YNW Melly Juror Breaks Silence, Reveals Guilty Votes in Double Murder Mistrial
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- A juror who deliberated on whether YNW Melly was guilty of murdering his two friends broke their silence just two weeks after the judge declared a mistrial in the rapper’s double murder case. The former juror detailed how the jury became deadlocked after more than 14 hours of deliberations full of chaos, yelling, and anger. The Law&Crime Network’s Angenette Levy breaks down how many jurors thought Melly was guilty and why the jury could not reach a decision.
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Wow, what a mess. Hopefully the next jury is more mature and level headed.
It’s one person
@@fazediamond5671clearly you don’t know how an unanimous jury works…
There’s never gonna be a verdict. The case is publicized and he’s a famous rapper. There just will never be an agreement
Never gonna happen
@@keelysexton nope
If this was a normal person - he woulda been found guilty and sentenced already 🤷🏿♂️.
Exactly money prolongs things and talks.
That's what I'm saying
Ikr that's what I sayin
😂 the criminal system loves letting guilty people walk. And slams innocent people.
True
Agreed Sad it's like the wicked gets reqarded no remorse for victims and the wicked enjoy living and breathing sad world
@@debeenanderson6834 whats more sad is that everyone thats saying not guilty knows deep down he did it but wants him free so they gonna say not enough evidence innocent until proven guilty. Im a fan of melly tbh but justice must be served to anyone who takes another's life its literally in the bible but i dont think he should get the death penalty since we must not take things so far but atleast he'll need to do some time frl , and even bortlen who helped shoot up the car to cover the evidence needs to do some time aswell. Imo they should try both of them sametime and pressure them to tell on each other either way they both got to do time
Innocent till proven guilty. The prosecution team did a horrible job at gathering any good “evidence” no DNA, no motive, nothing points to him
@@bonerstoner703 this, it reminds me of the Casey Anthony case. Where more then likely that persons quilty, but i would never convict a fellow man on circumstantial evidence
If, as a potential juror, you lie to the judge during your interview you should be charged with perjury. The juror is responsible for perverting the course of justice.
I would like to see this juror do an interview and explain her decision. I also wish the mother didn’t start spreading false information, ain’t no reason to spread that info because once he gets a retrial we’ll know exactly which way the previous jury was leaning.
All she knows is how to cause trouble and mess things up for everyone. She has been doing it her whole life whenever she has had the chance
She got paid.
There you go
@@richardlongmore9301She's the catalyst that caused this whole situation. It's absolutely horrible.
Ofc it was a woman
Easy to blame the mother but it’s clear she got that from someone else … she just ran with it , the only person to blame here is the prosecutor who deliberately made numerous attempts to slide evidence that was stricken down by the judge and you want them to carry the burden of sending him to death row, I’m glad that woman had influenced the case .
YNW MELLY DOES NOT DESERVE JAIL
That's crazy regarding jury bullying
The fact that this case isnt finished yet is crazy
@@InMyOwnWrld still not finished..
Like I said in when the judge declared mistrial this was the one melly needed to win because he is for sure losing the retrial. Every defense lawyer that has spoken on this trial said the prosecution had enough evidence to get a guilty verdict and now we know it was stopped by someone who wasn't in the right mental space to be on this case.
Yupp smdh
Deep !! Spot on !
someone got paid 😮
This new trial will hurt Melly more. Know the prosecution know the defense tactics
@@pineapplesplash9166It’ll also help him they know the strategy now.
This juror who wanted to get him off may have just gotten him a higher charge and sentence.
I'm in no way arguing with what you're saying, I'm just wondering how so? And I hope so 😂
@@victorialinndbecause this jury voted manslaughter not murder…but the next jury may vote guilty again but guilty of murder.
or this is some made up story by the state? open your eyes.
One juror making up a story, sounds like bs to me.
A higher charge than double life without parole 🤣
@@backgroundsoundmusic3078 I think you need to open yours. And I think it's great that they spoke out because at the end of the day there are families waiting for justice and there are people who could be preventing that from happening by improper behaviour as a juror.
Looking back it makes total sense. His mom went on social media talking about 9-3 for not guilty. Naturally I assumed the exact opposite is true. Melly lied to detectives and his mom is out here lying to the public for whatever reason.
How did Melly lie to detectives when he didn't even talk to them?
@@JastmiiLOOK, YOU KNOW HE KILLED HIS TWO FRIENDS! Grow up, use your 🧠…it’s not illegal to use it. MELLY IS NOT SPEAKING BECAUSE HE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE PROSECUTORS! Think
@@Jastmii he didn’t testify in open court but his story about switching cars & the drive-by are proven lies
@@SuaveCityGear I'm just saying that Melly never gave official statement
@@Jastmii That alone is pretty suspicious when you've been victim of a drive by
Sounds to me like defense team had a juror put in place . This needs to be investigated 100%. Listening to jurors speaking out! They were bullied
Seriously. That juror’s behaviour is insanely suspicious.
he’s a rapper lmao there’s always gonna be someone like that
Defense doesn’t pick the jury
The defense team had a jury put employees? The f*** does that even mean?
If you're talking about the one juror who got a text from his coworker saying he saw them on the live stream, it obviously didn't make him biased at all and the co-worker is a lying sack of crap
That woman caused a mistrial by her conduct..they should have sacked her and brought in an alternate..was that a possibility..wow what a mess
Same thing happened here in MA. Cop was murdered, 1 woman juror refused to deliberate. ( Young girl) So, mistrial. Was she punished nope! If these other jurors knew this woman was going to vote not guilty from the beginning why didn't they call her out? Such a waste of time and money. Those poor family members have to sit through another trial
I don't know why the jurors didn't inform the judge this was happening.
@@justtubing767exactly what I was thinking, seems abit strange that this is being talked about now, and not while they were in court 😂😂😂
@@susanconstantino9310you can’t talk to other jurors about the case until deliberations. Generally once the 12 out of whatever are pick that’s it unless circumstances not related to the case occur where you need removed (Ex. illness) it would be unfair to both sides if you just kicked someone because they didn’t agree with everyone else that would be very appealable.
@ldcow3948 I thought this juror just said they new from the beginning her train of thought? I do realize they can't discuss the case.
Juror was never voting guilty before trial started.
Ok?
🧢
No she's spot on , I said it soon as I observed all the details ,
Exactly
Right, and that is a reason not to accept her as a juror. They should have removed her at the beginning.
How is he going to get a fair trail from people from Florida now? I think most people from Florida have heard about this case unless you get some backwoods person with no internet that lives in the State. My grandma doesn't even watch court shows and this showed up on her recommendation to watch and she is 71. She now knows about Melly. Sad
He had a fair trial and only one juror screwed it !! Probably a pathetic fan but don’t worry he’s toast he ain’t getting away with his coward acts
Its absolutely insane the jurors are allowed to get away with this! If I were the victims families I would be appaled and outraged!
What does it matter guilty or innocent the other one is still dead.
@@deeveevideos It matters bc the victim and families deserve justice for their murders.
@@mjarboesdf what is Justice look like to you? Justice is to be made whole. That will never happen here in this life.
Get away with what?
@@yeahright5227 thank you
I wish that jury member would’ve spoke up during the deliberations and let the judge know what was going on. They would’ve threw that you remember out and put a new one in
I'm sure It was brought up, Its probably the same juror that was caught with a apple watch.
They might not have been thrown out seeing as a juror who allegedly had an Apple Watch was not thrown out.
I think the jury was biased both ways.
There appeared to be enough circumstantial evidence to make Jamel appear guilty. But there was no hard evidence, no motive and no proof that he is guilty.
That’s the problem, that fact that the majority of the jury could be swayed to a definitive guilty verdict in the absence of hard evidence and proof beyond a shadow of a doubt shows that there was latent bias already present (no I am not a Melly fan).
The reality is even if we all know Melly is guilty that isn’t the legal standard which the court uses as a basis for conviction. The system is reliant on the jury to comply with the legal standard for conviction. However, people have their own motives, vendettas and biases clouding their judgement.
Melly by no means looks innocent. If it were down to the public vote he would probably be found guilty. But still there’s doubts to be had. Because the prosecution was flawed, their tactics were underhanded, some of their witnesses had issues, the ‘gang expert’ violated Jamel’s right to see the face of his accuser by hiding under a balaclava, the prosecution has been accused of threatening, bullying and harassing a number of their witnesses into taking the stand and testifying against Melly when they otherwise wouldn’t have.
They lacked solid evidence.
Maybe because it's not true, and they have made this up? they pulled the jury, they still agreed this was their decision and what they wanted. They could of spoke up them. Seems like some one just trying for attention imo.
@@goaway9977 you obviously haven’t followed a lot of trials. Actually, they have done that before if other jurors complain and have a volatile member that is a member of the jury I’ve seen it done several times.
@@ChillingWithMel22 Not during deliberations. You can't even put in an alternate if deliberations have already started.
Why would his mom get me exited like that SMH🤦
You're crazy lol🤡🤡
Manslaughter for the murder of 2 defenseless people?! That jury had no idea wth they were doing in there, im hopeful that the next jury will get it right.
Theres simply not enough evidence for Murder 1 charge. People need to understand emotions or opinions have no place in deciding a verdict. Any bias formed should be on the basis of the evidence provided, not the whims of appearance(s) circumstamce or public opinon. The jury was on the right track with 'manslaughter', IF they were leaning towards a guilty verdict; as it is a good compromise given that he's already done 5 years, and was probably was involved, but there is not enough evidence to prove he pulled the trigger.
they did that to try to please the one juror
@@charlottekalz7293 there's no reports that the other jurors did that to satisfy 1 juror. People are running with headlines and making/spreading rumours.
@@Prince.Mykal.Vision they need more evidence. The man’s dna wasn’t even on the murder weapon.
@@kidjiujitsu i could be wrong, but didn't they fail to find the weapon?
*"YNW SACK CHASER"* 😂😂😂🤣🤣😭😭😭💀💀💀
I'm sorry, but I wasn't ready to hear that in an official news capacity and there's no way I'm the only one!😂
@@Wolf-Marlon23 nut sak chaser
It's funny if you're 10
So because she believes he is innocent and was willing to fight for what she believes she is crazy? She was obviously able to sway two others, were they crazy or just willing to listen? This is what is supposed to happen. Both sides should be heard and she wasnt being heard.
FACTS‼️💯💯💯
i think that they were just agreeing with guilty because everyone else thought so
I agree. Everyone is saying 11-1, but that is just not the case even though deliberation might have started like that. Maybe that one "crazy" juror was able to point out some pot holes in the evidence that some of the others missed. This is what happens when deliberation. Those other 2 jurors might have already been on the fence about the verdict in the beginning too
Even the fact that they were voting for manslaughter is really unsettling. What we saw in that car was nothin short of first degree no matter WHO anyone thinks did it. Those two were murdered in cold blood and if they find him guilty none of OUR opinions are going to affect that 😘
They could have treated him in the car n he killed them . Who know what really happened. That’s why I think they went with manslaughter . It’s wasn’t it dry
@@Blocheadkayg u mean threaten? And if so one of them was sleeping when he died
The state threw that manslaughter charge in to save their own skin. This was straight out 1st murder not unintentional, with that being said the verdict sounds like it would have been a not guilty or hung jury.
@@LesRed lol no, it really doesn't. It was 11-1. A lot of people think he's guilty.
@@victorialinnd if the jury were arguing over manslaughter what does that tell you
hear me out.. we should listen to everyone speak if we want to form opinions though. not saying she's not accurate but we should hear all sides thats jus me
People get very upset when they do not hear the outcome they are expecting but do not understand that they are coming from the perspective of their homes, watching coverage on TV with experts commentary, with the ability to Google, with the influence of perspective of others discussing the case. The jury is instructed to go off ONLY the evidence. I don't think the investigators nor the prosecution did a good job whatsoever of making and presenting their case. I do not blame the juror for having questions or sticking to their opinion, everyone is not always going to see things the same way.. thats why we have juries in the first place! It makes the eventual conviction or acquittal less questionable, or less biased. If an agreement cannot be reached, neither outcome is the right one. I feel like if they did come back with a guilty verdict, it would be more on an emotional or instinctual grounds than based solely on the evidence. Which is their instruction by the court. That is in my opinion the fault of a poor investigation that was too easy for the defense to bring into question, as well as the prosecution for not doing a good job efficiently presenting or explaining the extremely compelling evidence they actually did have. If those men do not recieve justice it is on the hands of whoever put the case in incompetent hands. It probably SHOULD have been open and shut, but they fumbled it.. and the defense did a good job of using that to their advantage to create reasonable doubt
Bro this is a open and shut case; u can’t defy ballistics when they both clearly got shot from the left side in which I’m any case the bullet hole in the vehicle should be on the drive side, not the passenger side of the car. The prosecutor and the investigators have done a terrible job in this case. Best believe if he was here in Texas they would have been done with his trial and given him a life sentence
In the retrial, they need to drop these made up names and use their real names. It's absurd they did it to begin with.
Like they should do in every trial?
Yes ofcourse, the whole trial was s.... show . All pandard to these guys like they didn't do the unthinkable .
They use the aliases to make it easy for the jurors to put a face to text message evidence
Well the texts and most of their correspondence in the trial used their made up names
Please do so they’re in the mud days later😂
So one sided they tryna paint melly bad because the juror didn’t believe he did it
lol so you have no critical thinking ability. You’re the exact type of person that should never be in a jury. You really saw all the evidence that was clear as day that he did it- undeniable evidence- yet you want him set free. Deep down you know he’s guilty but you don’t care because you hate cops or whatever justification you have. Grow up. Your whole culture is a plague of absolutely blatant stupidity
Investigation on that single juror needs to happen asap… def payed off 100% smh….
Payed off and pulled the other 2 jurors to the side to let them in on the deal
@@cipherP9 i see what you did there lol
it’s gonna be very wild to see another trial. this case is very popular, it’s all over different social media platforms. There’s been many conspiracies involving the case and the fact the entire trial was live streamed and is there still! Young and old are keeping up with this case, i hope the next jury doesn’t have any knowledge or little knowledge about the previous trial
The chances of people that are selected for jury duty not knowing about the case is very unlikely. I was wondering how they were gonna go about that as well
Fun fact, I know nothing about this case. I have heard of it but I don’t even know what’s going on.
What’s conspiracy about this case? 🧐
@@Dw-wv1sma lot lmao
@@RadDadisRadyeah but when you’re talking about selecting people that live in the same area as him it’s a different story
So this juror spoke with a local Tv station in Florida and there’s no video or article? 🗣 CAPPPP
it makes sense why they stopped deliberating after 1 day. they had a legit child in the jury.
This is one of many things I don’t like about the justice system. Jury trials are a joke. Ppl who did commit the crime has a better chance of beating the case but their punishment is worse if they’re going guilty because they’ll decide what it should be
He’s guilty. They will get him. That’s also juror misconduct. He’s going to prison. Where he belongs.
Look how angry you are 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Well said !! He’s toast and I can’t wait to see him cry 😂😂😂
@@OG_Clarkey lol. Look how projective you are. It’s you are that are angry. I don’t care about trash. It doesn’t affect me in any way. I just like to see murderers go down. What you got now cupcake?
Hopefully
Lock him up
Unoriginal
@@fazediamond5671u have no brain🤡
He already is locked up he been locked up for 4 years
He is locked up and he better get used to it because he isn't going anywhere.
I don’t believe whoever that juror is. Don’t make sense to say all this, now the trial is done
That is insane!!!
The paperwork says a lot different. These people believe anything look deeper into it 9 innocent 3 guilty
🤣🤣 🤡 Go cry into your pillow tonight 🍼
So it was 11-1. One juror who had to be a fan got others on her side.
your chanel may be all about that but lord there are some bad cristians you need to oray bc your not ok. what the heck
In a deliberation there are conversations as they work through the evidence. You cannot expect for everyone to have the same conclusion at the end of deliberation versus when they started. With that being said, what I got from this was 1 very stubborn outspoken juror was able to point out certain pot holes in the evidence and sway 2 other jurors if reasonable doubt. This my friend is a 9 - 3 at the end of the day. All it takes is 1 juror to bring up a convincing analysis based on what they have seen. It was a tricky trial, even for me when the witness said he switched cars so it is definitely easy to see a few people being on the fence
Why is this jurior commenting on an ongoing mistrial? Whether melly gets convicted or not this is ruining his chance of a fair trail.
These jurors won’t be on the jury for the next trial nothing she says will impact the next jury…🤦🏽♂️
@@pj8847 This a high profile televised case for the state of Florida. This will definitely have an impact on the outcome of his case. It's going difficult finding jurors who know nothing about the case.
They need to do a probe on her accounts
Right
Juror misconduct
You can’t go against the shooting reconstruction people .forensics can’t be beat
They’re going to get him! That prosecution team is not gonna let him beat them twice! They’re going to get him this second time
They weren't even defeated. It wasn't a win nor a loss.
@@AkonFenty1992 in their eyes! There shouldn’t be a second trial!
and who knows if they heard this new breaking news cuz it’s all over the news now, it’s not just on social media, I just finish watching it on CNN
@@jeromewilliams097it shouldn't your right bc the vote count was 9-3 in favor guilty it was 11-1 and someone got 2 people to change their minds horrible jury
@@hypercombos1488 yup! and like they said, everyone and everything on this next go round will new! He’s guilty! And throwing his friend who helped him under the bus. Only proves that he was the one and not the friend! This time around, they’re both being held together in this! And someone is going to tell!
That juror should be locked up for that, they should charge that reckless juror with tampering or something especially since this case was a high profile case.
This also shows us what type of woman melly mother is and what else has she lied about?
You believe everything you hear? This is one lady saying that... lol.
@@backgroundsoundmusic3078 yea bc it was a juror lol, somebody who was actually there
@@honestlyspeaking905Yeah, I also feel in hearing that it was going to be 11-1 for manslaughter means they found him guilty but were going for the lesser charge of anything presented other than not guilty. That sways me to believe the juror is telling the truth. If she said all but one of us were going with first degree or the death penalty, I'd absolutely question it.
@@victorialinnd I know melly would be really hurt if the next jury find him guilty of 1st degree murder instead of manslaughter
I still put the WHOLE thing on the DA’s office.
They didn’t strike HER from the jury!
They tried to tie the murders into gang activity in order to put the Death Penalty on the table.
They could’ve tried Melly and Bortlen TOGETHER under MURDER with both facing LIFE without vs the DP.
The prosecutor chosen to handle the states case SUCKED 😖
Hopefully they get it RIGHT next time around to ensure justice for the victims families
I hope they try it with death on the table. The state's case was pretty strong.
The prosecutor was great lol she got a 10-1 guilty until the psycho juror threw their tantrum
Agreed!
@@Bertone4884 👀
Bruuuuh…
She was faaaar from great.
It was just the evidence pretty much spoke for itself.
Had she been GREAT, she would’ve had a strong closing explaining the case very simply without the odd moments like bringing back the “coding” explanation/scenario (that was TERRIBLE the first time around) and not talking to the jurors as if these guys could be THEIR kids was a huge miss as well as not taking the time to just simply explain that her job and her teams job
is to seek JUSTICE for the family of the deceased.
THAT may have actually swayed even the simplest of minds.
She was clearly hired because she passed the bar, not because she actually has SKILL or TALENT
Definitely 1.75/5 performance or a “27% Fresh” critics score on Rotten Tomatoes 🍅
Yeah but that has nothing to do with this topic
If you know how too do your research Jamie was right it was 9-3 not 3-9, again we love media portraying false information for money from the state prosecuting.
Dude won’t get off next time. The thing is she was bias and should have been reported for this. What she did was manipulation. They should have replaced her or called a mistrial right away. What a waste of time.
Maybe the gods will bless melly with another Bad jury you never know
@@jibes2239doubt god will help somebody that killed 2 people
Dude are you serious? Any logical person would say he likely did it but he should obviously be found not guilty. There are hundreds of reasonable doubts in this case and absolutely no definitive evidence that he did it. No video, DNA, or even a motive. He doesn't need to prove himself innocent. Court isn't supposed to be who you feel like most likely did it or if they most likely did it. It has to be without any single possible doubt. Just the fact there is no hard evidence showing he shot the gun is a reasonable enough doubt to say it's possible he didn't do it. Only a smooth brain who is so ignorant they should rissapear would say that he did it without any single doubt. I'm open to hearing your argument here, but I've seen way more people biased against him than for him. I don't see how any semi intelligent person could say he should be found guilty in court. Even if he most likely did it and you feel like he did it for sure, we still need to uphold our laws and rights for everyone. The prosecution and all the investigations have millions and even billions of dollars or manpower and technology to prove stuff and they barely have anything. That says something when you consider the little evidence they have.
@@ObamanableSnowman he will be found guilty. I guess you didn’t listen to any of the trial. 🤣
@@ObamanableSnowman if melly beats the charge they might get melly later on a R.I.C.O its a small possiblity but its still out there.
Why are people so angry at the jurors? A Jury is to decide individually with a goal of a unanimous decision as a group. If one is to just go with the flow of others, then a jury would consist of one person. Not everyone being tried is guilty and not every jury makes the right decision. I applaud them for thinking for themselves and standing by their decision to not be swayed by the majority of other jurors. A lot of innocent people go to prison because a juror with a thought different than the majority of jurors are afraid to go against the majority and let others think for them.
If a juror is just going against the vote cause she wants to go against the system, she is a horrible juror. They are asked to decide whether a person is guilty or not on the basis of the findings and things presented. Not their personal motivations.
I think it was whoever had the watch I think she was being paid off as well cause why the lawyer try so hard to convince the judge having a Apple Watch was insignificant and that it couldn’t work without the phone even though it could and when the judge tells them show your wrist and it’s zero watches why would someone just make that up that it’s someone with a Apple Watch then tryna pull a few to the side to convince him not to say he’s guilty and what made them change their mind other then some money idk I’m just guessing at this point lol
I bet all 3 of those jurors fly on Spirit Airlines..🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️
Gives Cattle Class a new meaning
Its going to take months to find a jury in florida that doesnt know about this case.
Why do people keep saying that!! They pick the jury from within the county and everyone in broward County knows about this case since day one
find and listen to Jay Fly Red - Will You Remember after this.........s
0:46 that woman said: 🦆 🦆🦆
Wow Melly mother is a lie smh & it seem like that one person was paid off. Mellly was found guilty 11-1 until that one person pulled 2 people to the side & convince them to change there mind at the last minute but he was still found 9-3 guilty for murder
WHERE IS JUROR I WANT TO HEAR FROM HIM! BLOCK HIS FACE OUT!! HE SHOULD HAVE SENT A NOTE TO THE JUDGE ABOUT THE WOMAN!! BET HE WAS THE ONE WITH THE APPLE WATCH! AND SHE WAS THE WHO SENT THE NOTE TO JUDGE ABOUT SOMEONE HAVING THE WATCH! I KNEW FROM THEN NO UNITY IN THE.JURY ROOM!!
😂😂😂👌🏻
Its supposed to be a fair trial seems to me like they tried to pressure her to sentencing a man to prison. If she feels he’s innocent thats her opinion
How is everyone so sure that this juror, speaking out, is telling the truth?!
The ones that laugh over these situations are the most guilty
A fair trial is now out of the question
Not true and he will be given a fair trial.
@@justtubing767I think they mean everyone heard abou this case so now it’ll be unfair because of that
@ravensflock9065 the last jury panel knew about this case they pick the jury with in the county everyone in broward County knows about this case since the day of the homicide, mistrials are very common there's a homicide case in Atlanta that's on it's 10th mistrial
Right, he’s got a lot of fans, especially in Florida. There’s not a chance he’ll get a fair trial now, the algorithm is sending these clips to everyone. My mom who is in her 50’s and doesn’t listen to Melly, is seeing these clips on her feeds on social media. It’s done
If they dropped his charges to a lower charges they have nothing on him they just want a conviction for the wrongfully incarceration
Yeah. It's he shot them or he didn't
They need to bring in jurors from outside of Florida
i think the jurors have to reside in the county where the trial is taking place. i think it has to do with the right to have a jury of his peers
How are they going to accommodate them?
At this point we don’t know what to believe. This case was botched from the beginning. And now it’s an anonymous unverified juror putting out more unverified information. On top of an inexperienced detective and seems to me an inexperienced prosecutor who was letting her emotions override the case she was trying to prove. This case is hands down the worst case in televised history.
Believe the evidence
I completely agree, especially on the inadequate prosecution. It reminded me of a local unseasoned public defender as opposed to the kind of lawyer they usually have in a high profile case like this, let alone it being televised. 🥴
I personally believe that he did it, but I simultaneously don't think the prosecution proved it beyond a reasonable doubt. I believe the evidence was not as good as it ideally should/could have been, but more than that I think that the right lawyer could have gotten the conviction with what they have. though with the evidence alone I do think they did prove that whoever was in the backseat is the shooter... but I don't think objectively that they proved beyond a reasonable doubt that HE was the person in the backseat. The right lawyer, in my opinion, could have sold it that he was. (a REALLY good lawyer could convince us of it even if he was never there lol😂)
The evidence is clear tho.
Pretty clear what happened if you take your emotions out of it...look past all the riff raff
unfortunately it only takes one bad juror
Wow, this jury was totally incompetent. Holy sh1t. This is some scary stuff. Where did the manslaughter charge come from? 😆 Insane. The woman who wanted acquittal also what a piece of work. I hope the next jury is sane in the brain.
They said she was a fan. Or they called her incompetent at least which is a similar thing.
I don’t know where they got manslaughter from that won’t even part of the case
@@ogcleanup2053they added that at the last minute
We are talking about Broward County right? LOL.
But The jurors Were NOT Supposed To come To a decision Together All Votes Are Supposed To Be Separate U are Not Supposed To come To a Conclusion on with EACH OTHER The Judge Said You Do not Speak With ANYONE ABOUT THE CASE
They tried to railroad melly but thankfully those jurors had different opinions
😂11 of them said he was guilty only 1 had a an issue with the police department period so no matter what, she wasn’t going to find him guilty as it was stated by her on day 1 of the trial.
Nobody on this earth is railroading Melly, we didn’t put the gun in his hand or tell him to kill his friends like that so stop putting his fault on everyone but him.
Be a fan that’s fine but don’t 🧢 like we did this to him. He put hisself in this situation & regardless of court or jail he gone have to answer to God about what he done.
No accountability from him or his fans which is sick. It’s okay for him to kill people but what about them men families, they mothers & fathers? They siblings?
Y’all think everything is a joke until it’s your family member that’s been murdered & now you want justice.
A lot of us including myself who lost a brother last year know how it feels.
May god have mercy on you & others who think like you.
@@goated3285 actually 3
@@jamaalcurry8990and they probably deserved it coming from your bloodline of savages 😩
@@jamaalcurry89909-3 still ain't even close lol you want justice for all rappers killed tho huh? You were sure xxx killers were guilty huh. Lol if sak n juvy had this amount of evidence on them killing melly I promise you wouldn't be in their side. Ur a sheep
Dudes guilty as sin
This could be the same juror who lied saying someone had a apple watch. So this could also be a lie
This is why the justice system is a joke I hope I never have to go back around those court type ppl.
Same my dude. God bless
This is america 🐵🐵🐵
Lock that juror up
It was 11-1 smh
there should be separate voting booths to keep all 12 separately
He didn’t want to split that $500k.
9-3 is pretty alarming. Next might get him outta there.
Convict this clown.
What happened to the 8-4 vote law in Florida someone explains this to me and how come it doesn’t Apply in this case
That only applied if they was finding him guilty of capital murder giving him the death penalty
@@jesumyne8694 ok thanks
Why Melly moms lie like that tho dawg
The potential Manslaughter verdict is going over a lot of your heads. That’s the wildest component of this entire story.
what those that mean in simpler terms
@@youngjg1084 Google.
Definitely guilty. You need a honest jury.
There no evidence
@cliqe1233 just a video of him getting into the seat the shots were fired from 😂🤣
@@internetfam902that’s not enough to convict for first degree murder
@@Cingofswat12 … plenty of circumstantial evidence, I mean dont you find it incriminating at all that he was one of the last people seen with the victims in their last hours and he claimed not being with them until video showed otherwise. Then his phone pinged off the cell towers which showed he was at the location when he’s saying he wasn’t.
People arnt honest
That 1 juror needs to be investigated something fishy is going on here
How could she pass the juror test?
Exactly .Smdh
Smh this is longest case ever
Melly Manson
If she saying that 1 person was with melly then she is working for the prosecutors obviously 🤦🏽♂️ their dirty asf and they still using the same media tactics they been using with no evidence
The fan of the rapper in the jury is the one who didn't pay attention to the evidence.
@@AkonFenty1992 did you even bother to read my comment? The source of your information is a juror who is working for the prosecutors
I want to know why this juror has gone to a news station to talk about this, but didn’t bother to speak up in court about this behaviour happening, seems rather fishy if I’m being honest.
Was not the jury told not to discuss the case?
Manslaughter??? Nah, that juror might have made it worst for him
max 15 years for manslaughter still w
and he is 5 years already, then 10 years left
Every time I look at this dude I just see the Stepmother from the old school animated Cinderella…Its the hairstyle.
well I'm guessing, it be a guilty verdict on 1st degree, but probably negotiated with that defiant juror to manslaughter? either way that is messed up. That juror lied to get on the jury for sure!
He is one creepy dude 😵💫
His momma better be quiet knowing the feds be all over this internet
Sounds like she was a Melly fan
Jurors were not and are not supposed to have knowledge on the case. This is the courts error on the jury selection they had chosen and by this happeneing it is more reason for mellys lawyers to push for a dismissal and to clear their clients record of any murder charges. The courts have a jury and juror who is knowledgable of the case and unprofessional and showing aggressive violent outbursts and behavior and this is the courts selection of jurors. This is just a joke coming from the state and judge murphy is sitting back allowing this all to go on in his courtroom, what a judge. I wouldnt be allowing this to go on in my courtroom if i was the judge and with how much tampering and botched holes there is in this case coming from the prosecutor and detectives and including the jury i would have dismissed it before the emberassment of the jurors all of them not just the one as the others were acting the same way and yelling and screaming and fighting back so they are all in the same boat not just the one lady they wanted to single out. It takes two or more to fight... and the jurors should not be stalking mellys moms posts during deliberation. This is illegal coming from the state... and classifies for the motion of a dismissal due to the courts multiple errors and unprofessionalism. Jurors should also not be making comments back in response to mellys mothers shared social media posts. If i was adelstein i would make a motion for a dismissal due to this shenanigans. -YuuDunno
The way he was laughing is absolutely disgusting. I can’t even believe anyone even wants to be his lawyer if you committed murder you need to be locked up no questions asked.
I knew that mother had to be lying
What the jury was smokin on all evidence proved to b guilty stop playin games if MELLY wasn't a rapper he would've been guilty already
By October none of us on social media will even care who mebby is.
His 15 minutes are up...NEXT
This is what you get when you
1. Have 9/12 jurors as female.
2. televise trial
3. Don't sequester jury
Find it highly irresponsible to talk about the vote tally
Y’alll want to kill melly but kept Dylan Roof Alive huh?
Put your hands on your ankles Milly.
He’s obviously guilty. That’s the crzy part about it.
Didn’t DeSantis just pass a law before the trial that said a 8-4 guilty verdict in the death penalty is guilty?
8-4 for death penalty after convicted. FL still requires a unanimous jury for a guilty verdict.
at this point the jury was only voting to acquit or convict which always has required a unanimous decision to render the verdict. its only during the penalty phase after a guilty verdict that the jury vote requires a 8-4 vote for the death penalty to be imposed
There wasn’t enough evidence to convict for murder. They were voting manslaughter
Who says that juror was telling the truth either
Exactly.
Would you rather believe melly mom or someone who is one of the 12 to determine melly faith of the jury
@@Theguy4532 don’t have to believe either
My thoughts as well. This is a tactic by the ego driven prosecutor
@@liss.cole.
And his delusional mother? She definitely did not have an interest in spreading lies and she couldn’t even coordinate with her other son who said it was 10-2. Oh how intelligent that family is.
unless we see a vote count on paper this is all hear-say and people in they feelings. where this juror at if they saying all this?
Melly wearing those grillz in court doesn’t help him much😂