one thing i will forever love about this video, is that hololive vtubers noticed this video, AND at the top right there is a kinemaster watermark throughout the entire video. ty for 700k views
@@Veneficus1996 Pretty much all of them considering they all laughed when Gura brought up the question during her Big Brain Games quiz show they all knew what she was doing, with Ollie heavily hinting at this clip. Her past identity is not a well kept secret.. And if one or two knows, let alone 6, then they all know.
@@cn8299 Yeah I accidentally came across it yesterday and remembered what you meant. Although there is also another viral clip of the same moment without any mention of Senzawa so Ollie could have been talking about it, but it's also almost certain that many of them would know her past identity, especially the EN (e.g. Mumei, Ame for certain and if they know probably everyone from their gen knows too)
@@bantatepon7015 I think she knows for sure haha I mean, imo all of the holoen girls know eachother irl, and they probably talked about their past activities when they met
@@Abner_Br you know these vids show up in their recomendations right. so you know, i know, they know, HL knows and gura knows that you know. the secret wasn't well kept at all.
Right from her debut there was something about her that had me. Took me six weeks before I figured it out. I think it didn't occur to me at first because Sen always uploaded like 8 months apart and it had only been 5 months since the last upload so I wasn't expecting anything soon
Same I can't believe it took me this long to realise, I was there for both streams and I still didn't get the reference at first, I can believe I watched gura before she was gura!
I heard that she was having a hard time when she was Senzawa. Hearing that music and remembering those times with such a good friend like Ame, it feels a little melancholic.
@@bigainzfan6934 ame asked as a joke, but gura didn't reply with the same humor. That's why ame changed the topic quickly when she responded with a straight answer. Maybe she is not allowed to disclose/hint about her past as senzawa
Vyrkhan - KFP Hotel WiFi Uh, not from what I see. She pretty clearly mutes herself and laughs at the end. The pause was more of just a "damn, you got me, that was clever" type thing. She herself makes references all the time. (And she doesn't give a straight answer. She says moosi which definitely isn't the right answer, and then even references the "one moose many meese" line with her "one moose many moosi" and "one goose many many geese" comments.)
@@Vyrkhan Hololive contract forbids them from sharing any personal info or anything from before she joined Hololive. They are pretty strict about that shit because of antis and doxxers Who for some reason like stalking Hololive's "idols"
Aww man, I felt that flashback moment, it is like Amelia woke up a small, but yet treasured memory on Gura's hearth. Despite her current huge success, I'm pretty sure she really misses the old days before "a".
I don’t think she misses them in a bad way. Just good for her to remember where she came from and the fans that have helped her reach the place she’s at now.
Or rather :" You can't? Then we are gonna do it ourselves!" Said every HoloMyth member (except ina since she is the almighty ancient one and always has been). Calli's was in her debut song, Kiara in her greeting, Gura this and the mad rhythm game skills, as for Ame she didnt even hide her goblin personality so everyone that watched her before recognized ame instantly.
@@gentrydean3789 Should I explain or do you want to find them yourself? Honestly finding all the hints every HoloMyth member left was like playing an ARG or treasure hunt. Searching for it was fun in itself so you should definitely try it xD
@@muratkahraman8743 Ina does it in a way that doesn't require her to verbally say anything. Being a pro artist doing art for popular gacha games and then doing artwork for your generation pre-debut said all it needed to.
@@ParabolicBox Yeah I know who ina is but before HoloMyth Ina was just an artist and not a content creator like the others hence why I said she is the ancient one and always was :)
This is one of my favorite clips of Ame/Gura. The Minecraft music in the background, the layers of "if you know, you know", and the nostalgia of the early EN server days.
The way gura just stopped and stood there for a moment really hit different man. like immediately being taken right back to when things used to be so cool and fun, and then right back where (for gura)everything is still cool and fun, but now in shark.
@@Kain1805 The name? I don't think it's matter that much. It's where Gura ask Ame is anybody call her in certain nicknames like: and that's where she said a name and it's kinda telling, because she burst out laughing right after.
This almost made me tear up. I miss sen but knowing that she lives on now as gura. It makes me insanely happy. Like genuinely and truly so happy for her. Never forget.
0:41 I love her Sub notification; it just captures that energetic energy of the past; now shes on to bigger and better things, and is on top of it rn; she deserves every success shes gotten thus far, and the journey is not over yet. Its great!
i heard that ame knew gura b4 as her other persona as well. so they both knew each other back then, ame was just trying to make gura have some flashbacks i guess ?
As somebody that had never seen Senzawa before Gura, when I'm watching Senzawa, I basically feel like I'm just watching Gura. I have prosopagnosia, also known as "facial blindness". Growing up, it seemed normal, and I was surprised to find out later in life that people can actually recognize each other by their faces, because I had become accustomed to identifying people by *other* means, one of the major ones being speech patterns. If they aren't the same person, than linguistically speaking, they're doppelgangers, because I literally hear no difference, except that Gura might be trying a little harder to "tone it down" (like those kids that crossed their arms and *pretended* they weren't acting cool?), almost like she's *trying* to sound different (it's like she sprinkled some Jersey over top her more natural fluctuations). Gura feels like she's throwing her voice, whereas Sen feels more natural, which makes sense given she probably wasn't expecting to change
You can kind of tell that Gura is rather nostalgic about her past endeavours in the V-tuber industry by the way that she hesitated for a second. I'm happy for her nonetheless, because I heard that she was struggling to make ends meet as Senzawa
Wait a minute. What if Mumei is Sensawa who took a break, realised everyone was thinking she was gura, then decided fuck it, I'll join in and troll everyone.
one thing i will forever love about this video, is that hololive vtubers noticed this video, AND at the top right there is a kinemaster watermark throughout the entire video.
ty for 700k views
You gotta love the kinemaster watermark.
Which hololive vtuber noticed it?
@@Veneficus1996 Pretty much all of them considering they all laughed when Gura brought up the question during her Big Brain Games quiz show they all knew what she was doing, with Ollie heavily hinting at this clip. Her past identity is not a well kept secret.. And if one or two knows, let alone 6, then they all know.
@@cn8299 Yeah I accidentally came across it yesterday and remembered what you meant. Although there is also another viral clip of the same moment without any mention of Senzawa so Ollie could have been talking about it, but it's also almost certain that many of them would know her past identity, especially the EN (e.g. Mumei, Ame for certain and if they know probably everyone from their gen knows too)
I didn't even noticed that.
ame making gura slip up on stream lol
that long pause gura was thinking _f*ing ame youre doing this on purpose_
Funniest shit I ever read.
She was tho. They knew each other back then too.
@@dariogutierrez6716 no, they dont know each other back then
@@ree6933 are u sure about that
@@Kitsu_no_mirai there's no proof that they know each other before
Senzawa: /reaches 1M
Senzawa: *wanna see me do it again?*
Gura: Double or Nothing
ROUND 2: FIGHT
What was her sub count at when her last video went up before becoming Gura?
@@sphygo She had a Million, and even though she hasn't uploaded in a year, it's still growing
Sen: Wanna see me do it a Third time?
I can’t believe Senzawa and Amelia Watson were the same person all along
underrated comment
@@doubleedge2814 I thought Amelia was sachiowo?
@@theactualparadox nah everyone is gura
@@NeostormXLMAX The Gura Everywhere System.
idk you 3 above, but you guys probably gonna be wooshed soon
Gura: **Tries to avoid saying meese or mooseses**
"It's Moosi"
One Moose, Many Moose: I'm about blow this Shark's whole cover.
She even changed her voice for that.
Wait, you can blow a shark irl?
@@bangjoseph.s6541 ...
Yes
@@ljuc thnx
@@bangjoseph.s6541 😳
plot twist, ame wasn't sure and wanted to see if gura was sen lol
I think Ame knows, she's only messing around with Gura.
lol thats what im thinking the whole time
ame knows for sure lol.
@@bantatepon7015 I think she knows for sure haha I mean, imo all of the holoen girls know eachother irl, and they probably talked about their past activities when they met
@@Abner_Br you know these vids show up in their recomendations right. so you know, i know, they know, HL knows and gura knows that you know. the secret wasn't well kept at all.
aw i love that ame made gura laugh with her own old joke, a little bittersweet but it kinda shows that ame's very close to gura
@@shabath no shit sherlock
@@byehello8258 *Sherlock Watson
Wait Sen is gura?????
@@kurosakitagami2788 idk but mybe yes :D
@@kurosakitagami2788 😱😱😱
Gura: How did you know?!
Ame: Gee, it's almost as if I'm a *detective* !
*Police Girl flashbacks*
Gura: sarcasm is unbecoming of you...
Ame knew gura before hololive
BaaaAAAAkA 😜
*INVESTIGATOR*
the way she stops and closes her eyes remembering the old days.... i felt that
She's remembering her past life.
The second time I think she muted herself to laugh, and she accidentally left the tracking space of the camera.
wait are they actually the same person?
@@dohremee it's a bit of an open secret. everyone knows but don't say it out loud ;^)
Same with the Minecraft music
How have I never noticed this? I've followed senzawa way back in the good ol' days when it was just shitposts. This feels so surreal...
Same, when Gura debuted I was thinking all day “goddamn why does her voice sound so familiar? Where have I heard her?”
Saame
Right from her debut there was something about her that had me. Took me six weeks before I figured it out. I think it didn't occur to me at first because Sen always uploaded like 8 months apart and it had only been 5 months since the last upload so I wasn't expecting anything soon
Same I can't believe it took me this long to realise, I was there for both streams and I still didn't get the reference at first, I can believe I watched gura before she was gura!
I know!!!
The nostalgic minecraft music really tied it together
mice on venus did it again
Definitely would make a true senzawa fan cry
@hello find out
Its always mice on venus that makes everything hit different
@@ricksmic2284 it made me smile but happily. I thought it was cute seeing her remember and her action from there on.
Made with KINEMASTER
F O R E V E R
@@Nonkana *K I N G*
@@Nonkana *H E L L Y E A*
You gotta love that small little watermark that says "Made With Kinemaster" and the updated version of it
Lmao
I heard that she was having a hard time when she was Senzawa.
Hearing that music and remembering those times with such a good friend like Ame, it feels a little melancholic.
Would you mind sharing? If it's something really messed up then don't worry about it.
@@bigainzfan6934 ame asked as a joke, but gura didn't reply with the same humor. That's why ame changed the topic quickly when she responded with a straight answer. Maybe she is not allowed to disclose/hint about her past as senzawa
@@Vyrkhan but we still know tho
Vyrkhan - KFP Hotel WiFi Uh, not from what I see. She pretty clearly mutes herself and laughs at the end. The pause was more of just a "damn, you got me, that was clever" type thing. She herself makes references all the time.
(And she doesn't give a straight answer. She says moosi which definitely isn't the right answer, and then even references the "one moose many meese" line with her "one moose many moosi" and "one goose many many geese" comments.)
@@Vyrkhan Hololive contract forbids them from sharing any personal info or anything from before she joined Hololive. They are pretty strict about that shit because of antis and doxxers Who for some reason like stalking Hololive's "idols"
That Ame and her time traveling
Wattson conccotion powers...
Aww man, I felt that flashback moment, it is like Amelia woke up a small, but yet treasured memory on Gura's hearth. Despite her current huge success, I'm pretty sure she really misses the old days before "a".
Agree
Agree
Even if they were also good, why would she miss them?
Supposedly she doesn't.
I don’t think she misses them in a bad way. Just good for her to remember where she came from and the fans that have helped her reach the place she’s at now.
At 0:30 dude named maki kurisu says "my friend is gay" in russian
very interesting fact, thanks for pointing that out lmao
Little did he know we didn't see him
@@SandeMC indeed my friend
I get that it’s Russian but the way it’s pronounced is something along the lines of “moi drug gay” and I find that way too funny
@@sanchir5960 yeah, the deliverance of this phrase is so dry that it makes it hilarious
I like how when Ame says "meese" Gura immediately stops I'm her tracks, she instantly understands what Ame is doing.
"You can't just expose VTubers past identities!!!"
ame and gura: watch this
Or rather :" You can't? Then we are gonna do it ourselves!" Said every HoloMyth member (except ina since she is the almighty ancient one and always has been). Calli's was in her debut song, Kiara in her greeting, Gura this and the mad rhythm game skills, as for Ame she didnt even hide her goblin personality so everyone that watched her before recognized ame instantly.
@@muratkahraman8743 Oh gall - I don't understand most of your references and I don't know whether or not to dive deeper...
@@gentrydean3789 Should I explain or do you want to find them yourself? Honestly finding all the hints every HoloMyth member left was like playing an ARG or treasure hunt. Searching for it was fun in itself so you should definitely try it xD
@@muratkahraman8743 Ina does it in a way that doesn't require her to verbally say anything. Being a pro artist doing art for popular gacha games and then doing artwork for your generation pre-debut said all it needed to.
@@ParabolicBox Yeah I know who ina is but before HoloMyth Ina was just an artist and not a content creator like the others hence why I said she is the ancient one and always was :)
Imagine if Gura said "it's moosesus" and winked to the camera. My life would be complete
That
MooseSUS
SUS
MOOSE
Ik this is a joke but she probably couldn't, that'd be too outright and Hololive would probably see it as a violation of her contract
the way gura says "no it's moosai" with a completely flat tone, is kinda funny, like she was thinking "why'd you do this to me"
Of course Ame be giving Gura ptsd
But then later Gura said something even worse to turn the tables like 100x worse. (In the same stream)
@@xbon1 what was it?
@@Demian_Garcia nah bruh, fogeddabout it. i remember exactly what it was and it might've even been an accident but idk mane idek.
@@Demian_Garcia she said ames real name
she stopped. had a flash back. and laughed slightly to herself. remembering the good old days.
im crying
This is one of my favorite clips of Ame/Gura. The Minecraft music in the background, the layers of "if you know, you know", and the nostalgia of the early EN server days.
If you know,you know?
will say it once "brownbeeTV
I love how at the end she muted herself and just started laughing her ass off
All of my friends who don’t know about Senzawa or Hololive always ask me “which one are you?” and it’s funny
You should ask them which one they think you are
Gura and Senzawa are the same person idk what you’re talking about
@@okuyashoe_official Senzawa is Gura but distorted
Come on. We all know what Ame was tryna do lol
Ame just casually dropping lore of a shark's past life. A true detective indeed.
Love the way Ame disguised seeing old clip of her as "dream"
WAIT A MINUTE, NO WAY, NOOO WWWAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY IM GONNA CRIIII
You now know to much lol
_*Hands cowboy hat and beer can_
Welcome to the Country Roads, fellow cowboy
@@micah5050 i knew many things but this was unexpected, i shall guard the forbidden knowledge with great care
@@liu7052 howdy do
How do people still not know this
Finding out that Gura WAS Senzawa is the vtuber equivalent of finding out that Joji was Filthy Frank.
Or Kson was Coco
@@AwkwrdPrtMskrt Or Coco was Kson.
Or@@E4439Qv5 Kronii was Dottovu
@@E4439Qv5 "Are you Kson because you were Coco, or are you Coco because you were Kson?"
It's just moose by the way.
Wait... It's all moose?
Always has been.
@@blarg2429 🌎 👨🏼🚀 🔫👨🏼🚀
Like one anime, many anime
No, it's moosi, she clearly said it.
@@handlesarecringe957 it’s not animes ?
Amen did says she meet gura many years before the hololive days
there were people in senzawas stream asking about whether or not senz applied for hololive
Sachiowo is Ame, and yeh, Ame actually said on her hololive about knowing Gura before, and tell her they were gonna be hololive members one day.
Amen. I see.
@@SlainByTheWire damn, that's insanely sweet
Amen
0:12 Pantsy in the chat knows what's up
Gotta be Ame's alt account XD SHE WAS PULLING THE STRINGS THE WHOLE TIME!
whoever was my 500kth viewer on this video, you’re cool
it wasn't me :pensive:
That was probably me
@@djray8 you’re cool
@@yoshiwav :pepestare:
The clipoers that link to the original stream are even cooler. I guess you aren't one of the cool ones. :
I love how she comes back with confidence:
"No, it's Moosi"
"Really?"
"Yes.
One Moose. Many Moosi."
If you sound confident enough no one dares to question you.
Meesa moosa mickey mouse
That's an entire character devolpment arc summerized.
and, yet moosi is not the correct one haha
@@n_s3404 M - I - C - K - E - Y... Did you do this to me....
I come back to this every once in a while when I need a good cry. Works every damn timd
I like how you can hear Gura laugh briefly before her answer and how it's different, like she acknowledges her past and has moved beyond it
Wait what, gura was senzawa?
So like, spooky owoky pumpkin, crunchyroll take me home and stuff, it's all gura? Thats a big revelation for me
Brings a smile to your face, doesn't it?
@@jaycee330 it's funny imagining gura getting drunk indeed
The way gura just stopped and stood there for a moment really hit different man. like immediately being taken right back to when things used to be so cool and fun, and then right back where (for gura)everything is still cool and fun, but now in shark.
You think you are in a bad place, but when you look back, you find out maybe it wasn't so bad after all.
Ame sus
I bet Ame is secretly Senzawa and Gura is a sound-alike included as part of a cover-up.
My theory is the girls are from parallel universe and the real senzawa is actually Yagoo impersonating anime girls
Moosesus
(Jerma sus smile)
Ame is detective you know😂😂
Big brains Ollie and Bae have seen this.
That gasp from the others when she asked this question earlier today. It was like she was admiring the gems on her Infinity Gauntlet.
im suddenly sad i never got the chance to watch senzawa back when she was senzawa
saw a clip of shark question and I had to come by to watch this gem
My face when the biggest of brains made this reference.
0:12 "Pantsy: Would you ever apply to be a vtuber for a company?"
🤨
ayo, you might be onto something
i wanna be a cowboy baby!!! a miss those shits
I got that song on spotify, i cant stop listen it, it's pure gold!!!
But would you go to Ram Ranch?!?
The 36 naked cowboys need us!!!
This is forboden, some things just can't be said.
Forboden by us normal plebs. But the girls can all they want :) 😀
WE'VE GONE FULL CIRCLE LADS
The minecraft music just makes it even more nostalgic feeling
Is really no one going to point out how silly "Moosi" sounds but Ame just straight up bought it?
Probably was an inside joke among them, somebody pointed out, later on this stream, Gura "accidentally" called Ame in her real name.
@@Pmurder3 What is it?
@@Kain1805 The name? I don't think it's matter that much. It's where Gura ask Ame is anybody call her in certain nicknames like: and that's where she said a name and it's kinda telling, because she burst out laughing right after.
you have no idea just how silly english is at times.
@@Pmurder3 If the guy asked it means he wants to know, so it matters to him
"in your dream? come on watson, we all know you're lying"
Considering they were both v-tubers before hololive and have claimed to already know each other prior to hololive. Ame probably watched that stream.
Ame literally gave Gura a PTSD (Posttraumatic Shark Disorder)
I just wanna put it out there, the actual plural of moose is moose.
Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk
Hey this is Ted bear
This almost made me tear up. I miss sen but knowing that she lives on now as gura. It makes me insanely happy. Like genuinely and truly so happy for her. Never forget.
So that is why gawr gura has that charm and blew up so quickly, she was the OG queen all along.
I felt something deep when she paused and blinked
Wait... I already watched this? I don't even remember this lol.
She paused. She knew Ame found out. And probably the flashbacks too. The nostalgia probs hit her like a truck.
To put it simply senzawa is now gura. Im being mindblown rn
Ok but shout out to the madlads in sen's chat who put the plural of moose as "moses"
And the Minecraft Background music made it even better!
Oh, they were right. It WAS clipped.
it is clipped lol
Yeah, Ollie kind of let it slip lmao.
Senzawa was my favorite memer and now she has envolved...
this clip gonna blow up again soon
Here for the Gura's Big Brain question callback.
god after that she mentions it again
please never delete this a need it for when times are rough.
her tone changed, i'm just happy to see her again in a better place
gura had an opportunity to bring up Ame's n word incident for that one
Well she did name drop Ame's real name later on
I'm pretty sure Gura is cracking up at the end there, guys
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Ara ara
Qwertt
HELLO FELLOW STUDENTS!!
I miss senzawa. Im glad she still exists one wait or another
I love it, you just know Ame had a big evil grin on her face when she did this :D
Minecraft music doing it's job once again of making a sudden nostalgic flashback hit even harder.
Ame: (trying to expose gura's identity)
Gura: damn ame she's doing this on purpose
Hearing gura sniff I little bit and that change of voice , she had a nostalgia there
I can just imagine Gura after the stream was like "WTF AME"
Ame would fs bust out laughing once she was in the clear after such a masterful troll
Me: **forgets the plural of Goose**
*"Goosi"*
Gucci
"shuba?" wait
It hit in the heart when she was trying to hold back, like "I've won this time... but only in my memories."
0:41 I love her Sub notification; it just captures that energetic energy of the past; now shes on to bigger and better things, and is on top of it rn; she deserves every success shes gotten thus far, and the journey is not over yet. Its great!
"MooseSUS"
Her humor was way too advanced for her time
1:00 shout out to the guy who said "Messi"
aaaand we're back again 😏
Senzawa: what's plural for moose?
My dumbass: It's Meese!
A certain shark girl just so happened to feature this bit of trivia in a video with her colleagues recently.
So she was just as hydrodynamic in a previous life.
One day we will all look back at this and say fuck I'm old
"Mice on venus" playing in the background makes it even better
I just like how Gura is shocked hearing Ame say something she wasn’t supposed to know... like if Ame herself discovered Gura is Senzawa
Internet es inmenso no tiene limite y las cosas que quedan en el son eternas y ame seguramente lo descubrió XD
I read that Sachiowo used to be subscribed to Senzawa...so, yeah, they both knew each other for sure.
i heard that ame knew gura b4 as her other persona as well. so they both knew each other back then, ame was just trying to make gura have some flashbacks i guess ?
I bet the "dream" Ame was talking about was just her remembering the old senzawa stream and hinting it back to Gura.
As somebody that had never seen Senzawa before Gura, when I'm watching Senzawa, I basically feel like I'm just watching Gura.
I have prosopagnosia, also known as "facial blindness". Growing up, it seemed normal, and I was surprised to find out later in life that people can actually recognize each other by their faces, because I had become accustomed to identifying people by *other* means, one of the major ones being speech patterns.
If they aren't the same person, than linguistically speaking, they're doppelgangers, because I literally hear no difference, except that Gura might be trying a little harder to "tone it down" (like those kids that crossed their arms and *pretended* they weren't acting cool?), almost like she's *trying* to sound different (it's like she sprinkled some Jersey over top her more natural fluctuations).
Gura feels like she's throwing her voice, whereas Sen feels more natural, which makes sense given she probably wasn't expecting to change
do you still follow vtubers 👉👈
i wanna know your thoughts on mumei gura lol
I can actually watch gura
Senzawa was boring and I had to watch her streams in segments because of it making me pas out
@@FrarmerFrank their likely the same
You can kind of tell that Gura is rather nostalgic about her past endeavours in the V-tuber industry by the way that she hesitated for a second. I'm happy for her nonetheless, because I heard that she was struggling to make ends meet as Senzawa
aw man. this is gonna make me cry.
THIS IS SO FUCKING PRECIOUS WTF
She went on a nostalgia trip for two seconds
i like how ame said "in my dream" that cover up was such a passing comment to me 2 years ago. now i know
Wait a minute. What if Mumei is Sensawa who took a break, realised everyone was thinking she was gura, then decided fuck it, I'll join in and troll everyone.
this is a joke
This is big brain right her
@@Alb410 yeah but even if I know you’re joking I wanna point out that Mumei’s Shachimu
The little flashback, the reaction and the music is a perfect combination.
Can't wait for part 3
This is like asking Joji to be frank.