. Hell, even RUclips to a certain extent as well. Greed destroys all that is good.
The essence of anime has changed. If they promote low quality anime, its going to create a barrier for entry for new people. In this video once again we see this guy talk about chainsaw man as if it was a big deal. Bro that anime will just make people not want to watch anime ever again. All the news revolve around Mappa, they are rigging the US market, I don't even know what audience they are even trying to appeal to. I can assure you is not the same one that in the past would learn Japanese and would make it their life goal to Naruto run in Akihabara. I always thought that great creators in Japan worked to be able to share something amazing(Remember all the free Vocaloid content of the past?), not so that they can become salary man. If these animators have that great of a talent, nothing is stopping them from sitting down and creating their own masterpiece and then selling it. Which I thought should've been their business model. Nobody is asking for fast garbage. It only dilutes the catalogs and makes it harder to find something good to watch.
What you call "corporate greed" is just a product of a system in which we live - capitalism. In this system that puts PROFIT at the top, GREED becomes a VIRTUE.
How can a company extract as much profit as they can? By paying as less as possible so they can take as much as possible. Look around, it's everywhere, every industry operates this way. And it's not something evil, they're just acting according to the internal logic of capitalism.
@@usersar2213 If greed being considered a virtue is a byproduct of a system, and even encouraged by it, then perhaps that system itself is evil.
Satoshi Kon really never lost his passion for what he loved, even on his final day. "I put down my pen with gratitude to all the good things that exist in this world." He never forgot about his dreams, and why he picked up that interest in the first place. Even with all the unfairness of the world and that industry, he was bright enough to appreciate the things that did bring him joy, that made the world a better place. You will be missed. May he rest in peace
"If you have learnt to appreciate what you have, you will never be unsatisfied"
Dude died at 46. He hadn't been crushed yet like Miyazaki.
as someone with an animation degree, when I was in UNI we'd always try to convince anyone who wanted to work in japan to no work in japan. artist's have known that working in japan is shit for ages
Hell I remember as a kid reading manga and sometimes the artists would include bits about how dogshit their life is due to their job. I always felt so bad
I’ve heard of studios trying to get freelance animators basically weeb baiting English speaking animators and illustrators. There was a whole debacle on twitter where a studio tried to claim their terrible pay was perfectly acceptable.
As someone with an animation degree I straight up tell anyone not to be an animator, it's a terrible job anywhere. I always say that animation is the sweatshop work of visual arts. Low pay with long work hours, you're better off working at another minimal wage job and then draw and animate as a hobby, you'll actually enjoy animation as an art more that way and make more money.
@@ladygrey4113 Yeah I actually had some friends take some of those jobs and they said it was a horrible experience. theres basically only one studio in my country that produces anything and the uni I went to the studio just scouts people from their. I'm just gonna dox myself and mention that it's Bluey, every animator from here is pretty proud of Bluey though and even some youtuber animators who live here have worked on it. Australian government pumps a lot of funding in projects that are successful so working for that studio in particular is pretty much the only option here if you want a studio job thats decent.
Working in Japan in general has been shit for ages. Their work mentality has always been regarded as one of the worst and one of the many reason why they commit suicide on mass.
As far as I know, Kyoto Ani was the few studios that gave the animators their health a priority, but since the terrorist attack, they have made their selections for production much more selective
Always surprise me how people are easy to manipulate, Kyoto animation did great with that incident that bring them many donations that never benefit the victims and even worse for the people that stay in the Studio, but looking how many people put certain individuals and specially companies in pedestals like the godlike figure masao maruyama that is one of the true modern slave owner that get a free pass because he mastered the ability to being too NICE that you are literally untouchable and even the salves will defend you is what this will never change
@@d1tto232 where did you find the info about how kyoto anim use those donation money?
@@d1tto232 All the money donated was given to the victim's and their families. The studio didn't take any of it.
@@d1tto232 Sauce?
All I can find is how the victims and their families got 100% of the donations.
It feels like we need to go over the pipeline and fix it. That lowers costs, then you change the "Stock" system, the studio should negotiate with advertisers themselves and cut out the middle men. Then they should have a company make the merchandise for them, but they should sell it to retailers themselves. Only then at that point, when the company is making profit from the revenue streams it's created, will we able to fix the work schedule. 30 really good anime a year is 30 more than we would have if the industry shut down, it also allows for market expansion and the creation of competitors. With less bloat, less work, higher income and a steady stream of revenue from other countries; I think a labor union could properly organise and prevent these issues from cropping up again.
Having looked at that "Pipeline" that was shown in the video, it is possible to change the working conditions of companies with a similar work-structure-pipeline. I also imagine many of the issues could be fixed with A) a more consolidated workforce in a single building. B) More current tech for the staff for management and conditions (Ex. Organising a list of features in a word doc and sending it instead of having to either call a team member or using the dogshit they have in japanese offices) and C) Control of the revenue produced by the IP created/ licensed.
Much of the problem with the industry is the weekly uploads. So the first thing to go would be that, then next up would be removing irrelevant redundancies in the work pipeline, and then consolidating the workforce. If you want to fix a company, you need to think like a soulless bastard and reduce people to numbers; What is your goal? What are the obstacles to this goal? Is there a way to remove and/or lessen the obstacles to your goal? Is there a way of providing Incentive for the removal of obstacles? Is there a reason why a company might want to keep those obstacles? Is there a way to instigate these changes?. We have a definitive answer for all these questions; Yes.
Goal: The improvement of working conditions for the workers of Animation (Anime) Studios of Japan.
Obstacles: Inherit overwork expectations of Managers on all levels, Weekly Upload schedule, Lack of consolidation of workforce, Lack of funding for paying workers proper wages due to lack of varied revenue streams and no control over contracts.
Solutions: Remove Weekly upload schedule, either pay for workers to fly to japan or create regional offices, Start crating the merchandise yourself or go to the companies that actually produce the stuff yourself. Allow for Stock system, but only as beneficiaries of profits made by the production company, only allow for a minority share to be held by foreign companies. Audit your pipeline and remove unnecessary expenses, such as Paper copies and expensive office equipment, printers and such.
With more time, less scrapping will occur. With less need for paper and physical copies, you lower utilities payments for ink, paper, maintenance and various other tools and utensils around the office.
These are the start of what is required for working conditions to improve among all animators. Fulfillment can be brought to fruition through the use of a Labor union, or a free consult for animation studios.
Truth be told, the horrid treatment of animators goes well beyond the anime industry; it's the near entirety of East Asian work culture that does this. It's just that's the anime industry so happens to be the tip of the iceberg.
Edit; I also recognize that the near entirety of Visual Arts sees similarly horrendous treatment (albeit to a greater extent across East Asia, particularly in Japan, South Korea, and even China) across the Spectrum.
Animators aren't well treated in the rest of the world either, sadly. For example, the people who worked on Into The Spiderverse have spoken up about the mistreatment they're endured
@@lilbread1717yeh it’s just unfortunate how it’s just a losing battle for the very people that make the movie/show even possible to get good pay and work environment
perhaps, but the animation and art industries (all across the globe, though especially worse in japan) are specifically unique cases of workers being extremely EXTREMELY abused and exploited. of course east asian work culture doesn’t help in the slightest but every single visual arts industry is entirely fucked
there is no truth in your comment lol, it's a global phenomenon, not just "east asian". Why do you think strikes happen so often all over the world. The difference is animators are easily exploited because most do it because of passion, passion careers are very easily exploited. Just like "feel good volunteer" jobs.
You should look at hollywood at all the grassroot workers on movie set that actually make movies work, they pretty much get peanuts for all their work bare minimums (and thats thanks to unionizing and guilds strikes). Actors get the biggest bite of the pie, studios get the aftersales, and workers get peanuts.
Then there's the writers/guild strikes too.
East Asia giving the puritans a run for their money
I remember reading Bakuman and one of its chapters I used to like now just upsets me.
In one chapter, the two Mangaka characters in the series have "made it" by launching a couple titles into serialization. At a high school reunion, most of their former classmates laugh and joke when discussing their careers in a sort of lighthearted manner. Then they spot how blackened, scarred and chipped their fingers and palms are from holding pen and ink all day long. That chapter when I was young seemed like it was trying to say Mangakas are just as important and honorable a career as anything else.
But now older, I look at that series and chapter in a really different light. Can you imagine being a Tokyo corporate worker with a successful Mangaka friend and seeing those two as the ideal relaxed, content and satisfied career goals people in your student group? Can you imagine how it would feel when you notice how ragged, burned out and destroyed their bodies are for an art you enjoyed as a kid? I would lose all my innocence at that point and become depressingly disillusioned.
When I read that chapter again, the faces of shock and dull surprise on those classmates don't tell me they acknowledge the two Mangakas as real career people, it also tells me they're completely taken aback by how equally corporate and slave-driving it is just like their jobs.
Man, this comment got me feeling chills...
I started tearing up. Miyazaki is someone I admire and the pain in his voice, oh wow. And everyone who has passed on it just sucks.
Good to know I did what I intended (:
@@HitRegBrokeyou’re a goddamn monster. Great job.
@@legomania2427for spreading knowledge ? The point of the video was to show how upsetting it is in order to inspire change and talk around this problem.
@@nitebreak ever heard of sarcasm? The "great job" part isn't sarcastic while "you're a goddamn monster" is sarcastic. In other words, they're calling the work they did actually "great" while sarcastically saying it makes them a monster to show this kind of stuff.
Unless they were serious in which case I'd be surprised.
@@rikuleinoneni struggle sometimes to tell, to me it read as serious. I apologize if they meant it sarcastically. I am autistic so i don’t always pick up on certain things
What’s crazy is how the fan base makes things worse by threatening in general and then harassing the WRONG people. Like guys, getting it wrong twice isn’t gonna bring back some anime from 6 years ago if they can’t afford to eat
Edit - wild 1.2k is enough people to change the industry guys let’s try something like boycotting and expressing why it’s wrong. It’s not helpful if it’s just me and some RUclipsrs 💕with love
Barking at the wrong 🌲
Cuz they always be chronically online n' shit, they just feeding the flame! They don't know how good they have it, 24/7 internet access, saying what they say without consequence nor penalty, goading these people for the sake of their own amusement, it baffles me. All they do is just consume, and consume, and consume, and consume, they don't leave their houses, or shower, they just know what to watch, how to watch, and talk shit, and do whatever it takes to get what they want when they don't get it their way (like harassment and death threats). And this applies to any online community in general, but I'm especially heavily implying this towards online anime communities and fanbases alike. Capable of bringing several like-minded people together through passion, only to weaponize it as hatred, how repulsive.
I mean the companies make sure the general public is blind to things like this how can you shoot your target if you cannot see?
Lol@@Milgamix77
Harassing the "wrong" People. As in there is right people to harass 💀💀💀
I feel disgusted. Miyazaki’s words stuck with me. The corporations abusing him and his workers, with little to no good pay or experience, slaving away took his hobby and twisted it into something horrible and does more harm than good. I feel terrible. Probably one of the view videos on this site that made me cry.
What a snowflake omg bring back bullying 2024 you sound soooooo lame
This video was made with tremendous amount of passion and good will, but for clarity's sake... Miyazaki's quotes here are rather too heavily edited. The clip name [ Hayao Miyazaki about dreams [ENG] ] is a good point to start for what he was saying, it's taken from [The Kingdom of Dreams and Madness] which recorded him at the time while he's making The Wind Rises, so from my point of view, his message was more about our society in general rather than the industry specifically.
(This is by no mean suggesting that Miyazaki doesn't think the industry should do better, I would personally say he's painfully wishes so as well)
Miyazaki is famously a brutal taskmaster and worked Yoshifumi Kondo to death. I'm sure he was sad at the loss of a friend and colleague but Princess Mononoke killed him.
Sadly people don't care long as they get their gratification and consumption of something.
And Im considered probably a "idealistic capitalist" but even I don't approve all this rancid corporate garbage.
Sensitive crybaby.
The worst part is that a lot of people, even outside of Japan, already knew how cutthroat the industry is, and they either didn't believe the complaints or didn't care. A lot of people only started caring when it started affecting their viewing experience (not only in Yakusoku no Neverland but also in Mappa productions), and even then a lot of them just pushed the blame on the animators, because of course they did.
It's also not just animators that suffer in Japan, pretty much any worker in any industry is unfortunately overworked over there. I seriously hope they manage to fix their situation.
it is the same in the game industry people didn't believe how horrible it is until recently
And only the people at the top get any reward. Is it any wonder why their economic miracle burst in the 90s?
@@DGTelevsionNetwork at this point I think the only chance animators have for better working conditions is if the economy bursts again
No different than gaming, players dont care about the crunch or shit wages, long as i get my games! Plus its a DREAM JOB.
I'm so glad this showed up on my YT timeline. With the labor issues blowing up with Mappa through Jujutsu Kaisen I finally can see the Japanese perspective on collective bargaining. the Japanese animation industry can not sustain itself like this with hair breadth margins. SAGAFTRA should really help them get started in unionizing. the time to strike is now.
There will always be a way which is terrible long term but great for short term profits and it will always be taken
Something like SAG-AFTRA simply can't work in Japan's animation industry and the reason for that is "globalization".
Animators are the lowest rung in the production process, in the same way that programmers are in the tech industry. As such they are vulnerable to outsourcing and development in technology like AI. As the cost of living in Japan increase and their economy stagnates, the cost of production and labour in Japan also increase, so the moment they start outsourcing animation jobs to Korea in the mid to late 2000s, Japanese animators begin to lost their bargaining power.
The whole complicated financing structure that you see in the video was created to cope with the rising cost of production due to customers expectations of quality and the economy of Japan at that time, meaning the moment the cost of production in Japan cease to be economically viable (labour law, cost of living, labour union, general economic downturn etc etc), they simply move production outside of Japan. That is also why government intervention are critical at that time as only they can reduce the cost of production by providing the needed legal and tax structure to support local production, thus preserving whatever bargaining chips that the animators still have.
Basically, the root of the problem is economic. Without a better financing structure, the industry will collapse. Without government incentives and/or changes in Japanese labour cost, the industry will also collapse. The only alternative is outsourcing as then the only victim would be the animators. It matter not if all animators unionize because by the time they launch their first strike, more than 50% of the work are already being done by outsourced labour. In fact, there already are anime that are fully animated outside of Japan with the only thing Japanese about it is the IP, voice acting and financing. The moment it became the norm, the animation industry in Japan would simply be no different than call centers industry in US ( and by that I mean mostly done in India).
Isn't SAGAFTRA an *American* related thing? And don't get me wrong, I think it would be tremendously great to get them to strike, or at least be able to, but let's be realistic here, who in the hell in Hollywood of all places loves Anime as much as the consumers of today, to help start some form of unionization for underpaid and worked animators that have been put in place by a dated system already put in place by the country of origin that continues to this day with little to no sign of updating its conditions to better suit the health standards of those animators, sorry to be that guy, but I just don't see that happening, not at all, at least not soon.
"I guess we'll never know." - Ye
@@jt6924 I am a member of the United Brotherhood of Carpenters and Joiners of America. While being primarily a North American union, the UBC has international chapters and has absorbed a number of smaller international unions; where it continues to operate their chapters. There have been proposals within my own union to change our name to the International Association of Carpenters as the union expands internationally. I don't see why SAGAFTRA couldn't also expand internationally. Worker solidarity transcends borders and languages. I'm sure there are SAGAFTRA members pushing for international expansion already, and Japan's animation industry would be a prime expansion candidate.
@jt6924 There are representatives of the burned out animators at mappa who are trying to appeal to Sagaftra to teach them how to unionize better. I don't know if Sag will respond but it's something.
As a jojo fan I know we complain about having to wait 3-5 years between releases for the anime, but at least DP isn’t making workers slave away to get us the anime quicker.
You can make it take forever so long as you’re being ethical ❤️
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Really? DP work environment is really that good?
@@ChannelFFPKV2024Sementara idk but apparently it’s good enough for us to wait 5 years or more for the next season 💀
Just a simple search can tell you that Jojo animators definitely didn’t get enough for their work on the show
seeing all the animator's written sentiments and miyazaki's talk on dreams was heartbreaking. the fact that these people spent so much time and effort polishing their craft and chasing their dreams only to be drafted into that hellhole of an industry fucking hurts
They made a bad choice for your enjoyment. Welcome to reality.
@@debeb5148”they made a bad choice”
Ah yes, surely it’s the fault of the people who got manipulated rather than the industry that deceives talented people into joining and then exploits them for every penny they earn 🤨
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What absolutely boggles my mind is the insistence on perpetuating it when there are alternatives that still allow you to pursue the passion. At a certain point the misery is self-inflicted.
In 2015 i went to tokyo to meet with an Anime company to try and pitch myself as an animator. Thankfully my skills were laughable but most interestingly the director i interviewed with stressed how tough it was and how i didn’t want to be an animator. The french animator expat that worked there stressed with real pain in his eyes the sacrifices he had made as well.
that's brave you even did that, hats off to you my friend
@@HitRegBroke yeah, I was already living in JP and doing art so I thought, why not? Ultimately it was a super cool experience
y'know this reminded me...
Too few people have ever talked about the European animation industry. It's much smaller than the Japanese one but it does exist, I'd say spearheaded by France, Italy and maybe the UK.
All jobs test u and ask if u don’t want to do it made no sense to stop should just been an animator ur life would be better
This is the highest quality and most thoroughly researched anime-related video I’ve seen on this platform in recent memory. Thank you for producing such a poignant and touching video, and I hope your work gets the attention it deserves.
Thank you for the kind words!
@@HitRegBroke personally i find the editing is distracting, hard for me to catch up with the info. Just my opinion
@@HitRegBroke At nearly 21,000 views, you best believe your video is getting some kind of attention.
@@Iamwolf13460k right now
It’s already jumped up quite a bit
21:03 It is INSANE to think that the government would so boldly say that "it is a waste of money". Anime is not just bringing revenue in the country through online media and merch, it is bringing tourism! So many people are enamored by Japan and had their first exposure to Japanese culture by watching anime.
''waste of money''
one of their biggest cultural exports: pokemon
They’re politicians, what did you expect?
@windrose5988
A drop in the bucket full of thousands of different drops. 88 bil isn’t a small amount on its own when Japan has thousands of successful industries of all kinds.
Don't know about you but looking at the math 88 billion is 1/57 of japans entire GDP. That's just one franchise alebit the biggest one in anime. To put that into perspective though, Japan's total GDP of "just pokemon" in the from the USA's total GDP would be the equivalent to Jeff Bezos(Amazon), Mark ZuckerBerg(Facebook), Bill Gates & Steve balmers(microsoft) Net worth combined. This is not just a drop in the bucket, it is quite frankly astronomic and would lead to a collapse in the economy if it were to suddenly vanish. There is more anime than just pokemon too. That is the equivallent to saying if, microsoft, amazon, and facebook were to abbrutly dissapear the US would be "perfectly fine." Also, If pokemon is 1/57 then is the entirety of anime double or triple that number (2/57 Or 1/19)?@windrose5988
Many politicians believe or not are not qualified to be in power they will make promises that will attract the masses but nce in power most of those promises will be unfulfiled there are excemptions to this but sadly the world we live in most politicians are just the same copy pasre.
This was the most gut-wrenching documentary I have ever seen on anime production. No other video on this topic has ever struck a chord with me like this one. Seriously, those final moments nearly had me in tears. This deserves so much more views!
Seriously, it felt like I would start crying even though I didn’t experience the pain these individuals had to deal with, super well made
Not me
What I thought was a thrilling documentary video exposing shady anime industry loopholes around piracy and/or animator exploitations, turned into a very eye-opening struggle on how animators try to get a grip on the chokehold of Japanese' corporate greed in industrializing anime. I've never realised that anime industry runs on a very busted business model. The end was very heartfelt and I couldn't help but feeling heartbroken by all of this.
Thankyou for shedding light in this topic
This video was made with tremendous amount of passion and good will, but for clarity's sake... Miyazaki's quotes during "On Dreams" are rather too heavily edited. The clip name [ Hayao Miyazaki about dreams [ENG] ] is a good point to start for what he was saying, it's taken from [The Kingdom of Dreams and Madness]. (This is by no means suggesting that Miyazaki doesn't want the industry to improve, nor that things aren't bad.)
All those human animators who can feel emotion who work in those Japanese cartoon studios who are subjected to shitty working conditions and are overworked to death should be replaced with emotionless, mechanical robots, and if these Japanese cartoon studios don't replace their emotional human employees with emotionless robots, I will sue the fuck out of them.
This is one of the reasons I am in school for engineering now. I went to school and graduated for 3d animation, but after being unable to find a job and hearing the countless stories of animators being worked to the bone I decided I needed to to start a new career path. I know this video is Japanese anime and not American 3d animation, but there are similar problems going on over here too. It really is quite heartbreaking.
Good luck man. I'd recommend getting into electrical engineering or similar, because the rest of em have difficult job prospects
Also applies to the AAA video game industry sadly.
I did the same thing, and at times I wish I could have continued in animation but poverty is far too common in the industry. hope you do great in engineering
That´s why I kept 3D as a side hobby. Thought about working in the games industry, but after seeing what´s actually going on there, I just kept it as a hobby (especially for 3D printing) and instead started working with animals. Not getting rich with that either but I can´t imagine doing anything else anymore, really.
It’s sad that all over the world, that animation is dying.
I thought Hayao Miyazaki was just a grumpy old man. I always wondered how a man with that personality could make works so magica and hopeful. Now, i understand where he comes from completely 😢 thank you for making this video!
He still never helps the anime industry. Just making his movies that doesn't affect the industry at all.
He's an extremely regressive individual.
Average 19th century captain of industry
I mean.. He IS just a grumpy old man, lmao
@@Kaimax61 because he very explicitly does not approve of the way the industry is going. he does his own thing.
The production values in this video are jaw dropping, very visually satisfying to watch. Goodluck with your channel.
Much appreciated!
But a big problem, proven in video game crunch. All this ridiculous production cost could be fixed by better management and actually saner business models. One episode every week non stop or video games that balloon because of nonstop execs demanding randomly hype mechanics or business models (love service, wow killers, next battle Royale, etc.).
Us fans can don't want this we just only have this ecosystem to feed it's self destroying cycle.
@@TempRawr I'm pretty sure it's a compliment.
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400 hours in a month is like literally over 16 days straight drawing and producing non stop, not a chance to go home, and barely eating breakfast, lunch and dinner inside the studio.
One of the few studios i can think of that actually treats their workers with decency is Kyoto Animation, Many people know them for their famous works, from the Key adaptations, to the famous adaptations of K-On! and Haruhi Suzumiya. But the fact is, people working for Kyoto Animation are generally employed. The studio is fully staffed with animators who are paid with a monthly salary AND overtime. They also receive a range of benefits, including 30,000 yen per month for travel expenses. This should be the standard for all studios, but it's upsetting to see how horribly other studios treat their workers in comparison. Most anime studios rely to various degrees on freelancers. These freelancers are paid horribly, often per cut or even worse by a really bad salary. We can just hope that other studios start treating their workforce with decency.
This is corporate Japan we're talking about. I highly doubt it. If the anime industry mistreats its artists this greatly, then the system should be burned and it's workers should simply abandon Japan for another country and job. Then they can watch as Japan destroys itself and be content in the fact that they managed to escape.
@@adrammelechthewroth6511 So, basically pay more to get ethical work, even though they likely don't have money for that? You do realize not all people have that money? I think it should be taken to the government of Japan, because those people I know that they are able to pass on labor laws to prevent that.
There is so much shovelware out there in anime it can be hard to find good ones. Now that I know all this, it sounds like supporting anime from good studios is the goal as a consumer.
Just another reason why Kyoto Animation is loved.
Well, at least one studio does it.
What about Studio Ghibli though? I would think that since they were founded by the same Labor Union Miyazaki, they would have good conditions.
I was honestly a bit stunned when Miyazaki said "it's a cursed dream... What a shit world". I've been working everyday since 2012 to become an illustrator and animator, giving up relationships, friendships and my health for it and now that I'm finally getting ready to leave my meaningless programing job to persuade what I worked so hard for I get replaced by a machine...
Yeah sorry man but you’re probably going to have to go back to programming lmao
Regardless of if ai ends up being anything more than a fad or not the entertainment industry as a whole is a nightmare and I think for your own sake it’d be best to stay away from it
Keep that shit as a hobby, not a full-time job. Don’t throw away your life to fulfill a dream which simply cannot come true
If your IT job give you good money, you might want to stick with it. I used to work in IT company and later quit to follow 'dream freelance artist job' for 1 year which didn't work. So, I went back to IT job which I got a really good pay. I'm still following my dream to self publish my own work as a side project though.
One comic artist said to me "you don't have to do the job that you like to do"
I work as an ilustrator and animator. Stick to your job, and take comissions and projects related to this on the side. They aren't that abundant, and especially as you start by, it's gonna be hard to keep a cash flow which will severly impact your finances and credit score, not to mention the stress of deadlines might impact your health since stuff like that weekly thing will put extra pressure on how fast you can draw, more than how creatively you can do it. And it won't be worth it to earn money just to spend it on medicine. It's ok to dream, but do not throw reality away for a dream.
No no. AI will certainly take jobs, but it won't take all of them. And your opportunities will adapt. If you want to work as an animator at a big corporation on someone else's project? Yes, that may be taken, you're functionally doing the same thing as AI. If all you give is your technical skill, you'd be replaced (Same thing can be said for being replaced by another human in some ways.). You can, however, survive on good ideas and innovation. You can still make your own games, tell your own stories, and do your own animations. And you still have a place in the creative process even at the table of a corporation's animation team, but it all depends on what exactly you bring. If all you bring is technical skill, you probably wont keep your job. If you bring ideas, humor, charisma, unpredictable gesture, subversive stories, the knowledge of anatomy and how to tastefully break its rules, your job will be as safe as it ever was.
One of his famous quotes was "anime was a mistake" It's thrown around alot to piss people off
I know 50% of anime’s fans don’t care about this but it’s a fucked up world that’s only getting worse with time that people like us can barely scratch the surface of
I mean, most people pirate the anime..
The nail on the head.....this is not an isolated issue and it's not isolated to creative industry. Everywhere there is money to be made....this will always keep happening.
@@nkululekobuthelezi7748 Consumerism and Capitalism. It's all there is.
But at the same time, as people from overseas and regular anime fans, can we really do something about it? I think the best we can do is respect the amount of work that is done (...which is the bare minimum that some people can't even do).
@@yyukiza Even if they don't it won't change much sadly. Profit from anime is peanuts, it's the merch/games/derived products that matter the most.
No matter how successeful the anime is, the wages won't change much and the artists will continue to work in horrendous environment with impossible demands and deadlines for the benefit of their shareholders.
Actually with 0.1% shares of Apple I would be:
A. Rich beyond my wildest dreams and
B. Actually able to influence the decision making process.
Most of Apple shares are spread so thinly as to not matter at all. 84% of all of their shares are held in mutual funds. Those have hard time to give direction to the company. Only 1% are held by individuals. I would literally hold 10% of all shares held by individuals.
finally this guy gets it
You totally misunderstood unless that is you think that having around 2 dollars makes you "rich beyond your wildest dreams"😂
At 7:22 he said "point one shares of Apple" not "point one *percent* of Apple shares".
If there was one video I wish every anime fan could watch this year, it would be this. Genuinely exceptional work, the level of research you have done is beyond incredible. What I also really admire about your style of storytelling, is just how cut and dry you are. There is no beating around the bush, no bullshit, just the cold-hard but upsettingly dark facts.
Honestly this is my favourite video by you yet
Thank you Mickkkkkkk
@@HitRegBrokethis will give you hope go check out Glitch Productions made by Smg4, they’re the only independent studio who offers Shows to underrated creators and give them a lot of power along with Treating their animators well, they Made “Murder Drones”and “Digital Circus”
This happens a lot in many creative, project based industries: TV, movies, video games, anime and manga. It's a shame it's gotten so bad in the animation industry.
Unfortunately it usually takes lot of time to build proper unions, competition, and work culture which will make things better, like aviation and car industry were same, people did it because they liked it and were exploited, in these days its much better.
It's part and parcel of the creative arts being derided and belittled as worthless, even while the whole world swoons at the products of artists' work. People will tear up at a symphony, applaud incredible movies, consume video games, and become complete otaku anime fanatics, all the while thinking artists just do it for fun and don't need to be paid because it's just worthless.
@@belisarian6429 One thing that WILL INEVITABLY help this process are declining qualified workers. As long as a company can just get rid of you, because there are 100 more in line to have your job, they won' change anything. The moment, there is noone to replace you or its really hard to get one, it will lead to improvements of working conditions, because now every studio has to compete for a dwindling number of qualified workers.
With Japans decline in population, this will come to fruit very quickly and it might come too fast for the industry to adapt or even realize it. Thats the biggest fear there is. Japan will need to change everywhere, because if they don't, the country will stop being able to function as a developed nation in 50-60 years.
Yep when they asked if I wanted to work on game designs or website design, I chose website. Game design is so toxic in general you have to hear negativity from the people playing the game and negativity from the boss and have so much pressure. I bet that company will make a lot but pay us little.
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Very true! Something that will probably change is people's outlook on art in terms of work, and self-identity when related to work/maintaining a job in general. Things like art being set aside for a hobby or a small side hustle while the artist also works a different job, or they go to work for an indie company that doesn't have the same issues as other companies do might happen.
There'll need to be a lot of changes in the industries around the world (including Japan), but it's going to be a long struggle to get there... 0_0
This really hit me where it hurts. Couldn't hold back during Miyazaki's eulogy. It's just really unfair that the people working on anime have no escape.
For real
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They work overtime because it's been normalized in their culture to work to death plus these people have no social life and no family to share with and they basically want to kill themselves; so this is a cultural problem that is slowly seeping into western society with the "female liberation" as its trojan horse (refer to male loneliness epidemic)
@@EEEEEEEEevil loser.
except they do. 😂😂😂 these losers just didn't want to get fired from a shitty job
Only problem with giving back is that most people that care about workers are workers themselves being exploited already. I cant give much when i fight the possibility of going homeless working 60hr/week and eating mostly expired products i can find on a discount when i can afford to make it to the store.I love the creators passions with a passion of my own which inspires myself and many others in similar positions, but as the industrial standard shifts into a sweatshop standard, the ability for the individual to push back against corporate agenda diminishes. We currently have global unrest and protests, but also global corporate agendas to stifle and silencer the outcry. Thank you for having such publicity to at least get this story out there, so that people can see whats happening, even if they are powerless to stop it.
As someone who’s always dreamed on taking on animation, this is such a tragic thing to see
yea im surprised these animators are even continuing to work, the industry will never change if they keep letting themselves get treated like that
@@FemboyKaiSaku yeah- maybe they think they have no other choice or think if they continue, it’ll get better? (Or ofc signed contracts that force them to keep working for certain period of time)
Overall, it seems like doing animation for games is an area where the demands are a lot less intensive. Although, the video game industry can be pretty exploitative, it isn't near as bad as what I have heard about the anime, and even some of the general animation industry.
@@kizzanimations3024 unfortunately yea they do get stuck in those contracts, but its not like many of these animators are quitting when the contracts are over. Really hope stuff improves for them
@@FemboyKaiSaku The production committee only has to allocate a fraction of a fraction of their profits to studios and wages and this problem wouldn't exist.
Came for the story, stayed for the god tier editing. Seriously, your editing prowess is elite.
aw thank you
Well done. People have this image that we anime goers aren't sophisticated, compelling, or able, but you went through great detail, went through a great deal of extraction to bring us this information. God bless. We may need a third-party, an outside entity to start donating to artists directly who are able to draw the impeccable art that we see. Based on a rating system, albiet structured fairly, this system will pay donations to individual artists/artist on top of the pay they get from studios.
@@HitRegBroke Just a question, were you the one who edited this? Because this is seriously insane
I don't even like anime, I was curious about the title but my god the editing (and your clear and concise explanations) - I might sub to your channel even though I'm not a huge fan of non-live action forms of entertainment XD
way too many quick cuts and animations. Makes it distracting from what he's actually saying half the time.
@@user-uy5py5ih2t that's what works for our new generations of Short Attention Span kids. They needs tons of stimulations.
What the hell is the production value of this video, this is batshit insane levels of video editing and storytelling, I had my jaw dropped the whole time while watching this video not believing it was this well made. When I finished watching it I was like just DAMN
Aww thank you for all the compliments 😳
I agree with this person... immediate subscription!
Same. Can't imagine how long it took lol
I agree
This is why, no matter what, it will always be best for the consumers to change.
We don't need a new anime episode every week. We don't need a sequel to a game every 5 years. We don't need any of these things that just encourage these careless companies to overwork their work force.
The animators, the developers, the menial laborers - they'll work hard because they love their work. They'll take lower pay because they love their work. They'll skip sleep because they love their work.
So, corporations, it's not as if you'll lose a ton of profits from this. It's not as if you'll have to pay significantly more for work. It's not as if you'll struggle to keep people working on your products. We've already established this. Workers will work if they love their work. Just. Extend. Your. Deadlines.
Give your workers the chance to rest. Give your workers the option to go home and be with their family. Give your workers the budget to eat healthy meals every now and again. Allow your workers to live their life how they want to: And they'll work harder for you - not only that, but they'll make BETTER products for you. Better products that people WILL PAY MORE MONEY FOR.
And we consumers have to show this. We can't demand more from these companies, corporations, or groups.
If anything, all we should do is demand that they *extend their deadlines*.
No, we shouldn't demand that they "respect their workforce more" - these companies, corporations, and groups will only translate those words into "lose hundreds of thousands of dollars by bending to the endless needs of our workers".
Not because they're terrible horrible people: But because they see everything from a telescope. They don't know their workers, the people they're managing everything for, and they don't see why they should give up their time and effort to visit at least a ten of them. They're so separated, so compartmentalized, so far removed from the field that they don't understand what everyone's complaining about. Complain and argue all you want that that's what's wrong with these industries: but at the end of the day, artists and creators require these people to manage their businesses if the artists/creators want to continue building up their series to higher and higher heights.
This relationship is similar to a farmer, a transporter, a butcher, and a restaurant owner. Each of them have their woes and goals that the other sides are unaware of - but they all need each other if they want to reach their dreams. If a single person is all of the above, they'll likely never reach that dream in their lifetime, or worse: they'll reach their dream faster, but not have enough time to enjoy it.
Point is: In order to communicate to these companies, corporations, and groups, sympathy IS NOT the way to go. Large companies, corporations, and groups got to where they were by being cutthroat - they threw out sympathy years ago. No, how you speak to them is with profit margins and agreeable negotiations.
These companies, corporations, and groups NEED TO KNOW: THAT YOU ARE WILLING TO PAY MORE FOR A BETTER PRODUCT THAT TAKES TIME, RATHER THAN ONE MADE QUICKLY. THEY NEED TO HEAR THIS. THEY NEED TO SEE THIS.
You know how the video game industry is constantly nickel and diming?
DLCs. Season Passes. Expansions. Microtransactions. Gacha. Paid early access.
It's because video games are becoming more and more expensive to make, but consumers AREN'T willing to pay more for them. So how in the world can the publishers pay the developers to make these games and still make a good profit from it (developers don't get paid by sales, they get paid by publishers - and publishers are paid by sales)?
By keeping the prices the same and making people pay for the value of the game 100x over with microtransactions.
People complaining about games being $70 now? If they knew more about the costs of game production, they'd realize these games were WORTH $70 back in the 2010s, arguably back in the 2000s.
Average (major developer) games nowadays are worth $90-$130 per consumer to make profit. High-end games nowadays are worth $120-$150 per consumer. And yet consumers nowadays are only willing to pay $60 - and then pay $300 afterwards in microtransactions. It's insane.
The same goes here, folks...
Unless you want artists to work completely on their own (very VERY VEEEERRRRYYYY few of them have any business sense to them... it's why artists are often poor and struggling: they lack marketing skills), we ALL have to rely on these corporations to help produce and release our anime.
Crowdfunding is the other option, of course, but 90% of paying consumers (we're ignoring the ones who just want a free ride) are rarely ever aware when a crowdfunding project they're interested in is up. I was a HUGE Suikoden 2 fan, and I wasn't even aware of Eiyuden Chronicles' (same makers) crowdfunding project until it had already come and gone. Crowdfunding is not at major-populace-levels of success yet. It's not reliable enough at this moment.
So... if you want to see your favorite manga get turned into an anime... Then we all need to voice, and show (put our money where our mouth is), that we'd RATHER WAIT MONTHS FOR HIGHER QUALITY, RATHER THAN WEEKLY INSTALLMENTS.
Let that be known, let that be heard, pay for it, and you'll start to see changes.
Might as well have deadlines that are, idk, a century or a millennium for its development b4 release, if wanted better products.
Completely unrelated, but what you have just said about companies not knowing their employees and being completely separated from their workforce reminded me a lot to Karl Marx. And you are correct. Either way, yeah, we should make companies know that we need to make time. And the worst part is that they aren't really that smart regarding money: most companies, in their sheer greed, will make the most stupid decisions you will ever see that will only make them lose money in the long term.
Hell even if they wanted to make a show run on a weekly basis, you do not produce episodes in BATCHES.
That's just MAD.
Funny how zom 100 is literally about someone escaping an overworking job with very little hours to spare, it’s like the animators are drawing their own company..
Thanks for making this video. The Japanese animators deserves a living wage and be able to eat, sleep, take breaks, etc. for the hard work they do. I'm an animator in a HCOL area in Boston but make minimum wage pretty much even with a degree. I'm already considering a career switch into tech and keep animation as a hobby.
Damn I'm really sorry to hear that :/ Hope that transition goes well!
Hope it goes well
Good luck! I heard that animating for youtube channels is a decently-paid job, but you have to find someone to wok for or to make your own channel. I honestly wish we could have independent anime studios making anime for independent anime websites (crounchyroll competitors), with subs and dubs managed either by the anime studios or (in exchange for a fee) by the website where they are uploaded, which is how I think this issue can start being solved. I think that, by removing the inefficiencies, anime can be reborn, even if it means getting only one episode per month, or anime becoming more like movies in the sense that all episodes of a season are finished before the first episode of the season gets released even if each episode gets released one week after the previous episode.
I think that increasing wages only makes the problem worse, the fundamental problem is an unsustainable industry with more money then sense - and by more money I mean a massive amount of dept. There just is not enough of an audience and too much competition to make up the production costs, and increasing said costs further does not solve it.
What the anime industry needs is to scale almost everything down to a level that they can actually afford to make 13 episodes. If you look at the western games industry, small games studios seem to be doing well while the larger ones are bleeding money, the problem is not unique to anime.
What really needs to happen is for all of the bloat in the projects to be kicked out, especially middle management and for there to be fewer production committees on each anime - because even one company that owns a stock in the anime is already one person not concerned with making the anime itself but with making money off it. A disconnected idiot who does not really understand what making anime involves.
I feel this. I worked at a company that "encouraged" me to work 7 days a week. Which eventually became 7 days a week for 2 shifts (~15 hours) a day. I lasted 9 months and then basically collapsed and was fired for "not caring about my work". At least I got paid more than minimum wage and got overtime. These guys don't seem to have even that.
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ok how's laboral exploitation something to brag about or to be joyful about?
Learn how to read@@aetherland1883
@@aetherland1883it's an anecdote to relate to the animators, not bragging about his experience.
@@aetherland1883How tf are they bragging????? Nothing about their comment is a brag. Re-read the comment. Bruh
Hearing Miyazaki's touching eulogy to his long time pal was so wholesome and solemn....great video!
thanks for watching :)
A anime veteran here, This is the first time where It felt justified to spend money on a RUclips video, the sed part was, me and my friend discussed these stuff as theories back in 2010s, and of all our wishes, we strived to be in a position where we can influence the industry itself
Anyhoo, please keep making these videos, while this is not the correct value for the work u put in, but it just felt disgusting not providing something of value in return for such an awesome product
Imagine giving a rich RUclipsr who hates you money while most struggle lol dam what a azz kisser
Anime Veteran meaning Veteran of the industry or just a very active consumer of the medium? If the former, any chance you can confirm if it's something similar to game Dev, where a lot of projects just get forced through before they've found a really good leader or director who understands the project?
Honestly, I wish we had an indie alternative to Crunchyroll, used by indie anime creators to publish their anime online for the whole world to see and pay for, and have the option to have a few episodes of a series free to view in order to convince people to pay for the whole series to be able to watch it at any time or have a part of the cost of a subscription on that website going to the anime creators (the subscription cost minus the fee from the website hosting that series, the result of that divided by the watch time of that user amongst all the episodes that user watched). Unfortunately, the current way of major studios controlling what gets released, how it's made, and everything else, is no longer financially feasible. So much so, that it feels like the companies currently in control of anime are actually a pyramid scheme.
@@ghostkill221 the latter, have spent too much time for too long as a consumer , however our company designs compilers for game engines , so we have a lot of contact with independent game devs, especially in asia and europe, so yes we do get to hear a lot about the creative process being sped up, with influx of millions , and the donors who want immediate profit
ITS SAD MAN, if u see, its just disheartening, especially with more consumption, the dilution of studios exchanging employees, and one employee work on 4-5 different styles of anime/gameplay/design, at the same time, obviously with no overtime, and the contract workers sometime have a atleast 1-2 year waiting period before receiving payment
By logic hes probably an animator @@ghostkill221
As someone who loves anime and animation and myself has worked in the industry as a outsourced animator I know the feeling of being overworked and severely underpaid. The part where 23:02 "isn't anime just some glorified hobby?" NGL I felt that so hard.
This video was made with tremendous amount of passion and good will, but for clarity's sake... Miyazaki's quotes around that part are rather too heavily edited, especially in terms of their order. The clip name [ Hayao Miyazaki about dreams [ENG] ] is a good point to start for what he was saying, it's taken from [The Kingdom of Dreams and Madness].
(This is by no mean suggesting that Miyazaki doesn't want the industry to improve, I would personally say he's painfully wishes so as well)
It's really sad the cost of animation. The results are truly beautiful, but the people who worked the hardest to bring you that beauty are unrecognized and unpaid. It's sad to think of the media I love, the people who worked hardest on it, when I give that media my money it doesn't give it to the artists I love. It's sad.
An attempt to remedy that was shown on screen briefly near the end and is elaborated upon where the [Citations and more info:]'s link takes you, under the second headline before the last.
Apologies if this answer is irritatingly roundabout, I just didn't want to go against what's said in the article. (&sorry for mostly copypasting this answer from my reply to someone else)
You gotta do what you gotta do to make an anime.
Welcome to the real work :D
idk, 90s americans cartoons have more FPS than any of todays anime. the results are cringe
Isn't capitalism awesome! 💀
I saw a documentary about the animation industry in the USSR some time ago; was interesting.
We can thank the enforcers of capitalism (the Sea eye aye) for that coming to an end though; the only thing that was keeping capitalism in check, but ever since that went away...
They're giving every single bit of happiness they have to us
I've been wondering for the longest time why the Isekai genre captured the zeitgeist, and this video answers that.
Chasing a dream that doesn't even feed you would make you want to leave this world for another.
More people need to be aware of the fact that animation is not easy and need to take time to make. Even if you have a whole crew working on it, you still need to be aware that they are people with lives. Pushing your workers into exhaustion will lead to an unsustainable cycle of production, which is the one thing that makes me scratch my head so much. Even if the companies behind these decisions to overwork their animators are doing it for a business strategy, eventually the whole thing will collapse and everybody loses. You are going to eventually run out of workers who work for you.
I'm not sure if you can call something they've done for 40+ years "unsustainable". Seems pretty "able to be maintained at a certain rate or level." to me.
The thing is though... As with a lot of art related jobs, people go into the work for _passion._ Newbies are too often willing to ruin themselves for art, and they go blindly into horrible industries so they can do what they love.
And when they burn out doing that the new generation of passionate artists that love art and animation have already started working.
the crash will come. its like soviet union. communism worked until it stopped working.
@@MeepChangeling
the crash will come. its like soviet union. communism worked until it stopped working.
@@MeepChangeling
@@MeepChangeling The issue is more in the culture promoting and endorsing this behavior and submission in favor of profits. Once the majority of public accept this is not the way it should be, then things'll change and it'll become more unsustainable, but the reason that a lot of these bad things stay active is because they convince people to turn a blind eye or twist into thinking it's a good thing that people are hurting so they can sit on more green paper.
As a soon to be member of this industry, this video made me tear up, great work!
Good luck going in there!
Thanks! @@HitRegBroke
@@elox3475can I ask why you still wanna work in an industry that's so messed up?
What kind of role will you have in there?
I wish you luck, to be hired in a company that has better working conditions, the one that doesn't destroy your passion, and that you find yourself enjoying doing the things you wanted to do❤
I never knew they actually worked week to week, I had always assumed they had the full season complete prior to airing episode 1. I honestly miss the simpler style anime too, they were really iconic and charming. I really appreciate this glimpse into what's going on!
I always knew they worked week to week but I was always stumped by it like "is it not better to make the episodes before hand? So many cartoons in the west dies the same thing? Heck even tv shows too"
I always loved Pokemon season 1 and old Inuyasha.
Wow I can’t believe you never knew that…
I also always thought they had it all done and just double checked before actually airing
There was this one anime which is about japanese animation called Shirobako. In it, it shows that while airing episode 1, they are already working on multiple episodes throughout for example they are in the middle of finishing episode 7 while starting episode 11. Something like that. I'm sure the example may be off but the structure is something like that. They worry aboht multiple things when releasing the anime week per week. The first part being the debut episode at risk of being delayed as they didn't have the right copy or something. It doesn't just focus on the animation part but also incorporating things like voice acting, sound effects, cgi, and even working with both an original anime and an adapted anime. That show may be just giving us a glimpse of just how many people are working on even just a single episode which makes you appreciate every single second of it. I suggest to give it a watch to get an idea about how it works behind the scenes
This video kept showing up in my recommendation since few days but I kept ignoring it. Today after cote ep4 ended this auto played now that I have seen it this is truly one of my favourite the editing and the use of anime visual and music is perfect. thankyou for creating this
aw thank you for the compliment
Thank you for creating a good summary of what's happening behind the anime industry. In reality, poor working conditions and corporate slavery are a phenomenon not exclusive to the anime industry; it's a "Japan" thing. Japan has the term karoshi (過労死) for reason.
I live in Japan, and I know people working in entirely different industries facing similar situations. No personal time, private time controlled by corporations, no freedom to take leave, no holidays, working more than 12 hours a day, with unpaid overtime (サービス残業)... and with not very high salaries; it's truly modern slavery.
I would say the problem isn't just within the animation industry or the Japanese working system; it runs deeper. It's about how the Japanese view work. Excessive dedication and their culture make it hard for them to distinguish between dedication and slavery. Their inability to express opinions clearly is also a problem. On top of that, they are reserved about everything.
For instance, it's considered disrespectful to leave work before your boss, even if your working hours are done. This culture is still prevalent in many workplaces in Japan.
I mean, If I know they need my skills and they are relying on me, but they started invading my personal life, significantly affecting my health, illegally stealing the time I should be spending with my family... I would slap those unreasonable timetables and say "do it yourself!" while exiting like a chad.... as everyone should.
Aw thank you for the comment
Lol that last sentence, okay bud
The rest of your comment is true though
It's not as bad as you are making it out to be. Signed, person who also lives in Japan.
@@TheNewRobotMaster sometimes everywhere, anywhere, any job, could be a shitshow in all its governance of work; having looked into how I'm okay with all the off time to do in Japan before considering the career there, of which, somewhat related to the video, not the anime, but the merchandising, so unexpected, but not too surprising, I want to even more be with their local doujinshi/interest circles I'm already in, and how close it strides along 'the dangerous dream'
@@TheNewRobotMaster You are aware that Japanese companies usually treat foreign employees better than their own people for practical reasons, aren't you?
Thankyou for making this video. The production quality was incredible. The importance of this topic is immeasurable, and the message sent through your storytelling conveyed it brilliantly.
bro how did u pay in a comment 💀
Its called superthanks below a video , you can add your comment with your donation@@liiswn
Aw thank you
Honestly I see the game industry going in the same direction. I studied game art and 3D animation, and I remember extremely vividly the first time I complained about a project I was working on being unfinished and an upcoming deadline. The response was simple, you'll need to crunch, no way around it if it means meeting your deadline. I drove myself to the point of a mental breakdown from pressure and am well familiar with what they mean with they're hands hurt. They hurt, but all you can do is lay down for a few hours and wait for them to stop hurting and only be numb, so you can keep working countless unrewarded hours just to get it done.
I started my education in that field with the mindset of wanting to follow my passions and dreams, but I left as a workaholic and just tired of working. After I stepped away for some time, I found myself reconsidering what I wanna do and really couldn't bring myself to go back to that. I'll still make videogame because I choose to, but I don't have any desire to return to those grueling expectations that you have to sacrifice any social life and most of all personal wellbeing to fullfill.
Nooo
When a hobby become work it usually stop being a hobby.
Luckily the doujin circles are still alive in Japan.
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Indie games exist and are better than AAA games, so no.
They work overtime because it's been normalized in their culture to work to death plus these people have no social life and no family to share with and they basically want to kill themselves; so this is a cultural problem that is slowly seeping into western society with the "female liberation" as its trojan horse (refer to male loneliness epidemic)
When I watch an anime like 'Your Name' or 'Chainsaw Man' with very HD graphics and buttery smooth FPS I can't help but imagine the chaos behind the scenes animating something with millions of frames in such a high quality format. Those poor animators :(
The craziest part to me is that part of the animation team for chainsaw man was also working on jujutsu kaisen as well, making both projects come out much worse than they could’ve been which is an insane thought to me with how good the both of them are already. those poor animators at mappa have been stretched thin trying to work at so many projects at once and it’s honestly heartbreaking 💔
It's so sad seeing Miyazaki bowing for his lost friend, only one who has lost a friend can understand the sadness it conveys...
Yes 😞
Someone he knew when he was very young, it hits a lot deeper when you look at it like that.
Its an extension of japanese work culture where falling unconscious do to overworking isn't seen as concern but as "good work ethic"
The Japanese work culture is toxic.
The work culture of any country that has never faced the Red Scare. Without the threat of revolution to instill terror into the minds of capitalists, what you see in Japan is the natural course of things.
@@DeletedSince.2020 I thank you for telling the truth.
so depressing seeing how even when everything else is crashing and burning around us, even art that brings us comfort is too.
if it just brought fans comfort it wouldnt be this bad . its the fans fault for crying like babies when the production quality isnt as good as other anime they have seen . they are the least "comfortable" people ive heard lol
@@myname-mz3lo The people complaining are a loud minority though. The vast majority just watch anime and go about their day after.
@@myname-mz3lo is that anime fans or tourists though?
i started watching anime early 2000s on canadian tv , and i thought the quality was great , and i still think it's great , and would still find it acceptable if that's the quality the anime of today had
but then again im also too poor to afford to buy any physical media so perhaps my opinion doesn't count here....
@@iamLI3 the person abovr you daus its the fans and you say it's the tourists lol. But companies liste' to whoever brings them more money.
@@myname-mz3lo you have no way of knowing the correlation between those who are complaining and those who buy the products and i would be willing to bet they overlap less rather than more....
Wtaf did I just watch.. the editing, the choice of soundtrack, the jokes added here and there.. very well structured! I very much enjoyed the watch! Thank you for sharing this to the world, even if it only reached a fraction of the whole anime community. Much love!
This in part informs why big production studios are looking to get AI animation up and running. Get a machine to do most of the unpaid work since workers, those who sustain modern society, need sleep, food, housing, and that's "Expensive".
It all boils mostly down to cost cutting.
It's not just that, using AI cut down the work needed for things like in between frames or background work (drawing background can be really time consuming and difficult without much incentive on certain shows). Unless the studio is as scummy as MAPPA, they are just trying to use AI to reduce workload for artist so they can polish it to UBW/Demon Slayer levels
@@nonamepasserbya6658you're saying bullshit bud. What do you mean by UBW/demon slayer polish? Also can you explain how Mappa is different from others? In fact they are one of the few studios who are actually capable of investing in their shows and making money from it And progress as a studio.
@@user-og6pb6dd5p Is English your 3rd language?
@@Mr_Mistah 2nd
1. I really wish these companies develop better and more efficient systems for their releases so everyone can at least have a few moments to breathe in their lives.
2. People need to be more patient when it comes to anime. Good animation that visually stuns the audience while still delivering on the pacing and plot takes time. If I have to wait 2 weeks instead of 1 week or so to get better anime because the workers are not on the verge of collapse, I'm all for it.
3. Massive props to those brave people in the industry speaking out about this. I can only imagine the risks such as being blacklisted they are taking in their livelihood by speaking about this toxic culture.
But this is these companies fault. People expect fast releases because these companies taught them certain release schedule. The same employees fault that they allow themselves to be used and abused. There are many different careers available. If your dream is to work in anime industry and it is more important than being treated humanly than it is only your choice.
@@korinogaroYou know that there's always another person to take the job, right? It's like a conveyer belt. One person goes another comes in. Rinse. Repeat.
sadly it's the reality everywhere, even creeping in to game development world, not exclusive to japan, game studios putting their workers to crunches and then fired them after release is the norm rn.
This might sound insane- but what if we get a couple of american billionaires.
(Elon. Bill. Maybe zuckerberg)
And have them buy anime.
Because they will try to cut corners. Which will make anime affordable. Which will end this crisis.
Given the number of hours they're quoting, I'd imagine it would be more on the order of 4 weeks (and probably much higher costs to purchase or stream, which is honestly reasonable). At the end of the day, it's legislation and enforcement, along with unionization (and laws protecting unions) that are fundamentally needed.
the ad roll at 11:27 was perfectly timed
the situation is so depressing. the things that can hopefully change the situation that i can somehow think of(i have no idea of the feasability): more work outside of tokyo, more shows like chainsaw-man with no production commitea, static studios like kyo-ani and ufotable unonanizing, the mangakas insisting on unionized studios for their work(if they have that kind of power), goverment intervion setting a higher minimum wage or penalaty+enforcment of unpaid overtime netflix and other international companies producing shows with no budget caps, 3rd world studios uninizing.
watching zom-100 is so depressing, a show about people learning to live for themself after being freed from the shackles of capitalism, made by people in slave conditions killing themself to deliver the product
All too many examples in the anime world and in the world at large 😔
Unfortunately the burden falls on the fanbase to be informed and protest about the situation, because at the heart of all such situations is a monster fueled by money.
Structural change is important, redistribution of power is important, but as long as the money keeps pouring in...
Down with capitalism
As much as there's a monster fueled by money, there are many more who simply don't care. They see a video like this and as long as they're getting what they want, they have no reason to be concerned behind every piece of shit company, behind every terrible business decision it all comes down to one thing. A people problem all of this is a people problem, it's easy to say change a company for the better, it's a lot harder to change people. Even more so if those people don't value, care, or respect you as a human being.
Just like many issues, it's the modern day tragedy.@@jnharton
@@jnharton only meaningful way to protest is to stop consuming anime so that would hit the pockets of the execs but that ain't gonna happen.
KyoAni is the exception. They're the only studio to salary all their workers and refuse inhumane practices. They gambled on esuma bunko giving them independence and it worked out well.
Interesting. Do you know where we can read more about which studios are like that?
+ sources, please
I'll just stop watching all anime except the ones from those studios.
Couldn't help but tear up at the end. Can't believe the sad truth behind so many beautiful memories of watching Anime. I hope the industry ends up treating the animators better
This video is originally something i'd watch just to fall asleep, but i find myself 27 minutes in and still incredibly invested to this video. Thank you for informing the darkest side of the media that consumes atleast 60-70% of my daily media content, and making me think about just what i should expect from every anime i watch.
Thank you for telling be about these thousands of workers, sone asking for help, and my best wishes goes to them and to you. Thank you so much for this video❤️
Aw you're welcome
I'm not crying, you're crying!
In all seriousness though, this is an incredible and well researched video. I'm honestly surprised you managed to include as much information as you did, and in a way that really resonates with the audience, in only 30 minutes. I kind of forgot this video was only 30 minutes long because I felt like I watched an hour long documentary. And I mean that in the best way. It's super important to talk about this kind of thing.
NO U
The animation studio who made Zom100 probably feel like chinese sweat shop children making "end child slavery tshirts"
Agreed. Not the only series that does this either. There are several anime that criticize “black” companies.
The problem is getting companies to admit that THEY are the targets of criticism.
the studio of zom 100 was actually created by people who left OLM. The evil slaving company in Zom 100 is called "ZLM", so its pretty obvious they are criticizing their previous employer.
Thank you for the video, this was an excellent behind-the-scenes look at why so much of the anime market is in the state that it's in. I do find the attitude of "There's no reasonable/plausible alternative to huge corporations / production committees because anime's so expensive to make and is becoming increasingly complex" very defeatist. Nobody is forcing anime to be expensive to make: Yes, there is a sizeable market for cutting-edge graphics and animation, but that is not the only market, and that market is fostered by corporations who know it's in their benefit that small entities cannot keep up with the cutting edge. Manga, as an industry, proves that anime does not have to exist solely at the cutting edge of what is economically feasible. The same is true for indie gaming, small films, etc.
Thank you
We should set up a donation for these animators that way they know their work is worth it
There is to my awareness but I forgot their YT channel
Just sounds like tipping culture for Jap animators
That’s a very good idea
@@miragebangbravern You're probably thinking of The Animator Dormitory Channel.
The problem is knowing WHO to give that money to. I imagine the only way you could get these people fair compensation (without changing government/corporate stuff) would be a non-profit or something popping up, getting subscription donations, and going around to the companies handing out money to specific people. Then the issue becomes HOW to give out the money.
This video is such a masterpiece and it's criminal that it hasn't blown up yet. This got me to really think HARD. Keep up the great work!
Awww thank you
I've known about many of these issues for few years by now since I started practicing to become an animator. The context you share while explaining the situation and how it got into what it is today is infinitely valuable and adds many layers to the problem itself. Many things are still hard to find from reputable sources and with social media misinformation becoming a wider problem due to many foreing rookies not knowing about the whole story and its context and leakers, trolls and other people just trying to gain some clout from spreading rumors or straigh up lies, I appreciate you taking the time to share the story and root causes along with other references and sources.
I appreciate you giving me a half hour of your day :)
This video was made with tremendous amount of passion and good will, but for clarity's sake... Miyazaki's quotes here are rather too heavily edited. The clip name [ Hayao Miyazaki about dreams [ENG] ] is a good point to start for what he was saying, it's taken from [The Kingdom of Dreams and Madness].
(This is by no means suggesting that Miyazaki doesn't want the industry to improve, I would personally say he's painfully wishes so as well)
the production value of this video is so insane, that its almost ironic given the subject. Subbed
The end had me tearing up. There is something so powerful about reading and hearing words from those who loved the industry so deeply
As a lifetime anime fan, I must say that with vicious cycle like this, if someday or even tomorrow the entire anime industry collapses with no new episodes or series coming, so be it.
There must be ways to change the industry.
Whether it's increasing anime production times before airing, or shortening anime lengths, or reducing detail in new shows, or reducing the number of new shows, or adding legal requirements to minimise work hours and set pay minimums that can get executives in trouble, or changing the profit formula away from just merch to other methods, or a million other changes.
All that's clear is things can't keep escalating as they are now.
Is there incentive to change though? Why would the government, or corporations do anything when their positions and profits are unthreatened?
Even our welfare, human rights, and democratization of society can be correlated with the rise of socialism. Think, why is it that after 2000 years of constant unrestrained exploitation, governments suddenly started giving welfare, women rights, racial equality, and other freedoms. Is history a random course of disconnected events? Or maybe communism and its threat of revolution instilled terror into the minds of capitalists all over the world, creating immense incentive for the 1st world to drown their people in concessions and welfare to placate them.
Only when the workers own and direct their own profits, can we expect permanent change.
love the editing, the storytelling was incredible, simply wonderful. I teared up at the final notes of the video. However, it would be better if the pacing can slow down a bit, sometimes i cant follow the video.
love this kind of constructive feedback - the "too much everywhere all at once" issue has been a bad habit I just can't kill. Thanks for watching and the time to write your comment :)
18:33 one of the factions that eventually spawned the Yakuza was a group of Bakuto, or gamblers
They were often hired by company bosses to gamble away the earnings of their employees, so they could get away with "paying a lot" while actually keeping most of the profits
Past employers were subtle about their manipulation tactics, which is one reason why workers didn't feel the need to unionize back then
I Love how you Refer to these Giants as $28,000,000,000 Sweatshops because of how these companies treat their workers and how they take all the money for themselves while giving measly coins to the workers
Maybe if you ran a company you'd know how to make a profit like them.
@@debeb5148 Search for as many loopholes as possible to ensure that I can pay the workers actually creating the product as minimally as possible.
@mikemasaki8193 Why do that when we already have Americans on our home soil to exploit? Do yourself a favor, don't get a buisness degree.
Tbh... I don't mind seeing the anime industry collapse. Get rid of its industrial nature, let the workers rest to de-stress, and eventually, with enough rest, considerations, and cooperation, the industry shall rebuild itself, but this time in a different way, avoiding the mistakes that made it failed in the first place. Hopefully, with this new change, people who once are passionate about anime-making will feel less pressured when crafting their work and eventually start loving their work, reminding them of the pure joy they had when watching their favorite anime that inspired them to work for that industry.
It would be kinda cathartic huh
One issue is that these aren't "mistakes." These are profitable for the corporations. Anime is still net positive, and the rich are siphoning up all the profits.
Completely restarting everything would not rid the natural course of events under capitalism. Only when the workers organize themselves, and manage the value they produce can we expect permanent change rather than having to collapse the entire industry every 50 years.
Imo, I think that there should be some sort of law saying that the animation studio workers has to be paid a certain percent of the actual anime's value
I adore how most common folk doesn't know what actually goes into creative projects, not only anime, but mostly visual creatives. Ppl eighter think it could be done in minutes and is heavly atomatic, or that it is just ,,not so hard to do,, (not even mentioning all the knowledge u have to actually have to make it good conceptually). Thanks for shedding some light into it
Thank you so much for this video. I have always kind of thought poorly of Miyazaki ever since I heard this infamous speech about how his work is "not anime" and then he proceeds to insult anime. I thought he was arrogant. Even though I love his work, I just thought he was another arrogant famous individual. But after this video I realize that he isn't trying to separate from the term but rather the whole chaotic industry that he has seen first hand. I always knew the anime industry was messed up, but this really shows how messed up it really is. I hope that one day this industry can be better. Its changed and affected so many lives. I hope that those who put their heart and soul into their creations don't need to suffer so much.
Miyazaki is definitely a complex character I want to eventually make a video on
Same. Especially after his words on Ghibli after him leaving, stating that it would just collapse. Even though it's being left to his son. But I get it now, him having seen everything in the industry, fighting his hardest but watching everything get worse. I think his words are fair now.
thank you for making this video. the vast VAST majority of anime fans have zero idea how the anime pipeline works- in fact, many of them even claim that anime animators are paid WELL (what a joke). this video was incredible necessary and I hope it gets more views than it already has.
Thanks for watching :)
I actually was in the group that thought it was a booming system. Ignorance really is bliss
I do not think I have ever heard anybody say that anime animators get well. I wonder what kind of groups you are in
@@oh-noe I thought I would never either but a couple of anime fans on twitter really are just this ignorant. I was appalled
damn the quality has gone up even more ,your editing style is just perfect i'm never bored watching your videos and if i get this kind of video you can take as much free time as you want afterwards you deserve it's also really interesting like i don't see this somewhere else
hope you'll go hitreg and stop being hitregbroke
bro video tempo is so fast like tiktok bruh why
On a similar note, this explains how massively successful shows like Yuri On Ice aren’t getting the promised sequels nor the movie that was teased for years but are constantly taking on new projects. Course it’s a whole other conversation too on why Mappa doesn’t relinquish their holding on their property so another studio or the director can figure out the next steps themselves
YoI is an anime original produced by a production committee, with Avex Pictures at the top. They hold all the power, and right now they wish to keep YoI as it is. It's not a MAPPA issue because they don't even have authority to make new iterations. They're at the bottom of the production committee. Avex is the only one that can decide if YoI will continue or not.
Keep in mind sometimes most studios don't have proper work distributions so animators also have to be illustrators, storyboarders, video editors and more which is why more animators are burnt out
Darn that's horrible
The odd few studios that have been able to provide a fair and well paying work environment also should have been mentioned.
For instance, Kyoto animation is known for 1 of the best animation studios and is currently favoured only second to Mappa in their overall popularity for their works. Some very seccessful animes the studio are known for include the mentioned anime k on and plenty of other successful tittles such as Clannad, kobayashi, Violet Evergarden and the movie Koe no Katchi (AKA the shape of voice).
For one such example: Studios like A-1 Pictures and mappa usually need around 40 to 50 people to complete just one episode. In comparison Kyoto animation only needs 6 to 8 in total. It also took just 35 workers to complete the whole second season of Kobayashi's Dragon Maid.
This is down to the fact that the studio works in an animation unit which involves a handful of workers sticking together over multiple projects. If they need to redo anything they are given enough turn around time to correct and restructure anything. Each animation unit involves a director, one to two animation supervisors, a few young animators which also have a leader and one veteren animator that acts as a glue for the whole unit.
The fact that these animators are also all there with each other and local means that everyone who is needed is there and they don't have to out source anything as everything is done independently by the same studio. The workers are also payed real salary wages, not through commision pay. The studio is also very strict about over working since their way of working doesn't require it as they approach every anime at a time instead of doing several at once. This has also resulted in the studio also being able to maintain healthy and effective work hours with animes often being completely finished usually even before beginning to air.
The studios complete independence also means that they never have to bid in order to have an anime to work on as they are fully in the driving seat with what they choose to make and when. They also sell their own merch and train young graduates with some newly qualified animating some scenes from Kyoukai no kanata (AKA Beyond the Boundary). The studio has also made well over $1 milion dollars in profit to date down to the fact that they own most of their IP and the staff having a strong level of trust in everyone's raw talent, their system and what they do. Basically, it's the perfect formula.
Kyoto Animation's work model and reputation for their quality animes and raw talent have since also gone on to inspire other anime studios to adopt their work model or very similar models of their own, as well as leading by example on how to fix the problem.
Also Kyoto Animation strives to provide good working condition and leadership roles to females
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finally, positivity
Kyoto Animation's better pay and labor condition is also very well reflected by its own production output and the minimal reliance on outsourcing its animation production process. It's one of the only few Japanese animation studios out there that don't get under the burden of Japan's production committee system by maintaining significant corporate independence. Meanwhile, many other A-list studios like A-1 and Mappa are prime examples of production committee's darlings because of how deeply incorporated they are under the feet of authority of the production committee.
Some like A-1 is also a subsidiary of a major production company Aniplex, which in turn is also a subsidiary of the Japanese corporate giant Sony and a board member of a certain undisclosed production committee in Japan (due to the secretive nature of it). What does that mean? It means that Aniplex can put unrealistic demands over their subsidary studios to work on multiple projects simultaneously in order to reap as much profits as possible. This inevitably resulted with A-1 having to depend on crunch and outsourcing their works to other studios within their reach.
@@GuyWhoLikesTheSnarkies1435 I always wondered if Mangakas have any say in choosing the animation studios they'll license their works with. AFAIK Kyoto's the exception to the industry.
The problem with unions in animation is they make thing prohibitively expensive an episode of the Simpsons costs 5 million dollars twice more expensive than the cost of one season of anime.
Good god man I don't know if I've watched something so fucking heartbreaking. I genuinely wish I could help in some way. The way animators and others are being treated are actually human rights violations. I genuinely believe the only way we'll see this change is a total collapse of the industry and it being rebuilt, hopefully by people who actually care instead of corporations. I hope it's not, but with the state of things it sounds like that's the only option.
On the bright side, when the Japanese industry collapses, similar animation industries in other countries with better labor laws will outlive it. Indie studios will rise up too, in Japan or elsewhere, but the genre will never just die.
"I genuinely wish I could help in some way"
aww you're such a hero
the anime industry is a cruel place but it's for japan to fix, against the astronomical odds, if they choose to
americans cannot keep trains on their tracks and children die on their streets in sick blood rituals. they should not have any influence in any foreign industry on any level, even if they say "well we should because it needs to be fixed (according to us 🤓)". i would never go to a 400lb doctor on an oxygen supply, even if he was just trying to help me with ear pain.
keep your white saviorism out of this business. learn about the horrors of the industry, sure, but stop trying to save people. it's patronizing, thinking you're more capable of saving the anime workers than japan is. i will never forget having to guide some american foreign exchange students around tokyo and this one american girl flashed a deepl'd message asking "大丈夫ですか？" to a japanese girl obviously making out with her boyfriend. you freaks always want to play the hero, yet your own nation is proof of your collateral damage.
When it's becoming too expensive in Japan, it will be outsourced to less developed countries. This is already happening; a lot of anime credits includes Southeast Asian countries and India.
Why are people surprised that every part of life is corrupt when they never bothered to ask if it wasn’t? Too busy fondling themselves to shiny fake cartoon women lol
@@kuritheking ??? Dude get off the internet. I guarantee half the people who watched this video already knew of corruption to some extent (including myself), and just didn't realize how bad it was. Stop acting like you're better than others simply because you assume everything is garbage.
The healthiest thing would be for an industry collapse and unionization. Create a Japanese based streaming service for the whole world and adopt a “when it’s done, it’s done” mentality. Make the barrier of entry to post your work on the streaming service low so indie groups can get their stuff out there.
That is a great idea.
The anime version of Steam
Nah that just creates a Crunchyroll Japan and all the QC issues that come with that. The simple and unfortunate fact of the matter is that most anime aren't worth paying for, so they can only be produced by the shitty studios that can only still turn a profit by underpaying workers. Right now, hundreds of anime are produced per year. If you got rid of the exploitation, that number would drop to the twenties or thirties, with all the "filler" anime like isekais and romcoms becoming unaffordable. Not a big loss of course, since these things are rarely worth making anyway, but it's still eviscerating the diversity of the anime industry, which is one of its biggest strengths. What we'll probably see happen instead is a lot more use of AI in anime production.
@@yurisei6732 What are you trying to justify?
@@adeleinetheartist8267 What makes you think I'm trying to justify anything?
I cannot put it into words how this video made me feel. Man you are amazing, really. With a billion anime channels out here im glad i found this channel. The editing was top notch and never boring. The matter was thoroughly explained. And the last part if the video made me tear up. You got yourself a sub my man.
This video was made with tremendous amount of passion and good will, but for clarity's sake... Miyazaki's quotes here are rather too heavily edited. The clip name [ Hayao Miyazaki about dreams [ENG] ] is a good point to start for what he was saying, it's taken from [The Kingdom of Dreams and Madness].
(This is by no means suggesting that Miyazaki doesn't want the industry to improve, I would personally say he's painfully wishes so as well)
so much respect for you editing and explaining what really goes on behind the scenes of our favorite shows
Dang, I knew about the harsh working conditions of animation studios in japan but I didn't think it'd be THAT deeply rooted to something- Thank you for this wonderful Reg!
The editing and the amount of research here is impressive
I'm sure that a lot of people have already known that animators aren't treated well but it's good to know the context surrounding the situation
I genuinely teared up when you mentioned Satoshi Kon and then when it ended with Satoshi Kon,,, may that legend of a man rest in peace
I’m grad in animation but mostly a self-taught animator who moved to Japan. Back then, I was invited to work part-time for one of the most popular animation firms in Japan, and they recently finished an anime that is now considered a favorite by a lot of fans. Back to the story, I was young, naive, and stupid at the time and almost accepted the offer, not only because it had an attractive salary, but also because I felt very flattered and surprised that they invited me when there’s a lot of talented creators that have more experience than me. Fortunately, I was forced to decline the offer because I was already working at another firm with a decent salary. And then I found out that one of their animators committed sui- (yknow what j mean) , and thats how I found out that they treat their employees horrible and trash. I have no idea why no one was talking about this, and then I found out this was common in Japan. It's sad to say I was traumatized. Thank you for creating light on this problem on japan.
Wow. Clicked on this video randomly and was blown away. Makes me angry and sad for all the artists getting shafted so hard by greed. Taking advantage of people who the industry knows will keep churning out work because it is their passion until they are broken or dead. Cruel and inhumane. Very informative video. How do we help?
Unions ig idk it’s a hard thing to fix. So many industry’s go through this people have gettting exploited since the beggening of time they just hide it better now.
What’s really sad is that this is not exclusive to animation you can find sweatshops and exploitation everywhere if u look
RUclips wasn't the same without you. I am loving this new format, I can't wait for the next video!
I'm glad to have you back! You legit have the editing of a whole movie production team! Great stuff, homie. Was a blast watching thie masterpiece 🗿🤝
Thank youuu
Everyone's gonna blame corporations and capitalism, but no one is gonna blame the reason costs per episode has skyrocketed so much.
The consumer.
This video essay was beautifully and elegantly well edited. It handles a very complex topic and easily conveys how difficult and "disorganized" the industry is as a whole.
Miyazaki's eulogy made me tear up a bit. Damn.
FAX
I can enjoy the content if I'm not looking at the screen. The excessive zooming and panning of clips and visual elements is annoying, exhausting, and a waste of effort. It would even be too much for an amv.
@@HolographicThoughtsexactly that’s fucking horrible even the sound scream etc
Miyazaki's eulogy was a bit too heavily edited.
Look for a clip named [ Hayao Miyazaki about dreams [ENG] ] for starters.
(This is by no means suggesting that Miyazaki himself wouldn't approve of improving the industry, however.)
EDIT: I misunderstood what you said; you meant his eulogy to Takahata Isao. I thought you were referring to the section prior as a "eulogy to the dying anime industry" kind of thing. Very sorry