Why Are You Leaving Japan?
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The hardest part for me, I lived in Japan for 8 years, was that people are not open…they hide their true feelings and you never really know where you stand. Many things in Japan are wonderful, but since human relationships are the most important part of life I think foreigners struggle.
Tatemae will eventually drive most foreigners in japan insane. I was in japan a few times. I had common japanese phrases ringing in my head for a few days after I left because these phrases are constantly repeated by everyone. Felt like a broken record in my head. With that been said, I like many aspects of Japan and I will be back again for holiday but never to live.
Even native Japanese like me suffer from how to have a strong connection with them.
Superficially they seem open but I don't even know the true feelings they have.
I mean It's not only your problem.😅
@@silveriver9 what phrases is that?
The fact that east Japan is very tatemae is the reason I struggle with it. On the other hand, going west I was blown away how kind people were
@@tsdfghjkl This is a joke, right?
Suppressing your true feelings/opinion is so normalized, people who are in discomfort or in need can not even express themselves, or maybe they don’t even know how.
I love japan, I was born and raised here, but it sure has this twisted, fucked up side of it.
Don’t be triggered and act like the Tatemae is a beautiful thing, we all know you go home and talk shit about everyone that you didn’t agree with. Don’t you think that’s unhealthy/toxic?
Real human communication is not suppressing your self and saying “either is fine”, it’s “agree to disagree” and moving on, or compromise and find a mutual ground.
That being said, I think it’s we japanese people that needs to learn from other countries, to once and finally “stand up for yourself”.
Japan is incredible to visit, but not good to live in as a foreigner.
I came to the same decision. I will visit Japan but I could never live there. I am sure it is a lovely country but it will take forever to get accustomed to their culture, I am sure I could if wanted to though but It would be too much work for me 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Japan is still one of my favorite countries to visit though 😊.
Best of both worlds if you live on one of the U.S. bases
@@neauxmad1048 real talk homie.
It depends on the person of course. I prefer living Japan much more than anywhere else.
What i'm sure of though, is that if don't adapt to the culture / find your place, it can become a pain to live there.
Also if marrying a Japanese partner it's important that both understand that even though the person moving there has to often make sacrifices, the Japanese partner has to meet him half way in many things too. It should be easy if things are laid out clearly in the beginning so they aren't a problem later.
I run my own company in Japan, so that takes care of 60% of headaches for me and my wife is understanding and i also understand and appreciate the benefits of Japane culture, so i'm living my dream life here. The one negative i have is that too many things are behind piles of paperwork and hours of bureaucracy that i previously got done in just 5 minutes from my iPhone in my country, but that's not a big issue for me.
Been living here in Japan for almost a decade as a foreigner and I feel fine 🤷♀️
*_I'm half-japanese and I lived and worked in Japan for 5 years from 2005 to 2010... then I left Japan and went back to Philippines for good because of severe sadness that I felt in the last few months of my stay in Japan. It's so hard to meet someone that you can socialize with consistently._*
Sorry to hear that bro
Sorry to hear!
i hope youve found happiness since
I agree! I lived in Japan for 6 months as an exchange student. I think if it wasn't for my foreign friends and classmates everything would have been so lonely and even when I got them sometimes I felt so sad I can't explain why.
お前の親に愚痴を言えよ@@yeswecan5554
idk why but the way Takashi ends his interviews so abruptly and walks away, it makes me laugh every time
His approach seems terribly rude as he abruptly ends the interview and leaves!
なるほど ここに文化の違いを発見しました。
タカシは時間を使わせてしまって、申し訳ないと思ってるんですよ。
なので、すぐ立ち去っているんです。
でも、他の社会では失礼になるのを学びました。
Right! Maybe that’s why that Korean girl said she doesn’t like Japanese guys. 😂
@@patriciak9685that’s probably due to his Japanese shyness. But it does come across a bit abrupt.
Yesssss, this has bugged me ever since I started watching his channel lmao
As a Japanese, Japan has a lot of closed-minded,dark and cold Japanese people, but Okinawa there are many people who are very friendly, not strict about time, and have their own pace, which is different from mainland Japan. Foreigners are recommended to come to Okinawa !!!!
I already did that and I have to warn all foreigners that depending on where you are in Okinawa the us bases has severely polarized the island. Near bases are ok , but outside then you'll be hated and treated as either a soldier or a tourist. I suspect as the bases wind down it'll get worse as I know the locals are actually sick of westerners despite needing them for cash. I was also shocked and sickened by the lack of local caring for the condition of the beaches and the environment in general.
@@ironhell808 Americans have a nasty reputation for noise pollution to ill manners like drunken disorder to high profile crimes like rape and murder and even the US airplanes killed many in past due to accident and still happens to this day like windows and parts falling off in ground from flying aircraft due to faults and so on and locals wants them out hence you have to understand from their POV and have neutral mindset and respect their decision.
Okinawa is very different from Japan. Just like Tokyo is very different from Japan.
Most of the youtubers that cover Japan live in Tokyo and act like Tokyo is Japan. It really isn't. It's a mega-city with the most multi-cultural region of Japan. It's a very bad example of what Japan is. But everyone wants to live there and they tend to forget that most of Japan even exists.
Thank for that info as I'm currently in Japan for 3 weeks on holiday I've found that even if you travel a bit outside of central Tokyo people seem a bit more happier and cheerful
@@ironhell808 You'd be surprised. I've lived in Okinawa for 5 years and there is a lot of pro-military sentiment due to China and North Korea constantly pushing people's buttons.
The bases are... problematic. But the Japanese army is building new bases in Okinawa despite local protests, which are usually just 10-20 old people with signs saying "No missiles!"
Most Japanese people I've talked to here do not like China and realize the need for a strong presence of both their own army and U.S. troops. Unfortunately U.S. troops are like any 20-something group of westerners. They don't know how to relax without a shit ton of alcohol and they act horribly.
I have lived here for 8 years, own a house, and have a Japanese wife. There's really two kinds of foreigners who live here: Ones who want to live their life like they did in their home country while still living in Japan, and ones who accept and understand Japanese culture, the do's and don'ts, and find their place within Japanese society. As a gaijin, you will ALWAYS be a gaijin no matter what. So if you can accept this, it honestly becomes very easy to live here. My advice for people who want to move to Japan and want to stay a long time would be one, whatever you do, at all costs, avoid working for a Japanese company as best you can. This is probably one of the hardest things for foreigners to do, as we all need money to survive and getting a job with a company is the easiest way to do that. Starting your own business or working for a close friend/spouses business is the best solution in my opinion. Japanese work culture is probably one of the worst things about Japan, so whatever you do, avoid working at a Japanese company, or if you can't don't stay at one for long and look for a way to support yourself. Second piece of advice would be to live in the countryside. Japanese cities are crowded, busy, and expensive, while the countryside is essentially the opposite. You will also find some of the friendliest and most welcoming people in all of Japan out in the countryside. Again, I've lived here for 8 years, and because I don't work for a Japanese company and I live in the countryside, I could never EVER see myself leaving. I love living here soo much and feel very very lucky to be able to happily live here.
ignorance is bliss
Shut up outsider.
@@propertymanager9149 That's why you failed to elaborate, eh? The big city is calling you, and it provably will make you more miserable.
@@Kaleki935 you ok?
Wouldn't have any difficulties accepting being a gaijin myself.
The Korean girl nailed it, if you don't have a clear goal, or a clear picture of what living in Japan actually is then you're gonna have your life drained. The advantage of foreigners is that they have a place to return, the locals don't have much of a choice, or they have a choice but I wouldn't recommend it.
not sure what she means by that. What goal? Most people go to experience a different culture, meet new people , try out new things, make some folding green while you are there. What more do you want ? You are not going to be running for Mayor or Governor of Tokyo, you won't be joining the Yakuza, you won't be starting up pachinko parlor or a ramen resturant. You literally have no political power as you cannot vote.
@@Bradgilliswhammymanmy new goal is going to be now to join the Yakuza!
@@noemiwinhammar7978 can I apply too?
Japanese people look much more happy than korean people
I could identify with what the Swedish guy said about never being accepted / being treated differently. I speak Japanese fluently (have now been speaking for 25 years) with a pretty natural accent. My wife is Japanese. I'm very familiar and comfortable with culture, customs, etc. I'm submissive, polite, and 空気読める. Nevertheless, I always felt I am considered always as 外人 first and foremost instead of being a human being named Justin. I lived there 2005-2009, so things may have changed a little, but I left Japan in 2009 at the height of severe anxiety for being treated as an alien so much every day. Japanese have a real difficulty in getting past the color of my skin and look of my face as non-Japanese. It's a very serious mental block for Japanese, sadly.
> my wife is Japanese
It's Good you're being mistreated. You're destroying what you love by mixing the two races together. Hopefully you will never have children because you'll rob them of their identity. This is why the Japanese give foreigners hard times because they want to preserve their cultural and ethnic identity. Those in the west mostly don't see it like this anymore because the governments promote ethnomasochism (the pleasure of destroying ones own people)
Things haven’t changed. Leaving after 4 years
Well you'll never be Japanese so why would you ever expect them to see you as Japanese? You will always be of foreign blood.
Well, that is what you get for having a name that sounds like Gai-jin, Justin.
What color is your skin?
“Why are you leaving?”
“So I can lose this look of impending doom and fear in my eyes”
That girl from Korea will do so much better when she goes back home, good luck to her and her new business.
@@L0-R3Zis that true? Can you explain more please?
@@luisbendezu6372she looked miserable and unhappy. Didn’t find anyone she could click with and met a wall when trying to better her life. For he, Japan was a polite prison.
No. That is her normal look.
Yeah especially because her reason wasn’t… real? Like all she had to do was switch her visa. Lots of people start businesses 2-3 years after initially working at combinis and going to language school.
@@aibao_eipariru_apriland lots of people don’t . Everyone has a different experience
“What I would not miss? …being a foreigner 😅 “ I felt that.
I actually miss that. Being an outsider has its perks
@@kinokodze I'm curious what would you say those perks are?
@@baeber well I’ve left another lengthy comment here, so I’m just gonna copy past it, if you don’t mind.
I lived in China for 5 years and I loved being an outsider in general! However it was not comfortable for work relations or business communication. BUT people have to admit that they get to enjoy a big chunk of culture and lifestyle without being bound by social rules that don’t apply to foreigners (like having family or a certain status for example). Most of these things are a heavy weight on an actual Asian that has to fall into a certain category and find a place in a world. There are prons and cons to this. Now being back in my homeland I kind of hate being involved in so much social things. I don’t wanna care about politics for example. Living in China I did not care about it cause I was a guest and it was not for me to judge or decide anything. I enjoyed not being drugged down into social dilemmas and could just continue my peaceful life. I also enjoyed being avoided sometimes in a public transport, but it was only sometimes. Most inconvenience was brought to me at a work place but there is still way to get around it and get comfortable even In there superficial weird environment. Of course there is a big difference between Japanese and Chinese people. With Chinese person, you still being a foreigner, can make a genuine connection on a deep level and they will invite you to family gatherings etc. with Japanese, as I heard, not my experience, it’s very hard and almost impossible (however I do think it’s just coming from Americans, as an Eastern European person it’s just takes more effort and actual actions to form a connection rather than just talk “nice” things all the time)
So I do think people complaining about how they perceive as foreigners are a bit privileged and don’t really realize that.
@@kinokodze well thanks for taking some time to talk. It's very pleasant to hear about your experience especially when talking about Chinese people.
When one of the guy was asked of this question” what do you not miss about japan”, and answered “being a foreigner”, it broke my heart.
I’m a Japanese who lived in a foreign country for 7 years. And totally understand how it is to be seen as an outsider.
btw, the country I stayed is Malaysia.
I learnt their cultures, histories and languages before even moving there.
Guess that wasn’t good enough
migration is in general not a good experience , I'm french , lived in the US and Brasil and since I had a choice, I came back home crawling. Leaving your culture is hard, trying to be accepted by another culture is hard, dealing with other people's flaws is harder than tolerating your own, if you have children it's very painful to accept that they will ose your culture and identity. That's why I think we should stop pushing this globalization. An experience in a foreign country is interesting but pushing people to move forever is very oversold. In the end I don't think it's a good thing.
And this is the way things should be. Respect the country or go back home.
It is usually the way you blend into a society that makes how they will receive you. Like he said if you go to a foreign country not speaking the language and ignoring the customs people will definetly respond unhealthy to you. After researching a little about the culture you will get a feel where you can be and where you should rather stay away too, because of the view of people about foreign people. Sometimes people are a little irrational to, this you have somehow to forgive with buddhist metta or christian view of love for others. For example i had a girlfriend from south east asia telling me that i could not marry her because her family might have a grudge at people like me for something that happened a long time in history, i was like are you for real what about the koreans who killed your kind in recent conflicts and still you guys are friends with the korean merchants.
@@backintimealwyn5736 as an american i apologize for our ignorance and racism but your leader much like ours is horrible i hope as future generations learn more about the world we can have a more peaceful country free from oppression and opening our borders
@@backintimealwyn5736 It seems only anglo-countries like US, UK, Australia, Canada, etc... have true multi-cultural societies. For all its faults, the Brits have been the best at setting up multicultural societies. Yes, I know we have issues, but our issues are ones of too much freedom and wealth. Countries like Japan are silly. They're a great place to visit, but why the F would you want to be Japanese? The work hours are long, your freedom/choices is limited because your ability to create wealth is limited, to climb the corporate ladder is next to impossible. Its all about nepotism over there. I agree with you about globalism but not for the same reason. Globalism is allowing the rich to get richer. The wealth gap between the ceo and janitor is getting ever wider.
I really like how you let everybody speak out what’s on there minds. No interruptions, you are just being polite and creating a nice atmosphere 👍🏼
4:35 when she said she doesn't like Japanese guys Takashii ended the interview instantly 😂😂🤣 👊
😭😭😂
Lol and he wanted to find out why as he was turning off the video 😂 love it
how awkward would it be if he dragged the video out 😭😂
Yeah he felt that 🤣🤣
there is bad blood between the Japanese and the Koreans because of the recent history between the two nations. Korean women especially.
I know a lot of younger japanese people don't want to keep sticking with japan's indirect culture, but if nobody speaks up, nothing is going to change. I understand respecting your elders, but japanese culture takes it to like a feudal level.
Culture is culture baby. I love it.
@@lyingeyes5579 it’s more like a curse lol
@@vinyl66tape Not really. Cultural traditions have been existing forever. People are only being little btches about it today.
@@lyingeyes5579 Culture is made by the living, and is subject to change by them.
@@aidarosullivan5269 Then I will simply reject any changes. I am sure I am not the only one.
I tried to settle in Japan together with my best friend of 22 years. It was nearly impossible. The bureaucratic navigation alone was something like from that Asterix and Obelix movie where they visit the Roman office.
I can choose between a tourist visa for 1 month or work visa for a year with a catch of having to go to the immigration office each 3 months for a stamp of renewal with a letter of recommendation from my employer and 2 letters from native Japanese people who are recommending me to stay and "vouch" for me. Then there was the whole thing that in order to renew my working visa each year I had to leave Japan for at least a month during that year split in the four weeks which meant trips to Korea.
It was a hassle to even find a place to live because so many places are downright "no foreigners" policy for moving in. I left after a year and a half.
My friend stayed, he studies at Waseda University, has international C levels in Japanese language and has been gulping down the culture since he was 15 and still it is incredible hard for him to stay because of the above reasons. (The study visa is only an option if a person is 36 years and younger).
Add to it the constant feeling of being observed and never fully included and the fact that it is nearly impossible to penetrate that polite barrier the Japanese people have around them and that they never really let you know what they truly think or feel and it was a bizarre feeling of complete loneliness I have never experienced before in my life.
After watching these videos your comment is probably the closest to the truth. Another thing I noticed is that the people in these videos are always on the younger side. I wonder how much they will be able to stomach before eventually going back to their home countries. It would be cool to see the opinions of foreigners that have been living there for decades and not just a few years.
Oh, I don't miss the bureaucracy! Or my guyjin card with my fingerprint and photo which made me feel like a criminal. Or the banking. Or that feeling of always being watched, even in the gym when it was hard enough for me to be naked in public!!
@@nailil5722 would be cool, but there's none left
@@Kyoto_EdRace war in the U.K.?
Japan wonders why it has a demographic problem. Country has some very silly burocracy.
It was interesting to hear the swedish guy because I lived in southern sweden for 6 months and also felt really lonely and that it was hard to truly connect with people, even thought I got to level B2 of swedish before I arrived there. I also often hear this kind of comment about my own country, Portugal.
Så tråkigt att det var kyligt i Sverige. Jag hoppas att du mår bra nu o har ett gott liv! Kom tillbaka till Sverige och prova att bo i en mindre stad i norra Småland till exempel, där är de ofta vänliga och öppnare!
I'm an American living in northern Portugal, who was recently naturalized, and I can confirm this. People here are very friendly, generous and willing to help; in general, I find them much easier to interact with than people in America. But you get this sense that you're somewhat of an outsider and that people look at you differently once they know you're an American. I'm still learning Portuguese; I can have basic conversations. I'm trying to involve myself in Portuguese culture because it's my heritage, so it's important to me. But friend groups here, especially with the younger generations, feel very closed off. No one has been rude or hostile to me, but I feel that I'm being kept at a distance. Maybe when I become more fluent, they'll warm up to me.
I’ve been living here in Japan for 4 years and 2 months now. My contract is about to end in 5 months and I decided not to extend anymore for the reason that the work is physically tiring and I’m kinda worried about my health in the future. This is my second job since I came here and I kinda realized that jobs for trainee foreigners are physically tough. But when my Shachou finally asked me about my extension, it finally hit me. I’ve been dreaming of living in this country since I was in HS and I’ve been learning Japanese since College. It’s so hard to let go of the comfortable lifestyle here. Japan taught me how to be comfortable going out alone, eating at the restaurant alone, enjoy my own company and discover things about myself that I never knew. But at the same time my mental health got worse. When you got so much time being alone, you think about unnecessary stuff and overthink about the future. But cheers to us foreigners for always finding beauty and positivity even when life gets rough 🎉
It's one thing I wish to experience if I get to travel to Japan, from what I've seen, it really seems to be a great place to just hangout outside, walk to parks and see festivals. I know my vision is biased because of animes. But, I've got a friend who's currently there and he really can appreciate exploring outside and visit. Maybe it's because we grew up there, but in our country, hanging out outside (mainly alone) isn't as fun, or as safe. You're lucky if you live somewhere where the view isn't bad. I'm sure, a lot of it has to do with the fact that I have a dreamy vision of Japan but, I'm sure it's partially real. But I realize too I could probably never live there because, a lot of things that are part of the japanese life style and culture wouldn't work with me. Even though I'm an introvert, I would suffer from being too isolated, and even though I like the culture of respect, I dispise the culture of not expressing ourselves as much as we need to. And obvisouly, the work culture, being waaay more chill where I live, free time is too important for me.
Wait I‘m confused, if you went to college and are close to retirement, how are you a trainee? Foreign trainees in Japan are young blue collar workers from deceloping Asian countries who work in Japan for a limited time (5 years maximum) and then return to their home country. They are not permanent immigrants, therefore they can‘t receive pension. Also, no company would hire someone close to retirement as a trainee anyway. And why would you do a physically though blue collar job if you went to university? This is the first time I heard about something like this.
@@mojabaka I apologize for the confusion. Cos my shachou used the word 退職 (taishoku) which means retirement but it says u can use this word when quitting a job. I’m still 28 yrs old. When I came here I was under TITP visa (3 yrs) then now, ssw. I have the option to extend up to 5 more years. Although I can change jobs, it would still fall under the category Industrial Packaging (physically tiring any company u go huhu). Unless I take the pro-metric exam to change my skill but I don’t have the energy to do that haha and my japanese skill? Even tho I said I’ve been studying since college, my JLPT level is still at N3 but really tho, my conversational skill and kanji is still at N4. I’ve got so much time to study but too tired and unmotivated. It’s ironic how I was better at studying in Japanese and my japanese was better back when I was in my country than coming here in Japan.
@@jonas8993 well, you can read thousands of things that people post about their experiences living here but it would still be different if you experience it yourself. But in the end, it will still be “Heaven for tourists, Hell for workers” 😅
@@pyodesu Yeah I see... I guess the only thing to do is make the most of what we can have and chose to do and to go where we feel like :) Sometimes I'm overthinking, possibilities of careers, places to go, life conditions ^^
I love how learning a new language makes you almost create a new persona, great example is the Swedish guy, his mannnerism's and tone changed when he started speaking Japanese. It could also be that he is slightly embarrased to speak, but I've noticed the reservation and politeness that comes with just speaking the Japanese language, it's fascinating to me.
Its scientifically proven that we have a different character with each language. Different thought connections, different context. Lol sounds like different operating systems are installed
@@nutzeeer well they kind of are. In your mother tongue you'll probably always know more idioms and slang words used in your region than with your second language. That alone can make your speech, even when translated word for word, totally different than if you'd spoken in your second language from the get go
Totally agree with this info
Ever ask yourself, why would you need to learn Japanese in a culture that seems to want to learn English? I went to Japan and learned the reason. The reason is foreigners are not acceptable to Japanese at all and you have to learn it. Alot of lies here but I decided not to learn it and sold my 1k worth of books. Iam not integrating with a culture that only seeks to dominate mine and there is no quid pro quo with them.
He is not shy or insecure, it's part of really immersing yourself into a language. You can speak it by words, or you adapt your mannerism to completely fit in. Japanese people for example tend to do a lot of sound-driven conversationing, while your opponent talks you constantly nod and make noises assuring your opposite you're listening and following. It's what makes you blend in with the crowd instead of looking like a foreigner that learned the language.
02:35 After 13 years living abroad, and having Korea as my "home base" even now (moved to Japan 4 months ago), this is what let me know that I will not be here longer than my current work contract. Old systems, it takes forever to get anything done, there are a mountain of procedures and redundant steps, and all the on-boarding was focused on doing things "how they are supposed to be done" rather than any focus on what is truly practical and important. What takes 30 mins in Korea takes 10 days in Japan...at 4 times the price. I feel a bit relieved actually - I don't get major honeymoon phases or care much about travel and culture and all that - I just do my job, see how people live, and if it's worthwhile I'll learn the language more and start developing roots and integrate. Japan always seemed like this mysterious, wonderful country that I would absolutely fall in love with and start building long-term plans once I'm here - but 4 months have been enough for me to analyze the place and know it's super interesting and a great place to explore, but I will not be wasting any time going deep into the language and building a life here - I'll learn enough to get by, do my job, hopefully meet some interesting people....but I'd rather use my extra time to continue developing Korean and other languages, and make plans elsewhere. I'm super happy to be here, but in terms of Japan long-term: Nope.
I think this video did a great service to everyone. I am not planning to go to Japan, but I learned a lot about the interpersonal relationships about the Japanese culture. Of course not everything.
You helped people to learn how to better enjoy Japan and you helped any Japanese people who care to learn, how to be more receptive to foreigners, which I think there are not many.
The biggest part i will take away is, " You will never be Japanese." I think that is sad. I know that it's not everyone in Japan, but it seems that it's enough that it made one woman mention it who is Japanese. That says volumes to me. Basically it says, be like us when you come here, but you will never be one of us. Basically not very welcoming.
It has changed my whole opinion of Japan. Which is good. Because I am one of the people that over romanticized Japan. 🙏
I think it's totaly ok that they will never view you as a japanese even if you were born there. As long as they don't discriminate foreigners. I hope japan will set a limit for how many foreigners can enter the country for their own good, because we currently see in europe what multiculuralism did to us. You can't even recognise europe as europe anymore when your walk through major cities. It's always funny that leftists are romanticising asian countries and like it how safe, clean and conservative it is, but in their own country they preach wokeness and 'open border mentality',
It's hard living in Japan. I'm half japanese living in Japan and it's tremendously hard to live here without getting any of your identity changed based on people's judgement. I'm never fully accepted here despite my Japanese nationality. People seem to care so much about "my other half" and they completely forget my other half is actually japanese
All sympathy tough I look Japanese and still treated differently. I recommend you to travel, and/or tour around your own city. Japanese are more opened to strangers, which is strange, but that's how they are, and I feel rather relieved than my daily life.
Even if your parents are Japanese, but you grew up overseas. The Japanese people also think you are foreigners,
Some Japanese people have told me that, so, they said they don’t want to be friends with local Japanese people.
I’m a foreigner in Japan, I totally understand your feelings.
So, I think I will leave Japan one day.
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hey Bob, am from USA and feel the same way myself, living here.
Completely agreed with you I’m also half Japanese half Mexican but even my Japanese family see my Mexican side. Never felt like part of my Japanese family.
As a foreigner in Japan who is from another Asian country, I totally agree with the first Korean woman.
I’ve been in Japan for years and speak Japanese.
However, I nearly have given up on being real friends with Japanese, unless they lived abroad or speak foreign languages well.
As some people said in this video, Japanese people always think you are a foreigner, and judge your Japanese level, and they hide their real thoughts to keep their politeness on the surface.
Some of my friends lived in Japan for a decade and they all have left Japan, we have such feelings that most Japanese are too fake to communicate with.
If I get a chance to move to a Western country, I’ll leave Japan.
Visiting Japan as tourists, it would be great; but working in Japan for a long time as foreigners. NO!
How many years did you live and how many friends have left?
@@showtime3314 considering the falling population of Japan then probably not better for them lol..
sounds like the usual immigrant experience in most countries
The thing is, I hope you find somewhere nice, but a LOT of countries it is difficult to make friends in once you are an Adult.
I am a New Zealander. I lived away from New Zealand from 20 to 29 years old. When I came back, to my birth city even, I found it almost impossible to make any new friends. I gave up trying years ago.
I couldn't agree with you more, but it seems to me that only Asians are subjected to this kind of judgment. We are supposed to speak Japanese flawlessly.
It’s not just Japan. It’s never easy to live anywhere in the world as a foreigner. It gets slightly easier as you spend more time but still it’s never easy. I speak this from my own experience as I’m a Korean who has lived in England for 20 years. The first 5 years was extremely difficult here, then things got slightly better but I struggle with depression from time to time. Now that I’ve spent decades here, I feel there’s no room for me to go back but at the same time, I fear of dying here alone as I’m getting older. I know a lot of people tend to romanticise life abroad but it is a huge commitment as it will completely change your life. It’s literally everything - language, culture, food, friends and family.
Keep your head bro u still alive bc u got a purpose
But more severe in Japan.
It depends. It's easy for an American to live in Canada or for a Swede to live in Norway.
@@ketchup901 Even Asians don't like to stay there...
@@mayoutoobid Where? Regardless of your answer I don't see how that contradicts what I said.
It's very difficult to merge or fully understand what it's like to be in a japanese culture, especially with what they said that no matter what happens 'you'll always be a foreigner' in Japan. I'm half japanese and growing up, they never saw or put importance the fact that I'm still half japanese. My siblings and I was always.... always considered foreigner for them. Immediately, that put a huge strain on personal identity at such a young age. It was alienating that we decided to return back to my mother's country. I even once asked my father if he would ever decide to return to Japan to retire, and he said no. He felt that he would just end up being depressed or sad if he returned there as an old person, since japanese people like to keep to themselves and mind their own business, but he's now very used to interacting socially with people and couldn't spare the idea of even losing that part of his social life. It's a beautiful and economically powerful country, but socially speaking, they're still behind times unfortunately...
Might be unfitting here, but I am an exactly opposite case, being "ethnically" Japanese, having japanese nationality and being born there, but I lived most of my life in Germany. When I am in Japan I often feel as if the Japanese expect me to be "normal", which I can't be (Different culture, customs and so on) so they get confused/weirded out and distance themselves from me. That is the case even though I speak Japanese fluently and without accent, so it isn't a problem of the language, but of things like my body language. I think Japanese people are very strict to fellow japanese and expect one to be 100% conforming to the norm. They do not realize why I cannot fulfill their expectations, and sadly I feel they are not forgiving whatsoever.
Also, I never got along with the ambiguous, "never talking about what they think" mindset Japanese have. For the reason that you never know what they think (you are not allowed to speak out what you think) and only showing "friendliness" to hide your true opinion, I feel very uncomfortable around Japanese. I tend to avoid them even though I am technically "one of them", but I always felt isolated. I think it is a nice country if you can fit in the society, but for me, that is sadly not the case. I really like Japan as a visitor, but I just can not get along with the way the society is.
Interesting, I have the same feeling but with france. I grew up in france and speak it fluently with no accent, exactly like a native. But my parents are english and i'm also autistic so I never learned the customs and body language and attitudes, I never learned my place in short. If I had an accent I think people would be ok with it, but since I sound like a native I constantly get punished for not meeting the same standards as natives.
@@vacafuega punished how exactly? just curious
Your background is very interesting. You shpuld make a video talking about your experiences. Would love to hear :) Greetings from Berlin
I’m Mexican
I would like to hang out with people like you in Japan)
I'm a foreigner whose lived in Japan for 8 months now and will be leaving in 4. Let me just echo what many people in this video said: if you are planning to live in Japan, LEARN JAPANESE. I say that as someone that didn't, and my experience here has been incredibly isolating. Personally, i'm introverted and its mostly been fine, but it does get lonely and difficult at times. I know others that knew even just enough japanese to have basic exchanges with people, and their experience living here is vastly different/more fun than mine because of it.
Edit (because there is confusion): Firstly, I DO speak some japanese, it’s elementary but I can get around on a daily basis just fine. Moreover, when I say “learn Japanese” I mean learn to be conversationally fluent, if you plan to live here long term (3+years) I have met foreigners that have been living here for 5+ years and know less Japanese than me, but they’re fine. This is just my opinion on the matter from someone that has first hand experience.
Where are you from?
I am in the same boat. But it’s a chicken egg situation right? I’ve been here about 8 mos. and my experience has been sort of negative. So I don’t see myself staying long and therefore don’t see the benefit of making the investment to learn the language.
@@aligenc659United States
I agree. I am a university student in Japan, but my program is in English. I think although I can attend my class in English, it is definitely necessary to learn Japanese, because I am facing a lot of difficulties in my social and mental aspects without Japanese. Visiting for a short while is wholly different from staying for a long time.
@@joshl2375 Understandable. Personally, I've since learned a decent amount of the language & kanji given the time, and plan to continue, but that's more because I've made it a personal goal of mine after my experience here
It's a beautiful country with many beautiful people and I miss many things about living there, like the honesty and generosity of it's people. Once, my scarf dropped as I was running for a train and a girl found it, chased after me, went through the turnstyle and gave it to me, already neatly folded. People would go blocks out of the way to help me home the first few days. So sweet! My friend left her handbag in a park in Tokyo and when she went back, it was not only still there, but it still had all the money after 3 hours. But Japan is also very stressful, with so many rules which people don't tell you and aren't in the guidebooks. You feel you are always doing something wrong or upsetting someone, and you never feel you can learn what that thing is because people won't say, or if they do, they already seem angry and frustrated - not putting change in someone's hand, using both hands to give and receive, not putting a gift on the ground while waiting for the train, knowing that someone finished work early so they are waiting for you to realise but they didn't tell you... It's usually a foreigner who has been there longer who will tell you the rules. I always tried to be respectful and fit in, but often my senses told me something was up and I never felt relaxed. I think that is also due to being a foreigner - you are always different. I have had friends there for over 10 years, married with kids, and they will always be a foreigner. We can never earn people's trust or respect. Also, it was hard to tell if people wanted to be friends with you as a person, or as a free English lesson.
Where do they put the change? On the counter top?
@@brianogrady9031 In a little tray on the counter top.
Watching this video and reading the comments, Japan seems like the passive-agressive land at its core, when it comes to actually living the and building relationships (or not building, because of that same reason).
Good synopsis of the culture. Japan has lots of domestic abuse situations....the country isn't nearly as polite as being told in these interviews. Additionally people will talk about you behind your back and you can get blacklisted.@@silviaaa
Japanese is cultural of saving face, Two face is common too.
I love your content. I'm watching from Windermere, Florida USA. I will be visiting soon with my wife and son and watching your videos have helped me understand the Japanese way of life more. I always do research before visiting a country and think it is imperative to do so. Thank you!
Takashii running to shut down the camera to ask her why is the most adorable and hilarious moment in this episode.
I neeeded to know before she leaves Japan lol
@@takashiifromjapan Why did you need to shut down the camera though? Can't you just cut it in post-production from the video 🤣
I think the dynamics between Koreans and Japanese are already complicated so I’m sure it also affects dating 😂😂 it’s a fun topic maybe for a future vid!
@@joshl2375 Japan: we didn’t do anything, why are you talking about?🥸
@@takashiifromjapan lol.
You’ve really developed as a interviewer and RUclipsr. You seem more comfortable in-front of the camera and seem more confident when your speaking with these people. Good Job
Thank you!
@@livmarlin4259who tf are you
I have been to Japan many times and also can speak japanese very well as I used to live in Osaka before. Personally I think Japan is very good for holiday or short visit only because as a foreigner I find its very difficult to socialise with Japanese friends which makes me feel isolated.
Thank you for making this video, I am Chinese, I lived in Japan for 4and half years, the feeling in video and comment I can totally understand, and I am happy to know I am not the only one who felt this way, that kind of isolated and be treated always with a “Chinese ”tag on me was almost killed me.
But I like Japan a lot, clean, quiet, convenient, and so on
I can remember before I leave Japan I felt huge mental stress that I was just so tired and can’t feel any interest on anything. It was really tough time for me.
I heard a similar thing from a guy I chatted for a few minutes years ago. He was an American guy who worked and lived in Japan for a total of 15 years. He also married a Japanese lady, had kids. He said "You are always like a permanent visitor or a guest, and can never fully integrate into the society". I imagine, that "permanent outsider" feel and treatment would affect a lot of people who wanted to live there permanently.
I want to know he understand Japanese or not.
@@Greenforrest7342 I believe he was proficient in speaking, not sure about written, didn't give him a quiz on that =)
@@Greenforrest7342 that shouldn't and does not matter. Noone attacks or quizzes Japanese on their foreign language proficiency.
Trust me it is better than minorities that get treated in white nations. I live in England and white folks treat minorities like shit and there is a lot of institutional racism.
it would be great if you could give some specific examples on "fully integrate into the society"
One of my teachers in my junior high school has recently moved to Japan. When I reached out to her, she said, "Japan is a very nice country if you're going here for a vacation, but if you are going to live here, well that's another story." But still, I am glad that she got by and is starting a family there with her husband.
What I like about this video is that you are exploring both sides; the good and the bad.
Great video, Takashi san! 素晴らしい! ✌
You should ask her why
would love to know the why
@@antonyzhou6602 Primary reasons were missing her family here and culture shock.
as a Japanese I think many foreign countries are the same to me, America, UK, Australia, Malaysia. It is nice to go for a vacation but after working there for a while it is all different.
if hearing profanities isn't a problem the first thing in the mornings, people are less nicer when your novelty value runs out. even got robbed by a neighbor thereafter, reason being the perception that Japanese people are rich!
but after living abroad in 7 different societies for 20 odd years I guess it is the same everywhere for many foreigners. especially when the culture is different, especially when u dont speak their language and spent some time diving into the norms of every society as deep as u can.
what is ok to you cam be rather terrible to some, whats routine to my culture might be horrifying to you. some ppl really took offense of any culture which is different, lets accept that.
but little do anyone realize; NOBODY OWE ANYONE ANYTHING. People like to talk as if the world owes them the very moment they are born.
@@MrNajibrazak Yeah man the worst is when your background, which you may not even give a shit about yourself, causes you to get robbed or shat on by other people
Thanks for your anectdote it's interesting : D
Advices from the Spanish girl were spot on. I really identify with them.
Btw. Big thanks Takashi for talking about all those issues. I think this is very important to talk about it in an honest and open way - among foreigners and among Japanese as well. Understanding each other's point of view and cultural background is simply crucial for good social relationships.
Her accent was spot on.
Based on my personal experiences residing in Japan, Korea, and Taiwan, I encountered the greatest challenges in Japan. Without proficiency in Japanese and an understanding of their cultural intricacies, one easily feels like an outsider. In contrast, both South Korea and Taiwan extended a remarkably warm welcome. The people in these countries were open and enthusiastic about assisting foreigners like myself, and English proficiency was noticeably higher than in Japan. While Japan is undeniably a beautiful and friendly country with exceptional cleanliness, my preference leans toward living in South Korea and Taiwan.
One of my buds from Stanford went there (and still there) as translator for the State Dept and Embassy , and teacher in a local gakuen' (or high school). What the 2nd Korean lady said is true until today: if your work visa says you are a teacher, you HAVE / WILL be a teacher, and CANNOT divert to work say, a waiter part-time . The J local companies wont allow. Which is the reverse in the US, a work visa means WORK, at anything, and cannot be only one industry.
agree! Iv lived in tw for almost 1 year and people there very nice
In Philippines, when you learn to speak our language, learn our culture, learn our ways, people here will treat you like a part of their family. It doesn't matter if you are a Latino, Hapones, Amerikano, Chinese, Vietnamese, Arabo, Afrikano, Judeo, Koreano, Eurepeano, Asiano, Bumbay, Indiano, Italiano, Australiano, if you learn the ways of Filipinos, they will treat you like family. My own family have so many foreign blood relatives. We embrace people from other countries. Race, religion, culture, traits, traditions, we accept them all. My Chinese and Japanese relatives believe in Buddha. My relatives in Saudi Arabia and in Arab nations somehow adopt the belief of good living in Islam. My relatives in my father side are Protestants. My relatives in my mother side are Roman Catholics. My Canadian and USA relatives are Presbyterians. I love them all because they are my relatives.
I guess I'm coming then😂!!
I always thought as Phillipines as the Mexicans of Asians , you guys are so much like us, family , friendly open to meeting good people, good food , culture
Mexicans are like that too. You dont even need to speak spanish, just say you like the food and the alcohol and thats it, you are one of them. Koreans are very well accepted in mexican society because of that reason, they already come from a spicy food culture and they are used to big amounts of alcohol lol.
That’s beautiful!
You’re 100% correct, my cousin married a nurse, they treated him like a king
Interview natives that are leaving Japan
PLEASE !!!
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they don't want to leave. they think abroad everybody is getting gun shots
I ‘m Japanese, left Japan 10 years ago. As Korean lady had mentioned in the video, many of Japanese seek for very small happiness and can’t think of big future dream thing especially recently. As some people said this phenomenon as”Galapagos syndrome” or “lost 30 years after bubble economy”, I feel clear deterioration of Japanese is on going. Now Japan is becoming quite behind in terms of many kind of civilization such as IT, Electric Vehicle, governmental systems, unnecessary legal restrictions etc.,because of heavy conservatisms of all nations. Now, number of young students studying abroad became 1/20 comparing to that of 30 years ago. Now foreign tourists is increasing enormously in Japan mainly because of low Yen rate, and Japanese hospitality of OMOTENASHI, which is good thing for tourism. But Japanese peaceful conservatism which evoke people flock of blind sheep may negative for most of foreign habitants in a long run.
@@masatoinoue668good comment , thankyou.
I absolutely LOVE Japan. It’s an introverts paradise. America is too extrovert for me.
My friend who live and taught English in Japan lamented the difficulty in getting to know the real person, instead of merely interacting with somebody presenting what felt like a bunch of scripted, polite social rituals. It seems like that's a theme in this video too.
I wish more people would be open like u towards foreigners!
No. Foreigners, even me, do not belong in Japan.
If all foreigners spoke Japanese and followed Japanese rules, Japanese would.
@@user-qm7jw I studied and spoke Japanese. I thought that would help me break through but it didn’t. I also pretty much followed customs. I don’t have trouble in my own country making friends. I just figured Japanese people feel more comfortable with other Japanese people.
@@user-qm7jw exactly
@@carolsakaguchi3739
it's not just in Japan. For example, when I was abroad in the United States, Americans hung out with other Americans, and international students hung out with other international students. I would say more than 90% were split between Americans and foreigners. And during a group presentation, all of them were Americans except me, but they didn't share some information with me. And when you go to the streets, even amongst Americans, whites were only with whites only, blacks were walking with blacks, Hispanics were hanging out with Hispanics. this is the reality, even in America, which is known as a melting pot of races.
I stayed in Japan for 6yrs, worked as a graphic artist designer in big corpo. I can speak fluently Japanese language, but even that I never felt comfortable in this country. I’m an Australian, where the people very open and friendly so was very hard for me to make any relation or find any friends. I found Japanese people as a very hermetically sealed. It’s a good country to visit, but not for living. I returned to Australia to completely different lifestyle. Do I have any intention to come back ? No, I don’t think so.
The Japanese may be closed off and unable to form meaningful deep relationships with. They may or may not be closet racists, but at the very least they keep to themselves.
Compared that to drunk or just disgruntled white Aussies who adaciously racially abuse people of Asian origins on the streets. Happens all the time.
In the "civilised" part of Australian society (e.g. workplace/corporate world) people are nice on surface but pretentious and insincere.
14:01 😮
It's not a good place to live when you don't understand how it works. And waiting years to figure it out is a big deal!
The Japanese will be able to stay unique as a result of the things you described. The Western nations are losing their culture and unique identity due to globalist forced agendas. I miss having a distinct identity.
Too introverted
Worked and lived in Nagoya for 6 years during the 90's without much expectations and without learning Nihongo, and what shocked me during those years, was how few Japanese spoke English.
During my first 3 years, I struggled communicating, I just hung-out with Japanese instead of my countrymen, and little by little, with a little self taught speaking and reading Katakana and Hiragana, I slowly learned the language and culture.
Luckily, I have a Japanese best friend who understands a little English who was my interpreter and Nihongo teacher. We correspond thru letters up to this day coz he doesn't have internet.
I miss Japan's inaka, beautiful mountains of Nagano, prestine rivers and I love Sumo.😊
These interviews are addicting in some odd way, everyone just talks well versed and the question are short but on point. Love that :)
It's interesting to hear the same opinion as I've had being a foreigner in Japan. The work culture is honestly not so great. I'm sure it does depend on the company you work for, but the amount of unspoken "rules" in society is what really is the most difficult in Japan. The best description I could offer someone who has never worked in Japan and wants to is, it's not the fantasy land you think it is of anime and Manga with super friendly interactions. It's like a double-edge sword. If you go along with the "group think" of how everyone behaves in public and society, you'll blend in but the moment you try to be yourself, people will judge you very much. This is just my honest feedback as a foreigner who has worked in Japan before for a couple of years.
Quite a few normie reasons for not wanting to live in Japan in this video and in general. I agree with you on the work culture and norms being uncompromising, but the fact that it's hard to fit in and being ostracized just makes me want to move to Japan right away. I love being an introvert and I'm already kind of a loner in my own country, so no difference there. If you're perfectly content with yourself and not worried about sticking out like a sore thumb, Japan is perfect in my eyes. If you're a teeniebopper and always worrying about what others think, that could be a major hiccup. People high in agreeableness trait I'm sure will probably go there trying to navigate a land mine field, lol.
Finally, someone who tells it the way it is. Japan is very, very, very quirky and very, very very different than ANY other country in the world, including other Asian countries. If you are a dude, be wary of marrying a Japanese girl, they can be brutally cold. Word to the wise.
@@musicfirst5020 Not to mention that a significant number of foreign men that marry Japanese women end up having their children effectively kidnapped by Japanese women, with no recourse to see their children again.
Different and not in any good way. You'll never find common ground even as hikikomori. I was always different myself so I never saw the exotic as an allure, so I saw it for what it was immediately. The countries toxic and unless you like torture, should go to another one. People always think different is better aren't that, they're normal. Japan is basically a pedophilic china. It isn't that unique. There are about 5 countries in the area almost identical. I second the wife thing, worse decision ever for a western man to marry one. They act like kids, they are tyrants when they think they have authority over you. You'll never be equals, and you always know nothing. Great if you want to marry a 10 year old retarded woman. Japan in general.
@@VesperAegis I have the exact same views as you. I'm already disconnected from society in the UK so it makes no difference what country I go to. Anything will be an improvement lol.
+ I'm not social and don't care about making friends. My only life goals are early retirement and finding a wife who will follow and build a family with me.
The same thing that attracts you to Japan - its alien and fascinating culture - will in the end push you out. I found a second home there, and the experience profoundly changed my life for the better.
That's not why I liked it, 32 years ago, I was hated in my society because I was a hikikomori. I found solace in video games, and I told myself I would one day go to Japan where I thought I belonged and become one of the first gaijin devs. Now I went there and I tested them against themselves in trying to make use of an abandoned office under the akiya program. I found that they are seriously racist and disappointed me in every way possible. They will not compromise even in the face of law or racism. They even hated my favorite decade (the 90s) because it didn't benefit their real estate bosses. Even though it cemented world love for them. They are selfish and self centered, and the politeness an consideration a facade. Now I only wish for the demise of their economy. I had to use shutoku jiko to obtain my land and I'll likely lose it due to their racist ignorance and greed. The amount of waste is incredible and they don't respect nature, mottainai.
@@ironhell808 sure, how dare they, when only western countries are allowed to be racist, right?
@@ironhell808You wish demise for Japan as a country because of your experiences at one company? Or demise to the company you worked for??
@@leoninagaki3709 not Japan's demise as a country, just it's influence, because it lied to me for 30 years and I don't want what disease they have spreading to the rest of the world. As the asahi shimbun once said "it isn't the 80s no more and the dream of a Japanese future for the western world is dead". I never worked for a company, I sought to move one to Japan. It is sad how nationalist Japan is under the guise of preservation. America liked the blend of culture seen. In blade runner but mortified the selfish Japanese. Yet Japan still clings to the secret axis fueled idea of Japanese cultural dominance. It will never be, and blade runner was the best the future would have offered us both. Not good enough for Japanese ensures their own demise.
@@leoninagaki3709 generalising japan is a lot more acceptable than other countries as it is one of the least diverse and therefore his opinion makes sense
I enjoy your videos. I would like to see interviews with older foreign residents. What are their realiltes with health, retirment, after family moves on. So often we focus on students or younger residents. There are so many who have lived here long term, as one of those interviewed said her mother has lived here 40 years, so wondered if you have already interviewed anyone choosing to live out their older years in Japan. Thanks!
Very interesting. I appreciate the content you covered as it's just what I needed to hear. I've had a life-long interest in experiencing Japan. You asked all the right questions. Thanks for this.
I lived in Japan for 3 months and the only friends I made were elderly people. They were the sweetest, they talked in English to me.
Where in Japan out of curiousity?
@@mario5139 Tokyo, Asakusa district
Funny, I was there the same amount of time and they say that young ones are easier. Older are more likely to know and understand English. Both sets don't want us English there. I for one will not go to a place I'm not wanted. Plenty of places will accept foreigners better.
@@ironhell808 let me guess, american?
Well they are mostly elderly. Dead society
I’m Spanish. I lived in Japan for almost 12 years before I finally left. But my main reason to leave was simply that my family lives in Spain and that’s too far away. I now live in the UK and it’s so easy to grab a cheap flight and go and see the family over the weekend.
If I didn’t have a family, I wouldn’t have left Japan, though. I like all the positive things they’ve mentioned in the interviews.
I don’t think I’ll come back to live here, but I visit often. Right now I’m writing this from Hakodate 😂
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I left japan bc of how racist it is
I live in Spain since I was little, it's a wonderful country! Saludos! 😊❤️✨
Me mudaré a Japón el año que viene con mi pareja y con intención de vivir en Japón durante años, (ya estuvimos allí uno entero), y lo que más me preocupa, por no decir lo único es estar tan lejos de familia y amigos… creo que eso me hará dudar si volver, por lo demás yo estaba súper agusto viviendo en Japón , claro que mi pareja también es español, no es lo mismo ir solo, pero vamos que no tengo problema con no sentirme nunca japonesa del todo, porque no lo soy, la verdad eso me da igual jaja
What Visa do u have to live in Japan for that long?
Ya sabias Japones cuando fuiste Compa? Igual me voy 1-2 meses a estudiar
Could never afford to live there. To visit, it's my first stop. As an introverted person who keeps to himself, Japan is perfect.
Japan's pretty cheap. Especially nowadays
IMMERSION is definitely the best way to put yourself out there and learn a language. :) It can be scary, but It’s worth it! My confidence in my Japanese skills grew after a week in Japan. :)
The half-Aussie was really interesting, with regards to Japanese schools heavy focus on pure memorization.
The Swedish gentleman interviewed second, came across as one of the most balanced and thoughtful people I've ever seen on this channel. He was quietly and unassumingly impressive because of his balanced views seeing both sides of positives of being in Japan and negatives but accepting each according to their different rationales while providing examples and personal anecdotes of these things, for example the benefits of Japan as well as the challenges posed by being a foreigner and being absolutely honest about each to proportional degree.
And: Excellent advice: Learn some simple things in public: Queuing, Bowing and fitting in with how the society works. As well as the strongest advice to learn the language to be able to interact with people successfully!
It was a particularly interesting interview and thank you very much to this man for his sound advice for others to learn from.
You can tell by *how* he spoke (including mannerisms) that he's incredibly perceptive, which is so helpful when you immerse yourself in something unfamiliar to you.
@@Roaming725 To know your own personal filters and also without them is challenging so it's impressive to see. It was good almost all those interviewed emphasized learning Japanese!
The interview reminded me of an author who did interviews to Londoners and New Yorkers call Londoners: The Days and Nights of London Now - as Told by Those Who Love it, Hate it, Live it, Left it and Long for it. by Craig Taylor for the former and a similar title for the latter city. The different types of people in a city and their interview and personal stories.
Very good interviews by Takashii.
Yes his advice was very good, I hope everyone who wants to visit or live in Japan will really listen to him
The Swedish are like that.
As a foreigner I wouldn't have no issues practicing the local culture as far as speaking the language , bowing , beeing polite as much as I can , queueing , and stopping at red light ....Also I fully understand how a culture can value conformity as a cohesion mechanism to be stronger as a group ( a thing that is totally dead in France right now ) , however the thing the puzzles me about Japanese work culture , is how they can think hard competition can generate ANY sort of innovation , not saying that Japan doesn't innovate , Japan did countless times , but I think they misplace the core reason of that innovation , which is more to be placed in the originality of misfit characters , than competitive conformity .....You can clearly see it in archeologic periods , when you get mass extinctions , the natural niches are less cluttered by animals competing for the ressources of the niches , and quickly adopt weird forms , and diversify creating thousands of weird new species ,so to speak innovate in a zoological terms , whereas in the end of each zoological periods , conform branches of well established phenotypes compete HARD for ressources and you get less and less species ( similar to the appropriation of market niches by giant corporations that ate every little company , which everybody can agree on is an innovation killer ) ...How can you THINK about a new idea when you care more about conformity , are busy working HARD on well established processes that you just have to apply as efficiently as possible , and thus have NO TIME or inclination to think out of the box ? The general IQ of Japanese people is VERY high but I'm really puzzled about how they seem to not be able to put in perpective that competitive manner of functioning in society , and try to relax a bit on it , not in a way to degrade the cohesive nature of Japanese culture , but create pockets of "air' to breathe with less constraints .....
Love this channel and as a foreigner living in France I can relate,the biggest thing is that you learn the language and have a plan why and how you want to live research what is the best place to start so you can get on your feet before making big decisions if you want to continue living there or not 💯❤️
Just came back from my Japan trip, and fantasizing about living in Japan. This video is a good reality check that traveling vs living are two very different things.
Thank you for this video!
The Korean girl spoke for so many people 🔓 she put all the stress out. 😂😂😂 I like her.
Koreans say it bluntly. No half assing and tell it like it is. Japanese on the other hand, everything is all good mister. But behind your back talk crap about you all the time. Which one do you want?
@@michaellim4165 at least japanese be polite in front of you😂
@Michael Lim I'm Korean and Koreans do talk shit behind back, what you talking about 😂
@@Jenny052385 You don't look Korean from the looks of your profile pic tho
I understand her, she studied Japanese and worked in their country and likely tried to integrate for so long, it's just natural to say what you liked and what you didn't like especially if your efforts were useless in the end...
After living in South Korea for 5 years I moved to Japan in August 2015 until April 2018.
The language barrier and social isolation were less of an issue for me as much as the poor working conditions and financial stress.
I worked for two different ALT despatch companies which ended up being some of the worst experiences of my life.
I'd love to return to Japan some day to further study the language but I don't think I could ever work there again.
I think the visa system in South Korea and the unwelcoming life is worse than in Japan.
Get a real job then. Working as an ALT past your early 20's is like working in fast food or retail past high school and complaining about how shit it is. Of course it's shit, you have nothing to offer them so they give you a job a monkey can do.
@@r8m8s8 would you mind developing? What is unwelcoming about it ? (genuinely curious)
@@r8m8s8 I enjoyed living and working there but I met other people who struggled with the issues you mentioned.
@@r8m8s8 I don’t think so… as person who has worked in both countries…
Ah! I love this content, thank you very much. I think for a foreigner who would like to come to Japan, learning about the disappointments of others is a very important step. Japan to visit, and Japan to stay, are two very different experiences, in my experience.
Thanks for helping other cultures understand better Japan and its culture.
There is many things I find interesting for the rest of the world to learn from Japan culture.
I stayed in Japan for 11 years. I left a year ago. I have no regrets. Sure there’s stuff I miss, but it was the right choice for me. I tend to agree with some of the stuff that’s already been said here: it’s hard to make really good friends because people are private.
Also working in a black company that didn’t respect it’s workers and then a white company but where I experienced sexism was enough to tell me all I needed to know to tell me Japan is not where I want to pursue a career or raise a child. Also the stuff that had drew me to Japan in the first place lost its charm. There’s only so many purikura you can take and yakiniku and karaoke parties you can join before you realize how overpriced it all as. Talk about throwing your money down the toilet. Still the most beautiful and clean country I have ever seen in my life though hands down.
11 years in japan, and sexism and racism barriers never gave way. Thats a long time to spend in one place, just to get up and move to another country and start all over.
@@bevs9995 yeah it’s a long time but I had a great time! Zero regrets! Knowing when to close a chapter of your life is important.
Also I had a dream to live in another country and I’m living there right now so it was a good trade off. :)
Sorry to hear about the sexism and troubles you faced during your time there! I hope you live a happy life in whatever country you're in now! Lots of love to you!
Japan is a racist Ethno state
You wouldn't have to face that sexism if you were in your husbands kitchen raising his kid.
I lived in Japan for 2 years and they were some of the most memorable years of my life. I lived in the countryside, learned to speak conversational Japanese (not fluent by any means but enough to get by), and that was enough to make wonderful, life-long friends who I still keep in touch with and visit. I loved living where I did, I felt safe and comfortable and while my wage wasn’t much, the cost of living was very affordable and I managed to save a lot. However, the work culture is what was difficult for me. My work environment was stressful and misogynistic and constantly having to mask/not speak my mind about certain topics was exhausting. I often say I would love to buy a home one day in the prefecture where I lived previously, but I couldn’t work in a similar work environment like that again.
Would you be comfortable sharing how it was misogynistic? I’m interested in going to Japan some day.
@@AndreChiii :v
The entire country is exhausting trying to fit in, it really isn't worth it. Once I learned enough Japanese I heard a lot of disrespect towards my race and I've found nobody is accommodating to any differences. It's really hard living in such a place and when you realize their countries just a mix of Chinese and American influences you choose either of the other ones, it's inferior.
@@jinseibanji_saiogauma wise words
Could you be self employed somehow? Work on your own outside a company?
I love Japan, I spent 5 weeks as a tourist recently. It’s my 6th time visiting. I’d definitely come back again to visit. But as a foreigner, if I decide to live as an expat, it would be in Southeast Asia because of the low cost of living and there’s more people that speak English or caters to expat populations. There’s less of a language barrier. So yeah Southeast Asia is where I want to live when i retire
very interesting. what a great perspective given to us thank you Sir
I just can't wrap my head around people who move to foreign countries for work/study for longer periods of time, without remotely being able to speak, or even unwilling to learn the local language.
I'd feel absolutely lost, especially on my own.
When you speak English, the world very easily caters to you. If you find a romantic partner, you might even find them not wanting you to learn the language and do things on your own
@@marw9541 They wouldnt want you to learn japanese? Why is that?
They are just entitled people
@@marw9541
Well, yes and no.. I'm from Germany, and even here, where most people learn English early on at school, you'll run into people who do not speak English. Be it because they forgot since they never had a use for it, or because they just don't want to.
And that can cause problems you don't want to have, especially when we talk about emergency or administration matters.
And about that _romantic partner_, I wouldn't even wanna deal with somebody like that, cause it sounds like a control freak who doesn't want me to be independent.. 😅
@@deafii441 It's not a consistent theme, it's more from my personal experience and what I have heard from friends and read online. But often as a foreigner, you have a much smaller social circle and few lifelong friends nearby (because obviously), so a foreign partner is rather reliant on their local partner. Some people like being needed, and that might be the nicest way that manifests. However some have streaks of jealousy and would just rather you not be able to communicate with 80% of the local female population. In addition, if you learn the language and start making your filings and doing all these parts of life without your partner, some can feel like they are becoming less useful. Sorry for the long reply. I would say at least 70% of local partners prefer you learn their language, but there's a pretty significant 30% that would prefer you didn't and that was more what I was speaking of. On top of that, I would say it's only half of that 70% earlier mentioned that wouldn't mind being your teacher, but that one I find understandable as someone who taught English professionally and then was requested to do lessons for your partner on other days.
Visiting Japan for the first time in a few weeks. I’m so excited!
You can feel his pain. That's how I felt when I was there. To have dedicated massive amounts of time to learning the language, to love a country SO much and to love it's people too, but without reciprocation. You'll never be in the club, and always kept at a distance. Almost like there's no point in being enthusiastic or hopeful.
Thanks for your fine work, Takashi san. You hit all the hard topics! Really great to hear what people think as locals, native, foreign, tourists… thanks man!
The first girl is so cute she had me laughing 😂 But I get what she means, it's hard to feel as "free" and "welcome" in a foreign country as you do in your own, so planning carefully what your goals are beforehand is useful. And everyone else agrees on the need for learning Japanese, not believing what anime tells you and people being extra polite haha. Thanks for sharing ~
There should be no reason to learn Japanese, English is compulsory in Japan education. Learning it will get you zero points in the country, you're simply not Japanese.
I went on a one-year student exchange to a Japanese university, and after a year, i was happy to go home. At the time that I left, I think I didn't expect I'd ever go back to Japan. If I remember correctly, I hoped to get a job with a Japanese company in LA or some other American city with a large Japanese community, but I wasn't all that interested at the time in going back to Japan itself.
But after a few years, I started to feel that Japan had "defeated" me, and I started to want to go back and try it over again. Eventually, I did, and I had a much better time living in Japan the second time.
I was a one-year student exchange and had a same feeling as you. And now I hope my second time in japan in future will be better like you 🥺 sorry My english is not good but when I read your comment I just feel the same way with you
amazing Video Takashi!! thank you
I really love the first girl's honesty. She said the realest stuff, state her opinion very bluntly,yet she managed not to be disrespectful.❤
Edit: the first girl from 0:13, not the first first girl from the preview
She showed disrespect. Analyse her comments properly. Even Takeshi walked off.
@@Foxy-gw3np He walked off because he has no game and no chance.
Cars and Cats. That is what I thought at first. Something about the dating aspects if it. But C&C, if you analyse what the lady stated in the first place, then other objectives surface. The Japanese are a proud people. I am sure that if other Japanese people watch this video and only those from native Japan, then the view could and only "could" become more in favour of a more negative point of view with regards to what the Korean lady is really trying to srate.
@@CarsandCats It's a very rude to say "I don't like Japanese guys" in front of a Japanese guy. This is not about being honest. It's just manners. She's very rude and I'm Korean.
@@whaledream8414 The truth is the truth. Hiding the truth is dishonesty. If you equate truth with rudeness, then I would look inward.
Even though her mother is Australian, I think Emily is in for a BIG culture shock by actually moving to Australia after living in Japan all her life.
For a non-Australian could you elaborate a little more?
@@nicolasprieto6117 Japan and Australia (or really any western country for that matter) is extremely different than Japan. Australia is just one example, the closest countries to Japan culturally are Taiwan or Korea, and moving from any of those countries to a western country (especially a multiethnic one) will cause extreme culture shock.
Yea Aus isn't as culturally friendly as she might think.
She's gonna taste a different style of racism. 😁😁
luckily her English is perfect, so she'll probably get on just fine.
Guy from Sweden seemed like a really cool guy.
I love your content. Im glad to watch, hear and experience japanese culture and foreign interactions through your channel. Thank you 🎉
So, I’m a Japanese/ American that has been living in Japan for almost 18 years. My first 11 years were spent here in visits lasting around 2 or 3 years while also returning to America. My job in Japan didn’t require me to know a lot of Japanese, so I didn’t learn as much as I should have. I did have 2 years of Japanese in college, but most Japanese people could pick me out as a foreigner because my English sounded like it came from a textbook. Now I’ve been living in Fukuoka for about 7 years as an Assistant Language Teacher in elementary and junior high schools. I talk to kids in English and, during break times, in Japanese. Though my Japanese has improved, all of my conversations use basic Japanese. The only things I don’t like about Japan would be that my job is on a yearly renewal system which is very frustrating having to potentially look for a new job every year. Second, I notice that even though my Japanese is getting better, people don’t usually correct me when I make grammar mistakes. Kids, on the other hand, have no problem correcting me. Though I enjoy living in Japan, I may have to leave to get a better job to support my family in a way that will improve our daily lives.
I heard foreigners teaching in Japan get paid very low and also have to work long hours.
@@antonyzhou6602 The pay in Japan is very low compared to most Western countries.
For a single person with no other financial obligations, it’s not a bad job. Average about $1600 to $2000 a month before expenses. Some teachers have other approved jobs to boost their income. How long you work depends on the contract between the company and the board of education. Right now I work from 8:20am to 4:00 pm, but if I have no classes scheduled after lunch I can leave at 2pm. Next year my contract has me working 8:50~4:30 with no option to leave early. Contract details can change every year.
@@chiyoleetch2041 I don't know how anyone lives on $24k/yr , even after Taxes , in any part of Japan. Sounds brutal. $24k is enough for rent and rice. That's about it, lol.
family comes first , so Ill say focus on leaving and getting a better job , but only when you are sure you can succeed in doing so
I lived in Tokyo for 2 years and loved my time there. I could visit Japan over and over again, it's always a treat to visit. But I don't think I could ever live in Japan long term again, especially now that I have a family.
As a Japanese, we are introvert also me,when I went to Philippines everyone was friendly and spoke to me. That’s courageous acting to talk with strangers for Japanese. Especially, Tokyo has the coldest mind.
the swede guy said it all! to be better accepted, not just in Japan, but anywhere, learning a little about the language, culture, general customs etc. doesn't hurt: its respectful and conveys consideration
It had to be a swede! ❤
I read many comments about being an outsider and feeling you don’t belong. I understand that, but I felt like that everywhere, even in my home country. At least in Japan, most people don’t care.
I’ve been called things in my hometown, Barcelona, for walking next to my bf (not even holding hands). I never had such experience in 12 years in Japan.
I lived 9 years in the UK & I had been thrown lit cigarettes to my face because I was wearing a mask 😷 (for the hay fever). Noone would be that vocal or aggressive in Japan for simply wearing something different.
In my own country, Spain, they frown at times if I speak Catalan outside Catalonia. I never had any bad experience in Japan because I spoke English or Spanish.
So there’s people like me who always feel like they don’t belong anywhere. If you are like that, perhaps you like Japan because at least in Japan most people mind their own business. You may not belong, but you can be yourself. It sounds contradictory, but that’s how I felt it.
Noone will go against you, and no one will support you in Japan, if you need help, if it's not official supported it won't happen. You'll have to put up with a lot of disrespect in Japanese as well. You can be yourself, but good luck getting a job doing that unless you integrate into a western style company (which i tried to start one there), or form a bubble of like minded friends. If you do that, you might as well live in a western society like Mexico or Caribbean or any other Spanish speaking country in South America. Japan will not adapt for any reason other than economic advantage.
So you're a reject in Europe and are accepted as a weirdo foreigner in Asia
I guess it just depends on your luck, when I was a bit younger I was on a date with Japanese woman in Shibuya and as we were getting off an elevator an older Japanese guy asked my date why she was with a white pig(He assumed i didn't understand Japanese) and I have unfortunately been subject to a variety of different racial slurs in Japan, in fact I was even attacked once but the police didn't take it seriously at all. I also know people who have had their entire lives ruined from a false accusation from a Japanese person without evidence...
Damn, you had a tough life.
But overall i feel you,
Me having same issues in my own country, like not fitting in, catchin a lot of looks since a kid, same was in another country.
and that's one of the reasons why I'm planning to move to Japan
Same here.
In Japan, I feel I can simply be myself. And, yes, in Japan, you are a weirdo simply because you are a foreigner, but, hey, there are also many Japanese weirdos, and Japanese ppl treat weirdos with at least superficial kindness and understanding. That's enough for me.
I am a Chinese and I dislike many things in my home country. Chinese ppl are of so closed and rigid minds. There are always thing/ways you should act/speak/think! In China, I always need to pretend, but the really hard thing is to keep myself not be converted to a typical and dull Chinese. You met 10 of them and find 8 or 9 of them are of basically the same mindsets, and the same things to be brought up in conversations! Someone above talked about "a bubble of like minded friends," and you can image in China you have a huge, near national-sized, bubble! It gives a great deal of identity and security if you are (or converted) into the bubble, but it just sucks otherwise.
I loved the mother who is going to Australia, talking about the social positives she wants for her son- wanting him to be open to communicating and be comfortable with all kinds of people. That was really wonderful.
yeah because with all of that woke bs culture going on, as a man he is going to fit in just fine lmao.
One of the best viewpoints I've heard about Japan.
Australian mom is kinda amazing. That is a very loving mother
@@susanwjoh0re735 woke is when other races exist
@@susanwjoh0re735 whoa why are you so hateful?
We used to live in Japan for a Year in 2015..... But after 6 months, i actually changed my mind and wanted to go back... I love Japan since i was a child... But when experience it in reality? It is not easy and a bit hard life and so forth... But i love the culture and beauty of Japan... But, not easy.
Hi Takashi,
I really enjoy what you do here.
I myself lived in Japan for fifteen years and lived in America until four years ago.
It has been a big culutural shock every day living back in Japan.
I am very grateful that you have opted to have this venue to express one`s feeling living in Japan as foreigner. 共感する部分が多い！
Thanks again！
J. Furuya
The Spainiard lady is wise - have no expectations and just go with the flow.
Worked in Japan for approximately 3 months per year, over a ten year period. Everybody in the company based in Europe hated the loneliness of working there because of the language barrier. Personally I improved my Japanese by watching children's television with English subtitles. Kids TV dont talk over each other and helped me through the chaos in the beginning. Japanese lessons were the big breakthrough though. That allowed me to watch adult content movies in Japanese. Lots of laughs at my expense because I speak Japanese with a "Gangster" attitude. I found that I was always included in group conversations because of my stumbling efforts amused others. "This idiot came over here and now talks like a Yakuza movie gangster" was always the joke made at my expense. Kept my sense of humour and joined in as best I could. Wonderful people who appreciated my unusual and chaotic conversation style. I found that my language failures were always accepted with kindness, assistance and humour. Great people.
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Very glad I stumbled on this video. Love how honest the people are about Japan and how they truly felt. Before I ever travel there I got to make sure I know basic Japanese lmao. I just started learning Hiragana and Katakana about a week ago, so I have ways to go.
It really depends on what you WANT out of your time in Japan. I’ve been coming here every year since 1988 and I consider Tokyo my “second home”. I love living in Tokyo, but I know (and have accepted the fact) that I’ll never BE Japanese. … and I’m ok with that. The small circle of casual friends that I have are enough for me. Some foreigners come here wanting desperately to integrate themselves into Japanese society. They might seek a wide circle of friends to party with every weekend like they easily do in their home country. It’s very hard if you’re that type of person who seeks constant , close, or deep interpersonal connections. You can certainly find like minded individuals and carve yourself a niche of happiness in Japanese society ….as long as you understand that you’ll never be part of the hive.
I spent just under a year living in Japan back in 2009. I moved there on a spouse visa after my partner at the time left Australia to move back to her hometown (Himeji). I was essentially living with her and her family most of the year, and I worked in a small izakaya a friend of mine owned in Osaka.
The big thing for me was pretty much what the Swedish guy was saying. Despite falling pretty comfortably into the culture, being fairly fluent in Japanese, and being in a long term relationship to a Japanese national, I always felt like I didn't belong. That's not to say I wasn't welcomed, but you'll always be an outsider, and usually treated as such. I'm sure it's improved over the past 14 years, but that's the big reason why we ended up moving back to Australia.
Absolutely amazing place to visit though. I've always said, if you have any interest in travelling, Japan easily tops the list of must travel destinations.
I agree with the first girl about how to learn japanese. Dating a Japanese person will give you a lot of motivation to do so and to keep learning lol. Even making Japanese friends will help a lot but if you are closer to someone then you will literally desire to learn, been like that for me. Obviously, don't date a Japanese person just for that.
Many polyglots are players. Fast and most enjoyable way to learn.
@@Maidaseu ah of course there will be people coming here totally missing the point. No, I literally said in the end that it should not be the main reason. It's not the most enjoyable way because it's the hardest way. Because there will be clash of cultures that won't be so problematic among strangers or just friends, but it will force you to learn to communicate better because you will have to deal with relationship issues and you will be forced to learn how to express yourself better so your Japanese lover will understand you and you will understand them, simply because you love them. I don't know why It needs to be said but apparently it has to be said. This is not to encourage dating Japanese people for any wrong reason, just like foreigners wouldn't want it if Japanese dated them just to practice english.
Comment le faire quant tu comprends que les japonais se fichent de l'amitié ils ne font aucun effort si tu ne maitrises pas quasi parfaitement leur langue? c'est IMPOSSIBLE!
@@marc9080 Of course it's impossible when you expect to get friends in Japan the same way like in western countries. My japanese is awful and yet I have a Japanese boyfriend and friends. But it took a lot of time. Japanese friendships develope very slow. of course it's not for all but it was in my experiences and with many others. Just because it's impossible for you, it doesn't mean it's for others. Also, you putting every Japanese person in one bag is probably why you can't make any friends. They are people and different like in any other country.
@@ganndalf202 Yet many of them have no issue generalizing foreigners, even with many assuming that people are English speakers just because they're not Asian. Not to mention all of the snide remarks many make about foreigners misbehaving in Japan, yet many of their own people are doing the same if not more in some cases.
You're an excellent interviewer and your subjects are very interesting. Congrats!
A very informative channel. Thank you, TAKASHii.
For those using the language card.... I have a friend with perfect Japanese who lives there for 12 years. Same story! No friends, no connections, nothing. So don't put pink glasses on thinking knowing the language will help you.
Concur. After a certain number of years you just get tired of the barren and cold “friendships” with Japanese and surround yourself with foreigners.
Don't you think that it might be an issue with the person rather than with the whole country? I see foreigners with Japanese wives or husbands, kids, friends, careers.
On the other side I've heard that opinion about being alone in Japan as a pretty common thing. Even for the native Japanese people.
Though it's definitely not an easy way.
Well that's just one person's experience that you're mentioning. Not saying it can't be that there are more people experiencing the same or a similar thing, I can very well imagine so, but to take your friend's story and simply conclude that learning the language doesn't help at all doesn't seem right.
@@olodesu it's definitely all of them because most Japanese will not think for themselves. They have a very group mentality to prevent breaking their false harmony. When the time comes inevitable that your interests run counter to most Japanese you will find no allies and be forced to either fatally compromise or leave.
@@ironhell808 Applying stereotypes to the entire nation is pretty racist imo. Nothing good comes from that way of thinking.
This is a good episode to reveal the truth , the merits and the shorts in Japan society n cultures , from the view of foreigners ! Appreciate the foreigners speak openly n their friendships & contributions to the society . Thank you for TAKASHii efforts n hard works ! Please continue to bridge the gaps 👍❤️🙏
It won't bridge nothing. The bigotry is exclusively Japanese. Takashi is like all Japanese, he only wants information. Neither he nor any other will do anything productive with it, at least not for any foreigners. He wants information for tactical advantage towards what the nihon see as an enemy in their midst. I don't know how many were seemingly listening to me only to completely ignore my concerns. Took me a bit to figure why they were bothering.
I constantly hear the points the Korean & Spaniard girl said. Even MrsEats has a video about how people fantasize Japan. Every culture has things you have to adopt, good or bad. Great video topic
Love your heart TAKASHii! Keep up the great work!
Takashii I love your videos and how the more you do them the more honesty you can bring out in people! These videos are so informative and give such a well rounded look, I think many people including myself have certain ideas about Japan that are incorrect, but no country is perfect or perfect for everyone! I would recommend your videos to anyone considering visiting or living in Japan so they know what to expect so they can enjoy their trip.
This is a very useful video, thank you Takashii 😊 I'm moving to Japan in a few months and it's helpful to hear from not only Japanese people but also foreigners in Japan about what to expect, how to mentally prepare, and what stands out as good or bad things about living there
I agree with what everyone said in the video. I also worked and lived in Japan for 4 years and left the country because of the working environment and of course the language. I am missing the food though and how convenient my life was when I was living in Japan. Would love to come back as a tourist and meet my friends again.
These people really have insights !