Thank you so much for taking the time in your videos. This one as always is brilliantly taught and explained and the strength test at the end is extremely useful. Thanks again I’ve been a subscriber since 100k subs and glad to see your subscriber base is growing fast.
You are welcome! It's great to get a positive comment like this one, as some people are not too happy about plasterboard fixing videos! Thanks for the comment and for being a long time subscriber 👍
Great video. I’ve just ordered some of these fixings to hang my two expansion vessels onto a metal stud wall where I can’t go into the studs (there’s only one in the back of the cupboard anyway). The plumbers that had the contract off Redrow homes fitted two vessels using an off cut of MDF skirting and some plastic wall plus and it started to come away from the wall after (after a few years mind). These fixings should hold nicely.
Seem like really good fixings. I'd be interested to see that weight test again but with the back piece orientated horizontally to see if it changes the breaking point
I've tested a lot of fixings out in the past, these work ok, but there are better fixings ruclips.net/video/ECDysfNhx_E/видео.html ruclips.net/video/Cfb3vHeWb0M/видео.html Thanks for the comment 👍
I've always used original Snap Toggle fixing which are brilliant. Not sure I would swap due to the hassle of pull string 2 small screws etc. That said I think I'll get some and try them although as an audio engineer it will be hard to move away from Snap toggles simply because they are easy to install and hold very similar, if not more weight. Good void showing this product though.
Thanks for posting this. I don't know how well these would work for my task--to support a hose reel onto vinyl siding with OSB behind it. But these do sure hold the load well. My issue will be the siding buckling when tightening the screws. But I might still give these a go if all else fails.
i was sharpening up my inch wide chisel yesterday with a slate and oil block. doesn't sound very interesting. but they were given to me by my next door neighbour shortly before she died. she was 103 and a half and they belonged to her father. he was a master carpenter and plasterer. it's mad that i'm using tools that are probably over 150 years old and they still do the job.
I will be ordering these to hang a tv. These seem to have been designed to eliminate 'torn' drywall fails because they have the full round plastic thread plug that fills the hole that has been drilled thus minimising the drilled compromised drilled drywall. This I believe is where most of the other fixings fail in there design, and seems strange that the other companies have not picked up on this!??.
I have tested a lot of plasterboard fixings. These came in 4th position- www.ultimatehandyman.co.uk/forum1/viewtopic.php?p=858117&hilit=plasterboard+fixings#p858117 👍
I can't believe plastic fixings can hold roughly 275Lbs. That's pretty good, I think. I'm usually able to find the framing to fix heavy items to the wall, but I think I'll start using these instead of toggle bolts to fix to drywall now. Thanks for the info!
+Matt Hayes Yes, it is pretty unbelievable. If you were fixing something wider than the brackets I used you could probably hold a lot more!Thanks for the comment
Very impressive. Seems a bit of a faff though if your hunting round for your drill and screw and holding on to the string. But if you want to hang a rad use this! Might have to keep a few in the Van!
Great Video, looks like you did the same test as they did on their website with those blocks etc, and they had people hanging off shelves. The price isn't too bad either as you get all the fittings, screws etc and a pack of 4 for £8.95. Take Care, Barry (from West Kirby, Wirral)
Great video & these fixings look awesome. I'm only seeing demonstrations on walls,I've got heavy blinds to fit in recess & brackets only designed to fit screws above & not to the side.Have you or anyone else tested this method,would love to know the results.Cheers
I've never tested them in that situation. These would only work if there was a space above, most of the houses that I work on have solid internal walls. Thanks for the comment 👍
@@ultimatehandyman Thank you for your reply.Yes there's a massive void.Brand new house,but has a strange finish as the recess is made of some type of PVC.Very difficult to describe without attaching photos or video.So there's literally nothing to drill into, to fit the blind.So I'm gonna try these fixings & modify the original brackets so I can fix them not only to the top of the recess but also to the side.
Being as i'm just 'The Hurler on the Ditch' just wondering if the GeeFix fittings were positioned horizontally rather vertical to the brackets on the back of the plaster board would they have even carried a greater weight...not that it matters... Great upload...
Gyproc have new product called Habito which is stronger plasterboard and allows you to fix things like tv wall brackets directly to the wall with a standard wood screw.
Looks like an awesome product, would be perfect for fixing large TVs, or for replacing smaller fixings that have failed. In your test it looks like the plasterboard failed, not the fixings. I reckon if you oriented them horizontally, rather than vertically, you'd get substantially more weight on there. Thanks for sharing 👍
Interesting. Also worth noting that the fixing would fail at a lower load, if the bricks etc weren't stacked right against the wall. The failure load in your experiment is a "best case scenario" as the bricks etc are right against the wall, but when assessing failure loads it is best to look at the "worst case scenario" loading. A good experiment though.
+Aman A Absolutely, there are a lot of variables when testing fixings like this such as the thickness of the bracket etc and the length of the brackets. Thanks for the comment
I’ve used some gripits. They are ok to use but in retrospect, I wish I had used these. I’d be more confident that they are doing exactly what I think they are doing behind the scenes. The gripits - I was never quite sure that the wings had expanded and rotated correctly. TV is till up but I still worry.
Ultimate Handyman No worries. Keep up the good work. Your videos are excellent. The guys at Geefix should use them as advertising and training material.
+Ultimate Handyman Thanks for the reply. My to vesa pattern is 400x400 shall I fix them on 1 sheet as in 1 section of the plaster board or over 2 section of the wall like overlapping it?
Very informative video as usual, thanks for that. How would you rate these versus snap toggles? I have an insulated plasterboard (38mm insulation)and need to hang a 1200mm double radiator. I have bought some snap toggles, but these look very good... just wondering what your thoughts on which would be better suited for this kind of job. Thanks.
If there is a solid wall behind I would use this method- ruclips.net/video/7DGGUbbbBZI/видео.html Insulated plasterboard can be difficult to fix to as the insulation can compress, loosening the fixing. Perhaps GripIt fixings would be better (if it's not a solid wall behind the plasterboard) ruclips.net/video/szx7nMRZSIY/видео.html You would also need the GripIt undercutting tool to cut away the insulation from around the hole.
Hi. I am wanting to use these for a tv bracket but the plasterboard is at least double the thickness to that of standard 10mm plasterboard. Will I be able to get the plastic piece through the double thickness hole? I’m assuming if I can, I just need to use a longer screw to pull it together??
I’m not 100% certain. I would use snap toggles/zip fix fixings- ruclips.net/video/4r_MsgkXsBA/видео.html&pp You can get longer screws for those if necessary. You do need room behind the plasterboard, to be able to get the snap toggle to work though! This is worth a watch too - ruclips.net/video/glzwY76O0d8/видео.html&t
What I like about these fixings is their strength... but what I don't like is the price and the fact that they have such a large disc at the front. The size seems necessary, but in several videos I have viewed on these fixings, there always seems to be some crushing (fracturing) of the plasterboard around the edges - especially at the bottom. I'm guessing that the curvature of the bar at the back is possibly a little too much - or the depth of the circular piece is not quite enough to bottom out onto the bar. (more likely) When the screws have pulled the bar fully in, there is (probably) still a gap to fill. Maybe this is because the depth is not enough. Seems to me, that the depth of the cylindrical part has to be exactly right - to match the thickness of the plasterboard including the paper coatings - otherwise the board can't cope with the pressure of the curved edges. Hope you get what I mean. I was thinking of buying 10 of these, but they come in packs of 4 or 8. Meaning I would have to buy 12 and pay for 2 I don't need - and at a total cost of about £24. That's £2 each (and £4 of that total "wasted")
I'd use snap toggles/zip fix fixings to be honest, they are one of the best fixings that I have tested ruclips.net/video/4r_MsgkXsBA/видео.html £6 for a pack of ten - fave.co/3dUkN59
Great demo as usual! Got a few questions if you don't mind! Does the fixing fit flush with the plasterboard? Also what size of screws can be used with that fixing? Any 3-5mm screws? Looks like you were using wood screws with the bracket?
+Faisal Y Hi Faisal, Yes the fixing sits flush with the plasterboard. You can use any screws you like, I think they are supplied with about 1.5 inch by eight wood screws, but you could use longer ones. Thanks for the comment
You can do, or you can find the joists for heavy items. You can find the joists by locating the screw heads with a magnet- ruclips.net/video/h1adPjsah5w/видео.html&t Thanks for the comment 👍
My builder decided to not put my ceiling light rose near a beam and as such can't take any weight for a chandelier etc. Would this be a suitable solution?
+Tahir Ahmad No, for a chandelier you need to put something solid between the joists by lifting the floorboards above. You could use a piece of plywood and two off cuts of 3*2 timber or similar to make something to fit in the gaps between the joists, depending on the weight of the chandelier
Ultimate Handyman thank you for letting me know. We have just moved house and all the walls is plaster board and not solid walls. So having to hang a telly on the wall is going to be fun. Thanks again for getting back to me.
Every now and then some gismo comes along and they change everything. They are normally invented by guys who work on the tools. This is one of them. The weight test said it all. I actually think they could have held more if they had been orientated horizontally instead of vertically. Check the video at the end and see how the plasterboard broke and you will see what I mean. Good video, great test.
Thanks, but it's difficult to get the orientation right for every single installation. This video tested out several popular fixings and surprisingly one of the cheapest fixings performed best- ruclips.net/video/ECDysfNhx_E/видео.html Thanks for the comment
@ultimatehandyman I just recently bought myself an 82" flat screen tv that only weighs 98lbs the lighting bracket that came with it is 30" wide. I bought a pack of 4 off these fixings. Im gonna obviously going to install them at each corner of the bracket, spreading the load as best as I can. 4 of these should be just fine? Thanks
Arturo - how did you get on with the 82" TV with these fixings ... I have got a 75" TV (around 30Kg - which is around 70lbs), that I would also like to wallmount
If I was using these to put I am TV bracket (I am planning to) am I ok to use the screw that comes with them rather then something larger like the big coach screw that is inteneded to go into the stud?
For a 50" TV, I would not rely on any plasterboard fixing. Please watch these two videos (posted on your other comment to) Hang heavy items to plasterboard - ruclips.net/video/glzwY76O0d8/видео.html&t Real life example here- ruclips.net/video/awuqDum0ay8/видео.html&t
+Christian Defazio Perhaps, but it was the width of the brackets that made it fail as the bottom of them seemed to push through the plasterboard causing the failure. There are a lot of variables with jobs like this, so there are several ways the job could fail.Thanks for the comment
Hi, yes I have. Grip-It- ruclips.net/video/szx7nMRZSIY/видео.html This videos shows how well each fixing performs before the plasterboard fails- ruclips.net/video/ECDysfNhx_E/видео.html If possible though, you should always fix a TV to at least one stud- ruclips.net/video/glzwY76O0d8/видео.html Real life example here- ruclips.net/video/awuqDum0ay8/видео.html Thanks for the comment 👍
Yes, but here are some alternatives too- ruclips.net/video/glzwY76O0d8/видео.html&t ruclips.net/video/mIEY3E4fiDk/видео.html&t Thanks for the comment 👍
Thanks, I think the screw supplied with them is about an inch and a half by 8 I think if you used a larger diameter screw you would struggle as it is quite difficult to get the screw to cut the thread in the GeeFix initially, although you might be able to enlarge the hole with a drill. Thanks for the comment
would you say these are not very clever if you have a bracket that has 3 holes in very close proximity to each other ? you would not be able to cut 3 x 25mm holes out.
These are a basic but large snap toggle. Can you get the back peace through the hole at an angle as to not hit the other side of the plasterboard and not be able to get it through
Would you trust these enough to hang your brand new 50 odd inch 4 k tv with 😜I never thought about worrying about the strength of the drywall more so than fixing s themselves
I wouldn't fix a 50" tv to plasterboard no matter what fixing I was using. The implications of a tv falling are too serious if it lands on someone, especially a child. Also, if the bracket is a pull out or swivel, the fixings will get a serious test. Any fixing is only as strong as the plasterboard. You can usually find a stud to get a couple of decent fixings on but may need to move the bracket to suit the wall or drill a couple of holes in the bracket to line up.
I guess the initial hole in the plasterboard weakens it significantly. Snap toggles are still my favourite plasterboard fixing ;-) Thanks for the comment 👍
Walls insulated with rock wool or king span and that's going to be a nightmare. Can't see the lads who have to wear gloves on sites, being too impressed with doing a weaving loom class just to get a fixing.
I've only come across egg box partitions once, I used GripIt fixings along with their undercutting tool. ruclips.net/video/-geib-6sa3M/видео.html Thanks for the comment
Thank you so much for taking the time in your videos. This one as always is brilliantly taught and explained and the strength test at the end is extremely useful. Thanks again I’ve been a subscriber since 100k subs and glad to see your subscriber base is growing fast.
You are welcome! It's great to get a positive comment like this one, as some people are not too happy about plasterboard fixing videos!
Thanks for the comment and for being a long time subscriber 👍
Great video. I’ve just ordered some of these fixings to hang my two expansion vessels onto a metal stud wall where I can’t go into the studs (there’s only one in the back of the cupboard anyway). The plumbers that had the contract off Redrow homes fitted two vessels using an off cut of MDF skirting and some plastic wall plus and it started to come away from the wall after (after a few years mind). These fixings should hold nicely.
I'm glad the video helped
Thanks for the comment 👍
Seem like really good fixings. I'd be interested to see that weight test again but with the back piece orientated horizontally to see if it changes the breaking point
I've tested a lot of fixings out in the past, these work ok, but there are better fixings
ruclips.net/video/ECDysfNhx_E/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/Cfb3vHeWb0M/видео.html
Thanks for the comment 👍
Not one of the best but the best plasterboard fixing ever 👍👍
Used these yesterday and it does exactly what it says on the tin ,absolutely brilliant 👍👍
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Hi
Do you think it would be a good idea for kitchen cabinets
I've always used original Snap Toggle fixing which are brilliant. Not sure I would swap due to the hassle of pull string 2 small screws etc. That said I think I'll get some and try them although as an audio engineer it will be hard to move away from Snap toggles simply because they are easy to install and hold very similar, if not more weight. Good void showing this product though.
Thanks for posting this. I don't know how well these would work for my task--to support a hose reel onto vinyl siding with OSB behind it. But these do sure hold the load well. My issue will be the siding buckling when tightening the screws. But I might still give these a go if all else fails.
Thanks for the comment 👍
i was sharpening up my inch wide chisel yesterday with a slate and oil block. doesn't sound very interesting. but they were given to me by my next door neighbour shortly before she died. she was 103 and a half and they belonged to her father. he was a master carpenter and plasterer. it's mad that i'm using tools that are probably over 150 years old and they still do the job.
+TheJeremyevans That's brilliant. You might also be able to pass them on ;-)
I will be ordering these to hang a tv.
These seem to have been designed to eliminate 'torn' drywall fails because they have the full round plastic thread plug that fills the hole that has been drilled thus minimising the drilled compromised drilled drywall. This I believe is where most of the other fixings fail in there design, and seems strange that the other companies have not picked up on this!??.
I have tested a lot of plasterboard fixings. These came in 4th position-
www.ultimatehandyman.co.uk/forum1/viewtopic.php?p=858117&hilit=plasterboard+fixings#p858117
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I can't believe plastic fixings can hold roughly 275Lbs. That's pretty good, I think. I'm usually able to find the framing to fix heavy items to the wall, but I think I'll start using these instead of toggle bolts to fix to drywall now. Thanks for the info!
+Matt Hayes Yes, it is pretty unbelievable. If you were fixing something wider than the brackets I used you could probably hold a lot more!Thanks for the comment
Very impressive. Seems a bit of a faff though if your hunting round for your drill and screw and holding on to the string. But if you want to hang a rad use this! Might have to keep a few in the Van!
+Zed Man
Yes, they are a bit fiddly to begin with but very useful.
Thanks for the comment
Could do with having something like cable tie system so they hold in position when pulled right.
That impact sounds like sweep of sooty and sweep lol 👍🍰🇬🇧
LOL, thanks for the comment Wayne ;-)
Had to re-watch just to check :).
Great Video, looks like you did the same test as they did on their website with those blocks etc, and they had people hanging off shelves. The price isn't too bad either as you get all the fittings, screws etc and a pack of 4 for £8.95. Take Care, Barry (from West Kirby, Wirral)
+Barry Roberts
Thanks Barry. I don't think the guy in their video is as heavy as me LOL.
They are very good fixings ;-)
Thanks for the comment
Brilliant! Thanks for this. Just what I needed to hang a bit of a heavy wooden CD and DVD shelf that I have made.
I’m glad you found the video useful
Thanks for the comment 👍
Very impressed with the fixings, I'll look to have a few of those
+Andy Anderson
Thanks for the comment
Your vids are top class
Thank you ;-)
Great video & these fixings look awesome. I'm only seeing demonstrations on walls,I've got heavy blinds to fit in recess & brackets only designed to fit screws above & not to the side.Have you or anyone else tested this method,would love to know the results.Cheers
I've never tested them in that situation.
These would only work if there was a space above, most of the houses that I work on have solid internal walls.
Thanks for the comment 👍
@@ultimatehandyman
Thank you for your reply.Yes there's a massive void.Brand new house,but has a strange finish as the recess is made of some type of PVC.Very difficult to describe without attaching photos or video.So there's literally nothing to drill into, to fit the blind.So I'm gonna try these fixings & modify the original brackets so I can fix them not only to the top of the recess but also to the side.
I love empirical results - thanks for sharing! 👍👍👍👍
Thanks for the comment
Excellent fittings.
However I don't fancy finding a tile bit that can cut a hole thru 25mm of tile as well as plasterboard.
+Meester Chris You can get diamond coted hole saws that size but a different fixing might be easier ;-)
+Ultimate Handyman
Used 10mm and that was £20 for 8 holes use before blunt.
Hate to think of the coast of a 25mm diamond bit!
That is some clever bloke who invented that, very interesting!
+jusb1066
Yes, it's a great idea.
Thanks for the comment
Being as i'm just 'The Hurler on the Ditch' just wondering if the GeeFix fittings were positioned horizontally rather vertical to the brackets on the back of the plaster board would they have even carried a greater weight...not that it matters... Great upload...
Possibly, Thanks for the comment
Gyproc have new product called Habito which is stronger plasterboard and allows you to fix things like tv wall brackets directly to the wall with a standard wood screw.
+Paul Mcgeoch Thanks Paul, I'll look out for that in future ;-)
Very impressive and quite reasonably priced too, if you need a really heavy duty fixing for say a TV.
+caskwith
Absolutely.
Thanks for the comment
Really interesting just wondering if putting back piece in a horizontal position would that not have carried even more weight ?
It might have done, I'm sure that GeeFix install them this way in their demo video though.
Thanks for the comment
Looks like an awesome product, would be perfect for fixing large TVs, or for replacing smaller fixings that have failed.
In your test it looks like the plasterboard failed, not the fixings.
I reckon if you oriented them horizontally, rather than vertically, you'd get substantially more weight on there.
Thanks for sharing 👍
You are better off fixing to at least one stud, if possible-
ruclips.net/video/glzwY76O0d8/видео.html&t
Thanks for the comment 👍
Interesting. Also worth noting that the fixing would fail at a lower load, if the bricks etc weren't stacked right against the wall. The failure load in your experiment is a "best case scenario" as the bricks etc are right against the wall, but when assessing failure loads it is best to look at the "worst case scenario" loading. A good experiment though.
+Aman A
Absolutely, there are a lot of variables when testing fixings like this such as the thickness of the bracket etc and the length of the brackets.
Thanks for the comment
sorry Chez ..was thinking B.G.T...Golden buzzer till last few seconds...good video as usual..
+Eddie Prout
Ha Ha, thanks for the comment
I’ve used some gripits. They are ok to use but in retrospect, I wish I had used these. I’d be more confident that they are doing exactly what I think they are doing behind the scenes. The gripits - I was never quite sure that the wings had expanded and rotated correctly. TV is till up but I still worry.
Yes, you never know about the wings- as you can't see them. I am sure they will be fine ;-)
Thanks for the comment
Ultimate Handyman No worries. Keep up the good work. Your videos are excellent. The guys at Geefix should use them as advertising and training material.
Hmmm, gap between breeze brick wall and plaster board is very tight, so tight in fact, I can't push through the fixing, can they bend enough?
Hammer worked lol
Hi buddy will this product support a coat rack????
Yes, it should do, but ideally you would fix to at least one of the studs.
Thanks for the comment 👍
So would these be able to hold any more weight fitted horizontally rather than vertically do you think?? Time for more testing?!
Not sure, perhaps Geefix could do that test.
Thanks for the comment 👍
Hi mate great video and review.
Will these be ok for a 65 inch tv weighing about 20-25 kg?
+Amin H Yes, they should easily hold it.Plasterboard Fixings weight test can be seen here- ruclips.net/video/ECDysfNhx_E/видео.html
+Ultimate Handyman
Thanks for the reply. My to vesa pattern is 400x400 shall I fix them on 1 sheet as in 1 section of the plaster board or over 2 section of the wall like overlapping it?
Another great video thanks ..
+mango3586 Thanks for the comment ;-)
Very informative video as usual, thanks for that. How would you rate these versus snap toggles? I have an insulated plasterboard (38mm insulation)and need to hang a 1200mm double radiator. I have bought some snap toggles, but these look very good... just wondering what your thoughts on which would be better suited for this kind of job. Thanks.
If there is a solid wall behind I would use this method- ruclips.net/video/7DGGUbbbBZI/видео.html
Insulated plasterboard can be difficult to fix to as the insulation can compress, loosening the fixing.
Perhaps GripIt fixings would be better (if it's not a solid wall behind the plasterboard) ruclips.net/video/szx7nMRZSIY/видео.html
You would also need the GripIt undercutting tool to cut away the insulation from around the hole.
Thanks for that - there is a gap and a solid wall behind the insulated plaster board, the space-plug looks like it would be best.
Cheers.
You are welcome ;-)
Hi. I am wanting to use these for a tv bracket but the plasterboard is at least double the thickness to that of standard 10mm plasterboard. Will I be able to get the plastic piece through the double thickness hole? I’m assuming if I can, I just need to use a longer screw to pull it together??
I’m not 100% certain. I would use snap toggles/zip fix fixings-
ruclips.net/video/4r_MsgkXsBA/видео.html&pp
You can get longer screws for those if necessary.
You do need room behind the plasterboard, to be able to get the snap toggle to work though!
This is worth a watch too - ruclips.net/video/glzwY76O0d8/видео.html&t
What I like about these fixings is their strength... but what I don't like is the price and the fact that they have such a large disc at the front. The size seems necessary, but in several videos I have viewed on these fixings, there always seems to be some crushing (fracturing) of the plasterboard around the edges - especially at the bottom. I'm guessing that the curvature of the bar at the back is possibly a little too much - or the depth of the circular piece is not quite enough to bottom out onto the bar. (more likely) When the screws have pulled the bar fully in, there is (probably) still a gap to fill. Maybe this is because the depth is not enough. Seems to me, that the depth of the cylindrical part has to be exactly right - to match the thickness of the plasterboard including the paper coatings - otherwise the board can't cope with the pressure of the curved edges. Hope you get what I mean. I was thinking of buying 10 of these, but they come in packs of 4 or 8. Meaning I would have to buy 12 and pay for 2 I don't need - and at a total cost of about £24. That's £2 each (and £4 of that total "wasted")
I'd use snap toggles/zip fix fixings to be honest, they are one of the best fixings that I have tested
ruclips.net/video/4r_MsgkXsBA/видео.html
£6 for a pack of ten - fave.co/3dUkN59
Great demo as usual! Got a few questions if you don't mind! Does the fixing fit flush with the plasterboard? Also what size of screws can be used with that fixing? Any 3-5mm screws? Looks like you were using wood screws with the bracket?
+Faisal Y
Hi Faisal, Yes the fixing sits flush with the plasterboard. You can use any screws you like, I think they are supplied with about 1.5 inch by eight wood screws, but you could use longer ones.
Thanks for the comment
@@ultimatehandymanwhat's that in metric?
What is the drill bit you used to cut the hole called (or link)? Can't find anything like it. Makes such a clean cut!
I used the Grip-It hole cutter, which is 25mm- fave.co/3oHEW49
So i will be able to add these to plaster board ceilling too for things like a projector, and projector screen?
You can do, or you can find the joists for heavy items. You can find the joists by locating the screw heads with a magnet- ruclips.net/video/h1adPjsah5w/видео.html&t
Thanks for the comment 👍
My builder decided to not put my ceiling light rose near a beam and as such can't take any weight for a chandelier etc. Would this be a suitable solution?
+Tahir Ahmad
No, for a chandelier you need to put something solid between the joists by lifting the floorboards above.
You could use a piece of plywood and two off cuts of 3*2 timber or similar to make something to fit in the gaps between the joists, depending on the weight of the chandelier
Would it still be easy to push in if you had plaster board both sides? As you didn’t have a back when you pushed the white plastic through the hole?
Yes, it will work fine in a standard cavity, unless it is a Paramount board, which only has a cavity of about 1.5 to 2 inches.
Thanks for the comment
Ultimate Handyman thank you for letting me know. We have just moved house and all the walls is plaster board and not solid walls. So having to hang a telly on the wall is going to be fun. Thanks again for getting back to me.
Every now and then some gismo comes along and they change everything. They are normally invented by guys who work on the tools. This is one of them. The weight test said it all. I actually think they could have held more if they had been orientated horizontally instead of vertically. Check the video at the end and see how the plasterboard broke and you will see what I mean.
Good video, great test.
Thanks, but it's difficult to get the orientation right for every single installation.
This video tested out several popular fixings and surprisingly one of the cheapest fixings performed best-
ruclips.net/video/ECDysfNhx_E/видео.html
Thanks for the comment
Point taken. Even how you had it, it was super impressive, I can't think we would need more than it provided.
Absolutely.
Thanks for the comments ;-)
@ultimatehandyman I just recently bought myself an 82" flat screen tv that only weighs 98lbs the lighting bracket that came with it is 30" wide. I bought a pack of 4 off these fixings. Im gonna obviously going to install them at each corner of the bracket, spreading the load as best as I can. 4 of these should be just fine? Thanks
I'd try to find the studs if possible- ruclips.net/video/glzwY76O0d8/видео.html
Arturo - how did you get on with the 82" TV with these fixings ... I have got a 75" TV (around 30Kg - which is around 70lbs), that I would also like to wallmount
If I was using these to put I am TV bracket (I am planning to) am I ok to use the screw that comes with them rather then something larger like the big coach screw that is inteneded to go into the stud?
For a 50" TV, I would not rely on any plasterboard fixing.
Please watch these two videos (posted on your other comment to)
Hang heavy items to plasterboard - ruclips.net/video/glzwY76O0d8/видео.html&t
Real life example here- ruclips.net/video/awuqDum0ay8/видео.html&t
Thank you
You are welcome
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Do you thing they would have held more weight if the plugs were horizontal??
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+Christian Defazio Perhaps, but it was the width of the brackets that made it fail as the bottom of them seemed to push through the plasterboard causing the failure. There are a lot of variables with jobs like this, so there are several ways the job could fail.Thanks for the comment
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Do you think it would be a good idea for kitchen cabinets
No, I would try to find the studs in the wall and maybe use long hanging rails, similar to this-
tinyurl.com/ymw74kve
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Very nice. I typically do something similar with pieces of scraping, but this is a much more elegant solution.
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Good idea. Easy to make your own out of wood.
Used these . Brilliant
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Hi, have you done a review on gripit and how it compares to geefix as i have not yet installed my tv and wondering whether to try geefix out
Hi, yes I have.
Grip-It- ruclips.net/video/szx7nMRZSIY/видео.html
This videos shows how well each fixing performs before the plasterboard fails- ruclips.net/video/ECDysfNhx_E/видео.html
If possible though, you should always fix a TV to at least one stud- ruclips.net/video/glzwY76O0d8/видео.html
Real life example here- ruclips.net/video/awuqDum0ay8/видео.html
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My tv weights about 12 kg and my wall is a plasterboard wall will these work and hold up my tv
Yes, but here are some alternatives too-
ruclips.net/video/glzwY76O0d8/видео.html&t
ruclips.net/video/mIEY3E4fiDk/видео.html&t
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Was that a failure of the fixings at 125kg or a failure of the plasterboard?
Plasterboard.
Ultimate Handyman Brilliant. Thanks for the reply.
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Hey man, thanks for the video. What drill are you using mate?
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I used the Dewalt 18v impact driver in this video- ruclips.net/video/Nji4FEFby6I/видео.html
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excellent demo
what is the max size screws that can be used?
Thanks, I think the screw supplied with them is about an inch and a half by 8
I think if you used a larger diameter screw you would struggle as it is quite difficult to get the screw to cut the thread in the GeeFix initially, although you might be able to enlarge the hole with a drill.
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Respect, you are surely on the way of becoming the Encyclopedia an authority on HOW TO DIY. Really keep up the good work
Thank you ;-)
would you say these are not very clever if you have a bracket that has 3 holes in very close proximity to each other ? you would not be able to cut 3 x 25mm holes out.
Yes, they are pretty much useless if the holes are close together.
This might give you some ideas- ruclips.net/video/glzwY76O0d8/видео.html
These are a basic but large snap toggle. Can you get the back peace through the hole at an angle as to not hit the other side of the plasterboard and not be able to get it through
+robert swingler
Apparently these will fit into a 30mm cavity, so they should work in almost every partition wall.
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Would you trust these enough to hang your brand new 50 odd inch 4 k tv with 😜I never thought about worrying about the strength of the drywall more so than fixing s themselves
+jerry o connor Yes as long as the fixing hole in the bracket were spaced apart as far as possible, it should be fine ;-)
I wouldn't fix a 50" tv to plasterboard no matter what fixing I was using. The implications of a tv falling are too serious if it lands on someone, especially a child. Also, if the bracket is a pull out or swivel, the fixings will get a serious test.
Any fixing is only as strong as the plasterboard. You can usually find a stud to get a couple of decent fixings on but may need to move the bracket to suit the wall or drill a couple of holes in the bracket to line up.
Very impressive!
+Richard Grave
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Good job..god bless you.
+Marwan Abu Tarieh
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Very nice useful video thnx
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+Ultimate Handyman thank you for replying
are these any good for tv wall brackets
+djstormo Yes, they will be fine ;-)
interesting, so the geefix isnt as strong as the wall toggle as shown in your other video weight test but it is more expensive, :/
I guess the initial hole in the plasterboard weakens it significantly.
Snap toggles are still my favourite plasterboard fixing ;-)
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nice...im going to order them
+holywar911
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+Eugene Belov
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very good it looked more like the plaster board failed more than the fixings
+terry987654
Thanks. Yes, if the brackets had been wider these fixings would have held much more weight.
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Walls insulated with rock wool or king span and that's going to be a nightmare. Can't see the lads who have to wear gloves on sites, being too impressed with doing a weaving loom class just to get a fixing.
125 kg/4 = 31.25 kg per bolt?
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what was the name of the guy who recommended the product?
Ian the inventor, not sure if that is all one word though "Iantheinventor"
Good vid, but how about on the MANY Wimpey houses with egg-shell between the walls? :-)
I've only come across egg box partitions once, I used GripIt fixings along with their undercutting tool.
ruclips.net/video/-geib-6sa3M/видео.html
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Cheers bud, there are many though lol! Bloody nightmare! They seem to have pre-built partitions with hardly any wood fixings. Hard to work with...
Checked ur link...it's some load of hassle mate, eh?
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