DBrand Darkplates + SSD WITHOUT M 2 Cover PS5 Heatsink Temperature Tests
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- Опубликовано: 16 июн 2024
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Video Chapters
00:00 - The Start (duh!)
00:40 - What is the point of the PS5 M.2 SSD Expansion Cover Plate
01:50 - The PS5, the SSD, Heat and Why this is a BIG Deal
03:00 - What Sony Say about using the SSD expansion M.2 Cover Plate?
03:50 - How the dBrand Darkplate Can Potential Change the PS5 SSD Cooling for Good/Bad?
05:00 - The Test Setup on the PS5 Temperature Testing
07:25 - Heavy Write Testing
08:55 - Far Cry 6 Gameplay Tests
10:25 - Demon Souls Gameplay Tests
11:55 - Heavy Read Testing
13:25 - Conclusion & Verdict on the dBrand Plates and whether you should use the M.2 SSD cover plate
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Love all these videos but the only thing that always bothers me is how your graphs aren't ever in the same format so it makes discerning the differences in data so much harder. I know it really doesn't matter much because you're not some scientific researcher but it's just a personal pet peeve for me when graph comparisons are not using the same graph layout for each item. Still though keep up the good work
This is a very valid and excellent critique. In order to compare data you should always use the same format of figure, when comparing the same figure type. Something certainly that the video creator here could take note of.
Thank you so much for this video. I’ve been waiting and so curious about this. I appreciate your work
One aspect that's left out of equation (apart from slightly lower temperatures) is that if you don't install the metal cover, the area is prone to dust accumulation given its location...
I totally agree
I’ll need to check on mine every month
Very rare dust breaks systems unless extreme build up happens
A little compressed air every ~6 months goes a long way to keeping dust bunnies at bay 🫡
Great video, I would recommend stating the percent differences of starting and ending temps rather than just the overall increase. It better represents the data since they do generally have differing starting points. Just a thought. Thanks for doing these tests
Great that you made this video! Exactly what I was wondering about.
Great video. I can't wait for the test with the sabrent. Great video as usual. Enjoy the rest of your weekend. Much love and light my brother
Thanks for doing this, great video. I’d be interested to know your account of how the darkplates effect cpu/gpu temps too.
A test I was thinking about conducting with the exact same ssd you have was to put a thermal pad between the top of the heat sink and that metal cover. Theory is simple, Air flows over plate which cools plate and that plate is sucking heat off the heat sink and therefore helps remove heat from the heat sink into the air headed for the CPU cooler.
Very informative.
I have an idea for another video in this series. Doing a comparison between the Darkplates with and without the fan grill filter. Since they are removable for cleaning why not test to see how much better the temps are without the the filters installed.
P.s. - Can I ask if you're abandoned the Elecgear altogether? I got the feeling that one was the ultimate heatsink, and right now it costs only an extra £10, even if it's only a few degrees cooler. I wonder if the extra surface will provide even more cooling with the Darkplates.
Awesome vid. My exact setup. Now a question elecgear make a replacement plate with vents in it does it work? And is there a heatsink cover that also works with the firecuda w/heatsink that fit?
Great job! Do you believe the different ps5 fans affect the system differently? Or it's an insignificant difference
thank you very much for this detailed video! Metal plate stays off now :)
Great video, always good information from your channel.
I'm going to buy the Seagate Firecuda 530 2 TB, due to the reviews I saw on the channel,.
what will be the best option? Seagate 530 with heatsink included, or Seagate 530 plus Sabrent heatsink? Thanks
If you want the lowest temperatures Firecuda 530 2to naked + heatsink elecgear this is what I have
I tested a lot of original SSDs and SSDs and third party heatsink is what it does "best" But quite frankly,
my brother has the Firecuda with stock heatsink there is not 2 worlds of difference via what I have..
he will never have a problem 👍
I still have the sabrent here which is great too ...
You are spoiled for choice..
Don't get too caught up in those few degrees less, all 3 of these are great and guaranteed to be a long term worry free experience.
Thoughts on the GRAUGEAR Metal Heat Dissipation Cover?
hi.. waht if you use a heatsink ssd and put the stock ssd slot cover plate with an thermalpad on the ssd? :)
how do the D-Brand perform with the Elecgear SSD heatsink please?
I'd like to see what the internals of the PS5 (APU) temperatures are.
Would love to see you repeat the test with a thermal pad between the plate and the heat sink.
Or even better id you soldered a u shaped heat pipe to the metal plate and then removed the heatsink and put the other half of the heat pipe right on a thermal pad on the ssd directly. Would removing more heat that you would be sending to the cpu cause cpu over heating? Would it even matter to the CPU? I would be curious to see where this little rabbit hole goes to.
I run the wd black sn850 with its factory heatsink. It's clearly a drive that gets warmer than other's. My PS5 is a launch model so no warranty at this point, should I concearn my self with the negative pressure with the m.2 cover being on? Or should I leave it off to keep the ssd cooler, it is a replacable part and has a 5 year warranty. I'm just on the fence about it, on or off? With it off it actually is cool to see it glowing its led in the PS5 but I want to preserve my PS5 over the replaceable ssd in the m.2 slot. Please share your thoughts thank you.
I highly doubt you'll see this comment, but I've seen some metal plates with a mesh screen to supposedly promote better cooling for the m2 SSD. Do you have any idea if this is true or not or am I better off keeping the solid metal cover the PS5 uses?
add vent hole above ssd ? would that help also or would that effect air flow?
When using the firecuda 530 with ek heatsink is there a ssd cover plate that would fit to help keep cooler for people wanting to keep cover plate on for dust issues?
Can you test Kingston KC3000 1GB? Its very interesting drive, its like overclocked Firecuda 530 with different SLC cache
For those saying the SSD will probably melt the PS5 plates with SSD cover off, the PS5 plates are most likely HDPE. In these tests, the hottest avg temp of the SSD was 50°C. Melting point of HDPE is 125°C. If the temperature exceeds 70°C, the SSD would fail to operate and reach the end of product life.
Could drilling small holes in the plate help???
My guy is a pro at removing the PS5 plates at this point. Lol.
Love the content btw.
Hello from france good testing...
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It seem that with panel and plate on. From Rest/On straight to a game. Over a possible 2-4 hours of game play. Your temp range will could be 21°-26°C.
My English is not good, so, which is better? With or without the M.2 cover?
Sony official tone is to use with the m2 cover plate ?
I somewhere heard that the only reason Sony recommends using the M.2 cover is because of potential dust buildup in the slot since it's directly located besides the fan. Don't know how bad it could get if you leave it without the cover for a year or more.
just clean it every 4-6 month.
Maybe that's true but dust very rarely damages this stuff. Extremely rare
Naturally, the SSD no need the cover as it should be when it attached on desktop mainboard
It’s been two years. Are you still running without the cover? I’m looking to upgrade. 😅
you don't measure the direct temperature of any modules, you measure the ambient temperature between the plastics. Try a Sabrent M.2 heatsink it uses both the original "negative pressure" BS AND creates a heat sink that takes up the entire cover door. its basically a replacement cover door
Over 15 minutes and not one mention of how to avoid dust in the SSD compartment?
Very rare dust damages this stuff. Takes a extremely long time
If I can get more longevity out of my ssd then it worth having a little more heat for life gain on the ssd.
I have the Dark Plates 2.0 and I also have installed a WD Black 2TB SSD with Heatsink but i have the SSD cover on. Should i be okay?
is this guy good or what? i was dying to know if the vent in the d-plate makes a difference. i was wondering if the vent affects the airflow in a bad way. there's a mod for the ps4 where someone does the same thing by cutting a hole in the cover over the fan.
Yeah i thought the vents would be bad because it takes away the airflow that glides over the SSD to keep it cool
Without the cover it can gather dust over time though. Is that more dangerous for an ssd designed to be in a enclosed pc compared to other electronics in general?
Use one of ps5 design cover heatsink best of both worlds .
@@tonylanclos3756 I don't think a double heatsink would work because the ps5 designed heatsinks are made for bare cards. It would just damage the ssd with the amount of pressure it puts on it
He's not saying to use both.
Just use a robovac then you will get no dust, My pc is clean even after 2 years of use
can you lay thar darkplated PS5 horizontally with the original stand ?
What if i have the sabrent heat sync?
Do the screens keep the PS5 cleaner from dust?
So it's best to take off the metal cover with the factory plates on? So Sony is wrong telling us to keep the metal plate on 🤔
your ssd will last less with cover on duo to high temperature.
@@darkslaerdark That's BS, unless you CONSTANTLY clean inside your PS5 especially in the SSD slot to remove dust. If you don't the dust build up will kill your SSD and it's temp quicker than leaving it off. The plate protects from dust and makes the whole PS5 less hot, even though the SSD will be hotter.
@@dundalisdust your house and change the filter in your furnace
Whare did you get that little ps sticker that's right upbove the usb port?
ETSY search PS5 vinyl logo
i ve got samsung 980 pro with normal heat sink :with or without cover ?
Hardware Busters had the same conclusion after the measurements - it seemed to be better without that stock metal plate. Maybe it was an oversight by Sony.
Or, maybe Sony didn't want dust building up on the M.2 drive over time. Engineers tend to have reasons for these things.
Can you put the sabrent plate over the Firecuda and use some of the best thermal paste between them?
Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut
U dont need thermal paste applied to the ssd the sabrent is all u need
@@WavyVaporizers look at the differnt types of thermal paste some get down to 33c on full load
@@TheOfficialChannelOfChannels I know thermal paste works. I was just saying that with the ps5 and a 1 sided ssd u only need the sabrent heatsink that's it. Now if u have a double sided ssd then that's a completely different story.
Umm, no. The Sabrent is designed to be used by itself. It would absolutely not work with another heatsink on the ssd
The problem with this test is there are two tests in one go. We can’t conclude what’s causing the temperature difference, is it the ssd cover or the plates…
Lol as I was typing this 16:08 confirmed! Thank you! Amazing videos!
I've just got an Elecgear heatsink. Any recommendations for an SSD to go with it?
Firecuda > wd and sabrent would be fairly equal. If 4tb is what you want firecuda and sabrent are your best choices. He tested one by Nextorage semi recently thats pretty impressive in only 1-2tb that would replace the current WD as a contender but its not offered in the US yet. I believe only Japan.
@@benlastname6667 thanks. I'm in the UK, and a 1tb will do for now. I'm more concerned about the variant of the SSD. As I have the Elecgear heatsink, can I buy a firecuda/WD black etc WITHOUT a heatsink attached?
@@LeeJoRo yes to any of the ones I mentioned. I have the firecuda 4tb with the elecgear and gelid upgraded thermal pads.
@@benlastname6667 4tb? Damn, that must have cost a ton. Future proofed though. Thanks (I've been looking at the firecudas for a while, just waiting for a price drop)
@@LeeJoRo I picked mine up for $918. Wasn't terrible. I looked at it as a long term investment because it has the best durability. I'll be keeping this system even after we've moved onto the ps6. The only way I'd ditch my current offering SSD is higher TB support like 6-8 and or decently faster read and write speeds with the same durability. I'll either be waiting 3-4 years or it'll never happen because it may never support higher TB drives. If the read and write speeds pick up decently in the future with firecuda or someome steps up to offer their durability and superior speeds I'll upgrade just for even faster loadings.
With all my ps4 and ps5 games currently I'm roughly at 2.7 tb already. I won't be able to hold everything with our new gen. I'll be deleting about a dozen or so ps4 physical games of my least played in the future from the drive. 😟
i think the metal plate keep the ssd from melting the plastic cover!
Do you really think Sony's engineers over looked the cooling characteristics of the M.2 bay? I would have second guess that argument. Btw the compartment does have openings for air to pass through which you could have put the probe wire through on tests where the probe is on the M.2, that top metal cover acts as magnetic shielding, and there are heat conductive strips of material along the top side perimeter of the bay to pass the transfer radiant heat from the M.2 drive building in the bay cover to the heatsink system inside the PS5.
Did you watch this video, or Any of the previous videos?
The numbers are staring you right in the face my guy.
These tests are not saying that the engineers at Sony overlooked anything. The tests are demonstrating ways to optimize the engineers design.
Exzactly what i was thinking, Sony made this, they make Quality Products
No, those are grounding pads, the cover is merely an RF shield to reduce EMI radiation/interference, those consumer electronic device needs to meet certain standard.
@@daijoubu4529ahh now this makes more sense than every other comment I've read on this issue. Thank u.
Cover don't make sense is probably just for design
Multimillion dollar company with top notch engineers working on the ps5 for years should know better than a random dude telling you otherwise
To be honest, NONE of my SSDs run that cool. None of my SSDs even start out that cool. I'm just talking about regular SATA SSDs and not M.2. My servers run pretty cool at around 30 to 35 degrees C. but my workstation's SSD gets up to sometimes 40 degrees. I've recently invested in some fans and I haven't seen it get that hot for awhile but I've never seen 21 and 22 degree temperatures on any of these SSDs.
I think that's above ambient. So if ambient is 20, when he shows 20 it means a total of 40 degrees.
Some company should make a really tiny liquid cooled mount for the ssd even if it pops out more tbey can give you a custom plate and it can be usb powered to run off the system itself
I think that would be unnecessary overkill and introduce the danger of leaking.
@@kevinmitchell766 they have ones that used a special Liquid that wont conduct electricity if spilled
@@TheOfficialChannelOfChannels I still think it's entirely unnecessary.
@@kevinmitchell766 id get it if i could run my 2tb Firecuda at the full 7300mb per second
@@TheOfficialChannelOfChannels it's not the heat keeping you from that right now, it's the ps5.
Why not test the original plates with no M.2 cover? Is this an advertisement for Darkplates?
One of the problems I have with "the Queen's English" (QE) is the tendency to not pronounce the last "R" in a word (or, "wood", in the QE). So when the presenter says, "The dock plates", is he saying "the dark plates" or "the dock plates"? Not being familiar with the equipment he's using, I don't know what they're called. Scottish people, who speak English (as opposed to the ones who don't) tend to pronounce all the r's in a word. American English speakers also tend to pronounce all the r's (unless they're putting on some phony affectation). So, we don't say, "bettah", we say, "better". Anyway, for the sake of clarity, it would be nice to hear the letters of a word pronounced in a technical presentation (except for the crazy words like night, thought, etc.)
You must be bored
@@phildavis8732 😂
Take off the plates off the ps5 and it will start to breathe better and u can play mordan warfare season 4
glad I didn’t buy hardware from copy cat company that has to with court lawyer.
A real bullshit these dbrand plates which brings strictly nothing!
I have always said so, Also, it's ugly, ridiculous.
Really though, you don't need a heatsink...
😂Sorry, I couldn't resist!
Though I would say that leaving the expansion bay open will lead to dust accumulates there. Especially in the hard to reach corners.
The best this would be if someone made an expansion bay cover made of dust filter with very tiny holes.
So you get the airflow and also protection from dust.
But one can only dream right?
Anyways great video!
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