Fun fact: Roll has an infinite, sort of, it requires using her air-throw and the only way for the opponent to escape is to tech out of the throw, or tech roll from the ground! Assist is need too if I remember correctly!
@@Protosilver97 He's beat Justin before. It's highly unlike, but it CAN/DOES happen once in a blue moon. In fact, he's V good with Omega Red. Honestly, if he could play the other chars, as good as he does Omega Red, I think he would do MUCH better against Justin
The difference between someone new to fighting games and someone experienced is that a new player will lose twice and get pissed off and stop playing, while an experienced player can get their ass handed to them tens of times in a row and still have fun. JMCrofts is one of the best examples of this I can think of. I've watched a few MvC2 videos of him against Justin and no matter how badly he is losing you can tell he is legit having a good time and in fact is happy for his opponent who won.
@@MarginalSC well of course. But I just mean in general. And even still, those who are experienced (usually) understand that just because you’re frustrated and losing doesn’t mean that the game is bad or something is unfair (though when those with experience do get mad about those things as well, it’s usually justified, as opposed to a new player who often complain about things being broken that are usually underwhelming in higher levels of play), and they move on and try another match or another strategy. New players will often throw up a “this game sucks I don’t wanna play anymore” wall because they’re salty and can’t see that the only way to get better is to move past the losses. I bet JM was at least a little frustrated throughout the video at points even; who wouldn’t be? He just got his ass kicked by Roll. But he also knows that it’s just a game and you don’t get better by throwing a fit. In general, experienced players will usually be happy with a loss because they had a fun game.
This video pretty much cements what I have been feeling all along. If you have Doom AA, you can make almost any point character viable. The Ice Beam was just a bonus. Another lock down assist. Still awesome to see Justin piece something together from what would potentially be a bum ass team.
that mega man music in the intro really took me back! i love your channel for the fighting games nostalgia but damn that music hit me in the childhood feels bro! thank you so much! im going through and watching all of your videos!😊
LOL, that's the team I use. Occassionally, I use Blackheart as well. You'd be surprised as to how many times people get hit by Roll Buster Assist when they're too distracted by BH Jump+Demons.
I was surprised when I heard and saw Roll be viable in Tatsunoko vs Capcom cause I always picture her as the gimmick/joke character. Even in the Megaman gacha game Megaman X Dive she seems like a gimmick
Justin don't forget on roll hold down lk lk fk then fire ball. 🔥 it all connects. And when you take soccer ⚽️ out. You can slide kick it to avoid head or body attacks. Also kick soccer ⚽️ then air combo the ball will hit someone at the same time in air combo good luck 👍
So do you also go by Just Wong? I just think that would be really cool if somebody saw you tear it up in the arcade and scoped you out and say "that's Just Wong."
TBF with regards to Justin, Roll isn't doing THAT much heavy lifting. There's a HEAVY amount of support and play from Ice Man & Doom. Doubly so with the INSANE chip damage that Ice Man can give. Still, it IS really impresive, and shows what a Good Team & HIgh Skill can do for a Low Tier.
I think in all fairness every character should be able to have flight mode do I do feel every character can deal with it I feel at the very least every character should have are supers as well that way characters can't play lame and just fly away from Grapplers or stuff like that a Grappler can do flight mode and all their special moves in the air just like everyone else more particularly I think Super is in the air for every character would solve a lot of issues as well thank God you can't with normals to build meter anymore like you couldn't Marvel to I thought that was a bit ridiculous pretty unfair if you ask me
Would be dope if you could choose the sound effects for each individual character from any of the games have came come out for example if I was playing a guy online and I pick type of fighting sound effects I could still hear them on Street Fighter 5 and so can my opponent online they would hear me using the original Tiger Uppercut sound effects or Dragon punch sound effects from Street Fighter 1 LOL I honestly love the street fighter original Street Fighter 2 hyper fighting sound effects. They were hilarious even if you could just hear them on your screen alone your opponent doesn't have to hear it but it would be funny to set the options so you can hear the sound effects that you honestly want to hear I thought the same thing from Mortal Kombat 11 that would have been awesome to hear the original Mortal Kombat 2 and 3 sound effects where I felt that the sound effects really we're unique from any other game they were very funny where is the first more, although they did have real funny sounds and that one it sounded like a stamp with a bunch of old kung fu movies rats part 2 and part 3 it felt like they kind of did more unique and hilarious sounds in that one but Raiden was funny as hell and part one we can't we can never forget that his sound during the Superman dive was hilarious I thought the speed of that should have stayed the same throughout all the games his Superman dive literally became useless it loses to drive on reaction Verizon the first game I felt like you couldn't really do anything with
Why don't advanced players wait out the super before DHCing when they're just chipping away at a blocking character? I see it happen literally all the time (I'm autistic and notice the patterns of the hyper combos very easily) so many games could've been different if they just got a couple extra pixels of chip damage in but then it can turn the entire match around.
I'd guess it's from preferring to do a bit less chip than risking waiting too long and messing up the DHC. Not a great answer, but risk aversion is a big part of human psychology 🤷♂️
@@Ash__Adler I totally understand and that is the only reason I can come up with...but doesn't that just naturally go away with better execution? I mean Im not good at this game like Jwong or Yipes or anyone but I haven't dropped a dhc in years against the computer except in training mode
In my opinion incident if they just didn't change the backgrounds during the Stone activation I say is my favorite Marvel's Capcom of all time I really didn't like that they change the controls from Par 3 at the par-3 was amazingly successful for them and as a company to change the controls all together and have people in a way relearn the game that they already kind of just finished enjoying and playing probably the most successful Marvel game of all time I thought that was a pretty ignorant move on the behalf of the company but I did like the addition of being able to bring the character in and kind of custom control what they do on the way in even if that means doing nothing but I really did think because of that it was my favorite Marvel I thought that was the best feature that Marvel ever had normally when you call a character in their set to a specific movement that you pick before the fight starts in Marvel infinite they're not set to anything or they could do anything that you want them to wish I loved the option of having really makes the combos extremely fun in the game no matter what scene you pick do I do think for beginner players they would probably want to have the preset special move already done for them in other words they pick what their character does and the character does it automatically for them I think a lot of beginner players would rather have that whereas me as a more advanced player like having total control over my sis character
Fun fact: Roll has an infinite, sort of, it requires using her air-throw and the only way for the opponent to escape is to tech out of the throw, or tech roll from the ground! Assist is need too if I remember correctly!
You know, Fightcade had a recent update and now Flycast has *ROLL* back. It was a sign
What does roll back mean
What if Justin and JM did a Marvel 2 Iron man? Like if a character died, they can't be played until you go through the whole roster.
This is a great idea for a tournament.
I wanna do an Ironman like this with my brother but he can't handle it prolly.
@@CMCAdvanced All the times
@@CMCAdvanced JM can win?
@@Protosilver97 He's beat Justin before. It's highly unlike, but it CAN/DOES happen once in a blue moon.
In fact, he's V good with Omega Red. Honestly, if he could play the other chars, as good as he does Omega Red, I think he would do MUCH better against Justin
I heard the "rock n rolled" joke on JM's channel. Was still funny the second time
JMCrofts always amazes me. "Oh I'm getting hit with an infinite! That's hype!" Cool!" That mental is nearly unshakeable.
He's one of the most positive people in the community
@@biohazard724 True, him and Max don't just flip when they lose. People need to learn more of that mentality
The difference between someone new to fighting games and someone experienced is that a new player will lose twice and get pissed off and stop playing, while an experienced player can get their ass handed to them tens of times in a row and still have fun. JMCrofts is one of the best examples of this I can think of. I've watched a few MvC2 videos of him against Justin and no matter how badly he is losing you can tell he is legit having a good time and in fact is happy for his opponent who won.
@@theintrinsicnerd6977 Nah. It's possible to be experienced and still get frustrated and angry.
@@MarginalSC well of course. But I just mean in general. And even still, those who are experienced (usually) understand that just because you’re frustrated and losing doesn’t mean that the game is bad or something is unfair (though when those with experience do get mad about those things as well, it’s usually justified, as opposed to a new player who often complain about things being broken that are usually underwhelming in higher levels of play), and they move on and try another match or another strategy. New players will often throw up a “this game sucks I don’t wanna play anymore” wall because they’re salty and can’t see that the only way to get better is to move past the losses. I bet JM was at least a little frustrated throughout the video at points even; who wouldn’t be? He just got his ass kicked by Roll. But he also knows that it’s just a game and you don’t get better by throwing a fit. In general, experienced players will usually be happy with a loss because they had a fun game.
Air Grab > Doom AA > Arctic Attack @ 01:02 ...That was godlike.
Never in my wildest dreams have I seen "ROLL" and "BROKEN" together in one sentence
This team winning most of the matches via chip damage. I'd like to call this team Team Chipotle.
I hate you for this.
You earned the 👍
honestly I loved listening to your hype man even before I realized it was JMCrofts commenting live as you were beating him with Roll
Juggernaut literally touched Justin twice and won 😂
I hope capcom does make this ratio system being able to pick the whole cast looks like fun.
Watched this on both channels and laughed both times at the Juggernaut kill at the end 🤣
You can really feel the Roll-mance between Justing and her.
😐.....😅
Hol up.
JustinCoachingPokken.Jpg
Wow that's crazy. You are making roll look like a good character!
Roll was definitely putting in some major work.
Roll honestly just looks like she’s playing the game in slow motion lmao. It’s so weird
I can’t un-see it now lol
This video pretty much cements what I have been feeling all along. If you have Doom AA, you can make almost any point character viable. The Ice Beam was just a bonus. Another lock down assist. Still awesome to see Justin piece something together from what would potentially be a bum ass team.
For sure! Let's be honest here, Doom & Ice Man are doing like 70-80% of the work here.
I always love seeing you and JM play on either of your channels
that mega man music in the intro really took me back! i love your channel for the fighting games nostalgia but damn that music hit me in the childhood feels bro! thank you so much! im going through and watching all of your videos!😊
Watching Hulk getting bodied by rolls awesome!😂
Only Justin Wong can make the weakest character in the game look like top tier XD
Is Servbot worse than Roll now?
No way! 😂
LOL, that's the team I use. Occassionally, I use Blackheart as well. You'd be surprised as to how many times people get hit by Roll Buster Assist when they're too distracted by BH Jump+Demons.
This is what we want to see, Thanks Justin
At least there was justice in the end 🙂
If a re-release of this game comes out, what would you fix Justin? Make Roll Viable? Make Ryu be able to combo better?
Nah don’t change any of the balance just include a ratio mode, preserving history is important
So basically you just beat JM Crofts with just a 2 character handicap
Rocks op.
I would like to see him use her in a tournament just to troll every one and still win
Just in time Fightcade gets GGPO Naomi
That Sun Chips damage is real.
Love your match’s keep up the great work
I really doubt ,but do you think it would be possible to do a touch to death with a team of all roll or all servbot
I WAS WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO MAKE THE "ROCK 'N' ROLL" JOKE XD
=)
You mad man, you actually did it. Bravo!
Juggernaut got one back with the glitch at the end. Very fun low tier matches here. Do more of them please!
i miss the little quirky jumps like Rolls, it adds character. Instead of everyone having the same high jump animations
jwong is godlike with any character in mvc2! still waiting on that team glitch tho! lol
I was surprised when I heard and saw Roll be viable in Tatsunoko vs Capcom cause I always picture her as the gimmick/joke character. Even in the Megaman gacha game Megaman X Dive she seems like a gimmick
Thanks to these two guys for listening to the comments. Exactly what I like to see.
Justin don't forget on roll hold down lk lk fk then fire ball. 🔥 it all connects. And when you take soccer ⚽️ out. You can slide kick it to avoid head or body attacks. Also kick soccer ⚽️ then air combo the ball will hit someone at the same time in air combo good luck 👍
Beating top tiers with Roll. Talk about a "Roll Reversal"
Love the bubbleman intro!!!
Her hit box is so small it’s hard to attack her
The world's first Roll main? Let's go, Justin?!
10:04 Juggs commeback❤
Should run Silver Samurai instead of Ice Man for the third. Then it's Electric Rock n Roll. Also, his shuriken ult chip damage is OD
So do you also go by Just Wong? I just think that would be really cool if somebody saw you tear it up in the arcade and scoped you out and say "that's Just Wong."
Jwong said "rock n roll" 💪🏿
The video randomly stopped working at 8:00 once, I thought it stopping when Roll got hit was part of a joke lol.
Head Crush, the Great Equalizer
Haha, the jokes when you and jmcrofts battle. You gave him the tip.. With an Egg Roll..😂
Im all here for the roll teams lmbo respect to justins roll... litterally why I even play her in mvc2 because she is bottom tier
Truly, this is the video I was waiting for!
Silver Samurai: Its a trap !!!
"how do you stop doom from doing this?" answer, play Blackheart
Jerome is just broken, he IS the tier list.
Green Team Win Streak: Guile, Dr Doom, Hulk. Up for the challenge?
Justin playing roll is fucking glorious
That was a GG...
That was a nice Rush.... down
Where are you playing Marvel vs Capcom 2? I want to get into it with good online!
TBF with regards to Justin, Roll isn't doing THAT much heavy lifting. There's a HEAVY amount of support and play from Ice Man & Doom. Doubly so with the INSANE chip damage that Ice Man can give.
Still, it IS really impresive, and shows what a Good Team & HIgh Skill can do for a Low Tier.
Leave to the God of MVC2 to find a Viable Roll team lmao
Its all fun and games till Juggernaut gets angry.
How to make Roll Viable in MvC2:
1.Pop in TvC.
2.Choose Roll.
3.Profit?
Rock and Roll. HILLARIORS
Hitting Roll from MvC2 with JUST THE TIP! (NOT CLICKBAIT)
Imagine Dunkirk trailer but with Roll’s plane super instead.
This is now the "RocknRoll" team.
Rock-'n'-roll Storm
Anytime i see jm croft video hes getting destroyed 😂😂😂
How do people not get that Roll's name is part of "Rock"man (Japanese) and Roll. Some of the other Megaman characters are musically named as well.
If anyone can pull it off, it’s you.
Its all about rock n roll
Place to get my daily MvC2 fix
Gangsta mode
Roll is wild.
Roll ⚽️ is pretty good used
Doom & Roll = Rock-'n'-roll
Need to hit up Larry Lurr on how to start up a Roll Agenda.
Will you do more Street Fighter X Tekken?
ROLLOU BUSTAH
lmfao jugglenuts XDDDDDD
I think in all fairness every character should be able to have flight mode do I do feel every character can deal with it I feel at the very least every character should have are supers as well that way characters can't play lame and just fly away from Grapplers or stuff like that a Grappler can do flight mode and all their special moves in the air just like everyone else more particularly I think Super is in the air for every character would solve a lot of issues as well thank God you can't with normals to build meter anymore like you couldn't Marvel to I thought that was a bit ridiculous pretty unfair if you ask me
Cute characters are my weakness.
You should call this team Rocks and Roll
Roll gets hell of chip damage with her super
Ever heard of Push Block 🤣? GG
that sick and that team should be called rock and roll lol also i don,t know bro ice man dr doom the problem roll is doing roll things :)
PLEASE PLAY UMVC3 PALLETE SWAPS! THE NEW CHARACTERS ARE SICK!
All ROLL, all the time!!!!!
Would be dope if you could choose the sound effects for each individual character from any of the games have came come out for example if I was playing a guy online and I pick type of fighting sound effects I could still hear them on Street Fighter 5 and so can my opponent online they would hear me using the original Tiger Uppercut sound effects or Dragon punch sound effects from Street Fighter 1 LOL I honestly love the street fighter original Street Fighter 2 hyper fighting sound effects. They were hilarious even if you could just hear them on your screen alone your opponent doesn't have to hear it but it would be funny to set the options so you can hear the sound effects that you honestly want to hear I thought the same thing from Mortal Kombat 11 that would have been awesome to hear the original Mortal Kombat 2 and 3 sound effects where I felt that the sound effects really we're unique from any other game they were very funny where is the first more, although they did have real funny sounds and that one it sounded like a stamp with a bunch of old kung fu movies rats part 2 and part 3 it felt like they kind of did more unique and hilarious sounds in that one but Raiden was funny as hell and part one we can't we can never forget that his sound during the Superman dive was hilarious I thought the speed of that should have stayed the same throughout all the games his Superman dive literally became useless it loses to drive on reaction Verizon the first game I felt like you couldn't really do anything with
What is Roll saying when she does the buster move
Why don't advanced players wait out the super before DHCing when they're just chipping away at a blocking character? I see it happen literally all the time (I'm autistic and notice the patterns of the hyper combos very easily) so many games could've been different if they just got a couple extra pixels of chip damage in but then it can turn the entire match around.
I'd guess it's from preferring to do a bit less chip than risking waiting too long and messing up the DHC. Not a great answer, but risk aversion is a big part of human psychology 🤷♂️
@@Ash__Adler JWong calls it being greedy when he drops the dhc
@@Ash__Adler I totally understand and that is the only reason I can come up with...but doesn't that just naturally go away with better execution? I mean Im not good at this game like Jwong or Yipes or anyone but I haven't dropped a dhc in years against the computer except in training mode
@@babytextor Mistakes happen. Like @Yutshot mentioned, even Justin messes up DHCs at times when he tries to squeeze out everything he can.
You can't spell troll without Roll
Juega con Khaos
The Roll team is not broken.. it works perfectly fine
JMcrofts I need get match with if i knew how get this game back ur killing me lol lol
In my opinion incident if they just didn't change the backgrounds during the Stone activation I say is my favorite Marvel's Capcom of all time I really didn't like that they change the controls from Par 3 at the par-3 was amazingly successful for them and as a company to change the controls all together and have people in a way relearn the game that they already kind of just finished enjoying and playing probably the most successful Marvel game of all time I thought that was a pretty ignorant move on the behalf of the company but I did like the addition of being able to bring the character in and kind of custom control what they do on the way in even if that means doing nothing but I really did think because of that it was my favorite Marvel I thought that was the best feature that Marvel ever had normally when you call a character in their set to a specific movement that you pick before the fight starts in Marvel infinite they're not set to anything or they could do anything that you want them to wish I loved the option of having really makes the combos extremely fun in the game no matter what scene you pick do I do think for beginner players they would probably want to have the preset special move already done for them in other words they pick what their character does and the character does it automatically for them I think a lot of beginner players would rather have that whereas me as a more advanced player like having total control over my sis character
Roll is the worst? Then throw her on a team with servbot and make it work plz
Its sad but I think I have a better Roll than J Wong LMAO
Justin STOP