How To Choose a Japanese Sharpening Whetstone
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- Опубликовано: 9 июн 2024
- Learn how to choose the best Japanese whetstones to sharpen your knives with. Whetstones can be confusing and knowing what to look for and how each whetstone behaves will make knife sharpening easy and enjoyable.
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You Sir are a gem! Your videos go beyond sharpening and knives for me, you are very relaxing to listen to. Thanks.
Thanks Ryky for you effort to explain something in depth and detail that only a knife enthusiast would understand...I've been looking for a stone that would help me achieve an apex or burr in the least amount of time as to transition to the finer polishing stones I use. This video is definitely helpful to anyone who has the patients watch it through to the end. Again thanks for doing these videos.
Thank you Ryky ; I appreciate the work you do that makes our decisions a bit easier. Great research !
Thanks Eliel! just doing my best.
Thank you , You have Given me a Little Education in Sharpening Whetstones.
Excellent and unbiased explanation, Bravo!
shapton pro 1000
Arashiyama 1000
bester 1200
Naniwa Super Stone 800
king 1000
cerax 1000
chosera 800
Thanks so much for the written names.
I was going to suggest Burrfection to have the names written. Thanks Richard!
Very good, helpful presentation. Thank you.
I'm happy to see that I got super lucky because the stones I bought to learn on turn up in these videos a lot so I'm more at ease that I got the correct products
Great video series.
Thank you for helping me on what stones to buy.
all good. .
This has been very informative
I really enjoy your videos... you have great style and you're delivering a lot of information that is helpful. I come from a woodworking background, where the sharpening issues are slightly different, and getting more serious about kitchen knives, so this is great. I haven't been through all your videos, so my question is probably addressed elsewhere, but I am puzzled by your your use of the terms "feedback" and "hand feel". And "luxurious". Finally, a small suggestion that may be impractical, but if you had the name of the stone (or knife) you're talking about at any given moment on the screen in a corner, it would help in the videos that you're comparing many different instance. Keep up the great work!
so easy to listen to, looking into getting some stones, v imformative :)
Love your videos
What would you recommend for sharpening SURGICAL SCISSORS? Many thanks for your detailed videos. Oh, and I really love your make-shift video lighting accessories. :)
Hi Mate.
Thanks for sharing your review on the wet stones.
Cheers Tony .👍⛏🍺🇦🇺
thank Famo, just doing my best.
thank you
Great video thanks. I'm still using my KDS KING STONE. Love it
Methos! where you been? good to hear from you. right on, man. glad the stone is still serving you well.
Burrfection Work picked up so bad I haven't had time to watch videos that much. I have been watching some of your videos. Great set up in your garage awesome. And I see the kids are doing great. Keepfilming keep making the videos
So much effort, put together professionally. Looking for a good set of knives for Christmas and all your videos have been very informative. Thanks and keep it up :)
thanks Chris. just doing my best.
Thanks
Hi! Just found out your youtube channel. It's great. I didnt know anything about sharpening. My knifes were dull, i was like "I should learn how to sharpen them". Then i stumbled on your channel and i was like "Woh, it's a whole big world".
Now i want to buy great knifes and i ordered a sharpening stone (king, that i had to send back because it was cracked) so now i'm still waiting to have a sharpening stone and i'm so excited to start.
ok this seemed strange and confusing. as i told you i'm really excited about all this.
I was wondering, and i havent seen a video about it, can you make a video about the different whetstones that exist? like diamond, ceramic, etc.? to be honnest theres so much, im confused. i dont mind paying the price for a very good starter kit (like 300$) because i know it will last a long long time and i better have quality straight away.
sorry for this long message, keep the good work.
you guessed, i'm from canada. (because of sorry hahaha)
I finally found It!
This is the video ( combined with the comparable polishing video) is what I have been looking for!
Thanks again for this video!
After an impulse buy I ended up with a Bester 1000/6000 combination stone, so I was relieved to hear you rate the company. I couldn't believe just how heavy (dense) it is, it feels like lead. Hopefully I'll get the feedback off it to learn quickly. I bought it from a large woodworking supply store here in the UK, and it had lots of good reviews. The price was good too, as they import them.
Thank you for the video. I am looking for a 1000/8000 combo stone with a base. Can you recommend a good choice?
You just gained a new subscriber. Your videos are super well done and very informative. One question I have is I've seen people use multiple stones on the same knife. They'll use a 220/1000 combination stone for sharpening, and then go to something like a 4000\8000 combination stone for polishing. Is it necessary to go through all those steps? Or can I just get a 1000/6000 combination Stone like the King Stone in your video and call it a day?
Love that king 1000/6000. Does a great job with all my knives
Yup, works great
Alright, having watched it all I feel I am completely stoned.
Everybody must get stoned...
I hope your hair has faired better..
Oh dear, dad jokes on a whetstone video.🤦🏻
Good stuff. As this review summary is almost 5 years old now, and 1000grit is the workhorse of sharpening, i would like to see an updated comparison of the top ~1000g options, showing speed, ease and durability on modern hard kitchen knives, including interrupted and continuous monocrystalline diamond (DMT, Atoma, Trend), splash and go (Shapton glass, Naniwa, etc). Perhaps also point out good one step options to finish the edge to the working state (ex 4k Shapton glass, Naniwa 3K, 1um diamond stop on leather, green/black stick on leather).
Hi there, nice video. I was wondering if you would recommend a particular whetstone (brand and grit number) for sharpening convex hair cutting shears? Like a lot of us during the pandemic there was a period of time where we cut the family hair at home and we bought a fairly cheap hair cutting kit to start out with. Its a Jetika cutting shears and texturizing Scissors Set (440C Stainless Steel with convex edge). I'm not sure if the tension is just off or if they need sharpening already since the set was only about $20. We have used them about 8 times. I guess maybe a middle of the road price range whetstone either splash and go or fairly quick soaking (15-30 min) stone is what I was wondering might work on these? Do we also need a polishing stone/side as well? If you have links on Amazon to any of your recommendations that would be awesome. Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
Hey man, could you suggest what type of stone would be best for the gladiator chefs knife? Ideally, I just need a stone that's isn't outstanding in its price, rather decent and able to pull off a great job on sharpening it. Any feedback would be nice. Thanks!
if the naniwa super stone # 800 feels like the chosera #3000, what does the #1000 super stone feel like? Also what Grit rating do you give the Naniwa Professional #800 and #1000? Thank you.
The helicopter at 4:00 ,minutes was great you didn't miss a beat. Actually pretty cool that your audio picked it up.
hahah. they come around quite a bit. all of the high speed chase you see on TV happen on LA freeways
I’d appreciate hearing your thoughts about matching stones to knife hardness, and steel types.
Which work better up to 60-61, which work better for above. Which work better on this steel, which are better for that.
Chosera 800 and 3k make a good starter pair? Would the 800 be to fine for removing material and changing profiles/angles?
Hello, I’m looking for a good stone to sharpen my Miyabi Knives and Shun that I use on the daily. Any recommendations? Thanks in advance.
Ryky, I just wanted to say I really appreciate the time and effort you put into these videos. I've had a cheapy combination stone for a while and I feel it's time to upgrade and have relied heavily on your videos to make a decision. I'd like to support your efforts and will be purchasing from the Burrfection store. Still can't decide between the 2k/5k kit or the 800/3k kit, but I will.
thank you. 800/3k if you don't sharpen often. if you like sharpening once a week, or more, 2k/5k is OK.
Hello Pal
I have watched loads of your videos, could you do some about sharpening straight razors. I would really like to know which stones work the best on those. Should I buy Shaptons or some other brand, or should I buy some Natural Arkansas for instance. Traditional shaving is having a big resurgence & many people would really like to know which is best. You do more work for your videos than anyone else. Keep up the good work & my fingers are crossed in the hope you can help me out.
Best Regards
Mark
What are your thoughts on Skerper stones? Thanks
16:30 is my favorite
First off, love your videos, subscribed after seeing the brick sharing video (via reddit).
Did quite a bit of scouting when I was younger, only really have practice sharpening with Arkansas whetstones.
I use henckels knives in the kitchen. What would the best option for German knives be?
German knives tend to have a rockwell of 55-58. they are fairly easy to sharpen, so anything that fits your budget will do. shapton pro will be best performance/price ratio in my opinion. check my list of top stones here kit.com/Burrfection
My kife is made from N690 material. So, can you advice what whetstone should i buy..what is suitable grit should i use..tq
Hi Riki. I’m currently trying to get my hands on a king 1000/6000. I will eventually
they put finishing compounds and polishes in some of the stones. I believe that is why they seem higher grit
Hello Riky! for a long time i used king kds 1000/6000 for my enso hd knives. but now I have miyabi brichwood knives that are of a different hardness, and I know that my king kds is not suitable. Could you recommend me which stones to choose both to recover the edge and to polish. Thank you so much.
Would that fourth stone be good for a d2 blade .. I don't sharpen kitchen knives only pocket it camping type knives
Great summary on sharpening stones!
I need a good flattening stone that could pull double duty at fixing chipped blades. I've been looking at the Atoma Diamond Sharpeners. Any recommendations on the #140 or the #400?
hmmm.. 140 IF your main goal is to use it for flattening AND repair chipped and damages knives. 400, IF you want to touch up dull knives, and flatten stones, so, if you are doing more repairs, go amzn.to/2wr77c8,
Hi. I recently bought a wasabi brand yanagiba and i bough a water stone #1000. I have been sharpening the knife but it does not sharp enough. I dont know what to do. What do you think is the problem? Do i need a different stone number?
Are you going to do a review of SIGMA POWER SELECT brand stones from Japan???
What do you think of dmt stones the official ones dia and duo sharp?
What is your opinion on the SHARPAL 162N Diamond Whetstone with Storage Base?
Any information on this combo? Suehiro NEW CERAX CR-3800 double-sided grinding stone yellow # 3000 / blue # 1000 (WA) SUEHIRO Serakkusu. Would this be a good choice or should I get the individual stones? Not sure if this is in the same class as the other stones.
i haven't used that particular stone, but i have used them individually, and those grits are great.
Hi, looking forward to follow your channel. I've just started, or I will soon start learning the art of sharpening knives, mostly folders, hunting knives and chef knives. I sure would also like to sharpen my most collectable knives that are custom Japanese and Bowie's and some swords, but for now, I leave that to professional's, specially the swords. My BIG question for you is, what stones do I need, brand, how many and grits? Do I also need a leather strap, is it a good thing to have? I will mainly just sharpening dull knives, ending with a beautiful polish. I guess also mostly holding my knives sharp as possible can be, both kitchen knives and my pocket knives. I know I can get a descent set cheap, but I would like the best possible, maybe a choice of 1-3 brands? If this feels good for me, and I have a feeling it will, I would like to learn all about sharpening, polishing and more. My dream is to learn the art of working a Japanese Samurai Sword made of Tamahagane. And for that I need the knowledge of Japanese Natural Wet Stones. I know they don't come cheap, and there's a lot of philosophy behind sharpening swords of this caliber. But it's still a dream and it might not come true. A teacher is needed, I might have to move and live close, that is if I will find one who would learn me. But I could always take a course, lessons, but I'm not sure that would be the same. Sorry for my babbling, I get to excited talking about these things. Anyway, I'm a kind of a nerd, so I won't be happy if I don't get the best or some of the best stones there is. Hope you can help me out on my journey to become a sharpener and polisher. It would mean a lot to me.
Most sincerely
Thomas Aasen, Norway 🙏
From Rykys mouth to you.
Shapton Pro 120
Suehiro Cerax 320
Naniwa Pro (Chosera) 800
Suehiro Cerax 1000
Naniwa Pro (Chosera) 3000
Suehiro Rika 5000
Kitayma 8000
Leather strop loaded with compound. I use a double side rough/smooth horse butt strop.
Anything higher and you are getting into big money ($200 USD and up).
A lot of people love the whole Shapton Pro series.
Hope this helps. Good luck 👍
I'm a bit confused as to choosing the right grade of the stone, for sharpening my standard run of the mill kitchen knives. They are not too badly damaged (e.g. no chips) but over the years they have becoming duller. I have been using various sharpeners so I thought to try wet or splash stones. I've seen this and other videos of yours suggesting the king kds 1000/6000 as good for a novice but so is the chosera 800, and in other videos I've seen a 400/1000 stone used. In your 'how to pick the best whetstone grit' video you were talking about a normal distribution and where to spend the bulk of you money in the middle anything between the 400-1000 grade range. In some other comments I see you suggesting something like 800-1000 grade for sharpening. So I suspect the main/base grade one chooses depends on how dull are the knives to start with; and obviously you do not know that, and thus I do not know with what grade of stone to start with. I don't want the knives ultra sharp or polished. Just taking care of their dullness due to wear. Can I get away with just one stone? Any advice welcome. Tnx in advance.
I've been trying to get some solid advice on what stone to buy to get into sharpening, after seeing this I'm leaning towards the king, do you think it would be a good choice for a total novice? And also, is there any point in getting a polishing stone for cheap knives?
see which one works with your budget
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Would you be able to tell me the price range of each of these stones? Great vid very informative. Thumbs up.👍
What is the difference between shapton pro 30000 and shapton glass 30000? Hope you can make a video to show both.
Price and the glass stones are a bit harder
what stone should i get for Shun Blue kiristuke
Come on get the Riky edition back in stock. I’m waiting!
Hi Ryky, Though I have only recently subscribed to you channel, I have enjoyed your videos for several years. I have been sharpening knives, for over 60 years and wanted to up my game and try using a water-stone. A few months ago, I purchase a Sharp Pebble 1000/6000. One of the first things I noticed was that the 6000 side seemed very soft. I use a gentle roll of the wrist as I move into the curved part of a blade and not too much pressure, but actually the knife edge bit into the stone. Not good for getting a sharp edge. Is it my technique which needs changing or is the stone just that soft?
Its technique, had same problems when i started.
I freehanded for a while and then moved to the edge pro and want to go back to freehand. Looking at upgrading my stones and thinking of getting Chosera 800, 2000 & 5000 to start. Thoughts on whether this is a good starter "set" of choseras?
Chosers 2k is my favorite out of the entire line up 400 thru 10,000
Ryky kicks ass!
hey man great video btw .i could really use your help here ..i got a global sai knife cromova 18 sanso and i wanna buy a good stone for that knife to make it razor sharp again but i dont know what stone should i buy what grit what brand ..could you help me ?ive seen a ton of youtube videos and searched on amazon for sharpening stones but still i dont know whats the best .please help !
the Global is a fairly hard knife, so my top picks for sharpening is either chosesa 800, or cerax 1000 . for polishing. chosera 3000 IF you want sharpness without higher polish. Rika 5000 if you want hazy finish (soaking stone), and Kitayama 8000 if you want mirror polish. they are all below.
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Top Splash-n-go Whetstones
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Informative video, but the content does not match the title. After watching this video, I still have no idea how I would go about picking the most suitable stone according to my needs and preferences. I just watched a comparison between a couple of specific stones in the same grit range.
Also, I would have liked if your videos would include the names of the stones/knives you're using. Just because you mention it in speaking in the video doesn't mean we automatically know how to spell it so Google knows what we're asking about. Even better would be an affiliate link for every item used in the video, rather than a generic link to "all the stuff in all your videos", which again is a title that doesn't match the content on the other side of the link.
Those are the two recurring points of criticism I find with your videos. Don't get me wrong, I do appreciate the effort you put into this, and the fact you're putting it out there.
I agree to at least putting the names of the items being reviewed would make it so much easier than my stupid american spelling trying to spell japanese names
He did include the names and links to the stones in the video description 😊
@Aspen wow please chill
Hi Ryky,
I can't thank you enough. I've watched hour upon hour of your videos to inform my first sharpening purchases and have been having great fun doing so. You are extremely informative and I greatly value your opinions.
You've really sold me on the Naniwa chosera 800 in this video. What's the finest finishing stone I could go to after the 800? Could I go from the chosera 800 and then finish on a chosera 5000 or your favorite Suehiro rika 4000 or is that too much of a jump? I do love mirror finish but can appreciate the satin/grey finish you get from the Rika 4k. Would a 6k or 8k be out of the question after the 800? My wife uses Henckels 4-star and will not be going any harder than German steel (I know, those thick choils are going to slow things down, especially for a beginner).
Thanks again!!!
if you want kasumi (hazy) finish, go Rika 5000, if you want glossy, go chosera 5000, or Kitayama 8000. see whichever one works best for your budget. all can be found here. kit.com/Burrfection/knife-kit
Thanks very much. I went with the Rika 5000.
right on. let me know how it works out
Hi, Could you provide the links to the Forums that you read?
Have you used the naniwa green brick 2k stone? I would love to hear your opinions on it i you have!
Hello, I just ordered a Dalstong 8" Shogun... would you recommend the Cho 800 or the King KDS 1000/6000? I am a beginner at this. thanks
chosera 800 is my pick. you'll never outgrow it. you can see the rest of my top picks kit.com/Burrfection
Thanks again for opinion..... do you have any thoughts on the change to AUS10 on the dalstrong shogun?
I got a very old king from my grandpa but I really can't see the grit, it's pretty vintage but feels like a good stone to practice on
He told me it's a thousand grit, is that okay for a yanagiba? I don't wanna ruin the hamon finishes on my knife
Very professional discourse. Wish it were more specific on the names & specific uses of the top suggested stones.
Can you do a video about stone selection for high speed steels?
i've sharpened up to 67 rockwell successfully with the naniwa pro series bur.re/naniwa
Hi Ryky
first thing - love your vidoes, got back into sharpening knives again with even better results.
questions: 1st: will you go back to higher resulution on the vidoes? 720p seems a bit low....
2nd: will you test the Naniwa professional stones? these are much more available to purchase for me than the chosera, would be great to hear your view compared to Chosera.....
3rd: any plans to sharpen a Kasumi chef knife?
all the best from here and keep up the good work :-)
//Nemosan
these are the videos he had uploaded on his first channel, they''re old and i guess he wants all of them to be on the same channel that's why he's re uploading them here
i'm migrating older videos from my older channel, so all my knife videos can be on one channel. i have the complete collection of Chosera, so yes, i'll be doing a big series of videos on them. for Kasumi, i just got a vendor who will be sending me those knives, so yes.
Ryky, Would you please define what “snappy” means in regards to a water stone?
Only the king 1000 has such a feature. Try it out, and you’ll understand.
Will I want a water stone or a oil stone
You mentioned on the King that they've updated it more than once to be capable of sharpening some of the tougher steels. Have they updated it since they placed the plastic divider between the 1000 and 6000 sides? On one of your other videos you mentioned to get that one with the divider, so I did. I'm just wondering if there's more than one version of that style and if there's any way to tell what I've got from the packaging.
For me it was quite difficult to find where i can buy King KDS 1000/6000 stone. Buy it in country where i live is almost impossible. So I did some research based what i can buy and what i realy want and there are two types of King Combination stones. One of them is labeled as Sun Tiger combination stone Grid 1000/6000. It is marked as Sun tiger but is realy King, is almost half a price of KDS and it has smaller dimensions (150 x 50 x 25 mm). Also, there is no spacer between layers. I think this is what Ryky mentioned in this video as economy version. Second type is KDS version. Stone is much larger (207 x 66 x 36 mm), it has plastic spacer between layers and is expensive (60€ around). On one side of stone is logo KDS and 1000# 6000# labeling. My was packaged in clear thin plastic package with bluish paper with japanese text, one from distributor and one which i don't remember. Also, there are golden letters on top of the package. I bought it for my Ontario RAT1 D2 knife and some CrMo kitchen knife. Unfortunetaly, i was not able to sharpen my knife as i expected. I think is problem with my technique not stone. At the other hand my kitchen cold steel can be razor sharpened with KDS same as Morakniv and Victorinox pocked knife. But, my technique is improving with every sharpening.
I asked the parent company, matsunaga corp, about this and of course no reply in weeks. Fark em.
There actually are at least two nearly identical King KDS 1000/6000-branded stones being sold at the moment. They are both 207 x 66 x 36 mm, at least one with the divider and another without. I ordered two from different sellers. They shared a lot of visual similarities, yet one came with a white paper with japanese writing, one came with no paper. So it seems with your blue paper version, there are possibly three different versions. Unless their modus operandi is to merely use whatever leftover paper they can find, if they can find any at all. Hahahaha!
Anyway, both King KDS stones were damaged on arrival. Because they're delicate and because Amazon.com provides minimal packing. I was going to try again and order from a private seller on ebay, but the one seller I started researching, I found through looking at their feedback that they're drop-shipping from Amazon.
After all that, I took a look at more expensive stones that I knew would work with the tougher steels AND come in a hard plastic box. I got the Shapton stones because I heard that they stay flat longer and are harder than regular water stones. They arrived in one piece, but my first experience wasn't positive. I can't imagine how soft the King stones are if the Shaptons are this soft. I wish I'd just gotten diamond plates.
@@RobinDobbie diamond plates can really only go to about 1200 grit, which is fine for kitchen knives, but not really fine enough if you are polishing or honing, especially if doing straight razors
@@Tallnerdyguy But for the grits that diamond plates are available, I don't see the point in stone equivalents. And DMT has an 8000 plate. Seems they used to have a 4000, but I don't see it now. I know some people just go to 1200 and then strop with diamond paste or even good old fashioned rouge on leather.
Plus some stones are a pain to babysit. Can't leave them in water more than 10 minutes, can't leave them out in the shop where it gets cold, can't dry them off with a fan, can't leave them where the sunshine will fall on them, can't sharpen certain things on them due to gouging issues... the list goes on...
@@duronboy2 depends on the stone.... The shapton pro (horomaku or such) are splash and go, or 3 min soak, but in using both diamond stones (which i had used for years, before whetstones became more readily available/less costly) and whetstones, i find i get much better results (especially for razors) on whetstones. I do still use diamond stones for my kitchen staff, but only because i am not worried about one of my cooks mistreating them. At home, I only use diamond stones to flatten my whetstones or to re bevel
I’m thinking to follow your recommendation on Chosera 800. Is it necessary to buy a polishing stone (e.g. Chosera 3000)? Can I get away without a polishing stone?
I recommend you looking at the suehiro cerax medium and the suehiro rika 5000 stones. They are ceramic and Burrfection reviewed them as one of the best stones.
Are all these stones made to soak in water before u sharpen knives?
I’m gonna buy a couple of whetstones, what brand would you recommend?
start here kit.com/Burrfection/knife-kit. those are the stones i have reviewed and liked, so far.
I really wished you'd just touched on your opinion of the 6000 portion of the King 1000/6000.
He does a full review of it and compares it to another 1000/6000
Do you live in the usa, you have great great info, can you do demo on how to get started sharpening as I really want to learn the rite way without developing bad habits so including what not to do and a couple or a few reasons why not.... thank touch for the care you put into your videos...
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Kia Ora Ricky, I was wondering if I can ask you for advice. My 2 work horses are Tojiro shirogami 240mm gyuto and funayuki super aogami 120mm (cant remember who made it). I've had them for some years and only been using #1000 Tojiro whetstone to sharpen around once a month. Only once I started watching your channel, I somewhat realized to get razor sharp edge, I need higher grade stone or polishing stone. What would be suitable grit and reasonably price stone for my knife to achieve razor sharp edge? My average weekly work, I do about 10kg to 20kg of mixed large veg and meat chopping with my gyuto. Around 15kg of mainly fruit peeling, smaller veg and some meat trimming with my funayuki. Thanks in advance mate!
if you want a kasumi (hazy ) finish, go with the rika 5000 , if you want glossy, go with the Kitayama 8000
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Burrfection can i go straight from #1000 to a #5000 / #8000? Or do I have to some polishing on a #3000 first?
you can go straight to 5000 and/or 8000. i will do a video covering that topic soon
Burrfection oh yeah pleaze!
I'm using these sharpening stones to polish rocks do you have any recommendations
use a rock polisher with sand?
Hey I am sharpening mostly pocketknives and kitchen knives . Will the king 1000/6000 be sufficient for this purpose or do I need more then one stone ?
if that's what you have, just keep using it. if you want to pick something up, you can go through my list and see what fist your budget kit.com/Burrfection/knife-kit
I have nothing yet besides a stop . I am looking to put together the bare minimum on a budget to get my knives super sharp !
Burrfection actually which grit stones or stone should I buy first ?
I think the superstone works best in this category because I really don’t like using a 1000 to set a bevel. 1000 grits to me are a stopgap polish
You should really be using a 320-400-600 to set a bevel, 1000 is for touchup/resharpen.
I'm dead set on buying the Naniwa professional stones (chosera). Looking to buy a set of 3 stones. Which 3 grits would you recommend?
honestly, my favorite is the 800 and 3000 amzn.to/2f9VHUu. get these first, and THEN decide which grit is more important. these two will cover 90% of what you'll need, and if you have more knives that require lots of work then get a lower grit. if all your knives are in great shape, and you simply want to keep their edge super clean, then go above the 3000.
I'm new to sharpening where can I buy a good quality stones and how much mite I be paying
kit.com/Burrfection/knife-kit
Regarding the super stone, I don't think its fair to say its smoother than the other 1K stones especially if you say the grit rating is more like a 3K. I would make the "smooth" comparison only between stones that share the same true grit levels. Doesn't make sense for something looking at a 1K and buy that stone barbecue its supposed to feel smooth but is really a 3K stone. Hope that made sense? :-)
Hi Ryky! I’ve first came to your channel watching the cheap knife/expensive stone vs expensive knife/cheap stone experiment! I thought I subbed to you back then, but alas. After that, you got me hooked on knife sharpening hehehe.
Just now I watching one of your repair vids and saw you ‘only’ used up to the 320 grid whetstone. I just bought a decent 3000/8000 stone, do you still recommend going all the way up to 8000-12000 when sharpening knives to perfection or is the coarser 300-2000 range actually enough?
8000+ is really for polishing, sharpening should be done in the 800-1000 range
i have an unmarked stone, except for the base which says its a king stone. looks exactly like the furthest right chosera 800 in your video. Can anyone confirm and is it a soak or splash and go?
throw water on it, and it all the water soaks up in the fist 20-30 seconds, it's probably a soaking stone.
Hi! I've never used a Sharpening stone before and I really want to strart but I don't know which stone could be the best for me. As i can see in your video you love Chosera sharpening stones and I think that are fantastic and I thought to buy these as first sharpening stone but now after whatching this video I don't know if it's the right thing to do... what do you think? i'm a beginner so which stone cuold be the best for me?
I personally would ask myself what type of knives I have that need sharpening. If you have more expensive knives with a harder steel I would get the Choseras as the abrasives cut the steel much better than king stones. If you do not have knives that require hard abrasives the Kings would do just fine for now. Hope that helps!
i bought a new dalstrong shogun santoku but is the only one of this type that I have
If the knife steel is something like AUS-8 or VG-10 the king stones should be alright for cutting the steel when sharpening. I think it would be good beginner stones for "softer" steels.
conCQuence yes the steel is vg10 so the king is not good right?
King should be fine for VG-10, but not for harder steels as the steel will not sharpen great and the stone will get eaten up.
Question about the 800 that feels like a 1000. If the scratch patterns are the same as a 3000. Then shouldn’t it be considered a polishing stone? If not what makes it still be in the sharpening category?
it CAN be, depending on who you talk to. some people will say that 3000 is still considered a sharpening stone, and that a 6000 grit stone is a "coarse or low" polishing stone. but, since i'm going by marked grit ratings, its' here.
Burrfection thanks makes sense. So for further clarification, if I wanted a true 1,000 grit for sharpening I should avoid that one?
i use a chosera 800 for sharpening, , and sometimes the cerax 1k. i don't think you have to avoid this grit. even if most brands may vary a bit, it's still a very useful grit to have.
Could you please list the names of the stones??
he should add captions for every stone or knife he's talking about
Are both the naniwa stones splash and go?
yes
Hello Ryky,
I have a question that needed your sharpening experiences. I have bought myself a used Chosera 800. Its has a cracks in the middle of the stone and some chips at the corners. The crack in the middle is pretty deep, right now only the glue at the base keep the stone together. Everything else just like new except for the crack. Is it huge factor that lower the performance of the stone? Or is it okay to keep and use it? I need your help thanks.
hey, you are the 3rd or 4th person that has brought this up to my attention. i have used my choseras for.... nearly 2 years, and none of them have cracks...... i don't think the micro cracks should give you any problems UNLESS you blade is actually "biting" or getting caught by them. unless that happens, i'm sure you are fine using them.
I am confused as to how long to sharpen a knife. I was watching Chef Hiro sharpen a knife and he took 10 to 15 minutes to sharpen and the same to polish. You said six passes. What am I missing?
Randy Guthrie Each knife is different, some will take longer to sharpen. Sharpen enough to full Apex the edge. If you're using edge trailing strokes, you'll know you've apexed the edge because you'll feel a burr. Do this as you progress through the grits. Try to remove the burr on the stones before using a strop.
Randy Guthrie
Why would you stop at 6? Get your lazy ass up and whet that knife pronto. 10 reps 50 sets. Do it in less than an hour
you should see how fast Bob Kramer sharpens a knife. He takes max 5 min for one knife
SUEHIRO NAGURA TOISHI Touch-Up & Slurry for Water stone Sharpening Stone Japan #3000 solve your problem.
Please always mention the price
The holy trinity - Chosera 800, 3000, Snow White 8000 🙏🏼
Where do you buy these stones???
The internet.
I would like to see the names of the stones because I miss what he called them. I guess I see better than I hear.
Hy RyKy ...
I have enjoyed your video's. I have been looking at ALL options to sharpen my new Dalstrong Shogun X chef knife when the time comes. I found it very interesting about the TREND diamond sharpeners. Is there any reason why you dont use super high quality Diamond sharpeners? What do you think about precision sharpeners that hold things in perfect alignment? I do not know if I could be as accurate as you are with out a lot of practice. I really dont have the luxury of taking hours to learn your finely honed skills! BTW sub'd and thumbs up!
since i first picked up a diamond stone, i have not really used anything else so that would be maybe 20 years or so, i forget. They're game changers. They cut VERY quickly, they work on all blade steels roughly the same speed (try that with a high carbon blade on natural stone) they don't wear down in the middle so they don't need to be dressed and flattened out. The only thing you can't do is get a mirror polished edge but use my knives, not look at them.
littlegoogie.....thanks for your input! ANYONE else care to share their experiences?
What grit is Good for chissles?
kind of a broad question. for fixing, 120-220, for sharpening 700-1200, polishing 3000-6000.
Thank you for a great intro to sharpening stones. I made a little mistake and bought the cheep King 1000/6000 stone combo.
It is not that bad, as I am a beginner. I can actually get a working edge on my camping Moras and my EDC for cutting plastic and cardboard, I am a painter.
What stone would you recommend for finishing a stainless steel scandi?
Cheers