We have the same tyrannical regime here in Norway… Instead of chasing down true criminals, the cops are out chasing modified exhausts and lowered cars…
Hello! Aussie RUclipsr chiming in 😂 So I have been fortunate enough to be able to avoid police attention on all my cars in the past, but I am also under the mindset that if you modify your car tastefully, keep it clean and be a nice human to Police if they pull you over, you're usually pretty good. However, the Night Scene car meets are a straight up avoid nowadays, any meet big or small after 5pm is a guarantee defect station. Which unfortunately kills a lot of the passion for people early on. Defcet Stations are a big thing, but they can also pull you asside during random breath testing, or just in general if they see you driving around. What also makes matters worse, there are also a few of my RUclips friends, mainly in Melbourme, who regularly have police come door knocking to defect cars or give you a summons because of dangerous driving on RUclips Videos. They watch us very closely, but I can also understand that as us becoming larger "influencers" doing the right thing should be promoted. Anything on Social media here is HIGHLY watched by the government. In saying that. I have delt with horrible Police Officers, and yes they will certainly turn a blind eye to proper wrecks on the road, where a tastefully modified car get pulled over and gets defected for "having bigger brakes without it being engineered". Another huge issue is usually HWP dont know what they're looking for, and have been known to Defect OEM options on older cars, privacy glass and Standard Supercar Exhaust. We also have terrible roads here, where pot holes can go months without being fixed, no many driveways or speed bumps actually allow for the minimum 100mm height limit, and roadworks sites that you physically have to avoid to hopefully not damage your car. But as always, right time right place, If I'm ripping through the mountains in my evo with no one around and happen to be spotted by a cop, they usually dont mind much and say "slow down, if I see you again doing the same thing I'll have to act", and thats usually how it goes.
It's definitely become a time and place thing. And does also depend a bit more about what you drive. 10 years ago if a cop saw a modified Skyline or a modded Commodore they would almost always go after the Skyline. These days it's more or less how your behaving when they see you. Thankfully my main modified car somewhat flies under the radar as long as it's moving. I've just got to take my chances at an RBT. Also thankfully most of the night meets in SEQ seem to be ok as long as people aren't being muppets. When it comes to modified cars Victoria seems to be the hardest on things followed by NSW.
There is no "tasteful modification, right place right time and good attitude" that will prevent police harrasment of your modified car. This draconian nanny state views car enthusiasts akin to if not worse than murderers and the the majority of the public agree, this is largely thanks to boomers, the government runs fear campaigns about "speeding" and have the strictest laws and lowest speed limits on earth, enthusiasts are a societally approved and encouraged source of repeated state revenue and it will never change
@ZacBaldy don't know if you remember the phase 5 give away by street machine years ago. An 85 or 86 XF Falcon with a v8 Windsor in it. The car never originally came out with a v8. Yet the winner apparently was a South Australian, and he couldn't register the car here because it didn't come with engineering paperwork, and no south Aussie engineer would sign off on the finished car as he didn't do the regular checks during the build.
Heh back when I was into it, if you weren't a dickhead and you weren't hanging out with dickheads then they had better things to do. Unfortunately it's usually the few who spoil it for the many.
Still better than being descendants of a bunch of religious wingnuts who thought the Church of England allowed too much fun. Sigh. But driving in the populated parts of Oz sounds like a complete drag anyway considering their speed enforcement is also completely draconian.
Not all of Australia champ do your research South Australia was an experimental British colony and the only Australian colony which did not take convicts.
One of Australia's major car websites recently reported of cars being 'defected' because, get this.. the Shift Pattern embossed into the top of the gear lever knob was obscured, worn out, no longer stock, or had been removed. The story originated from an incident in Western Australia, but when "Car Expert" investigated if other States also followed suit with similar legal interpretations of their laws, the good old Victorian Police reportedly said that yes a shift knob gear-pattern (or lack thereof) could possibly be a prosecutable offence, but would neither confirm or deny if it in fact was! Speaking from personal experience, many years ago I was pulled over and received a fine from the Victoria Police for the crime of "Exhibiting Acceleration". Not 'excessive' acceleration, mind you - just exhibiting acceleration! No wheelspin or speeding involved whatsoever, merely accelerating from stationary too smartly for the liking of one single Policeman. Which raises many questions; including how can one proceed from stationary WITHOUT exhibiting some form of acceleration?? In other words, it's a convenient crime of perception, interpreted in random, and applied on a whim. Btw this was in the mid 1970s, my car was a stock 1969 Ford Fairmont V8, and iirc the fine was $63 or thereabouts.
Yes my son couldn't get RWC on his HZ cos it had a white cue ball on shifter from previous owner so he had to etch out the pattern for RWC. But for me back in the 80's i was pulled over every second week for RW checks cos of window tint and mag wheels on a stock standard car. Back then if you had tint and wheels you were a hoon. Best one was in melb cbd checks on batman ave (now fed square) where cop doing the checks didnt know how to change gears as he was sitting in drivers seat wanting to start engine to test brakes, told him to just press clutch since he couldnt find neutral.
Yep. NSW the shift pattern needs to be displayed. Bought a car and first pink slip ( annual inspection ) put a new knob on as it was an aftermarket blank.
I’ve had modified cars for forty years in Australia and have never copped a defect. My ‘71 LTD 2door hardtop is lowered four inches, has 10 inch wide rears, cranky big block, loud exhaust, steering wheel and seats changed and was my daily driver for seven years. The cops can be arseholes at times but if you’re not being a dickhead they are generally pretty good. Annual road worthy certificates are a pain but it’s nice to know that the car heading towards my family has at least been checked by a mechanic in the last year. Anyway breaking rules and dodging cops has always been part of the game.
100%. The only time I copped a defect (too low was self clearing) was on a random back street taking a mate home from the pub and we just happened on an RBT station. And the guys there thought my car was a bit low so out came the wheel. They also thought it was a bit fumey (decent size cam in an LS will do that on idle) But 1 defect in over 15 years owning said car wasn't bad. As you said it's part of the game. Had we taken a different street it'd have been no dramas. Also the state you live in does dictate the rules. So what happened to me might not happen in another state.
Just shy of 40 years driving modified classic cars here in WA and never had a Canary on any vehicle, despite hundreds of police stops over the decades. I can see that the eastern states are a hell of a lot more focused on defecting vehicles than they are over here!
Yep 18 year's of driving. Always had highly modified car's and have never had an issue. If your not out being an idiot they leave you alone. Pretty simple lol
Its absolutely bullshit the way we get treated. Its all just revenue raising - our cops here are more of a business for profit, qnd are never there when you call them for anyrhing.
@horseshoe182 100% - it's a shame the car enthusiast party didn't get further. Also, A Current Affair and those garbage TV shows have a lot to answer for.
@@communalnoodle1356 yeah, the whole thing is a shit show. young guys /gals , enthusiasts' need places to flog their machines, as well. shame about the car party.
@@communalnoodle1356ugh tell me about it, a current affair tries to convince people to think a dedicated car collector and enthusiast is lumped into the same category as a drug fucked kid who steals a car and kills an entire family
Why u think they privatised the police? So all the revenue they raise goes in their pockets instead of back into the system, yet our taxes still fund their operations. Mafia aint got anything on gov
Australian politicians are only good at "fixing' the sale of our mineral rights to foreign multinationals. The lack of revenue our mineral booms create leaves them hassling the small guy for the money to pay their wages.
Old mate is exaggerating a fair bit. Yes, modified cars get pulled over & defected all the time, but these are usually modified cars at the extreme end of the spectrum. Modifications are allowed within legal guidelines & most people who modify their cars adhere to those & never have a problem. MCM, who are in my State, modify cars on RUclips all the time & don't have issues because they do it within the guidelines. Get in to motorcycles if you want to modify a vehicle without restrictions or concerns over being defected. There isn't a motorcycle in Australia that hasn't been modified, unless it's new & sitting on a showroom floor. All of my bikes are modified. I've already modified the brand new bike I bought 2 months ago with 17 modifications.
They DO have issues, they don't tell you about it. Mechanical stig's cresta got done for example. If anything, the guy talking is UNDERSTATING the issue.
@@Coffee_Boss Attitude test? You are aware that random breath tests and random interceptions are UNLAWFUL in Australia yeah? and yes, that has gone through the court system. If a cop needs you to pass an "Attitude test" he shouldn't be doing that job.
As a retired ( semi) mechanic in new zealand , we have rules, obey them! If the minimum clearance is 100mm don't drop your car to 80, if the rules say cover your tyres, don't hang them 50mm outside the guards , if you have 9" rims don't put on tyres meant for 6" rims, the amount of crap mods that are on cars that are mainly performed by internet trained back yard goons horrify me as a 10.000hour apprentice trained mechanic (that's 5 years by the way) why spend $30 on a paint job and $500 on illegal mods that g
Talking out of his arse. Cops often don't care if you mod your car unless you do something else that is illegal. Poor video from a usually decent channel.
@@1greenMitsi I've owned over 15 modified vehicles over the years. I am not saying that modified cars don't get picked on, but he is way over exaggerating many of the "facts" EG, if you get a defect for Loud Exhaust - then that's all you need to fix and have it presented. You can leave your Mags and other bits on ...
I am an Aussie and given all the crime problems this country has (violent crime, theft, drugs etc) I don't think going after car mods is really the best use of police resources. If its a genuine issue (e.g. it makes the vehicle genuinely unsafe, it creates a hazard for other road users or it causes problems like excessive noise pollution) then sure, get it off the road but otherwise if its not harming anyone, let it be.
There are AFP station Sergeants in Canberra that run the minimum number of RBT's they can get away with because they are such a resource intensive undertaking. Officers need to be diverted from other duties for several hours for an RBT stop that is only really viable for 10 minutes.
Some statistics. In 2023, there were 409 homicides in Australia In the same year, there were 1266 road fatalities. Road deaths are the leading cause of death for young men aged 15-24 in Australia. Still think it's not a problem? Not worth the police resources? That nobody's being harmed?
something that he didn't mention is you can go through (I think its the state might be some other body) to get modifications certified by an engineer, but it is stupidly expensive so no one does it
Man this guy is exaggerating. I’ve been daily driving a modified car (bigger turbo, loud exhaust, lowered suspension) for ten years and have been pulled over 3-4 times. Never had the car gone over with a finetooth comb or defected. Having said that… I’m not going to car meets, driving like a dickhead or getting around with completely bald tyres or a car that is so obviously illegally modified (slammed suspension etc). Everybody has different experiences, this guy is talking the absolute worst case scenarios. Main key with police is (a) don’t make yourself a target and (b) when you do encounter them, treat them like kings. It’s not fun but they feel respected and like they’re in authority and will often go easy.
Pretty much exactly my thoughts, I've only ever had one bad experience with a cop and it was probably my own silly fault for doing a half a burnout in a car park full of other people on a Saturday night. And although he was an aggressive twat, he still didn't book me. Neither did the cops who followed me all the way home from that car park on a different night and pulled me over in my street for a 'random breath test'. Nothing came of that either, I didn't speed or do anything wrong and they ignored my super loud choppy v8 because I didn't give them any grief.
back in 2010 I got my 66 HR defected for non standard bucket seats, I new right off that the cop was going to ping me for something when he started trying to tell me the factory rear seatbelts weren't factory and that he had bad eyes when he asked if my X2 twin carbs was a triple SU setup.... Full defect not to be driven after 72hrs....been thryu numerous breath testing stations and never a problem. After he stuck the sticker on I headed home (fuming) just up the road heading the other way was a car club cruise.......I was just in the wrong place with the wrong Copper...
A little respect goes a long way. I've avoided fines and defects simply by agreeing with everything they say and dropping the odd sir... Words are cheap! Fines and defects are expensive. I've literally been busted speeding in my car or using the push bike lane with my motorbike and left the scene with a warning ⚠️ it's too easy if you're smart
@@a34rwlyup the UK luckily is relatively relaxed on modification, yeah they do crack down if a car is not taxed or uninsured, or if something doesn’t look right the MOT can be revoked, but doesn’t happen that often. There was also a guy who made a toy power wheels ride on car road legal and registered it.
Maybe you should check the accident statistics to check on why they are doing it. Here in New Zealand they are just as tough but if we have done the modification using proper parts we can get it certified at a testing station & it is fine to drive on the road. All cars here have to do a "warrant of fitness" every year or 6 months if it is older than year 2000, the WOF inspector goes over all the safety aspects of our cars. If there is a fault you need to have it fixed within a month & have it retested. It is a hassel but the cars on the road are at least safe to drive.
I've been driving modified cars in Aus for 18 years and never copped a defect notice. Got out of plenty of defect notices by being polite and respectful to the police officers who pulled me over. A lot of mung beans can't understand this logic and get every car they ever owned sticker'd due to their shite attitude.
Same with me. Heavily modified, but I think the real kicker is - people like us do sensible modification, and not the dickwad additions that look and sound utterly retarded and get unwanted attention.
Never been defected but fcuk me gets harder every year to pass rego even on modified cars that look stock even though mods were not part of roadworthy or safety item tbh
Overly dramatic and inaccurate. I live in the same state as him and you can modify your vehicle. Some mods require an approved engineer to sign off, but as long as you modify your car properly, then it's doable. Want to fit some brembos to your corolla.. absolutely, just get an engineer to inspect it and make sure you've done it right. He will OK it and you're fine. It''s a simple process. Want to slam your car, fit tyres too small and run highly cambered suspension.... No, that is not allowed... for good reason. QLD has no yearly roadworthy checks either. No emission tests. The muppets who do stupid and dangerous mods deserve what they get. They are looking for attention and they get it from the cops.
While he has hammed it up for the story a little, but nothing he said was untrue. The cops used to set up at the popular meet places on the Gold Coast all the time. One only has one road in and out, so they set up a road block and went through every car there. Basically took all night as my mate didn't get out of there until around 5am... If you don't believe it, you just haven't come across that special officer yet.
I'm in Canberra. If your car isn't extreme you're golden. I have a 50mm drop on my Lancer. Factory Clearance is just over 150mm. Wheels and Tyres are within factory spec (2%) and don't poke out past the guards, camber is within spec and regularly checked to reduce wear...
I live in the ACT (The capitol of Australia). I've never had a defect, I've also never had my car inspected as part of an RBT. Yes, my car is modified within reason though, Lowered suspension, after market rims, strut brace and after market audio. It is all within limits though. It's not too low (meets the 100mm minimum), wheels and tires fit within the guards at correct offset, the wiring for the audio is all checked and approved...
This man is speaking some truth I've had mates defected for factory OEM options on their Australian domestic market cars like gauges and fender mirrors
That usualy happens when they cops are butthurt that they know they cant get you on what they want to.... its a scape goat fine these days and nothing more.
@@Leistung.Autohaus a state is defined as both "a politically unified people occupying a definite territory; nation" AND "the territory, or one of the territories, of a government". In this case, the commenter means it in the first meaning, i.e. a sovereign state, not a state within a nation or country.
I have had 38 years worth of random breath tests... I have never been asked to show my license or had my car fine-tooth-combed. It is a four second processes. All over australia. Including in some modified vehicles. You have a whole different flavour of luck.
I once had the cops try for a defect check when I pulled over to answer a phonecall. Lights checking my key position on the dash, his buddy walking around and checking my tyres... "Mate, I'm pulled over and the car is off for a phonecall, what exactly are you looking for? Tread is fine, lights all work, not in operation." Nek minute - breathalyser, wheel stick comes out, have to operate my lights to prove it. This is all despite them finding brand new tyres, car was stock height, and I don't drink. They basically made a 2 min "what's up" turn into a 30 minute defect check, because they found nothing and were bored.
I have never had them not ask for my license in the 3 or 4 times I have been breath tested in the last few years. They also have quite an attitude, probably as most people dislike being randomly pulled over and have the appropriate disrespect for the situation themselves.
@@omanhaddadtbh These days they mostly use number plate recognition to get your details before they even talk to you. The last time I was asked for a licence there was a notice on the car due to the previous owner not paying fines (the registration can also be suspended for this reason). After explaining that I had just recently bought the car the sherif cleared the flag.
So, I’m in denial. I refuse to believe it true. Here in Detroit you can have a flame throwing turbo mustang go past the cops going 10 over the speed limit and they won’t even blink while eating their donuts.
In North Carolina people cruise the main strip in some towns with modified cars that are clearly not even street legal. The louder the exhaust the better. It's like a competition. As long as your not being a hooligan or racing the cops could care less. That's how it should be. Infact I rarely see people pulled over for speeding. When I see someone pulled over it's usually 3-5 cop cars and they all have their guns drawn. Kinda makes me laugh actually. Knowing they are taking the actual criminals off the streets.
In my state in Aus, that would get your car a major defect in an instant plus you'd get a speeding ticket for $385 and 3 Demerit points. Mind you if you're going 16mph over its an automatic loss of licence
I cut my exhaust of my '85 pontiac with a 305 v8. I'm in st louis county. Even drove it to Kansas city and back. Didn't nobody care. In California they would of gave me a very expensive ticket and maybe even towed my car.
Aussie here mate, its 100000% true Also my State Queensland also has what they call "Hoon Offences" So they can call basically anything they want "Hooning" and it doubles, triples or even more the Demerits and Fines It literally comes down to the Cop who does ya in, and they know NOTHING about Cars. They arent trained in Mechanics let alone Modifications, they see something that they think looks off and thats it, you're DONE Having said that I have a Highly Modified Car and Ive been pulled over twice in 10 years, have a clean Driving record and behave myself on the road, yet the fear is ALWAYS there. All it takes is the get pulled over ONCE by a Cop on a Power trip and/or in a Bad Mood and its over They drone on about how its for "Safety" yet call the after youve had your House broken into or youve been Assaulted and they dont give a single fuck, Drugs everywhere yet they hassle us
Here in western australia they arnt as tyrannical about modifying your vehicle as in the eastern states. But in saying that in my late teens early 20s i had VH commodore with ozzy 308. Nothing all that special but i did my roof carpentry apprenticeship during day and worked as cook at night, essentially 14 hr days, to pay for my 308 to be rebuilt with some mild modes, lumpy cam etc, my trimatic 3 speed rebuilt with a stage 2 shift kit, brand new exhaust fitted where i could swap out the muffler for straight through pipe for car events etc, and all new suspension all round with king spring lows and it ran on fat maxxis that wrapped 15inch pursuit rims, nothing crazy at all. On the friday night of the first week she was back on the rd! coming home from my dinnner shift i went through abooze bus and sure enough a sargent on a power trip to try and impress a rookie told me to pull up for a vehicle inspection. First thing he says is he asks who modified my exhaust? 😂 even with the muffler on he claimed it was to loud 🤔🤷♂️🤣. I told him no one modified, its a brand new performance exhaust system from an exhaust shop, i had the receipts for all new work done on the car sitting in the glove box. Then it was the usual pop the hood. When he opened it and saw the feshly rebuilt and sparkling clean 308 in sparkling clean engine bay all he had to say was " wow ". I piped up and said " you have no idea what you are looking at do ya mate? ' 😂. Yeh he didnt like that 😏🤷♂️😂. Funnly enough he didnt pick on how low my car was?🤔 lol but yeh proceeded to yellow sticker me for the apparently loud exhaust. I then got a $150 fine for abusing the shit out of him for smashing his fist on my boot when i started the car screaming " dont fking rev ur car! " lol being vacumm carby on the motor ( from memory a holly revenge? ) u tend to have give it a couple small pumps of accelerator to bring up fuel pressure 😂. Well actually first the sarge threaten to red sticker my car which made me fly of the rails even more telling him he had nothing to justify the yellow sticker let alone a red one! So he was like fine i will fine you for offence language and my response was " fk u and your power trip! " bam! $150 fine😂. The look on the rookies face when i flew of the rails was priceless. I did mention to the rookie that if he wants respect from car enthusiasts that aint the way to get it. Following monday i was at the pits where car cleard to be legal and inspector stating the sargent was a wanker for even putting it on 😂. My second home ended up being the pits with that car lol even though it wasnt anything all that special and not all that loud? Fk it was cop magnet!😂 I did one time get caught doing donuts on a street that was at the back of industrial yard that was never used. The rd was black with rubber as it was a popular spot lol. On that occasion i got a yellow sticker for bald tyres even though i was putting rd legal tyres back on 😏🤣 and that was it. Good old days! Where there was no such thing as a hoon law lol Now i own a tiger mica red with gold flake 1977 HX GTS monaro with a 500hp 383 chev, sequential shift 3 speed turbo 400 built to handle 800hp, one piece tail shaft, 9inch with 3:47 ratio and detroit locker. I forget what suspension 🤔 but the springs light blue? Lol she is fairly low and sticks to the rd bloody well considering her size and weight. She has original 14inch GTS rims and she runs big 4 into 1 headers into twin 2 and half inch exhaust system with catalyic converters and no mufflers! 😏 this old girl is loud even at idle!😂 yet not once since the day ive owned her ( 15 years ) have i ever been pulled over by the police, not a single yellow sticker 🤔🤷♂️🤣. Actually Only time ive interacted with police while being in this car was 2 police officers coming over while i was idling at the servo asking if they could have a look 😏🤣👍. 8:54
It's no problem modifying your car here in Australia, but you have to do it the right way. There's rules on literally every aspect of modification and it's clearly stated in freely available documentation. Most of what you see in the video above is people modding their cars with no regard at all to what's legal, or what needs to be done to make it legal, then complaining the cops pick on them.
Yeah right they jump through hoops! I tried to put a factory suspension into my falcon that was optional on another variant same model. Not allowing it with out a engineers report
Ive had 3 defects on my 180SX Type X wing obstructing view...its a factory OEM wing. Ive fought each defect in court and won. The issue is that the laws and the people that are meant to enforce them make no sense.
False, you're illegal in victoria Australia if you have more than two mods no matter what they are. Unless of course if you suck the govs dick and pay many thousands for engineering reports for basic mods, can you spell extortion!?
@@Wutaskierdoes it not piss you off that there’s a country where you can get your car revoked from being drivable for being lowered an inch or an aftermarket shift knob?
@@shangsty Mate, I live in the same state as the guy in the video. He is telling inaccuracies from start to finish. Lots of modified cars here and a strong car culture. The video title should be "Cops single out dick heads for special attention"
@@shangsty No way you can get defected for a shift knob. It's a fixture. It'd be like getting defected for having a pair of fuzzy dice hanging from your visor.
Last time I checked I didnt have to revert my car back to stock or wasnt allowed to register it ever again after a defect notice. So it is even worse than in Germany which is insane
@@Crosstieger no, that happens in Germany too. Sometimes they just take away your car even and will sell it off in auctions. You will have to revert back to stock. It's especially bad in Hamburg or Berlin, where greens govern.
@@cartrips9263 I'm from the southwest, never heard of this happening. Might be an edge case? Afaik the legal system ends with a defective notice and revocing of the registration. The only cars I heard of being auctioned where seized before.
@Crosstieger nope happens all the time. Auctioning off only on bad cases, mostly when you also sped with the car. Southwest is not that bad, as I said, the worst are Hamburg and Berlin and some other big cities and surroundings.
the worst part is the cops will look past genuinely unroadworthy pedestrian vehicles (i.e. Camry's with non functional lights & bald tyres) & go after a modified car
Car maker's design a car with specifications to meet Australian design rules, there's no vantage of lowering your car, yes it changes the centre of gravity. Bigger disc brakes is just for show. Yes it will give you more braking power but that's been factered in the design. A lot of designs are for the average person. To cater for the average driver's abilities. These laws are to protect people from themselves & innocent by standers. A lot of people think that they are very good driver's & very well might be. But you must be very aware of you soundings , thing's can change in a blink of an eye, Iam blind in my right eye & must extra careful when driving & never had a accident because I'm blind in my right eye.
As a licensed examiner in QLD. The amount of cars that "Should have failed" a Road Worthy, were in pretty good condition. I hate this war on modified cars. Most of them are more maintained than some of the shit tins I have legimately seen.
As an ex cop you didn't really explain it very well Insurance and registration cancelled is a bit of a stretch, lol but this is state by state discretion And it's not a defect it's a "canary " (in Melbourne anyway) Work shops turning a blind eye is extremely rare as photographs etc are needed to be submitted I guess it's easy to hate on the rules but once you have had the unfortunate job of telling a family a loved one has died in an accident and it could have been prevented then you would understand why rules are in place Cool story tho lol where did they find this guy 😅😅
Did you just equate modified cars to people dying...now that's a stretch! Wonder how many deaths on Australian roads this year are due to a car being modified and not something to do with a lack of driver education, poor roads or poor maintenance on their OEM vehicles... Speaking as a mechanic who saw more then his fair share of un-roadworthy cars that got by without any scrutiny.
My Toyota Soarer got defeated for tems coil overs and wheels that were one size to small from stock, So I went and got engineering report and stuck it back to the m. Since the soarer was stock with airbag suspension even if I did put it back to stock it's not allowed in Australia anyway
This is really clickbait. So over dramatic. The guy comes across as a complete plonker to be honest. He doesn't even know the difference between a pink and a blue slip (which is nothing to do with modifications), yeah listen to him. Fact is you can modify cars very easily in Australia. I have multiple modified cars. Yes, there are regulations that you're meant to adhere to when modifying a car. Go outside that and you're meant to get the car engineered (certified). However, people drive some completely wild stuff on the street here with no problem. Even if it's not engineered and goes outside of the guidelines. For some, way outside the guidelines... Now, you run the gauntlet on these out there cars that you can get defected. Ive been driving heavily modified cars in the eastern states for 35 years and no issues. Even when caught out doing the wrong thing on the street, I've always been let off. This guy comes across as someone who would definitely fail the attitude test and then have a cry afterwards about how hard done by he is. Ironically, a lot of the strict rules around the repair of damaged vehicles actually came about because of the criminal element involved in rebirthing cars. It was even as bad as getting your well being threatened for bidding on the wrong damaged / stollen car at auction because it was earmarked by criminal gangs. NSW came down very hard on this and it's for the better. Some other states, not hard enough. None of this affects the enjoyment of my modified cars. But hey, seems plenty of people commenting in here from elsewhere around the globe would tell me I should be leaving the country...
Yeah it's a bit over the top. Now sure we do have some dickhead cops who will defect you on the littlest of things but it's generally not as bad as this man makes it out to be.
as an aussie, this is 100% accurate 😂 I had 4 defects on 1 car in 1 year due to cops not liking something on a modified car, altho West Aus we don't have on the spot suspensions unless its hooning
As someone who loves all cars, modified or standard, I am ok with unsafe or unroadworthy being taken off the road. Most modifications are great but some are just horrific.
Yeah they even defect stuff for safety or improves safety such as big brake kits, better suspension, better seat, roll cage etc. all defectable without engineer plate. Which is quite expensive to do so. They make it hard at every turn to have a modded car. It almost killed the car scene completely. Hoon laws were introduced, heavy police presence on any modded cars and it almost died. It also makes parts and labour super expensive for modding cars because they need to pass all these regulations before they can be sold etc. It sucks and one reason I haven't touched a car in a while. Can't be asses dealing with the cops, the cost and the BS around modding. I love it and will for sure go back again soon but for the time being I am sick of being pulled over for driving normally and having a perfectly working and maintained car, much better then 90% of the cars on the road safety wise. Yet it is deemed defective. Even with engineer plates they will still defect you and make it a huge time waste getting it inspected to just get taken off as the car is completely legal per regulations. It's so annoying.
You can put bigger brakes etc on your car but they need to be engineered so they are actually safe seeing as you are changing the design aspects of the car and how it performs. Changing seats isn’t always making it safer as those seats need to pass certain safety tests first and then be okayed to be put in your car hence the engineer but in many cases now when people change seats or steering wheels they are removing airbags and this is the kind of thing that you say make the car safer but they dont
@knight2425 my point was that at every turn of modding a car there is a fee, or a restriction etc. I did mention you need it engineered but let's say you build a car that completely changed the drive line, diff, turbo, brakes, seats, exhaust, steering wheel, front mount, etc that can get very expensive. And unlike most countries where you can swap almost anything into the car....there are restrictions at least in Qld where I am from no displacement larger then what originally came in the car. They won't engineer it otherwise. I also mentioned the restrictions on mods on terms of passing certain safety guidelines etc which also increase the price of the products because they factor it in. It's all barriers so people won't mod their cars more so then safety in my opinion. I've been modding cars since I was 17 and it's changed to a very restricted thing I've the 20 or so years I've been doing it. And regardless of engineering I've been defected just to piss me off and take up my time. They know full well my cars are all legal because I make a point of pointing out the engineering plate yet I still received defects that got taken off as soon as it is inspected. They just wasted my time basically. It's all tricks and traps to discourage the car scene which pisses me off.
@ and my point was that most of the laws are to make sure the car is still safe not only to the occupation others that might be involved in an accident with it. Everything costs money and if you take up people time to get your car engineered then they want to be payed obviously and they won’t do it for nothing considering they are putting their name to it. I’ve modified cars for over 30 years and never been defected even though I’ve had loud and low cars, I put that down to my attitude with cops (been pulled over enough times) and I don’t drive like an idiot on the road or hangout with other stupidly modified cars, I don’t think me not being defected is just luck.
@knight2425 oh yeah I totally get what you are saying. I haven't been defected in a long time but when I owned a R34 I got pulled over weekly for inspections. This was when the hoons were mental and caused the scene to get targeted. So I understood it doesn't mean that some cops just wanted to pin ya for something. I knew if I ever got a defect that it would get taken off as soon as it was inspected. I've never had a major defect. Minor ones like blow off valve etc even though it was plumbed back stuff like that. There is safety then there is over regulation is all I am saying. I feel for sure in Qld that it is over policed and over regulated. I'm all for safety but it went a bit overboard here
Another fun thing about being a car guy/girl in Australia is the EPA.. Exhaust noise limits are excessive in their restrictions and confusing at times and all you need to do is drive past someone and have them lodge a query with the EPA with your registration and you'll get a notice in the mail to get your vehicle exhaust noise tested by a certain date or your registration will be suspended. Then there is limited places that are approved by the EPA to test the noise levels, you can't monitor the test and the conditions for your specific vehicle are hard to find at best and you have no way of confirming that the test has been done properly. They even include "chirps" when the accelerator pedal is released at the test level (slow accel to test level - preset RPM level - then sudden release of accel) You'll be told that "any vehicle with an aftermarket exhaust will fail" even though there is no OEM stockpile hidden away and at some point everyone will get aftermarket parts installed on cars. You also have to pay for the test regardless of if you pass or fail, pass and you pay the costs of the test, fail and you pay the costs of the test, make the required changes and then pay for another test. You can also be fined by the EPA on top of this if they deem it so, especially if you remove the MAF sensor, delete cats or bypass mufflers. I've had a warning on a car I bought second hand but didn't modify, had to buy a whole new exhaust and test it, on another car I was reported to the EPA, it passed the testing first time without changes to the setup at all, still had to pay the "covert fine" for the test.
In Germany you can modify your car with parts that are TUV certified. Which is most decent aftermarket parts. I’ve seen caged race cars with plates in Germany
I had a fake (sticker) licence plate and darker than legal window tint on an Evo X that was slightly lowered on slightly wider wheels than stock. I had zero problems... even when two cops noticed my sticker plate, I still didn't get busted. *Attitude is everything.* Act &/or drive like a dropkick, you'll get done! The real problem is that 'enthusiasts' are taking the pee these days, especially with loud exhausts. Ripping through residential streets at midnight at WOT is stupid. Those idiots are fudging up the scene for everyone. Australia is somewhat relaxed compared to Switzerland! 'Cars with Luke' has touched on their tough laws many times.
I want to clear about the US. Each state and Commonwealth are different. Pennsylvania has some of the most restrictive road requirements where Ohio has some of the most lax laws. In Pennsylvania yearly inspections are required to legally drive on the road. Cars can be lowered to any height. They can be lifted to any height provided the bumpers are low enough for a lower vehicle to hit. Tires cannot be out beyond the fenders but fender extenders can be added to ensure mud and rocks cannot be slung and hit other drivers. Doors can be removed only if the mirrors are attached securely to the vehicle that allows drivers to see. Jeeps generally are the only ones people drive without doors and have mirror mounting available on the A pillar. All lights must work. The frames or unibodies must be solid, and no rust protruding that are an injury hazard are allowed. All brakes must work, brake shoes and pads must be of certain thickness. Tires also cannot be bald. Vehicles with emissions equipment made after 1974 are required to have all their original emissions equipment intact and visible. They don't necessarily have to work. 17 counties require emissions tests to ensure vehicles are not above certain pollution levels. Antique vehicles (those over 25 years old) and registered antique are exempt from the yearly inspection, but are not allowed to haul or be used daily. Ohio has no inspections, certain counties like Cuyahoga require emissions tests. They do have road side safety checks to make sure all lights and brakes work, but these are random. In Ohio fenderless cars are allowed so long as lights work.
Australia is an absolutely shit place for car enthusiasts I don't understand why people, especially the ones that have money don't just buy a car and a house in Europe and go there to drive like 3 or 4 times a year. And with the taxes there you could buy a car and house in Europe for the same price as just a car in Australia
Yeah plenty of people I know are leaving or planning to leave, Makes no sense to stay in almost every way, It's a great country but the government is insane, We're taxed to hell for everything and almost everything costs more on average especially real estate and vehicles.
@@ryandevillers214 tough luck man either go to Europe and drive a straight pipe SVJ or drive a Stock Toyota Camry and if you 10kmh over you still might end up in jail
Its isn't "what the police don't like".. Its what places your vehicle in breach of the ADR's or Australian Design Rules. The rules that ensure cars remain safe for the road. It is the task of police to help enforce compliance with the ADR's You'll be surprised what can place you in breach of the ADR's. Even off the shelf lowering kits can make you illegal. What makes adherence to the ADR's an issue, is each state has its own interpetation of them. So for example, whats legal in New South Wales, might be illegal in all other states. (Of course, its fine to drive in those states with new south wales rego. if you move there, your car will not pass a road worthy/safety check..).. At least I now understand how people in the USA can get away with driving absoute rust buckets and other dangerous vehicles on the road..
The problem is both major party's are left wing and authoritarian, The traditional left Labor party is far left and com and the Liberal/Nationals are centre left, Not to metion the Greens and their com origins, There are only a few independents that are normal anymore, I don't see a future here that doesn't end up like China/UK.
@@valiantthor_ Labor is so far removed from communism lmao. The dogwhistle is always that the ALP are commies but they really aren't. The main point is: neither party is for the people. They only care about propping up moguls like Murdoch and giving their rich buddies kickbacks while we starve and can't even afford a house.
In Australia you ARE in fact allowed to modify your car - but there is a number of red lines you can't cross. Under car clearance minimums, noise limits, emissions.. most of it is sensible and common sense. So you comply with all that, and you can modify the car not a problem. The rules are known in each state, it's not an arbitrary decision for the police.
Back in the late 80's I witnessed a young cop defect an Australian chrysler for having no front springs. Even with our objections, the cop went ahead with the defect. The following Monday, we went out to the inspection center (Regency park for the South Aussies), and filled the carpark there with our cars (30 mates in all), for support. The face on the inspector said it all when he read the defect. Chrysler boys will understand.
@nibba5692 is actually not strictly correct. Some modifications require engineers reports, which puts liability back on the engineer. IE forward facing bonnet air scoop. Yet Subaru wrx has just that. Because Subaru accepts liability if a pedestrian is injured by it, assuming the driver was not reckless. Some modifications are acceptable if the car was optioned with that modification. IE engine swaps. My car is a 6 cylinder, yet it was optioned with a 5L v8. All I need to do is an inspection to confirm engine number (to show not stolen), and to ensure it is fitted correctly. Manual to auto is common. Mind you the cost negates the conversion sometimes. In my case it's cheaper to sell my car and buy a v8 if I wanted one. Vehicle re-engineering is straight forward if done sensibly.
I am an Aussie and this is just a load of crap most of the cars shown in the vid are over 30 years old which means they qualify for club rego which is super lenient with mods and other things, a couple of days ago I saw a vintage super cool XA Ford GT lowered and with a tunnel ram poking out of the hood going down the road no problem but obeying the road rules, this was on Pittwater road Manly Vale in Sydney but this is also the road where two young people were killed in a modified Toyota Yaris GR when they lost control of it at high speed a month back. We don't like hoons but register your modified car correctly and there are never any problems with it I know I own a mod 64 Chev, 82 BMW motorsport, 1928 Indian 101 and a 95 Ducati SS, any mods basically have to be safe not stupid.
Whilst I modify my street cars to a point, it isn't overboard or dangerous, and I have never had a issue with the police, I've been driving modified street cars since I got my licence in 1980 Most of the cars that get defected here are either modified poorly, or they are built, look, and sound like racecars If you want a race car build it for the track or strip and put it on a trailer If you want a modified street car, follow the bouncing ball What do people expect when they build these things for the street Also, since the law has come down harder on modified cars, there is a lot less news about highly modified street cars crashing and killing people In the end, you can modify anything to a point, it'sall there in the states rules and regs for modifications, if you want more, engage a engineer and see what you can actually do legally and what is required for that I've had cars engineered legally, from a engine swap, to adding a turbo, but, I was required to comply with engineering and emissions requirements People complain about the cost of engineering, which in the scheme of a build, is actually a minimal out lay, people spend more on wheels and sound systems than what it costs to legally engineer a street car The problem is people don't do these simple things, they roll the dice, then whinge when they get a defect notice Attitude also comes into play, how you actually drive on the street, and how you talk to people is a common issue, but if you drive like a muppet on the street, and mouth off like a whinging child, you deserve to be treated that way TL;DR: you reap what you sow
I had a mate get defected for standard brakes just because they were Brembos, After that he was like if I'm going to get done for standard might as well modify it anyway.
@@valiantthor_ There is no logic in them doing that either way, upgrading the brakes of a car in all situations just makes it more safe. Its all just crap.
As an aussie; correction required here. If you have a modified car that you didn't bother to get engineered and approved, then you'll have those problems. I had a turbo'd (not from factory), built motor, 500+rwhp falcon but it was completely legal. This is a crock of shit. If you're lazy you'll get defected
Brush up on your local states roadworthy legislation. I have been for my job, and you'll be surprised what's said is illegal, but it's actually legal are two massively different things. My dad's ute is probably 70mm off the ground from the exhaust, he bought it like that from a car dealer and he's been driving it around for 5 years with no issues
Australia sounds like HEAVEN 🇦🇺 I would love this in the US! Just imagine, no more Mustangs with no exhaust, no more backwards jacked trucks that the peabrain owner can’t see out of, no more ricers with machine gun sounding tailpipes and the icing on the cake maybe no more Harleys blasting theirs pipes in traffic and on once quiet backroads. Quiet unmodified and safe vehicles, the way it’s supposed to be.
I agree with the cars, but for motorcycles, "loud pipes save lives"! There have been numerous times, when there's been a motorcycle in my blind spot, that I would not be aware of, if I didn't hear it. I hear the sound, look for it and see it, then, the motorcycle is safe. If I was unaware, I could make a lane change, that could put it at risk.
I ride a not loud motorcycle, any rider who is so unaware of their surroundings that they cruise in a car’s blind spot should not be riding. Loud pipes are for obnoxious antisocial hooligans who are begging for attention.
Some cars just scream “pull me over” and are literally dangerous, like the dude pulled up and had a PlayStation gaming wheel as his steering wheel! Do sensible mods and you’re fine. I’ve got a 2011 VE series II Commodore Ute SV6 with a custom made stainless steel exhaust, headers, over top air intake and tuned on the dyno for 320 hp at the rear wheels and Bathurst style 18 inch rims (don’t do big rims) Never been pulled over once in 5 years of ownership and the car looks amazing in poison ivy metallic green. If you go on car runs you’re asking for trouble. But yeah here in Australia we have way too many rules!
not had an issue for years, but one extreme I've heard is a modified car being defected that was being transported on a flat bed, simply because it had number plate fitted, they went after it.
There is a definite "Convict/Jailer" mentality prevalent amongst many Police and public officials here in Australia that harks back to the very foundation of the country. Australia was established as a penal colony (essentially one big open-air jail) by the British Empire almost 240 years ago, and there were only two types of people that came here in the early days; prisoners from Britain & Ireland and their guards/administrators (the Royal Marines, British Government officials). Of course over time free settlers arrived and later on many migrants from all corners of the globe, however the original mentality from the early convict days that the great unwashed public are generally a bunch of criminal misfits prone to breaking the law and must thus be kept on a very tight leash by the Police and government authorities with a zero-tolerance approach prevailed. Australia is one of the most over-policed, over-governed and over-regulated countries in the world today.
Chris has missed the point here. If you wish to build a modded car, check with an automotive engineer first. We built a modded Toyota MA-70 Supra in 2015 but we spoke to an automotive engineer first about the mods. He emailed us a list of what we could & couldn't do. We built the modded Supra, transported it on a trailer to the engineer where he he inspects the car & puts on a build plate to say it's been modified. It was then registered & insurance was done through a specialist insurance company. The Supra is still on the road going to car shows & the owner has been pulled over by the police numerous times for their inspection. As long as you have the paperwork & the new build plate, you're fine. Most people who want to mod their cars really have no idea where to start. They don't bother with an automotive engineer in the beginning or even bother to check their states transport department for rules. They just build what they think is fine & then when they're out on the road & get pulled over by the cops, they go nasty. Some of the homemade mods I've seen would make people cringe. Rule of thumb, when building a modded street car, check with your state transport department as each state in Australia has different rules & talk to an automotive engineer that is credited to give you a modded build plate. If you're building a modded car for something like 12's for $2K event, then that vehicle can't be road registered & has be towed by a car trailer to the event.
I am in Australia and have always driven modified cars, I've only ever been defected once... and that was probably a combination of a cop with an attitude and me drawing attention to myself by heavily braking before a speed trap (back when radar detectors were legal in WA). They couldn't get me for the speeding so they got me with a defect. :/ Generally if you don't go around drawing huge amounts of attention to yourself, and pass the "attitude test" when you do have an interaction with the police (RBT, minor traffic offence etc) you don't have to worry too much as 9/10 a blind eye is turned. ;D
Here in the U.S., the #1 public complaint is the incredibly loud (and childlike, 'look at me'), modified exhausts on cars (motorcycles... and scooters, too). Many cars also have cut-out exhausts, where, with the flip of a switch, the mufflers are bypassed and the resulting NOISE can vibrate houses and is extremely obnoxious. Again, it is due to the very juvenile, 'LOOK AT ME. AREN'T I COOL!', attitude....which makes it worse for everyone else.
Australia is fighting the “individual rights” challenge as well. Same in UK, U.S. The right to be left alone against the tyranny and boot of the ever more powerful government. Oddly, the unparalleled nanny state (California) leaves motor vehicles alone. Car culture is a political third rail. California remains the only state where splitting lanes on a motorcycle is legal. Our Highway Patrol is excellent, truly concerned with our safety. No ticky tack tickets.
Driving a motorcycle between cars is dangerous though. No one expects it and if a car makes a sudden move the biker goes splat. There's a good reason why it's illegal everywhere else.
Read the comments, Australians defend this stuff and will make up excuses for it being "the right thing to do", hell airsoft isn't even legal hear and majority of Aussies think it's an amazing idea to not allow it.
This dude’s spiel is well and truly over the top. If you drive like a peanut, give any lip to the ladies and gentlemen in blue or blatantly and obviously have a vehicle that appears unsafe, that’s on you. If you modify a car tastefully and go through all the appropriate channels and drive to the rules (as you should anyway) they won’t give you a second thought. I’ve owned and driven quite a few modified cars in Australia for decades and aside from the odd speeding ticket my cars have never been scrutinised. I’m even building an Australian Cannonball car but it’s all within the regulations (save for some countermeasures, but they’ll never know they’re there). Has anyone from the Mighty Car Mods Cinematic Universe ever had their car taken off the road due to being unsafe?
I am a car enthusiast but I get irritated with lifted trucks, guys rolling coal, exhausts that have excessive pops and bangs... its really annoying and jarring for the general public. Lifted trucks are just unsafe for pedestrians.... I work on the pipeline and lifted trucks do have a purpose but they shouldn't be in cities. This is an issue that the car community and the aftermarket supply companies need to self regulate, if you not than gov't officials will. Go drive in india and tell me how you like driving on roads with no rules, its crazy and i wouldn't want to live that way.
Yea, F that. I understand safety, but this is insanity and simply a revenue generator. It sounds like you can be forced to throw away a perfectly good vehicle for subjective and arbitrary reasons. People have to replace those vehicles. I wonder if there is an auto dealer's association that pushes these laws and is what keeps them on the books via some kind of lobby effort.
They best way to modify cars in Australia is to get it plated ( compliance plated, where they check it for you to make sure it is allowed by the department of main roads) and you'll have no problems , but most people just do it and don't check the laws . Plus some of the items they put on their vehicles are already marked not fit for road use or may not be legal to place on your vehicle.
Sorry as an Aussie in the industry I can say 90% of those cars aren’t doing the right thing. They behave like peanuts and do dangerous stuff. And some mods so poorly done it’s lethal. He’s talking out of his butt because he just wants do do what he wants with no consequences
The reason we get nailed is because they can make money off fines or defects, there s no money in actual criminal's most of the time. It's just revenue raising
Here in south africa they're strict only if you don't have money unfortunately. Even as simple as lowering, changing wheels to a lower profile if doesn't look oem and lights get you fined severely, license disks get taken but then again that when they want the extra pay. So corrupt with laws
Everywhere except for a small town in nt called Alice Springs, go there for 5 mi. And you will see numerous lifted modified etc 4x4s aswell as stuff that is straight up not roadworthy, windows smashed, mismatched wheels, missing bumpers etc it's crazy
I've lived in europe all my life and then move to Australia 6 years ago. All I can say is Europe is 10000 times more strict than AU. ACT don't even have yearly inspections that you need to pass lol. And in NSW you can go to any back yard mechanic to get your yearly registration done easily. In europe they only have government places that do checks which are a lot more strict. In Australia they don't test CO2 emissions either. Defecting 4wds that are slightly higher than stock is absolutely ridiculous tho. Not wrong there.
In the USA there are 52 states with almost as many different rulings . Just think about this some usa states require no trailer brakes .Left upto the owner . In Australia people cut springs then lower car under 100mm . Illegal window tint very common . Wheel spacers . Many mods are only for track use only . Increasing power or capacity can be done by only a certain amount % . . Yes there are legal turbo conversions and illegal versions . Alternately u could fit a 50k-100k engine that barely fits a bonnet and expect a roadworthy when it protrudes that much it will kill a pedestrian . So if u your rules back to front u can adjust them legally . End story
Now the random breath testing spots they setup they will give you a breath test then drug test then if you pass that they will then ask to search your vehicle and they don’t need a reason other than they want to look through your vehicle and if they still find nothing then they check absolutely everything on your vehicle to see if they can find something wrong to give you a defect ticket and charge you a fine that is so big that it makes no sense for the amount the fine is. With them checking the height of your vehicle is illegal because they are checking on a surface they haven’t the knowledge or the required tools laser level to check the surface to be level and able to check the height correctly. They put millions of dollars into all the planing area’s to set the stations up and all the other costs are absolutely disgusting. They put a add on social media how they are adding a new 300 series land to be a undercover police vehicle and it has been kitted out with heaps of aftermarket parts and then the $50-$70k wiring and lighting kits so they end up with a $300k police vehicle and this is for 1 vehicle. They could setup Suzuki jimney’s with absolutely everything it needs to be a undercover vehicle and they would be able to have 10 of them for the price of 1 Toyota landcruiser The major issues citizens are talking about and if there wheels or suspension anything on the vehicle from hitting a pothole In Australia the council or roads department very really if every pay for the damages yet it’s a law that they have to but they have put a amount of damage cost in Queensland we had storms and 100’s of 1000’s of potholes appeared on all the streets roads and highways and people had damage 1 wheel or parts that helped with steering and people were getting prices for parts and they didn’t think of other factors like if you punctured a tyre and bent a rim they would get a price for them but they actually had to put a new tyre on the other side of the vehicle with the same tread pattern to be legally driven on the road. With just a wheel repair and 1 tyre the amount was enough but because so many people had sent in invoices they simply put the amount 3 x higher. Plus if the police turned up to were you had damage your vehicle even though it happened because of the disgusting conditions of the surface your driving on some potholes are as long as family vehicles and I’m not lying and others are as deep as a semi trucks steer tyres can make them so half the size of the tyre height and as wide which can easily kill a whole family going on holiday with caravan. Because you’re vehicle has sustained damage the police have two options and 1 definitely isn’t not giving you a ticket with a fine attached they have two different types of tickets they can issue and you are getting one 1 is not driving to the condition of the road causing a single vehicle accident 2 driving with undue care causing a single vehicle accident and with these tickets if you get one on a holiday period then 6 the 2 territories it’s double demerit points and the 3 states double as well but Queensland if you get the same ticket for speed or not using something that you should have in the space of 12 months then you lose say no seatbelt it’s $1,300 and 4 points and if you get another in 6 months then you have another $1,300 fine but 8 points on that ticket and now no license either and it’s 2,5 years before you get points back on your license. I asked a police bully one day how did they justify the theft amount they put on all the driving offences that citizens are hunted for you to meet quoters that you are given each month well they didn’t answer and decided they should search my vehicle and throw and break everything they could get away with onto the footpath and then after they took the handcuffs off that where 5 clicks more than they should have been and my hands purple when they came off they would leave and say have fun getting home and they would pull relays out under the bonnet and throw them on the grass with your stuff and they would warn you and say don’t go into any station and put in a complaint because any time your vehicle is off your property it’s going to have this done every time and for as long or more pulling it apart with tools or cutting every seat open up look in and they don’t have to pay for anything to be fixed because Australians have had just about every single right taken away from them if we question a cop they can and will throw you in the watch house and you will get 3-4 new charges from them before you get to see a lawyer or judge and we aren’t allowed to hold our cameras or phone and they are going to make a law citizens are not permitted to be able to record police interactions with any recording devices if they stop your vehicle enter your premises or you have a spy recording device on your person and the reason being is citizens should simply do the right thing and police wouldn’t have to stop them and then have an interaction with you and citizens shouldn’t have doubts that the police isn’t being honest with why you have been approached by police and citizens should simply obey and not question or suffer the consequences
it's about the same here in Canada. Just have to love living in a communist country that will tax you to death.Just wait untill you get a carbon tax and everything goes up 20-40%
The police can not search your vehicle without a warrant or probable cause. Unless you have a knife on the seat or other weapon in plain view, or they can smell weed etc then they can ask to search your car but you can say no and there is nothing they can do about it. The laws are exactly the same as for your house and even your mobile phone. They cant just say we will search your car now for no good reason other than that they want to. Most people don't know what their rights are so immediately drop to the ground to lick cops boots. FTP.
Sydney man here - got an old Falcon and have some 7" bullet hubcaps on my Rallye style wheels. The front bullets stick out about half an inch past the front guards. Cop attempted to defect me for them - immediately popped them off the wheels before he could get a photo. He was mighty disappointed lol Rules for wheels - they cannot protrude past the guard at all. Tyre tread cannot be seen from above it, its a pedestrian safety rule. Meh, Mexi-poke looks stupid anyway. Generally you can still build a really mad car to our regulations, its why we have the BEST quality, best built street cars in the world because we have to meet them. But yes, some of the rules are absolutely stupid, mostly its the enforcement of those rules on good enthusiasts which disappoints the most. No one wants a cut spring, buick V6 straight piped piece of shit around. We dont have stupid stance cars, doors off idiots, dangerous rustbucket shitboxes (for the most part because if its bad they will not pass rego checks) or Squat/Brodozer fuckwits everywhere. Not upset about that at all. I do wish they would ease up on the speeding fines though, ffs its 5mph over, go pull over the wanker doin 10 under in the fast lane
Aussie her, its 100000% true Also my State Queensland has what they call "Hoon Offences" So they can call basically anything they want "Hooning" and it doubles, triples or even more the Demerits and Fines It literally comes down to the Cop who does ya in, and they know NOTHING about Cars. They arent trained in Mechanics let alone Modifications, they see something that they think looks off and thats it, you're DONE Having said that I have a Highly Modified Car and Ive been pulled over twice in 10 years, have a clean Driving record and behave myself on the road, yet the fear is ALWAYS there. All it takes is the get pulled over ONCE by a Cop on a Power trip and/or in a Bad Mood or turn down the wrong street into an RBT or Defect Station and its over They drone on about how its for "Safety" yet call the after youve had your House broken into or youve been Assaulted and they dont give a single fuck, Drugs everywhere yet they hassle us
While hes not wrong about being defected for little stuff, he fails to mention that they also defect "modfied" cars that are genuinely unsafe and unroadworthy due to their modifications
It’s Australia wide and not just restricted to the car industry. It’s called over regulation and the problem is it’s accepted because the majority of law makers are completely ignorant of what the population wants.
In Melbourne, AUS we currently have serious issues with home invasions, knife crime and medical staff and ambulance workers getting attacked, but the police are more interested in fining people for modified vehicles..... sad times
What doesn’t help people with modified cars in Australia is not only are they loud and attract attention but also the standard of driving in Australia is absolutely appalling. So a combination of exceptionally bad drivers and noticeable cars gets people tickets. Speeding, tailgating, not paying attention are all rife across the country but if you stand out you’ll get picked on.
You forgot to mention they state that your car isn’t ’road worthy’ yet the roads aren’t car worthy.
Ain’t that the truth
This is the best comment on RUclips, the Bruce Hwy comes to mind.
Eastern states are easy . I’m from South Australia. You have it lucky
In Vic, photos are taken off all RW items. Vicroads also use metadata of the photos to minimize photos being used multiple times
yeah it gets a stress test every drive
We have the same tyrannical regime here in Norway… Instead of chasing down true criminals, the cops are out chasing modified exhausts and lowered cars…
Exept we dont want loud Volvos an bikes reving at 2 A.M while im trying to sleep
Facts
Yeah that makes total sense right ? Smh talk about a waste of resources huh
Cops always go after the easy low hanging fruit.
Its not a waste of resources its a money machine to get tax@GlennManchester
Hello! Aussie RUclipsr chiming in 😂
So I have been fortunate enough to be able to avoid police attention on all my cars in the past, but I am also under the mindset that if you modify your car tastefully, keep it clean and be a nice human to Police if they pull you over, you're usually pretty good.
However, the Night Scene car meets are a straight up avoid nowadays, any meet big or small after 5pm is a guarantee defect station. Which unfortunately kills a lot of the passion for people early on. Defcet Stations are a big thing, but they can also pull you asside during random breath testing, or just in general if they see you driving around.
What also makes matters worse, there are also a few of my RUclips friends, mainly in Melbourme, who regularly have police come door knocking to defect cars or give you a summons because of dangerous driving on RUclips Videos. They watch us very closely, but I can also understand that as us becoming larger "influencers" doing the right thing should be promoted. Anything on Social media here is HIGHLY watched by the government.
In saying that. I have delt with horrible Police Officers, and yes they will certainly turn a blind eye to proper wrecks on the road, where a tastefully modified car get pulled over and gets defected for "having bigger brakes without it being engineered".
Another huge issue is usually HWP dont know what they're looking for, and have been known to Defect OEM options on older cars, privacy glass and Standard Supercar Exhaust.
We also have terrible roads here, where pot holes can go months without being fixed, no many driveways or speed bumps actually allow for the minimum 100mm height limit, and roadworks sites that you physically have to avoid to hopefully not damage your car.
But as always, right time right place, If I'm ripping through the mountains in my evo with no one around and happen to be spotted by a cop, they usually dont mind much and say "slow down, if I see you again doing the same thing I'll have to act", and thats usually how it goes.
It's definitely become a time and place thing. And does also depend a bit more about what you drive. 10 years ago if a cop saw a modified Skyline or a modded Commodore they would almost always go after the Skyline. These days it's more or less how your behaving when they see you.
Thankfully my main modified car somewhat flies under the radar as long as it's moving. I've just got to take my chances at an RBT.
Also thankfully most of the night meets in SEQ seem to be ok as long as people aren't being muppets.
When it comes to modified cars Victoria seems to be the hardest on things followed by NSW.
A thoughtful comment.
There is no "tasteful modification, right place right time and good attitude" that will prevent police harrasment of your modified car. This draconian nanny state views car enthusiasts akin to if not worse than murderers and the the majority of the public agree, this is largely thanks to boomers, the government runs fear campaigns about "speeding" and have the strictest laws and lowest speed limits on earth, enthusiasts are a societally approved and encouraged source of repeated state revenue and it will never change
@ZacBaldy don't know if you remember the phase 5 give away by street machine years ago. An 85 or 86 XF Falcon with a v8 Windsor in it. The car never originally came out with a v8. Yet the winner apparently was a South Australian, and he couldn't register the car here because it didn't come with engineering paperwork, and no south Aussie engineer would sign off on the finished car as he didn't do the regular checks during the build.
Heh back when I was into it, if you weren't a dickhead and you weren't hanging out with dickheads then they had better things to do.
Unfortunately it's usually the few who spoil it for the many.
No matter how much you think you hate the government, it isn't enough.
Don't get me started on mean tweets...Holy shit.
Yea I hate roads, bridges, airports. Can’t stand the food and drug administration making sure medicine is safe and food isn’t poison.
@@justinborysenko3885oh look, another liberal that doesn’t understand nuance 🙄
@@justinborysenko3885you mean things people themselves have built and paid for?
@RogerAlan Made you look like a whiny child so you double down lol
Australia is not only the descendants of convicts. But also prison guards.
Still better than being descendants of a bunch of religious wingnuts who thought the Church of England allowed too much fun. Sigh.
But driving in the populated parts of Oz sounds like a complete drag anyway considering their speed enforcement is also completely draconian.
Not all of Australia champ do your research South Australia was an experimental British colony and the only Australian colony which did not take convicts.
Nah South Australia just proves Tasmanians can swim
@benmeech4972 😅
@@benmeech4972 let me guess your Victorian which would make sense from your low IQ answer.
One of Australia's major car websites recently reported of cars being 'defected' because, get this.. the Shift Pattern embossed into the top of the gear lever knob was obscured, worn out, no longer stock, or had been removed. The story originated from an incident in Western Australia, but when "Car Expert" investigated if other States also followed suit with similar legal interpretations of their laws, the good old Victorian Police reportedly said that yes a shift knob gear-pattern (or lack thereof) could possibly be a prosecutable offence, but would neither confirm or deny if it in fact was!
Speaking from personal experience, many years ago I was pulled over and received a fine from the Victoria Police for the crime of "Exhibiting Acceleration". Not 'excessive' acceleration, mind you - just exhibiting acceleration! No wheelspin or speeding involved whatsoever, merely accelerating from stationary too smartly for the liking of one single Policeman. Which raises many questions; including how can one proceed from stationary WITHOUT exhibiting some form of acceleration?? In other words, it's a convenient crime of perception, interpreted in random, and applied on a whim. Btw this was in the mid 1970s, my car was a stock 1969 Ford Fairmont V8, and iirc the fine was $63 or thereabouts.
Yes my son couldn't get RWC on his HZ cos it had a white cue ball on shifter from previous owner so he had to etch out the pattern for RWC. But for me back in the 80's i was pulled over every second week for RW checks cos of window tint and mag wheels on a stock standard car. Back then if you had tint and wheels you were a hoon. Best one was in melb cbd checks on batman ave (now fed square) where cop doing the checks didnt know how to change gears as he was sitting in drivers seat wanting to start engine to test brakes, told him to just press clutch since he couldnt find neutral.
No shift pattern on gear lever is a millenial anti theft device. And if you own the car , you never miss a gear ...
Yep. NSW the shift pattern needs to be displayed. Bought a car and first pink slip ( annual inspection ) put a new knob on as it was an aftermarket blank.
I’ve had modified cars for forty years in Australia and have never copped a defect. My ‘71 LTD 2door hardtop is lowered four inches, has 10 inch wide rears, cranky big block, loud exhaust, steering wheel and seats changed and was my daily driver for seven years. The cops can be arseholes at times but if you’re not being a dickhead they are generally pretty good. Annual road worthy certificates are a pain but it’s nice to know that the car heading towards my family has at least been checked by a mechanic in the last year. Anyway breaking rules and dodging cops has always been part of the game.
100%. The only time I copped a defect (too low was self clearing) was on a random back street taking a mate home from the pub and we just happened on an RBT station. And the guys there thought my car was a bit low so out came the wheel. They also thought it was a bit fumey (decent size cam in an LS will do that on idle)
But 1 defect in over 15 years owning said car wasn't bad. As you said it's part of the game. Had we taken a different street it'd have been no dramas.
Also the state you live in does dictate the rules. So what happened to me might not happen in another state.
Just shy of 40 years driving modified classic cars here in WA and never had a Canary on any vehicle, despite hundreds of police stops over the decades.
I can see that the eastern states are a hell of a lot more focused on defecting vehicles than they are over here!
@@docbob3030 Until you hit Tasmania where they truly no longer care
You drive like a woman nobody cares about your show car princess
Yep 18 year's of driving. Always had highly modified car's and have never had an issue. If your not out being an idiot they leave you alone. Pretty simple lol
Its absolutely bullshit the way we get treated.
Its all just revenue raising - our cops here are more of a business for profit, qnd are never there when you call them for anyrhing.
yeah the system is painful. police state. corrupt politian's
@horseshoe182 100% - it's a shame the car enthusiast party didn't get further.
Also, A Current Affair and those garbage TV shows have a lot to answer for.
@@communalnoodle1356 yeah, the whole thing is a shit show. young guys /gals , enthusiasts' need places to flog their machines, as well. shame about the car party.
@@communalnoodle1356ugh tell me about it, a current affair tries to convince people to think a dedicated car collector and enthusiast is lumped into the same category as a drug fucked kid who steals a car and kills an entire family
Why u think they privatised the police? So all the revenue they raise goes in their pockets instead of back into the system, yet our taxes still fund their operations. Mafia aint got anything on gov
The lesson here is when people expect the government to fix all their problems you get authoritarianism.
we don't expect the gov fix all our problems and never did, they are just corrupt cunts
Australian politicians are only good at "fixing' the sale of our mineral rights to foreign multinationals. The lack of revenue our mineral booms create leaves them hassling the small guy for the money to pay their wages.
Old mate is exaggerating a fair bit. Yes, modified cars get pulled over & defected all the time, but these are usually modified cars at the extreme end of the spectrum. Modifications are allowed within legal guidelines & most people who modify their cars adhere to those & never have a problem. MCM, who are in my State, modify cars on RUclips all the time & don't have issues because they do it within the guidelines.
Get in to motorcycles if you want to modify a vehicle without restrictions or concerns over being defected. There isn't a motorcycle in Australia that hasn't been modified, unless it's new & sitting on a showroom floor. All of my bikes are modified. I've already modified the brand new bike I bought 2 months ago with 17 modifications.
Corect, a lot of defects are due to the driver failing the attitude test
You can mod a motorcycle 🏍 but not a car. Just shows how stupid these goverment rule makers are.
They DO have issues, they don't tell you about it. Mechanical stig's cresta got done for example. If anything, the guy talking is UNDERSTATING the issue.
@@Coffee_Boss Attitude test? You are aware that random breath tests and random interceptions are UNLAWFUL in Australia yeah? and yes, that has gone through the court system. If a cop needs you to pass an "Attitude test" he shouldn't be doing that job.
As a retired ( semi) mechanic in new zealand , we have rules, obey them! If the minimum clearance is 100mm don't drop your car to 80, if the rules say cover your tyres, don't hang them 50mm outside the guards , if you have 9" rims don't put on tyres meant for 6" rims, the amount of crap mods that are on cars that are mainly performed by internet trained back yard goons horrify me as a 10.000hour apprentice trained mechanic (that's 5 years by the way) why spend $30 on a paint job and $500 on illegal mods that g
Some of what he says is true. But he is certainly stretching it or as we say down here he is ‘full of it’ .
Talking out of his arse. Cops often don't care if you mod your car unless you do something else that is illegal. Poor video from a usually decent channel.
Exactly - This bloke loves to exaggerate !!
Anything to get his face on the toobs
tbh hes pretty spot on - if youve ever owned an even slightly modified car is Australia, you know
@@1greenMitsi
I've owned over 15 modified vehicles over the years. I am not saying that modified cars don't get picked on, but he is way over exaggerating many of the "facts"
EG, if you get a defect for Loud Exhaust - then that's all you need to fix and have it presented. You can leave your Mags and other bits on ...
@@mpra7okyo - agree, which is why I said he is 'full of it'. 😇
I am an Aussie and given all the crime problems this country has (violent crime, theft, drugs etc) I don't think going after car mods is really the best use of police resources. If its a genuine issue (e.g. it makes the vehicle genuinely unsafe, it creates a hazard for other road users or it causes problems like excessive noise pollution) then sure, get it off the road but otherwise if its not harming anyone, let it be.
Follow the money.
Low hanging fruit...
There are AFP station Sergeants in Canberra that run the minimum number of RBT's they can get away with because they are such a resource intensive undertaking. Officers need to be diverted from other duties for several hours for an RBT stop that is only really viable for 10 minutes.
Some statistics.
In 2023, there were 409 homicides in Australia
In the same year, there were 1266 road fatalities.
Road deaths are the leading cause of death for young men aged 15-24 in Australia.
Still think it's not a problem? Not worth the police resources? That nobody's being harmed?
@@RacingAnt What were the cause of the road deaths?
something that he didn't mention is you can go through (I think its the state might be some other body) to get modifications certified by an engineer, but it is stupidly expensive so no one does it
and cops will still defect you with one because they're kuntss......
And (at least in some states) they still defect you for it.
and then get defected anyway, yes it happens
@@phoenixgaming20 workshops can do engineering as far as I’m aware, like for an engine swap or something. But as you said so expensive
As an American I was under the impression that you can still have your car taken off the road even if it goes through engineering. For "reasons."
Man this guy is exaggerating. I’ve been daily driving a modified car (bigger turbo, loud exhaust, lowered suspension) for ten years and have been pulled over 3-4 times. Never had the car gone over with a finetooth comb or defected.
Having said that… I’m not going to car meets, driving like a dickhead or getting around with completely bald tyres or a car that is so obviously illegally modified (slammed suspension etc).
Everybody has different experiences, this guy is talking the absolute worst case scenarios.
Main key with police is (a) don’t make yourself a target and (b) when you do encounter them, treat them like kings. It’s not fun but they feel respected and like they’re in authority and will often go easy.
Pretty much exactly my thoughts, I've only ever had one bad experience with a cop and it was probably my own silly fault for doing a half a burnout in a car park full of other people on a Saturday night. And although he was an aggressive twat, he still didn't book me. Neither did the cops who followed me all the way home from that car park on a different night and pulled me over in my street for a 'random breath test'. Nothing came of that either, I didn't speed or do anything wrong and they ignored my super loud choppy v8 because I didn't give them any grief.
back in 2010 I got my 66 HR defected for non standard bucket seats, I new right off that the cop was going to ping me for something when he started trying to tell me the factory rear seatbelts weren't factory and that he had bad eyes when he asked if my X2 twin carbs was a triple SU setup.... Full defect not to be driven after 72hrs....been thryu numerous breath testing stations and never a problem. After he stuck the sticker on I headed home (fuming) just up the road heading the other way was a car club cruise.......I was just in the wrong place with the wrong Copper...
Boot taste good?
A little respect goes a long way. I've avoided fines and defects simply by agreeing with everything they say and dropping the odd sir... Words are cheap! Fines and defects are expensive. I've literally been busted speeding in my car or using the push bike lane with my motorbike and left the scene with a warning ⚠️ it's too easy if you're smart
step one... pass the attitude test. step two... don't pull the piss
the tall poppy syndrome he mentions is also very prevalent in the uk
Norway also
Yes, but on the plus side we can drive what the F we like. I drove The Beast - Rolls-Royce Merlin aero engine, legal.
@@a34rwlyup the UK luckily is relatively relaxed on modification, yeah they do crack down if a car is not taxed or uninsured, or if something doesn’t look right the MOT can be revoked, but doesn’t happen that often.
There was also a guy who made a toy power wheels ride on car road legal and registered it.
Maybe you should check the accident statistics to check on why they are doing it. Here in New Zealand they are just as tough but if we have done the modification using proper parts we can get it certified at a testing station & it is fine to drive on the road. All cars here have to do a "warrant of fitness" every year or 6 months if it is older than year 2000, the WOF inspector goes over all the safety aspects of our cars. If there is a fault you need to have it fixed within a month & have it retested. It is a hassel but the cars on the road are at least safe to drive.
I've been driving modified cars in Aus for 18 years and never copped a defect notice.
Got out of plenty of defect notices by being polite and respectful to the police officers who pulled me over. A lot of mung beans can't understand this logic and get every car they ever owned sticker'd due to their shite attitude.
Hmmm yeah right…describe the fine line between being polite and respectful and kissing arse in these interactions?
Same with me. Heavily modified, but I think the real kicker is - people like us do sensible modification, and not the dickwad additions that look and sound utterly retarded and get unwanted attention.
@@omanhaddadtbh So, are you one of the "mung beans" he is referring to?
Never been defected but fcuk me gets harder every year to pass rego even on modified cars that look stock even though mods were not part of roadworthy or safety item tbh
@@brianlove8413 No.
Overly dramatic and inaccurate.
I live in the same state as him and you can modify your vehicle. Some mods require an approved engineer to sign off, but as long as you modify your car properly, then it's doable. Want to fit some brembos to your corolla.. absolutely, just get an engineer to inspect it and make sure you've done it right. He will OK it and you're fine. It''s a simple process.
Want to slam your car, fit tyres too small and run highly cambered suspension.... No, that is not allowed... for good reason.
QLD has no yearly roadworthy checks either. No emission tests.
The muppets who do stupid and dangerous mods deserve what they get. They are looking for attention and they get it from the cops.
It’s quality rage bait though. Rage bait gets all the clicks.
Here in the US, we don't need the government to tell us it likes how we modified our cars.
While he has hammed it up for the story a little, but nothing he said was untrue. The cops used to set up at the popular meet places on the Gold Coast all the time. One only has one road in and out, so they set up a road block and went through every car there. Basically took all night as my mate didn't get out of there until around 5am... If you don't believe it, you just haven't come across that special officer yet.
I'm in Canberra. If your car isn't extreme you're golden. I have a 50mm drop on my Lancer. Factory Clearance is just over 150mm. Wheels and Tyres are within factory spec (2%) and don't poke out past the guards, camber is within spec and regularly checked to reduce wear...
@@bwofficial1776 Sqautted trucks anyone.
Yeah y'all sure do make some crappy looking vehicles for sure.
I live in the ACT (The capitol of Australia). I've never had a defect, I've also never had my car inspected as part of an RBT. Yes, my car is modified within reason though, Lowered suspension, after market rims, strut brace and after market audio. It is all within limits though. It's not too low (meets the 100mm minimum), wheels and tires fit within the guards at correct offset, the wiring for the audio is all checked and approved...
This man is speaking some truth
I've had mates defected for factory OEM options on their Australian domestic market cars like gauges and fender mirrors
That usualy happens when they cops are butthurt that they know they cant get you on what they want to.... its a scape goat fine these days and nothing more.
That is because Australia is a police state
Yep. Not just WA any more
It's a country but whatever.
How do we come together to fix it?
@@Leistung.Autohaus a state is defined as both "a politically unified people occupying a definite territory; nation" AND
"the territory, or one of the territories, of a government".
In this case, the commenter means it in the first meaning, i.e. a sovereign state, not a state within a nation or country.
Yeah, weeds illegal, plus it was one of the worst places to be during Covid.
I have had 38 years worth of random breath tests... I have never been asked to show my license or had my car fine-tooth-combed. It is a four second processes.
All over australia.
Including in some modified vehicles.
You have a whole different flavour of luck.
I once had the cops try for a defect check when I pulled over to answer a phonecall. Lights checking my key position on the dash, his buddy walking around and checking my tyres...
"Mate, I'm pulled over and the car is off for a phonecall, what exactly are you looking for? Tread is fine, lights all work, not in operation."
Nek minute - breathalyser, wheel stick comes out, have to operate my lights to prove it. This is all despite them finding brand new tyres, car was stock height, and I don't drink.
They basically made a 2 min "what's up" turn into a 30 minute defect check, because they found nothing and were bored.
Well that’s a boomer for you observers here…
@@omanhaddadtbh Yeah, so he has an operable brain!
I have never had them not ask for my license in the 3 or 4 times I have been breath tested in the last few years. They also have quite an attitude, probably as most people dislike being randomly pulled over and have the appropriate disrespect for the situation themselves.
@@omanhaddadtbh These days they mostly use number plate recognition to get your details before they even talk to you. The last time I was asked for a licence there was a notice on the car due to the previous owner not paying fines (the registration can also be suspended for this reason). After explaining that I had just recently bought the car the sherif cleared the flag.
So, I’m in denial. I refuse to believe it true. Here in Detroit you can have a flame throwing turbo mustang go past the cops going 10 over the speed limit and they won’t even blink while eating their donuts.
In North Carolina people cruise the main strip in some towns with modified cars that are clearly not even street legal. The louder the exhaust the better. It's like a competition. As long as your not being a hooligan or racing the cops could care less. That's how it should be. Infact I rarely see people pulled over for speeding. When I see someone pulled over it's usually 3-5 cop cars and they all have their guns drawn. Kinda makes me laugh actually. Knowing they are taking the actual criminals off the streets.
This is very real.
In my state in Aus, that would get your car a major defect in an instant plus you'd get a speeding ticket for $385 and 3 Demerit points. Mind you if you're going 16mph over its an automatic loss of licence
I cut my exhaust of my '85 pontiac with a 305 v8. I'm in st louis county. Even drove it to Kansas city and back. Didn't nobody care. In California they would of gave me a very expensive ticket and maybe even towed my car.
Aussie here mate, its 100000% true
Also my State Queensland also has what they call "Hoon Offences" So they can call basically anything they want "Hooning" and it doubles, triples or even more the Demerits and Fines
It literally comes down to the Cop who does ya in, and they know NOTHING about Cars.
They arent trained in Mechanics let alone Modifications, they see something that they think looks off and thats it, you're DONE
Having said that I have a Highly Modified Car and Ive been pulled over twice in 10 years, have a clean Driving record and behave myself on the road, yet the fear is ALWAYS there.
All it takes is the get pulled over ONCE by a Cop on a Power trip and/or in a Bad Mood and its over
They drone on about how its for "Safety" yet call the after youve had your House broken into or youve been Assaulted and they dont give a single fuck, Drugs everywhere yet they hassle us
Here in western australia they arnt as tyrannical about modifying your vehicle as in the eastern states. But in saying that in my late teens early 20s i had VH commodore with ozzy 308. Nothing all that special but i did my roof carpentry apprenticeship during day and worked as cook at night, essentially 14 hr days, to pay for my 308 to be rebuilt with some mild modes, lumpy cam etc, my trimatic 3 speed rebuilt with a stage 2 shift kit, brand new exhaust fitted where i could swap out the muffler for straight through pipe for car events etc, and all new suspension all round with king spring lows and it ran on fat maxxis that wrapped 15inch pursuit rims, nothing crazy at all. On the friday night of the first week she was back on the rd! coming home from my dinnner shift i went through abooze bus and sure enough a sargent on a power trip to try and impress a rookie told me to pull up for a vehicle inspection. First thing he says is he asks who modified my exhaust? 😂 even with the muffler on he claimed it was to loud 🤔🤷♂️🤣. I told him no one modified, its a brand new performance exhaust system from an exhaust shop, i had the receipts for all new work done on the car sitting in the glove box. Then it was the usual pop the hood. When he opened it and saw the feshly rebuilt and sparkling clean 308 in sparkling clean engine bay all he had to say was " wow ". I piped up and said " you have no idea what you are looking at do ya mate? ' 😂. Yeh he didnt like that 😏🤷♂️😂. Funnly enough he didnt pick on how low my car was?🤔 lol but yeh proceeded to yellow sticker me for the apparently loud exhaust. I then got a $150 fine for abusing the shit out of him for smashing his fist on my boot when i started the car screaming " dont fking rev ur car! " lol being vacumm carby on the motor ( from memory a holly revenge? ) u tend to have give it a couple small pumps of accelerator to bring up fuel pressure 😂. Well actually first the sarge threaten to red sticker my car which made me fly of the rails even more telling him he had nothing to justify the yellow sticker let alone a red one! So he was like fine i will fine you for offence language and my response was " fk u and your power trip! " bam! $150 fine😂. The look on the rookies face when i flew of the rails was priceless. I did mention to the rookie that if he wants respect from car enthusiasts that aint the way to get it. Following monday i was at the pits where car cleard to be legal and inspector stating the sargent was a wanker for even putting it on 😂. My second home ended up being the pits with that car lol even though it wasnt anything all that special and not all that loud? Fk it was cop magnet!😂
I did one time get caught doing donuts on a street that was at the back of industrial yard that was never used. The rd was black with rubber as it was a popular spot lol. On that occasion i got a yellow sticker for bald tyres even though i was putting rd legal tyres back on 😏🤣 and that was it. Good old days! Where there was no such thing as a hoon law lol
Now i own a tiger mica red with gold flake 1977 HX GTS monaro with a 500hp 383 chev, sequential shift 3 speed turbo 400 built to handle 800hp, one piece tail shaft, 9inch with 3:47 ratio and detroit locker. I forget what suspension 🤔 but the springs light blue? Lol she is fairly low and sticks to the rd bloody well considering her size and weight. She has original 14inch GTS rims and she runs big 4 into 1 headers into twin 2 and half inch exhaust system with catalyic converters and no mufflers! 😏 this old girl is loud even at idle!😂 yet not once since the day ive owned her ( 15 years ) have i ever been pulled over by the police, not a single yellow sticker 🤔🤷♂️🤣. Actually Only time ive interacted with police while being in this car was 2 police officers coming over while i was idling at the servo asking if they could have a look 😏🤣👍. 8:54
It's no problem modifying your car here in Australia, but you have to do it the right way. There's rules on literally every aspect of modification and it's clearly stated in freely available documentation. Most of what you see in the video above is people modding their cars with no regard at all to what's legal, or what needs to be done to make it legal, then complaining the cops pick on them.
Yeah right they jump through hoops! I tried to put a factory suspension into my falcon that was optional on another variant same model. Not allowing it with out a engineers report
Was it 6 to v8 suspension? Some more details would be nice if y up to it. What were the models?
@@RandomRants525 it was an 1992 Spack Ute trying to lower it, this was all so in NZ but I think they use the Australian standard
Ive had 3 defects on my 180SX Type X wing obstructing view...its a factory OEM wing.
Ive fought each defect in court and won.
The issue is that the laws and the people that are meant to enforce them make no sense.
False, you're illegal in victoria Australia if you have more than two mods no matter what they are. Unless of course if you suck the govs dick and pay many thousands for engineering reports for basic mods, can you spell extortion!?
Learning about this actually pisses me the fuck off
wow you should go tell them how to run their country. its worked out great for yanks in the past.
@@Wutaskierdoes it not piss you off that there’s a country where you can get your car revoked from being drivable for being lowered an inch or an aftermarket shift knob?
@@shangsty Mate, I live in the same state as the guy in the video. He is telling inaccuracies from start to finish. Lots of modified cars here and a strong car culture. The video title should be "Cops single out dick heads for special attention"
@@shangsty No way you can get defected for a shift knob. It's a fixture. It'd be like getting defected for having a pair of fuzzy dice hanging from your visor.
@@Wutaskier We should. It has worked out pretty well.
Australia has almost reached the German level
Last time I checked I didnt have to revert my car back to stock or wasnt allowed to register it ever again after a defect notice. So it is even worse than in Germany which is insane
@@Crosstieger tuv testing trucks beg to disagree
@@Crosstieger no, that happens in Germany too. Sometimes they just take away your car even and will sell it off in auctions.
You will have to revert back to stock. It's especially bad in Hamburg or Berlin, where greens govern.
@@cartrips9263 I'm from the southwest, never heard of this happening. Might be an edge case? Afaik the legal system ends with a defective notice and revocing of the registration. The only cars I heard of being auctioned where seized before.
@Crosstieger nope happens all the time. Auctioning off only on bad cases, mostly when you also sped with the car.
Southwest is not that bad, as I said, the worst are Hamburg and Berlin and some other big cities and surroundings.
the worst part is the cops will look past genuinely unroadworthy pedestrian vehicles (i.e. Camry's with non functional lights & bald tyres) & go after a modified car
Car maker's design a car with specifications to meet Australian design rules, there's no vantage of lowering your car, yes it changes the centre of gravity. Bigger disc brakes is just for show. Yes it will give you more braking power but that's been factered in the design.
A lot of designs are for the average person. To cater for the average driver's abilities.
These laws are to protect people from themselves & innocent by standers. A lot of people think that they are very good driver's & very well might be. But you must be very aware of you soundings , thing's can change in a blink of an eye, Iam blind in my right eye & must extra careful when driving & never had a accident because I'm blind in my right eye.
and if they did - NO insurance for you!
As a licensed examiner in QLD.
The amount of cars that "Should have failed" a Road Worthy, were in pretty good condition.
I hate this war on modified cars.
Most of them are more maintained than some of the shit tins I have legimately seen.
As an ex cop you didn't really explain it very well
Insurance and registration cancelled is a bit of a stretch, lol but this is state by state discretion
And it's not a defect it's a "canary " (in Melbourne anyway)
Work shops turning a blind eye is extremely rare as photographs etc are needed to be submitted
I guess it's easy to hate on the rules but once you have had the unfortunate job of telling a family a loved one has died in an accident and it could have been prevented then you would understand why rules are in place
Cool story tho lol where did they find this guy 😅😅
Did you just equate modified cars to people dying...now that's a stretch! Wonder how many deaths on Australian roads this year are due to a car being modified and not something to do with a lack of driver education, poor roads or poor maintenance on their OEM vehicles...
Speaking as a mechanic who saw more then his fair share of un-roadworthy cars that got by without any scrutiny.
My Toyota Soarer got defeated for tems coil overs and wheels that were one size to small from stock, So I went and got engineering report and stuck it back to the m. Since the soarer was stock with airbag suspension even if I did put it back to stock it's not allowed in Australia anyway
This is really clickbait. So over dramatic. The guy comes across as a complete plonker to be honest. He doesn't even know the difference between a pink and a blue slip (which is nothing to do with modifications), yeah listen to him.
Fact is you can modify cars very easily in Australia. I have multiple modified cars. Yes, there are regulations that you're meant to adhere to when modifying a car. Go outside that and you're meant to get the car engineered (certified).
However, people drive some completely wild stuff on the street here with no problem. Even if it's not engineered and goes outside of the guidelines. For some, way outside the guidelines... Now, you run the gauntlet on these out there cars that you can get defected.
Ive been driving heavily modified cars in the eastern states for 35 years and no issues. Even when caught out doing the wrong thing on the street, I've always been let off. This guy comes across as someone who would definitely fail the attitude test and then have a cry afterwards about how hard done by he is.
Ironically, a lot of the strict rules around the repair of damaged vehicles actually came about because of the criminal element involved in rebirthing cars. It was even as bad as getting your well being threatened for bidding on the wrong damaged / stollen car at auction because it was earmarked by criminal gangs. NSW came down very hard on this and it's for the better. Some other states, not hard enough.
None of this affects the enjoyment of my modified cars. But hey, seems plenty of people commenting in here from elsewhere around the globe would tell me I should be leaving the country...
Best comment and way more accurate then this video 👍
This is very dramatic for what it’s actually like in Australia.
Yeah it's a bit over the top. Now sure we do have some dickhead cops who will defect you on the littlest of things but it's generally not as bad as this man makes it out to be.
as an aussie, this is 100% accurate 😂 I had 4 defects on 1 car in 1 year due to cops not liking something on a modified car, altho West Aus we don't have on the spot suspensions unless its hooning
The way you tell stories is amazing!
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As someone who loves all cars, modified or standard, I am ok with unsafe or unroadworthy being taken off the road. Most modifications are great but some are just horrific.
Yeah they even defect stuff for safety or improves safety such as big brake kits, better suspension, better seat, roll cage etc. all defectable without engineer plate. Which is quite expensive to do so. They make it hard at every turn to have a modded car.
It almost killed the car scene completely. Hoon laws were introduced, heavy police presence on any modded cars and it almost died.
It also makes parts and labour super expensive for modding cars because they need to pass all these regulations before they can be sold etc.
It sucks and one reason I haven't touched a car in a while. Can't be asses dealing with the cops, the cost and the BS around modding. I love it and will for sure go back again soon but for the time being I am sick of being pulled over for driving normally and having a perfectly working and maintained car, much better then 90% of the cars on the road safety wise. Yet it is deemed defective. Even with engineer plates they will still defect you and make it a huge time waste getting it inspected to just get taken off as the car is completely legal per regulations. It's so annoying.
Take up arms against the state
You can put bigger brakes etc on your car but they need to be engineered so they are actually safe seeing as you are changing the design aspects of the car and how it performs. Changing seats isn’t always making it safer as those seats need to pass certain safety tests first and then be okayed to be put in your car hence the engineer but in many cases now when people change seats or steering wheels they are removing airbags and this is the kind of thing that you say make the car safer but they dont
@knight2425 my point was that at every turn of modding a car there is a fee, or a restriction etc. I did mention you need it engineered but let's say you build a car that completely changed the drive line, diff, turbo, brakes, seats, exhaust, steering wheel, front mount, etc that can get very expensive.
And unlike most countries where you can swap almost anything into the car....there are restrictions at least in Qld where I am from no displacement larger then what originally came in the car. They won't engineer it otherwise.
I also mentioned the restrictions on mods on terms of passing certain safety guidelines etc which also increase the price of the products because they factor it in.
It's all barriers so people won't mod their cars more so then safety in my opinion.
I've been modding cars since I was 17 and it's changed to a very restricted thing I've the 20 or so years I've been doing it.
And regardless of engineering I've been defected just to piss me off and take up my time. They know full well my cars are all legal because I make a point of pointing out the engineering plate yet I still received defects that got taken off as soon as it is inspected. They just wasted my time basically.
It's all tricks and traps to discourage the car scene which pisses me off.
@ and my point was that most of the laws are to make sure the car is still safe not only to the occupation others that might be involved in an accident with it. Everything costs money and if you take up people time to get your car engineered then they want to be payed obviously and they won’t do it for nothing considering they are putting their name to it. I’ve modified cars for over 30 years and never been defected even though I’ve had loud and low cars, I put that down to my attitude with cops (been pulled over enough times) and I don’t drive like an idiot on the road or hangout with other stupidly modified cars, I don’t think me not being defected is just luck.
@knight2425 oh yeah I totally get what you are saying. I haven't been defected in a long time but when I owned a R34 I got pulled over weekly for inspections. This was when the hoons were mental and caused the scene to get targeted. So I understood it doesn't mean that some cops just wanted to pin ya for something. I knew if I ever got a defect that it would get taken off as soon as it was inspected. I've never had a major defect. Minor ones like blow off valve etc even though it was plumbed back stuff like that.
There is safety then there is over regulation is all I am saying. I feel for sure in Qld that it is over policed and over regulated. I'm all for safety but it went a bit overboard here
Another fun thing about being a car guy/girl in Australia is the EPA..
Exhaust noise limits are excessive in their restrictions and confusing at times and all you need to do is drive past someone and have them lodge a query with the EPA with your registration and you'll get a notice in the mail to get your vehicle exhaust noise tested by a certain date or your registration will be suspended.
Then there is limited places that are approved by the EPA to test the noise levels, you can't monitor the test and the conditions for your specific vehicle are hard to find at best and you have no way of confirming that the test has been done properly.
They even include "chirps" when the accelerator pedal is released at the test level (slow accel to test level - preset RPM level - then sudden release of accel)
You'll be told that "any vehicle with an aftermarket exhaust will fail" even though there is no OEM stockpile hidden away and at some point everyone will get aftermarket parts installed on cars.
You also have to pay for the test regardless of if you pass or fail, pass and you pay the costs of the test, fail and you pay the costs of the test, make the required changes and then pay for another test.
You can also be fined by the EPA on top of this if they deem it so, especially if you remove the MAF sensor, delete cats or bypass mufflers.
I've had a warning on a car I bought second hand but didn't modify, had to buy a whole new exhaust and test it, on another car I was reported to the EPA, it passed the testing first time without changes to the setup at all, still had to pay the "covert fine" for the test.
Exactly the same in Germany
In Germany you can modify your car with parts that are TUV certified. Which is most decent aftermarket parts. I’ve seen caged race cars with plates in Germany
@Racers-Setup-Guide my megane for example. Fully tüv approved. Just do it properly and you are all good
@@Racers-Setup-Guide Here in the US, we can put whatever we want on our cars without having to have the government's blessing.
@that depends on the state you’re registered in. But really only concern emissions
@bwofficial1776 it's just a way to make sure cars able to go over 300kmh legally are safe to do so
I had a fake (sticker) licence plate and darker than legal window tint on an Evo X that was slightly lowered on slightly wider wheels than stock. I had zero problems... even when two cops noticed my sticker plate, I still didn't get busted. *Attitude is everything.* Act &/or drive like a dropkick, you'll get done!
The real problem is that 'enthusiasts' are taking the pee these days, especially with loud exhausts. Ripping through residential streets at midnight at WOT is stupid. Those idiots are fudging up the scene for everyone.
Australia is somewhat relaxed compared to Switzerland! 'Cars with Luke' has touched on their tough laws many times.
This is why my car is a sleeper. cops don't give it a second look
I want to clear about the US. Each state and Commonwealth are different. Pennsylvania has some of the most restrictive road requirements where Ohio has some of the most lax laws. In Pennsylvania yearly inspections are required to legally drive on the road. Cars can be lowered to any height. They can be lifted to any height provided the bumpers are low enough for a lower vehicle to hit. Tires cannot be out beyond the fenders but fender extenders can be added to ensure mud and rocks cannot be slung and hit other drivers. Doors can be removed only if the mirrors are attached securely to the vehicle that allows drivers to see. Jeeps generally are the only ones people drive without doors and have mirror mounting available on the A pillar. All lights must work. The frames or unibodies must be solid, and no rust protruding that are an injury hazard are allowed. All brakes must work, brake shoes and pads must be of certain thickness. Tires also cannot be bald. Vehicles with emissions equipment made after 1974 are required to have all their original emissions equipment intact and visible. They don't necessarily have to work. 17 counties require emissions tests to ensure vehicles are not above certain pollution levels. Antique vehicles (those over 25 years old) and registered antique are exempt from the yearly inspection, but are not allowed to haul or be used daily. Ohio has no inspections, certain counties like Cuyahoga require emissions tests. They do have road side safety checks to make sure all lights and brakes work, but these are random. In Ohio fenderless cars are allowed so long as lights work.
No, THE worst place is Italy.
You cany even fit a wheel/tyre that isn't an approved one to your car unless it came as an option from the factory.
same as portugal
It is a shame that the highway patrol don't focus on road ragers and mobile phone users.
Australia is an absolutely shit place for car enthusiasts I don't understand why people, especially the ones that have money don't just buy a car and a house in Europe and go there to drive like 3 or 4 times a year. And with the taxes there you could buy a car and house in Europe for the same price as just a car in Australia
Yeah plenty of people I know are leaving or planning to leave, Makes no sense to stay in almost every way, It's a great country but the government is insane, We're taxed to hell for everything and almost everything costs more on average especially real estate and vehicles.
It's shit for car enthusiasts, and the women are low quality too
Because it takes over 25 hours to fly to Europe 😂
@@ryandevillers214 tough luck man either go to Europe and drive a straight pipe SVJ or drive a Stock Toyota Camry and if you 10kmh over you still might end up in jail
@speedhunters4606 definitely in my plans to buy a house in France and drive cool cars there but kids and dogs push these things back about a decade!!!
Its isn't "what the police don't like".. Its what places your vehicle in breach of the ADR's or Australian Design Rules. The rules that ensure cars remain safe for the road. It is the task of police to help enforce compliance with the ADR's
You'll be surprised what can place you in breach of the ADR's. Even off the shelf lowering kits can make you illegal.
What makes adherence to the ADR's an issue, is each state has its own interpetation of them. So for example, whats legal in New South Wales, might be illegal in all other states. (Of course, its fine to drive in those states with new south wales rego. if you move there, your car will not pass a road worthy/safety check..)..
At least I now understand how people in the USA can get away with driving absoute rust buckets and other dangerous vehicles on the road..
Your country needs to work on voting your government out. Change it from the inside. I know, easier said rhan done.
The problem is both major party's are left wing and authoritarian, The traditional left Labor party is far left and com and the Liberal/Nationals are centre left, Not to metion the Greens and their com origins, There are only a few independents that are normal anymore, I don't see a future here that doesn't end up like China/UK.
@@valiantthor_ Labor is so far removed from communism lmao. The dogwhistle is always that the ALP are commies but they really aren't.
The main point is: neither party is for the people. They only care about propping up moguls like Murdoch and giving their rich buddies kickbacks while we starve and can't even afford a house.
Its abit hard when the country is like 60% boomers with old time views
Hey VINwike, you must be proud of your camp followers. Their comments are priceless. So thoughtful, fair and erudite.
Singapore? California was my next guess.
California is by far, the most mod-restrictive state in the US.
Nice to see a South Aussie on Vinwiki.
In Australia you ARE in fact allowed to modify your car - but there is a number of red lines you can't cross. Under car clearance minimums, noise limits, emissions.. most of it is sensible and common sense. So you comply with all that, and you can modify the car not a problem. The rules are known in each state, it's not an arbitrary decision for the police.
I've had vehicles engineered and defected the next week because " those tyres don't look legal "
Back in the late 80's I witnessed a young cop defect an Australian chrysler for having no front springs. Even with our objections, the cop went ahead with the defect. The following Monday, we went out to the inspection center (Regency park for the South Aussies), and filled the carpark there with our cars (30 mates in all), for support. The face on the inspector said it all when he read the defect. Chrysler boys will understand.
Any modification is illegal
@nibba5692 is actually not strictly correct. Some modifications require engineers reports, which puts liability back on the engineer. IE forward facing bonnet air scoop. Yet Subaru wrx has just that. Because Subaru accepts liability if a pedestrian is injured by it, assuming the driver was not reckless. Some modifications are acceptable if the car was optioned with that modification. IE engine swaps. My car is a 6 cylinder, yet it was optioned with a 5L v8. All I need to do is an inspection to confirm engine number (to show not stolen), and to ensure it is fitted correctly. Manual to auto is common. Mind you the cost negates the conversion sometimes. In my case it's cheaper to sell my car and buy a v8 if I wanted one. Vehicle re-engineering is straight forward if done sensibly.
@@AdelaideGuy1968 in the eyes of the police any modification is illegal, try telling them this legalise mumbo jumbo in person and see what happens
I am an Aussie and this is just a load of crap most of the cars shown in the vid are over 30 years old which means they qualify for club rego which is super lenient with mods and other things, a couple of days ago I saw a vintage super cool XA Ford GT lowered and with a tunnel ram poking out of the hood going down the road no problem but obeying the road rules, this was on Pittwater road Manly Vale in Sydney but this is also the road where two young people were killed in a modified Toyota Yaris GR when they lost control of it at high speed a month back. We don't like hoons but register your modified car correctly and there are never any problems with it I know I own a mod 64 Chev, 82 BMW motorsport, 1928 Indian 101 and a 95 Ducati SS, any mods basically have to be safe not stupid.
Such a vibe, great atmosphere here!
Whilst I modify my street cars to a point, it isn't overboard or dangerous, and I have never had a issue with the police, I've been driving modified street cars since I got my licence in 1980
Most of the cars that get defected here are either modified poorly, or they are built, look, and sound like racecars
If you want a race car build it for the track or strip and put it on a trailer
If you want a modified street car, follow the bouncing ball
What do people expect when they build these things for the street
Also, since the law has come down harder on modified cars, there is a lot less news about highly modified street cars crashing and killing people
In the end, you can modify anything to a point, it'sall there in the states rules and regs for modifications, if you want more, engage a engineer and see what you can actually do legally and what is required for that
I've had cars engineered legally, from a engine swap, to adding a turbo, but, I was required to comply with engineering and emissions requirements
People complain about the cost of engineering, which in the scheme of a build, is actually a minimal out lay, people spend more on wheels and sound systems than what it costs to legally engineer a street car
The problem is people don't do these simple things, they roll the dice, then whinge when they get a defect notice
Attitude also comes into play, how you actually drive on the street, and how you talk to people is a common issue, but if you drive like a muppet on the street, and mouth off like a whinging child, you deserve to be treated that way
TL;DR: you reap what you sow
My completely stock ford bf wagon got a defect for being to dirty.
I had a mate get defected for standard brakes just because they were Brembos, After that he was like if I'm going to get done for standard might as well modify it anyway.
@@valiantthor_ There is no logic in them doing that either way, upgrading the brakes of a car in all situations just makes it more safe. Its all just crap.
@@MrFathead Yeah 100%
As an aussie; correction required here. If you have a modified car that you didn't bother to get engineered and approved, then you'll have those problems.
I had a turbo'd (not from factory), built motor, 500+rwhp falcon but it was completely legal.
This is a crock of shit. If you're lazy you'll get defected
Wow, another reason I have great disdain for Australia.
Brush up on your local states roadworthy legislation. I have been for my job, and you'll be surprised what's said is illegal, but it's actually legal are two massively different things. My dad's ute is probably 70mm off the ground from the exhaust, he bought it like that from a car dealer and he's been driving it around for 5 years with no issues
Australia sounds like HEAVEN 🇦🇺
I would love this in the US! Just imagine, no more Mustangs with no exhaust, no more backwards jacked trucks that the peabrain owner can’t see out of, no more ricers with machine gun sounding tailpipes and the icing on the cake maybe no more Harleys blasting theirs pipes in traffic and on once quiet backroads.
Quiet unmodified and safe vehicles, the way it’s supposed to be.
Move over here then. You might appreciate the strict car laws, but you might get sick of the strict over regulation and taxes of other things in life.
You're gonna love the holden commodores with no exhaust and the jacked patrols, lots of harleys too.
I agree with the cars, but for motorcycles, "loud pipes save lives"! There have been numerous times, when there's been a motorcycle in my blind spot, that I would not be aware of, if I didn't hear it. I hear the sound, look for it and see it, then, the motorcycle is safe. If I was unaware, I could make a lane change, that could put it at risk.
I ride a not loud motorcycle, any rider who is so unaware of their surroundings that they cruise in a car’s blind spot should not be riding. Loud pipes are for obnoxious antisocial hooligans who are begging for attention.
Mustang is the highest selling performance car in Aus, i see one in sydney every 3 mins driving.. sorry to burst ya bubble lol
Some cars just scream “pull me over” and are literally dangerous, like the dude pulled up and had a PlayStation gaming wheel as his steering wheel! Do sensible mods and you’re fine. I’ve got a 2011 VE series II Commodore Ute SV6 with a custom made stainless steel exhaust, headers, over top air intake and tuned on the dyno for 320 hp at the rear wheels and Bathurst style 18 inch rims (don’t do big rims) Never been pulled over once in 5 years of ownership and the car looks amazing in poison ivy metallic green. If you go on car runs you’re asking for trouble. But yeah here in Australia we have way too many rules!
Australia is a dystopian hellscape for people that value individual freedoms
Bullshit
not had an issue for years, but one extreme I've heard is a modified car being defected that was being transported on a flat bed, simply because it had number plate fitted, they went after it.
There is a definite "Convict/Jailer" mentality prevalent amongst many Police and public officials here in Australia that harks back to the very foundation of the country. Australia was established as a penal colony (essentially one big open-air jail) by the British Empire almost 240 years ago, and there were only two types of people that came here in the early days; prisoners from Britain & Ireland and their guards/administrators (the Royal Marines, British Government officials).
Of course over time free settlers arrived and later on many migrants from all corners of the globe, however the original mentality from the early convict days that the great unwashed public are generally a bunch of criminal misfits prone to breaking the law and must thus be kept on a very tight leash by the Police and government authorities with a zero-tolerance approach prevailed. Australia is one of the most over-policed, over-governed and over-regulated countries in the world today.
BS, more convicts were sent to the state of Georgia alone more than to Australia.
I failed a Roadworthy test once for a broken sun visor clip of all things.
Chris has missed the point here. If you wish to build a modded car, check with an automotive engineer first. We built a modded Toyota MA-70 Supra in 2015 but we spoke to an automotive engineer first about the mods. He emailed us a list of what we could & couldn't do. We built the modded Supra, transported it on a trailer to the engineer where he he inspects the car & puts on a build plate to say it's been modified. It was then registered & insurance was done through a specialist insurance company. The Supra is still on the road going to car shows & the owner has been pulled over by the police numerous times for their inspection. As long as you have the paperwork & the new build plate, you're fine.
Most people who want to mod their cars really have no idea where to start. They don't bother with an automotive engineer in the beginning or even bother to check their states transport department for rules. They just build what they think is fine & then when they're out on the road & get pulled over by the cops, they go nasty. Some of the homemade mods I've seen would make people cringe. Rule of thumb, when building a modded street car, check with your state transport department as each state in Australia has different rules & talk to an automotive engineer that is credited to give you a modded build plate.
If you're building a modded car for something like 12's for $2K event, then that vehicle can't be road registered & has be towed by a car trailer to the event.
I am in Australia and have always driven modified cars, I've only ever been defected once... and that was probably a combination of a cop with an attitude and me drawing attention to myself by heavily braking before a speed trap (back when radar detectors were legal in WA). They couldn't get me for the speeding so they got me with a defect. :/
Generally if you don't go around drawing huge amounts of attention to yourself, and pass the "attitude test" when you do have an interaction with the police (RBT, minor traffic offence etc) you don't have to worry too much as 9/10 a blind eye is turned. ;D
I used to think I'd lucked out being born in Aussie/NZ. After Covid and everything else that's happened, America has never been more appealing!
Here in the U.S., the #1 public complaint is the incredibly loud (and childlike, 'look at me'), modified exhausts on cars (motorcycles... and scooters, too). Many cars also have cut-out exhausts, where, with the flip of a switch, the mufflers are bypassed and the resulting NOISE can vibrate houses and is extremely obnoxious. Again, it is due to the very juvenile, 'LOOK AT ME. AREN'T I COOL!', attitude....which makes it worse for everyone else.
Australia is fighting the “individual rights” challenge as well. Same in UK, U.S. The right to be left alone against the tyranny and boot of the ever more powerful government.
Oddly, the unparalleled nanny state (California) leaves motor vehicles alone. Car culture is a political third rail. California remains the only state where splitting lanes on a motorcycle is legal. Our Highway Patrol is excellent, truly concerned with our safety. No ticky tack tickets.
Driving a motorcycle between cars is dangerous though. No one expects it and if a car makes a sudden move the biker goes splat. There's a good reason why it's illegal everywhere else.
Read the comments, Australians defend this stuff and will make up excuses for it being "the right thing to do", hell airsoft isn't even legal hear and majority of Aussies think it's an amazing idea to not allow it.
This dude’s spiel is well and truly over the top.
If you drive like a peanut, give any lip to the ladies and gentlemen in blue or blatantly and obviously have a vehicle that appears unsafe, that’s on you. If you modify a car tastefully and go through all the appropriate channels and drive to the rules (as you should anyway) they won’t give you a second thought.
I’ve owned and driven quite a few modified cars in Australia for decades and aside from the odd speeding ticket my cars have never been scrutinised. I’m even building an Australian Cannonball car but it’s all within the regulations (save for some countermeasures, but they’ll never know they’re there).
Has anyone from the Mighty Car Mods Cinematic Universe ever had their car taken off the road due to being unsafe?
They will also, if you fail the attitude test, put the sticker on sideways to let the people at the inspection place know not to let it pass.....
What is the attitude test?
@StayAt_Redline kicking off at the cops, being a smart mouth etc
@@StayAt_Redline asking the cop "haven't you got some real crimes to deal with?"
I am a car enthusiast but I get irritated with lifted trucks, guys rolling coal, exhausts that have excessive pops and bangs... its really annoying and jarring for the general public. Lifted trucks are just unsafe for pedestrians.... I work on the pipeline and lifted trucks do have a purpose but they shouldn't be in cities. This is an issue that the car community and the aftermarket supply companies need to self regulate, if you not than gov't officials will. Go drive in india and tell me how you like driving on roads with no rules, its crazy and i wouldn't want to live that way.
The level of entitlement.
You summed it up perfectly mate😂😂
Yea, F that. I understand safety, but this is insanity and simply a revenue generator. It sounds like you can be forced to throw away a perfectly good vehicle for subjective and arbitrary reasons. People have to replace those vehicles. I wonder if there is an auto dealer's association that pushes these laws and is what keeps them on the books via some kind of lobby effort.
They best way to modify cars in Australia is to get it plated ( compliance plated, where they check it for you to make sure it is allowed by the department of main roads) and you'll have no problems , but most people just do it and don't check the laws . Plus some of the items they put on their vehicles are already marked not fit for road use or may not be legal to place on your vehicle.
Road pirates are the same everywhere.
Where i live cops care so little people drive their cars with the entire front clip missing from accidents and nothing. So depends where you live
Sorry as an Aussie in the industry I can say 90% of those cars aren’t doing the right thing. They behave like peanuts and do dangerous stuff. And some mods so poorly done it’s lethal. He’s talking out of his butt because he just wants do do what he wants with no consequences
The reason we get nailed is because they can make money off fines or defects, there s no money in actual criminal's most of the time. It's just revenue raising
Here in south africa they're strict only if you don't have money unfortunately. Even as simple as lowering, changing wheels to a lower profile if doesn't look oem and lights get you fined severely, license disks get taken but then again that when they want the extra pay. So corrupt with laws
I didn't think that there was a branch of government that I could dislike more than our current one, but I was wrong!
Everywhere except for a small town in nt called Alice Springs, go there for 5 mi. And you will see numerous lifted modified etc 4x4s aswell as stuff that is straight up not roadworthy, windows smashed, mismatched wheels, missing bumpers etc it's crazy
This is what happens when a population allows themselves to be disarmed.
I've lived in europe all my life and then move to Australia 6 years ago. All I can say is Europe is 10000 times more strict than AU. ACT don't even have yearly inspections that you need to pass lol. And in NSW you can go to any back yard mechanic to get your yearly registration done easily. In europe they only have government places that do checks which are a lot more strict. In Australia they don't test CO2 emissions either. Defecting 4wds that are slightly higher than stock is absolutely ridiculous tho. Not wrong there.
Australia. A country of Karen’s that confiscated everyone’s guns
In the USA there are 52 states with almost as many different rulings . Just think about this some usa states require no trailer brakes .Left upto the owner .
In Australia people cut springs then lower car under 100mm . Illegal window tint very common . Wheel spacers . Many mods are only for track use only . Increasing power or capacity can be done by only a certain amount % . . Yes there are legal turbo conversions and illegal versions . Alternately u could fit a 50k-100k engine that barely fits a bonnet and expect a roadworthy when it protrudes that much it will kill a pedestrian .
So if u your rules back to front u can adjust them legally . End story
Americans in the comments raging about tyranny. Bros, you invented the TSA and you bend over for them every single time you fly.
This might be the most perfect and succinct summary of the modified car scene in Australia and the police presence that feeds off it.
Now the random breath testing spots they setup they will give you a breath test then drug test then if you pass that they will then ask to search your vehicle and they don’t need a reason other than they want to look through your vehicle and if they still find nothing then they check absolutely everything on your vehicle to see if they can find something wrong to give you a defect ticket and charge you a fine that is so big that it makes no sense for the amount the fine is.
With them checking the height of your vehicle is illegal because they are checking on a surface they haven’t the knowledge or the required tools laser level to check the surface to be level and able to check the height correctly.
They put millions of dollars into all the planing area’s to set the stations up and all the other costs are absolutely disgusting.
They put a add on social media how they are adding a new 300 series land to be a undercover police vehicle and it has been kitted out with heaps of aftermarket parts and then the $50-$70k wiring and lighting kits so they end up with a $300k police vehicle and this is for 1 vehicle.
They could setup Suzuki jimney’s with absolutely everything it needs to be a undercover vehicle and they would be able to have 10 of them for the price of 1 Toyota landcruiser
The major issues citizens are talking about and if there wheels or suspension anything on the vehicle from hitting a pothole In Australia the council or roads department very really if every pay for the damages yet it’s a law that they have to but they have put a amount of damage cost in Queensland we had storms and 100’s of 1000’s of potholes appeared on all the streets roads and highways and people had damage 1 wheel or parts that helped with steering and people were getting prices for parts and they didn’t think of other factors like if you punctured a tyre and bent a rim they would get a price for them but they actually had to put a new tyre on the other side of the vehicle with the same tread pattern to be legally driven on the road.
With just a wheel repair and 1 tyre the amount was enough but because so many people had sent in invoices they simply put the amount 3 x higher.
Plus if the police turned up to were you had damage your vehicle even though it happened because of the disgusting conditions of the surface your driving on some potholes are as long as family vehicles and I’m not lying and others are as deep as a semi trucks steer tyres can make them so half the size of the tyre height and as wide which can easily kill a whole family going on holiday with caravan.
Because you’re vehicle has sustained damage the police have two options and 1 definitely isn’t not giving you a ticket with a fine attached they have two different types of tickets they can issue and you are getting one 1 is not driving to the condition of the road causing a single vehicle accident 2 driving with undue care causing a single vehicle accident and with these tickets if you get one on a holiday period then 6 the 2 territories it’s double demerit points and the 3 states double as well but Queensland if you get the same ticket for speed or not using something that you should have in the space of 12 months then you lose say no seatbelt it’s $1,300 and 4 points and if you get another in 6 months then you have another $1,300 fine but 8 points on that ticket and now no license either and it’s 2,5 years before you get points back on your license.
I asked a police bully one day how did they justify the theft amount they put on all the driving offences that citizens are hunted for you to meet quoters that you are given each month well they didn’t answer and decided they should search my vehicle and throw and break everything they could get away with onto the footpath and then after they took the handcuffs off that where 5 clicks more than they should have been and my hands purple when they came off they would leave and say have fun getting home and they would pull relays out under the bonnet and throw them on the grass with your stuff and they would warn you and say don’t go into any station and put in a complaint because any time your vehicle is off your property it’s going to have this done every time and for as long or more pulling it apart with tools or cutting every seat open up look in and they don’t have to pay for anything to be fixed because Australians have had just about every single right taken away from them if we question a cop they can and will throw you in the watch house and you will get 3-4 new charges from them before you get to see a lawyer or judge and we aren’t allowed to hold our cameras or phone and they are going to make a law citizens are not permitted to be able to record police interactions with any recording devices if they stop your vehicle enter your premises or you have a spy recording device on your person and the reason being is citizens should simply do the right thing and police wouldn’t have to stop them and then have an interaction with you and citizens shouldn’t have doubts that the police isn’t being honest with why you have been approached by police and citizens should simply obey and not question or suffer the consequences
it's about the same here in Canada. Just have to love living in a communist country that will tax you to death.Just wait untill you get a carbon tax and everything goes up 20-40%
The police can not search your vehicle without a warrant or probable cause. Unless you have a knife on the seat or other weapon in plain view, or they can smell weed etc then they can ask to search your car but you can say no and there is nothing they can do about it. The laws are exactly the same as for your house and even your mobile phone. They cant just say we will search your car now for no good reason other than that they want to. Most people don't know what their rights are so immediately drop to the ground to lick cops boots. FTP.
Sydney man here - got an old Falcon and have some 7" bullet hubcaps on my Rallye style wheels. The front bullets stick out about half an inch past the front guards. Cop attempted to defect me for them - immediately popped them off the wheels before he could get a photo. He was mighty disappointed lol
Rules for wheels - they cannot protrude past the guard at all. Tyre tread cannot be seen from above it, its a pedestrian safety rule. Meh, Mexi-poke looks stupid anyway.
Generally you can still build a really mad car to our regulations, its why we have the BEST quality, best built street cars in the world because we have to meet them.
But yes, some of the rules are absolutely stupid, mostly its the enforcement of those rules on good enthusiasts which disappoints the most. No one wants a cut spring, buick V6 straight piped piece of shit around. We dont have stupid stance cars, doors off idiots, dangerous rustbucket shitboxes (for the most part because if its bad they will not pass rego checks) or Squat/Brodozer fuckwits everywhere.
Not upset about that at all. I do wish they would ease up on the speeding fines though, ffs its 5mph over, go pull over the wanker doin 10 under in the fast lane
Australia has lost it's way...
Your not wrong this country is getting worse as the years go on. Can’t have fun anymore cos a Karen complains and causes a scene
@@Tennyson_W05 too bad they took your guns away a couple years back
@@pavevbogovev4045 yeah don’t go there lol. that whole situation was sus as hell
@Tennyson_W05 I just don't understand how the rough and ready folks there let the government run right over them 😒
@@maxdevlin4349 over time got fed promises but what we got was lies
Aussie her, its 100000% true
Also my State Queensland has what they call "Hoon Offences" So they can call basically anything they want "Hooning" and it doubles, triples or even more the Demerits and Fines
It literally comes down to the Cop who does ya in, and they know NOTHING about Cars.
They arent trained in Mechanics let alone Modifications, they see something that they think looks off and thats it, you're DONE
Having said that I have a Highly Modified Car and Ive been pulled over twice in 10 years, have a clean Driving record and behave myself on the road, yet the fear is ALWAYS there.
All it takes is the get pulled over ONCE by a Cop on a Power trip and/or in a Bad Mood or turn down the wrong street into an RBT or Defect Station and its over
They drone on about how its for "Safety" yet call the after youve had your House broken into or youve been Assaulted and they dont give a single fuck, Drugs everywhere yet they hassle us
While hes not wrong about being defected for little stuff, he fails to mention that they also defect "modfied" cars that are genuinely unsafe and unroadworthy due to their modifications
It’s Australia wide and not just restricted to the car industry. It’s called over regulation and the problem is it’s accepted because the majority of law makers are completely ignorant of what the population wants.
Could've told you this was going to be Australia without the thumbnail lol
Spain says hold my beer. You cannot even get a modified car on the road.
In Melbourne, AUS we currently have serious issues with home invasions, knife crime and medical staff and ambulance workers getting attacked, but the police are more interested in fining people for modified vehicles..... sad times
What doesn’t help people with modified cars in Australia is not only are they loud and attract attention but also the standard of driving in Australia is absolutely appalling. So a combination of exceptionally bad drivers and noticeable cars gets people tickets. Speeding, tailgating, not paying attention are all rife across the country but if you stand out you’ll get picked on.
Australia is a fucking police state mate.
Can you even define "police state"? Or are you just doing political propaganda 🤔 because Utah does very similar things mentioned in this video.