Chicago Bears Offensive Line Breakdown || Finding the Best 5
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Having depth and competition at the OL has been needed for years. Go Bears
Years!!! The Oline has always taken a backseat. But we all know it's the QBs fault 😉 😂
Ppl always think QB is most critical, but its Oline which is as important as pass rush. Somehow our GMs didn't seem to clearly understand. Trenches 1st. Pressure opps QB and protect yours. Although all 32 teams must do it, it seems some GMs dont get it. Oline is hands down our problem historically. Dominate Offenses have had HOF LTs or all pro. KS has done this for awhile. 49ers dip a little last yr, but they are not weak. How did JGoeff emerge in DET, 3 1st rds on Oline. Draft position doesn't guarantee success, but when it hits, makes a big diff. Top teams typically get Oline right. Health is essential, but talent and depth is critical. I hope we upgrade C and LT. BJones is OK. But we need to have top talent for a change to contend. Let's Goooo! BEAR DOWN
We need more depth on the O-line because both guards have missed games last season.
Ryan bates is a great backup guard/center
No we need better starters. We have bkup quality starting. Upgrade that like we did everything else. Until then the QB issue is not fixed. Literally got another below avg guard to play center...again. and we wasted a pick to get him. Always getting project hopefuls instead of actual proven STARTERS. Even when we draft we don't get the STARS. Outside (wright) we get the potential steals. Raise the damn standards.
I would think Bates is the projected starter at Center only based on Poles attempt to sign him before and his salary. But I understand Shelton there as well. Although somehow drafting JPJ would make this argument void 😂
I foresee many more PANCAKES for this group in the Bears 2024 season! 🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞
Honestly I still think we need a LT if we solidify that line our offense will be fine for years to come
Imagine drafting Joe Alt, and moving Jones to swing tackle...
I dunno, this draft is so WR rich I could see waiting till next year for long term fixes on the OL. Wouldn't be upset with Joe, though.
@@soundautomatic1 But since the draft is so Wr rich, don’t you think we could get quality Wrs in the 3-4th round?
@@soundautomatic1 and if Caleb is as good as we think he is I don’t think we’ll be this high in the draft again to get a great offensive tackle. Where Wrs can be found all over the draft
@@MoneyBag335 I don't see any top 10 WRs lasting past the second round. After that, there's a big drop-off. But to your point, the abundance of quality WRs does make it somewhat more likely that one drops.
Great job Swift! The idea of us having a solid offensive line is a welcome one.
Ryan Poles has only been the Bears GM for two seasons so far.
I could not agree more Swift...Monsters of the TRENCHES! Thank you Swift...BEAR DOWN!
I’d like to see Jenkins go back to RG. I think Shelton at C and Bates at LG would be my favorite lineup. Jenkins and Wright on the right side was huge for our run game.
Bears need 6-7 good picks in this Draft imo. #1 QB #2 3Tech(Could come via trade) #3 WR #4 DE #5 Center Are all definitely needs. Tackle would also be nice to compete. You better trade back twice from 9 😅🤷🏻💯 Get that 2nd going into the teens (or future 1st if they offer🤷🏻 and late pick) Then do it again going into the 20s. Take Powers, Sweat, Chop, Keon Coleman. Someone in that same bracket but at a better value. I hear they like Chop alot, you can move to 20 something and get Chop. Add 2 2nds in this draft maybe more.
We don't have that many picks
@@soundautomatic1 Exactly 💯. Why I believe they move down from 9 to add a 2nd Rd pick, and move Down from their High 3rd Rd pick like the last few years to the mid 3rd to add a 4th Rd pick. Then they can address all these positions
I respectfully disagree. The time for filling out the roster with average players is over. Its now time to add game changers.
The line is in better shape then some make it out to be. if braxton can clean up the penalties, along with the continual development of darnell wright we should be sitting pretty.
If Alt is available, which I don’t think he will be, we need to take him right? That would also reset the clock at LG but most importantly get us an absolute stud for QB1’s blindside
I am intrigued with Olumuyiwa Fashanu, was watching PFF clip about offensive tackles and they claim, by their metrics, he's had one of the BEST EVER careers for college offensive tackle when it comes to pass protection, they do admit his run blocking was below average in college and he will need to put in plenty of work on his strength and technique in run blocking but if you can work on that and get him to average there, he will probably project have the best career of any tackle in the draft. Left tackles that are so good on pass protection, you can put on an island and not worry about them, even forget about them, don't come around often. Could move Braxton Jones to guard or dangle him as trade bait, there have to be some cap strapped (contending) teams that would happily trade 3rd or 4th round pick for experienced player on low salary for 2 more years. IF one of the QB were to fall to number 9, Drake Maye or JJ McCarthy, trading back with Broncos or Raiders would be a good spot to pick him if he's available.
PS. He's also the player media hasn't linked to the bears.....
This is a great video. The first thing I did was divide the number of pressures by the total snaps. Wright gives up a pressure every 22 snaps, Davis every 23 snaps, Shelton every 33 snaps, Jenkins every 43 snaps, and Jones every 23 snaps. Tackles go against the premiere edge rushers so we need to cut them some slack. I still believe our tackle need to do much better. Jenkins is clearly a stud.
Bulding lines on both sides takes allot of picks and money. Poles just keeps chipping away at it. Next year we have a lot of picks again and I would assume that will be a really good line depth/competition draft.
Trade back from #9 and get extra picks PLUS Powers-Johnson or Troy Fautanu
All we did was a slight upgrade at C , because it can't get any worse...... and a slight upgrade at depth. Maybe positive regression as far as missed games w injury, but it's not enough IMO
I think you're not giving Shelton enough credit. I think he's a big upgrade over the last two years.
@@Bears-Cubs-Cycling perhaps ur right, don't know much about him. His grades are decent but doesn't seem to move needle 2 much.
Far too long the Bears org has been incompetent in front office with poor ownership since end of 85 season, refreshing to see chance this turns around with leadership.
Very accurate assessment of our O-Line to date. I think Shelton will get extended at some point this year. I think he's a legit NFL center to keep around. Would still like JPJ added to sit and learn for a year.
Hope Nate Davis have a better year.
Great vid as usual swifty. May I suggest that your eval of Wright was missing an important fact? Last season as a ROOKIE he had very little support from the right guard. He was on an island in most games. This kid had to consider his guards play at the same time as playing his assignment. Double duty. How many ROOKIES could have done that? Dont get me started on how few chips he saw to support him.
I believe the bears will start Ryan Bates at the Center position
If the line can hold up!!!! 10 picks on the 25th draft!!!! My GOD!!!!! 1 FIRST, 2 , 2nd rounders, 1, 3rd, 1, 4th, 1, 5th and 4, 6 rounders. If Justin's balls out, that will become another 4.
At the end of the year, I think I finally came up with my top three selections for the old line. They aren’t the best 3… Near the best three for where we will pick.
Oregon State. Fuaga
Duke. Graham Barton
Washington. Troy Fontenot.
I think these three guys can play tackle guard or center. Barton can play any position, but not as high ceiling at tackle. Tyler guyton and jc latham are stud guard options
Do you remember how Davis was injured? Fields was pushed into him and he fell on his leg.
Trade back to take JPJ and recoup a day 2 pick.
Do you take JPJ if Alt is there at nine?
We need much better depth on the offensive line, Jenkins has been injured every year, he's proven to me that he can't stay healthy. It's imperative we draft at least one guard in this year's draft. 3 years and 31 games isn't good enough
Either the draft or the second round of free agency, which happens after the draft. We need another guard/center as you say and a swing tackle. The two we have can both go IMO.
I notice you always put Shelton, but every Bears insider says he’ll back up Bates. They say Poles has wanted Bates for a while now, so Shelton seems like the probable backup.🐻⬇️
Oops, responded then as soon as I posted I got to the part of the vid where you mentioned it.😊
I was confused about the same thing
Hiring Shane Waldron and drafting Caleb and lineman with the rest of our picks would be a game changing franchise decide.
Decision.
how many years has it been since OLIN KREUTZ retired and garza was moved to centre.Weve needed to invest in a high draft pick at C since then!
Bear Down y'all ⬇️
Why does Larry Borom look like Ryan Poles 😅😅😅
Hope the new OC draws plays that will help the line perform better. Poles will get more depth in free agency for the O-line. WR and EDGE in draft.
Good job breaking down this offensive line. I am now convinced that the O-Line is currently in better shape than I have previously believed. HOWEVER , the Bears need quality OL depth all the way around. I'm still going to want to see picking an OL early in the draft, but if we come away from draft day with Odunze or Nabors at WR, and a top notch edge rusher, well, all I can say is I can adjust. My disappointment won't be as massive as it could have been. Having a better than average offensive line is still, in my humble opinion, the Bears most glaring need going into the draft. And I do not want to see anything less.
Couldn't agree more!
I’ve been screaming for what feels like a decade that the Bears need to improve their offensive line. I won’t mind any draft capital spent in this area.
I hope we draft a strong IOL center/guard with a take charge personality like Olin.
Still wish we kept James Daniels
Yeah o-line needs lots more talent and younger guys! We can't win championships until line has more 1st and 2nd round picks! GO BEARS AND BEAR DOWN 🐻 ❤❤❤
I love how the "fanboy" in most Bears fans makes them think this line need depth or tweeks...lol. This line needs major reconstruction to quote "Take The North". Quit settling for meritocracy.
Swift does that he’s an extreme optimists. He gives a lot of takes purely from a fan points of view.
For instance when he was breaking down pass rushers the last offseason. He only pointed out the positives. Which is cool but almost none panned out.
This is Chicago! You can give REAL criticism where needed.
He is just too much of a nice guy and a dreamer sometimes.
I appreciate his takes though but real fans know the truth.
Balance out the optimism with cold blooded truth
Meritocracy is EXACTLY what we need...you earn your playing time on merit and performance! I believe you meant mediocrity!
think you meant mediocrity
Mediocrity.
WHAT ABOUT ASKING / GETTING OLIN KREUTZ TO BE ABLE COACHING UP ( BRAXTON JONES &
Yo Swifty not sure you realized or not but you still got JF1 logo in your intro, can't wait to see the new CW logo
Pretty sure it's staying as King Poles
Swift, Joe Alt would change that starting line up.
Like that idea!! 🐻 ⬇️
If Joe Alt was 6 foot 7 I would agree. Honestly, I am scared of Alt a bit. I REALLY like him, but I've never seen a dude who is 6 foot 9 consistently be able to hang with quicker edge rushers. Also worried about the toll on the knees. Its just tough. I think Alt is an elite prospect, but I do have worries.
Jackson Powers Johnson 😁
AGREED🔥🔥
One DE (sweat) injury away from being a trash Dline again, and One Tackle away from having to over compensate and change the Offense and game plan... Now it seems that they need to take a tackle in the 1st if a top 3 WR doesnt fall and they need to trade up for the best 3tech if they have too and draft a DE..
I think people forget G.M's build relationships with other G.M's. so the trade of Fields to the Steelers and the trade of claypool will open doors in the future 💯💯
We already have done poorly twice with our relationship with the Steelers. WTF?
TRENCHES. I kind of think the trenches are just a little bit important.
I had a college coach once tell me that football is won or lost in 3 feet of space. Whoever owns that 3 feet between the O Line and the D line wins the game.
This unit still scares me. Our guards are good players but lack trust in their ability to remain healthy.
I’d feel REAL good if we added an early round young bull to this group.
I love MHJ & Rome but if we could get Alt I say make it happen
They should have kept Peters alot of knowledge there
Wright is HUGE… just going by the picture
Swift you was wrong about Justin but I believe you
I'm just always confused why the Bears offensive live struggle so badly to form push slants like the 49ers or force push into the endzone like last year Eagles. The Bears offense just appeared to have no plays... no trickery no schemes. I felt bad for Fields really.
GOD I hope and pray that Alt drops to us at 9 or MAYBE Poles trades up a few slots for him!! Should be interesting that’s for sure!!
Alt would be awesome but I wouldn't move draft capital for him. I also would trade Braxton if that were the case
@@jackpabich763 If we trade Braxton then Borom is our swing Tackle and he SUCKS!!!! Not trading Braxton cuz we NEED him to become our swing Tackle
Grahm Barton will be a Bear.. I hope! He takes great angles and 2nd level machine. Plays all 5 positions
At what spot in the draft? I'm not taking him in the top 20
I am actually trying to look up. How did Andy Reed fix the oline that got stampede by the Buccaneers in the Superbowl? Mahomes was running for his life.
They cut both tackles. Traded for Orlando Brown. Then drafted Creed Humphry and Trey Smith. Poles was part of it.
@@SwiftSportsNetworkThank you stat guy. But look at that, basically 4 new guys😊
@@SwiftSportsNetworkAND that swift move is exactly what the Bears need... gotta remove the weak link immediately if possible
Bears OL 2023:
#5 Pass-blocking Win Rate
#2 Run-blocking Win Rate
Depth is the issue, but coming.
Shelton only has a one year deal we need another center and we might wanna bring in another guard just in case we end up losing Tj as well as another tackle
Would love to draft an Oline with pick #9. Or if we trade down
If these guys can stay healthy
Couldn’t agree with you more. So are you with me… take Alt if he’s there with number 9?
We need depth chart signs
Swifty, you can’t make a video on the offensive line and not mention any Paaaancakes! I think you should develop a grading scale for o-linemen and rate them with pancakes. 🥞 🥞 🥞 🥞 🥞
We have a glass back at left guard, a bum at right. We must somehow draft JPJ & Taliese Fuaga to set our interior. Otherwise there can be no passing or running game. Poles is a big RAS guy, so you can see who doesn’t belong in his eyes. Shelton is a backup, Davis is a bum.
he had one injury to his back, the other were else where. and even with that was one of the best olinemen on the team.
I'd rather have a "generational" deep OL than a "generational" QB.
Use 2025 picks to trade up and draft Alt. Move Braxton to guard and he would be our swing tackle. Davis and Bates become back-up. Rock Solid - potential top 5 line if wright and Jenkins achieve their potential. This is better use of that draft capital than anything else.
Nate Davis cannot start this season, dude plays with his eyes closed!!
He was going thru some tough personal things last year, let's hope we see the guy who played pretty damn when he was a Titan. I get what you're saying though.
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So basically we have one center. How awful is that? And Mustipher got another job for next season. Why did we cut him and pick up Patrick and Feeney? Center is literally the most important and seems like the least understood
Ryan Bates plays the center position.
They never stay healthy 😮
QB, OT, WR, C,………..DE, DT….
Gonna sign lineman from yale
Would have been nice for Fields… wasted opportunity.
At least when Williams flames out it’ll be because of him and not the talent surrounding him.
BEAR DOWN
Nate davis my boi! Not larry borrom
Haha
Bates is going to start
at what position???
At Center
If we dont improve our oline, we will NOT be able to beat GB. FGB Let’s Go Poles!
Still weak at Center, average LT.... potential studs with Jenkins and Wright and limited depth in three years!
The Bears O-line may crack the top 25 in Pass Block Efficiency next year.
F grade on the O line all 3 years of Poles
2 years. We going into year 3.
@@gilbertlloyd8691 0 projected improvements going into year 3. same old Bears method
@jaycutler118 not true. Center was the issue and right guard depth. He got Coleman and bates who are superior to everything we had. Nate Davis season was bad cause of personal shit and illness. He missed a lot of workouts. He will be fine this coming season. Center is upgraded.
@@jaycutler118the line wasn’t bad it was Fields creating his own pressure, and not knowing how to count the defenders at the line and throw hot reads.
Braxton Jones = WALTER RASBY
WALTER RASBY = Mike Compton
Mike Compton = Braxton Jones
Not Will Shields or Willie Roaf but By GAWD those are good linemen. Jeff Backus vs Steve Hutchinson
I look forward to when Poles finds his pro bowler gem in a late round, like the 49ers have done in the past. Who knows, maybe Bagent will end upngreat somewhere someday.
so a guy can't have a bad year. Plus he had family issues. How any of you'll know plus he's only 27 years 1 bad season and give up. I'm 57 and it's time for bears to start sticking with players and not letting them go.
Whoa. I didn't "Give up on him". I simply compared him to Ryan bates and gave my opinion that Bates is here to be the "insurance policy". Its not "just for Nate" its for Teven Jenkins and Shelton Coleman too.
We need a new LT, I don't care how much you like Braxton Jones, he's a liability not an asset.
Woah there bob , pump your brakes yes he's not elite but give him a chance on year 3 he'll prove you wrong
I am not against an upgrade at Left Tackle, but it has to be the right player. Its an important position.
@@SwiftSportsNetwork Really, it's important, no shit!!! That's why we need a better one. The whole freaking O line is important, the Center HAS to be able to deliver the ball, tit high every freaking time, when have we seen that here in Chicago?? Olin maybe. Jenkins is a Mauler when he's not hurt. Davis blocks his own teammates. Now we have yet another backup half guard center. If the line stays the way it is now Williams won't last till November.
Thank you. Was waiting to see what we truly currently have. The wall for another rookie QB cannot be average... so the oline has got to be solid for this new squad to work
What’s the point of mentioning RAS scores when you are talking about players that have been in the league for several years?
Does anyone really care what a 28 year old’s RAS score was coming out of college?
Athleticism doesn't just "Go away" for pro Athletes. Especially in their prime at age 27.
Nate Davis sucks, and Jenkins is always getting hurt. We need another G AND C.
move jenkins to right tackle and get a bonified left tackle.
RT is literally the least worry on the line. What?
Yeah, what???
What wall are you talking about Swifty? You are delusional. That is more like a big turnstyle! None of the new pieces added so far this year are great, they are average at best! Let's how many sacks and hurries this O-line will give up this year? Maybe go down from 44 sacks allowed to 39 sacks? They will still suck!
It's just a thumbnail dude...did you watch the video? Jeesh man.