Sharpening is a subject with more options than fleas on a dog. I’m really impressed by how well the camera angles demonstrate the technique used. I also like the presentation of opinions - not dogmatic or dismissive of the cheaper stone. As an entry level option for those new to sharpening knives these are very practical. As knowledge increases and, perhaps people buy better and higher quality knives, the better/more expensive stones may become more desirable. But the cheaper stones will do the job if that’s all you can afford. Really good presentation. Thanks for a great video.
I'm female and I love tools period. I cut grass with shears for stress relief and love sharpening my blades. Just now learning whet stone and maybe learn to sharpen with metal stick thingy I know it has a name. Thanks for videos and yes it's very therapeutic 😊 Also it's sort of instant gratification.
For a non-professional, I've always had a knack for getting an extremely sharp edge. It's calming and therapeutic for sure! Pressure washing cement with a surface cleaner or soft wash cleaning a roof is the same thing for me. It's an ugly to beautiful transition.
I don't understand the people with comments saying videos are too long. You know there's a slider in the time bar that you can forward right? Btw, great videos and keep up the good work. Very informative! Thanks!
TrungLeNOLA people looking to get instant gratification should probably not be getting into whetstones anyway. Not really a suitable hobby for impatience.
Because the vast majority of the video is him sharpening the knife, but if I fast forward through the whole thing, how much useful information am I missing? If I'm watching a video to compare a budget stone to a Shapton, I care about the results, not watching him do every single stroke, but if he's also giving useful information in between strokes, I HAVE to watch the entire thing. This is not efficient use of time in an informative video, and if I wanted ASMR I would go somewhere else.
lol i find the people who complain about videos being "too long" are simpletons at best, and often wonder how the hell they make it through each episode of their favorite TV show little lone a feature length movie.
@monkehm: if you dont enjoy sitting through his videos from beginning to end, perhaps you should find something to watch more in line with your intelligence/ADHD level. It's not his fault that you have the patience and attention span of a gnat... that's a personal problem on your end and you shouldn't whine at him like it's his fault. A lot of us actually ENJOY watching longer videos from beginning to end.
Great comparison between an expensive stone and a budget stone. I’ve been looking into buying a whet stone to sharpen my knives but I didn’t want to spend a bunch of money. It’s good to know that a cheaper stone will still get the job done.
Hello, I'm a grinding stone manufacturer from Brazil, I've been studying and watching a lot of sharping videos so I can develop good cost/benefits product to this knives sharpening market. I notice that lot of people are afraid to say that sometimes cheap and expensive stones fell the same way, I did some density testes over king stones and other brands they were pretty much the same
Glad to hear..!! I just got a set of sharpening stones from Amazon for $50. The set included 400/1000, and 3000/8000 grit stones. Also came with base, gloves, angle tool, instructions, a $10 amazon gift card IF you leave a review after using the stones, and leveling stone. My first set of stones and just learning how to sharpen so this video is reassuring. Of course, I guess the brand of stone is different, so time will tell. It should be a good way to learn and hone.
Sooooo.....I hate long videos, but I have learned EVERYTHING I know about sharpeningn knives from Burrific. Three years on a King and now I have a Chosera 3000. I watched every minute of this thing and saw all the little subtle thing he does, checking the burr, the angles of the blade to stone. Sometimes, you need a full on too long show me everything video. THANK YOU for spending time with us Burrific!
I would like to add that at the stones price, you could buy an extra 5000 and 10,000 grit stone and still be under the other ones budge and get and even sharper edge.
If I was cutting a $1000 piece of tuna, I'd absolutely go Shaptons (and a better knife) but for the average kitchen user, the $40 combo will out perform 90+% of home kitchen setups out there. Like anything, there's "enthusiasts" (like us) who enjoy the process, and can appreciate the feel and extra 10-20% end result. Worth the price, I'd say it depends on the user. I know people who spend $400 on a pen because they like how it feels. It's a personal satisfaction thing. I just ordered a Sharp Pebble contoured stone for gouges etc, and was kind of concerned it may be too soft to do a good job. Your test makes me feel better about the $40 purchase. How about a Roo vs Horse leather for stropping test? (or something similar) One opinion is the Roo is so much denser and thinner it doesn't roll around the edge and re-dull it. I'm fixing to drop $100+ on a stropping system and am leaning Roo. Video length is fine, the naysayers must have forgot the fast forward, I personally want to hear what you have to say while sharpening. You have a new sub. Great video! PS - just found your store, will be shopping there as well.
Thanks for this video, as someone who is looking to get into sharpening to improve my cooking experience, this budget stone looks like exactly what I was looking for and your approach has given me a much more trustworthy review than I could find anywhere else! I appreciate that your channel has content for both newbies and more experienced folk.
Very good camera angles, sometimes watching and learning is difficult cause all you see is one camera direction, I love this format. I have lots of bushcrafting outdoor knives with Scandinavian grinds which need to be sharpened on stones, so learning how is so important. I've slowly gotten better and need better stones, its weird because its not just sight but feel and sound all in one, nice stones sound great.😉 Great videos man thanks for sharing these.
I loved it, but i realized the difference in sharpening by the sound which came out in the end. Thanks for helping newbies and promoting the hobby among the newbies
Thank you for this video, I am starting out learning, I have tried about 5 other people's "techniques" and they don't feel natural to me. This video just boosted my skills by 10x. Thank you! (I have the cheap stone) still a lot to learn, before I could justify the expense of a better stone. But it gives me confidence I could sharpen some of my "nicer" knives. Great video.
@@juangonzalez9848 Point taken, However i Never mentioned Wires.. I was Stating the potential for electrical conductivity between the two. Don't kill the messenger without reading the message...
@@juangonzalez9848 Ackshually, malleability has nothing to do with why gold wires are not used in wiring. In fact, some industrial applications desire gold wiring instead of copper tracings in circuit boards, there's places where you can buy EXTREMELY fine gold wiring for pressing into a circuit board sandwich in place of the usual copper. But in the case of, say, power cable for your PC? You will need roughly the same weight of gold in the cable as in a regular one, roughly 85% of the weight in a normal cable in gold is a whole lot of gold, so you COULD buy that 2 meter standard socket cable for 200$.. But would you?
These videos are just so much fun... to begin with, I ended up sharpening everything from my Sabatier kitchen knives, to some MAC knives to more ordinary knives. It was long overdue, thanks for the inspiration. Next stop will be getting some better whetstones.
I learned a few things watching this. 1. I use my whetstone whey too dry. Lol I just thought soak it and go. 2. I don't hold my knife flat enough. 3. I don't strop afterwards and 4. The sound of a knife sharpening is very relaxing. I nodded off a few times and had to rewind. 😁
MrVangassen agreed, I have the pebble whetstone and I watched tons of videos on how to sharpen a blade with it from outdoors55 and a few other you tubers. Still didn’t help me though, in my opinion using a whetstone to sharpen a blade is pretty tough. Takes a lot of experience unless you’re very good at eyeballing angles.
For those who don't want to get a lapping/flattening stone, you can always use some sand paper on a flat cutting board or something. Just mark the stone with a pencil.
Just probably gonna end up cutting into the paper unless you only use trailing strokes, which will not only be sooo much slower but really limits a huge asset in the art of sharpening (the forward stroke)
@@TylrVncnt I specified a lapping stone, like one that is intended only for flattening your sharpening stone. Not using the sand paper to sharpen the blades.
First off, love your approach to these videos. I'm an amateur enthusiast interested in sharpening. I have a history of spending crazy money on new hobbies and I like your philosophy. So I bought an entry level 400/1000 Pebble Stone sharpening set to set an edge on my budget chefs knives. Keep it up and if this continues... Your new Burrfection knives look awesome.
I thought I'd just end up skipping through the video to get as much info as soon as possible. But the video is really relaxing. Apparently it's nice to see someone calmly talking while concentrating on a working process.
Out of the hundred videos I just watched, I thought I would be skipping too... I think the way the video was put together in the beginning helped me stay longer throughout with his calm demeanor later.
I have the Sharp Pebble 1000/6000 in my kitchen where it's used on half a dozen knives weekly. It's money well spent. I need to flatten it every month or so, but for a stone that get's this much use it's held up well.
geez how much are you taking off the edges that you need to flatten them every month, must be buying a new knife every 6 months as you have run out of blade to sharpen.
I just found your channel while searching for instructional video re: knife sharpening. This was exactly what I needed to see and answered several questions I had. Excellent job and THANK YOU.
Law of Diminishing Return: The higher amount of money you spend beyond a certain point, where you have achieved acceptable performance/ effectiveness, the incrementally less improvement you can reasonably expect. i.e. Subaru STI = very fast, moderately expensive car. Ferrari 458 = lots more money to achieve only a moderate level of improvement. Bugatti Chiron = Insane expense, but again... only a bit more ( relatively ) useful performance, for an awful lot of money. a $600 Shapton 30,000 grit purple stone is a beautiful thing, but once it's sharp, beyond a certain point, will anyone notice the difference but you ? Or Nakayama Maruka Natural Honyama stone... $2000 +... will your sushi taste any better ?
I appreciate this sort of apples to apples comparison of things. I also appreciate the camera setup you have that allows me to look over your shoulder from afar, so to speak. It's nice to know that I can get away with spending not very much money to have good results. 80% is more than sufficient, and does seem to prove that the last bit of precision is truly the most expensive. Thank you!
Dry-sharpening my kitchen knives on the bottoms of ceramic cups made my knives as sharp as I needed them most of the time, so I'll just get the $20 stone :D
This is the video that I watched a couple of years ago it was maybe 2018 that made me purchase my first set of sharpening stones, sadly I did go the budget way at first well long story short I now own sharpton glass stones and a bunch of Chosera stones and I could not go back to shrpening any other way. It's almost become like a hobby of mine to keep all the knives sharp in the kithen. Everyone's happy I have cince purchased some very good quality knives as well I have the miyabi birchwood knives and some other japanese very good knives but the point that I'm trying to make is that it's thanks to you Ricky you're the one started me on this journey and I could not thank you enough. Thanks for everything that you do and keep up the great job!!!
Where is the 20$ "knife you speak of, I see a 55 $one, any help much appreciated, already have both stones that I've purchased for sharpening wood planes and chisels..
I've been using budget stones for years but got a Shapton 15,000 grit when I took up shaving with a straight razor. I'm glad to hear you say you aren't big on flattening stones, the Shapton was already thin out of the box!
The only difference is technique and because his technique is so good there is no difference in sharpness accept at a level the naked eye wouldn't be able to see. The brick's aren't a limiting factor in the slightest. You can tell by watching the brick sharpening video.
I appreciate seeing the entire sharpening process you show here. Helps me visually see how it’s done while I learn on some cheap knives. I’m on a DMT Diamond Fine at the moment, but the Shaptons look great too. Thanks for the vid mate.
I just found your channel and as someone who is just getting into sharpening I like your no nonsense approach to it all ! I would dearly love to spend big bucks on stones but I don't feel I can justify it while I'm at the learning stage but that said I will continue to watch your channel to hopefully improve my skills ! Thank you for your content I look forward to more !
Burrfection- you need to address the bolster on knives like the kuma. If you don't grind them, you will eventually end up developing a recurve in the blade directly in front of the bolster. This will cause the bolster to make contact with the board and not the blade, essentially rendering the knife useless for chopping. You would then be left with an oversized paring knife! Lol
Thank you very much Ryky. Btw, I just watched and commented on your budget $20 knife showdown video and realized you had addressed exactly what I was talking about in my comment with regards to a recurve forming in the blade in front of the bolster when you spoke about the bolster in the Kuma knife and how you stated you don't like knives with bolsters. Lol. So disregard my last comment hehe. I'm stoked to pick up a Mercer Millennia now. Thanks for the link, I'm gonna go watch the video now!
Oh, just went to the link and realized it's the video I was just referring to. Sorry I thought you were providing me with the link to the video where you spoke about why you don't flatten your sharpening stones any longer. If you can give me the link to that video I would greatly appreciate it.
I have the 400/1000 featured in this video. It works fine and mine came with a leveling block. This stone combined with an inexpensive leather strop are probably the most bang for the buck that one can get. I have tried all kinds of ways to sharpen and they all work fine with some patients and practice but one way you have to see to believe is paper wheels on a bench grinder. I have had my setup for years. I bought it from Sears ages ago. You take a 1/2 inch bench grinder and remove all the guards and mount two large paper wheels. One is flat and has abrasive aluminum oxide that you dope with a piece of beeswax. This wheel is used for producing a burr. The other has radial slots and is doped with fine white stropping compound. The instructions say once you mount the wheels you should never remove them because they "run in" and are easily warped. So you have to be willing to dedicate a grinder as a sharpener. One time my girlfriend moved into her fathers house after he died and between her father and her she had 58 knives of various sizes and quality, some quite nice, but not a one of them was even remotely sharp. I took my sharpener over one weekend and in 45 min every knife would cleanly and easily dry shave arm hairs the entire length of the blade. zip-zip, zip-zip one the abrasive, zip-zip, zip-zip one the strop done. A few super dull ones might have required a second treatment. This method works really well on very hard steels and is great for giving a really dull used knife or a dull from factory knife and initial sharpening. I have a range of knives I am mostly a bush crafter/hunter and have a range of high quality knives from small folders, bayonets, very large survival knives. IMHO There is really is no wrong method for sharpening a knife provided you use the technique appropriate to that method. For backpacking /hunting trips I carry nothing more than a Lansky sharpening puck (used with water) and an old leather belt doped with medium green. That puck is coarse enough to use on the machetes and axes as well. And even though the "fine" side is pretty course for knives the medium green stopping compound takes up a lot of the slack. There really is more than one way to skin a cat. Edit: There are limitations to the paper wheels. Electricity is required so not very mobile. Large and heavy so requires a lot of space. The wheels are very susceptible to moisture. I have mine set up in an air-conditioned gun room with my reloading equipment. One time I moved it into a garage for a couple of months and after a rainy period the stropping wheel took a serious warp. I moved it back to the gun room and after a while it self corrected. I doubt this set up would work in a professional kitchen environment due to required space and dampness / temperature variations. It suits my needs fine and i even put extra fine grinding wheels on a new variable speed grinder that I use for gunsmithing. This second grinder is great for re-profiling knives. I have repaired many knives with broken tips and I doubt anyone could tell they had been re-profiled. Keep up the good work! A sharp knife is a safe knife! and a joy to use.
Great review! I'd love to see more budget amazon sharpeners! I'm looking trying to decide on one of these king kw-65 , sharp pebble, taidea 3000 8000 (red lobster)
dks9564 1 second ago I've had one of the King 6000 HT-43/S-45 for about 18 months and it's held up great. No complaints at all. For a roughly $20 stone, it's really surprised me with it's quality. I build furniture as a hobby and use it as a final hone for plane irons and chisels, so it sees a bit of use. I do have better stones, but for the money, you can't beat it.
Always enjoy watching the Master Sharpener refining the edges of knives..... I only have one whetstone at the moment and its 2 sided $2 cheap modal..... doesn't even state the grit on the sides.... lol ..... But just being patience and following the tips and with practice I can get an edge that's satisfying. Have a set of stones on order now hope this will take me to the next level.... Thx Burrfection keep up the good videos.....
this could be a little controversial but I'd like to see a Dalstrong German steel knife Vs a Dalstrong Japanese steel knife to see which is the better steel....
Which in the end would still not tell you which country makes the superior steel, of that's what you're after. Because the choice of steel revolves around more than just quality. It has to do with availability, price, manufacturing costs (e.g. how much wear will your tooling see, does it require particular hardening/tempering processes), ... Also, there's no such thing as "the best steel". Steel has various properties, and depending on your intended application, and even personal tastes or the way you use the knife, some properties will carry more weight than others. That said: I agree. A comparison would be interesting. :)
When you were stropping on the budget stone, it looks like you are setting the angle on the left side of the knife much steeper than on the right side (knife is almost flat on the stone when pulling towards you, spine leading). Are you putting a single sided bevel or is this just an optical illusion? Sorry if you explained this, I skipped through a bunch of the video.
Good to see you are back! Maybe because I have six computers I seemed to have lost you. I finish off all of mt knives with a 12k grit whet stone and an 0.25 micron diamond paste on newspaper (strop). I gave a knife to a friend as a gift. Two days later he called from the hospital saying he almost cut his finger off! He was cutting a slice of melon the way he always does. My knife made the melon feel like paper as he held the slice in his hand. No blame or resentment on me. He was more amazed then angry or sorry. I laughed and said "would you cut a melon with a scalpel" ?
My God I didn't even know that there were people who could be so knowledgeable in this subject...I have been using an Arkansas soft oil stone for my only sharpening tool and using a premium quality steel to remove burrs and it is a great combo for me ....I was always wondering how to get a longer lasting sharper blade and I really look forward to my two new stone that are about to be ordered as well as my new hobbies :) new sub!!!
wish I had spent a little more than $23 for a 1000/6000 whet stone. Mine isn't without a lot of flaws, mostly voids on the surface and then it is uneven. Shame on me for not buying a sink bridge and stone holder. :-/
hmmm. well, just save up and spend your money on the right stone and accessories later. until then, just use a brick as a base and a towel in between to keep it stable. if you ever feel like it, check out this list, kit.com/Burrfection/knife-kit, and you'll see every item i use to make my sharpening kit.
The sound of the hand splattering water on stone and than sharpening is giving me strong tingles. I finally found my tingles back OMG I had lost all of my tingles from all the dumb ASMR videos I watched that I stopped watching them and now I found my tingles returning omg going watch your other videos now.
Super cool channel - I've been enjoying your videos. So for the budget-conscious beginner to home sharpening, Sharp Pebble 400/1000 OR King KDS 1000/6000? I.e., when is the courser grit of the Sharp more useful than the polishing capabilities of the King? Does the hardness or my knives influence your recommendation? Or in my ignorance, am I asking the wrong questions?
hahha. no such thing as ignorant questions when they are honest. hmmm. IF you have knives that are fairly soft, and you aren't going to be sharpening them once a week, go with the Pebble. it'll be more useful to you.
Thank you for the guidance! And for a follow-up question: You often talk about sharpening your knives every day/ every other day/ once a week, etc. Could you please clarify this guidance - is this assuming you use your knife intensely every day (i.e. a professional) or is this frequency of sharpening also intended for home cooks who use their knife only a few times a week?
i generally sharpen once a week. when i sharpening once a day, it's usually a 1-2 minute touchup of a knife that i'm testing. but for my personal knives, once a week or once every other week keeps them razor sharp. for both stones, i would not use them on anything with an HRC rating of 60 or above. if you do, the knife will simply take longer to sharpen, though you can do it. for more knives i personally in interested in buying should have at least a 59 HRC rating. anything less, will require a touch up every 3-4 days, and for me, i simply cannot afford that time.
Awesome - thank you! Currently, my only large knife is a Zwilling Pro. It's okay, but has a lower HRC - 58 I think. I'm looking to get my first japanese knife, and am particularly interested in one with R2 steel for its stainless-ness and higher HRC compared to VG10. I'd be curious to know your thoughts or see one in an upcoming video (I hear Takamura is a good brand).
Thank you for this video! I'm looking at getting a sharpening stone to sharpen my kitchen knives, and I found this video while looking for a review of cheap sharpening stones. I found this very informative, especially you showing the technique you use to sharpen knives. I learned a lot watching this. I'm going to buy a cheap 400/1000 stone just to get started. I don't need super sharp, just sharp enough for food prep. Thanks for your very informative video.
Thanks for what you do. I am just getting into stone sharpening and, oddly, I picked up the same budget stone before I saw this video. I am not looking for perfection so it is good to know that the stone I intend to use will at least sharpen my knives adequately. Thanks again. I enjoy watching your videos.
After collecting and using sharpening stones on rather high-end pocket knives and chef knives for many years, I know find that I actually rarely use any sharpening stones per se. I do, however, often use a leather strop with very fine polishing compound to quickly restore a razor sharp polished edge on my knives. About the only time I use my stones anymore is if I can an old used knife that is in bad shape. Once it's brought up to snuff, again it only gets touched up on the leather strop.
I’m so glad to find this video! I went with cheaper stones, and was wondering if I should have spent more. But for 40? Knife and 400/1000 is good enough. Toss in another 30 or so, and 3000/8000 is doable. All for less than one Shapton, (though those are better stones).
The only really pricy stones in my set are for straight razor sharpening. For my knives I go with stones of similar value like the green one in your video (European or Chinese production) + 2 naturals (Carpathian slade and Carpathian Rozsutec stone). No problem with them, they work nice and bring sharpness to my knives. And the calm ZEN feeling to me.
I used to have a few ceramic knives. I liked them for their corrosion resistance, and minimal maintenance requirements. I realized after a few years the draw back was I would have to buy a new one every few years.
I currently have a similar cheap stone, which I paid to much for. However, it has done the job for me. I am still learning and improving my sharpening. I definitely recommend these cheaper stones for folks who don't want to commit. My only regret was not having the knowledge before I started freehand sharpening.
Thanks for the great video! Planning to watch more soon since I just ordered the $20 stone off amazon. I've had my kitchen knives "professionally" sharpened and they come back feeling like there were done on a 100 grit grinder.
As a person on a very strict budget, this video makes me happy. I am also new to sharpening, and resigned myself to having to settle for something very mediocre for budget reasons, and this is good news. :)
I sharpen my knives with a couple of $2 whetstones from the dollar store and I get my knives scary sharp. No need to buy $900 stones made by vegan fairies from mount Fuji.
Its all about how you use the stones... I've been sharpening knives for about 2 years now and I've gone from $2.80 to $100 stones/plates/ diamond plates/leather strop block u name it. Every single one of them have their own use and it's up to you how to use them. If its just for maintaining or repairing chips stop at about 2000 grit and lowest go for 800 grit. Anything under or above is the area you don't want to get in to as a beginner. As time goes by you will start to understand more and more and by then go for 5000 8000 10k 12k 15k 20k 30k for polishing or under 800 to repair real shitty knives you dig up in your garden. Mind you my finishing stone is the $2.80 stone i got from Daiso, a japanese dollar store brand but i kept all the paste from the knives on it and dont clean/wash them off and over time it gave me a good 10k finish stone surface. Mirror finish for $2.80 stone, so really take your time to learn and practice. Expensive stones have their pros and you will understand why they cost that much but that doesnt mean they do a different job than a $5 stones. Take care!
I was just curious because I have grown up using them and from your reviews of wetstones I really think the wetstones might be a lot better but at the same time I have not seen a side by side comparison. Right now I am sharpening for other people and I use a tsprof sharpening system made in Russia, I use boride stones to sharpen the bevel and Arkansas stones with soapy water to polish.
IME, it's the opposite. Waterstones are better for polishing, by design. Hard sintered stone like novaculite or ceramic are better for making accurate flats and more versatile at producing an edge/apex. Even if it's super fine, a ceramic or true hard ark will "scratch up" the side of a knife it you get the knife too shallow, because that part of your knife isn't perfectly flat; and the stone can't reach into the very shallow low spots to blend in those scratches. A waterstone will come in handy to polish that out. If you want to see how flat the waterstone is getting the back of your chisel, for instance, take it to hard ceramic or true hard ark, and this will reveal the low spots that the waterstone was covering up. Then you can take it back to waterstone to polish it up, again, because it's flat enough.
Hey man, I really like your content, but i have one mayor problem with it: its simply too long. In pretty much every video you sharpen the same knifeform (chefsknife) with the same tecnique. I think some sort of speeding up the video would be best and would perfektly work within the concept of your channel. Maybe you will try it out for some time :D Keep up the good work
These videos are like a really good beer. You just sit back, take your time and enjoy. There are lots of other channels if you just want a quick chug of how-to do.
Honestly, I think that's part of what I enjoy in his videos. You just relax, listen to the grind, and watch him masterfully do his work while occasionally saying very useful/interesting stuff. If anything, he could just provide time links in the description from the end of the intro to the beginning of the results. But it would be a shame if he changed his style, I like it.
i learned off an old bloke who sharpened knives for a living and only used the old style whet stone like the budget one, leave the slurry and don't wash the stone as you've done it lets the stones effective grit go higher (400 > ~500++) so helps with the cutting of your edge. Showed me with a very hard chisel of mine, the slurry degrades and becomes finer and finer he got a beautiful polished edge with beautiful fine toothpaste slurry
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I love the three cameras showing different angles; very good idea. Thanks for a great presentation.
Two cameras with two angles but yeah its creative
Sharpening is a subject with more options than fleas on a dog. I’m really impressed by how well the camera angles demonstrate the technique used. I also like the presentation of opinions - not dogmatic or dismissive of the cheaper stone. As an entry level option for those new to sharpening knives these are very practical. As knowledge increases and, perhaps people buy better and higher quality knives, the better/more expensive stones may become more desirable. But the cheaper stones will do the job if that’s all you can afford.
Really good presentation. Thanks for a great video.
Am I the only one who finds sharpening blades extremely theraputic? Even just vicariously experiencing it by watching this video was calming lol :')
Reclaimer 117 cut thick cardboard with your knofe at work so you have a reason to sharpen it rather than swapping razor blades
A lot of razor sharp knives around my house when i get stressed.
I can totally get lost when sharpening. It balances my Chi. A dull knife needing sharpening is my guide tool leading me to a path toward clarity.
I'm female and I love tools period. I cut grass with shears for stress relief and love sharpening my blades. Just now learning whet stone and maybe learn to sharpen with metal stick thingy I know it has a name. Thanks for videos and yes it's very therapeutic 😊
Also it's sort of instant gratification.
For a non-professional, I've always had a knack for getting an extremely sharp edge. It's calming and therapeutic for sure! Pressure washing cement with a surface cleaner or soft wash cleaning a roof is the same thing for me. It's an ugly to beautiful transition.
I don't understand the people with comments saying videos are too long. You know there's a slider in the time bar that you can forward right? Btw, great videos and keep up the good work. Very informative! Thanks!
hahah. thanks Trung, it's funny, isn't it? the video could be 5 minutes, and someone will still say it could be shorter.
TrungLeNOLA people looking to get instant gratification should probably not be getting into whetstones anyway.
Not really a suitable hobby for impatience.
Because the vast majority of the video is him sharpening the knife, but if I fast forward through the whole thing, how much useful information am I missing? If I'm watching a video to compare a budget stone to a Shapton, I care about the results, not watching him do every single stroke, but if he's also giving useful information in between strokes, I HAVE to watch the entire thing. This is not efficient use of time in an informative video, and if I wanted ASMR I would go somewhere else.
lol i find the people who complain about videos being "too long" are simpletons at best, and often wonder how the hell they make it through each episode of their favorite TV show little lone a feature length movie.
@monkehm: if you dont enjoy sitting through his videos from beginning to end, perhaps you should find something to watch more in line with your intelligence/ADHD level. It's not his fault that you have the patience and attention span of a gnat... that's a personal problem on your end and you shouldn't whine at him like it's his fault. A lot of us actually ENJOY watching longer videos from beginning to end.
Great comparison between an expensive stone and a budget stone. I’ve been looking into buying a whet stone to sharpen my knives but I didn’t want to spend a bunch of money. It’s good to know that a cheaper stone will still get the job done.
I prefer longer videos. Without editing. It helps show the whole process and everything you did
Hello, I'm a grinding stone manufacturer from Brazil, I've been studying and watching a lot of sharping videos so I can develop good cost/benefits product to this knives sharpening market. I notice that lot of people are afraid to say that sometimes cheap and expensive stones fell the same way, I did some density testes over king stones and other brands they were pretty much the same
I love how he has a sharpening and a dull-ening stone.
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The ‘“dullen-ing” stone is just a brick!
@@channelpolitica1364 wow no shit! Its almost like op was making a joke. You spastic.
@@AnUnknownPlayer.
I don't think you know what "spastic" means. Just reminded me of Biden saying "look fat here's the deal" 😂
There are dulling stones? I knew it. They must have sent me dulling stones instead of sharpening stones.
Glad to hear..!!
I just got a set of sharpening stones from Amazon for $50. The set included 400/1000, and 3000/8000 grit stones. Also came with base, gloves, angle tool, instructions, a $10 amazon gift card IF you leave a review after using the stones, and leveling stone.
My first set of stones and just learning how to sharpen so this video is reassuring. Of course, I guess the brand of stone is different, so time will tell. It should be a good way to learn and hone.
Skills not tools that’s probably my favorite quote when it comes to knife sharpening
Also,the person using the tools.🙂
Sooooo.....I hate long videos, but I have learned EVERYTHING I know about sharpeningn knives from Burrific. Three years on a King and now I have a Chosera 3000. I watched every minute of this thing and saw all the little subtle thing he does, checking the burr, the angles of the blade to stone. Sometimes, you need a full on too long show me everything video. THANK YOU for spending time with us Burrific!
First sharpening video I’ve ever actually been captivated by from start to finish.
Nice work.
I would like to add that at the stones price, you could buy an extra 5000 and 10,000 grit stone and still be under the other ones budge and get and even sharper edge.
If I was cutting a $1000 piece of tuna, I'd absolutely go Shaptons (and a better knife) but for the average kitchen user, the $40 combo will out perform 90+% of home kitchen setups out there.
Like anything, there's "enthusiasts" (like us) who enjoy the process, and can appreciate the feel and extra 10-20% end result. Worth the price, I'd say it depends on the user. I know people who spend $400 on a pen because they like how it feels. It's a personal satisfaction thing.
I just ordered a Sharp Pebble contoured stone for gouges etc, and was kind of concerned it may be too soft to do a good job. Your test makes me feel better about the $40 purchase.
How about a Roo vs Horse leather for stropping test? (or something similar) One opinion is the Roo is so much denser and thinner it doesn't roll around the edge and re-dull it. I'm fixing to drop $100+ on a stropping system and am leaning Roo.
Video length is fine, the naysayers must have forgot the fast forward, I personally want to hear what you have to say while sharpening. You have a new sub.
Great video!
PS - just found your store, will be shopping there as well.
... there are* enthusiasts ...
Awesome video! Can you please add product names to your vid description? thanks!
Thanks for this video, as someone who is looking to get into sharpening to improve my cooking experience, this budget stone looks like exactly what I was looking for and your approach has given me a much more trustworthy review than I could find anywhere else! I appreciate that your channel has content for both newbies and more experienced folk.
Very good camera angles, sometimes watching and learning is difficult cause all you see is one camera direction, I love this format. I have lots of bushcrafting outdoor knives with Scandinavian grinds which need to be sharpened on stones, so learning how is so important. I've slowly gotten better and need better stones, its weird because its not just sight but feel and sound all in one, nice stones sound great.😉 Great videos man thanks for sharing these.
right on . thanks for watching and commenting. really appreciate it
3 years later.. still as satisfying as the day it was uploaded.
I loved it, but i realized the difference in sharpening by the sound which came out in the end. Thanks for helping newbies and promoting the hobby among the newbies
Thank you for this video, I am starting out learning, I have tried about 5 other people's "techniques" and they don't feel natural to me.
This video just boosted my skills by 10x. Thank you! (I have the cheap stone) still a lot to learn, before I could justify the expense of a better stone. But it gives me confidence I could sharpen some of my "nicer" knives.
Great video.
I'm amazed how your muscle memory allows the same angle so effortlessly with each stroke!
Lots of practice stroking it I suppose.
I, too, am a master at stroking my blade
You sharpened a knife to razor sharpness on a brick sooo I going to guess no. The cheap one is fine.
i literally sharpened razor blades on concrete floors before
That's like comparing copper to gold, both will conduct electricity but gold hold much more value.
John Jeffy
But gold is far too malleable to be used as a conductor in wiring.
@@juangonzalez9848 Point taken, However i Never mentioned Wires.. I was Stating the potential for electrical conductivity between the two. Don't kill the messenger without reading the message...
@@juangonzalez9848 Ackshually, malleability has nothing to do with why gold wires are not used in wiring. In fact, some industrial applications desire gold wiring instead of copper tracings in circuit boards, there's places where you can buy EXTREMELY fine gold wiring for pressing into a circuit board sandwich in place of the usual copper.
But in the case of, say, power cable for your PC? You will need roughly the same weight of gold in the cable as in a regular one, roughly 85% of the weight in a normal cable in gold is a whole lot of gold, so you COULD buy that 2 meter standard socket cable for 200$.. But would you?
Fantastic editing with multiple camera angles. No cuts. Very engaging 👍🏻👍🏻
These videos are just so much fun... to begin with, I ended up sharpening everything from my Sabatier kitchen knives, to some MAC knives to more ordinary knives. It was long overdue, thanks for the inspiration. Next stop will be getting some better whetstones.
thanks for watching. stay in touch
I agree, Ryky inspires to sharpen your knives :D
I learned a few things watching this.
1. I use my whetstone whey too dry. Lol I just thought soak it and go. 2. I don't hold my knife flat enough. 3. I don't strop afterwards and 4. The sound of a knife sharpening is very relaxing. I nodded off a few times and had to rewind. 😁
20 worth stone in hands of a master will perform better than expensive stuff in hands of an average folk.
That's why as a beginner I bought cheap stones
Trajan and a cheap knife, you don’t want to scratch the expensive one
True
But the point is for the same skill how different does one perform against another
MrVangassen agreed, I have the pebble whetstone and I watched tons of videos on how to sharpen a blade with it from outdoors55 and a few other you tubers. Still didn’t help me though, in my opinion using a whetstone to sharpen a blade is pretty tough. Takes a lot of experience unless you’re very good at eyeballing angles.
I'm new to hand sharpening and just bought the budget stone from your video. I'm feeling quite pleasantly surprised and happy now! Thanks!
For those who don't want to get a lapping/flattening stone, you can always use some sand paper on a flat cutting board or something. Just mark the stone with a pencil.
Just probably gonna end up cutting into the paper unless you only use trailing strokes, which will not only be sooo much slower but really limits a huge asset in the art of sharpening (the forward stroke)
@@TylrVncnt I specified a lapping stone, like one that is intended only for flattening your sharpening stone. Not using the sand paper to sharpen the blades.
First off, love your approach to these videos. I'm an amateur enthusiast interested in sharpening. I have a history of spending crazy money on new hobbies and I like your philosophy. So I bought an entry level 400/1000 Pebble Stone sharpening set to set an edge on my budget chefs knives. Keep it up and if this continues... Your new Burrfection knives look awesome.
I really love the sound of knives on whetstones, very soothing.
I thought I'd just end up skipping through the video to get as much info as soon as possible.
But the video is really relaxing. Apparently it's nice to see someone calmly talking while concentrating on a working process.
Out of the hundred videos I just watched, I thought I would be skipping too... I think the way the video was put together in the beginning helped me stay longer throughout with his calm demeanor later.
I have the Sharp Pebble 1000/6000 in my kitchen where it's used on half a dozen knives weekly. It's money well spent. I need to flatten it every month or so, but for a stone that get's this much use it's held up well.
how do you flatten it?
geez how much are you taking off the edges that you need to flatten them every month, must be buying a new knife every 6 months as you have run out of blade to sharpen.
... that gets* (third person, no apostrophe!)
I just found your channel while searching for instructional video re: knife sharpening. This was exactly what I needed to see and answered several questions I had. Excellent job and THANK YOU.
i can not explain to you how much i have learned about technique by just watching his movements in this video
I think you can skip to 21:30 for the conclusion, but I understand why he would include all the footage. It's a very fair test. Good vid, bud.
2:45 Love your video layout, well done.
Thank you very much!
So, 80-20 rule. You can get 80% of the performance for about 20% of the time/cost. Sounds about right. Geez, it's like almost a law of physics.
Law of Diminishing Return: The higher amount of money you spend beyond a certain point, where you have achieved acceptable performance/ effectiveness, the incrementally less improvement you can reasonably expect. i.e. Subaru STI = very fast, moderately expensive car. Ferrari 458 = lots more money to achieve only a moderate level of improvement. Bugatti Chiron = Insane expense, but again... only a bit more ( relatively ) useful performance, for an awful lot of money. a $600 Shapton 30,000 grit purple stone is a beautiful thing, but once it's sharp, beyond a certain point, will anyone notice the difference but you ? Or Nakayama Maruka Natural Honyama stone... $2000 +... will your sushi taste any better ?
Pereto principal
and buy a leather strop and you will get it too 100%
I appreciate this sort of apples to apples comparison of things. I also appreciate the camera setup you have that allows me to look over your shoulder from afar, so to speak.
It's nice to know that I can get away with spending not very much money to have good results. 80% is more than sufficient, and does seem to prove that the last bit of precision is truly the most expensive. Thank you!
Dry-sharpening my kitchen knives on the bottoms of ceramic cups made my knives as sharp as I needed them most of the time, so I'll just get the $20 stone :D
Coffee mug bottom, then the back of a belt=razor sharp.
@@phill3583 i want a video of that
I just listened to this while I was working. Really balanced my mood. Would work as a podcast
I like this guy!!! He is reputably Asian, and he is very sharp!!!
As are his knives. lol
This is the video that I watched a couple of years ago it was maybe 2018 that made me purchase my first set of sharpening stones, sadly I did go the budget way at first well long story short I now own sharpton glass stones and a bunch of Chosera stones and I could not go back to shrpening any other way. It's almost become like a hobby of mine to keep all the knives sharp in the kithen. Everyone's happy I have cince purchased some very good quality knives as well I have the miyabi birchwood knives and some other japanese very good knives but the point that I'm trying to make is that it's thanks to you Ricky you're the one started me on this journey and I could not thank you enough. Thanks for everything that you do and keep up the great job!!!
Where is the 20$ "knife you speak of, I see a 55 $one, any help much appreciated, already have both stones that I've purchased for sharpening wood planes and chisels..
I've been using budget stones for years but got a Shapton 15,000 grit when I took up shaving with a straight razor. I'm glad to hear you say you aren't big on flattening stones, the Shapton was already thin out of the box!
Is there a video comparing cheap vs expensive at higher grids like 3000/8000? That would also be extremely interesting!
The only difference is technique and because his technique is so good there is no difference in sharpness accept at a level the naked eye wouldn't be able to see. The brick's aren't a limiting factor in the slightest. You can tell by watching the brick sharpening video.
I appreciate seeing the entire sharpening process you show here. Helps me visually see how it’s done while I learn on some cheap knives. I’m on a DMT Diamond Fine at the moment, but the Shaptons look great too. Thanks for the vid mate.
This should be re-titled "Knife Sharpening ASMR"
I just found your channel and as someone who is just getting into sharpening I like your no nonsense approach to it all ! I would dearly love to spend big bucks on stones but I don't feel I can justify it while I'm at the learning stage but that said I will continue to watch your channel to hopefully improve my skills ! Thank you for your content I look forward to more !
Burrfection- you need to address the bolster on knives like the kuma. If you don't grind them, you will eventually end up developing a recurve in the blade directly in front of the bolster. This will cause the bolster to make contact with the board and not the blade, essentially rendering the knife useless for chopping. You would then be left with an oversized paring knife! Lol
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Thank you very much Ryky. Btw, I just watched and commented on your budget $20 knife showdown video and realized you had addressed exactly what I was talking about in my comment with regards to a recurve forming in the blade in front of the bolster when you spoke about the bolster in the Kuma knife and how you stated you don't like knives with bolsters. Lol. So disregard my last comment hehe. I'm stoked to pick up a Mercer Millennia now. Thanks for the link, I'm gonna go watch the video now!
Oh, just went to the link and realized it's the video I was just referring to. Sorry I thought you were providing me with the link to the video where you spoke about why you don't flatten your sharpening stones any longer. If you can give me the link to that video I would greatly appreciate it.
Wow. I am impressed that I could actually hear the difference in the cutting efficiency. So cool.
"Didn't blow this stone out of the water" that's almost funny
no pun intended.
You should look up the definition of "funny"
There's a kidney joke there somewhere.
Is it actually a sin to file a notch near the bolster of a bolstered knife? I don't like the bolster dragging on the edge of the stone.
one knife had 21 strokes on the brick.
just saying.
How so? He picked up the knives from opposite sides of the water before the brick.
Riki is well known for his ability to miscount...lol
The EXPERIMENT is RUINED
I have the 400/1000 featured in this video. It works fine and mine came with a leveling block. This stone combined with an inexpensive leather strop are probably the most bang for the buck that one can get. I have tried all kinds of ways to sharpen and they all work fine with some patients and practice but one way you have to see to believe is paper wheels on a bench grinder. I have had my setup for years. I bought it from Sears ages ago. You take a 1/2 inch bench grinder and remove all the guards and mount two large paper wheels. One is flat and has abrasive aluminum oxide that you dope with a piece of beeswax. This wheel is used for producing a burr. The other has radial slots and is doped with fine white stropping compound. The instructions say once you mount the wheels you should never remove them because they "run in" and are easily warped. So you have to be willing to dedicate a grinder as a sharpener. One time my girlfriend moved into her fathers house after he died and between her father and her she had 58 knives of various sizes and quality, some quite nice, but not a one of them was even remotely sharp. I took my sharpener over one weekend and in 45 min every knife would cleanly and easily dry shave arm hairs the entire length of the blade. zip-zip, zip-zip one the abrasive, zip-zip, zip-zip one the strop done. A few super dull ones might have required a second treatment. This method works really well on very hard steels and is great for giving a really dull used knife or a dull from factory knife and initial sharpening. I have a range of knives I am mostly a bush crafter/hunter and have a range of high quality knives from small folders, bayonets, very large survival knives. IMHO There is really is no wrong method for sharpening a knife provided you use the technique appropriate to that method. For backpacking /hunting trips I carry nothing more than a Lansky sharpening puck (used with water) and an old leather belt doped with medium green. That puck is coarse enough to use on the machetes and axes as well. And even though the "fine" side is pretty course for knives the medium green stopping compound takes up a lot of the slack. There really is more than one way to skin a cat.
Edit: There are limitations to the paper wheels. Electricity is required so not very mobile. Large and heavy so requires a lot of space. The wheels are very susceptible to moisture. I have mine set up in an air-conditioned gun room with my reloading equipment. One time I moved it into a garage for a couple of months and after a rainy period the stropping wheel took a serious warp. I moved it back to the gun room and after a while it self corrected. I doubt this set up would work in a professional kitchen environment due to required space and dampness / temperature variations. It suits my needs fine and i even put extra fine grinding wheels on a new variable speed grinder that I use for gunsmithing. This second grinder is great for re-profiling knives. I have repaired many knives with broken tips and I doubt anyone could tell they had been re-profiled.
Keep up the good work! A sharp knife is a safe knife! and a joy to use.
Great review!
I'd love to see more budget amazon sharpeners! I'm looking trying to decide on one of these king kw-65 , sharp pebble, taidea 3000 8000 (red lobster)
working on it
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I've had one of the King 6000 HT-43/S-45 for about 18 months and it's held up great. No complaints at all. For a roughly $20 stone, it's really surprised me with it's quality. I build furniture as a hobby and use it as a final hone for plane irons and chisels, so it sees a bit of use. I do have better stones, but for the money, you can't beat it.
Burrfection needs to put some affiliate links to that stone
Always enjoy watching the Master Sharpener refining the edges of knives..... I only have one whetstone at the moment and its 2 sided $2 cheap modal..... doesn't even state the grit on the sides.... lol ..... But just being patience and following the tips and with practice I can get an edge that's satisfying.
Have a set of stones on order now hope this will take me to the next level....
Thx Burrfection keep up the good videos.....
this could be a little controversial but I'd like to see a Dalstrong German steel knife Vs a Dalstrong Japanese steel knife to see which is the better steel....
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Which in the end would still not tell you which country makes the superior steel, of that's what you're after. Because the choice of steel revolves around more than just quality. It has to do with availability, price, manufacturing costs (e.g. how much wear will your tooling see, does it require particular hardening/tempering processes), ...
Also, there's no such thing as "the best steel". Steel has various properties, and depending on your intended application, and even personal tastes or the way you use the knife, some properties will carry more weight than others.
That said: I agree. A comparison would be interesting. :)
Juan Rial take 10 from each country in the most common styles that match one another and then torture test them.
We destroyed their steel factories during ww2, Japan has some of the most up to date steel mills on the planet
Didn't think I would like this video, but I found the results entertaining, thanks.
welcome and thanks for the input!
WHY WAS THIS VIDEO SOOOO RELAXING.
Really great comparison. I have the Sharp Pebble 3000/8000 stone but I'm still a newbie. Thanks for your expert review.
When you were stropping on the budget stone, it looks like you are setting the angle on the left side of the knife much steeper than on the right side (knife is almost flat on the stone when pulling towards you, spine leading). Are you putting a single sided bevel or is this just an optical illusion? Sorry if you explained this, I skipped through a bunch of the video.
Good to see you are back! Maybe because I have six computers I seemed to have lost you. I finish off all of mt knives with a 12k grit whet stone and an 0.25 micron diamond paste on newspaper (strop). I gave a knife to a friend as a gift. Two days later he called from the hospital saying he almost cut his finger off! He was cutting a slice of melon the way he always does. My knife made the melon feel like paper as he held the slice in his hand. No blame or resentment on me. He was more amazed then angry or sorry. I laughed and said "would you cut a melon with a scalpel" ?
Your forward angle seems much steeper than your pulling angle, it could be an optical apparition, but just something I've noticed.
My God I didn't even know that there were people who could be so knowledgeable in this subject...I have been using an Arkansas soft oil stone for my only sharpening tool and using a premium quality steel to remove burrs and it is a great combo for me ....I was always wondering how to get a longer lasting sharper blade and I really look forward to my two new stone that are about to be ordered as well as my new hobbies :) new sub!!!
i kinda want your old Arkansas stone
wish I had spent a little more than $23 for a 1000/6000 whet stone. Mine isn't without a lot of flaws, mostly voids on the surface and then it is uneven. Shame on me for not buying a sink bridge and stone holder. :-/
hmmm. well, just save up and spend your money on the right stone and accessories later. until then, just use a brick as a base and a towel in between to keep it stable. if you ever feel like it, check out this list, kit.com/Burrfection/knife-kit, and you'll see every item i use to make my sharpening kit.
Just ordered this 400/1000 sharp pebble to sharpen my kitchen and pocket knives...thanks for the great videos
Me, I'm not really in the mood tonight Honey.
My Wife, We can have knife sharpening videos playing in the background.
Me, Lock the door.
I would like to let you know that your videos so far have helped me become a better sharpener thank you
Me:
RUclips: Here are some knife sharpening videos you might like.
Me: Ok... Thanks?
I find this to be a pleasant ASMR video. The sound of a knife beeing sharpened is quite soothing.
Dulling the knives hurts my soul so much. I always have to skip that part of knife videos
Your profile pic makes me so mad.
@@pr3nzlb3rg3r Lol I get like 5 comments about this each week :D Fell for it myself a few years ago, had to pay it forward :D
@@pr3nzlb3rg3r people who don't use dark mode makes me mad
Love this video! I really appreciate taking the time to show me the whole process. Great job!
7:20 dragging your ring across the stone probably didn’t do your ring any good
The sound of the hand splattering water on stone and than sharpening is giving me strong tingles. I finally found my tingles back OMG I had lost all of my tingles from all the dumb ASMR videos I watched that I stopped watching them and now I found my tingles returning omg going watch your other videos now.
Super cool channel - I've been enjoying your videos. So for the budget-conscious beginner to home sharpening, Sharp Pebble 400/1000 OR King KDS 1000/6000? I.e., when is the courser grit of the Sharp more useful than the polishing capabilities of the King? Does the hardness or my knives influence your recommendation? Or in my ignorance, am I asking the wrong questions?
hahha. no such thing as ignorant questions when they are honest. hmmm. IF you have knives that are fairly soft, and you aren't going to be sharpening them once a week, go with the Pebble. it'll be more useful to you.
Thank you for the guidance! And for a follow-up question: You often talk about sharpening your knives every day/ every other day/ once a week, etc. Could you please clarify this guidance - is this assuming you use your knife intensely every day (i.e. a professional) or is this frequency of sharpening also intended for home cooks who use their knife only a few times a week?
i generally sharpen once a week. when i sharpening once a day, it's usually a 1-2 minute touchup of a knife that i'm testing. but for my personal knives, once a week or once every other week keeps them razor sharp. for both stones, i would not use them on anything with an HRC rating of 60 or above. if you do, the knife will simply take longer to sharpen, though you can do it. for more knives i personally in interested in buying should have at least a 59 HRC rating. anything less, will require a touch up every 3-4 days, and for me, i simply cannot afford that time.
Awesome - thank you! Currently, my only large knife is a Zwilling Pro. It's okay, but has a lower HRC - 58 I think. I'm looking to get my first japanese knife, and am particularly interested in one with R2 steel for its stainless-ness and higher HRC compared to VG10. I'd be curious to know your thoughts or see one in an upcoming video (I hear Takamura is a good brand).
Thank you for this video! I'm looking at getting a sharpening stone to sharpen my kitchen knives, and I found this video while looking for a review of cheap sharpening stones. I found this very informative, especially you showing the technique you use to sharpen knives. I learned a lot watching this. I'm going to buy a cheap 400/1000 stone just to get started. I don't need super sharp, just sharp enough for food prep. Thanks for your very informative video.
hey Lesley, spend as little or as much as you wish. i got a knife PRETTY sharp on a brick from my backyard ruclips.net/video/qoEZI82-M_k/видео.html
Damn I was just about to go to bed. Now I can't. Bless You
haha. welcome back.
Thanks for what you do. I am just getting into stone sharpening and, oddly, I picked up the same budget stone before I saw this video. I am not looking for perfection so it is good to know that the stone I intend to use will at least sharpen my knives adequately. Thanks again. I enjoy watching your videos.
Question: Can you level a wetstone with another wetstone? :)
Sure, I do it all the time.
After collecting and using sharpening stones on rather high-end pocket knives and chef knives for many years, I know find that I actually rarely use any sharpening stones per se. I do, however, often use a leather strop with very fine polishing compound to quickly restore a razor sharp polished edge on my knives. About the only time I use my stones anymore is if I can an old used knife that is in bad shape. Once it's brought up to snuff, again it only gets touched up on the leather strop.
Much shallower angle pushing vs pulling
I’m so glad to find this video! I went with cheaper stones, and was wondering if I should have spent more. But for 40? Knife and 400/1000 is good enough. Toss in another 30 or so, and 3000/8000 is doable. All for less than one Shapton, (though those are better stones).
Anyone else notice that at 6:16 he said he was doing 10 strokes and he only did eight
yes
1-800-HOWS-MY-AUTISM
He wakes up 5 in the morning @_@
oh its terrible, what a shame !
The only really pricy stones in my set are for straight razor sharpening.
For my knives I go with stones of similar value like the green one in your video (European or Chinese production) + 2 naturals (Carpathian slade and Carpathian Rozsutec stone). No problem with them, they work nice and bring sharpness to my knives. And the calm ZEN feeling to me.
Could you send a link to the stones you use
I had to do lapping of the natural stones to make them smoother. Slate was easy, but Rozsutec is a pretty hard stone.
And for other look for Taidea water stones- China manufacturer.
I really hated it when you pulled the knives on the brick.
Malcolm in the Middle most people do 😂👍
Great work! Your objectivity and honesty is refreshing.
... objectivity and honesty are* ...
Why you used so coarse grit? Why not 1000/6000 $20 stone?
Balbes Balbes probably because he ran it through a brick 20 times. Need something course to straighten that out.
As a new sharpener guy, I am very happy with your video. This was exactly what I needed to know. Thank you for a great job providing information!!
Why am I watching this, I barely cook and when I do I use ceramic knives
welcome
Ceramic knives dull as well, they just take a bit longer.
Because it's interesting, probably.
I used to have a few ceramic knives. I liked them for their corrosion resistance, and minimal maintenance requirements. I realized after a few years the draw back was I would have to buy a new one every few years.
I dont see why you can't just sharpen the ceramic knife instead of buying a new one.
RIGHT ON R! I like thwe way you use the 3 angle views! Great work dude
Title should be 1$ brick vs $20whetstone vs $150 shapton
the brick was used to dull the knife.
@@weeverob Different video.
Rob Weaver r/whooosh
I actually bought a stone at a dollar store and got my knife to shaving sharp.
I currently have a similar cheap stone, which I paid to much for. However, it has done the job for me. I am still learning and improving my sharpening. I definitely recommend these cheaper stones for folks who don't want to commit.
My only regret was not having the knowledge before I started freehand sharpening.
This is better than an ASMR video and very informative. By any chance, have you ever sharpened the sword for Samarai Jack?
Thanks for the great video! Planning to watch more soon since I just ordered the $20 stone off amazon. I've had my kitchen knives "professionally" sharpened and they come back feeling like there were done on a 100 grit grinder.
you can do it better than many "pro" sharpeners out there.
When you cut that paper I creamed my pants so hard from the satisfaction the sound brought
As a person on a very strict budget, this video makes me happy. I am also new to sharpening, and resigned myself to having to settle for something very mediocre for budget reasons, and this is good news. :)
I sharpen my knives with a couple of $2 whetstones from the dollar store and I get my knives scary sharp.
No need to buy $900 stones made by vegan fairies from mount Fuji.
Its all about how you use the stones...
I've been sharpening knives for about 2 years now and I've gone from $2.80 to $100 stones/plates/ diamond plates/leather strop block u name it.
Every single one of them have their own use and it's up to you how to use them.
If its just for maintaining or repairing chips stop at about 2000 grit and lowest go for 800 grit. Anything under or above is the area you don't want to get in to as a beginner. As time goes by you will start to understand more and more and by then go for 5000 8000 10k 12k 15k 20k 30k for polishing or under 800 to repair real shitty knives you dig up in your garden.
Mind you my finishing stone is the $2.80 stone i got from Daiso, a japanese dollar store brand but i kept all the paste from the knives on it and dont clean/wash them off and over time it gave me a good 10k finish stone surface. Mirror finish for $2.80 stone, so really take your time to learn and practice. Expensive stones have their pros and you will understand why they cost that much but that doesnt mean they do a different job than a $5 stones.
Take care!
have you ever tried Arkansas stones?
second that. do you use oil stones?
real briefly, and was not a fan for sharpening . maybe for polishing they are fine. i'll try to pick up another set and do a long term review on them
i personally don't, just because of the mess. but i have been sent some and i'll be doing more in depth reviews on them
I was just curious because I have grown up using them and from your reviews of wetstones I really think the wetstones might be a lot better but at the same time I have not seen a side by side comparison. Right now I am sharpening for other people and I use a tsprof sharpening system made in Russia, I use boride stones to sharpen the bevel and Arkansas stones with soapy water to polish.
IME, it's the opposite. Waterstones are better for polishing, by design. Hard sintered stone like novaculite or ceramic are better for making accurate flats and more versatile at producing an edge/apex. Even if it's super fine, a ceramic or true hard ark will "scratch up" the side of a knife it you get the knife too shallow, because that part of your knife isn't perfectly flat; and the stone can't reach into the very shallow low spots to blend in those scratches. A waterstone will come in handy to polish that out. If you want to see how flat the waterstone is getting the back of your chisel, for instance, take it to hard ceramic or true hard ark, and this will reveal the low spots that the waterstone was covering up. Then you can take it back to waterstone to polish it up, again, because it's flat enough.
Camera angles are terrific, and the layout is perfect. Great production value!
Hey man, I really like your content, but i have one mayor problem with it: its simply too long.
In pretty much every video you sharpen the same knifeform (chefsknife) with the same tecnique. I think some sort of speeding up the video would be best and would perfektly work within the concept of your channel. Maybe you will try it out for some time :D
Keep up the good work
thanks for the input
These videos are like a really good beer. You just sit back, take your time and enjoy. There are lots of other channels if you just want a quick chug of how-to do.
Burrfection don't listen to him, man
Honestly, I think that's part of what I enjoy in his videos. You just relax, listen to the grind, and watch him masterfully do his work while occasionally saying very useful/interesting stuff. If anything, he could just provide time links in the description from the end of the intro to the beginning of the results.
But it would be a shame if he changed his style, I like it.
that is what the time bar is for.
i learned off an old bloke who sharpened knives for a living and only used the old style whet stone like the budget one, leave the slurry and don't wash the stone as you've done it lets the stones effective grit go higher (400 > ~500++) so helps with the cutting of your edge.
Showed me with a very hard chisel of mine, the slurry degrades and becomes finer and finer he got a beautiful polished edge with beautiful fine toothpaste slurry