#Not_My_Lady_Jane
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My (sort-of) rant video about the new Amazon Prime show, My Lady Jane. It's not great. It's not even funny on its own merit. But to its credit (which I forgot to put in the video) the costumes may not be accurate but they were at least colourful and detailed. And they opted for more authentic Tudor-looking locations to film in instead of empty grey castles. But that alone can't save it from the bad acting and lack-lustre writing.
My speed draw of the Margaret of Anjou SIX persona is almost done and should find its way onto Tumblr shortly.
I'm more disappointed that Elizabeth's animal form wasn't a lion- like cmon that would have been perfect.
I think people just have to realize it’s meant to be fun and funny and not historically accurate at all. It’s easier for me to swallow than say, PG’s books, because no one is saying that this show is factual and only dialogue is made up. The authors and the showrunners aren’t saying that they are history experts. This show doesn’t take itself seriously, and the audience isn’t meant to either.
I don't think people expect 100% accuracy, but if you take a real story and change EVERYTHING about it - the plot, the realities, people's characters - and leave just the names... then what's the point of even using them? Just make a fictional story and let it stand on its own. It seems disrespectful to take real people (especially this specific person who died such an early violent death), who had their own real struggles, and present them as a fun fictional romp. For me it feels like a cheap attempt to monetise on the general interest in the Tudors while having no intention to respect the characters. If they wanted something fun, funny, and not historically accurate at all - they could've made it! Just change the names! No one would bat an eyelid! But if you claim that it's a retelling of the real story, you should stick to it in at least some aspects.
@@AW-uv3cb I don’t really see how it’s disrespectful. They like Jane as a historical figure and considering her tragic end, they wanted to write a fun and fantastical life for her. I think that’s kind of nice. When I was a kid, my dad used to tell me fantastical bedtime stories. I was always the main character and it was fun to imagine myself living those lives. This just reminds me of that.
Agreed. @@RiseeRee
@@RiseeReethey sexualized her a lot. she was just a teenage girl in real life, and she was a REAL person. felt so icky to me. plus i feel like this show was sort of marketed as “hey, jane grey’s life was so sad and lame, so we changed everything about it to make it more interesting!” sort of a disservice to the real jane in my opinion. plus i think she was depicted as an extreme “not like other girls” character, as in she was written like she was special and better than other women because she is intelligent and a virgin???? the opening scene was so fcking weird to me…
@@isabellaofangouleme3984 I agree, the first sentence alone put me off already..."History remembers her as the ultimate damsel in distress" = that's lame! But she really was! A young, clueless teenager being used as a pawn by the scheming adults around her. That's such an integral part of her story and what makes it so tragic and interesting :(
When you mentioned Lady Margaret Beaufort, I almost spit out my breakfast. I was also scratching my head wondering why Edward VI was a middle aged man, when he and Lady Jane were literally the same age. LOLz all around. Very funny video!
I honestly can understand a protective wish for Lady Jane Grey to have lived a long and happy life instead of being sacrificed for securing a disastrous political marriage, but This Fanficition was not the way to give it to her.
I hope the Actors had fun making it at least, but their time would have been better spent on a more accurate and compelling Tudor drama.
Fingers crossed that Season 2 of Wolf Hall is at least a worthwhile watch.
My advice? Watch Edward Bluemel in A Discovery of Witches instead.
Great insight to refer to it as a fanfic.
Where can one watch wolfhall?
It is fan fiction, but it came from a place of love for her. It seemed like a heartfelt tribute to her. The show has charm and at no point does it pretend to be history and that's ok, from my point of view. It made me realize that I can live with historical fiction that embraces either the history or the fiction and runs with one or the other, instead of pretending to be history when it's not. Plus, you could see details showing that they do know the real story, subtle hints and details.
I just pretended it was not the Tudors, but a random YA fantasy royal family XDXD (I mean they were SO VERY DIFFERENT from their historical selves, what was the point of calling them Jane, Mary or Bess? XDXD)
They really hid the shifter aspect of this show in the trailers. I didn’t know anything until a friend put up Jane learning guilford was ethian on twitter. And because I’ve only seen him as Marcus in discovery of witches, I said aloud “what the fuck, Marcus.”
I've been fascinated by Jane Grey for many years.....I think I shut this off within 10 minutes....I just couldn't......I'm glad you gave a rundown, as I don't have to watch it now.
Jane and her sisters are by far my favourite historical characters, but I actually liked the show. While it's not historically accurate, it seemed to me like a heartfelt tribute to her and that's something I really appreciated. It's unexpected, because I thought it was a really weird idea, but it worked. I'm usually in favour of accurate history and I would love to see a series/mini-series about her and her sisters' lives, but this was fine. It had an unexpected charm from my point of view.
Ngl, this show is a guilty pleasure. Is it good? No. Is it entertaining? Absolutely. 😅
I think entertaining = good and yes, I loved the show. At the end of the day the purpose of a comedy is first and foremost to entertain and it did just that.
Weren't both the Seymours actually dead when Jane was queen?
Yes, both Seymour’s had been executed by then.
At some point you have to wonder if they’re changing the history so much that it’s confusing for any person who likes the history, why not write a new story? If my knowledge of history is only going to be a hindrance then why is it based on history?
god i hated this show so much 😭 for so many reasons. but whenever i give valid criticism of it online, people attack me saying “well it’s fantasy, it’s not meant to be accurate!” a show intentionally being anachronistic does not inherently mean it’s GOOD just because it’s inaccuracies were intentional creative choices :/ plus there is a difference between taking creative liberties with a character and just completely degrading them. my lady jane completely degrades mary and it honestly disgusted me. idc that it’s fictional, this show was a massive disappointment, i have very little good to say about it tbh
I didn't even bother...I knew that I'd be yelling at my TV. Since I care about my blood pressure I stayed away.
I Loved the book so I was looking forward to this adaptation. I didn't make it through the first 10 minutes of the first episode. It was so different
I think it was fun. It’s a fantasy.
Yes, I also enjoyed it a lot.
This Elizabeth could have been SANSA STARK.
Soooo are the Mary I, Elizabeth I, Edward VI, & Henry VIII rankings coming soon? With these new ones? 👀
The worst part is that it's nothing like the book either. I went reluctantly into the book and ended up loving the book. The commercial for the show was a nope to me. It looks nothing at all like the book. I liked the way the authors of the book acknowledged history and that they wanted to imagine a better life for these people who died tragically. It's funny and thoughtful.
The character of Fitz makes me think that they've taken a bit of inspiration from the Farseer series by Robin Hobb, wherein the main character is named Fitz, and he is Witted, meaning he can speak with animals and form special bonds with them. Witted people are persecuted in Hobbs universe, and one of the common misunderstandings about them is that they can turn into animals. Also Fitz is described as having dark thick curly hair and darker skin, more or less exactly the dude on screen. They've just grabbed Fitz Farseer and dropped him in here.
Now you've said it, I can't unsee it. At least this Fitz actually catches a break.
I honestly liked the show a lot, but I thought I'd look at a critical video. I usually appreciate historical accuracy more, but I loved that this show chose fiction and ran with it. I discovered I can live with that. And I disagree that it was disrespectful to Jane. It seemed to me like a loving tribute to her.
10:14 I had to stop for a moment to scream! Mary had conflict with her brother, but she loved him too much to kill him, and had enough respect to not commit treason against the king or against God.
Those who watched it might say the dialogue regularly referencing “the gods” in insipid BBC historical fantasy show “My Lady Jane” despite being set in real medieval England with churches and crucifixes is examples of the show runners being “hacks” and “not caring”, but actually the show takes place in an alternate world where the revelations lost after the Apostolic age and not revealed again until Prophet Joseph Smith uncovered ancient golden tablets near Nauvoo Illinois in 1828 that every star has its own gods in a constant cycle of eternal progression of life toward divinity remained known to the Church. In this essay I will
Thank you for watching this so that I did not have to. I did watch the first 10 minutes of episode one and it made me so angry. Rather than (sorry in advance for the pun) royally screw up a good story with all this extra shape changing nonsense, just set this in a fictional world. A great fantasy saga could have resulted. (I should have watched the entire video before I commented. You made this very point!) So glad I support your work! Great luck for your upcoming work in London.
They took history and threw it out the window!
that's the entire point
@@amz.33So what? The real story is just as, if not more, interesting!
@@ElizabethMcCormick-s2n she gets killed in the real story after nine days. if you want to make a series abt a coffin ur welcome to
@@ElizabethMcCormick-s2n I absolutely want to see one day a good series made about Jane and her sisters' lives, but that would be a drama/tragedy. But this is a comedy and I absolutely liked it. And even within that, I could see love for the real Jane. It seemed to me like it was a tribute to her. I usually want more historical accuracy in shows, but this show made me realize, I'm ok with fiction as long as that show makes no pretense to depict history. And this didn't feel like that: they made it clear from the start, this is fiction.
@@octavianpopescu4776Their parents beat them constantly!
I read the book a number of years ago and thought it was hilarious. But the Amazon series completely undoes all the funny bits in the book
I watched like 4 minutes watching this show and noped right out!
What frustrates me about this series is the lack of love for these historical figures or bothering to go research other people with tropes Hollywood loves to market: You want an actual "warrior girl" or "girl power" historical story, look up Joan of Arc, Mary Ludwig Hays, Deborah Sampson, Hua Mulan, "Buffalo Calf Road Woman", The Trung Sisters, etc. Also, if you want historical gay characters (which Edward 6th wasn't) to make a movie/series about, go look up people like Richard Puller von Hohenburg, Harvey Milk, Oscar Wilde, Karl Heinrich Ulrichs, Maureen Colquhon, etc.
Why can't we get movies about these people instead of randomly turning these historical characters into tropes that they were documented not to be?!
I saw this as fiction and as a comedy. In the beginning the narrator basically said “fuck history I’ll write my own story.” I’m usually a stickler for facts. This show started out fiction. Not a historical tv series claiming it’s facts. That’s why enjoyed it.
Exactly! While I prefer historical fiction with more emphasis on history, the fact that this show embraced openly the fiction and ran with it made me like it a lot. You know from the first moment what you were going to see, it was honest about what it was. And through it all, I also saw love for the real story, details like Jane's real life signature being on the document with which she ended division laws (at the bottom of the paper, that's her real signature) or her speech at her trial (that was a moment where it felt like a defence of the real life Jane against the charges brought against her). I could see love in this show, heart, soul and it felt like a tribute to her. And that's more than enough for me.
@8:30 mark, just wanted to add...Jeyne couldve also told the king BECAUSE he signed off on it...and literally told her that...after she saw him to plead for him to NOT make her do it lol. Like its PAINFULLY clear she was forced into that marriage lol, and even the king, who signed off on it, didnt know.
I miss Reign! At least That series had good writing/acting!
The best Tudor-renaissance fanfiction!
One more thing and im done, i swear lol. I shouldve been born a Stanley as i can play both sides. I agree with the issues being presented here, so far. But online, im defending this show as most of the hate is about Edward being black. I appreciate this kind of take instead, as its pretty clear the ones online complaining are trying to hide their hate, and havent even watched the show. Because if a black king bothers you more than her being married to a horse, that she has fun time with, granted as a man, then its clear its not about the content of the show itself, but some deep rooted racism. Sorry but thats a fact.
Edit, those are the SAME people arguing people who see this will think its legit history...yea.. your ignorance is showing big time if you think people will believe this show is fact lol.
Why not just make it a random fantasy show? I'm sure it would've had the same success, if not more.
But i will say, i cringed a lot watching this, havent finished yet, but as long as i just remind myself its a fantasy spoof, i can get past it all. There were a lot of funny moments i could appreciate, and didnt see it much different than other spoofs making fun of royalty. It reminds me a lot of Ella Enchanted, which i really enjoyed, so pretend its just like that and it helps to watch lol.
Thank you, someone who agrees with me about how ridiculous shows like this are!
Great video!
40th
Brilliant video as always. Best of luck in London!
Wow - talk about completely missing the point. Dont watch once upon a time in Hollywood or inglorious basterds either - it will clear do your head in.