This Guy Is Too Good At Chess
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- Hikaru goes into a game by Paul Morphy, the guy who got too good at chess during a time when people had to figure out how to git gud at chess on their own.
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0:35 “For those of you who were around at that time”
His 165 yr old fans:
Jeez😂😂😂😂😂
How can anyone sit and say something like that with a straight face! Any boomers around here...? Makes all of us look like millennials!
@@TheAngelOfDeath01 Generational names and division didn't really begin to be perpetuated until World War I. Up to that point, people were just people all living the same life. The difference between a boomer and a millenial and a baby boomer is ~50-60 years, depending on personal definition. The difference between someone born in 1850 and a boomer is ~100 years. It does make sense that with the sweeping changes in virtually every facet of 1st world life through the 20th century, there are differences in attitude and opinion between generations. But in general, few individuals fit neatly into the stigmas or generalizations attached to the generation they came from aside from "The Greatest Generation" which produced some of the most influential and intelligent people in the world, Malcolm X, MLK Jr, Ray Bradbury, Rosalind Franklin, Henry Heimlich, just to name a small handful. Picasso is from the "Lost Generation." The Beatles, Zeppelin, Hendrix, The Clash, all from "The Silent Generation." Those left of the Boomer generation follow not the assumptions that they are conservative and strict, but are equally split in political and societal opinion. The term "Generation X" described alienated and ignored youthful ideas suppressed by the previous generations, but the ideals they adopted from the Greatest Generation and have long taken hold and are dominant today. Some "Millennials" are getting to be 40 years old now. Generation Z, my generation, have generated the largest economic growth in first world countries in the history of the world. And the newest label placed on a generation, "Alpha," is comprised of the teenagers and children of today. By 2025 Alphas are expected to dwarf other generations in size, with nearly 2 Billion projected to be born in this generation.
I don't know why I went on this rant, to be honest. Maybe because I think the terms "boomer" and "millennial" need to be retired and put in the ground as they have come to respectively mean "anyone older than me" or "anyone younger than me." Or maybe because history has only rarely been so firmly divided by generational gaps as deeply as it is now.
Anyways. Sorry for ruining the joke, Hikaru.
@@jameson5508 I know all that. But, you completely missed why I said as I did...
bro wtf is this reply section
“Ofcourse us as humans” Hikaru, you won’t trick us.
Morphy CRUSHED the best players of his time, taking chess as a childhood past time... retiring at 13 after smashing Lowenthal, coming out of retirement at 20 to kill time and show the chess world who was boss, he studied and played little chess by any chess master standar and so was at the BEGINNING of his true chess potential, yet was essentially invincible... as Anderssen himself said so... yeah the greatest chess genius in history
Agreed I can't imagine a morphy who knows modern theory😰 he will kill us
@@akramansari885 sure
Capablanca would've made mincemeat of Morphy.
@@kevinmalone3210 Didn’t know Capa was such a sore loser.
he even learnt chess from other's games, without being taught by anyone
"Bobby Fischer was a complete scrub" - GM Hikaru Nakamura
What does it mean?
"Scrubs are those who can't get no point from me"
-GM Hikaru
I mean, I guess he's technically correct...
@@ParamjitKaur-ki1ue it means that he was a scrub shrub
@@theplutonimus wow that didnt help a bit
@@ParamjitKaur-ki1ue Did you think that I am helpful? Turns out you were wrong, anyways a scrub means more like kind of wimp but not wimp, I dunno how to describe it
Google describes it as
A person who is insignificant and contemptible
Carlsen describes hikaru in one word: *decent*
Hikaru to Fischer: *scrub*
Fischer: *hates chess players in total*
My revisions:
Hikaru in one word: Phenomenal
Fischer: Deservedly in the convo for GOAT
Fischer: Hates CHESS, itself, because (in his words) "It became all about memorization."
14:32 imagine a hundred years after your death if your youtube channel still exists
didn't expect to see you here but I guess it's true that chess is exciting
you
Nice logo
imagine youtube existing for 100 years
@@delayedcreator4783 imagine existing for 100 years
"king cannot go back to e8 because then you can play knight takes king"
Yes, I think I would play that...
Where was that?
7:35
Yeah, but if the knight takes the king, you can never win, because there's no king to checkmate
@@rjthom5 damn next game i'll sac my king and instant win
@@rjthom5 tal could only dream with a move like that
Dang, not often we see Hikaru talk about legendary chess players.
Love this.
I agree. This was great.
From Hikaru's ranking of the great players videos a couple months ago, it's clear he's not much of a historian of the game. Just from my limited knowledge, I could name Kasparov, Seirwan, Feingold, and Agadmator as far more knowledgeable of chess history.
Maybe as Hikaru gets older and his own play starts to fade, he will have something to turn to, focusing more on analysis. It's fun to join him for this!
"Paul Morphy is an artist not a butcher"
-agadmator
He mentioned that he got that line from someone else.
Its a grate line tho
@@varden3270 from Gothamchess ig? Coz he said this too
@@theimperfectguitarist974 Emanuel Lasker I think
@@theimperfectguitarist974 No, he said scientist instead of butcher, and that was three years after agad said it.
The way Morphy destroyed his opponents was beautiful. It was natural and wild, unlike todays coldly calculated researched games.
Mamyedorah, I mispelled that, has some of that Morphy spunk in him.
Without a sudden "sorry about that" this video is incomplete.
The ability to play chess is the sign of a gentleman. The ability to play chess well is the sign of a wasted life.
Hikaru 👀
time?
I think paul morphy said that
Ohh okaay Thanks
m'lady
Okay, I haven't wasted my life. :D
Hikaru is dropping mad hints that he's secretly a time traveler.
It does explain a lot.
What do you mean
So every historian is a time traveler because they know what happened in the past?
@@mikeock2087 absolutely
@@mikeock2087 how else do they know? are you just discovering this? i was pretty sure the fact that all historians are time travellers was common knowledge
@@mikeock2087 He knows too much..
Bobby Fischer..... The greatest chess "scrub" of all time 😂
he said compared to Paul Morphy
@@brandonk.4864 that’s only the difference in points though Fischer probably would beat Murphy as he played later on with more knowledge
@Miller Hansen but he didn’t, who’s to say what would’ve happened because it didn’t
@@therockdwarfmockdwarf1476 exactly is Capablanca had dies before playing alekhine no one would have thought he would beat capa
@Philosopher KS You could argue that hikaru has more competition, if carlsen stays on the course he’s on then he’ll probably be considered better than anyone else in history. Hikaru also has a more modern understanding of the game so he already has an advantage
0:35 “1st thing I’m gonna go over is this game from 1850 in Paris. Now for those of you who were around back then you’ll remember there wasn’t technology” GM Hikaru nakamura
😂😂
2:22 German word for history : Geschichte
"Apperantly everyone in this chat is german now"
He underestimates the number of german viewers :D
@@RetsamX Mein persönliches Highlight wäre ja eine Collab zwischen Monte und Hikaru. Stellt euch mal Monte beim Schachspielen vor.
@@cbr7170 would be crazy funny
@@cbr7170 i agree
@@cbr7170
"In Germany, we say 'Ehre genommen"
"Alright let's play Qh5, Nf6 and c5... "
"For those of you guys who were around back then..."
Me: "Ah, yes, the good old days"
Bobby Fischer will continue to be the greatest chess enigma that ever existed and no RUclipsr will take that away from him..
True, Fischer proved himself, and is a legend.
0:33 For those of you who were around in 1858
I don't know if I've ever actually laughed at one of Hikaru's jokes, but that one got me.
Absolutely love this video and always appreciate the respect for how great Morphy was.
“Those of you who speak German”
I’m German and I had no idea what you said until you said it in English 😂
You are not alone there 😂
I searched for that comment 😂
I'm not german and don't even speak german that well but for some reason i understood.
😂His German pronunciation is hilarious😂 Mindblowing that he knows Montanablack though
Hikaru needs to give Monte a chess lesson
digga !!
4:06 Not a bongcloud xD
"of course us as humans"
Mark Zuckerberg has left the chat
I think Bobby Fischer is by far the top 3 GMs of all time in terms of talent , domination over other GMs of their era and the feat that Bobby achieved title of the world champion in an era where the Soviets had literally chess school where children were taught from an age as early as 4 years ,he did not have any support or seconds as the other Soviet GM s may have had moreover the fact that he demanded more money for the prize pool before he decided to compete against Spassky in 1972 also pushed the chess world into an era where more money would be invested in chess .Dont forget that Paul Morphy hated chess because there would have been hardly any money into chess during the 1800 ,the fact that he wanted to become a lawyer but an unsuccessful one also could have led Morphy to leave chess , as society during those times would have scorned at a man who just played a board game (even though Morphy came from a well off family )
I looked into morphy and I saw that his lawyer career wasn’t very successful; although, I hope this wasn’t the case
1:08 I'm german and i didn't understand what you said until you said that it's german
Handbuch des Schach spiels ? Maybe
Yeh that's what he said there. I didn't understand it to first cause he pronounce the ch so funny XD
For those who wants to see more of morphy match. You can watch agadmator "The morphy saga" Series where he covers all of paul morphy matches
"Hello everyone, welcome back to the Morphy Saga!"
Sorry, wrong channel.
Hahaha lol nice one
Hahahaha
Welcome back to the good stuff
Fischer returning from the grave after beung called scrub:
"I can't believe how ridiculous hikaru can be when he talks about Fischer "
Thanks for finally acknowledging us 19th century boys
Could not agree more. I get more pleasure from a tournament book like St Petersburg 1914, and the annotations by Lasker, than any amount of comp analysis.
Good to see Hikaru showing some Morphy love :)
Queen's gambit fans are gonna get triggered by the intro
Why? I don’t get it.
@@Max-kv8uw cos most of them don't know shit about chess
@@isasadiqov7721 and?. It’s great that theirs a lot of new ppl coming to the game because of such a great show. I wouldn’t hate on them
why?
@@Max-kv8uw The Queen's Gambit is based on a true story, in which the prodigy Beth Harmen is based on Bobby Fischer of course without the sex and drugs part.
I like that you immediately focus on the lack of technology back then. I always thought that chess history should be separated into pre and post-computer / engine time frames to really preserve the skill and honor of past players.
It's just not fair at all to measure up players who had to calculate positions, end games, openings, etc... on their own, vs players today who can just look at a computer to find the best positions, memorize it, and then employ it.
That's not to take anything away from modern GMs and Super GMs, but it just emphasizes how good and ahead of their times champions of the past really were, and how creative/skilled/intuitive they had to be.
As if one's ability to recognise & remember patterns is somehow distinguishable from "talent"! The self-contradictory notion that a weak chess player can memorise positions is possibly romantic at heart, rather than merely stupid. Are we to take it that given a computer & a subscription to New In Chess Paul Morphy would have reached 5000 ELO? Or at any rate far exceeded the strength of a Carlsen or a Kasparov?
Time to make up your mind. Was it harder for a strong player to excel at chess when there weren't many strong players around? Or is it harder now that there are millions of them?
The thing is the newer a game is the easier it is to gain an edge and greater discrepancies between players are present. That’s why nowadays nobody is way ahead of everyone else.
On the flip side, every player now a days has the opportunity to learn from players before them, AND we have super engines. You got to respect each generation for their best player’s dominance.
Umm Fischer wasn't a scrub Hikaru, sorry. If the two of them played in their peak I'm probably 99% sure Fischer would win every singe game as white.
If you actually wanna start the german-chess-project, i was honored to help you! Grüße aus Deutschland, keep up the great stuff!
2:18-2:28 The moment, when the Germans write "Geschichte" in chat, but Hikaru doesn't know how to pronounce it so he just starts to laugh hysterical.
3:30 and I have school at 8:00 “let’s watch hikaru”
We are in the same boat my friend
dude its 10 am at my place where you livin bro
@@saucegod4130 It's about 04:30am here on the east coast USA
@@saucegod4130 Most of Naka's viewers are American, because he's an American player
Lmao Love his german „accents“ =) nice video, Ty for the guide
@5:16 "Of course, for us as humans... Not humans, sorry. Of course as us..." Hahaha so you've finally spilled the beans
I love how the GOATS of chess can't be compared with one another because of the "age" or time they played.
Nah respect to Paul Morphy, the man was a master at chess👍👍
Would love more of this. Hearing a super gm analyze historical games is amazing.
4:05, the freudian slip move.
Fun fact. After Morphy crushed everyone in the world, he offered to play anyone a match and give his opponent pawn and move and none accepted.
They played 6 of these Kings Gambit games in 3 hours. They were semi-casual games they played for fun after Morphy won their official match. They were waiting for the photographer to set up his equipment and decided to pass the time playing some chess.
I have seen some of morphy's game om agadmator...and yeah, his opening is old but he played middle game and end game like a modern chess
What i love with Paul Morphys games is those Comboes
Football : VAR
CHESS : ENGINES.
Love this kind of content! I hope Hikaru keeps doing these analysis
For those of you who were around the time of 1858 would know -GM Hikaru ~2021
Another fun fact. Morphy invented the bongcloud. Except it was a super bongcloud with the king moving up ke2 then ke3. So it should be called a supermorphycloud
for those who were around back there :')
The 'S' in Spiel in Schachspiel is pronounced like "sch" in Fischer.
Would be nice if the editors show the chat when hikaru talks about it
20 years from now Hikaru the YT streamer will be forgotten, 100 years from now, Fischer's name will still be mentioned amongst the greatest ever
Hikarus cooler and liked by everyone, Fischers name will always be stained by his character, Hikarus also just a better player and the 5 time
@@YakubianI think that if hikaru was born at the same time that bobby was,bobby would be better
Amazing video! The games of Paul Morphy got my very excited getting into chess. He was a genius!
He was THE chess genius
YES more chess lessons and history.
Hikaru's memory be like "No no I remember this clearly, there was this game 165 years ago where I was in this line..."
Hikaru would have dusted Bobby Fischer then dude would be pissed about computers
I watched an old Bobby Fischer interview where he talked about how good Morphy was and others and even he hesitated a bit before halfway saying he thinks he would win against Morphy on implied equal terms. He never really hesitated when discussing anyone else like he did Morphy. That alone keeps Morphy as my fav and Fischer as #2 fav for me. The game required far more art and genius in Morphy's day then it did in Fischer's.
And this skyrocketed to the top 100, maybe top 20 RUclips videos!
Thanks for:
- teach me English
- teach me Chess
- teach me some History
Who cares what the computer thinks? Still BEAUTIFUL! I did an ASMR video on "The Opera Game" by Paul Morphy - to me maybe the most beautiful game of chess ever played. Paul Morphy was so awesome.
You definitely disproved that belief. - Bobby Fischer
He's still waiting for a female champion to prove him wrong
Bobby Fischer was right, chess has turned into a sad group of people who memorize all the openings and tactics and that with the help of their teams and computers have completely destroyed all the creativity of the game. Morphy was the last pure artist of chess.
Thanks! Great content!
Just love the way Hikaru talks abt chess!
Still bobby fischer is my favourite....
The difference between carlsen's rating and caruanas rating rn is 39 . So I guess carlsen is a scrub by that logic.
Yes
Compared to Morphy... yes
He's even more of a scrub considering that the rating gap was only 3 back in 2018
Again, we see another Morphy game where he doesn't develop ALL his pieces, he simply develops more pieces than his opponent. Its as though a key part of Morphy's playing style was not just the tactics of attacking, but also understanding the importance of maintaining a lead in development and activity.
Hikaru: "In 1858, for those of you guys who were around"
Everybody: "HAH that's some low key comedy"
Plot twist: Hikaru's real first name is Hiro
4:22 Hikaru plays a bong cloud out of reflex.
too bad chess is a game of memory nowadays
Yet another fun fact. Chess games were played without a clock. So players had infinite time to think.
And Morphy played WAY faster than his opponents to. Dude was absolutely godlike
Hilary should do more videos like this. Especially about Morphy
The original "Gambit"
That would make the person "around back then" 🤣170 years old...
I really like these commentary analysis videos!
It is similar with the chess game called Go. The person considered the greatest player ever was from 1600, and we study his games still. Dosaku. He is considered 4 stones stronger than the greatest player of the 1900s. That’s about 400 elo
It’s really great to have all their games written down, hundreds and hundreds. Because I’m too scared to play games and rather study. Something is wrong with me and I don’t know how to fix it
with Fischer describing him as "perhaps the most accurate player who ever lived." on Paul Morphy.
Only person with the Fischer award is Fischer. Only guy to not lose a single game in competition, correct?
After 100 years, the AI's will look at xQc's wooden shield and still won't be able to come up with a counter play.
Petition for these videos to be called: "Hikadmator reviews x"
I like = 1 more Hikadmator supporter
Fairly accurate (albeit ironic) commentary on a game played during an era when only the idle rich had the spare time to play chess, much less study it.
You couldn't be more wrong if you tried. You are about as correct as the idea that slavery was invented by white people that America loves to portray as fact.
I'm guessing Na6 was played to both get the knight into the game and prevent the idea of white's knight from coming to b5 with a potential mate by the queen on c7. Objectively, Nc6 is better and the mate can be stopped by either bishop or the rook.
8:55 if anything i think it makes it more interesting because it gives a new level of analisis on the outcome: gives you the reflection of what happened, in this case watching i was like "omg he succeeded in taking the queen with a secuence of really good moves, has more space taken and cornered a knight" but that came at a cost i realized after.
You see it and think it's a really interesting position, one player gave up a lot to capture a queen but has pieces on the board, and the computer reflects that balance. Impartial to who made the power moves or was more agressive.
The 0 doesnt mean it was for nothing it means after all that both players made plays and the evaluation should be "were those good plays or was this a constant fumble of their position?"
That 1858 lime had me laughing too much!
1:04 only understood that only after you said it was "deutsch" haha
Einfach shackspil
Ahh I remember back then Paul Morphy came to my place after back from his Europe journey and rambled about how bad Europe players were, some dude literally wasting hours calculating into single move blunder, and how he got tired of silly excuses made by so-called "Howard the coward" to avoid playing against him. Back then i wasn't into chess yet so I only replied, "Well now the others know who the real champ is" and we just drank the night away. I think that was one of the last moment he felt open talking about chess in general.
I wish I could help him being happier, but in the following month I have to move for my job and sadly we lost contact and I never had a time to meet him in person anymore.
Thanks Hikaru for bringing back the old memories. 1800s was such a crazy time.
montänabläck haha ehrenmann
“For those of you who were around at that time”
Hikaru. Wish you had a personality in that old Chessmaster game, then I could watch you play Morphy.
When Anderssen's friends asked him why he didn't play as brilliantly with Morphy as he does with others, Anderssen replied, "Morphy wouldn't let me!. It is of no use struggling against this man. He is just like a piece of machinery that is sure to come to a certain conclusion. It is impossible to play chess better than Mr. Morphy. Nobody can hope to win more than a game or two from him!" And mind you, Anderssen was considered to be the strongest player in Europe at the time.
Thank you very much GM nakamura fir this video abouy Murphy.
it's so funny to see Hikaru discovering more and more Twitch Chat Meta.
Wholesome stuff
The first time I heard of Paul Morphy was when Pokimane called him a "caveman brain"...
Mr Nakamura , nicely done , hope you will do more about Morphy , Tal , Cpa .... ect .