What Size Aider Do I Need?
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- Опубликовано: 20 мар 2021
- One of the most frequent questions I get when people start looking to order a stick for one-sticking is "What distance should my steps be on my aider?" ... quickly followed up by "Should I get a two- or three-step aider?" In this video, I show you a few different sizes so you can get a feel of how they would work for YOU -- plus answer the question if a longer aider is really going to help once you start climbing. #saddlehunter #saddlehunting #onesticking
Outstanding set of videos lately. Just ordered my EWO ultimate one stick with the U.P. and the two step aider. Was going to get the three step aider. Realizing I can only reach so high, two step is all I need. Your videos helped out a ton. But I will say, the video of the decade was the booger retriever. It has been ordered. Keep up the great videos!
I really appreciate that; thanks for taking the time to write!
Awesome video! THIS information is exactly what I've been searching for! Thanks for putting this out there. 👍🏼
Great information! I was just considering airers for 1 sticking. Glad to see clearly that a 3 step aider isn't real helpful other than at ground level. Thanks!
Great, much needed video! Totally agree you can only teach what your arms length is. However, I just discovered a u tube video that shows putting on a "Tether Aider" onto your aider. This allows you to step up and put the one stick right under the tether (on the tree) this allowing you to increase your height by about 20" per move of your stick (after putting it on at base of tree) Thanks again!
Other than the first move, your total gain is determined by your body height vs the aider length (at least for the 2 or 3 step aider). However if you get a 3 step you can start a touch higher on the first move AND have closer (ie easier) spacing on your steps, which is real advantage of a 3 over a 2. Good vid. Maybe everyone will quit sweating this one so much.....nah, buckets will still flow! Ha! Ha! Ha!
With me just getting my climbing stick last week and practicing yesterday for the first time this was great to know because I got short steps on purpose and now I'm liking it even better.
Great video Gregg thanks for making it!
The advantage of the 3 step is that it puts that bottom step at an easy to reach level. It may make it easier for non-flexible people or when wearing very bulky pants
Yep.
Thanks for sharing. Again, sometimes Less is More 👍👍
Another great video. Solid demo right there!
Appreciate that man!!
I just timed myself on a tree with no limbs. I climbed 32ft in 4.2 minutes taking my time not rushing. I have 2 18” aiders and it’s perfect!
Awesome! Isn't it nice that we finally have warm weather moving in to most of the country and we can get out and practice? There's going to be a lot of deer regretting that this next year... :)
@@StaggsintheWild your kind of cold and my kinda cold are 2 different things here in NC 😀
Thank you for doing this!
Nice job. I am digging a 3 step aider.
I'm brand new to saddle hunting (diy, RCH + fleece setup), and in my limited experience so far, it seems like the step spacing is the most important factor. As you've pointed out, you can only reach so high. So after you start, it comes down to how high (comfortably, quietly) you can get your leg up, and in MI winters I am bundled in a coverall. Awesome video, thanks for putting out this content.
You nailed it! Thanks for the nice words
It seems to all be a function of how much rope you let out when when you prepare to reach down to grab your stick, that is where the couple inch difference stems.
Nailed it.
Makes me think a decent 2 step aider with a longer gear tie handle to reach down farther would be the ticket to optimize height per move.
Thank you for the detail, as always.
So it seems to me that the climber just needs to get the step they are comfortable with using. Getting some really long step or more steps is really only of value on the first climb, and even then it is limited by your reach.
Bingo!!
A 3 step aider is most effective on a stick set , no real advantage to a one stick set. Another reason I don’t one stick plus all the movement and noise it takes to get it done. Thanks for the demo Greg, it confirmed exactly what my concerns were.
No problem man... one thing I'd add -- and I'm NOT trying to sell anyone on this -- is from a NOISE level, don't take too much away from this video, as I was ABSOLUTELY not being careful in the least... far from it. I can climb up a tree while one-sticking as quietly as I can with a climber or with four sticks.
@@StaggsintheWild I figured that was the case. Thanks
I gain 6ft each stick move (MEASURED) USING 20 inch stick with single 20 inch aider. I am 5ft 8 in tall. You loose some heigth by placing stick under tether. Loose some heigth by staying low enough to reach stick when removing from tree.
100% agree. My main goal in making this video was to give people a frame of reference so they could figure out things for themselves ... obviously if people are taller, they’ll get more height then I do and vice versa. Similarly, if people push the stick higher by going around the tether as you mention, then you can gain a few inches that way as well.
This is super helpful man! I would love a 2 step aider, but being 6'4 I don't think it's as efficient as a 3 step would be. My first move on my sticks is usually around 8 feet.
What’s your aider step distance? I’m 6’4 as well bout to order a three step aider as well don’t want to have to stretch so far just three comfortable steps
@@bassamaticfpv4354 I went with 2 step 22" and its perfect. I believe this is also the same set up the owner (Dano) runs as well.
As I get more practiced climbing the tree, (am afraid of heights), I am more and more concerned about height. Ordered 4 24 inch Beast Sticks, had a difficult time making the steps, ( am 5' 10", 240 lbs,), trying to lose some weight, but still had a time getting that 22 inch step. bought some aluminun tubing, transferred all the Beast Stick hardware to make myself 20 inch sticks, 18 inch step. Added 4 cable aiders at 18 inch step. been practicing with that, in fact, when on my first saddle hunt Saturday, hunting hogs on public land, I quess my question is this: when I am in better shape, would it be advisable to switch everything back to the Beast 24 inch sticks, in order to gain the extra height. only gaining about 16 inches. what do you think?
Honestly I'd probably suggest selling the 24" Beast sticks and using that money to buy the Beast minis and using either a knaider or versa aider with them... Either one is SUPER simple to use and will make up any ground you lost and you won't be fishing for dangling aiders. My personal preference would be to use a knaider... it's a hook that straps to your lower leg around knee height, or slightly below -- about where your patella would be. You always know where your knee is, so it's easy to know where it is. And YOU set the height of the stick so you control how high you have to lift your knee to hook onto it. You can learn more about the concept in this video... ruclips.net/video/6esdzvAsHKc/видео.html
@@StaggsintheWild That is what I have with the square alum tubing, 20 inch Beast Sticks, The cable wire aiders don't sway at all, they are very solid as far as staying in place, I know that I should have ordered the 20 inch sticks, had to make my own. have seen the video of the knaider and swaider, don't know if I could master that yet. quess wanted confirmation that I did the right thing about getting the shorter sticks, I appreciate your response, keep the videos coming.
Good video. I hunted this past season with the Ultimate One-Stick with a 15- inch step from platform to double step and then two 18-inch steps on the aider. I am probably going to buy a second one-stick (since my daughter or her boyfriend often join me and I loan them equipment). So I am thinking of what changes I want to make in this second Ultimate One-Stick when I purchase it, specifically changes in length of one stick (current is 15") and length and number of steps in aider (current is two steps and 18"). In this you discussed number of steps in aider. I am also interested in why you prefer a 12" stick over a longer stick. I can't remember if you have discussed that (why you chose 12" stick) yet.
I have a video coming on why I like the 12” stick … will be comparing it side by side with a 15” and 18” stick 👍
@@StaggsintheWild I am looking forward to that video.
I haven't tried one sticking yet, but hope to soon. My thought when considering a 2 or 3 step aider was partially about how easy it is to get onto the aider after a move. I was thinking 3 step would be easier because it would hang lower. Can you comment on if there is a difference for that aspect? Thanks.
The three-step aider would definitely end up down where you’re hanging and be easy to get to, but I’ve never had a problem with getting my foot in the lower step after making a move; even the two-step aiders are long enough that when I reach as high as I can they’re still hanging low enough to facilitate an easy first step in that regard.
Try this instead. Swing off to side just a little, just enough to allow you to get your stick and move it straight up. Then instead of putting stick under rope you'll move stick up to just under girth hitch. Attach stick and set it. Get foot in aider and swing to front of stick and climb. You'll gain more than you think with each move.
I feel a two step it plenty, anything more is overkill as your limited by your reach while hanging in the saddle
Agreed!
This is clutch
I don't know what to decide on. I will be getting a 12" one stick with the bottom platform. my problem is I don't have very high step even with light clothes on. 15" is probably max for me i dont know if I should get a 3 or 4 step aider at 12" or 15" step to step i want be comfortable when I'm going up the aider. any suggestions?
If a 15” step is max for you then I’d probably suggest a 3-step aider … maybe at 14” or so. You want to feel safe and comfortable going up the tree, for sure.
Another suggestion I would strongly encourage you on is to purchase the Ultimaider aider … it’s adjustable so you can tweak your step length to EXACTLY what you want … and you can even change it from a 3-step to a 2-step down the road if you so chose.
John launched that product right after I made this video. I have them on all my one-sticking sticks now.
@@StaggsintheWild thanks for the suggestions. Do you think a 4 step aider is overkill? Like do a 4 step aider at 14" step to step
@@GiosSimCorner I personally prefer a two-step aider … I don’t like short little steps; they’re harder for me to navigate than two longer steps. Now not everyone feels that way of course.
I do think four would be overkill … after your first move, you can only reach so high and any longer aider becomes a waste.
@@StaggsintheWild thanks again for the input. I think I will consider the ultimAider when I purchase my one stick for next season. Thanks again 👍
Two step, three step, ten step it makes no difference. You'll only be able to set the next stick at your max reach and that is the limiting factor. You could gain a tiny amount each leg of you have longer sticks but not enough to compensate for an awkward step of you have to really stretch it.
Agreed on height you can reach … after that, it boils down to how comfortable you are with step distances.
So what would you recommend for someone who is 6 feet? Michigan winters also. 2 or 3 step aider? And what size steps?
If you're not hampered by an old injury or something like that, I see no reason why a normal guy couldn't EASILY use 17" steps, even in more severe winter weather... I tend to favor a two-step aider myself, as there's just not a lot of gains after the first move with the extra step.
@@StaggsintheWild thank you sir
What brand aider is the 2 step with 22 inch step to step?
DanO sewed it for me … Eastern Woods Outdoors
The number of step aided comparisons is not correct! You started all of them at 4 ‘, you should have set them to where the bottom step was at your knee height. By setting them all at the same to platform height they all came within the same height at your second move, redo it and set them according to the bottom of the aided height and then you will see a height gain difference.
You must have only watched the second half of the video ... I did exactly what you said at the beginning to show the height gains that were possible with the different lengths. I set the sticks to 4’ on the SECOND half of the video to see how big a gain a person could get AFTER making their first move.