This route was genuinely terrifying. While Undertale's genocide run was scary and sad, seeing all your friends be killed, Deltarune makes it worse. Deltarune forces an innocent, sweet kid to kill her friend, as well as many others. Noelle was under the impression she was getting stronger, and only realized it was a lie when it was too late. This remix really interprets the fear and horror this route brings to the story.
the way we forced her to do even the smaller things. Imply we're "something else". Pushing her onto the puzzle so shes forced to freeze it. Her just questioning what we're doing is just heartbreaking, her emotions just getting all confused and scared
@@yeeyt464 I felt more bad for her than I did for the creatures I was actually killing cause of that. I just felt horrible making her do all this stuff that she's clearly not comfortable with, all for the sake of "power".
Unlike genocide in Undertale, I felt genuine remorse here. This route does a good job of making you feel bad about what you're doing. Undertale mostly has people being angry or trusting you foolishly, while Deltarune shoves what you've done in your face multiple times, and shows the creepier side of things. Don't get me wrong, undertale's genocide route is awesome but snowgrave makes me feel genuinely bad about what i'm doing.
I honestly think Deltarune does a better job at characterization than Undertale. Which really says a lot since Undertale has some awesome characters. That among other reason is why snowgrave hits so hard. Noelle is easy to get attached to, and you spend so much longer on her fall than you do on anyone in Undertale Genocide. Not to mention the underlying existence of an external controlling force is a lot more compelling when the controlled character isn't a silent protagonist. All of these factors and more combine to achieve the result you are noticing.
Believe it or not, I saw people who were frankly trying to prove to me that everything that happens to Noelle in this route ... is good for her. Because we make her more self-confident and she lacks it. She needs this in order to withstand the impending death of her father and not indulge her domineering mother. And all the kills that we do are just ... "necessary sacrifices" and all of this will be useful in the long run.
The scariest part about this is that in the normal route, if you don't unplug Berdly during the first fight against the queen, he paralyzes his arm to force the plug off. When he does this, his arm is paralyzed in the real world. The attack on Snowgrave simply reads "Fatal". This means that yes, Berdly really is dead in the completed Snowgrave route.
@@shimmienshake Not necessarily. In Undertale they introduce the concept of “fallen down”. A state a monster can enter into where they’re by all accounts dead, but don’t disintegrate. I believe Berdly is fallen down.
I actually was shocked when i figured out that there's a "Snowgrave ending". I never thought that Undertale's genocide route would look like a joke compared to this
@@zer0watch454 Oh no you're right-- I can imagine the mental and emotional state of literally every character only deteriorating from here and that both excites and terrifies me
You know, having SnowGrave route as an option means that Berdly won't play any part/won't even appear in future Deltarune chapters. He basically died here, and Toby has to count that in the future parts of the game, no matter what route we actually take here.
He could potentially. He might be a selectable party member in the future chapters, if we get a choice of party members at all. And of course, if he's not there, then you just have to select someone else instead...
Maybe,maybe not do u remember Star walker I thought he's a character that will appear anyway but when I saw some people didn't met him I knew what happened maybe it's similar case though Star walker didn't do much in the story
The route we take only changes the context of the ending, that's what I think we're supposed to get. Perhaps he ends up in the hospital no matter what? Considering he does get his arm paralyzed in the route where you don't save him, maybe someone finds him quickly enough they can send him to the hospital? I don't like what that implies for the normal route though.
there is also chance that the route will differ depending on what choices we did i mean it will take some time but it is not impossible i mean i think that berdly wont play a bigger part but still i think we will know what happened to him after that
Depression? No, this song has too much movement. Depression is best represented by a barely evolving dissonant drone. But the song does fit with the actual theme of the battle. Horror, and the disassociation from it.
@@andrasfogarasi5014 I think this song better fits the constant feeling of impending doom you get from an anxiety or panic attack while Flashback gives more of a depression feel.
Guys I realised that in the snowgrave run, in the battle vs Spamton Neo, when Noelle use her attack it says that "YOU whispered her name" (can't remember the exact sentence) but when you call for Ralsei or Susie it says that "Kris called for help"
Again showing that Kris had no choice but to sit and watch as the player force him to hurt one of their childhood friends. Ralsei and Susie call out Kris for looking "hurt" after the SnowGrave figth. And people are still fucking dumb enough to blame all of this on Kris.
@@horrorsans3676 Well..let's not forget some people like to use Chara as a scapegoat for when they play the genocide route. This is just a similar situation really. Humans don't like to admit to the atrocities they commit..who would, really?
This whole route is terrifying after considering the normal ending In this one you literally have Noelle confront her best friend and kill him in an ice Crystal Imagine how scarring that is. How genuinely terrifying that is. Seeing your best friend see you as just another enemy after being with someone then being instantly frozen by them Or being that friend…as you see your best friend and just…kill them pretty much. It’s unclear if Berdly is dead but she literally just freezes him in a fatal attack because this creepy new friend told her to. It’s haunting.
kinda mirrors chara killing flowey in the genocide route, especially after flowey showed asriel's face to garner pity. still, the fact that Berdly died trying to get noelle to snap out of it was more chilling.
@@MC_lupin that's what got me the most. The most selfless act he could ever do and it's the one that gets him killed. Makes you sick to your stomach, atleast for me...
Undertale's genocide route is an old school creepypasta compared to this. Consider the following. Genocide: and then I killed them all. The music slowed down and they were sad. Snow grave: I bent her to my whims, and by the time she had grown wise to the situation birdly was already past tense.
Killing everyone doesn't seem THAT horrifying if you just slash them and leave dust behind you. We only thought that was the most unsettling thing because we didn't know anything worse.
Gaster: No one can choose who they are in this world Player: *Decides to force Noelle to commit genocide via freezing everyone to death* Gaster: Well sh*t
@@chunkmcbeefnob717 yeah but Noelle is emotionally unstable,i think she is gonna betrayed us.😐 maybe we are gonna try to kill Susie in the end and that is gonna trigger Noelle.
Nice remix, someone should put that into an animation! Personally, my favorite quote from this whole Route was: *“Kris, it looks like another enemy. Should I freeze them?”* The way it's said in my head, makes me want to see a proper animation, comic or voice dubbing of that particular situation. And the mere fact that Toby allowed us to do this to poor Noelle makes the quote all the more deranged when said to someone like Berdly. It shows how far gone she was during that moment and it makes for pretty interesting scenarios for the third chapter. Something like this makes you wonder...if Noelle stayed like the way she was, would she be the key we needed for True Genocide?
She falls at 55 HP in this fight no matter what. LV is 55 in roman numbers. I'll let you connect the dots. . . Aside from that, I wonder if we will get to corrupt other characters, and also give them a Thorn item...
I always imagined she said that in a “dead” or dejected manner, as she’s slowly falling victim to this mindset I implanted in her head… What have I DONE?!?
interestingly, the ingame name of this track is "berdly_fight_heartbeat_true" and is a 17s loop. turning that into this remix with different melody in it really make it interesting.
The interesting thing is that this isn't the only time that 17 second loop has appeared. It's the bass used in Smart Race, lying at the bottom of the music, that everything else in that song uses as a meter.
Seeing berdly just dead after kris broke the fountain was so chilling, seeing just his lifeless body there, no dust, no blood, just him. Gave me so many more goosebumps than undertales genocide route did
I can imagine noelle crying over berdly's (snow) grave and Kris slowly aproaching her, then picking her up so she goes along them, without giving noelle a choice to stay or leave. Just forcing noelle to go with you
This remix is so *cool!* Man, this route really sent the *chills* down my spine I *froze* at the part where Berdly died It was really *cold* of THE PLAYER to manipulate Noelle like that
I think Berdly didn't die in ice, i think what it happened with him horrible than death, he stucked in dark world and when fountain was closed only one what left is that Berdly ice prison with him inside.
This situation remind me about Undertale genocide route where everybody thought the real monster is the"Chara" but real monster only we who kill everyone and don't care about their "hopes and dreams" (also this relate with Au too) We all time trying blame the other people for our actions but never see how much dirt we have inside us.
I don't care if somebody will start genocide route, but if this person will blame other people or make a "scapegoat" out of the character i'm sorry...that will make pissing me off
I'd like to put the snow grave route in perspective for a moment, for both Kris and Noelle. Imagine living your life as normal, smiling and making friends as you would normally. Then one day you wake up and you do your normal routine, yet you can't control yourself. You're trapped in your own body, unable to move or do anything. Imagine you meet your childhood friend, and watch yourself helplessly manipulative her into killing her best friend. And imagine hearing a voice from heaven say abstract commands, forcing you to do things that you wouldn't normally do because you are previously unexposed to that same voice. Being forced to become 'stronger' with your friend, until meeting your best friend and instantly recognizing him as your enemy. You then try to make them run away but it's too late, the voice comes back for one small word. "SNOWGRAVE" The voice once again proves irresistible and you use it, and when you realize that you've done it's already too late.
I don't even know what i like to the snowgrave route so much it might be cuz of how much the story changes from cartoon typical style adventure to fucking tragedy so quickly. Also great remix!
I also loved this, I might be a bit of a sucker for drama, but damn it Toby, you outdid yourself on this one. The emotions, the ambience, the tragedy is almost *killing me* .
every beat feels like it could represent the steady bump of someone's heart, could it be Kris'? knowing he cant stop the player from controlling him, from pushing an old friend to kill so many people? is it the fear in Noelle, comprehending the fact that while she was getting stronger, it was for the wrong reasons, and its too late to turn back as the player now uses her like a puppet? or is it the steady beat of berdly heart that comes to a halt, once we force Noelle to use snowgrave on him?
EDIT: Apparently the name of the song is “Berdly Heartbeat Loop 17”, which makes my little essay all for nothing. Frick. As you said, it’s a steady bump. Whoever the heart belongs to, is focusing. Kris would be panicking, as they aren’t in control while they watch you force Noel to use her powers to break Berdly as well as her own sanity. Speaking of Noel being on the edge of her sanity, she isn’t too likely of being focused. That leaves Berdly. As you know, monsters can use determination in their last moments, or in when the monster needs more power than what they previously had the ability to harness. The first example is for Undyne, but the second example, used by Sans, is what Berdly is using. In his one attack during the snowgrave fight, he does that one calculation-snake-ish move he has used before. But this time, it is more powerful, rigging the arrows so you cannot dodge them. I think the heartbeat belongs to Berdly because he is forced to focus on Kris, who he thinks is manipulating Noel. He is determined to save Noel, so he would have to be focused. Also, the heartbeat getting cut to a stop when Snowgrave is used is kind of a giveaway. Should’ve started with that…
Imagine what would have happened if no one had discovered deltarune's genocidal route and Toby fox have to revealed it a month later, or more. 🤔 Cool remix!
The chance of that was near 0, since most secrets in games nowadays are discovered through datemining the code itself. True secrets in games are something basically lost to time, nowadays.
that would be physically impossible A. code miners, people who look trough the code are obviously gonna find something related to killing everyone and try it in-game resulting in finding the route B. just some random sadistic person (like me) would just kill everyone just for fun and find it by accident
@@Funtime2UwU the thing is there’s more to the route than just killing everything with noelle you have to find and equip certain items so it’s not completely possible to find it through plain genocide
The thing this route sets up is genuinely terrifying. We’ve been told by Toby fox that this game has one ending, that your choices don’t matter. But here? We get told differently. Berdly? He’s probably dead. And Noelle most likely is mentally scarred. Our choices don’t matter. But others do. Noelle made the choice to listen to us. Manipulation made this route possible. Noelle made this route possible. And notice the last requirement for this route? The final step to securing this route in game? The final stop where you can abort this route? Using snowgrave on Berdly. That one choice defines this entire route. That one choice caused us to fight spamton neo by ourselves. So what’s next? How else will we manipulate the narrative? Only time will tell…
Curiousity and fear. Probably. In my blind snowgrave I was having a lot of trouble to select proceed, was aborting the route and reloading a lot but Also I caught cold irl after finishing _that_. I hate it
Heartbeat True (actual name of the OST) is actually really feels creepy because Berdly looks really serious and YOU (the player) just orders Noelle to finish Berdly off.
A little think for Toby who will have to continue the story with all the possible variables, jokes, talks where Birdly will or will not be for 5 more chapters
Birdly didnt turn into puddle or dust so we cant say he's dead for sure. He's probably gonna occupy hospital's right room in the next chapter. Conscious or not.
@@griddmeirax The snowgrave spell very clearly stated it was fatal, so I don’t think it’s up for debate if he’s alive. Even so, him being in the hospital is a big narrative difference to him being in school, so unless we’re skipping school for good from here on out, it’ll be hard to adjust without major changes
I love how in this remix, Noelle's theme (as well as *someone else's* theme) is slowly amplified until it completely smothers Berdly's theme like a snowstorm- and then it plays quietly again, as though it doesn't know what it has done...
*It's dark and snowing outside. Noelle: GET OUT OF MY HEAD!! Noelle Slashes kris. Kris takes 13 damage. *Kris wants nothing to do with this... 30% STRESS Kris: 87/100 Act Whisper Noelle (100% HP 0% MERCY) *You whisper something in Noelle's ear... +8% Noelle is freaking out! Noelle: WHY WON'T YOU LEAVE ME ALONE!!!! Noelle slashes kris Kris takes 14 Damage **But you do.* *Kris is getting stressed out. 40% STRESS Kris 74/100 Act Whisper Noelle (100% HP 8% MERCY?) *You Whisper something. +17% *Kris is sweating. *Noelle is screaming. Noelle: AHHH GET OUT!! I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING!! Noelle STABS Kris! Kris takes 24 Damage. *This isn't a dream this time. 50% STRESS Kris 50/100 HP Act Whisper Noelle (100% HP 25% MERCY?) *You Whisper something. +7% *Kris is breathing heavy, *Noelle.. Is very slightly calmer Noelle: I... I didn't... I. I Would never do that! Noelle slashes Kris! Kris takes 10 damage! *She deserves to know. 60% STRESS Kris 40/100 HP Act Whisper Noelle (100% HP 33% ACCEPTANCE) *You Whisper something. +13% *Kris is stumbling. *Noelle is very slightly calmer. Noelle: I.. killed him... what... is wrong with me! Noelle STABS Noelle 33! *And now she does. 70% STRESS Kris 40/100 Act Whisper Noelle (66% HP 50% ACCEPTANCE) *You Whisper something. +16% *Kris is crying. *Noelle is very slightly calmer. Noelle: No...I got it all wrong! You.. you forced me to do it!! Noelle STABS Kris. Kris takes 20 damage! *She wanted Strength, so you gave it to her. 80% STRESS Kris 20/100! Act Whisper Noelle (66% HP 66% ACCEPTANCE) *You Whisper to her, telling Her that she could've just walked away if she wanted, and that It was Her decision. +9% *Kris is whispering to you to stop. *Noelle is still bleeding. Noelle: No...i..why..why did I do it! Noelle slashes Kris Kris takes 10 damage *Tell her why. 90% STRESS Kris 10/100! Act Whisper Noelle (65% HP 75% ACCEPTANCE) *You Whisper to her, telling her that she wanted Strength, and you just granted her wish, and she killed for said Strength, and you told her that it... w a s g o o d +25% *Kris is practically screaming "STOP, PLEASE STOP!!" *Noelle is finally calmer. Noelle: So...it..........yeah...it was good..... Noelle barely cuts Kris Kris takes 5 damage. *He knows, he doesn't want to lose his childhood friend, fair enough. 100% STRESS!!! Kris. 5 HP LEFT Spare Noelle *You spa- *Kris objects. *Kris is ripping his soul out!!! Kris takes 0.01 damage Kris takes 0.05 damage Kris takes 0.1 damage Kris takes 0.3 damage Kris takes 0.5 damage Kris takes 1 damage Kris takes 3 damage Kris... was interrupted. ??????: I can't let you do that. Kris fainted. An ambulance's sirens can be heard as he passes out. 5 SOULS LEFT
The way you can hear leitmotifs from Lost Girl, but distorted and ever so slightly off key. It’s perfect, and fits in nicely with the rest of the song. This sounds like it would be an official deltarune song, and it’s gotten the credit it deserves!
I just compeleted the Showgrave.. And damn, this is so creepy. Almost the entire way I was simply unpleasant, but when the Queen in Ralsei's castle asked where everyone was... I just started crying.
Just the part of 0:52 just gives me a sense of uncanny dread. To me, it is like a Winter Wasteland, devoid of its once joyful qualities. This is a really good remix overall. Kudos to you.
In Undertale, the Genocide route feels like a grind, a chore, as if you "have" to do it. In Deltarune, it feels almost perverse. You aren't just murdering everyone, you're corrupting an innocent person to do it for you, and I think that really sets it apart from the original Genocide route Heres hoping future chapters remember what you did, you monster.
Note: If you wanna manipulate Noelle even further, don’t snowgrave Berdly. See, he’s only one person. But if you make Noelle think nothing’s wrong, and that she’s just getting stronger, you can use her further to continue freezing countless enemies. Course, if toby continues the snowgrave route and has noelle listen, then sure, go for it. But i have a feeling he won’t.
I somehow hear a lil' bit of your gaster's theme remix in there, Nyx. Either way, this really does fit Noelle's snowgrave very well. Good remix. Edit: Turns out it's just a part of the Glitchtale OST... "Awaited Return" I believe
This remix definitely encompasses how tense the encounter with Berdly is in this route, since he _knows_ something is *definitely* wrong with Kris and Noelle, unlike the main route, where he just comically misses the point as usual. Gaster’s theme being mixed into this adds to that, as well. It’s also like a buildup, or rather, a countdown, until the player’s pressuring on Noelle to use the dreaded *SnowGrave* spell causes her to snap, and she screams *“WATCH WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I CAST A SPELL I DON’T KNOW!”* and seals her friend’s fate.
I went into chapter 2 as blind as a bat but avoided a violent run as soon as I hit the ground. Seeing the comments, I have never been more thankful for choosing peace.
I mean you’re only using kris’ body here it’s not actually kris in control of his actions unless he rips the soul out. Hell there are small deets in the route that means you did it not kris like in the end of the route where it says “you whispered noelle’s name” instead of “kris called for help” like it normally does.
@@yman7254 yeah I know, it was just easier to say it like that, bdw I have a theory that kriss sold his soul to someone who (like us) and we are playing the game doing pacifist and genocide routtes just like flowey did in undertale, and he is trying to fight back somehow? Also he is the one who creates the fountains to... idk have a good time and hang out with ralsei and suzie?
what if there was like a "good ending" ? look: instead of noelle using snowgrave on berdly, she uses it on KRIS, and then you control berdly and noelle, because kris broked the ice and then, this music plays when kris is free. the text box (idk if there is one, im too lazy for looking in a fight of deltarune) says: "what.. did just happened?" and there are 3 endings. GENOCIDE: when kris is at 3 HP you can make 2 options: kill him or spare him. if you kill him, noelle uses snowgrave again on kris and then he dies. berdly leaves the fight but noelle looks at kris, thinking about "what is gonna susie say when i tell she this?" or "what did i just do? he was my best friend but.. he forced me..". PACIFIST:again,when kris is at 3 HP you can make 2 options: kill him or spare him. if you spare him noelle cast "heal prayer" so kris get's on 63 HP, kris get up and looks at noelle and berdly, he is paralysed. you can act but nobody can say nothing, in a moment kris says: "noelle.. why did you did this?.. after all the bad thingsi did to you.. you.. spare me?" noelle and berdly dosen't say nothing. the name of "kris" is in yellow, the other buttons don't work so you are forced to spare kris. when you do that everthing brokens, and then, kris,berdly and noelle fall in a pit. they go to the light world and kris says to noelle: "im sorry..." noelle can't say nothing, she can't take all what happened. kris says to noelle, to calm her: "want to go for an ice cream?" noelle says yes and then, they go to eat some ice cream and go to home. NEUTRAL ENDING: again (frick im tired) when kris is at 3 HP you can make 2 options: kill him or spare him. if you act, there is something especial: "do nothing" if you do that, nothing happens,kris eat a dark candy and.. ran away. when berdly,noelle and kris are in the light world they just, wave their hands like saying "goodbye" and go to their houses. that was a lot omg. say me if you liked it :D
Is nobody going to talk about Noelles reaction after this even I mean for one he don’t see her facial expression an two the wiki stated she walked away in a depressed daze
I feel like Snowgrave Route is even more depressing, terrifying and evil than Undertale's Genocide Route, because, while you're doing the evil acts yourself in Undertale... In Deltarune, you're forcing a sweet, innocent girl to do unspeakable, evil things to everyone she meets in the Dark World, until she, eventually, kills her own best friend. That shit is way more evil. Toby Fox really outdid himself on Deltarune's "Genocide" Route.
Neutral Undertale: Normal Undertale Genocide: normal Undertale several times genocide route: ok its scary Deltarune snowgrave 1 time: HELP, I AM A PSYCHOPATH HELP ME
I FUCKING GOT IT! PLAYER can't KILL anybody, because in this he is prevented by Kris himself from giving him the choice to kill. But Noelle... She can. Kris can't influence her, but PLAYER... YES. it's brilliant!
And now hearing the snowgrave sound It's much more violent sounding once I heard it after doing it again to get some dialogues for a art ref No wonder it's a fatal spell Its a frosty grave to say at least.
Man seeing your enemy's and your nerd friend meeting a cold fate is really scary and just seeing there corpse freezing is just gives you the feeling of being bad like berdly is just stuck at his surprised pose.
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This route was genuinely terrifying. While Undertale's genocide run was scary and sad, seeing all your friends be killed, Deltarune makes it worse. Deltarune forces an innocent, sweet kid to kill her friend, as well as many others. Noelle was under the impression she was getting stronger, and only realized it was a lie when it was too late. This remix really interprets the fear and horror this route brings to the story.
the way we forced her to do even the smaller things. Imply we're "something else". Pushing her onto the puzzle so shes forced to freeze it. Her just questioning what we're doing is just heartbreaking, her emotions just getting all confused and scared
@@yeeyt464 I felt more bad for her than I did for the creatures I was actually killing cause of that. I just felt horrible making her do all this stuff that she's clearly not comfortable with, all for the sake of "power".
Proceed.
Proceed.
I think it makes it worse that this shouldn't be happening. Delta rune is supposed to have only one ending.
Unlike genocide in Undertale, I felt genuine remorse here. This route does a good job of making you feel bad about what you're doing. Undertale mostly has people being angry or trusting you foolishly, while Deltarune shoves what you've done in your face multiple times, and shows the creepier side of things. Don't get me wrong, undertale's genocide route is awesome but snowgrave makes me feel genuinely bad about what i'm doing.
I honestly think Deltarune does a better job at characterization than Undertale. Which really says a lot since Undertale has some awesome characters.
That among other reason is why snowgrave hits so hard. Noelle is easy to get attached to, and you spend so much longer on her fall than you do on anyone in Undertale Genocide. Not to mention the underlying existence of an external controlling force is a lot more compelling when the controlled character isn't a silent protagonist.
All of these factors and more combine to achieve the result you are noticing.
Believe it or not, I saw people who were frankly trying to prove to me that everything that happens to Noelle in this route ... is good for her. Because we make her more self-confident and she lacks it. She needs this in order to withstand the impending death of her father and not indulge her domineering mother.
And all the kills that we do are just ... "necessary sacrifices" and all of this will be useful in the long run.
@@feodaron89 ah yes, we are the good guys for manipulating this teenager into killing several people, including her friend
@@feodaron89 yup. Because gaslighting and mentally torturing an innocent girl who trusts you is good for her apparently.
@@angelsartandgaming genius
Ugh that bit of Lost Girl just makes this so much more emotional.
hell yeah it does.
Time stamp?
@@sofiafatholrazak5556 1:28
@@greenberrygk ah thank you
@@greenberrygk Both that and the gaster part right before that got me good.
The scariest part about this is that in the normal route, if you don't unplug Berdly during the first fight against the queen, he paralyzes his arm to force the plug off. When he does this, his arm is paralyzed in the real world.
The attack on Snowgrave simply reads "Fatal". This means that yes, Berdly really is dead in the completed Snowgrave route.
Furthermore in the hospital lobby, checking the toddler playset in the lower-left has new dialogue stating the blue bead was broken off.
@@NightSprinter holy. Fucking. Shit
@@AstralShot yeah. Toby doesn't skip out on the little details.
Monsters turn to dust when killed so berdy may not actually be dead.
@@shimmienshake Not necessarily. In Undertale they introduce the concept of “fallen down”. A state a monster can enter into where they’re by all accounts dead, but don’t disintegrate. I believe Berdly is fallen down.
How I wish, at the end of the Snowgrave Route, you interact with Berdly, the dialogue would have said:
"He's out cold."
*Yes.*
🤣
Chara didn't find it funny
@@Ambipie More like _Kris_ didn’t find it funny.
"Please don't disturb my friend. He's dead tired."
Aside of undyne’s neutrual death, the snow grave moment is the second time I actually felt disturb, and that says something from undertale/deltarune
Undyne neutral death was so sad :(
@@gollygosh yes ;c. what made it worse is that Alphys didn't watch the fight so she has no idea that undyne is dead :C
*its just a game?*
Imagine could be Toriel use Hellfire to kills Undyne scream getting hellfire in Snowgrave Route.
What 😃
I actually was shocked when i figured out that there's a "Snowgrave ending". I never thought that Undertale's genocide route would look like a joke compared to this
And this is only the beginning
@@zer0watch454 Oh no you're right--
I can imagine the mental and emotional state of literally every character only deteriorating from here and that both excites and terrifies me
Wait-
How tf would Susie react if she knew we were responsible for Berdly dying
Or stuck in the void in a way
I wouldnt say a joke, (Papyrus believing in you is still hitting like a truck) but Yeah this is better.
Snowgrave pretty deeply upset me with just what Kris was doing to a completely innocent person
You know, having SnowGrave route as an option means that Berdly won't play any part/won't even appear in future Deltarune chapters. He basically died here, and Toby has to count that in the future parts of the game, no matter what route we actually take here.
He could potentially. He might be a selectable party member in the future chapters, if we get a choice of party members at all. And of course, if he's not there, then you just have to select someone else instead...
Maybe,maybe not do u remember Star walker I thought he's a character that will appear anyway but when I saw some people didn't met him I knew what happened maybe it's similar case though Star walker didn't do much in the story
The route we take only changes the context of the ending, that's what I think we're supposed to get. Perhaps he ends up in the hospital no matter what? Considering he does get his arm paralyzed in the route where you don't save him, maybe someone finds him quickly enough they can send him to the hospital? I don't like what that implies for the normal route though.
@@mulberrytea549 He broke his arm? When?
there is also chance that the route will differ depending on what choices we did
i mean it will take some time
but it is not impossible
i mean i think that berdly wont play a bigger part but still i think we will know what happened to him after that
This is the LITERAL song for disturbance, depression, and horrible mistakes. And yet, you remixed it to make it way better. Like always!
Depression? No, this song has too much movement. Depression is best represented by a barely evolving dissonant drone. But the song does fit with the actual theme of the battle. Horror, and the disassociation from it.
@@andrasfogarasi5014 I think this song better fits the constant feeling of impending doom you get from an anxiety or panic attack while Flashback gives more of a depression feel.
This is the song of [BIG SHOTS]
“Literal” 🙄
Wish _my_ depression bumped this hard, idk what yours runs on
Whats even mpre disturbing is that we can see her LOVE increase just by her dialogue
One of worst case that Noelle get Gains LV stands to Levels of Violence after Killed Berdly.
Interestingly enough her HP decreases until it reaches 55, which is written as LV in roman numbers.
@@devector4122 that's probably not coincidental, but 55 is also a third of her max health (rounded down i believe)
Protogen
@The Lonely Proto protogen
Guys I realised that in the snowgrave run, in the battle vs Spamton Neo, when Noelle use her attack it says that "YOU whispered her name" (can't remember the exact sentence) but when you call for Ralsei or Susie it says that "Kris called for help"
Again showing that Kris had no choice but to sit and watch as the player force him to hurt one of their childhood friends.
Ralsei and Susie call out Kris for looking "hurt" after the SnowGrave figth.
And people are still fucking dumb enough to blame all of this on Kris.
@@horrorsans3676 figth
Kris: [tries one last time to play it nice, to give Spamton _something_ of a chance to resolve things peacefully without anyone dying]
You: *Proceed.*
@@horrorsans3676 Well..let's not forget some people like to use Chara as a scapegoat for when they play the genocide route. This is just a similar situation really.
Humans don't like to admit to the atrocities they commit..who would, really?
You goddamn right! That was not Kris call for help, that was our call for the person who was obsessed, like a doll what we can control by the strings
This whole route is terrifying after considering the normal ending
In this one you literally have Noelle confront her best friend and kill him in an ice Crystal
Imagine how scarring that is. How genuinely terrifying that is. Seeing your best friend see you as just another enemy after being with someone then being instantly frozen by them
Or being that friend…as you see your best friend and just…kill them pretty much. It’s unclear if Berdly is dead but she literally just freezes him in a fatal attack because this creepy new friend told her to.
It’s haunting.
Bruh i have now Goosebumps
Honestly if you can even see through the ice crystal, I'm sure his expression would make this even more horrifying.
Frozen in fear for eternity.
@@toolazytorenamemyself oh yeah that makes it a million times worse knowing you could stare in at a still terrified expression
kinda mirrors chara killing flowey in the genocide route, especially after flowey showed asriel's face to garner pity.
still, the fact that Berdly died trying to get noelle to snap out of it was more chilling.
@@MC_lupin that's what got me the most. The most selfless act he could ever do and it's the one that gets him killed. Makes you sick to your stomach, atleast for me...
Undertale's genocide route is an old school creepypasta compared to this. Consider the following.
Genocide: and then I killed them all. The music slowed down and they were sad.
Snow grave: I bent her to my whims, and by the time she had grown wise to the situation birdly was already past tense.
Killing everyone doesn't seem THAT horrifying if you just slash them and leave dust behind you. We only thought that was the most unsettling thing because we didn't know anything worse.
@abcdef-ms9mb We wanted a darker alternative route for deltarune, we got it. Guess you could say we ate the apple of knowledge of good and evil.
Gaster: No one can choose who they are in this world
Player: *Decides to force Noelle to commit genocide via freezing everyone to death*
Gaster: Well sh*t
No one can choose who they are in this world.
So we do it for them...
I just decided Gaster. I think I like my vessel as Noelle MUCH better than as Kris. (:
@@chunkmcbeefnob717 yeah but Noelle is emotionally unstable,i think she is gonna betrayed us.😐
maybe we are gonna try to kill Susie in the end and that is gonna trigger Noelle.
@@ivanelias3916 1. We can’t kill someone in the dark world, well we can but the effects mainly take place in the real world
But choose what to do to otherr who aren't part ofe the LEGEND
Nice remix, someone should put that into an animation!
Personally, my favorite quote from this whole Route was:
*“Kris, it looks like another enemy. Should I freeze them?”*
The way it's said in my head, makes me want to see a proper animation, comic or voice dubbing of that particular situation. And the mere fact that Toby allowed us to do this to poor Noelle makes the quote all the more deranged when said to someone like Berdly. It shows how far gone she was during that moment and it makes for pretty interesting scenarios for the third chapter.
Something like this makes you wonder...if Noelle stayed like the way she was, would she be the key we needed for True Genocide?
If you want an animation with that go check Jakei (jael penaloza)
@@bumblebeelebird7345 Thanks for the recommendation. Anything else that would be interesting...
She falls at 55 HP in this fight no matter what.
LV is 55 in roman numbers. I'll let you connect the dots. . .
Aside from that, I wonder if we will get to corrupt other characters, and also give them a Thorn item...
@Mykeje we made a new flowey, everyone
I always imagined she said that in a “dead” or dejected manner, as she’s slowly falling victim to this mindset I implanted in her head…
What have I DONE?!?
interestingly, the ingame name of this track is "berdly_fight_heartbeat_true"
and is a 17s loop.
turning that into this remix with different melody in it really make it interesting.
The interesting thing is that this isn't the only time that 17 second loop has appeared.
It's the bass used in Smart Race, lying at the bottom of the music, that everything else in that song uses as a meter.
*"Watch what happens when I cast a spell I don't know!"*
*Its hard to see though the ice.
*PK ice*
Winner winner chicken dinner
@@thebookless3381 more like frozen chicken dinner
@@thebookless3381 I don’t think I wanna eat an entire ice diamond just for a uncooked chicken that’s been in the fridge for too long
Seeing berdly just dead after kris broke the fountain was so chilling, seeing just his lifeless body there, no dust, no blood, just him. Gave me so many more goosebumps than undertales genocide route did
I can imagine noelle crying over berdly's (snow) grave and Kris slowly aproaching her, then picking her up so she goes along them, without giving noelle a choice to stay or leave. Just forcing noelle to go with you
Pipis ---> 🔵
Nah she kinda just dipped.
then they have to fight susie
This remix is so *cool!*
Man, this route really sent the *chills* down my spine
I *froze* at the part where Berdly died
It was really *cold* of THE PLAYER to manipulate Noelle like that
I think Berdly didn't die in ice, i think what it happened with him horrible than death, he stucked in dark world and when fountain was closed only one what left is that Berdly ice prison with him inside.
This situation remind me about Undertale genocide route where everybody thought the real monster is the"Chara" but real monster only we who kill everyone and don't care about their "hopes and dreams" (also this relate with Au too) We all time trying blame the other people for our actions but never see how much dirt we have inside us.
I don't care if somebody will start genocide route, but if this person will blame other people or make a "scapegoat" out of the character i'm sorry...that will make pissing me off
Hey it's kinda iced up of you to make puns at a time like this. Why don't you just chill it?
It's not Kris who manipulate her, it's you
I'd like to put the snow grave route in perspective for a moment, for both Kris and Noelle.
Imagine living your life as normal, smiling and making friends as you would normally. Then one day you wake up and you do your normal routine, yet you can't control yourself. You're trapped in your own body, unable to move or do anything.
Imagine you meet your childhood friend, and watch yourself helplessly manipulative her into killing her best friend.
And imagine hearing a voice from heaven say abstract commands, forcing you to do things that you wouldn't normally do because you are previously unexposed to that same voice.
Being forced to become 'stronger' with your friend, until meeting your best friend and instantly recognizing him as your enemy. You then try to make them run away but it's too late, the voice comes back for one small word.
"SNOWGRAVE"
The voice once again proves irresistible and you use it, and when you realize that you've done it's already too late.
I don't even know what i like to the snowgrave route so much
it might be cuz of how much the story changes from cartoon typical style adventure to
fucking tragedy so quickly.
Also great remix!
I also loved this, I might be a bit of a sucker for drama, but damn it Toby, you outdid yourself on this one.
The emotions, the ambience, the tragedy is almost *killing me* .
every beat feels like it could represent the steady bump of someone's heart, could it be Kris'? knowing he cant stop the player from controlling him, from pushing an old friend to kill so many people? is it the fear in Noelle, comprehending the fact that while she was getting stronger, it was for the wrong reasons, and its too late to turn back as the player now uses her like a puppet? or is it the steady beat of berdly heart that comes to a halt, once we force Noelle to use snowgrave on him?
That is an amazing comparison. Especially since the name of the song is *Heartbeat True.*
EDIT: Apparently the name of the song is “Berdly Heartbeat Loop 17”, which makes my little essay all for nothing. Frick.
As you said, it’s a steady bump. Whoever the heart belongs to, is focusing. Kris would be panicking, as they aren’t in control while they watch you force Noel to use her powers to break Berdly as well as her own sanity. Speaking of Noel being on the edge of her sanity, she isn’t too likely of being focused. That leaves Berdly. As you know, monsters can use determination in their last moments, or in when the monster needs more power than what they previously had the ability to harness. The first example is for Undyne, but the second example, used by Sans, is what Berdly is using. In his one attack during the snowgrave fight, he does that one calculation-snake-ish move he has used before. But this time, it is more powerful, rigging the arrows so you cannot dodge them. I think the heartbeat belongs to Berdly because he is forced to focus on Kris, who he thinks is manipulating Noel. He is determined to save Noel, so he would have to be focused. Also, the heartbeat getting cut to a stop when Snowgrave is used is kind of a giveaway. Should’ve started with that…
Imagine what would have happened if no one had discovered deltarune's genocidal route and Toby fox have to revealed it a month later, or more. 🤔
Cool remix!
The chance of that was near 0, since most secrets in games nowadays are discovered through datemining the code itself. True secrets in games are something basically lost to time, nowadays.
@@subprogram32 yeah...unless the game don't have a lot of attention...but for big game like deltarune/undertale, it become impossible
@@subprogram32 yep, like Toby fox said, is imposible to have secrets in now days
that would be physically impossible
A. code miners, people who look trough the code are obviously gonna find something related to killing everyone and try it in-game resulting in finding the route
B. just some random sadistic person (like me) would just kill everyone just for fun and find it by accident
@@Funtime2UwU the thing is there’s more to the route than just killing everything with noelle you have to find and equip certain items so it’s not completely possible to find it through plain genocide
*Wake Up? No. She has already awoken too much.*
*She must rest now, into a darker, darker dream.*
The thing this route sets up is genuinely terrifying. We’ve been told by Toby fox that this game has one ending, that your choices don’t matter. But here? We get told differently. Berdly? He’s probably dead. And Noelle most likely is mentally scarred. Our choices don’t matter. But others do. Noelle made the choice to listen to us. Manipulation made this route possible. Noelle made this route possible. And notice the last requirement for this route? The final step to securing this route in game? The final stop where you can abort this route? Using snowgrave on Berdly. That one choice defines this entire route. That one choice caused us to fight spamton neo by ourselves. So what’s next? How else will we manipulate the narrative? Only time will tell…
Also if this somehow get to the game, is by far the my sick yet disturbing deltarune song I’ve ever heard
This remix really reveals the darkness of those events.
If you pay close attention, you can make out Gaster's theme in it.
gaster keep appearing when someone is about to die
real
it’s kinda obvious
Makes sense because the player(the one who controls Kris‘s soul) has a connection to Gaster
I wonder what the first person to do the snowgrave route felt
Sadness and fear probably
Besides if the first person never showed us someone would have found it anyways
Curiousity and fear. Probably.
In my blind snowgrave I was having a lot of trouble to select proceed, was aborting the route and reloading a lot but
Also I caught cold irl after finishing _that_. I hate it
@@griddmeirax You caught a *Cold* eh? Sounds... Troubling.
Heartbeat True (actual name of the OST) is actually really feels creepy because Berdly looks really serious and YOU (the player) just orders Noelle to finish Berdly off.
Man, that Snowgrave sound effect at the end gives me the chills.
A little think for Toby who will have to continue the story with all the possible variables, jokes, talks where Birdly will or will not be for 5 more chapters
Birdly didnt turn into puddle or dust so we cant say he's dead for sure. He's probably gonna occupy hospital's right room in the next chapter. Conscious or not.
@@griddmeirax The snowgrave spell very clearly stated it was fatal, so I don’t think it’s up for debate if he’s alive. Even so, him being in the hospital is a big narrative difference to him being in school, so unless we’re skipping school for good from here on out, it’ll be hard to adjust without major changes
1:46 That is one of the most terrifying sounds I ever heard
In general, everything about Snowgrave is... wrong.
Terrifying? Yes
Beautiful? Yes
Chilling? Ice cold
Hotel? Trivago
I liked it a lot =3
@@infinityheart_tm9270 the music or the snowgrave sound
falco down b
holy shit bee bee pants sue
Can you please do song for this one?
I love how in this remix, Noelle's theme (as well as *someone else's* theme) is slowly amplified until it completely smothers Berdly's theme like a snowstorm- and then it plays quietly again, as though it doesn't know what it has done...
What noelle did
Thats just COLD
what the player did, he manipulates her into doing this.
@@diogomuniz5040 yes, but writing the comment this way makes more sense for the pun im trying to make
@@diogomuniz5040 DID YOU JUST IGNORE THE JOKE?!?!?!?! For shame...
@@CreamCheese-ys6ye i got a real frosty reception
@@CreamCheese-ys6ye a sorry... thats a good joke
Now that fanart makes it look more depressing.
There appears to be a new remix.
*[Proceed]*
You know what song its about
[PROCEED]
Correct.
*[Proceed]*
What's this remix for?
Getting stronger
Getting stronger? I dont know what youre doing, but im gonna stop you
(Epic remix plays)
This remix isn't a dream.
We killed a child. What the fuck was this route, man? What an incredible game. I am empty now.
I guess you had *snow* problem getting this one out, huh?
Get off the stage
that was pretty *cold hearted* of you
Hey bro CHILL with that puns
You are digging your own GRAVE there bud
Please, SNOW mercy with the puns
Your choices don't matter in this world.
So you decide for others.
*It's dark and snowing outside.
Noelle: GET OUT OF MY HEAD!!
Noelle Slashes kris.
Kris takes 13 damage.
*Kris wants nothing to do with this...
30% STRESS
Kris: 87/100
Act
Whisper
Noelle (100% HP 0% MERCY)
*You whisper something in Noelle's ear...
+8%
Noelle is freaking out!
Noelle: WHY WON'T YOU LEAVE ME ALONE!!!!
Noelle slashes kris
Kris takes 14 Damage
**But you do.*
*Kris is getting stressed out.
40% STRESS
Kris 74/100
Act
Whisper
Noelle (100% HP 8% MERCY?)
*You Whisper something.
+17%
*Kris is sweating.
*Noelle is screaming.
Noelle: AHHH GET OUT!! I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING!!
Noelle STABS Kris!
Kris takes 24 Damage.
*This isn't a dream this time.
50% STRESS
Kris 50/100 HP
Act
Whisper
Noelle (100% HP 25% MERCY?)
*You Whisper something.
+7%
*Kris is breathing heavy,
*Noelle.. Is very slightly calmer
Noelle: I... I didn't... I. I Would never do that!
Noelle slashes Kris!
Kris takes 10 damage!
*She deserves to know.
60% STRESS
Kris 40/100 HP
Act
Whisper
Noelle (100% HP 33% ACCEPTANCE)
*You Whisper something.
+13%
*Kris is stumbling.
*Noelle is very slightly calmer.
Noelle: I.. killed him... what... is wrong with me!
Noelle STABS Noelle
33!
*And now she does.
70% STRESS
Kris 40/100
Act
Whisper
Noelle (66% HP 50% ACCEPTANCE)
*You Whisper something.
+16%
*Kris is crying.
*Noelle is very slightly calmer.
Noelle: No...I got it all wrong! You.. you forced me to do it!!
Noelle STABS Kris.
Kris takes 20 damage!
*She wanted Strength, so you gave it to her.
80% STRESS
Kris 20/100!
Act
Whisper
Noelle (66% HP 66% ACCEPTANCE)
*You Whisper to her, telling Her that she could've just walked away if she wanted, and that It was Her decision.
+9%
*Kris is whispering to you to stop.
*Noelle is still bleeding.
Noelle: No...i..why..why did I do it!
Noelle slashes Kris
Kris takes 10 damage
*Tell her why.
90% STRESS
Kris 10/100!
Act
Whisper
Noelle (65% HP 75% ACCEPTANCE)
*You Whisper to her, telling her that she wanted Strength, and you just granted her wish, and she killed for said Strength, and you told her that it... w a s g o o d
+25%
*Kris is practically screaming "STOP, PLEASE STOP!!"
*Noelle is finally calmer.
Noelle: So...it..........yeah...it was good.....
Noelle barely cuts Kris
Kris takes 5 damage.
*He knows, he doesn't want to lose his childhood friend, fair enough.
100% STRESS!!!
Kris. 5 HP LEFT
Spare
Noelle
*You spa-
*Kris objects.
*Kris is ripping his soul out!!!
Kris takes 0.01 damage
Kris takes 0.05 damage
Kris takes 0.1 damage
Kris takes 0.3 damage
Kris takes 0.5 damage
Kris takes 1 damage
Kris takes 3 damage
Kris... was interrupted.
??????: I can't let you do that.
Kris fainted.
An ambulance's sirens can be heard as he passes out.
5 SOULS LEFT
Ahh yes...
*D E P R E S S I O N*
Proceed…
With making more amazing remixes!
Undertale Genocide: Big sad energy
Deltarune chapter 2 Genocide: *BIGGER SAD ENERGY*
I love how it transitions from Noelle's theme to Gaster's theme right as she's about to do Snowgrave.
1:10 You Can't Trick Me. That's a Gaster Theme Leimotif.
Of course it is !
The way you can hear leitmotifs from Lost Girl, but distorted and ever so slightly off key. It’s perfect, and fits in nicely with the rest of the song. This sounds like it would be an official deltarune song, and it’s gotten the credit it deserves!
I love such dark themes!
Funfact: heartbeat is smart race but slowed down
*not noelle's theme*
The backround noise in the original ost was the best part of it
I just compeleted the Showgrave.. And damn, this is so creepy. Almost the entire way I was simply unpleasant, but when the Queen in Ralsei's castle asked where everyone was... I just started crying.
Oh my fucking god lost girl being added to this this way is truly chilling
poor berdly, all he wanted to do was to protect noelle.
Just the part of 0:52 just gives me a sense of uncanny dread.
To me, it is like a Winter Wasteland, devoid of its once joyful qualities.
This is a really good remix overall. Kudos to you.
I just love how the music keeps gettin creepier and more tense
In Undertale, the Genocide route feels like a grind, a chore, as if you "have" to do it.
In Deltarune, it feels almost perverse. You aren't just murdering everyone, you're corrupting an innocent person to do it for you, and I think that really sets it apart from the original Genocide route
Heres hoping future chapters remember what you did, you monster.
Note: If you wanna manipulate Noelle even further, don’t snowgrave Berdly. See, he’s only one person. But if you make Noelle think nothing’s wrong, and that she’s just getting stronger, you can use her further to continue freezing countless enemies. Course, if toby continues the snowgrave route and has noelle listen, then sure, go for it. But i have a feeling he won’t.
I somehow hear a lil' bit of your gaster's theme remix in there, Nyx. Either way, this really does fit Noelle's snowgrave very well. Good remix.
Edit: Turns out it's just a part of the Glitchtale OST... "Awaited Return" I believe
This remix definitely encompasses how tense the encounter with Berdly is in this route, since he _knows_ something is *definitely* wrong with Kris and Noelle, unlike the main route, where he just comically misses the point as usual. Gaster’s theme being mixed into this adds to that, as well. It’s also like a buildup, or rather, a countdown, until the player’s pressuring on Noelle to use the dreaded *SnowGrave* spell causes her to snap, and she screams *“WATCH WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I CAST A SPELL I DON’T KNOW!”* and seals her friend’s fate.
Is that GASTER’S THEME FOR THE MELODY!?!? If so that’s GENIUS!
I went into chapter 2 as blind as a bat but avoided a violent run as soon as I hit the ground.
Seeing the comments, I have never been more thankful for choosing peace.
This is really good omg!
I’m protecting her from you.
❤️ Proceed.
*smells like frozen chicken*
Fun fact: that shows up in the normal battle here.
Is it possible to make a looped version of this? I've been listening for half an hour now - this is an absolute vibe!
Update: it's about a day and a half later, and I've had this on loop for an embarrassing amount of time.
Poor Noelle and her mental issiues,
I feel bad for her...
*YOU'RE NOT HELPING KRIS!*
I mean you’re only using kris’ body here it’s not actually kris in control of his actions unless he rips the soul out. Hell there are small deets in the route that means you did it not kris like in the end of the route where it says “you whispered noelle’s name” instead of “kris called for help” like it normally does.
@@yman7254 yeah I know, it was just easier to say it like that, bdw I have a theory that kriss sold his soul to someone who (like us) and we are playing the game doing pacifist and genocide routtes just like flowey did in undertale, and he is trying to fight back somehow? Also he is the one who creates the fountains to... idk have a good time and hang out with ralsei and suzie?
I like how it transformed from a joke to a deep lore conversation, but yeah that makes sense
Man those bits of lost girl and dark darker yet darker scare the crap outta me
Ok but I love how the picture is slightly animated
"I cant believe he didn't cry at the titanic!"
"Do men even have feelings?"
Men:
what if there was like a "good ending" ? look: instead of noelle using snowgrave on berdly, she uses it on KRIS, and then you control berdly and noelle, because kris broked the ice and then, this music plays when kris is free.
the text box (idk if there is one, im too lazy for looking in a fight of deltarune) says: "what.. did just happened?" and there are 3 endings.
GENOCIDE: when kris is at 3 HP you can make 2 options: kill him or spare him.
if you kill him, noelle uses snowgrave again on kris and then he dies.
berdly leaves the fight but noelle looks at kris, thinking about "what is gonna susie say when i tell she this?" or "what did i just do? he was my best friend but.. he forced me..".
PACIFIST:again,when kris is at 3 HP you can make 2 options: kill him or spare him.
if you spare him noelle cast "heal prayer" so kris get's on 63 HP, kris get up and looks at noelle and berdly, he is paralysed. you can act but nobody can say nothing, in a moment kris says: "noelle.. why did you did this?.. after all the bad thingsi did to you.. you.. spare me?" noelle and berdly dosen't say nothing. the name of "kris" is in yellow, the other buttons don't work so you are forced to spare kris. when you do that everthing brokens, and then, kris,berdly and noelle fall in a pit. they go to the light world and kris says to noelle: "im sorry..." noelle can't say nothing, she can't take all what happened. kris says to noelle, to calm her: "want to go for an ice cream?" noelle says yes and then, they go to eat some ice cream and go to home.
NEUTRAL ENDING: again (frick im tired) when kris is at 3 HP you can make 2 options: kill him or spare him. if you act, there is something especial: "do nothing" if you do that, nothing happens,kris eat a dark candy and.. ran away.
when berdly,noelle and kris are in the light world they just, wave their hands like saying "goodbye" and go to their houses.
that was a lot omg. say me if you liked it :D
Is nobody going to talk about Noelles reaction after this even I mean for one he don’t see her facial expression an two the wiki stated she walked away in a depressed daze
*She is broken*
@@Nichu7027 *but strong =)*
Art + Music are both awesome
Man I can hear Gaster's theme.
Kinda annoying seeing people blame Kris for this
Basically its YOU, the player whos forcing Kris to do any lf this, he basically has no control
The use of litemotif here is excellent nyx!
Bruh i have Goosebumps
“WATCH WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I CAST A SPELL I DON’T KNOW!”
actual song: 18 seconds
nyx: i prefer 2 minutes, thank you very much
I feel like Snowgrave Route is even more depressing, terrifying and evil than Undertale's Genocide Route, because, while you're doing the evil acts yourself in Undertale... In Deltarune, you're forcing a sweet, innocent girl to do unspeakable, evil things to everyone she meets in the Dark World, until she, eventually, kills her own best friend. That shit is way more evil. Toby Fox really outdid himself on Deltarune's "Genocide" Route.
1:14 A theme who belongs to a certain someone.
Nawwww the drawing is so good 🥺
I love how you capture the emotions of this scene in this theme
I just realize how scary this route are
I already watch this but forget to comment
Neutral Undertale: Normal
Undertale Genocide: normal
Undertale several times genocide route: ok its scary
Deltarune snowgrave 1 time: HELP, I AM A PSYCHOPATH HELP ME
Replace 2nd and 3rd together
I FUCKING GOT IT! PLAYER can't KILL anybody, because in this he is prevented by Kris himself from giving him the choice to kill.
But Noelle... She can. Kris can't influence her, but PLAYER... YES.
it's brilliant!
And now hearing the snowgrave sound
It's much more violent sounding once I heard it after doing it again to get some dialogues for a art ref
No wonder it's a fatal spell
Its a frosty grave to say at least.
It sounds like a mix of Darkness Falls towards the end thrown in as well, it's definitely something great.
Man seeing your enemy's and your nerd friend meeting a cold fate is really scary and just seeing there corpse freezing is just gives you the feeling of being bad like berdly is just stuck at his surprised pose.
Why is it always the sweet ones who suffer the most...?
Mordecai just got flash frozen
Ice is super effective against flying 😁
Still sounds like a heartbeat
Woah this sounds aweosme
This theme is literally chilling (no pun intended) and it really conveys how Noelle feels
Seeing berdly standing there in the ice is disturbing in all levels
The suspense, tension, chills, heartbeat. This theme is the definition of dread before something bad happens!
I was here in the deltarune discord watching this get made! Woo!
It's been one year since snowgrave...
berdly fucking dies, but a remix.