Conservatism Is the New Punk Rock - The Opposition w/ Jordan Klepper
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- Tim Baltz discovers a rising wave of punk-rock conservatism at CPAC and learns the fundamentals of starting a punk band from F**ked Up frontman Damian Abraham.
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"Trump is anti establishment" is the greatest paradox oxymoron hypocrisy I have ever heard, and will ever hear in my lifetime. I cannot fathom how anyone could say that without realizing they are saying "snow is anti water"
Trump is anti-establishment. If you still can't see it, you're an idiot.
@Transgenda Gubament Agreed, so do basically all republicans, and definitely all democrats. It's almost like when the establishment hates you, it says something about you being different than them in some way...
@@vforvillain77 Even if 'the media' doesn't like him (you know, except for fox news and all the other, right-wing pundit channels) he's still, you know, the president of the most powerful country in the world.
@@reddoctorproductions3746 and?
@@vforvillain77 And he's not 'punk' either. There are more than 2 options. Modern liberalism and conservatism are both very milktoast, establishment ideas.
Say it with me folks: PUNK DOESN'T JUST MEAN MUSIC, IT'S WHAT YOU DO THAT MATTERS
no actually it means music
@@recoswell errrm....
Punk is dead.
@@1.cavesprings529 Not according to The Exploited.
"This is like a more corporate shittier warped tour" LMAO
"I zone out when I start hearing things I don't wanna hear"-Americans in 2018
Yeah
americans in 2021*
@@shinoRS In 2021, we already progressed to the next stage: "No one should be able to hear things I don't wanna hear!"
americans in 2022 too. Biden is destroying america and leftist treat him like Jesus reborn
"Punk ain't no Religious Cult,
Punk means thinking for yourself." - Dead Kennedys
The DK wrote a prophetic song, rivaling 1984. They saw the Liberal State worshippers coming.
@@AshMaybeAllen No, they saw corporate warship and lobbying superceding the power of the everyman coming. 1984 is a leftist book btw sorry about having to inform you about that but you're a bigger gaylord than me and I'm actually a homosexual so I just had to. Hope you come out the closet one day though, not that I'd really date you but I believe in u! *kisses~*
Nazi Punks Nazi Punks Nazi Punks FU*CK OFf
Something which at the ethos of Conservatism it is fundamentally opposed to, being about maintaining statis quo and favoring strict hierarchy and all.
Celestial Morning Light the Overton window has shifted. Which modern party is the party that represents language policing/censorship, authoritarian big government over individuals and states right, and strict adherence to the status quo?
Conservatism, the idea that we should preserve traditional ideas, is the new.... Opposite of that....
Respect the RULES ya'll! ... Word! *awkward silence*
Well I'm a liberal democrat and although I agree with you I can't stand this new Political Central aka Comedy Central that we have now. And please let's not act like our party is a bunch of precious little saints that can never do any wrong. It is a shame that Fox News is the only news source pointing out the evils and injustices and when they come out of our fellow SJW Far left democrats when it's actually "we" who should point them out and speak out against them.
Oh please. If Fox News were even half as eager to point out the shit the right does, I might have a shred of respect for them. But they don't. They're completely biased. They're not a news source, they are an instrument of propaganda.
Armed Wombat
I agree with you about them 100%. So WHY than you genius, why should Fox News be the only news source on television pointing out the evils of the far left smarty boy? How is our side any different when they're obviously doing the same? Bubba you have universities, Hollywood, the music industry, most of the media, the gaming industry, and most entertainment in general owned by dems and they're all doing the same trash that the right is doing. Now get outta here.
When Al Franken's sexual assault allegations came down, these leftist news sources covered it. I don't believe I've ever seen coverage of the equivalents on the right, not to mention that right-aligned abusers tend to keep their jobs.
This video aged very well, especially considering the fact that people like Michael Graves advocate for "Conservative Punk" even to this day. Conservativism and punk rock is an oxymoron in itself
"Keep the system!" They screamed.
you dont even know what the system is, you moron. They were actually saying drain the swamp which is the same sentiment as smash the system. but hey, you tried.
Bless.
@@vforvillain77 Yeah but they are a part of the swamp lol.
@@vforvillain77 Trump "drained the swamp" by staffing his White House with billionaires and his own family and former business cronies. Take that, establishment!
@@williamjameslehy1341 yup. Well done Donny!
ronald reagan and jesus christ
corporations are very nice
@Transgenda Gubament Except how fucked up most of them treat their employees, how disastrous they are for the enviroment (most of them anyways) while lobbying to not have regulations put on them, them sometimes literally hiring death squads to kill people who speak against them, them controlling the US government through a system of legalized bribery and them intentionally putting out products that will kill people because they've done the numbers and found out they can make more money by doing that and having people buy it and then being sued? Ah well, I guess apart from that nothing.
@G C Yes, I agree, all of that behavior is cringe.
I’m glad Tim didn’t get hurt filming this 😂 he has the voice of an angel 👼
In all seriousness tho
Punk rock being conservative makes about as much sense as psychedelic folk being conservative
Don't give them ideas lol
you sound like you've been mindwarped by propaganda
@@Sneedmeister you sound like a scrawny white kid
@@Sneedmeister What a cookie cutter response, doesn't even make sense in this context
@@WiloPolis03 It does make sense though. You think things should be a certain way because you were told they should be a certain way.
"noooo conservatives cant be punks because punks are liberals!!!" when in reality the only qualifier for being "punk" is rebelling against the mainstream and The System, and the System is all leftists now, so it makes sense that the counter-culture "punks" would be right wing.
Didn't conservatives hate Punk Rock back in the 70s and 80s?
Really? Because last time I checked the left were the only ones who didn't mind other cultures. Who is it that cause fits what Mexican restaurants come to town, or a Mosque? Who hates parades cerebrating anything other than the military?
Remember some of the most vocal groups of the alt right: the KKK and LITERAL NAZIS!! The left hates the ANTI-CULTURE! These are groups that exist to destroy other peoples' lifestyle. Punk rock didn't blame their problems on different people, just the establishment. The alt-right is trying to co-opt the term based on one similarity, when in reality the Punks would have been protesting them.
So funny how the right wing attempts to co-opt groups that would never have them. Just like conservatives being good Christians while targeting the poor, hating anyone not like them and chasing material wealth and power...just like Jesus!
That's the whole point.... which you've seemingly missed, and, btw, none of what you've said relates to counter culture. You have though tried to tie conservatism in with alt right, KKK, and NAZI's so why would anyone expect any form of intellectually honest discourse from you.
caribstu what, pray tell, is the point I missed? I also specified the "most vocal groups," not the majority. However, these are the groups that are clearly the most anti-establishment, yet are the most anti-culture (compared to counter culture).
caribstu obviously you don't know history, kkk= ultra conservative, nazis ultra conservative alt right ultra conservative you are ignorant or lying
I'm so old, I remember when Comedy Central was cool.
Yooooo my man Mark Dice
^^^^^^^
Mark Dice Mark is studying the libtards 😜 ruclips.net/video/IMzctUXEhI8/видео.html
The problem with Comedy Central is that liberalism isn't funny. It's an ideology about censorship and political correctness above all else.
Mark Dice I remember those days.
I understand the joke, but this bothers me so much as someone that grew up in the nyc punk underground because punk was born out of socioeconomic injustice and almost everyone I know is a marxist or an anarchist lmao
Beisht Kione that’s fucking stupid. That’s like saying if you hang out with a bunch of punks then it’s punk to not be punk. Punk wasn’t about non-conformity it was about being anti-establishment including the capitalist establishment. It was about not conforming to the conservative fucking norms of the previous generation.
Beisht Kione I think the problem here is that you have no concept of the far-left or even the left which is largely absent in American politics. I’ve never once watched an American news program from the last decade where there was an actual leftist apart from when fox brought in some Anarchists from the occupy protests to mock. The closest I’ve come to seeing an American University lecture that featured a promotion of leftist ideas was a series of history lectures that featured a very materialist viewpoint.
@@allisondoak9425 It IS punk not to be punk, ya dumb fuck. That's why punk got boring a long time ago. Every idiot liking the same bands, the same 3 genres of punk approved music (punk, ska, rockabilly), wearing the same clothes, thinking the same things cuz they're not thinking at all. I never knew bigger sheep in my life than the one's i knew that called themselves punk. True punk was being whatever i wanted and thinking for myself. It sure as fuck didn't mean being one of you fragile feelybirds looking for the state to institute a socialist utopia to give you the illusion of safety. You dont get "equality" or protection without surrendering freedom. Real thinking led me to where i am. and it's way more "punk" than you fashionable people. Now go put on some safety pins and leather and repeat after me, "i am a rebel"
Punk is DIY
Carrying your own gun is DIY
Starting the american revolution was DIY
Thinking for yourself is DIY
Starting your own business is DIY
Looking at the fine print before signing a student loan instead of whining for Bernie to save you is DIY
Learning the strength not to be phased instead of wanting someone to protect you from offensive words is DIY
Hating capitalism is just fattree for pathetic whiners.
@@vforvillain77 The media is communist? Really? The media? The multi-million dollar industry ruled by just a few corporations... is communist?
@@vforvillain77 This comment is so lacking in self awareness, it's astounding! You idolize liberty and rebellion, and kneecap your ability to do so through delusions of rugged individualism, and SIMPing for the corporate oligarchs that you toil for, who buy our politicians to match their profit motive nullifying the democracy our founding fathers fought for. And then to top it all off, you call any criticism of the status quo "being sheep" or "whining", and have deluded yourself into thinking that liberals are against capitalism! You're wired better than the machine you're reading this on!
Based takes on gun rights and the american revolution, but this ain't it Chief. "No gods, no masters" means your boss too.
Omg, it was awesome seeing Damian Abraham in this. For years, he’s been doing a hell of a lot of philanthropy around Ontario for incredibly underserved and largely forgotten demographics. If anyone embodies the actual movement of punk, and not just the lifestyle, it’s him.
Bonus points, he used to be incredibly overweight and physically unhealthy due to depression, but he looks great now. Know why?? MEDICINAL MARIJUANA. Dozens of prescription meds did nothing for him, but clearly weed has been great for him.
"Ronald Reagan and Jesus Christ! Corporations are very nice!" Lol
nothing but love for the Opposition this one had got to be the best one yet
They need to get Henry Rollins on the show and ask him about this
ECW1865 oh my god that would be amazing.
Yeah bc Henry Rollins is so against the establishment and main-stream these days. You should just get Janeane Garofalo. I wonder what her stance is.
Matt Salon I’d disagree, while I do think that Henry is mostly liberal there are still things that Henry still goes conservative on, but keep in mind Punk is generally a liberal genre
Matt Salon I do agree that it has no political party, however when I say liberal I mean in the social sense, accepting people regardless of gender, sexuality, race, etc. however I would like to understand, and if you could give some examples, why you would say liberal politics is fascist
Matt Salon really? Thats news to me about Garofalo, I'll have to check that out. Thanks for the heads up.
Isn't conservatism literally defined as wanting to conserve existing customs as opposed to embracing change and progress? How the fuck do you rebel if everything you stand for is making sure nothing changes
Cause the left currently loves to give an exact direction to how u think, what u believe and behave, every big corporation is now knee deep into this cultural marxism and woke bs with fully support, by the definition of punk being on the right currently can be a way of being punk, but yea not exactly the well-known left wing punk.
The president IS a punk, he's not punk. Just dull and backward.
Snafuski that is your point of view. on the other hand finally someone isnt afraid to talk openly and that is what is so great about him
Trump is as anti establishment as you can get.... yeah he's Punk. Even the singer for the Sex Pistols endorses him and agree's he's anti establishment. So yeah, you lose this argument.
1:27 are we gonna talk about this old man hair on a 17 year old boy?!
THAT'S JUST HOW HORRIBLE CONSERVATIVES ARE
lol
being angry and terrified at/of women and minorities 24-fucking-7 seriously ages you, lol
he had to have cut that right there no way it just grew out like that right?
That's why he is punk! LOL!
I'm not a Conservative, but please Comedy Central understand the difference between Conservatism and a Republican Government.
This reminds me of that Daily Show with Jon Stewart episode in 2004 I think, where Ed Helms interviews a face paint punk Bush supporter
I remember that. He made fun of the other guy for having tattoos because they don't wash off like face paint.
The guy was Michale Graves, who replaced Glenn Danzig in the Misfits. He came out as a Proud Boy, and he got shit on for it. So yeah, he's awful
THIS IS COMEDY GOLD, Tim you are a GENIUS!
Conservatives just want a pepsi.
That's all we want is a Pepsi!
Antifa won't let you have a Pepsi. Liberals want to ban sugar! lol
@@AmishMarine
Apparently you are confused about the meaning of antifa.
waterandafter No. Antifa are Brown shirt Nazis!
waterandafter You're gonna be institutionalized
You'll come out brainwashed with bloodshot eyes
You won't have any say
They'll brainwash you until you see their Antifa way
MAPA - Make America Punk Again!
anindiya: a movement I could get behind. See you at the Flipper show at the Deaf Club.
BAD BRAINS SHOUTOUT ON COMEDY CENTRAL?! IM LOVING THIS META-MODERN LIFE!!
I wonder if those people at CPAC ever look around and wonder why there’s so many white men
Beisht Kione considering there’s nothing inherently racial about conservatism yet the vast majority of them are white is something to consider. I’m a white man, there’s no issue with being one. What matters though is looking at your surroundings, analyzing your thoughts, and wondering why you think the things you think.
"so since the majority of minorities are Democrats, does that make the left anti white racists?" No, the difference is, white men AND women AND people of color make up the Democratic party, yet the Republican party caters to and comprised of specifically white men. So what is the internal dialogue of someone who makes such strong points and politics regarding the lives of women and people of color, yet you look around and see a vast sea of people specifically like you? Is there some level of objectivity deep down inside that is bothered by living so snug and securely in a safe little bubble of your own kind, constantly?
Ra Gonk i wonder is feminists ever stop and wonder why there are so few white men? underrepresented racism and sexism much? im just using your own logic here which ofc you wont accept because your a fucking hypocrite
@@adrianamundsen6939 because feminism is for women made by women. Its main objective is for the betterment of women and equality. So by you using that analogy your agreeing with the person that conservatism is made for men in general, white men specifically. So your comment albeit made 2 years ago makes no sense. If your going to make analogies do something better.
I'm tone deaf and even I know this is bad
Man I wish this show hadn't gotten canceled just so I could see the Triggered Conservatives call anyone who doesn't agree with them a Censorship Tool. Liberalism isn't Censorship, Jordan Peele is one of the top two horror filmmakers that are hot right now, Eminem is still cool despite coming to our side, Kanye sucks now because he's on yours, you will never be cool and you are not the Ubermensch, but the Last Man. You can accept that or do what you do best and call me every made up Internet insult, but that won't change the fact that you can't take critisism and we LOVE it.
Best episode ever! I cant wait for Republican mosh pits to start popping up... oh wait Jan.6th!
Damian Abraham was awesome in this! Nice of him to play along.
Sticking it to the Man when you are the Man.
"Sticking it to the little man"? Lol
All conservatives know that Elvis invented Rock and Roll. And Taylor Swift invented doing a visual album about your relationship with Jay-Z.
paul is right. just look at his audience.. biggest demographic is 18 to 35 year olds. average age for a cnn viewer is 60. comedy central is only even still a thing because of south park and even that is failing now thanks to cartman becoming a sjw. completely ruining it
It's funny how everything is going the way the EssJayDoubleU. It's running so many people's lives.
Jumping around and going wild
*shows an elderly man*
This thing is great
That would actually be a hilarious album to listen to! You guys should totally release one!
They are establishment that is anti-establishment? How does that work?
a coup
Idk ask liberals how they control the entire culture yet still act like victims.
Liberals pretend they're part of "the resistance" that is also supported by Comcast and Nike and Walmart and other global corportations.
Leftists in 2022 Rage in Behalf of the Machine, not against it. Leftists are part of the machine and shame you for not being a cog.
@@Sneedmeister Liberals are in favor of progress. Conservatives want to stop it in order to protect their precious establishment. Progress is punk af, dude.
@@SussyBacha progressing towards what?
@@SussyBachathe establishment wants to put conservatives in death camps
Wow look out all those wild conservatives.
i mean it is, though, sorry to tell you. like, it literally is. pushing back against the establishment usually means fighting against regressive ideologies like anti-gay, anti-minority, anti-female policy, as Damien said in the video, which I'm assuming you didn't bother to watch. lol.
Enjoy being the minority! Trump 2020!
Mandy C. Did you vote in the last election? If so who for? You claim liberalism is rallying against the establishment yet people like you vote for the dick bag leftist in government as if your candidate isn’t only running to line their pockets and grab as much power as possible. Your not punk your a puppet.
“Comedy Central TOTALLY isn’t the establishment, guys! Swear!”
Neither is conservatism. There are more than 2 options.
@Tim. They frequently half of the country and divide people and challenge the political establishment such as Congress. They're far closer to Punk than conservatives ever could be.
@@christianjimmyalvarez711 Your're 100% wrong. The mainstream viewpoint is the leftist viewpoint; thus the leftist viewpoint can never be punk.
If all the celebrity politicians are anti-right, being right is punk.
Conservative punk rock is an oxymoron
conservatives are anti establishment. leftards are the establishment
I think something people forget to mention is the representation of transgender people and immigrants in many punk scenes. Its not just modern "SJW's" infiltrating the scene. The classic new York scene had people like Candy Darling and Jayne County, ECT. While also sporting people like autro vega (Mexican immigrant), Tommy Ramone (Hungarian immigrant), and Billy Murcia (Columbian immigrant).
Ohhhh right. So Comedy Central, owned by VIACOM, owned by a lifetime Democrat, wants to tell me that they are the real rebels. They are the authority on cool and punk......... Yeah right
Flávio Ramiro history speaks for itself. That said, you can ignore it if you want
At least one person here sees it.
But all the kids with emo hawks, bong ripping on memaws couch think Comedy Central is edgy...so they slap that Bernie tag on the hybrid or moped.
I love the beginning. He was literally hearing directly from the streets.
Hahaha this was awesome! Great job Tim!
Whaaat a cast on this show!!!
Not everything that is counterculture is "punk". If conservatives want to claim to be "cool" for holding widely reviled beliefs, they could just as well call themselves "skinheads".
"widely reviled" only by leftists in california. 90% of the real world is right wing. All of the middle east and africa and asian is right-wing and those places are the majority of the human population. China and India are certainly not leftist.
Your typical hit piece: carefully edit videos to frame an argument without showing full context. I'd hardly call that comedy.
Im an old german white men and also 90th... klischee-punk. And yes, its true, nothing is more punk today as join the AFD (the only german conservative party) or be conservative and TELL this in public. Let´s be rebell again, lets be punk, lets be free, lets spie the truth in the faces of all liars... even in a well suit!!!!! Punk is not to wear ugly clothes, hear simple music, take lot of drugs, sleep till overmornimng, be lazy, living in stolen flats.... - REAL punk is to be the opposite of the CURRENT mainstream!!!! In 8Oth Thachter was the system in England. now the green-left-ZEITGEIST is the System... ! Punk is to live with the system-hate and the liars of EACH Current mainstream! !!! Punks not dead! Real Punks are maybe "unvisble" but there is more except the System-Punks, this well done system supported "Antifa" ..whores of the current system... Real punks today do what REAL punks did everyday: Be opposite against the CURRENT System! Todays so called punks/lefts are just well-pampered marionettes of the system!
ok boomer
well played interviewing the guy from fucked up, but you know they're from canada, right?
3:09 his facial expressions are just priceless. He has no clue whatsoever to answer his statement.
People actually Wear those stupid MAGA hats?! ------ Are they selling trailers there, too?
Punk is not giving a fuck about what others think.
Wait, is this a comedy sketch?
Conservatives and edginess isn't a new thing, and it will never be punk rock. Imagine singing about how we need to concerve oppression against lgbt people and how things were better back in the 50s? Yea very punk
Technically PJWs comment was about being counter culture, not strictly anti-governmental establishment. Basically saying that, there's a wave of younger people who allign more closely with enlightenment values of individualism and personal liberty as opposed to the Marxist-centric, group-values of the Left.
John Cummings
No, it was satire fucking with the reppubbos.
John Cummings The alt-right might be counter culture, but that doesn't make it punk. Punk, like the guy says in the video, is all about lifting up the little guy and giving a voice to their concerns, raging against the machine. Celebrating whiteness, kicking downwards and making the voices of women, low income people and people of color quieter is like the least punk thing imaginable. Counter culture =/= punk rock. Find your own movement, don't claim someone else's.
Don't we all remember Kant saying: "Tax cuts are a good thing". And Hegel saying: "Democracy is better than constitutional monarchy." And Voltaire saying: "Everyone is in this for themselves."
You can't just label all Republicans as valuing personal liberty and all Democrats as being group-centric. Sure, Republicans want it to be easier to own guns, but they also don't want women to be able to make the choice to have an abortion. Democrats aren't all about "group-values", if they were they would oppose abortion and same-sex marriage to try to bolster America's birth rate. As a young person myself, I think our goal is (or at least should be) to try and harmonize personal liberty and group values, to let people do what they want without endangering others. But that's just my two cents, but if anyone actually read this then I guess thanks for listening?
So here’s the thing. Punk rock is a counter culture obviously. But it’s also a subculture. And punk rock has always stood against bigotry and racism. Even skinheads turned to Sharps (skinheads against racial prejudice). We have always been a symbol of solidarity. And punk ethos has always been against what conservatives stand for. The overwhelming majority of punks are liberal. It’s cute though that the conservatives think that they are punk or even know what punk is. But in a sad old person losing touch with reality sort of way.
I think there will be a sudden uprise of republican based punk bands in the near future, i know the history of punk is liberal, but now the media and popular vote are VERY liberal, and will stop at nothing until the counter culture is censored, punk isnt really liberal, its just a counter of what is popular, restricting, and taboo at the time
That sounded like an anime intro
I love how Laura, Aaron, & Josh were the band members. 😂
That was weird. Very weird. Effing weird.
but good, right?
I tried to watch PJW’s response to this but it’s so hard to get past 10 seconds of his Condescending Voice
Who's here from PJW?
Cody dog ruclips.net/video/IMzctUXEhI8/видео.html
Yep, this piece of crap video got my dislike (the "Comedy" central one).
you poor kitty
Duglife this aint a pjw video, bro.
Cody dog I saw this clip before I watched PJW's response video. But I like PJW. Comedy Central is Lame AF
1:28 I physically recoiled. Need a better overcomb, dude.
It's amazing, how far out of context you took Paul's video. Of course, we all know that you purposely did that to appeal to your bugman/numale demographic.
ruclips.net/video/IMzctUXEhI8/видео.html AND here's PAUL Joseph Watson's rebuttal....
Yes exactly. they're all nuts.
Youre an absolute idiot.
I have lived and breathed through the DIY punk/hardcore scene. It is a mostly liberal scene and platform with the exception of similar music with a further right wing message and sometimes even racist. Punk rock by its own nature rejects the mainstream, rejects the middle man, promotes a DIY ethic, has always rebelled against authorities, rebelled against injustices, built up their own communities and abroad have always come together to help each other out. Now, this is all well and good but what part of you thinks conservatism can't also subscribe to this ideology? The problem here is that some like to think that punk rock is STATIC when in fact it is KINETIC. It does not bend to the definition of music unless that is all you affiliate it with. It is more than music. It is a way of life and it is not biased to a certain political view. It is an idea, not a saturated sound. I don't care how long you have been touring and a part of the scene. If you can't see the forest for the trees, punk rock doesn't give a shit about your jaded, rigid views of what defines it.
Personally, punk rock made me conservative and THEN I BROUGHT THE ETHIC WITH ME. Nazi scum fuck off. Commie sods fuck off, too.
OMG😂😂... the words in the title.... conservatism and punk rock... you never thought would be in the same sentence even in my red bull fueled liberal arts essay ... can't stop laughing at the smug look of Tim baltz in the thumbnail😂😂😂 and the intro.... word on the street... had to express my joy....
psuedo pbs binderdondat Well, conservatism really is the new counter culture, or the new punk rock. The American government may be controlled by the Republicans now, but the left controls the media, including Hollywood. So in a sense, instead of being anti-establishment, the conservatives are now anti-media.
Right now, it is the left that is trying to censor everything it doesn’t like, just like the right did 50 years ago.
"Right now, it is the left that is trying to censor everything it doesn’t like"
Is that why Trump wants to change libel laws so he can sue more easily news outlets and people who make fun of him ? That seems an awful lot like censorship buddy
@hand solo
My god, Trump doesn't like to be defamed anymore. Now everything the left has done to fight free speech is completely justified. Thanks for opening my eyes. I'll never again complain about antifa sending civilians into hospitals because they didn't like their opinions.
lol way to miss the point and deflect. We're talking about censorship, and there's an exemple of a literal attempt at censorship : changing the libel laws. There's also the J20 protests where reporters covering the protests were just swept up by the police and were facing decades in prison just for being in the vicinity of property damage. Some are still facing that btw. They didn't participate, just filmed and livestreamed it, and they're facing decades in jail from the Trump administration. That's another exemple of censorship.
But but but antifaaaaa. Fuck that, that's just deflection. I don't agree with their methods, there I spelled it out for you, hope you're happy now you can't deflect anymore and you have to respond to Trump changing the libel laws. Remember : if you agree with it, then that makes you a fucking hypocrite
@hand solo
> I don't agree with their methods, there I spelled it out for you,
This statement is worth nothing. If you really are opposed to fascism, you should be fighting against Antifa, not Trump. Actions speak louder than words, you know. ;-)
Johnny Ramone was famously a conservative Republican.
www.washingtontimes.com/news/2004/mar/11/20040311-085521-1823r/
Paul Joseph Watson destroyed this with his latest video, maybe you should watch it.
Why should anyone waste their time? PJW is a massive idiot, just like his fans are.
IdleWorker he’s honestly worse than molymeme
IdleWorker cry more
funny but you can’t call a punk band founded in 2001 “seminal”. at the very least, they’re 25 years behind the curve. they might as well be the very last punk band
this was actualy kinda funny
Kinda!
I wonder if this joke is still relevant after Nick Cave went after woke culture and Johnny Rotten stated he would vote Trump
Johnny Rotten praised Donald Trump while Bon Jovi campaigned for Clinton. End of story.
bill: Did he? I'd like to see the clip. If so, he is getting senile. Punk back in the day was anything but conservative. It mocked and despised Margret Thatcher and made fun of the queen. Johny Rotten actually got stabbed for making fun of the queen. Making fun of a millennia-old institution is not what I would call conservative.
After like half a minute of googling, it looks like Johnny Rotten at one point claimed Trump "wasn't a racist", but has also referred to his followers as a "hateful, ignorant minority" and that Republicans under Trump are "loony and want to dismantle health care". So, make of that what you will. Not an endorsement by any stretch of the word
Conservatives are the new punk rock? Is it like opposite day? Are we in the upside down? God it sucks to be alive these days.
@Ali Said Also the rac was a manipulation tactic by the right. Remember that conservative doesn't mean right wing. That is something the right tries to enforce to sway republicans further right into the heil hitler fold.
@Ali Said I hear what your saying. I just cant get past the lyrics. The only conservative band ive heard that i actually like musically is murphys law from new york. And they were all a bunch of potheads.
@Ali Said Murphys law? theyve been around since the early 80's. Played with misfits and danzig many times. Theyre conservative but they aint down with right wing/nazis. I saw em play back in the later 90's and they were really good. Theyre drummer was this asian dude and his hand was broken cuz he kicked some nazi's ass in seattle on their tour. So they played a slowed down reggae set that night. was pretty awesome. I like their first record "back with a bong". They are the kinda conservatives that are a dying breed. Know the difference between right wing and republican.
@Ali Said And honestly i dont care if right wing bands can play good music. They still suck cuz their politics is fucked. They dont get my attention or my $.
OMGOMGOMG hilarious DK impression- "Ronald Reagan and Jesus CHRIST!"
Conservatives don't drag punk rock through the dirt.
caroline decker listen to Paul's response to this > ruclips.net/video/IMzctUXEhI8/видео.html
I hate it when comedians try to disguise their hatred towards some political party with "funny meems 😂👌👌"
Be a republican at Berkeley or any campus and report back if that's against the establishment/administration.
The Pee Tapes fans are known as 'The Urinations'. #peetapes
Conservatism is about respecting tradition....not liking fast change....
This is such a joke, Matt stone and trey Parker stated this in an interview years ago, your ripping off your own network hahahah
the thing that made me identify so strongly with punk rock as a teen was their willingness to fight for free speech, for the right to offend the establishment puritans. That just happens to be more conservatives than left wingers these days. Instead of using free speech to combat people you deem racist and evil, you just brand 'free speech' as a nazi tool. Spouting the same shit punk rockers did 30-40 years ago doesn't make you punk, specially when most of those ideas are being spread by mainstream establishment television. "if you meet the Buddha on the road, kill him"
The term conservatism is punk is not saying it is punk itself but it is equivalent to what Punk was like in the 90s in the 80s it is just counterculture
Yeah pretty much. because in the 80s and 90s punk got heavilly commercialized and became nothing more than another trend. so pretty good take here.
As a Hipster Conservative I wear my MAGO hat ironically, and drive a pristine trust fund bought truck, WITH TRUCK NUTS, ironically, and I complain about MAH TAXES, Ironically. I say "Ana Rand and Rand-Ron-Paul-Ryan" are logically going to be the next president. Also I paid $3000 dollars for my artisanal Trump bottle of piss.
Punk is horrible loud noisey. Conservatives are horrible loud & noisey. It’s an apt analogy
Comedy " *shit since Jon Stewart* " Central
Its crazy how true this has become
American conservatism is a mix of what is worst of conservatism and libertarianism. It's basically anarchy. So yea, punk seems apt for who they are now.
not really
Now that’s funny.
Beisht Kione not reading any laws ever
Anarcho-capitalism is not the same thing as anarchy. I understand where you're coming from but punk rock bands have absolutely nothing to do with republicanism
When will you geniuses (including political central aka comedy central) realize that punk rock has ZERO to do with politics? I laughed at that "punk expert" lol Whatever that means cause it's far away from a serious profession. Did he actually say that punk was invented for women and minorities? Lol Is that why there's nothing but white men singing that trash? Lol I don't think I've ever seen ONE black guy with a guitar singing in the style of punk rock. I've seen them in alternative rock which is 1000 times better than punk rock anyway.
We should all start wearing Trump shirts like Reagan shirts in the 80"s
Comedy central stop being funny years ago
CPAC was hosted at GAYLORD Convention Center.......
this "opposition "show is so cringey, and not funny at all, painful to watch
Tbf, ”deregulate everything” sounded kinda dope.
What happened to comedy central? They used to be edgy and funny and now they're just shills for the SJW crowd, sad. At least they still have South Park, Matt and Trey aren't afraid to offend (unless it's Islam, of course).
You’d really see what’s “punk” about the movement if you really went to AFPAC not CPAC
*All of this canned laughter*
Tim Baltz is such a good improviser!
*conservatives in 2030* : Conservatism is the new hip-sop scene.
You can see the look in that guy's eyes......he's not happy with sarcasm
Comedy central... More like establishment central
Against Me! is a great punk (ish) band lead by Laura Jane Grace, a totally badass trans woman.
Spotflip Pop I was a teenage anarchist is one of my favourite punk songs but I’ve never been able to get into the whole catalogue.
They're pretty much the band that got me into folk-punk.
This is why I don't watch these shows.
Fucked Up hasn't made a descent record in many years. Where does Comedy Central/Viacom get off trying to lecture us about what is punk rock? The truth is, the left is the furthest thing from punk rock these days. #MAGA