History of the Pamirs!!! One of the earliest descriptions of the Pamirs can be found in the diaries of the Chinese Xuan-Tsang, who passed through it as a Buddhist pilgrim in the summer of 642. But Europe learned about the existence of the Pamirs much later - in the 13th century, after the publication of the diaries of the Venetian Marco Polo, who visited it in 1270, traveling along the Silk Road with other merchants. His memories seemed so incredible that they were questioned for a long time. And only now can one be surprised with what amazing accuracy he described everything that he saw. The very interpretation of the word “Pamir” still causes numerous disputes: some believe that it came from the abbreviation of the words “upa-Meru”, that is, “the country above Meru”, the divine mountain of the Indians, the habitat of the god Shiva, denoting the center of the Universe (it mentioned in the Indian poem "Mahabharata", 6th century BC); others from “Poi Mehr”, which means “foot of the sun”; the third - from the Chinese “Po-mi-lo”, that is, “land of the rising sun”. But recent historical and linguistic studies are inclined to believe that the word “Pamir” should be translated as “Country of the Aryans” (as well as Iran and Kashmir). In the legends of the Iranians, this is the legendary country of Aryana-Vaija, at the source of the Oxus (Amu Darya), from where Zarathustra came and from where they began their settlement throughout Western Asia in ancient times. In the Indian tradition, this is the mystical center of the universe, where the earth connects with the sky, the source of knowledge and world order. According to legend, a person burdened with sins does not dare to approach him, and a righteous person who sets foot on this earth never returns back. The Pamirs have long attracted the attention of scientists, but many of the secrets of its history have remained unrevealed. Despite the fact that for a long time small groups of related tribes from neighboring territories penetrated into the Pamirs, over the past centuries little has changed in the material culture, social structure and folk beliefs of the local residents.The closeness and unity of the ancestors of various Indo-Iranian tribes is evidenced by their common self-name It was widely known both from the most ancient Iranian and Indian texts, and from other sources. The modern comes from the same name - from the ancient Iranian (Country of the Aryans); Indian (Country of the Aryans) - Northern India or part of it with its center in the interfluve of Jammu and Ganges t i.e. one of the oldest Aryan centers in India) Avestan (Aryan expanse) - the legendary homeland of the Iranians; names of a number of Iranian tribes of fiery groups: the Median tribe of the Aryans (tribe of the Aryans), the Sarmatian tribe of the Aryans, the tribal union of the Alans (as well as the self-name of the Ossetians in their Nart epic - allon - from the ancient Iranian Aryan and shugni (shugni) Pamir tribal union, etc.History of the Pamirs!!! -Part 2. Due to its inaccessibility, the Pamirs have preserved not only ancient Aryan beliefs and way of life, but also a dozen relict East Iranian languages, the ancient Persian language - originating from ancient Aryan dialects (they were aptly defined at the beginning of the 20th century by the largest scientist from St. Petersburg, linguist and philologist Professor I .I. Zarubin as a “tangle of languages”) The Pamir languages include: 1) the Shugnan-Rushan language group, including: Shugnan with the Badzhuv subdialect, Rushan with the Khuf subdialect, Bartang and Roshorv, 2) Yazgulyam language, 3) Wakhan language, 4) Ishkashim language, 5) Munjan language, 6) Sanglich language, as well as recently extinct languages: 7) Sargulyam and 8) Old Vanj. Along with these languages, the so-called Inter-Pamir Farsi is also widespread in the Pamirs (this term was introduced into scientific use by I.I. Zarubin and his student A.Z. Rosenfeld), which serves for communication between all nationalities. Religious rituals and folklore works are performed on it, poetry is written, rock inscriptions and epitaphs are created. Based on historical and linguistic research, many of the largest Indologists and Iranianists of the past were inclined to consider the Pamirs as the cradle of all Indo-European peoples. Starting from ancient times, the Aryan tribes, exploring new territories, settled in several migration waves and were in close contact with each other for a long time, finally dividing only towards the end of the 3rd millennium BC. e. on Indo-Iranians and ancient Europeans. Naturally, contacts between them occurred later, in the form of constant migrations of individual tribes. By the middle of the 2nd millennium BC. e. The Aryans are already invading much of Greece, Iran and India. Moving through the mountainous territories of the Pamirs and Hindu Kush, many nomads settled down, adopting the related culture of the local people who had lived here since Neolithic times and whose early migrations may have formed the first centers of Indo-European civilization. Their primitive - natural and harsh, but at the same time fair life, personified their own past for passing peoples.
Thank you all for organizing such discussions about problems difficulties and reppressions torture that pamiri indigenous people of Gorno Badakhshan facing. As a result of attack of armed forces of Internal Sevices GKNB(KGB) and ministry of deffence forces with use of helicopters tanks of tajikistan against unarmed pamiri population dozens were killed more than 200 people in jailed tortured and almost every house in Vamar and Khorogh was robbed by Tajik Rajhmonov forces. All civil activists pamiri liders in Tajikistan and Russia with help of Russia FSB were kidnapped and brought to Tajikistan( most of these activist in Russia were Russia citizens) where they were tortured in jailed and imprisoned for 30 years or more each. Their were accused guilty for speaking truth or clicking like in facebook in some comments where someone was criticizing some government actions.
Expressing my deep gratitude to all experts highlighting and developing the maintenance of the ongoing genocide and systematic torture against Pamiris by Rakhmon"s authoritarian regime. Hopefully, the world community and powerful nations will keep an eye on it due to tackle the crime against the Pamiri minority. Verodarat yakhzinen, our most powerful weapon is education and knowledge! Justice will prevail!
Thank you for your attention to our trouble!!! Unfortunately, in the 21st century in Tajikistan, all those who demand their elementary human rights be observed need support and, most importantly, protection. The current government does not want to see and hear the demands of the people. On the contrary, repressions against ethnic Pamirs continue!
Thanks a lot for all the penalists. Indeed a great resource for all that will be looking into the rights of Pamiri minorities for their research, studies, advocacy and investigation. Russian devision of Voice of America just covered your event by the way. I don't think i can post a link here but the title is: Таджикистан: атмосфера страха и репрессий. Its almost impossible for a minority of such a small size to be heard in a world filled with information about other relevant international matters so we can't thank you enough for raising awareness about the crimes against humanity taking currently place in GBAO, Tajikistan.
The Aga Khan sold out the Pamiris. There was a succession movement: Aga Khan wanted his own country in GBAO. He is giving up on that pipe dream. Now, his priority is his expanding his bank (Habib Bank) in China and keeping Russian oligarch money flowing into his resort in Sardinia. The Pamiris have suffered because they are loyal to this foreign leader who does not care about them in the least. Bruce is right - stop the flow of foreign aid - but for the wrong reasons. Pamiri loyalty to Aga Khan is because of the aid they receive from Aga Khan Development Network and Aga Khan Foundation and that divided loyalty is what Rahmon fears. Cut off the aid and Pamiris will develop internal leadership and an independent cultural identity - rather than being an overlooked part of the multi-ethnic Ismaili "community" (which, let's be honest, is a personality cult that worships and enrichs Aga Khan himself)
Aga Khan IV is our spiritual leader, our Imam, and we are loyal to him for centuries. And it is not the case that government will prosecut us. It is not normal be prosecutes because of your faith or/and religon.
@@andrzejnowicki6733 The Tajik government is persecuting the Pamiris and has been for decades, which just shows how useless the "Master of the Age", the "Manifestation of God", the "King of Kings", the Aga Khan is. Aga Khan does not care about the Pamiris, he cares about his own personal wealth and power. He is no spiritual leader, he is an unprincipled, materialistic villain. Aga Khan IV is a con man who has exploited the Pamiris as well as other Ismailis for his own personal benefit. His claim of being descended from Muhammad is a lie - Aga Khan I was an imposter installed by the British courts in India. Based on that authority, he has collected tens of billions of dollars from some of the poorest people in the world and used it to fund his unbelievably lavish and licentious lifestyle. Most shockingly, Karim Aga Khan abuses charity. He has cultivated a stellar reputation as a philanthropist by giving away other people's money. He collects donations from his followers, grants from other charities and foreign aid from government, and then takes all the credit. Sometimes he even skims off the top, diverting funds allocated for charity (Aga Khan Foundation) to support his for-profit ventures (Aga Khan Fund for Economic Development). It is, unfortunately very common for people to be persecuted for their religion, but even more common is for them to be exploited by religion. Such is the case here. Karim "Aga Khan" has taken advantage of the Pamiris. He is not invested in their safety, security and well-being. He would prefer them to be in perpetual peril so that foreign aid money keeps flowing to his organization. Cut of the funds and Aga Khan's interest in the situation will disappear. Cut off the aid and Pamiris will develop internal leadership and an independent cultural identity. Only then will they be able to defend themselves from being persecuted (which you will find is not really about their religion, but their ethnicity).
@@necspenecmetu3 thank you very much for answer. as far as i understood, you are going to explain us what is right and what is wron))). We are Ismaili and Aga Khan IV is our spiritual Leader. And we belive in what we belive! We don't need you to tell us how bad is our Imam and etc., we know who is who, what is right and what is wrong. we have the right to make our own choice and to live the way how we want. Historically we are pamirian and Ismaily, and for this reson we were presecuted and tortured for centuries. once again, thank you for sharing your view on our faith, religion leader and ethnacity, but we don't need it, please don't bother you by explaining us that we are wrong))). we have no busnies to you and to your faith, we respect other religon and people of other faith and mazhabs. the same we want for us, simple being trieted as human and respected.
@@andrzejnowicki6733 You misunderstand me my friend. I was also brought up in this personality cult and indoctrinated to believe what you believe - that Karim a-Husayni is a spiritual leader, an Imam, etc. Like you, at the behest of the Aga Khan, I was also taught a false version of history - the purpose of which was to keep me ignorant of Karim Aga Khan's frauds, make me loyal to him personally and ignore the truth when it was presented to me. Truth is independent of respect, you have the right to believe what you want, regardless of whether it is true. I have the right to call out con men like Karim Aga Khan, regardless of whether that offends you. Karim Aga Khan does not respect you. He infantilizes you (calling you his spiritual children), he condescends, he considers you his slaves and his servants. He puts himself on a pedestal, wrongly calls himself a Prince, a King, a Shah, a God. He has no respect for you. He cares only for your money. Humanity, equality, democracy, progress - these are antithetical to Aga Khan - a man who believes his birthright is to rule, his purpose is to lead and yours is simply to obey and follow. To follow Karim is to be led astray. Hopefully someday the Pamiris wake up to this truth.
@@necspenecmetu3 i got your point. We are where we are, and we know what is going on toward Pamiri and Ismaili. The only thing i wish you may Allah bless you!
History of the Pamirs!!! One of the earliest descriptions of the Pamirs can be found in the diaries of the Chinese Xuan-Tsang, who passed through it as a Buddhist pilgrim in the summer of 642. But Europe learned about the existence of the Pamirs much later - in the 13th century, after the publication of the diaries of the Venetian Marco Polo, who visited it in 1270, traveling along the Silk Road with other merchants. His memories seemed so incredible that they were questioned for a long time. And only now can one be surprised with what amazing accuracy he described everything that he saw. The very interpretation of the word “Pamir” still causes numerous disputes: some believe that it came from the abbreviation of the words “upa-Meru”, that is, “the country above Meru”, the divine mountain of the Indians, the habitat of the god Shiva, denoting the center of the Universe (it mentioned in the Indian poem "Mahabharata", 6th century BC); others from “Poi Mehr”, which means “foot of the sun”; the third - from the Chinese “Po-mi-lo”, that is, “land of the rising sun”. But recent historical and linguistic studies are inclined to believe that the word “Pamir” should be translated as “Country of the Aryans” (as well as Iran and Kashmir). In the legends of the Iranians, this is the legendary country of Aryana-Vaija, at the source of the Oxus (Amu Darya), from where Zarathustra came and from where they began their settlement throughout Western Asia in ancient times. In the Indian tradition, this is the mystical center of the universe, where the earth connects with the sky, the source of knowledge and world order. According to legend, a person burdened with sins does not dare to approach him, and a righteous person who sets foot on this earth never returns back. The Pamirs have long attracted the attention of scientists, but many of the secrets of its history have remained unrevealed. Despite the fact that for a long time small groups of related tribes from neighboring territories penetrated into the Pamirs, over the past centuries little has changed in the material culture, social structure and folk beliefs of the local residents.The closeness and unity of the ancestors of various Indo-Iranian tribes is evidenced by their common self-name It was widely known both from the most ancient Iranian and Indian texts, and from other sources. The modern comes from the same name - from the ancient Iranian (Country of the Aryans); Indian (Country of the Aryans) - Northern India or part of it with its center in the interfluve of Jammu and Ganges t i.e. one of the oldest Aryan centers in India) Avestan (Aryan expanse) - the legendary homeland of the Iranians; names of a number of Iranian tribes of fiery groups: the Median tribe of the Aryans (tribe of the Aryans), the Sarmatian tribe of the Aryans, the tribal union of the Alans (as well as the self-name of the Ossetians in their Nart epic - allon - from the ancient Iranian Aryan and shugni (shugni) Pamir tribal union, etc.History of the Pamirs!!! -Part 2. Due to its inaccessibility, the Pamirs have preserved not only ancient Aryan beliefs and way of life, but also a dozen relict East Iranian languages, the ancient Persian language - originating from ancient Aryan dialects (they were aptly defined at the beginning of the 20th century by the largest scientist from St. Petersburg, linguist and philologist Professor I .I. Zarubin as a “tangle of languages”) The Pamir languages include: 1) the Shugnan-Rushan language group, including: Shugnan with the Badzhuv subdialect, Rushan with the Khuf subdialect, Bartang and Roshorv, 2) Yazgulyam language, 3) Wakhan language, 4) Ishkashim language, 5) Munjan language, 6) Sanglich language, as well as recently extinct languages: 7) Sargulyam and 8) Old Vanj. Along with these languages, the so-called Inter-Pamir Farsi is also widespread in the Pamirs (this term was introduced into scientific use by I.I. Zarubin and his student A.Z. Rosenfeld), which serves for communication between all nationalities. Religious rituals and folklore works are performed on it, poetry is written, rock inscriptions and epitaphs are created. Based on historical and linguistic research, many of the largest Indologists and Iranianists of the past were inclined to consider the Pamirs as the cradle of all Indo-European peoples. Starting from ancient times, the Aryan tribes, exploring new territories, settled in several migration waves and were in close contact with each other for a long time, finally dividing only towards the end of the 3rd millennium BC. e. on Indo-Iranians and ancient Europeans. Naturally, contacts between them occurred later, in the form of constant migrations of individual tribes. By the middle of the 2nd millennium BC. e. The Aryans are already invading much of Greece, Iran and India. Moving through the mountainous territories of the Pamirs and Hindu Kush, many nomads settled down, adopting the related culture of the local people who had lived here since Neolithic times and whose early migrations may have formed the first centers of Indo-European civilization. Their primitive - natural and harsh, but at the same time fair life, personified their own past for passing peoples.
Thank you all for organizing such discussions about problems difficulties and reppressions torture that pamiri indigenous people of Gorno Badakhshan facing. As a result of attack of armed forces of Internal Sevices GKNB(KGB) and ministry of deffence forces with use of helicopters tanks of tajikistan against unarmed pamiri population dozens were killed more than 200 people in jailed tortured and almost every house in Vamar and Khorogh was robbed by Tajik Rajhmonov forces. All civil activists pamiri liders in Tajikistan and Russia with help of Russia FSB were kidnapped and brought to Tajikistan( most of these activist in Russia were Russia citizens) where they were tortured in jailed and imprisoned for 30 years or more each. Their were accused guilty for speaking truth or clicking like in facebook in some comments where someone was criticizing some government actions.
Expressing my deep gratitude to all experts highlighting and developing the maintenance of the ongoing genocide and systematic torture against Pamiris by Rakhmon"s authoritarian regime. Hopefully, the world community and powerful nations will keep an eye on it due to tackle the crime against the Pamiri minority. Verodarat yakhzinen, our most powerful weapon is education and knowledge! Justice will prevail!
thank you for clear explanation of Pamiris repression by Tajik Government
Thank you for your attention to our trouble!!!
Unfortunately, in the 21st century in Tajikistan, all those who demand their elementary human rights be observed need support and, most importantly, protection. The current government does not want to see and hear the demands of the people. On the contrary, repressions against ethnic Pamirs continue!
Thanks a lot for all the penalists. Indeed a great resource for all that will be looking into the rights of Pamiri minorities for their research, studies, advocacy and investigation. Russian devision of Voice of America just covered your event by the way. I don't think i can post a link here but the title is: Таджикистан: атмосфера страха и репрессий.
Its almost impossible for a minority of such a small size to be heard in a world filled with information about other relevant international matters so we can't thank you enough for raising awareness about the crimes against humanity taking currently place in GBAO, Tajikistan.
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The Aga Khan sold out the Pamiris. There was a succession movement: Aga Khan wanted his own country in GBAO. He is giving up on that pipe dream. Now, his priority is his expanding his bank (Habib Bank) in China and keeping Russian oligarch money flowing into his resort in Sardinia. The Pamiris have suffered because they are loyal to this foreign leader who does not care about them in the least. Bruce is right - stop the flow of foreign aid - but for the wrong reasons. Pamiri loyalty to Aga Khan is because of the aid they receive from Aga Khan Development Network and Aga Khan Foundation and that divided loyalty is what Rahmon fears. Cut off the aid and Pamiris will develop internal leadership and an independent cultural identity - rather than being an overlooked part of the multi-ethnic Ismaili "community" (which, let's be honest, is a personality cult that worships and enrichs Aga Khan himself)
Aga Khan IV is our spiritual leader, our Imam, and we are loyal to him for centuries. And it is not the case that government will prosecut us. It is not normal be prosecutes because of your faith or/and religon.
@@andrzejnowicki6733 The Tajik government is persecuting the Pamiris and has been for decades, which just shows how useless the "Master of the Age", the "Manifestation of God", the "King of Kings", the Aga Khan is. Aga Khan does not care about the Pamiris, he cares about his own personal wealth and power. He is no spiritual leader, he is an unprincipled, materialistic villain.
Aga Khan IV is a con man who has exploited the Pamiris as well as other Ismailis for his own personal benefit. His claim of being descended from Muhammad is a lie - Aga Khan I was an imposter installed by the British courts in India. Based on that authority, he has collected tens of billions of dollars from some of the poorest people in the world and used it to fund his unbelievably lavish and licentious lifestyle.
Most shockingly, Karim Aga Khan abuses charity. He has cultivated a stellar reputation as a philanthropist by giving away other people's money. He collects donations from his followers, grants from other charities and foreign aid from government, and then takes all the credit. Sometimes he even skims off the top, diverting funds allocated for charity (Aga Khan Foundation) to support his for-profit ventures (Aga Khan Fund for Economic Development).
It is, unfortunately very common for people to be persecuted for their religion, but even more common is for them to be exploited by religion. Such is the case here. Karim "Aga Khan" has taken advantage of the Pamiris. He is not invested in their safety, security and well-being. He would prefer them to be in perpetual peril so that foreign aid money keeps flowing to his organization. Cut of the funds and Aga Khan's interest in the situation will disappear. Cut off the aid and Pamiris will develop internal leadership and an independent cultural identity. Only then will they be able to defend themselves from being persecuted (which you will find is not really about their religion, but their ethnicity).
@@necspenecmetu3 thank you very much for answer. as far as i understood, you are going to explain us what is right and what is wron))). We are Ismaili and Aga Khan IV is our spiritual Leader. And we belive in what we belive! We don't need you to tell us how bad is our Imam and etc., we know who is who, what is right and what is wrong. we have the right to make our own choice and to live the way how we want. Historically we are pamirian and Ismaily, and for this reson we were presecuted and tortured for centuries. once again, thank you for sharing your view on our faith, religion leader and ethnacity, but we don't need it, please don't bother you by explaining us that we are wrong))). we have no busnies to you and to your faith, we respect other religon and people of other faith and mazhabs. the same we want for us, simple being trieted as human and respected.
@@andrzejnowicki6733 You misunderstand me my friend. I was also brought up in this personality cult and indoctrinated to believe what you believe - that Karim a-Husayni is a spiritual leader, an Imam, etc. Like you, at the behest of the Aga Khan, I was also taught a false version of history - the purpose of which was to keep me ignorant of Karim Aga Khan's frauds, make me loyal to him personally and ignore the truth when it was presented to me.
Truth is independent of respect, you have the right to believe what you want, regardless of whether it is true. I have the right to call out con men like Karim Aga Khan, regardless of whether that offends you.
Karim Aga Khan does not respect you. He infantilizes you (calling you his spiritual children), he condescends, he considers you his slaves and his servants. He puts himself on a pedestal, wrongly calls himself a Prince, a King, a Shah, a God. He has no respect for you. He cares only for your money.
Humanity, equality, democracy, progress - these are antithetical to Aga Khan - a man who believes his birthright is to rule, his purpose is to lead and yours is simply to obey and follow. To follow Karim is to be led astray. Hopefully someday the Pamiris wake up to this truth.
@@necspenecmetu3 i got your point. We are where we are, and we know what is going on toward Pamiri and Ismaili. The only thing i wish you may Allah bless you!
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