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  • Cheap WhetStone vs Shapton Glass Whetstones. Which is sharper?
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  • @Burrfection
    @Burrfection  3 года назад +14

    latest updates and content burrfection.com/
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  • @rominhawk3949
    @rominhawk3949 4 года назад +120

    I love the three cameras showing different angles; very good idea. Thanks for a great presentation.

    • @danielgera1754
      @danielgera1754 3 года назад

      Two cameras with two angles but yeah its creative

    • @billgregson2292
      @billgregson2292 2 года назад +2

      Sharpening is a subject with more options than fleas on a dog. I’m really impressed by how well the camera angles demonstrate the technique used. I also like the presentation of opinions - not dogmatic or dismissive of the cheaper stone. As an entry level option for those new to sharpening knives these are very practical. As knowledge increases and, perhaps people buy better and higher quality knives, the better/more expensive stones may become more desirable. But the cheaper stones will do the job if that’s all you can afford.
      Really good presentation. Thanks for a great video.

  • @spartan117mastrchief
    @spartan117mastrchief 5 лет назад +428

    Am I the only one who finds sharpening blades extremely theraputic? Even just vicariously experiencing it by watching this video was calming lol :')

    • @davidschmidt5533
      @davidschmidt5533 5 лет назад +5

      Reclaimer 117 cut thick cardboard with your knofe at work so you have a reason to sharpen it rather than swapping razor blades

    • @beanboozle9016
      @beanboozle9016 5 лет назад +13

      A lot of razor sharp knives around my house when i get stressed.

    • @djsickmick
      @djsickmick 5 лет назад +7

      I can totally get lost when sharpening. It balances my Chi. A dull knife needing sharpening is my guide tool leading me to a path toward clarity.

    • @beckysims9532
      @beckysims9532 4 года назад +6

      I'm female and I love tools period. I cut grass with shears for stress relief and love sharpening my blades. Just now learning whet stone and maybe learn to sharpen with metal stick thingy I know it has a name. Thanks for videos and yes it's very therapeutic 😊
      Also it's sort of instant gratification.

    • @Troy-Echo
      @Troy-Echo 4 года назад +4

      For a non-professional, I've always had a knack for getting an extremely sharp edge. It's calming and therapeutic for sure! Pressure washing cement with a surface cleaner or soft wash cleaning a roof is the same thing for me. It's an ugly to beautiful transition.

  • @Lorendrawn
    @Lorendrawn 5 лет назад +194

    I love how he has a sharpening and a dull-ening stone.

    • @soop8665
      @soop8665 4 года назад +4

      Lorendrawn jack of all trades

    • @channelpolitica1364
      @channelpolitica1364 4 года назад +9

      The ‘“dullen-ing” stone is just a brick!

    • @AnUnknownPlayer.
      @AnUnknownPlayer. 3 года назад +4

      @@channelpolitica1364 wow no shit! Its almost like op was making a joke. You spastic.

    • @joebenson528
      @joebenson528 3 года назад +2

      @@AnUnknownPlayer.
      I don't think you know what "spastic" means. Just reminded me of Biden saying "look fat here's the deal" 😂

    • @mattrondeau7466
      @mattrondeau7466 2 года назад +3

      There are dulling stones? I knew it. They must have sent me dulling stones instead of sharpening stones.

  • @flyingsquirrel9996
    @flyingsquirrel9996 5 лет назад +21

    Great comparison between an expensive stone and a budget stone. I’ve been looking into buying a whet stone to sharpen my knives but I didn’t want to spend a bunch of money. It’s good to know that a cheaper stone will still get the job done.

  • @TrungLeNOLA
    @TrungLeNOLA 7 лет назад +934

    I don't understand the people with comments saying videos are too long. You know there's a slider in the time bar that you can forward right? Btw, great videos and keep up the good work. Very informative! Thanks!

    • @Burrfection
      @Burrfection  7 лет назад +74

      hahah. thanks Trung, it's funny, isn't it? the video could be 5 minutes, and someone will still say it could be shorter.

    • @yesdeere1376
      @yesdeere1376 7 лет назад +56

      TrungLeNOLA people looking to get instant gratification should probably not be getting into whetstones anyway.
      Not really a suitable hobby for impatience.

    • @monkehm
      @monkehm 6 лет назад +25

      Because the vast majority of the video is him sharpening the knife, but if I fast forward through the whole thing, how much useful information am I missing? If I'm watching a video to compare a budget stone to a Shapton, I care about the results, not watching him do every single stroke, but if he's also giving useful information in between strokes, I HAVE to watch the entire thing. This is not efficient use of time in an informative video, and if I wanted ASMR I would go somewhere else.

    • @Smokey420Greenleaf
      @Smokey420Greenleaf 6 лет назад +18

      lol i find the people who complain about videos being "too long" are simpletons at best, and often wonder how the hell they make it through each episode of their favorite TV show little lone a feature length movie.

    • @Smokey420Greenleaf
      @Smokey420Greenleaf 6 лет назад +14

      @monkehm: if you dont enjoy sitting through his videos from beginning to end, perhaps you should find something to watch more in line with your intelligence/ADHD level. It's not his fault that you have the patience and attention span of a gnat... that's a personal problem on your end and you shouldn't whine at him like it's his fault. A lot of us actually ENJOY watching longer videos from beginning to end.

  • @dizzy897
    @dizzy897 5 лет назад +22

    Skills not tools that’s probably my favorite quote when it comes to knife sharpening

    • @stallion63m35
      @stallion63m35 5 лет назад

      Also,the person using the tools.🙂

  • @MrVangassen
    @MrVangassen 5 лет назад +284

    20 worth stone in hands of a master will perform better than expensive stuff in hands of an average folk.

    • @deivytrajan
      @deivytrajan 4 года назад +16

      That's why as a beginner I bought cheap stones

    • @guille_snapshooter
      @guille_snapshooter 4 года назад +5

      Trajan and a cheap knife, you don’t want to scratch the expensive one

    • @thenjdevil5102
      @thenjdevil5102 4 года назад

      True

    • @bhoard3791
      @bhoard3791 4 года назад +3

      But the point is for the same skill how different does one perform against another

    • @ryujinjakka4518
      @ryujinjakka4518 4 года назад +4

      MrVangassen agreed, I have the pebble whetstone and I watched tons of videos on how to sharpen a blade with it from outdoors55 and a few other you tubers. Still didn’t help me though, in my opinion using a whetstone to sharpen a blade is pretty tough. Takes a lot of experience unless you’re very good at eyeballing angles.

  • @Ranos17
    @Ranos17 3 года назад +3

    Thanks for this video, as someone who is looking to get into sharpening to improve my cooking experience, this budget stone looks like exactly what I was looking for and your approach has given me a much more trustworthy review than I could find anywhere else! I appreciate that your channel has content for both newbies and more experienced folk.

  • @TubeDeviant
    @TubeDeviant 3 года назад +5

    Glad to hear..!!
    I just got a set of sharpening stones from Amazon for $50. The set included 400/1000, and 3000/8000 grit stones. Also came with base, gloves, angle tool, instructions, a $10 amazon gift card IF you leave a review after using the stones, and leveling stone.
    My first set of stones and just learning how to sharpen so this video is reassuring. Of course, I guess the brand of stone is different, so time will tell. It should be a good way to learn and hone.

  • @robertmason2076
    @robertmason2076 4 года назад +7

    First sharpening video I’ve ever actually been captivated by from start to finish.
    Nice work.

  • @ethanhassell4181
    @ethanhassell4181 6 лет назад +1

    I'm new to hand sharpening and just bought the budget stone from your video. I'm feeling quite pleasantly surprised and happy now! Thanks!

  • @dyerflips1991
    @dyerflips1991 6 лет назад +119

    I prefer longer videos. Without editing. It helps show the whole process and everything you did

  • @repuSgnikcuf
    @repuSgnikcuf 4 года назад +10

    Thank you for this video, I am starting out learning, I have tried about 5 other people's "techniques" and they don't feel natural to me.
    This video just boosted my skills by 10x. Thank you! (I have the cheap stone) still a lot to learn, before I could justify the expense of a better stone. But it gives me confidence I could sharpen some of my "nicer" knives.
    Great video.

  • @lostbuffalo196
    @lostbuffalo196 3 года назад

    I just found your channel while searching for instructional video re: knife sharpening. This was exactly what I needed to see and answered several questions I had. Excellent job and THANK YOU.

  • @sagerman6779
    @sagerman6779 6 лет назад +2

    Love this video! I really appreciate taking the time to show me the whole process. Great job!

  • @bladedge123
    @bladedge123 3 года назад +3

    3 years later.. still as satisfying as the day it was uploaded.

  • @Airik1111bibles
    @Airik1111bibles 7 лет назад +154

    Very good camera angles, sometimes watching and learning is difficult cause all you see is one camera direction, I love this format. I have lots of bushcrafting outdoor knives with Scandinavian grinds which need to be sharpened on stones, so learning how is so important. I've slowly gotten better and need better stones, its weird because its not just sight but feel and sound all in one, nice stones sound great.😉 Great videos man thanks for sharing these.

    • @Burrfection
      @Burrfection  7 лет назад +15

      right on . thanks for watching and commenting. really appreciate it

  • @totally_not_a_bot
    @totally_not_a_bot 6 лет назад

    I appreciate this sort of apples to apples comparison of things. I also appreciate the camera setup you have that allows me to look over your shoulder from afar, so to speak.
    It's nice to know that I can get away with spending not very much money to have good results. 80% is more than sufficient, and does seem to prove that the last bit of precision is truly the most expensive. Thank you!

  • @TUser24
    @TUser24 5 лет назад

    As a new sharpener guy, I am very happy with your video. This was exactly what I needed to know. Thank you for a great job providing information!!

  • @mickeyableman2306
    @mickeyableman2306 4 года назад +12

    I'm amazed how your muscle memory allows the same angle so effortlessly with each stroke!

    • @Jason.F.
      @Jason.F. 4 года назад +5

      Lots of practice stroking it I suppose.

    • @bibbabibba1975
      @bibbabibba1975 4 года назад +5

      I, too, am a master at stroking my blade

  • @RogiervanVlissingen
    @RogiervanVlissingen 7 лет назад +32

    These videos are just so much fun... to begin with, I ended up sharpening everything from my Sabatier kitchen knives, to some MAC knives to more ordinary knives. It was long overdue, thanks for the inspiration. Next stop will be getting some better whetstones.

    • @Burrfection
      @Burrfection  7 лет назад +7

      thanks for watching. stay in touch

    • @Nurg1982
      @Nurg1982 6 лет назад +6

      I agree, Ryky inspires to sharpen your knives :D

  • @arianewell6252
    @arianewell6252 5 лет назад

    Wow. I am impressed that I could actually hear the difference in the cutting efficiency. So cool.

  • @tlovdl
    @tlovdl 2 года назад +1

    Hello, I'm a grinding stone manufacturer from Brazil, I've been studying and watching a lot of sharping videos so I can develop good cost/benefits product to this knives sharpening market. I notice that lot of people are afraid to say that sometimes cheap and expensive stones fell the same way, I did some density testes over king stones and other brands they were pretty much the same

  • @austinfarr3296
    @austinfarr3296 6 лет назад +365

    You sharpened a knife to razor sharpness on a brick sooo I going to guess no. The cheap one is fine.

    • @stormchaser8472
      @stormchaser8472 4 года назад +7

      i literally sharpened razor blades on concrete floors before

    • @johnjeffy4895
      @johnjeffy4895 4 года назад +8

      That's like comparing copper to gold, both will conduct electricity but gold hold much more value.

    • @juangonzalez9848
      @juangonzalez9848 4 года назад +8

      John Jeffy
      But gold is far too malleable to be used as a conductor in wiring.

    • @johnjeffy4895
      @johnjeffy4895 4 года назад +18

      @@juangonzalez9848 Point taken, However i Never mentioned Wires.. I was Stating the potential for electrical conductivity between the two. Don't kill the messenger without reading the message...

    • @ScarletFlames1
      @ScarletFlames1 4 года назад +5

      @@juangonzalez9848 Ackshually, malleability has nothing to do with why gold wires are not used in wiring. In fact, some industrial applications desire gold wiring instead of copper tracings in circuit boards, there's places where you can buy EXTREMELY fine gold wiring for pressing into a circuit board sandwich in place of the usual copper.
      But in the case of, say, power cable for your PC? You will need roughly the same weight of gold in the cable as in a regular one, roughly 85% of the weight in a normal cable in gold is a whole lot of gold, so you COULD buy that 2 meter standard socket cable for 200$.. But would you?

  • @scottmarshall6766
    @scottmarshall6766 4 года назад +5

    If I was cutting a $1000 piece of tuna, I'd absolutely go Shaptons (and a better knife) but for the average kitchen user, the $40 combo will out perform 90+% of home kitchen setups out there.
    Like anything, there's "enthusiasts" (like us) who enjoy the process, and can appreciate the feel and extra 10-20% end result. Worth the price, I'd say it depends on the user. I know people who spend $400 on a pen because they like how it feels. It's a personal satisfaction thing.
    I just ordered a Sharp Pebble contoured stone for gouges etc, and was kind of concerned it may be too soft to do a good job. Your test makes me feel better about the $40 purchase.
    How about a Roo vs Horse leather for stropping test? (or something similar) One opinion is the Roo is so much denser and thinner it doesn't roll around the edge and re-dull it. I'm fixing to drop $100+ on a stropping system and am leaning Roo.
    Video length is fine, the naysayers must have forgot the fast forward, I personally want to hear what you have to say while sharpening. You have a new sub.
    Great video!
    PS - just found your store, will be shopping there as well.

  • @cldavis33
    @cldavis33 5 лет назад +1

    Sooooo.....I hate long videos, but I have learned EVERYTHING I know about sharpeningn knives from Burrific. Three years on a King and now I have a Chosera 3000. I watched every minute of this thing and saw all the little subtle thing he does, checking the burr, the angles of the blade to stone. Sometimes, you need a full on too long show me everything video. THANK YOU for spending time with us Burrific!

  • @endoplasreh
    @endoplasreh 5 лет назад

    Thanks for what you do. I am just getting into stone sharpening and, oddly, I picked up the same budget stone before I saw this video. I am not looking for perfection so it is good to know that the stone I intend to use will at least sharpen my knives adequately. Thanks again. I enjoy watching your videos.

  • @TheFridge0x
    @TheFridge0x 6 лет назад +7

    I really love the sound of knives on whetstones, very soothing.

  • @jamessantimarino2402
    @jamessantimarino2402 3 года назад +7

    For those who don't want to get a lapping/flattening stone, you can always use some sand paper on a flat cutting board or something. Just mark the stone with a pencil.

    • @TylrVncnt
      @TylrVncnt Год назад

      Just probably gonna end up cutting into the paper unless you only use trailing strokes, which will not only be sooo much slower but really limits a huge asset in the art of sharpening (the forward stroke)

    • @jamessantimarino2402
      @jamessantimarino2402 Год назад

      @@TylrVncnt I specified a lapping stone, like one that is intended only for flattening your sharpening stone. Not using the sand paper to sharpen the blades.

  • @EtchyLives
    @EtchyLives 4 года назад +2

    First off, love your approach to these videos. I'm an amateur enthusiast interested in sharpening. I have a history of spending crazy money on new hobbies and I like your philosophy. So I bought an entry level 400/1000 Pebble Stone sharpening set to set an edge on my budget chefs knives. Keep it up and if this continues... Your new Burrfection knives look awesome.

  • @nicholassenterfeit8126
    @nicholassenterfeit8126 2 года назад

    I appreciate seeing the entire sharpening process you show here. Helps me visually see how it’s done while I learn on some cheap knives. I’m on a DMT Diamond Fine at the moment, but the Shaptons look great too. Thanks for the vid mate.

  • @kimehunt4501
    @kimehunt4501 5 лет назад +7

    I have the Sharp Pebble 1000/6000 in my kitchen where it's used on half a dozen knives weekly. It's money well spent. I need to flatten it every month or so, but for a stone that get's this much use it's held up well.

    • @jonmanilenio
      @jonmanilenio 5 лет назад +6

      how do you flatten it?

    • @ryanwallis298
      @ryanwallis298 5 лет назад +1

      geez how much are you taking off the edges that you need to flatten them every month, must be buying a new knife every 6 months as you have run out of blade to sharpen.

    • @einundsiebenziger5488
      @einundsiebenziger5488 9 месяцев назад

      ... that gets* (third person, no apostrophe!)

  • @georgecadeddu8628
    @georgecadeddu8628 7 лет назад +134

    "Didn't blow this stone out of the water" that's almost funny

  • @jamesdaniel1987
    @jamesdaniel1987 6 лет назад

    Just ordered this 400/1000 sharp pebble to sharpen my kitchen and pocket knives...thanks for the great videos

  • @shawnphillips2556
    @shawnphillips2556 3 года назад +1

    Fantastic editing with multiple camera angles. No cuts. Very engaging 👍🏻👍🏻

  • @trytea
    @trytea 4 года назад +29

    This should be re-titled "Knife Sharpening ASMR"

  • @joss5251
    @joss5251 5 лет назад +5

    WHY WAS THIS VIDEO SOOOO RELAXING.

  • @Furrycheetopuff
    @Furrycheetopuff 5 лет назад

    I would like to let you know that your videos so far have helped me become a better sharpener thank you

  • @apodis4900
    @apodis4900 4 года назад

    Awesome, love the different camera angles. Thanks. 😀

  • @cryptnotic
    @cryptnotic 5 лет назад +37

    So, 80-20 rule. You can get 80% of the performance for about 20% of the time/cost. Sounds about right. Geez, it's like almost a law of physics.

    • @scottcrawford3745
      @scottcrawford3745 5 лет назад +17

      Law of Diminishing Return: The higher amount of money you spend beyond a certain point, where you have achieved acceptable performance/ effectiveness, the incrementally less improvement you can reasonably expect. i.e. Subaru STI = very fast, moderately expensive car. Ferrari 458 = lots more money to achieve only a moderate level of improvement. Bugatti Chiron = Insane expense, but again... only a bit more ( relatively ) useful performance, for an awful lot of money. a $600 Shapton 30,000 grit purple stone is a beautiful thing, but once it's sharp, beyond a certain point, will anyone notice the difference but you ? Or Nakayama Maruka Natural Honyama stone... $2000 +... will your sushi taste any better ?

    • @jeffreychampion1
      @jeffreychampion1 4 года назад +2

      Pereto principal

    • @RobbieT015
      @RobbieT015 3 года назад +1

      and buy a leather strop and you will get it too 100%

  • @elkmeat3679
    @elkmeat3679 6 лет назад +6

    I think you can skip to 21:30 for the conclusion, but I understand why he would include all the footage. It's a very fair test. Good vid, bud.

  • @flashcraft
    @flashcraft 5 лет назад +2

    Really great comparison. I have the Sharp Pebble 3000/8000 stone but I'm still a newbie. Thanks for your expert review.

  • @robertmacdonald9970
    @robertmacdonald9970 4 года назад

    Exceptionally well done videos!
    I’m new to having an interest in knives.
    Thank you for sharing your obvious knowledge regarding sharpening and various priced stones.
    Keep up the great work sharing!

  • @JavaRacingCo
    @JavaRacingCo 7 лет назад +28

    Great review!
    I'd love to see more budget amazon sharpeners! I'm looking trying to decide on one of these king kw-65 , sharp pebble, taidea 3000 8000 (red lobster)

    • @Burrfection
      @Burrfection  7 лет назад +7

      working on it

    • @dks9564
      @dks9564 6 лет назад

      .

    • @dks9564
      @dks9564 6 лет назад +1

      dks9564
      1 second ago
      I've had one of the King 6000 HT-43/S-45 for about 18 months and it's held up great. No complaints at all. For a roughly $20 stone, it's really surprised me with it's quality. I build furniture as a hobby and use it as a final hone for plane irons and chisels, so it sees a bit of use. I do have better stones, but for the money, you can't beat it.

    • @Nettechnologist
      @Nettechnologist 4 года назад

      Burrfection needs to put some affiliate links to that stone

  • @stefanmajonez6571
    @stefanmajonez6571 5 лет назад +5

    Dry-sharpening my kitchen knives on the bottoms of ceramic cups made my knives as sharp as I needed them most of the time, so I'll just get the $20 stone :D

    • @phill3583
      @phill3583 4 года назад

      Coffee mug bottom, then the back of a belt=razor sharp.

    • @knezivan1
      @knezivan1 4 года назад

      @@phill3583 i want a video of that

  • @syedakbar77
    @syedakbar77 4 года назад

    I loved it, but i realized the difference in sharpening by the sound which came out in the end. Thanks for helping newbies and promoting the hobby among the newbies

  • @Iris-1503
    @Iris-1503 3 года назад +1

    i can not explain to you how much i have learned about technique by just watching his movements in this video

  • @vitorgoncalves7527
    @vitorgoncalves7527 4 года назад +47

    Me:
    RUclips: Here are some knife sharpening videos you might like.
    Me: Ok... Thanks?

  • @Romulas67
    @Romulas67 6 лет назад +4

    Where is the 20$ "knife you speak of, I see a 55 $one, any help much appreciated, already have both stones that I've purchased for sharpening wood planes and chisels..

  • @khyron8509
    @khyron8509 3 года назад

    I just found your channel and as someone who is just getting into sharpening I like your no nonsense approach to it all ! I would dearly love to spend big bucks on stones but I don't feel I can justify it while I'm at the learning stage but that said I will continue to watch your channel to hopefully improve my skills ! Thank you for your content I look forward to more !

  • @thomasgilbert9347
    @thomasgilbert9347 7 лет назад +1

    Thank you for having the demonstration of the 3M micron products.

  • @tomriddle2257
    @tomriddle2257 6 лет назад +23

    Is there a video comparing cheap vs expensive at higher grids like 3000/8000? That would also be extremely interesting!

    • @TheGar393
      @TheGar393 5 лет назад +1

      The only difference is technique and because his technique is so good there is no difference in sharpness accept at a level the naked eye wouldn't be able to see. The brick's aren't a limiting factor in the slightest. You can tell by watching the brick sharpening video.

  • @JimmysTheBestCop
    @JimmysTheBestCop 7 лет назад +7

    Damn I was just about to go to bed. Now I can't. Bless You

  • @Nickrioblanco1
    @Nickrioblanco1 6 лет назад +1

    Great work! Your objectivity and honesty is refreshing.

  • @edclevel402
    @edclevel402 5 лет назад

    Camera angles are terrific, and the layout is perfect. Great production value!

  • @mr.pizzamarlon
    @mr.pizzamarlon 6 лет назад +3

    This is better than an ASMR video and very informative. By any chance, have you ever sharpened the sword for Samarai Jack?

  • @Flavius-Tech
    @Flavius-Tech 5 лет назад +4

    Question: Can you level a wetstone with another wetstone? :)

  • @thermitebanana
    @thermitebanana 3 года назад +1

    I just listened to this while I was working. Really balanced my mood. Would work as a podcast

  • @V8cars2
    @V8cars2 5 лет назад

    Super good informative video !
    i almost decided to get a tablr grinder and you just made me rethink it.

  • @Revelatus
    @Revelatus 6 лет назад +6

    When you were stropping on the budget stone, it looks like you are setting the angle on the left side of the knife much steeper than on the right side (knife is almost flat on the stone when pulling towards you, spine leading). Are you putting a single sided bevel or is this just an optical illusion? Sorry if you explained this, I skipped through a bunch of the video.

  • @craigme3014
    @craigme3014 4 года назад +59

    one knife had 21 strokes on the brick.
    just saying.

    • @robertmason2076
      @robertmason2076 4 года назад

      How so? He picked up the knives from opposite sides of the water before the brick.

    • @JHV166
      @JHV166 3 года назад

      Riki is well known for his ability to miscount...lol

    • @JB-xl2jc
      @JB-xl2jc 3 года назад

      The EXPERIMENT is RUINED

  • @MidniteClubII
    @MidniteClubII 5 лет назад +1

    RIGHT ON R! I like thwe way you use the 3 angle views! Great work dude

  • @Tonyplat98
    @Tonyplat98 2 года назад

    This is the video that I watched a couple of years ago it was maybe 2018 that made me purchase my first set of sharpening stones, sadly I did go the budget way at first well long story short I now own sharpton glass stones and a bunch of Chosera stones and I could not go back to shrpening any other way. It's almost become like a hobby of mine to keep all the knives sharp in the kithen. Everyone's happy I have cince purchased some very good quality knives as well I have the miyabi birchwood knives and some other japanese very good knives but the point that I'm trying to make is that it's thanks to you Ricky you're the one started me on this journey and I could not thank you enough. Thanks for everything that you do and keep up the great job!!!

  • @immk9988
    @immk9988 7 лет назад +6

    Super cool channel - I've been enjoying your videos. So for the budget-conscious beginner to home sharpening, Sharp Pebble 400/1000 OR King KDS 1000/6000? I.e., when is the courser grit of the Sharp more useful than the polishing capabilities of the King? Does the hardness or my knives influence your recommendation? Or in my ignorance, am I asking the wrong questions?

    • @Burrfection
      @Burrfection  7 лет назад +6

      hahha. no such thing as ignorant questions when they are honest. hmmm. IF you have knives that are fairly soft, and you aren't going to be sharpening them once a week, go with the Pebble. it'll be more useful to you.

    • @immk9988
      @immk9988 7 лет назад +3

      Thank you for the guidance! And for a follow-up question: You often talk about sharpening your knives every day/ every other day/ once a week, etc. Could you please clarify this guidance - is this assuming you use your knife intensely every day (i.e. a professional) or is this frequency of sharpening also intended for home cooks who use their knife only a few times a week?

    • @Burrfection
      @Burrfection  7 лет назад +7

      i generally sharpen once a week. when i sharpening once a day, it's usually a 1-2 minute touchup of a knife that i'm testing. but for my personal knives, once a week or once every other week keeps them razor sharp. for both stones, i would not use them on anything with an HRC rating of 60 or above. if you do, the knife will simply take longer to sharpen, though you can do it. for more knives i personally in interested in buying should have at least a 59 HRC rating. anything less, will require a touch up every 3-4 days, and for me, i simply cannot afford that time.

    • @immk9988
      @immk9988 7 лет назад

      Awesome - thank you! Currently, my only large knife is a Zwilling Pro. It's okay, but has a lower HRC - 58 I think. I'm looking to get my first japanese knife, and am particularly interested in one with R2 steel for its stainless-ness and higher HRC compared to VG10. I'd be curious to know your thoughts or see one in an upcoming video (I hear Takamura is a good brand).

  • @Lars1540
    @Lars1540 6 лет назад +3

    Burrfection- you need to address the bolster on knives like the kuma. If you don't grind them, you will eventually end up developing a recurve in the blade directly in front of the bolster. This will cause the bolster to make contact with the board and not the blade, essentially rendering the knife useless for chopping. You would then be left with an oversized paring knife! Lol

    • @Burrfection
      @Burrfection  6 лет назад +2

      ruclips.net/video/zaqzrqHn2l8/видео.html

    • @Lars1540
      @Lars1540 6 лет назад +1

      Thank you very much Ryky. Btw, I just watched and commented on your budget $20 knife showdown video and realized you had addressed exactly what I was talking about in my comment with regards to a recurve forming in the blade in front of the bolster when you spoke about the bolster in the Kuma knife and how you stated you don't like knives with bolsters. Lol. So disregard my last comment hehe. I'm stoked to pick up a Mercer Millennia now. Thanks for the link, I'm gonna go watch the video now!

    • @Lars1540
      @Lars1540 6 лет назад

      Oh, just went to the link and realized it's the video I was just referring to. Sorry I thought you were providing me with the link to the video where you spoke about why you don't flatten your sharpening stones any longer. If you can give me the link to that video I would greatly appreciate it.

  • @jthepickle7
    @jthepickle7 4 года назад

    I've been using budget stones for years but got a Shapton 15,000 grit when I took up shaving with a straight razor. I'm glad to hear you say you aren't big on flattening stones, the Shapton was already thin out of the box!

  • @sethadam4266
    @sethadam4266 6 лет назад +3

    Didn't think I would like this video, but I found the results entertaining, thanks.

    • @Burrfection
      @Burrfection  6 лет назад

      welcome and thanks for the input!

  • @freakga
    @freakga 3 года назад +16

    Me, I'm not really in the mood tonight Honey.
    My Wife, We can have knife sharpening videos playing in the background.
    Me, Lock the door.

  • @christinamichelle2830
    @christinamichelle2830 7 лет назад +7

    wish I had spent a little more than $23 for a 1000/6000 whet stone. Mine isn't without a lot of flaws, mostly voids on the surface and then it is uneven. Shame on me for not buying a sink bridge and stone holder. :-/

    • @Burrfection
      @Burrfection  7 лет назад +6

      hmmm. well, just save up and spend your money on the right stone and accessories later. until then, just use a brick as a base and a towel in between to keep it stable. if you ever feel like it, check out this list, kit.com/Burrfection/knife-kit, and you'll see every item i use to make my sharpening kit.

  • @t.k.-s.4212
    @t.k.-s.4212 3 года назад

    just started getting into knife sharpeners and really want to go with whetstones. Thanks for the comparison!

  • @TK-gz2sl
    @TK-gz2sl 5 лет назад

    I find this to be a pleasant ASMR video. The sound of a knife beeing sharpened is quite soothing.

  • @herculesloadmaster5944
    @herculesloadmaster5944 6 лет назад +3

    Much shallower angle pushing vs pulling

  • @tbsbattousai
    @tbsbattousai 6 лет назад +24

    this could be a little controversial but I'd like to see a Dalstrong German steel knife Vs a Dalstrong Japanese steel knife to see which is the better steel....

    • @chonkywater6129
      @chonkywater6129 6 лет назад

      Oh

    • @EvenTheDogAgrees
      @EvenTheDogAgrees 6 лет назад +5

      Which in the end would still not tell you which country makes the superior steel, of that's what you're after. Because the choice of steel revolves around more than just quality. It has to do with availability, price, manufacturing costs (e.g. how much wear will your tooling see, does it require particular hardening/tempering processes), ...
      Also, there's no such thing as "the best steel". Steel has various properties, and depending on your intended application, and even personal tastes or the way you use the knife, some properties will carry more weight than others.
      That said: I agree. A comparison would be interesting. :)

    • @melgibson6331
      @melgibson6331 6 лет назад

      Juan Rial take 10 from each country in the most common styles that match one another and then torture test them.

    • @lyleswavel320
      @lyleswavel320 5 лет назад

      We destroyed their steel factories during ww2, Japan has some of the most up to date steel mills on the planet

  • @caiusloius
    @caiusloius 7 лет назад

    Wow, thanks for the advices, that is really helpful! Keep up the good work!

  • @rlwalker2
    @rlwalker2 4 года назад

    Love the information. Especially since I'm about to get a good (?) stone. One thing for certain, whether it ends up being a good or a so-so stone, I'll know how to go through the motions of sharpening. Keep up the good work.

  • @LadyCroMag
    @LadyCroMag 6 лет назад +6

    I like this guy!!! He is reputably Asian, and he is very sharp!!!

    • @rlwalker2
      @rlwalker2 4 года назад

      As are his knives. lol

  • @DGinNC
    @DGinNC 6 лет назад +11

    Your forward angle seems much steeper than your pulling angle, it could be an optical apparition, but just something I've noticed.

  • @rubenvasquez2590
    @rubenvasquez2590 4 года назад

    thanks! i was finding for this exact answer, and you delivered perfectly

  • @judekirby4535
    @judekirby4535 5 лет назад

    Great video! I just read this article on Healthy Kitchen 101 where they gave very strong recommendations for the Sharp Pebble, to which I was indifferent because it’s so cheap. Boy I was so wrong to judge a stone by its price!

  • @johnthurman4101
    @johnthurman4101 5 лет назад +7

    7:20 dragging your ring across the stone probably didn’t do your ring any good

  • @bulasturubula3660
    @bulasturubula3660 6 лет назад +57

    Title should be 1$ brick vs $20whetstone vs $150 shapton

    • @weeverob
      @weeverob 5 лет назад +2

      the brick was used to dull the knife.

    • @corynorell3686
      @corynorell3686 5 лет назад

      @@weeverob Different video.

    • @yxzyzzyx434
      @yxzyzzyx434 5 лет назад +1

      Rob Weaver r/whooosh

    • @Drewsky840
      @Drewsky840 4 года назад

      I actually bought a stone at a dollar store and got my knife to shaving sharp.

  • @Goetterdaemmerung86
    @Goetterdaemmerung86 3 года назад

    I ordered a couple sharp pebble stones as I am on a budget and am a beginner, should've done more research honestly, and I was worried, I really appreciate this video, thanks.

  • @Dualitiy
    @Dualitiy 6 лет назад

    I thought I'd just end up skipping through the video to get as much info as soon as possible.
    But the video is really relaxing. Apparently it's nice to see someone calmly talking while concentrating on a working process.

    • @joshbaker2157
      @joshbaker2157 6 лет назад +1

      Out of the hundred videos I just watched, I thought I would be skipping too... I think the way the video was put together in the beginning helped me stay longer throughout with his calm demeanor later.

  • @balbes1165
    @balbes1165 5 лет назад +3

    Why you used so coarse grit? Why not 1000/6000 $20 stone?

    • @davidschmidt5533
      @davidschmidt5533 5 лет назад +1

      Balbes Balbes probably because he ran it through a brick 20 times. Need something course to straighten that out.

  • @codyedis2955
    @codyedis2955 6 лет назад +27

    Anyone else notice that at 6:16 he said he was doing 10 strokes and he only did eight

  • @lesleymunro4964
    @lesleymunro4964 6 лет назад

    Thank you for this video! I'm looking at getting a sharpening stone to sharpen my kitchen knives, and I found this video while looking for a review of cheap sharpening stones. I found this very informative, especially you showing the technique you use to sharpen knives. I learned a lot watching this. I'm going to buy a cheap 400/1000 stone just to get started. I don't need super sharp, just sharp enough for food prep. Thanks for your very informative video.

    • @Burrfection
      @Burrfection  6 лет назад

      hey Lesley, spend as little or as much as you wish. i got a knife PRETTY sharp on a brick from my backyard ruclips.net/video/qoEZI82-M_k/видео.html

  • @crissignori7482
    @crissignori7482 4 года назад

    First rate demonstration video... Thank you Ryky!

  • @Flakka-
    @Flakka- 4 года назад +21

    Dulling the knives hurts my soul so much. I always have to skip that part of knife videos

    • @pr3nzlb3rg3r
      @pr3nzlb3rg3r 4 года назад +2

      Your profile pic makes me so mad.

    • @Flakka-
      @Flakka- 4 года назад +3

      @@pr3nzlb3rg3r Lol I get like 5 comments about this each week :D Fell for it myself a few years ago, had to pay it forward :D

    • @10010Linus
      @10010Linus 4 года назад +4

      @@pr3nzlb3rg3r people who don't use dark mode makes me mad

  • @malcolm_in_the_middle
    @malcolm_in_the_middle 4 года назад +7

    I really hated it when you pulled the knives on the brick.

  • @miles5107
    @miles5107 5 лет назад +1

    I’m so glad to find this video! I went with cheaper stones, and was wondering if I should have spent more. But for 40? Knife and 400/1000 is good enough. Toss in another 30 or so, and 3000/8000 is doable. All for less than one Shapton, (though those are better stones).

  • @fishandwildlife1648
    @fishandwildlife1648 2 года назад

    You have great videos. I'm just starting out and you are so easy to understand and very educational. Thank you. Keep it sharp.

  • @dougswaby575
    @dougswaby575 7 лет назад +3

    have you ever tried Arkansas stones?

    • @damonrogers5978
      @damonrogers5978 7 лет назад

      second that. do you use oil stones?

    • @Burrfection
      @Burrfection  7 лет назад +1

      real briefly, and was not a fan for sharpening . maybe for polishing they are fine. i'll try to pick up another set and do a long term review on them

    • @Burrfection
      @Burrfection  7 лет назад +4

      i personally don't, just because of the mess. but i have been sent some and i'll be doing more in depth reviews on them

    • @dougswaby575
      @dougswaby575 7 лет назад +1

      I was just curious because I have grown up using them and from your reviews of wetstones I really think the wetstones might be a lot better but at the same time I have not seen a side by side comparison. Right now I am sharpening for other people and I use a tsprof sharpening system made in Russia, I use boride stones to sharpen the bevel and Arkansas stones with soapy water to polish.

    • @kl27x
      @kl27x 6 лет назад

      IME, it's the opposite. Waterstones are better for polishing, by design. Hard sintered stone like novaculite or ceramic are better for making accurate flats and more versatile at producing an edge/apex. Even if it's super fine, a ceramic or true hard ark will "scratch up" the side of a knife it you get the knife too shallow, because that part of your knife isn't perfectly flat; and the stone can't reach into the very shallow low spots to blend in those scratches. A waterstone will come in handy to polish that out. If you want to see how flat the waterstone is getting the back of your chisel, for instance, take it to hard ceramic or true hard ark, and this will reveal the low spots that the waterstone was covering up. Then you can take it back to waterstone to polish it up, again, because it's flat enough.

  • @BubuSnow93
    @BubuSnow93 6 лет назад +50

    Why am I watching this, I barely cook and when I do I use ceramic knives

    • @Burrfection
      @Burrfection  6 лет назад +44

      welcome

    • @RedfishInc
      @RedfishInc 5 лет назад +8

      Ceramic knives dull as well, they just take a bit longer.

    • @M40A5
      @M40A5 5 лет назад +2

      Because it's interesting, probably.

    • @Crazt
      @Crazt 5 лет назад +3

      I used to have a few ceramic knives. I liked them for their corrosion resistance, and minimal maintenance requirements. I realized after a few years the draw back was I would have to buy a new one every few years.

    • @TheDarkToes
      @TheDarkToes 5 лет назад

      I dont see why you can't just sharpen the ceramic knife instead of buying a new one.

  • @Herr2Cents
    @Herr2Cents 5 лет назад

    Thank you, I just got the pebble today and look forward to starting off with my inexpensive knives.

    • @Burrfection
      @Burrfection  5 лет назад

      be patient. have fun. learn the stone

  • @TheSlickIzzy
    @TheSlickIzzy 4 года назад +1

    I learned a few things watching this.
    1. I use my whetstone whey too dry. Lol I just thought soak it and go. 2. I don't hold my knife flat enough. 3. I don't strop afterwards and 4. The sound of a knife sharpening is very relaxing. I nodded off a few times and had to rewind. 😁

  • @jamesn9221
    @jamesn9221 4 года назад +5

    When you cut that paper I creamed my pants so hard from the satisfaction the sound brought

  • @ultorgv3773
    @ultorgv3773 6 лет назад +4

    I get that budget stone for even cheaper, I get it at the super market for$5 😂👌

    • @melgibson6331
      @melgibson6331 6 лет назад

      Abdiel Gonzalez 1 dollar at family dalla or the dollar tree here in the midwest

    • @ultorgv3773
      @ultorgv3773 6 лет назад

      Mel Gibson wow thats awesome

  • @venivinivinci
    @venivinivinci 4 года назад

    I have that exact budget stone I sharpen everything with it! Works perfectly.

  • @cbo2864
    @cbo2864 4 года назад

    never actually heard about these before today. thanks for the video