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When Does the 6000 Years End? Part 2 | Mackenzie Drebit
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- Опубликовано: 19 авг 2024
- Have you ever wondered about the Cosmic Week in prophecy? Or Ellen White’s statements on the 4,000 and 6,000-year timeline of events? Can we calculate the date of Christ’s return from her comments? In Part 2 of “When Does the 6000 Years End?” Mackenzie Drebit delves into the meaning of these comments. Discover the amazing purpose of Biblical chronology and how we can use it to prove major events in history. Find out how relevant Biblical chronology actually is and when the 6000 Years actually end! Learn the amazing date of creation! Is the 6000 Year Cosmic Week prophecy really a prophecy about the second coming of Christ or is its focus something else entirely? What did our pioneers believe about the end of the 6000 Years? Find out the mind-blowing conclusion to this amazing prophecy!
Learn how the pioneers believed that the 6000 years ended in 1844, and that they were not wrong! They only had the event wrong. Discover the exciting ending to this great prophecy - the 6000 years do not bring us to the coming of Christ. Instead they bring us to the Day of Atonement. We are living in the antitypical “day” of atonement, a very serious time, because time is no longer, while we wait for Jesus to complete His judgment. At any moment, the "day" of atonement will be over.
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Powerful ! Jesus is at the door people, I’m so thankful to have become SDA, I was born and raised southern Baptist for 30 years, but now I have the truth 👏🏻
Elon, nice to see you are following this truth. It is not fro Human but from God.
The one with power over death.
The creator of universe and all in it belongs to him.
It is time to put your money in the ministry to advance this message to others who do not understand.
I am writing a book about this 6000 years topic. Very much in details. Maybe you can sponsor my book publication.
God bless you and happy Sabbath.
He is planted by Elon
@@unathiyapi9136 😉
@@geoffreyongeri7380 brother, it's obviously not him...
@@geoffreyongeri7380 Jesus never asked money or monetary help for not reason, however, there are recorded in Luke 8:1-3, Jesus and his disciples received from those who provided for them out of their means. Ashamed in you for asking in a public media.
Mackenzie, my dear brother, l am crying right now... a few hours earlier i texted this very same conclusion as a comment. Dear brother, hallelujah for what I consider your best sermon yet, because I heard that certain sound of the trumpet in your voice! Oh praise God for allowing you to be his mouth piece!
Yes Mackenzie, i concur,"Now IS THE TIME! You said it at about 8:23am February 24, 2024 and I have heard a MOST JOYFUL SOUND!
I 've slept sporadically and I Truly NEEDED THIS SABBATH!
i am a disfellowshipped SDA, just trying to keep it real with Jesus Christ, my TRUE Best Friend. I know in whom I have believed. I can't do missionary work like I used to due to age& health, but i've become more innovative. I place TM reference on lit. dist'd. Have a most blessed Sabbath watchman.🗣️🔊🔊🔊⏰💯
The best thing i think you and Pavel Goia has said:
Stop worrying about time. What matters its helping others to Jesus and be ready. Then it wont matter when He comes because we're working on getting ready time wont matter.
If it is written, it is for our admonition. So we should pay attention to it. The Shepard and wise men from the east paid attention to time and signs. That is why they knew jusus the savior was born while the jews did not.
Time is not the only thing bit is part of what we need to understand.
1844 pioneers understood the time.
Be blessed.
Amen
@@geoffreyongeri7380
Wonderful comment Geoffrey! Thank you. 🙏
Amen
Truthfully
Thank you for the Blessings, but I was taught this as a child and I've been waiting for Him ever since. I keep telling everyone I come in contact...TODAY we are SEALED! We must continue to stay SEALED!
May we all meet in Heaven and help those who don't know the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit. ❤️✝️👑🙏🕊️
If and when we reach heaven,we will not be able to help those who did not make it their point of duty to know Him. It will be too late.
you left us with a cliff hanger in the last video lol
The Cosmic Week idea is closely related to the final sabbatical year and the final jubilee year that are to take place at the end of 6000 years of world history. Leviticus 25 ordains a Sabbath year (one in every seventh year) (Lev. 25:1-7Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)), and a jubilee year, (one in every fiftieth year) (Lev. 25:8-17Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)). In the Sabbath year, each field was to rest uncultivated every seventh year. In a jubilee year, all leased or mortgaged lands were to be returned to their original owners, and all slaves and bonded labourers were to be set free (Lev. 25:10Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)).
In the period of 6000 years of world’s history (from the fall of Adam till the return of Christ) there are 120 jubilees (120 x 50-year periods = 6000). There were 80 jubilees in the 4000 years of the Old Testament and there are 40 jubilees in the 2000-year period of the New Testament. The last of the 80 jubilees of the Old Testament period was announced by Christ at the beginning of His ministry in 27 AD (Luke 4:18-19Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)):
“The Spirit of the Lord is upon me because He has anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and recovery of sight to the blind, to set at liberty those who are oppressed; To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord.”
According to The Seventh-day Adventist Bible Commentary, “the ‘acceptable year of the Lord‘ is reminiscent of the year of jubilee, when slaves were freed, debts were cancelled, and entailed land was turned back to its original owner (Leviticus 25:10Open in Logos Bible Software (if available); 15Open in Logos Bible Software (if available),24Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)).”
Jesus started His ministry at about 30 years of age (according to the Jewish calendar) and was crucified at about 33 1/2. This corresponds to our calendar date of 27 AD. Because in 27 AD, Christ entered the last Jubilee overlapping from the Old Testament period of 4000 years (it was the 80th Jubilee of the OT and 27 AD was the 4000-year mark in time), we need to add 40 Jubilees (40 x 50-year periods = 2000 years). Therefore, the final jubilee year (at the end of 6000 years of the world’s history) should take place in the year 2027 (27 + 2000 = 2027)!
Ellen White stated that after Christ’s return, which will take place at the end of six thousand years, the next stage will be “the jubilee, when the land should rest” (Early Writings, 35). It means that the earth will rest uncultivated for thousand years while all the saved will spend the same period of time in heaven.
If the above calculation is correct, then the last sabbatical period of 7 years has already started in 2020, and if this world is going to last 6000 years, the last Sabbatical year of world history should be the year 2027. The same year is the last year of the Jubilee. It is significant that the virus responsible for the Covid-19 pandemic was first identified in Wuhan, China, in December 2019 and that the World Health Organization declared that outbreak a pandemic on 11 March 2020, thus introducing the unprecedented time of the first stage in the plan of globalization of the world.
Even if it comes to 2027 he could cut it short or no flesh would be alive....
Which church are true according to the Bible in this world? Because many churches are not true according to this scriptures, Roman's 10:1-3,2thimoty 4:3-4, 2Peter 2:1-3..
Great observation.
Kindly go read Exodus 12: 1-7
You will clearly see that when Jesus died on the cross it marked the end of 4000 years.
With that said, 2000 from 31AD puts us on 2031
Either way 2027 or 2031 Jesus is coming soon. The signs are more than clear
We are living in dispensation of
Senth church, last church
Sixth trumpet
Sixth seal
Sixth feast
Even the high priest is in the most holy place. Last apartment.
What do we expect!
Get ready get ready get ready
@@geoffreyongeri7380 But your ignore my simple question 😭
This 'times out'/'compliments' Walters Veith's episode of What's Up Prof (8) that 6,000 years ends in 2027. God also promised to cut time short in Righteousness. So hopefully Jesus will return a bit sooner than 2027, so this corrupt beyond measure, world full of suffering can END.
Amazing! Both chronologically and prophetically time ended (Revelation 10:6 KJV) in 1844. No wonder they called it the Great Awakening and thought that the cleansing of the Sanctuary meant that Christ would return to cleanse the earth.
Thank you God for your mercy and long-suffering towards us. Please Lord help us to be ready. Amen
2300 ended in 1844
@@mattluszczak8095 yes thank you
@@mattluszczak8095 everything ended in 1844
The third angel's message is not hung on time! Jesus, can come back at any time we just have to be ready everyday. Amen.
Jesus can not come just any time. The plan of salvation is very organized and chronological.
Individual Probation can close any yime though so you are right we need to be ready all the time.
God is the Lord ,He can do whatever He wants....even to change it all.... only He knows why&how&when....
Yes He can do anything any time. But He has demonstrated to us again and again that He has a plan and He acts according to Hos plan.
But this guy is preaching pure lies now 😮, there is even a count down from Eden to Christ, AD, BC is an evidence that during the time of Christ it was 4000 years why is he lying? Time of the flood was revealed, time of The first advent revealed or known, I believe even the second advent period is known but not the day and hour, only those in darkness are supposed to have no clue
The mark of the beast hasn't been enforce yet, and God will not lie. So do you believe that Christ could come in the clouds to take all His people home this week?
Praise the Lord for these sermons! I was so encouraged that I am not alone in standing on God's warnings! May He have mercy on others and wake them up...!
Walter Veith's presentation was easier to understand and made more sense to me.
Walter Veith's episode 8 of What's Up Prof, to me is more correct and beautifully presented.
I agree
link pls?
Agreed this doesn’t sound right at all , it sounds like a deception
I also agree with you. This sounds a deception. Veith was very simpler than this man.
whatever the issue im glad we are all going back to study our bibles and we are going to look at the bible chronology. i once did and ended at Abraham or Moses l don't quit remember. but l wrote it down. will have to start again and finish the chronology. the bottom line is the time is very Short Jesus is about to come signs and wonders are unfolding before our eyes. this great religious awakening is something to think about. things don't just happen by coincidence. our relationship with Jesus and the mission he has left us to do is all that is now more important that anything else. Watch and pray and work. looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith Amen
Thank you for the upload. Commentators, critics, judges, make sure you're well versed before making negative comments. Everyday we should live like Crist, whether He comes today, tomorrow, or in 1k more years. 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Who is crist?
18:49 "Misquoting Ellen White doesn't make her a false prophet, it makes us false prophets... and we can do this in the Bible as well." - This is so very true! Thanks for sharing this.
What a blessing Pastor . .Thank God for exposing this topic. . . We are enlightened. .This way of enterpretation can by apply also in the study of the Godhead because many believe that the Holy Spirit is defferent person/being other than Christ. . .But by comparing Scripture to Scripture reveals that it is not so. . .We have ample evedince from SOP that the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Christ being his omnipresence. May God blessed you as you discover more truths out from His Word. .
As we say here in Quebec, merci beaucoup, thank you so much for explaining this to us. God bless you for being a faithful servant. Continue to listen to the voice of God and may you be led into His righteousness.
I can only agree with brother Mackenzie if he implies that Christ could come sooner than 2027 or 2031. Otherwise I'm hundred percent supportive of Walter Veith, reasoning because in the end I don't have anything to lose if Christ doesn't come by that times. But honestly with the things happening currently, I believe Christ is "even at the door" But we have huge work to do, to preach against the false sabbath.
Our work is not "to preach against the false Sabbath." If that's how you summarize the mission of the Seventh-day Adventist church, then you're in for another great disappointment.
@@TheDemsk Our work is to be about our Father's business in all that entails. We have not been left to speculate.
The God-given mission of the Seventh-day Adventist church is to preach the three angels messages. They are complete and lacking in nothing.
The God-given mission of the Seventh-day Adventist church in the closing events is to proclaim the third angel's message. The loud cry of that message is the work of the latter rain, and it is ultimately a warning against accepting the false sabbath.
Those who see no urgency in that message now will not be used for the work. So yeah, "we have huge work to do, to preach against the false sabbath."
As I listened to this sermon three times, my mind was troubled. So I read SDABC vol 7. pg 971. The context was the 2300 days in the book of Daniel. This is the longest reckoning of time. Not 6000 years. Hold true to the Pillars of Our Faith. We will be tested and asked to give an answer for our faith. Please pray for this young man.
Praise the Lord our God of Israel....From Malta
Amen
NO GOD OF MALTA ??
when do you come back to 🇮🇳
“The great controversy between Christ and Satan, that has been carried forward for NEARLY six thousand years, is soon to close;…”- {DD 5.1}
NEARLY would mean it (the 6,000 years) has NOT closed yet. She even states here it is SOON to close (hasn’t happened yet).
Agreed. Satan is only given 6k years on this earth to work his woe. We don't know the exact year Jesus is coming back. But we know it's very soon!
Your quote is Another reason to understand Ellen white is not setting a time prophecy.
And she is right about all her quotes. “For 6000 years”, “more than 6000 years”, and “nearly 6000 years”. Which is it ? It’s all of the above!
Why? Because the 6000 years ended prophetically in 1844 and then we entered the DAY of atonement. It’s still prophetically Oct 22, 1844. When Jesus comes out of the sanctuary it will be the NEXT day - or prophetically Oct 23, 1844.
So the 6000 years chronologically ended in 1844.
It’s actually more than 6000 years because we are already in 2024.
And it’s nearly 6000 years because it’s the last day of the 6000 years prophetically. Any minute Jesus is going to step out of the Most Holy Place and throw down His censor and come to take His people home.
A week after the day of atonement they celebrated the feast of tabernacles. That week represents the week we travel to heaven.
Therefore she is not a false prophet by saying it 3 different ways. She actually is telling the truth in each case.
Nice presentation, however I would be more inclined to agree with Walter Veith on the matter.
Great. It will sound much better if you personally understand the matter. Walter veith was neither here or there on 27 AD or 31AD.
He did a great presentation but go read Exodus 12:1-7
It will prove to you 31 AD marked the ens of 4000 Years.
looking forward to part 2
7g
It was part 2
@@Greg-ze3oc that comment was posted before this video dropped
Oh wow. This is a very controversial subject! I'm going back to the first video because I can't wait to see how you cover it.
Brother Mackenzie, you obviously are trying to pick on Walter Veith. You may have some points, but be carful not to create a sense of false security saying "My Lord delayeth his coming;" and some will be found unprepared because of it. Instead of blowing the trumpet you are trying to silence the watchman. I would like to pick on you a bit also. Let's see some slides here: 10:15min - literal year of 6000 year would be 2027 not 1872. 15:20 " ...for more that 6000 years..." refers to future - read the first post of the slide "The day of Christ's coming...". (future perfect tense). 31:40 - you said "..6000 years is prophetic time" - there is no 6000 years prophesy.
When walter talked about it at the time the dooms day clock had the same year....if you just look at the state of the world it fits pretty good.....
Is the longest time prophecy the 2300, the 2520 or the 6000 years prophecy? I believe, the 2300.
10:15min - EGW SAID it in 1872 - she said FOR 6000 years, so he's saying she said it in 1872, its not math, its when she said it. that's what he's pointing out... 15:20 - Yes Jesus has not come, its referring to the future. and its MORE than 6000 years. ... exactly as He said it and fo 31:40 - The pioneers - of which EGW was one; said that the 6000 years WAS a prophecy, they listed it in their midnight cry document - of which EGW said that those who do not have/follow the Midnight cry ARE going to FALL off the path. and that it is the light from behind. In fact the 6000 year time was point number 1. (called the True Midnight cry by SS Snow) Please go read it its super interesting
Bother Mackenzie isn't creating false security as you said "my Lord delayeth" Hes saying TIMES UP; and it has bean since OCT 1844 - we are literally living in borrowed time, Jesus could come At any moment, the Mrs White says that the EVENTS at the end will be rapid ones. In other words Get ready because there isn't going to be much time left. Those rapid events could start at any moment- as we can see in the world being in the state we are in. Don't wait till 2027 or 2031 or 2026, or 2030, or 2033 of which I've all heard before be ready now. Time is up, we are looking for events; (and we have to know which events) and they will be rapid.
@@victorshikuku4355 EGW had a vision - where she saw ppl on a path - behind them was a light which shone on that path and it was the "midnight cry" so that they wouldn't stumble and fall off the path - ie without it we fall off the path. So what is the Midnight cry? it was given by a man call Samuel S Snow (SS snow) at a campmeeting Aug 22 1844 which he later wrote it down for people It is called the True Midnight cry by SS snow
In that document point #1 was the 6000 year prophecy. it also lists 2300 and 2520
Miller also came to the 6000 years before all the other prophecies I believe, and he taught that the longest reconning (6000 years - which we know because we can look up what he taught) was coming to a close, as well as the 2300 days - something that EGW says.
EGW also says that we have to go back to what was taught in 1842-1844 because that is our foundation
and people have been leaving it and trying to change it (now to the point where its unrecognizable)
I’m definitely in agreement with Walter on this one…
There are some issues in this video that need addressing.
First off, Mackenzie is using the William Miller chronology.
However, he is also adding the date of creation as being October the 23rd. This is not in William Miller’s chronology and Mackenzie gives no explanation as to how he got to this date.
MacKenzie may be getting this creation date (the date but not the year) from Ussher's Chronology. James Ussher was a 17th-century Archbishop in Ireland. Ussher calculated that creation occurred on October 23, 4004 BC.
He assumed creation must be in autumn as the Jewish new year is in autumn. Then he also assumed that the autumnal equinox (the day when the length of the day and length of the night is equal) would be the most likely date.
The autumnal equinox in 4004 BC was Sunday the 23rd of October.
I am not convinced however that we have the direction from the Bible to use this logic to determine that creation was on October the 23rd.
Multiple dates in the Miller chronology are very difficult to find evidence for. For example the date of Nebuchadnezzar’s seige of Jerusalem is off by at least a year compared to historical sources (he states 596 BC but I can only find evidence for 597 BC). I am not saying Millar was wrong, but MacKenzie needs to state where the evidence for the date he is using comes from instead of just quoting Miller’s date.
Furthermore, the divine week uses a thousand years for a day. He is saying this leads to 1844 as being the end of the divine week’s Friday. Then he is saying that 1844 marks the beginning of a type of “day of atonement”. It is correct we are in a day of atonement because we know from 1844 the sanctuary is being cleansed and the cleansing of the sanctuary occurred on the day of atonement. However, to say that the divine week points to 1844 means taking a thousand years to mean a day. We are then, in the same prophetic calculation, changing the meaning of a day to say that from 1844 until the lords day is also a type of a day. To have two separate prophetic meanings of a day in the same prophetic calculation appears troubling.
I may be wrong, there may be ways to resolve the concerns I have written above, however I think there is a great deal that needs discussing to come to a conclusion.
Totally agree!!! This presentation has SERIOUS issues. The period from the Exodus to Solomon is way too long which is largely what causes the 6000 years to end way too early. The Bible says there is 476 years from the Exodus to Solomon. "And it came to pass in the four hundred and eightieth year after the children of Israel were come out of the land of Egypt, in the fourth year of Solomon's reign over Israel, in the month Zif, which is the second month, that he began to build the house of the Lord." 1 Ki. 6:1. And yet, in this presentation, Mackenzie shows at 24:56 that there are 2514 years at Wilderness. Then at 25:04 Mackenzie shows that there are 3131 years at Solomon. Taking the difference from 2514 to 3131 years, Mackenzie would have us believe that 617 years have elapsed from the Exodus to the reign of Solomon when the Bible clearly testifies in 1 Ki. 6:1 that only 476 years exist from the Exodus to Solomon's reign. Not to mention that additionally, Mackenzie omits to mention as in the days of Noah, there were given 120 years for the Spirit to strive with man, so for the entire fallen history of man there are given 120 50-year Jubilee cycles which make up the 6000 years which begin on the day of Atonement at the Fall of Man, not at the Creation. There is about 59 years from the Creation until the Fall. When the 6000 years of God's work on behalf of sinful mankind is completed, then should begin the 1000-year Millennium spoken of in Revelation 20.
@@thegreatcontroversychannel1611 I agree there are many flaws in this presentation that have to be broken down one by one. The millinium begins the last 1000 years. We can't be 180 years in that already. For me this whole message is warped.
Drebit suggests we check his calculations out. I have, multiple times, and compared them to the best scholarship in the field. He is simply way off on his chronology. He is not taking into account the proper calculations for the reigns of the kings, the period of the judges, and the correct calculations of the dates of the Captivity. We may be off on Creations date by a couple years, but not by 150 plus or minus. In my option we would be more accurate to suggest the Fall of Adam was 4000 years before Christ's baptism and wilderness temptations than trying to figure from Creation. He is right, however, in that we should be careful of predicting Christ's return based on an understanding of EGW's statements as being precise instead of generalizations. The end is here, but there are unfulfilled signs that will give us a more accurate idea of Christ's return than the Week of Time theory.
Things are happening and its extremely clear
Amazing Discovery! Amen! Let the LOUD CRY SWELL! God bless in Christ Jesus by the power of the Holy Ghost. Amen.
This makes incredible sense. I like adding 4000 + 2000 etc, but it seems to be just too easy for such a mysterious date as His becoming coming. Anyone can add that up, not just the elect. This presentation is the first on this subject that actually resonates with me. Thank you for all the effort and prayer that went into it. I’m sure you will face much criticism, but you already know that. Thank you for presenting this.
I'm borned in October 23...☺ I'll love my birthday even more now.
Truly blessed by the presentation! Thank you AD 😊
😮 Please explain how did you get Creation on Oct. 23 rd? And, what's the reference for 596 B.C. as the year Nebuchadnezzar 1st. siege of Jerusalem? Some sources mention around 597 B.C.
It would be interesting to know, he is very confusing with no reference, he is sounding like Desmond Ford
597
Be blessed brother.All my doubts have been cleared.God bless you and the entire AD team
Thank you for making this video, Mr Drebit. We need to combat fanaticism as best as we can; and with the Bible that we have, and the writings of Ellen White that we have, I think you have done your best.
However, there are a number of errors in the Hebrew chronology which must be corrected. And when we make these corrections from several other Old Testament source texts, we have to add around 1400 years to our standard chronology, which then makes the world close to 7400 years old, not 6000 years old.
This is an astonishing study. In the second century A.D., the Jewish Rabbis altered the Biblical chronology in the Hebrew texts of Genesis 5 and 11. Our version of these chronologies today are missing nearly 1400 years!
Firstly, to briefly introduce the other source texts. We have:
1. The Septuagint (the Greek Old Testament translated in the third century BC and used by the early Christian Church)
2. The writings of the first century historian, Flavius Josephus, who translated the Hebrew scriptures in the temple at Jerusalem.
3. The Samaritan Pentateuch
4. Liber Antiquitatum Biblicarum (LAB): A Hebrew account of the Biblical history from Adam to King Saul, translated into Greek, and then again into Latin, where only the Latin text remains today.
We need to make some corrections to the Hebrew texts of Genesis 5 and 11! Where the Hebrew says that Adam lived 130 years and begat Seth, the Septuagint reads 230 years. Josephus also says 230 years. And that after Seth was born, Adam lived 700 years and then died at 930 (whereas our standard Hebrew text says that Adam lived for 800 additional years and died at 930). Now when we read LAB, it states that Adam lived for 700 additional years after Seth was born. In other words, Adam’s begetting age has been reduced by 100 years in the Hebrew. Likewise, we need to correct the ages of Seth, Enos, Cainan, Mahalalel, and Enoch. In total, 600 years have been removed from Genesis 5.
In like manner, in Genesis 11, our Hebrew text says that Arphaxad lived 35 years and begot Shelah. However, the Septuagint says 135 years. Josephus says 135 years. The Samaritan Pentateuch says 135 years. And so we need to correct every generation from Arphaxad to Serug, and also add 600 years to Genesis 11. Make that 650 years, because there are 50 years missing from Nahor’s age. And when we include Cainan in Genesis 11 (LXX Genesis 10:24; 11:12, 13; Luke 3:36), we must add an extra 130 years.
Based on these findings, I believe the world is about 7400 years old. If we correct the Hebrew text from the Septuagint, we have to add 1386 years to our standard chronology. This turns 6000 years into around 7400 years.
Furthermore, Josephus wrote that the Jewish books of the Old Testament contain 5000 years of history. The last book of the Old Testament is Malachi, which scholars date to around 430 BC. According to Josephus, we must therefore have 5000 years before 430 BC, which gives us a creation date of 5430 BC and therefore an age of the earth of around 7450 years.
The world is therefore about 1400 or 1450 years older than we have assumed on the basis of the falsified Hebrew text! At the moment I haven’t made any videos on this. However, Nathan Hoffman’s video on RUclips, titled “Were the Pyramids Built Before the Flood?” does a fairly good job of presenting this subject.
I challenge you to investigate this matter for yourself! The world is close to 7400 years old! The Rabbis altered the scriptures to disprove Jesus being the Messiah! (And it’s not just the chronology, they also removed countless prophecies about Jesus, most of which are still in the Septuagint, and some of which are quoted in the New Testament. As an example see Hebrews 10:5 with Psalm 40:6. The prophecy reading “a body You have prepared for Me” has been eradicated from the text; yet the Septuagint correctly preserved the prophecy. This is just one example, but I have found at least forty such examples.)
Thank you Pastor praise the Lord 🙏
This was a most eye-opening message indeed.
Hello. I believe we're between the 6th & 7th Seal. Powerful prayer🙏🏽
I really enjoyed his last prayer! Yes let’s get back to the truths that God established at the beginning of His movement in 1844. That movement which was not trinitarian and exposed the pagan trinity doctrine that we sda’s today have now began to worship.
I was truly blessed, especially the way how it all came together at the end. ❤️ 🙏🏿
That was awesome and very clear 😢our Precious Jesus is soo ready to come we are sleeping,wake us up Dear Lord
I found this video both astounding and frustrating. In 60+ years as a baptized SDA, I never heard that the Millerites taught 6000 years ended in 1844. Truly William Miller's dream about the "Dirt Brush"(recorded in Early Writings) has come true. Truly all the "jewels of Truth" he discovered have thrown in the rubbish. Just a quick glance through the comments shows that there are literally dozens of theories about the 6000 years.
I did some searching but couldn't find the chronology that Pastor Drebit refers to that puts creation in 4157 BC
I find it very compelling and in alignment with our teachings on the Day of Atonement, but won't repeat it without clarifying the chronology issue.
Setting even approximate dates for Christ's return never has produced good fruit.
It doesn’t make sense at all , who is this guy anyway?
What does he say to quotations that say almost 6000 years after sin, how does he know how long after creation did Adam sin?
@@unathiyapi9136 We can know Sin entered the world about 59 years after Creation with help from the Jubilee cycle.
6000 was their frame of reference, but thought that they could shorten the times, if enough people awakened to the ISSUES in Isaiah 24 and that anti semitism is demonstrated as anti God by the 321 decree of Constantine on the month of Adar date for Moses life epitaph dates and Hamans death decree. The false peace has now been breeched by the ' treacherous dealers' against vulnerable body temples and the relentless pan theism of Gaia.
When we study Bible, we have to study the Bible alone!
No other source should be added because it wouldn't be the Bible study any more.
We can believe in any prophecy or to any prophet, but if the Bible doesn't mention them explicitly, they should be put aside of your studying.
That's what the common sense tells us.
Great message
If this guy is correct, then we only have the National Sunday law as our next waymark to Christ's 2nd Coming. But I have to admit, it's disappointing. I still believe 2020 -2030 is the last decade on this cursed planet, but I guess I can't be dogmatic about it. He's right about one thing, we need to stop arguing about the dates and just fulfill our commission and get the three angels messages out to the world.
The guy is guessing perverting the SOP, saying 4000 is just figure of speech, therefore 1000 years in heaven is also a figure of speech this guy is preaching heresy, 6 days you shall do all work but the 7th day is the sabbath of the Lord, if 6000 years ended in 1844 we are inside the 1000 years in heaven, what a lie a day is like a thousand in heaven the Bible says, the 7the day is the sabbath no more work for our salvation
I think everyone would love Jesus to come before 2030.
The point is He can come anytime. We are in the day of atonement and the day us almost over. We need to be ready now
Happy Sabbath ❤ ❤
We are clearly told we don’t know day or hour. But, we should read the signs it is near.
So I think the cosmic week is not setting exact date. But showing the correlation of 7’s.
7th day sabbath rest
7th millennium of rest.
It doesn’t say that. But it seems relatable. But without date.
AMEN🙏✝️❤good morning from Alaska
Amen and Amen!
"In AD 31, three and a half years after His baptism. our Lord was crucified. With the great sacrifice offered upon Calvary, ended that system of offerings which for four thousand years had pointed forward to the Lamb of God. " -Great Controversy pg 327-328. This quote is part of Ellen White's explanation of Daniel 9:27, where she Specifically gives the date AD 31.
Doesn’t make sense what he said because then the 4th day 4k years would have ended in 153 BC and White would have said in that quote “for 5 thousand years”. Jesus rose on the third day super early in the morning but we say 3rd day and not 2nd day because it was only the beginning part of the 3rd day.
True, that is specific.
It also align with Exodus 12:1-7
No doubt that God's plan is very organized.
I wonder why this quote that applies to Daniel 9:27 is not presented in this presentation nor Walter Veith’s video on the end of time. If we calculate 4000years from 31AD we come to 3970-3971 BC you must subtract 1 year when crossing to 1AD. Then add 33 1/2
The period that Christ lived as the second Adam when Adam must have sinned and needed a sacrifice to atone for their sin it comes to 4004 BC the beginning of creation. This I confirmed by EGW stamen hat Christ took man’s nature after the race had wonder for 4000 years. He was born 4BC. Nearly two thousand years ago, a voice of mysterious import was heard in heaven, from the throne of God, ‘Lo, I come.’ ‘Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body has thou prepared me.... Lo, I come (in the volume of the Book it is written of Me,) to do Thy will O God.’ Hebrews 10:5-7. In these words is announced the fulfillment of the purpose that had been hidden from eternal ages. Christ was about to visit our world, and to become incarnate... In the eyes of the world He possessed no beauty that they should desire Him; yet He was the incarnate. CCh 30.3
Jesus was just about to yield up his life to bring life and immortality to light. Christ, amid his sufferings, and being daily rejected of men, looks down the lines two thousand years to his church which would be in existence in the last days, before the close of this earth's history. 3SM 18.2 from the death of Christ to the end there would be 2000 yrs. Hosea 6:2 After two days will he revive us: In the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his side. 2 days = 2000 years. The Good Samaritan parable he leaves the I’ll man in the Inn and comes back after 2 days. In Matt. 17:1,2 After six days Jesus took with him Peter, James and John the brother of James, and led them up a high mountain by themselves. 2 There he was transfigured before them. His face shone like the sun, and his clothes became as white as the light. 3 Just then there appeared before them Moses and Elijah, talking with Jesus. This is a mini picture of the second coming Elijah representing those who are alive and Moses those who are resurrected. As far as 2 Pet. 3:8,9 But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.’ This is fix time that God has given like the 7 day week of creation. God is not going to shorten the 6000 years. What will be short is the period of the latter rain to finish His work in righteousness. Satan knows when the 6000 years will end that’s why he has agenda 2030. The four thousand day in the Bible is found in Ex. 12:3-6 3 Speak to all the congregation of Israel, saying: ‘On the tenth of this month every man shall take for himself a lamb, according to the house of his father, a lamb for a household. 4 And if the household is too small for the lamb, let him and his neighbor next to his house take it according to the number of the persons; according to each man’s need you shall make your count for the lamb. 5 Your lamb shall be without[a] blemish, a male [b]of the first year. You may take it from the sheep or from the goats. 6 Now you shall keep it until the fourteenth day of the same month. Then the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel shall kill it at twilight.
Brilliant! Jesus is waiting on us now 🙏
the 70 yrs of captivity to the kings of Babylon began in yr 3554, 3561 was the 8th yr of Nebuchadnezzar and the first yr of Ezekiel and Jehoiachin's captivity.
3554 - 606 BC - 1st yr of Nebuchadnezzar
3555 - 605 BC
3556 - 604 BC
3557 - 603 BC
3558 - 602 BC
3559 - 601 BC
3560 - 600 BC
3561 - 599 BC 8th yr of Nebuchadnezzar
TOTAL CONFUSION to take general statements of 4,000 or 6,000 years and apply them to 1844 or 2027, and 6,000 is NOT when Christ comes. 2 Peter 3:8-10 clearly says in the context of a day as 1000 years that "God is not slack" (meaning no tarrying or delay--something is happening like an egg that is incubating and going to hatch soon) "God is not slack...the day of the Lord will come" 2Peter 3:10. "The day of the LORD" is the end-time exteniion of "the night of the LORD" when God executed judgment on Egypt as He will on the world in the end-time period of 7 years when "trumpet after trumpet shall sound" (EW also implied they will come yearly in GC 399.4
A cluster of signs in 2015 included "the day of the LORD" in Joel 2:21 & 1Thess 5:1-3, as well las the abomination sign to flee the cities of Matt 24:15. They were a 7-year warning ending in 2023, but the biblical year did not end in December, but in the spring, Exodus 12:2. What Hamas did to initiate Zechariah 14:1,2 extends to this spring when we may expect Joel 3:16 in response to Zech 14:1,2. ALSO, "the day of the LORD" is a day of darkness. Google "Dark Day"--it was May 19, 1780 but God repeated the sign when Mt St Helens erupted and wind carried its ashes over night to darken 3 NW states on May 19, 1980, the 200th anniversary! WHY? It's so important that God was also marking the Catholic Gregorian Calendar that has NO relationship between new moon and new month, but THIS YEAR, May 19 has UNIQUE significance because Christ said, you don't know the day or hour, BUT AS THE DAYS OF NOAH, and this year, May 19 is the day that Noah entered the ark (for safety and salvation) Will it be a dark day? Maybe with an EMP attack so the US power grid is down and Deputy Director of Homeland Security said it will take a year for the transformers to be rebuilt because they are specific for each site. Truckers will not be able to put fuel and bring it to cities. His studied estimate is that 90% will die (like people in Jerusalem,70AD Please find more information on my RUclips channel. Search TotalHealth8204 & click big blue T
I must have missed something. Where did you get October 23?
Amen! Thank you for this!
If you read the writings of the SDA pioneers you see that the only reason some believed that the 6000 years ended in 1844 was that they believed that both 1844 and the 6000 years were the end of the world. Once they saw that 1844 was not the end they saw that the 6000 years were in the future. After 1844 there were many prominent SDA pioneers writing about the 6000 as being in the future:
James White, J. N. Andrews, J. N. Loughborough, O.R.L Crosier, Joseph Bates, S. N. Haskell, J. H. Waggoner, W. H. Littlejohn, W. A. Spicer, Ellen White herself, an issue of the Sabbath School Quarterly of 1937, a Signs of the Times magazine of 1880 and all Bible Readings for the Home editions sold from the 1800s up to the 1990s.
In addition, Jesus will never come if He has to wait for his people. But then I believe that Jesus will come on time and at the right time as Pr. Mark Finley said in his online sermon, whether His people are ready or not.
Were the Daniel captives told 70 years captivity? Yes. If Cyrus destruction is given as Oct 15, 539 b.c., then your 596 b.c. starting point is 13 years OFF.
Walter Veith came to mind when I saw the title in Part 1.
Thanks AD for covering topics not usually preached in our churches.
God bless you Pastor!!
William Miller came to understand the 2300 days only after he understood the 2520. That is the second witness to 1844. They even put it on the 1843 and 1850 charts they used and that Ellen White said fulfilled the prophecy of Joel.
Fulfilled the prophecy of Habakkuk 2:1-4
MacKenzie what do you mean it's up to us to get ready? How does that relate to the promised shaking? I can't see the church get ready until the Sunday law comes to wake us up. And what about the straight testimony?
The Sunday law is not there to wake people up. The Sunday law is the final test of the people of God. We need to wake up NOW! The midnight cry was “the bridegroom cometh”. That woke up the sleeping virgins. We can’t wait for the Sunday law to wake us up. The shaking is happening now. This sermon is the preaching of the straight testimony and it is offending people as evidenced by the comments here. They want to make up interpretations to suit their fancy. This is how the SOP is made of none effect. We give lip service to EGW but make her say what we want to hear.
If we are waiting for the Sunday Law to be woken up we will find ourselves not ready.
How can I get the chart, I would love to go through it.
At first I thought the title of the video was the number adjustment at the camp, then I remembered it went down to 1.5m
WRONG CALCULATIONS!! Dear brothers, I'm sorry but I have to inform you that our brother Mackenzie has totally made a mistake in managing the chronologies with respect to the Gregorian calendar... in his timeline he has merged two timelines that should not be merged or added, because they are two different timelines that should be synchronized. Instead, on his timeline Mackenzie regarding the biblical chronological figure of the siege of Jerusalem used the figure 3561 from creation (taken from i do not know which chronology study), than he said that history say the siege was in 596 bC of the gregorian calendar, he add together te figures and he gets 4157 as a creation day. The problem with that is that he is mixing figures taken from different sources. Let's be clear, Sister White had the bible with Ussher's chronology with her. Therefore he cannot use on the one hand the figure of 3561 (which is not related to Ussher's chronology, because Ussher's chronology for the siege of Jerusalem synchronizes 3414 with 590 BC, and if we add them toghether... we get 4004 as the date of creation. If we instead want to refer to 598 BC (because there are various phases of the siege of Jerusalem) we get 3406 from creation. We add the two figures and we always obtain 4004... Because it is not possible to go beyond 4004 in Ussher's chronology.. very simple, because his study is a complete study of the entire biblical chronology FROM creation to the spring of 73 AD which corresponds to 4076 from creation. When we want to study the timelines, we must first clarify which chronology we are relying on. We cannot mix some figures taken from this or that web site with another chronological timeline, because they may be very different from each other and the synchrony of events is lost. In fact, sister white did not have the 3561 that Mackenzie mentions as a chronological reference for the siege of Jerusalem, but the figures that I have just reported. There are chronologies that differ by a few years, to twenty or hundred years because of the historical events knowledge or different biblical manuscripts adopted, or calendar computation. The most reliable are that of Kepler, Newton or Scalinger with Ussher at the top. Then everyone chooses the one he thinks is the best.. but we must be clear on which one we are rely on. The most reliable, complete and verifiable chronology remains Ussher's and that was the one used by Sister White. It is not possible to have Seth born before the time of creation established in the respective chronologies.. in any... This is only possible when figures from different chronologies are taken and mixed together.. This should not be done. but Mackenzie does exactly this. In Ussher's chronology the 130 years of Adam (when Seth is born) correspond to 3874 BC... Therefore... it is impossible for any chronology starting from creation to have Seth being born before creation. Impossible, unless you take figures here and there that have not been synchronized in a complete chronological study.
So Sister White's quotes are valid and refer to the generation of Jesus' life... from his birth to his death approximately 4000 years passed + 2000 we arrive at 1997 AD using Ussher chronology. But the redemption plan does not begin at creation but from Adam's sin, therefore we must add to 1997 the years that Adam had when he sinned... if we want to know when the 6000 years expire FROM SIN... not from creation... This data we can't know exactly but we can get very close.. I invite you to see the tables in my video where you will understand everything.. the video is in Italian.. look for a translator or use the subtitle translation and you will see things clearly. God bless you Watch this video to see how to manage the chronology line with the Gregorian Calendar here: ruclips.net/video/erut7x9pqDo/видео.html
Where am I going to find an Italian translator lol 😮
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So I clicked auto-translate in the settings of the video and chose English and it worked. So around 2030/31. I can see that. Good catch with the temple representing death of Christ up to 1844 then second coming
@@luisarroyo9285 i Will certifie the subtitles so there Will be no mistake.. please help sharing the message and informing people about this big chronological mistake
Excellent explanation thank you
Please tell me, since I cannot understand, when, based on the preaching of this speaker, the first four thousand years will end? Thank you very much for your reply!
Hey sister, here is a 2 part presentation by Walter Veith about the 6000 years, it will make much more sense to you. God bless
part 1:
ruclips.net/video/v6h4H1DHQzc/видео.htmlfeature=shared
Part 2:
ruclips.net/video/qdfHzjGmPHo/видео.htmlfeature=shared
Tou can't exactly point out, based on sources he cites. Can be either 4bc when Christ was born or 27AD when christ was baptised.. and i think no one knows exactly when 4000 yrs began.. we can only estimate.. which is good, it helps avoid setting time for 2nd coming of Christ
Wow! Thank you for this great message!
Greatly enjoyed the biblical chronology. Very interesting regarding 6000yrs and 1844. The numbers certainly add up. As for the EGW statements regarding 4000 & 6000yrs, the signs of the times, especially the acceleration of calls for Sunday rest in the USA, show the final crisis is at the door.
No man knows the day nor the hour of His return, so even if you extrapolate to 2027 or 2031, any confidence you place in such dates comes at the expense of your daily preparation for the coming crisis. If we can't see the signs of the times such year predictions will not move us either. Also we know, "except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved" (Matt 24:22) If you're holding on to 2027 or 2031 then you will be caught out by the rapidity of the final events and the shortening of that time frame..... thanks Mackenzie for the refocus on our Laodicean condition and our great need of revival. Certainly God has been waiting for us but, "He will not always strive with us: neither will he keep his anger for ever. He hath not dealt with us after our sins; nor rewarded us according to our iniquities. Ps 103:9,10
When the soon coming NSL occurs in the US, judgement will begin with the house of God and only by Christ empowered faithfulness will we stand and be fitted for the Loud cry message through the Latter rain.
Gracious Lord and Father, forgive us, your people, for our sins against you, indeed blot out our sins that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord. Amen🙏
Walter Veith's study makes sense in my opinion. I have watched and studied this video of Mckenzie taking notes and everyhing he presented
against Walter's sermon were reputed even by my understanding and to be sure, I listened to part 1 and 2 of Walter Veith's sermon "IsThis The End".
For a group of people who give great importance to being in the "anti'typical" Day ofAtonement, I am continually shocked at the hatred in our church for keeping God's festivals today. If you think God is coming on the Day of Atonement, why are you not thinking it could be the actual Day of Atonement, as this guy even said--- or expect God to come on October 23? We should be keeping the festivals now, today, so we know what day will be the real Day of Atonement in the year Jesus actually does come.
Another point that should be mentioned is that the Bible has several millennial historical markers in it that no one ever seems to recognize. Scripture also states that a day is as a thousand years and a thousand years as a day relative to God's estimation and experience. In addition, many notable Bible teachers and preachers have espoused that Christ would return at the end of 6,000 years of sin. This goes back to early Jewish times BC and all through the ages up to our modern day. This notion has never been forgotten, though at times in human history, belief in God and HIs word was very unpopular. At the same time, God has often put his hand over the light of prophetic knowledge and times in order to test the faith of His people.
How can God be waiting for His people when you see statements like these "But like the stars in the vast circuit of their appointed path, God's purposes know no haste and no delay. Through the symbols of the great darkness and the smoking furnace, God had revealed to Abraham the bondage of Israel in Egypt, and had declared that the time of their sojourning should be four hundred years. “Afterward,” He said, “shall they come out with great substance.” Against that word, all the power of Pharaoh's proud empire battled in vain. On “the selfsame day” appointed in the divine promise, “it came to pass, that all the hosts of the Lord went out from the land of Egypt.” So in heaven's council the hour for the coming of Christ had been determined".
He is twisting the writing of Ellen White here: Jesus took Adams nature but she wasn’t referring to Jesus birth date here but rather to the fact that He had Adam nature when confronting Satan in the wilderness! When Jesus faced Satan in the wilderness she mentioned the date 4000 years since Adam sinned!
Next point he makes is that the quote says more than 4000 years:
When Satan deceived the angels to the time satan tempted Jesus in the wilderness is more than 4000 years. So again he is not understanding the context and is making a wrong assumption
Next quote is not referring to a date (4000 years) when satan was expelled from haven to the time when tempting Jesus! It states a general statement of the facts that Jesus had no controversy with satan and that satan was perfecting his skills for 4000 years. Ellen White chooses to point the period of 4000 years as the time when satan was perfecting his skill that took place on this earth primarily and not in heaven
We are not of that class who define the exact period of time that shall elapse before the coming of Jesus the second time with power and great glory. Some have set a time, and when that has passed, their presumptuous spirits have not accepted rebuke, but they have set another and another time. But many successive failures have stamped them as false prophets.-Fundamentals of Christian Education, 335 (1895).
Hey McKenzie, I hope you'll look at the objections posted in the comments to your chronology. Almost all who have looked at it carefully agree that Ussher's creation date is within 10 years of the actual.
The fall could be referencing satans fall and not Adam’s fall. Obviously his came first and that would be more than 6,000 years.
But what proof do we have of the time between Satan’s fall and adams fall? Could have happened the same week… same month…same year…
@@gfritz88there was a process of expulsion that could not have happened in one week
@@unathiyapi9136 whiteout biblical proof it would be but a human guess…
I wonder where the years between Terahs death / Start of Abrams journey towards the promised land and Israels 430 years in Egypt disappeared. Isak was born on the road and he was quite old at the birth of Jacob who again was quite old before he was brought to Egypt that would probably mark the start of the 430 years of Israel in Egypt.
I enjoyed part 1 and Oart 2
Werther considering this truth technically or spiritually - the conclusion is the same - Jesus wants to come "yesterday" (as the expression goes), but His children are delaying His return. In addition, they refuse to give the 2nd Angel's message because many are in agreement with the Evangelicals - "mixing" church & state - - no they would never admit it, but in essence that's exactly what they are doing.
Make these videos downloadable pls. Not all of us have constant internet
DANIEL 12
The typical dates assigned by Adventist interpreters to the two long prophetic time periods (1290 and 1335 years) found in Daniel 12:11-12Open in Logos Bible Software (if available), are 508-1798 for the 1290 days/years and 508-1843 for the 1335-day/year period.
However, these dates don’t seem to be very convincing because Daniel 12 is an epilogue for the entire book of Daniel and clearly refers to the end time, resurrection, and second advent. Therefore these two last prophetic periods should be linked with the final events. We can see this idea in Daniel 12 in the specific words used there. Expressions such as “time of trouble” (the final persecution of God’s people), “your people shall be delivered”, “those who sleep shall awake”, and “seal the book until the time of the end” clearly tell us that this chapter goes beyond the year 1843 reaching the very end-time events and the second advent. According to Strong’s concordance, the word “end” used here refers to extremity, border, final, and edge. Therefore, the time periods found in Daniel 12:11-12Open in Logos Bible Software (if available) should refer to the end of the world’s history and not merely the year 1843. In addition, Daniel was already given the explanation related to the years 1798 and 1844 in the previous chapters. He didn’t need merely a repetition of basically the same prophecy. Obviously, he wanted to know more about the end of the last horrible persecution of God’s people and about the time of Christ’s return.
Adventist interpreters suggest 508 AD as the starting date for both prophetic periods of Daniel 12:11-12Open in Logos Bible Software (if available). At that time the question of supremacy between the Catholic and Arian branches of Christianity was settled in favour of Catholicism by the subjection of the Arian tribes by Clovis, king of the Franks. Using the day-for-a-year rule (Numbers 14:34Open in Logos Bible Software (if available) and Ezekiel 4:6Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)), this makes the 1290 days (years) end in 1798 (at the same time as the 1260 years). If we start the 1335 days (years) at the same time (508 AD), it brings us to 1843, very near the year 1844 which is the end of the 2300 years of Daniel 8:14Open in Logos Bible Software (if available).
The truth, however, is that the event claimed to be the beginning of those prophetic periods doesn’t seem to match the description of the starting point because at that time the “daily sacrifice” was supposed to be “taken away”. The subjection of the Arian tribes by Clovis, king of the Franks as a starting date for Catholic supremacy doesn’t sound like a very convincing match for “abolishing the daily sacrifice”.
A much more meaningful and significant date than 508 AD for the time of abolishing the daily sacrifices is the year 597 BC. According to the SDA Bible Commentary and numerous other sources, in 597 BC Nebuchadnezzar’s invaded Jerusalem and plundered the temple (2 Kings 24). Shortly before the arrival of the Babylonian army, prophet Jeremiah removed the ark from the temple and hid it in one of the caves (2 Maccabees 2:4-8Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)). In addition, we also read that Nebuchadnezzar “carried all Jerusalem into exile”, which must have included all priests, because “only the poorest people of the land were left” (2 Kings 24:14Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)).
Since, because of Israel’s continual sin, the temple was plundered and deprived of the ark, God’s presence and priests it practically seized to exist. For this reason, the daily sacrifices came to an end.
Now, having established 597 BC as the start date for the first long prophetic period of 1290 years (Daniel 12:11Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)), we must now add to it 1290 years to set the end date of the same period. As a result, we have the year 692 AD. Can this date provide an important event that could be described as the “abomination of desolation” and fit the definition given in Daniel 12:11Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)?
Well, when we accept the year 597 BC as the starting date of 1290 years, then the closing date of 692 AD also matches the description of Daniel 12:11Open in Logos Bible Software (if available). Various reliable historical sources confirm that the year 692 AD is associated with the completion of constructing the Dome of the Rock (>, >, >). This fact perfectly fits the description provided by Daniel who defines that event as another “abomination of desolation” (Daniel 12:11Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)) because a pagan temple was built on the holy site of God’s temple.
Now, since we have dates for the first prophetic period established, let us move to Daniel 12:12Open in Logos Bible Software (if available) and deal with the second period.
Immediately after Daniel was told about 1290 days/years (Daniel 12:11Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)), another long prophetic period of 1335 days/years was added to the previous one: “Blessed is the one who waits for and reaches the end of the 1,335 days” (Daniel 12:12Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)).
Daniel was told that “blessed is the one who waits for and reaches the end of 1,335 days (years)” as if to suggest that we are to wait for another 1335 years to reach the blessed time of Christ’s return.
What date do we get when we “wait” another 1335 years from the end of the 1290-year period?
When we add 1335 years to 692 AD, it leads us to the year 2027 AD!
This interpretation is more convincing because it fits the end-time context and the scenario of Daniel 12 much better:
1) The daily sacrifice is abolished (597 BC - the Temple was plundered after the Ark of Covenant was removed from it).
2) The abomination of desolation follows 1,290 years later (the Dome of Rock build on the temple ground in 692 AD).
3) After the Abomination (692 AD) we must wait 1,335 more years for the “blessing” leading to the year 2027 and the deliverance of the persecuted Christians, the return of Christ, and the resurrection of all true believers, including Daniel).
The fact that the same year 2027 can be established on the basis of not one but three separate sources (the jubilee and sabbatical years, Daniel 12:11-12Open in Logos Bible Software (if available), and the Spirit of Prophecy), should finally wake us up and make us very happy as it increases the probability that this time the return of the Lord is very close indeed! If the year 2027 is correct and if it refers to the second advent then we can expect that the final events should start taking place very soon.
I think they are not as the ministry needs money to operate. Thus, they’re for sale on dvd. My guess.
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@@unathiyapi9136 so? you can still download the videos for free, many of their videos get demonetized
Dear young friend, very powerful to point out how important it is for God's people to have the character of Christ before He comes. But one question that even after watching your presentation twice, I do not understand or see clearly. That being the October 23 date at creation. How did you come up with that?
The Bible nor EGW speak of a 6000-year prophecy. Besides, the Masoretic chronology was drastically altered; the Greek LXX retains the correct chronology. Also, chronology cannot be determined by the years given for kings. There are co-regencies and many other variables, which is why chronologists are all across the board as to how long the kings were. The longest prophetic time is 2520. And according to true biblical chronology, Creation is 5437 BCE; so, 6000 years ended many centuries ago.
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Along with Bible prophecy, every chosen child of God will know by the Spirit of the Lord bearing witness in him that things are no longer the same. As you see the young fig leaves and know summer is nigh, so you will look at what's happening in the world and be able to discern the times. I hope I'm not wrong and this isn't wishful thinking but the second coming of Jesus is near.
How do we know that time began to tick when Adam was created? Perhaps time (towards and ending) began to grip the world after the Fall? Which means we might not really know exactly how old the world is. I read once that the orthodox Jews are not exactly sure and they are inclined to think that Adam and Eve were in the garden for around 33 years before they were thrown out. The juju occult crowd also very keen on 33 for all sorts of reasons. Would appreciate some input.
Time started on the first day of creation because the Bible tells us that on the first day God said let there be light. Gen 1:1. The week was introduce right in creation, Adam was made on day 6. Time started when this world was created and Adam and Eve kept Sabbath in Eden. I'm not sure when Adam was expelled the Bible doesn't say, but we know it's before Cain was born.
@@tabsid2822 Thank you for that but my question is about the time everything began to die.
EG White says 6000 after the fall not after creation so his references are wrong
Dear Brother , until Terah everything is correct. After that chart went wrong. At Terah 70, Abraham. At 100 of Abraham, Issac. At 60 of Issac, Jacob. At at the age of 130 Jacob e entered Egypt. So it coming around 2239. 2239+430 = 2669 to the wilderness
If you believe that Ellen White is a prophet then you know that the earth wasn't 6k years old in 1844. Because she wrote in her book the Great Controversy, which was written after 1844. That "the great controversy between Christ and Satan, that has been carried forward for nearly six thousand years, is soon to close." If it's no one's business to add 2k+4k what business do we have at guessing at adding up all the chronologeis of the begats and reigns of kings? These have lots of variables. Just to mention one variable a child's birthday could be on the last day of the last month, and his father's birthday could be on the first day of the first month. We know that a day to the God is 1k years and that the earth will keep the Sabbath. Also we know that “After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.” Christ also said destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. he spake of the temple of his body. But, know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? It's been almost two of God's days 2k years since Jesus said this and He'll be coming soon for His people! Another thing is that God created man on the sixth day and breathed into him the breath of life. I don't believe that the latter rain has fallen yet. But when it does it will be before the earth's Sabbath starts, and before the end of 6k years. Christ when with his disciples said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost. Most of us Christians are somewhat dead and haven't had our hearts recreated by the Holy Spirit to be ready for the Lords 1k years Sabbath. Also we know that the prophets spoke more for our time than theirs. If it's already been over 6k years since sin has been on earth please let me how does satan knows that he has a short time?
This was so clear ......David Gates should watch this
Nothing is clear He says there references but he never shows them
@@unathiyapi9136 Well just be ready every day
“In the midst of the week He shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease.” In A.D. 31, three and a half years after His baptism, our Lord was crucified. With the great sacrifice offered upon Calvary, ended that system of offerings which for four thousand years had pointed forward to the Lamb of God. Type had met antitype, and all the sacrifices and oblations of the ceremonial system were there to cease. { GC 327.3}
With this statement from the spirit of prophesy we see the sacrificial system was 4000 years old, and ended with the crucifixion of Jesus, an exact length of time. The sacrificial system started when Adam and Eve sinned.
From jesus death till 2031 will end the 6000yr. The day and hour we don’t know. Plus Gods calendar is 360 days in a year. His days are from evening to evening. So mans calendar is off by who knows? We just know we are entering into the Ballpark, only time can tell.
Essenes calendar was a sort of luni-solar thing at 364 days and they seemed focused on 2025. The Rev.12, 12 stars in Virgo event of Sept. 2017 gave us a 2020 year review of 3 B.C 9-11 birth. Unless you think Christs ministry began at age 30 & 75 days....oh well, theres always been a 3 day slippage( 40 times mentioned in scrip) and always overlaps of civil & religious calendars, especially since Hezekiahs turning back of the sun dial obelisk...all nations changed their calendars within 10 years of that event.
@@brewstercox4714 christ died in 31AD
His baptism /wilderness temptation was 4,000 years. Which means 27ad was the 4,000 years, and 2027 is the 6,000 years. If you believe Daniel 12 timelines, everything starts in 2024.
Shame on AD for allowing this guy to come and try to counter Walter in this forum. Son u need to go and apologize for what u have done bc we can see right thru this presentation. Shame on AD for publishing this.
everything he said is biblical what are you on about? he literally said Jesus is at the door....
What? Is Veith infallible?
Walter is not a prophet or God.
@@bradIeyyyit’s sad that you could easily be deceived, He never gave an biblical reference he showed us a chart that he very showed us on how he got the not quotation from the Bible nothing, he is another Desmond Ford
@@unathiyapi9136 Mackenzie is innocently misguided, at best.
In love and in humility, I reiterate my comment (below) on Part 1 of the presentation. Part 2 correctly discusses 4,000 and 6,000 year milestones but NOT in connection with the reign of sin OF HUMANITY - not the duration of Satan’s sin, among others, which started in heaven. The discussions in Parts 1 and 2 should have focused exclusively on the reign of humanity’s sin and its ending. And the start of that reign (which is 6,000) had been unequivocally identified in SOP as already 4,000 in 27 AD. The end of 6,000 years of sin had also been unequivocally identified as the time the earth was renewed and turned over to the saints. Unfortunately this end of 6000 years of sin mentioned in Adventist Home was NOT taken up in both parts of the presentation.
Is the “time no more” scripture which ended in 1844 days violated? I humbly submit NO simply because there is no specific or definite time identified when the 6,000 years will end - in fact SOP clearly suggests it will end immediately before the earth is renewed and turned over to the saints which is a scenario after the millennium. Please allow me to repost my first comment👇:
“Where does it say in the Bible that the millennial reign in heaven is after 6000 years? What I know from the Bible is that such millennial reign is to be ushered in by the Second Coming of Jesus Christ - not the end of 6000 years.
The 6000 years is found in the Spirit of Prophecy and is linked to the reign of sin.”👇
“After six thousand years of sin the earth was renewed. The great plan of redemption results in fully bringing back the world into God's favor. All that was lost by sin is restored. Not only man but the earth is redeemed, to be the eternal abode of the obedient. For six thousand years Satan has struggled to maintain possession of the earth. Now God's original purpose in its creation is accomplished. "The saints of the Most High shall take the kingdom, and possess the kingdom for ever, even for ever and ever.” 2 { AH 539.3}”
And the Spirit of Prophecy tells us when this 6000 years of sin began:
“On Jordan's banks the voice from heaven, attended by the manifestation from the excellent glory, proclaimed Christ to be the Son of the Eternal. Satan was to personally encounter the Head of the kingdom which he came to overthrow. If he failed he knew that he was lost. Therefore the power of his temptations was in accordance with the greatness of the object which he would lose or gain. For four thousand years, ever since the declaration was made to Adam that the seed of the woman should bruise the serpent's head, he had been planning his manner of attack. { Con 78.2 }”.
I can’t help noticing that the foregoing cited testimonies were not mentioned in the presentation. I hope they will be tackled/included in Part 2. I find this relevant because SOP guides us that -
“Regarding the testimonies, nothing is ignored; nothing is cast aside; but time and place must be considered. Nothing must be done untimely. Some matters must be withheld because some persons would make an improper use of the light given. Every jot and tittle is essential and must appear at an opportune time. In the past, the testimonies were carefully prepared before they were sent out for publication. And all matter is still carefully studied after the first writing. 15M 57.2
Selected Messages Book 1, p. 57.2”
In this connection, it bears stressing that the first above-cited testimony (i.e. turning over the restored kingdom to the saints…) is a third coming scenario after Satan (the root) the resurrected wicked (the branch) are reduced to ashes. This will lead one to conclude that the 6000 reign of sin is interrupted by the Second Coming and the Millennium. This will further lead to another conclusion that the six thousand reign of sin which is already 4000 when Jesus was baptized in 27 AD will not end in 2027 but rather after the millennium based on the first afore-cited testimony.
As it cannot be ascertained when before 2027 will the 6000 reign of sin will be interrupted, the “no date-setting testimony” is not violated.”
2027 or 2030
And I just wonder why AD of all the ministries is missing these quotes... guess these misinterpretations pushed Veith away from AD, they cannot continue in this trajectory. And by the way knowing when or around which years is the 6000 years ending does not translate to date setting
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6000 years of humanity’s sin is supposed to end 2027 reckoned from the fall. It was already 4000, as SOP declares, in 27 AD at Jesus baptism. But rather than 2027, it will end after the Third Coming when the earth is renewed/restored and turned over to the saints.
It follows that the Second Coming and the Millennium will interrupt the 6000 years which is supposed to end in 2027 - and will run again after the Millennium when Satan is loosed a little season.
Where we are in the stream of time is clearly tackled by Ptr Walter Veith in Episode 8 of What’s Up Prof.
GOD bless you.
In story of redemptipn it is stated in the section about the temptatipn in the wilderness that in AD 27 IT WAS A LITTLE OVER 4000 YEARS...ADD 2000 TO THAT AND 2027 IS A LITTLE OVER 6000.
Hello.
At 39:15, the time between Terah (Abraham's father's death) is 430 to Exodus. This was spoken to Abraham not Terah. This was spoken 99 years after Abraham's birth. Terah was 70 years old when he had Abraham. 99+70 is 169.
I have the great controversy. I don't need some one to explain to me this concept lest they deceive me.
God gives no man a message that it will be five years or ten years or twenty years before this earth's history shall close. He would not give any living being an excuse for delaying the preparation for His appearing. He would have no one say, as did the unfaithful servant, “My lord delayeth his coming,” for this leads to reckless neglect of the opportunities and privileges given to prepare us for that great day.-The Review and Herald, November 27, 1900.
I'm hopeing for 2030 for The Second Coming of Jesus Christ!!
Jesus is coming 2031....I'm looking to see you in heaven
@@chelulenaomi5635 I highly believe 2030 will diffinitely let us know how close it is for The Second Coming! Matthew Chapter 24:33 "So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors."
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Oh I hope so, so very much!!! 💜🙏💜
No time setting !
@@piper.slova3842 It's Not really time setting, it will go off of the outcome of the 2030 Agenda of the pope and John Kerry and so many others agenda. 2030 will accelerate year one of the New World Order, says John Kerry(December 5,2023).
Can I have the calculation sheets of the timeline that how do we arrived at 596 BC (Besiege of Jerusalem) ?
I’m sure this brother believes he is doing service for the kingdom, however he is missing a great number of points in the Bible that give light on this subject.
Let's review what the young pastor has shown us. All the 4,000 and 6,000 year statements are in general context. We can agree. However, they are given to give us an estimate in terms of relative time. The 4,000 years, for example, are given in terms of specific events that all revolve around the incarnate life of Christ and what He was to accomplish by that life. All those events fall within less than 40 years of each other. Was there a specific prophetic time indicated by a Bible prophet within that time range? This is what the young pastor does not investigate.
The 6,000 year general time estimates are really all over the place. It is highly general in that if you took some of her statements literally, they would have over a century of discrepancy between them. But one fact is certain, the 4,000 year estimates and 6,000 year estimates are numerically related to one another and they both suggest millennial periods of time or else why even mention those numbers at all?
The third point that should be taken is that when Mrs. White was referring to "time setting", she was speaking in the specific context of not reapplying day for year time prophecies into the future for end time events. Secondly, she was speaking specifically in another context about setting a date for the exact day and hour of the Lord's return or second coming. The young pastor is making the mistake of generalizing her statements about "time setting" as a general blanket statement about anything relating to time in the future concerning end time events spoken of in Bible prophecy. However, this she did not do as she had specific context on what she was referring to as "time setting". This also relates to statements she made about no more "prophetic time" or "definite time" as those specifically relate to day for year prophecies that had a date line. A historical investigation of her statements needs to be done to get the entire context of her statements, which very, very few notable SDAs ever do.
Therefore, studies into prophecy about future time and events are only misguided when it is being applied to re-applying time prophecies that have been fulfilled in the past that had date lines and in determining the literal day and hour of Christ's return.
Ok, I didn't find the references you mentioned but than I'm not good at searching. Bummer.
Is there a part 3?
Hi Mackenzie Very interesting video! You don’t show how you came to the specific date for creation of October 23. Is there anyway you can show us so that we can check for ourselves? Great research you did! Thank you