Recreating the smell of rain (Petrichor) with geosmin

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  • Опубликовано: 5 авг 2024
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    Timestamps:
    00:00 - Intro
    00:37 - Science behind the smell of rain
    10:25 - Selecting the raw materials
    15:33 - Building a rain accord
    21:38 - Final result
    24:28 - Conclusions
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Комментарии • 126

  • @Kalembastudioart
    @Kalembastudioart Год назад +44

    Not sure where to post this, however I think it is an interesting observation by myself. I noticed that a 50% blend of Jasmine and cedar smells similar to freshly cut grass! So, after watching this amazing video I realized that in the formula you gave today, if you added Jasmine and Cedar, even in a minute amount this may help with the smell of what this video explains! I could be wrong though. If you try a couple of drops of each cedar and jasmine, you will understand where my thought process comes from!

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  Год назад +20

      Oh cool! Guessing it’s jasmine sambac since that’s quite green to me. I imagine adding those would make it smell like a rain next to jasmine flowers in a cedar forest. Have you smelled cis-3-hexenol? I wonder how your accord compares to that since it’s the canonical cut grass smell.

    • @Kalembastudioart
      @Kalembastudioart Год назад +6

      @@sammacer Never tried cis-3-hexenol but will look into it!

    • @waqarghulam3548
      @waqarghulam3548 3 месяца назад +1

      You are correct. But the smell of rain on dry parched earth is not the same as fresh cut hay. Mitti atar that Sam talked about is a beautiful top note for creating fresh scents

  • @michaelcorbridge1607
    @michaelcorbridge1607 Год назад +7

    If I could give an award for the greatest ever informative video ever made, I would award it to this amazing video. I cannot thank you enough.

  • @NatureNotesByKaki
    @NatureNotesByKaki Год назад +5

    Wow, Sam - I was absolutely mesmerized by this video!!! I randomly (and very fortunately!) stumbled across it when I was just generally looking into petrichor. Thank you so much for this incredibly informative and intriguing experience!

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  Год назад

      Thank you, im glad you found it interesting :)

  • @simonstergaard
    @simonstergaard Год назад +11

    Its the taste of catfish...muddy when eaten. As an organic chemist i really like that you do a deep dive. I think there is an article that found that geosmin is made by a specific type of bacteria when it is dry, and that geosmin prevent seeds to sprout, which is quite useful, as you dont want to sprout when it dry... nature i epic.

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  Год назад

      That’s really cool, shame that I missed it!

  • @jori7398
    @jori7398 5 месяцев назад

    Morning Sam! 20:36 really appreciated your thoughtful insight that the addition of patchouli would make the fragrance specific to a certain region.
    Awesomeness! 🌧️ 🩵 💙

  • @justaddlight
    @justaddlight Год назад +9

    Very interesting about the fractal dynamics of raindrops hitting a surface. It's one of the reasons I love walking in a cool forest hours after a thunderstorm. The residual water falling off of the foliage after having absorbed many of the surface particles creates a wonderful stratified bubble all the way up to the canopy. 🌳 A fabulous vid Sam. Too right about those strong sulphurs. Really gotta dilute those down.

  • @77colorz23
    @77colorz23 7 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for making these real vidz 💯👍

  • @CraigersPvtchef
    @CraigersPvtchef 9 месяцев назад +1

    Amazing video!!!!

  • @photographedemode
    @photographedemode Год назад +1

    Thank you for your Channel, keep up the good work, you manage to answer all of my questions

  • @tomask9588
    @tomask9588 Год назад +12

    Sam's videos are great in general, but this particular one is so good I have to write a comment.
    Thank you, sir. I've been a perfumery lurker for months, but your vids motivate me to take the scentless theory into the fragrant practice.

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  Год назад +2

      Fantastic to hear, good luck with your perfumery, let me know how it goes 😊

  • @russellmoxham5625
    @russellmoxham5625 6 месяцев назад +1

    Fascinating, thank you. I'm no perfumer and don't have any real technical grasp of how different woody aromatics play off against one another or whatever, but I'd be tempted to try combining this with Evernyl and/or something akin to dirty vetiver. That cedar idea also sounds appealing, partly for some of the same reasons as patchouli (whether it would actually work or not). One of my all-time favourite designer fragrances is the discontinued Bvlgari PH Soir. It probably smells quite synthetic and strident but it takes quite a minimalist approach, with just a few notes/accords listed. There's just tea, papyrus, musk and amber, I think. The tea is very green and ozonic. (I usually find tea notes and violet leaf notes quite similar.) The papyrus is very much like a dark, damp, earthy vetiver, with definite musty library vibes. To my nose, the overall effect is quite reminiscent of petrichor, although the amber in particular points in another direction. I've yet to get my hands on another fragrance that gives me such an instant hit of rainy dirt or dirty rain. I am working on it. I suspect that that hallowed grey Narciso Rodriguez fragrance would have delighted me. Next stop, Peau d'Ailleurs.

  • @juandelacruzfraganciadelac1224
    @juandelacruzfraganciadelac1224 Год назад +1

    This is so awesome to know thank you so much for this

  • @ceruleanedict
    @ceruleanedict 11 месяцев назад

    Stumbled across your video via the algorithm, and just had to note your copy of Clayden on your shelf behind you - excellent choice :) Its my favourite textbook, and carried me through undergradute chemistry. Great video too :)

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  11 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you! Yes it’s my favourite chemistry textbook too, I think it’s the best written

  • @JesusisLord7770
    @JesusisLord7770 11 дней назад

    I have been searching so long for a fragrance that smells like rain!!

  • @siyaneliswashozi6384
    @siyaneliswashozi6384 Год назад +13

    This is brilliant I have always wanted to see if you can recreate the smell of rain. I think you could possibly add a mossy/oakmoss nature to the accord and see how it does? Anyway brilliant idea

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  Год назад +3

      Thank you! And yes, that sounds like a good Avenue for exploration

  • @superodfx
    @superodfx Год назад +5

    I love the smell of rain hiking here in an Australian eucalyptus bush forest, perhaps closer to the terpene high accord you chanced

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  Год назад

      The sounds lovely - you could add some eucalyptus essential oil to the accord and probably get that effect :)

  • @curioclassicperfumeguide
    @curioclassicperfumeguide Год назад +2

    I am not a perfumer, I am a perfume lover just like you. I was very curious about the fragrances and being watched videos, read books and articles , Indian and Western. Now I am sharing videos of fragrances formulation .

  • @oxdogoxSF
    @oxdogoxSF 9 месяцев назад

    Haha Rain with a side of ham! I'm loving your videos BTW. Great pace and detail... Thanks

  • @aroma_discovery
    @aroma_discovery 2 месяца назад

    Nice video! Thank you so much!

  • @Thuja814
    @Thuja814 10 месяцев назад

    Great video! I’m working on a rain-y fragrance, myself, rather than a rain accord. I imagine walking next to Lake Ontario, downtown Toronto, while it’s still misting after a heavy rain… For a real niche frag, one might include car exhaust and the overflow ducts of a sewage treatment plant. Clearwood & patchoulol are helpful substitutes for patchouli here. In addition to Floralozone (which I do not have), Helional and Cascalone are interesting. I don’t like the cis-3-hexenol either, it ruined a trial, but seaweed absolute is fabulous and I’m eyeing the galbanum resin. Your mention of myrcene, pinene & terpineol lead me to the lovely wild juniper berry oil (thank you!) while acknowledging the cypresses & pine. Cedrat coeur made an appearance, and it smells like the clouds might part. Also considering amyl salicylate, a metallic watery clover? Mandarin petitgrain?! Orris butter? B-caryophyllene? 🤷

    • @Thuja814
      @Thuja814 10 месяцев назад

      Humus ether?!? 😛

  • @JamieBarnes11
    @JamieBarnes11 Год назад

    Great video. I've actually just started working on a damp earth accord myself so there's a bit of crossover here for sure. Have you ever tried Earthy Pyrazine at all? Ive been mixing that with Geosmin and Terrasol and I think it's great for that damp earth feeling. What i will say though is that it's really insanely stong. Like, combined geosmin at 1% dilution, terrasol at 1% dilution and Earthy Pyrazine at 0.1% dilution in equal proportions it still basically makes the accord smell entirely like potatoes. It's really that strong. So you need really the tiniest trace of it.
    Also just talking terpenes in general: have you tried Vetiver Terpenes? I just got some recently and it seems like it could be a pretty useful matieral for a number of things.

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  Год назад

      I tried earthy pyrazine when planning the accord but in my eyes it didn’t fit. I don’t have vetiver terpenes!

  • @jrosin12
    @jrosin12 Год назад +4

    Hey Sam, did you use the dimethyl sulfide at 1%?

  • @grimetone
    @grimetone Месяц назад

    Very impressive. I've been searching for over a decade for a fragrance that smells like fresh rain on concrete and none has hit right so far.

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  Месяц назад

      Hopefully this one works for you

  • @sebastiang071
    @sebastiang071 Год назад +4

    Great video as always Sam :) that geosmin sure packs a punch haha smells like moldy crawlspaces at high amounts huh 😂🤝

  • @fartsonbasketball9206
    @fartsonbasketball9206 Год назад

    How much would you charge for a bottle of oil of your third rendition? The one that smells like rain on slate

  • @drossonero7595
    @drossonero7595 3 месяца назад

    Very informative video! Would you share where do you get those volatile components research papers from?

  • @ignisignisandrek
    @ignisignisandrek 8 месяцев назад +1

    I am a perfumer. And I want to make real smell of a fresh cucumber with violet. But no violeaf, nor cucumber absolute itself, doesn't give the smell I want

  • @abbasalikhan
    @abbasalikhan Год назад

    Thanks for this video Sam. I do have attar e mitti like you mentioned in the video and it does smell alot like the wet soil after rain however this attar is very mild overall. beautiful but mild

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  Год назад

      That’s good to know. I guess that’s a good thing since the real smell of rain is also very mild

    • @abbasalikhan
      @abbasalikhan Год назад

      @@sammacer Indeed, however i was looking at making something for candles and in that sense it wasnt working. Ill surely try your blend.

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  Год назад

      Yep go for it; mine includes the unpleasant side though too so you should look to modify it for your composition

    • @abbasalikhan
      @abbasalikhan Год назад

      @@sammacer ill surely try it and let you know how it turned out

  • @Peem_pom
    @Peem_pom Год назад

    I actually do have access to it, here in India so I'm going to check that out!

  • @milkfartss
    @milkfartss Год назад

    There are quite a few items I cannot find online, even with the perfuming supply website you provide. I realize that you have your own shop, but I wonder where you are getting your supplies from?

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  Год назад

      What are you having trouble finding? I think you can get them all at Pell Wall (that's where I got mine from)

  • @milanaviskin1296
    @milanaviskin1296 5 месяцев назад

    How can I buy it??? Out of UK. It is very important

  • @superaak
    @superaak Год назад

    Wonderful

  • @deanboman
    @deanboman Год назад +2

    Are you planning to use this accord in one of your perfumes? I would really like to buy and try something like that.

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  Год назад +1

      No plans so far but someone else asked too... Maybe I couldn't make a reed diffuser or some other product.

  • @hesham1216
    @hesham1216 Год назад +1

    Thank you for the punch of information you are giving us for free...
    My watch later list is full of your videos...
    Can I ask you on your website there is only one perfume (vanilla wood), why only one?

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  Год назад +2

      No problem, it’s good that people have access to information. Yes, I used to have two others, but I don’t like them anymore. I really spend a long time trying to perfect my perfumes and I’m also very busy so it’s not very often that I get to release one. I’m releasing a new one in a couple of weeks and working on a few more for next year!

    • @hesham1216
      @hesham1216 Год назад

      Wish you the best of luck @@sammacer

  • @rohitgangal393
    @rohitgangal393 9 месяцев назад +1

    hi i am from india sir are you commercial selling perfume fragrance ? bcz i just want to start perfume seliing business but i could not get real perfume fregrance , would you like to sell ?

  • @zacharymar8543
    @zacharymar8543 6 месяцев назад

    what app do you use to organise the measurements of all the ingredients i’d love to know cause it would definetly be an upgrade from my notebook

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  6 месяцев назад +1

      It's my app Formulair: formulair.app/

  • @riccardotodde5817
    @riccardotodde5817 Год назад

    Hello Sam! Great video, may i ask you why you decided to work with your materials pre-diluted to 1% instead of the classic 10%?

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  Год назад

      Thanks! In this case most of the raw materials are very strong and so 10% is completely overwhelming. For the terpenes, they are meant to be in the background, not the core smell, which is why they are low.

    • @riccardotodde5817
      @riccardotodde5817 Год назад

      @@sammacer thank you Sam!

  • @olehbabiy9254
    @olehbabiy9254 Год назад

    thats really cool

  • @stories_unsaid_by_kshitij
    @stories_unsaid_by_kshitij 11 месяцев назад

    Hi Sam, Where can I find Geosmin and other ingredients in Europe (France)? I cant seem to find Geosmin! Thanks for your help! :)

    • @nuguns3766
      @nuguns3766 2 месяца назад

      pell well, i cannot post links so my other comment turned invisible. Idk if thats available in france though, hope so

  • @Con3maS
    @Con3maS Год назад +1

    Do you know the Katafray essential oil? It smells like "before rain" for me

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  Год назад

      Never heard of it! But that’s very intriguing

  • @ms.s.vincent
    @ms.s.vincent 10 месяцев назад

    I'm a newbie and I only recently discovered your channel, so I could be completely wrong, but after smelling Molecule 05 from Escentric Molecules (cashmeran) I feel like it would be a great ingredient for recreating this elusive scent. To me it smells a bit of dirt/concrete with a bit of greenness somewhere. If you ever try it let us know :D

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  10 месяцев назад

      Yes I completely agree cashmeran smells earthy - but not as much as the molecules here. If you wanted to make the accord less realistic and more perfumey then I would definetly consider cashmeran

    • @ms.s.vincent
      @ms.s.vincent 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@sammacer thank you for your response! I’m chasing this petrichor scent so badly I might try your formula one day☺️

  • @chrisosborne9254
    @chrisosborne9254 Год назад

    What are your thoughts on using 2 ethyl fenchol to add the 'muddy' notes?

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  Год назад +1

      Nice idea - I’ve heard of fenchols having mushroom type notes which I think could work well. I don’t have any though since it’s a little more obscure

  • @nickidaisydandelion4044
    @nickidaisydandelion4044 Год назад

    Is the Patchouli from the Patchouli plant or did you get a synthesized molecule? Are chemists already synthesizing all natural essences? I noticed that strawberry synthetic molecules actually have the same skin healing effects.

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  Год назад +1

      No the patchouli is natural, many naturals are used in perfumery alongside synthetics

    • @nickidaisydandelion4044
      @nickidaisydandelion4044 Год назад

      @@sammacer I love Patchouli.

  • @multiz0rak
    @multiz0rak Год назад

    iirc christopher brosius of i hate perfume did something along these lines a while ago, and it was quite camforous. so maybe it's an option to try pure camphor instead of patchouli. also it's strange that cashmeran wasn't even mentioned, i would think it's a natural candidate for an earthy-rainy smell. also it would be fun to play with eucalyptus/mint kind of materials that have the trigeminal cooling effect on the nose

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  Год назад +3

      I did think about cashmeran, camphor and mint. I find cashmeran not as earthy as pure geosmin or even something like terranol. Camphor seemed like it wouldn’t be present in most rain and the same with mint. Certainly logical avenues of exploration though!

    • @multiz0rak
      @multiz0rak Год назад

      @@sammacer regarding camphor and mint: i guess in the end it depends on the level of abstraction you're aiming at. whether it's a photorealistic headspace sort of smell of wet soil or an artistic evocation of rain in a perfume. obviously in the latter case you have an artistic license to use whichever material you want :)

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  Год назад +1

      @@multiz0rak Yep - in this case I was aiming at the more photorealistic side of things :)

  • @saidalcapone3964
    @saidalcapone3964 Год назад +1

    Where do you buy the oil for geosmin?

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  Год назад

      Mine was from Pell Wall but many places stock it

  • @sgargabonzo
    @sgargabonzo 3 месяца назад

    I made a rainy accord using: basil, calone, vetiver, patchouli, cedar wood and mousse de metre. It s very good

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  3 месяца назад +1

      Lovely

    • @mckmckkrat
      @mckmckkrat Месяц назад

      can you give me the formula?

  • @loveamber7285
    @loveamber7285 Год назад +1

    Dear Sam, do you give lessons in perfume design I would like to learn from you

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  Год назад

      I offer private tuition - email me at sam@lux-terra.co.uk for more info

  • @Vetiver386
    @Vetiver386 5 месяцев назад

    OMG I NEED that accord! Maybe you will begin shipping to the US one day 😢

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  5 месяцев назад +1

      You should be able to find the ingredients on Perfumer’s Apprentice

    • @Vetiver386
      @Vetiver386 5 месяцев назад

      Thanks,@@sammacer. I called and yes, they have them!

  • @lordstarck2982
    @lordstarck2982 Год назад

    Hello, Sam and thanks for this video! Can you please help me to find library of raw materials and there explaining? Thank you in advance!!!

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  Год назад

      Check out my video on beginners raw materials!

    • @lordstarck2982
      @lordstarck2982 Год назад

      @@sammacer I already watched it and after that i buy one of the books but there is no this kind like dictionary witch material what aroma or filling explained

  • @theresalawrence156
    @theresalawrence156 Год назад

    Violet leaf or fir always makes me think of rain.

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  Год назад

      Very interesting! Maybe it’s because green and forest smells are emphasised in the rain

  • @Reign_Of_Is_REAL
    @Reign_Of_Is_REAL Год назад +9

    I created my first base (5 ingredients 4 trials) for my BF and it smells so great idk how I’ll add anything else to it. 🤷🏽‍♀️😅😳😳😳

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  Год назад +4

      Fantastic

    • @shobarbaba
      @shobarbaba Год назад

      HI HEY IM DOING THE SAME THING FOR MY BF COULD YOU TELL ME WHAT YOU USED

  • @HowlingHeartsong
    @HowlingHeartsong Год назад

    Could you sell that third version?

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  Год назад

      I would prefer you don’t try to sell my formulas! It’s not really suitable as a full perfume, more a building block.

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  Год назад

      I would prefer you don’t try to sell my formulas! It’s not really suitable as a full perfume, more a building block.

  • @eestiny9734
    @eestiny9734 Год назад

    Petrichor straight up smells like by the river rocks nothing like rain on my nose (tried to have it grow on me cause i love rain, but style can't). And the smell isn't that pleasant. The smell of rain depends also on the geography (rain is a bouquet of both from the air and anything on the ground , and the nature of the surface the rain is falling on! Have been disappointed by countless fragrances that tried to capture rain, petrichor or not... same with fragrance that "smells" like the sea.

    • @chrisjensen9721
      @chrisjensen9721 10 месяцев назад

      Desert rain is sumptuous, especially in Arizona and New Mexico. The smells are stronger if it's been really hot

  • @clayboneous8
    @clayboneous8 11 месяцев назад

    Would you ever sell that petrichor accord?

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  11 месяцев назад

      I could do - sent me and email at sam@lux-terra.co.uk explaining a bit more about how much you would like, your use case etc so I can understand what that product would look like

    • @emilysha418
      @emilysha418 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@sammacer I'm also interested, I would like to use it in an indoor garden room, using a candle warmer or ultrasonic diffuser on a timer to make it smell like morning rain.

  • @chrisjensen9721
    @chrisjensen9721 10 месяцев назад

    Wish I could buy the third accord

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  10 месяцев назад

      I will try to offer it for sale in the near future

  • @mastermaly1
    @mastermaly1 Год назад +1

    how about adoxal??

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  Год назад

      Nice idea - I have a sample but haven’t diluted it yet. I imagine it would fit

    • @mastermaly1
      @mastermaly1 Год назад

      @@sammaceralso ozone, but dirtier than Floralzone. I think it would fit very well,I was curious about your opinion.Thanks for the answer

  • @takky4774
    @takky4774 3 месяца назад

    Take the mic sensitivity down a bit. Its noisey

  • @srgttamtam
    @srgttamtam Год назад

    I wonder, what would terranol do to that accord?

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  Год назад +1

      I looked at terranol for this video but didn’t have time to cover it. In my opinion it’s like “geosmin made more elegant for perfumery” - so maybe in a real perfume switching geosmin for terranol would be a good modification

    • @srgttamtam
      @srgttamtam Год назад

      @@sammacer Right. Actually, I had interesting results, combining terranol and geosmin in a 6:1 ratio. Give that a go, if you obtain some geosmin. Might also be interesting to play around with some Musks, especially the animalic ones like f.e. exaltone or exaltolide. That doesn't necessarily make it smell like rain, but it kind of adds to the ground part of the accord.

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  Год назад +1

      @@srgttamtam I think those would go great when bending it towards a perfume rather than just a more photorealistic impression

    • @srgttamtam
      @srgttamtam Год назад

      @@sammacer oh ya, for sure.

  • @Ballu12345
    @Ballu12345 Год назад

    I just keep mixing any Attars and come up with Disaster

  • @tuffymartinez
    @tuffymartinez Год назад

    THANK YOU SAM MACER !!!!! What did you think of the movie "PERFUME, The Story Of A Murderer" ??
    TM

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  Год назад +1

      You mean the book or the film? I read the book, thought it was quite interesting

    • @tuffymartinez
      @tuffymartinez Год назад

      @@sammacer Please seriously consider watching the film... Again I very much appreciate your serious mature attitude, clear thinking performance/explanations. Very well done and I look forward to MORE.... TM

  • @hamadsarhan9097
    @hamadsarhan9097 Год назад

    If u loved to I can send u my formela

  • @hypr.co1
    @hypr.co1 18 дней назад

    What do u dilute all of that chemical with bro?