ralfy review 984 - Jura Bourbon cask @40%vol: (Bargain)
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
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Many years ago Jura 10yo Origin was the first single malt I tried, and it got my Dad, brother and I into the whisky world. I used to love their Superstition and Prophecy as well. It was inevitable that we moved on and alas so did Jura. Sometimes I'm tempted to get those old bottlings on auction but I do wonder if its very much a fond memory that would be ruined by trying them again all these years later.
Some of the Liquor stores in the outskirts of Glasgow will still carry those bottlings. Still got crates in storage I guess
Same, Jura Elixir got me into whisky and I know several people who got hooked as a result of trying Jura
I quite enjoyed the Jura of that era, which is one reason that the current version was such a disappointment.
Jura is my favourite Scottish island. A truly amazing place to visit and stay for a couple of days. A trip to the end of the road past George Orwell's house and onto the Corrywreckan is a must.
Great presentation and interesting dram , the life process most people find themselves in now is a challenge for most , shopping around for acceptable price drams now is interesting, and as you say, budget access to them.
I'm glad to see more appreciation for less expensive whisky. There are some low price whiskies that I have always liked and I dont like it when low price whisky is excluded from the conversation just for the assumption that they just 'bottom shelf'. I'm glad to hear that Ralffy doesn't feel that way. Value for the price is more important to talk about.
Jura 10 was the third bottle I ever bought. Beat the non age statement Glenmorray and Glenlivet by a mile. I'll always recommend Jura to newer whisky drinkers
I'm an experienced whisky drinker and have been enjoying the Jura Journey. Sure it's not the best whisky I've ever tried but it's perfectly decent and characterful even at 40%. And of course it could be better if naturally presented. But I remember ten years ago that whiskies which are now lauded because they have been praised by influencers were considered average at best, and suffered the same 'groupthink' as Jura still does. Those include Loch Lomond, Glen Scotia, Tobermory/Ledaig, Speyburn, Deanston etc NB Last year I picked up a bottle of Glen Keith for £20 and this year a bottle of Glen Scotia 10yo for £25.
Nice comment DavidUKesb.
10 plus years ago, Loch Lomond wasn't what it was today. It's a much better product now.
10 plus years ago, Glen Scotia and Tobermory were not the distilleries they once were. I remember Tobermory 10 in the old wide bottles. It was awful stuff. Today these distilleries are wonderful. Similar to Deanston. in those days, Deanston had a couple of core ranges back in the early 2000s. All bottled at 40% abv, coloured and chill filtered. They were poor. Today Deanston is a star distillery.
On the other hand, Jura is still stuck in the bad old days of chill filtration, 40% abv and colouring. It's such a shame.
Exactly what I was thinking!
Just a few years back, we could buy a 12y Glendronach for under 30 Euro. Now all you get for that is a NAS Jura at 40%, with E150a and chill filtration. Sad times indeed
Would love a mini series on decent malts (indie bottled) from maligned distilleries that ruin there own whiskies- eg, Jura, tamnavulin, macallan, aerstone etc
I recently picked up a very nice Jura from James Eadie.
Can't agree with you more about buying discount bottles. 1. You save a penny while 2. building your vocabulary of taste and smell. And 3. knowing what you like vs. what is good or great scotch or single malts that should be avoided. Discount bottles offer an education in distilling, aging and end product without breaking the bank. Last but certainly not least, single barrel picks and independent bottlings give you an insight into the production process of most distilleries. And what a find they can be when they are discounted. Cheers!
Thank you very much for reviewing this and other 'budget' whiskies Ralfy - it is important for those of us with little disposable income but don't wish to forgo our single malts. I have to say though; appreciation of good quality malts is not exclusive to those that have drunk whiskies for many a year. When funds have allowed or whisky is gifted, I have sought out and can recognise the marked increase in quality when the whisky is an integrity presentation. That will always be the benchmark for me 😺😺.
Jura the Bay is a stunning whisky.
Thank you, Ralfy. This is a great video with a useful message.
As a whisky geek with a strong tropism to cask strength bottlings, I was recently quite surprised to really enjoy the Glen Scotia Campbelltown Harbour, despite it being NAS, chill-filtered, colored and 40%. Also retailing in the low 20 pounds range.
No awkward moment that time! 😀 For an easy-drinking, uncomplicated experience, I will admit I remain quite partial to Black Bottle: £16.80 when purchased last year, and then dropped to just under £16 shortly after that.
Black Bottle is still a very decent blend. To bump up the flavor a bit, add a tablespoon or two of your favorite Islay single malt to a bottle of BB - it'll taste more like it used to!
About 15 years ago or so, I could get Highland Park 12 for $26.00 a bottle, Laphroaig 10 for $30.00 and all three of the very good blended malts offered by Jon, Mark and Robbo (JMR) for $25.00 to $27.00 each. That kept going for only about a year, but it was great while it lasted!
Thank you for the interesting review. I ended up here because like you I bought a bottle of this because it was £23 in Tesco. I imagine they are having a push at supermarkets to get rid of it.
I really don't agree with your experience on the nose, but that's OK, I don't have your nose. For me it was harsh, overwhelming to the point of burning and I had some just about an hour ago as of writing.
My bottle has a very similar amount left as yours does because I really do not like it at all. I tried a dash of water, I tried some ice. I'm not one for mixers other than the odd good dry ginger ale. None of them improved it to the point of me wanting to drink it more.
For me this will be going on the GFG shelf ( garbage for unwanted guests ). I'm not sure this one will ever get finished, though I could dump it in coffee. Yes, my mother is a McAlistair from Glasgow but my father is from Denmark and I'm from Manchester. So I am pretty much a heathen.
For this, I was more reminded of a Woodford Reserve cask bourbon, which is another drink that is way to sharp and hot for my taste, at least out of the bottle.
Maybe I was spoiled by the Cardhu I just finished.
Interesting review! I bought a Jura with a manzanilla sherry finish from Cadenhead’s this spring and I realy like it.
I liked the Jura Superstition that was lightly peated and 43%ABV that I got on close out years ago but I wouldn't pay MSRP what was $60 over 5 years ago. I got mini's of it for about $1.75 each that comes out to about $30 a bottle. It was pretty tasty for the money
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wonderful review, saw it for 20£ at sainsbury’s and was curious
I tried Jura 12 fairly recently and was pretty impressed how well it delivered a distinctive flavour even at 40%. There is good whiskey there, and I bet it would be very nice indeed as an integrity bottling.
Good morning from Trinidad and Tobago in the Caribbean. 4:45 am lol.really enjoy your opinion and taste reviews. For me this is a whisky encyclopedia
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Jura has it's place, a gateway whisky for many.
The people who talk it down are the same who apologise for Bunnahabhain 12CS being £75 a bottle and simultaneously bemoan of the lack of value.
Agree on indy bottlings, some real treats out there.
Just had a bottle of red wine cask at 25£ but I prefer Tamnauvulins cheap expression of red wine cask. Never been happy with any of the Jura bottlings including the 18 year old. I recently bought jura red wine cask, glen moray twisted vine and jack daniels mclaren and drank the jura first to get it out of the way. I quite like the glen moray twisted vine and the jd is surprisingly memorable for a 40% ABV
Nice to see a Jura review. I purchased 2 bottles of Tastival of 2016 and 2017 versions.(in 2017 and 2018) Havent opened them yet. Both are bottled at 51% Alcohol, and were hand picked barrels for a specific profile for an island festival....so I am hoping they will be a tad more complex, flavorful and interesting... than the standard bottlings......
I only had the "Journey". It sitting on my shelf for a few years, I've never reached for it.. 1/3 ended up in my blend decanter. For around 20€ I can get Tomatin Legacy. The virgin oak and slightly better 43% somehow works. I find it better than Tomatin 12...
Recently bought the James Eadie 11 year Jura as only ever had official caramelised versions, and wanted to try more natural version Really enjoyable malt with definite west coast character. However may have to consider this sort of option in few years when fixed rate comes to end. Until then expanding the stash…
it was completely unknown to me until my supermarket replaced my usual order with a jura bourbon - and while i was put off by 'bourbon cask' marketing, i'm glad i checked this out
once you get past the bourbon notes, you _can_ sort of see a proper whiskey trying to get out: and yes, it's nothing to write home about but it's also rather inoffensive and very easy to drink
I just recently bought a bottle of Glen Grant 12 yr old for 25.00 dollars (with 20% tax on top of that. Here in the State of Washington we have a high tax on spirits). But be that as it may, it was a good buy here, and a very decent dram. I will get another at that price (it was discounted 10.00).
Greetings Mr Ralfy and thank you so much for another informative review. We have certainly felt the pressure from the economy, especially down here in Australia. I believe we are on the dge of another rescission. That single malt here is Aus is $65, and I personally only have had Jura 12 year old, which I'd my least fav single malt of all time. My go-to on that price range is Aerstone 10 year old, which is usually on sale for $56. If that Jura comes down to around $50, I will try it. I have recently started opening up my single malt collected bottles that I have kept over the years simply because I can't afford buying anymore. Lost my house to divorce settlement and now paying rent twice as normal price because of this crazy housing market. It's gonna be a tough ride for most of us in the next 2 or 3 years.
Hey Ralfy, how it happened that Jura Bourbon cask NAS (chill filtered) receives the malt mark of 79, while Speyburn 15yo (non chill filtered) was awarded with just 81? Two points of difference for two such entirely different malts?
Just wonder is there anything wrong with the malt marks these days. 😉
Please, do, Ralfy! Open a splendid Jura for us, please!
Really would like to see that review of an independently bottled Jura. Thanks for your videos.
Got this for a bargain didn't really enjoy it until 8 or nine weeks in when it was below the half way mark but enjoying it ok now though the jury journey is way way better though not at all complex still really palatable and nice .
Happy with the review I think it's fair. This budget Jura is good and if you want to get into whisky I'd say buy a bottle, as you'll want to drink more whisky after. A safe whisky and a good review Ralfy.
Excellent base for vatting/blending my own.
You were predisposed to not liking it….I was postdisposed to not liking it, I think it’s still in the back of the cupboard half full. Perhaps since it’s been 5 years I might give it another go. Thanks for a vlog on inexpensive availability whiskys.
got Loch Lomond 12 here in Cali at K&L for $22 that was a holiday box with 2 mini's included
Bit out of the topic Ralfy, but have you heard Wolfburn released their first 10 year old whisky? Im a very big fan of the distillery like yourself but bit afraid of purchasing a bottle of their 10 since I saw there are quite mixed reviews and im afraid not to be disappointed. ( especially because everything I've tried from the distillery was very impressive and the 10 is bit pricy). Would be very curious to see a review of that one and your opinion ;)
for me only the peated Jura's were interresting. And some IBs of course.
Deanston Kentucky Cask is £14.80 at a certain well-known online retailer
Bargain of the year. I brought ten bottles, to give to my pals rather then my prized Glenallachie 🙌
Yeah...I bought a couple at that price too; well worth it for that identifiable Deanston taste and although not integrity presentation, is a very acceptable single malt for those of us on a budget.
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"Hello you mellifluous, malted magnificos!' -short malt mention Ralfy.
I wish the distillery would bottle the "wild" version of the distillate; the honeyed, walnutty, salty, lightly peated, porridge-made-with-milk-foam version you could sometimes find in mid-teens independent bottlings. Maybe that's even an entirely different distillate from what they use in the official bottlings?
Its now on sale in an dutch onlineshop for just 18,95€. Even cheaper.
Hi Ralfy, I saw Jura in my local supermarket too, next to the Bourbon cask on there was a "Pale Ale" cask variant? have to tried that one?
So that leads us back to the Queen Margot and the Whisky-Portfolio of Lidl...
You, sir, are the King of the Whiskey World! Outstanding show, as always.
The problem that I see with Jura is that the distillery doesn’t have a recognizable brand identity these days. Selling their whisky at such low prices devalues a brand that is already struggling to be perceived as a quality product.
I had a bottle of the Jura Diurachs Own which was a 16 year old and really enjoyed it. Too bad they dropped that line
Yes it was rather nice.
My brother bought me this for my birthday. I like it
Looks like this more or less a direct replacement for the Jura Journey which Amazon has been selling for £22 for several years (similar prices here in Germany though those include ~£6 less alcohol duty). Supermarkets have higher operating costs than Amazon, so they might have made a loss but I rather doubt that Whyte & Mackay have been selling this at a loss for several years.
Malt mention from Charris:
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I bought a bottle of Aber Falls single malt whisky for £14 in Asda recently.
Got the pale ale jura two weeks ago . Really nice
If it was discounted by the supermarket, surely they are losing money, not the manufacturer?
Three to four parts Jura to one part Drambuie😊. A good rusty nail.
That's exactly the taste I get from Jura 10. Walnuts covered in butterscotch.
I'm mainly a bourbon drinker and for some reason Jura suits my palate.
About $27 here in the US,still a good buy.
Exactly what is wrong with the NASty malts. Quite possibly some really good barrels going into a 3 yo carrier spirit i dare to say.
That looks to be a candidate for the addition of a teaspoon of Ardbeg 10?
In Poland, a red label Johnnie costs around 8-9 pounds. On the other hand, the Jura starts at 23 pounds. How come JWRL is so expensive out there?
. . . TAX, and lots of it.
Can't stand it - I can't buy Whisky with 40 percent ABV, just disappointed with a Staoisha 😞 And I can't buy colored ones anymore, even if that means, I can't buy some beloved OB's and have to buy IB's 😢😊😁
Nope. My live/liver is too short for bad alcohol. And here everything sounds wrong: Cheap, 40%, chill filtered, color, Jura. 😂
By the way: 19y old The Paps isn't that bad.
Jura is one of my favorite distilleries ❤
I can buy a 75cl 9 year old Knob Creek Bourbon bottled 50% for $22. For a fine Scotch, I would rather pay $55 for a 13 year old Craigellachie! BTW, inflation is a problem here too, but the interest rate on my mortgage was set a few years and has not changed!
Picked up a bottle this morning for £20 for all the same reasons as yourself.
I visited Jura distillery recently and had the privilege to taste a 33yr old drawn straight from the barrel and it was exceptional! My only regret is that I’ll never be able to afford a bottle of it
America, the greatest country in the history of the world! American exceptionalism!
Grabbed a Jura rum cask and pale cask recently both on offer for £25 can't let them go at that price 👍
P.s keep an eye out for ones that have holiday offers that have run out I got 4 bottles of Jura for £15 each in the past.
I have enjoyed the rum cask through summer.
Sure it isn’t very complex, but it’s perfectly good for the money. I get it for 25 on special offer too.
Really can’t complain.
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Yeah for £30 you can get a non chill filtered 46 percent Deanston virgin oak and ive not saw a better value un chill filtered malt than that .
Interested to hear about Jura! There is loads of the stuff out there but seems to have a poor reputation 😕
Ralfy, are there any more bourbon reviews on the way?
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Im going to give this a go
I had a bottle of Jura 10 several months ago, largely because of the low price ($40 in OR, USA.) That's about as cheap as a single malt whisky can be found here. I was profoundly disappointed. It was flat, unidimensional and generally lacking any character. I still have a bit left, and I'll probably use it for a toddy this winter. By contrast, the Tomatin 12 at $42 was quite decent.
BTW, adjustable rate mortgages (ARMs) are of the devil. They get people to invest in properties that are just barely affordable, and when interest goes up, the owners are out on the street, either dispossessed entirely or forced to sell at a depressed rate. ARMs are predatory and exploitive, and they ought to be banned. JMHO.
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If they can add Caramel, do distilleries offer a "salted caramel" to give it a maritime note? OK, only joking......
The Jura 21 is quite nice but much more expensive!
Any Juror offered a bottle of Jura would be happy with a charge of £22.
Oh Jura- a malt I’ll always avoid unless indie bottled, the recent Whisky Sponge was (as ever) expensive but good Jura
Interesting option. However, now that I have more experience I think I would drink less before I would choose a cheap "non-integrity" whisky like Jura.
That bottle would be about $50 Aust dollars, we pay twice that price for single malts 😏
Could someone explain to me what independent bottling means please. I’ve been drinking malts for many years, but i need educating. Thank you for any replies.
. . . bottled by a whisky seller, who did NOT make the product.
Thank you ralfy for your reply. I’m still confused. If you didn’t make the product, how do you get to bottle it?
@@SquirrelRIP Because the independent bottler has purchased a cask or more from the actual distillery.
@@scrimmy45 Thank you, this makes sense. They can buy a cask and not chill filter it or add caramel etc.
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Jura isn't too bad for the price. I would like to see an integrity bottling at 12 years old.
Hi Ralfy, don't like any of the Juras since they relaunched them 2-3years back. Everyone is peaty. They were never like that before. Very disappointing.
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Patterson ( him of the "Flavouring n caramel of Dalmore ) has ruined Jura...
Long gone are the day's of Superstition
Malt mention: Multi maturation mess makers. (by Tilman Rrrademacherrr, Gerrrmany - so, in case you choose it: pronounce it with a Scottish accent, please ;-)
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Hey Ralfy: just to raise-6 commercials during this vlog, are you aware?
. . . 6 is too many, thanks for letting me know. I will sort it out.
It's fine if you have a friend that drinks it on the rocks.
What supermarket was it ?
The Co-op
Why are there ads in your video now...
. . . just testing ! not really working very well.
£37 pounds in sainsburys at the moment
i know what you mean ralfy