you should consider taking surge cannon out for nelassia tbh i got dps mvp in g1 and g2 with blue lancer but i don't think dps is what gunlancer main contribution in god groups you might not want the utility but covering the downtime of shields of your supports makes your whole groups life so much more comfortable
Nah nella doesn't matter to me, I get MVP on all content/gates our group does without it And I usually run with my static only so nella is useless to me when my supports got me, my supports/static aren't braindead so Unless my supports starts telling me people are taking way too much dmg and need my shields, I'm not touching nella, and only time I can see that happening is MAYBE abrel
I don't use nella either on my static, why somebody should take nella when the group has enough skills to not get hit in first place? also the bard on my group is always spamming dmg buff not heals, if you want a Gunlancer to shield you, then you're assuming you will get hit a lot, which means you're the problem, not his build.
@@CrisHermetica i mean you are dismissing a cleanse and a shield for what exactly? 2 points of destruction and 1-2% higher dps on the mvp screen? what is that on 2 billion health target you'd do 50-100m damage extra in the top 12 pure blue lancers in kr there is only 1 guy not using Nelassia just don't get hit and your god static groups is all fine and dandy but you will be griefing eventually by not using it i can't even find a video of blue lancers not using nelassia you are trying to reinvent the meta but you will eventually come to a realization that that ability is giga broken and you are just griefing your role hell even if you don't want to use the shield or cleanse it has a tripod that can give up to 40% more damage to your group 25% atk speed 25% move speed on top of the 25% damage it gives on its own even red lancers use that shit because it's one of the most stacked abilities in the entire game
@@MostWantedWannaBE I'm not trying to reinvent anything it's my Gunlancer, and it's how i play it, i know about the utility of Nella and i use it when is needed like in Valtan gate 1 for the cleanse or even Argos gate 1 for the pizza. I don't give a fuck your meta build people that just run meta builds are just being stuck at the bottom because you don't even understand what your skills do, you're claiming that Nella has a 40% more dps to the entire group when it's not correct the only thing that it can give is a 20% attack speed, that is not a 40% increase in dmg, don't be stupid. Also if you use that you're replacing the shield that you claim to be needed 100% of the times, so is it because of the shield or is it because you can give "40% more dmg" to the party? or maybe is it because you just watch guides and never learned how to play the class? Pls give me a break and go crying to somebody else because people don't follow "meta builds" that you can find in maxroll or from people that DON'T main the stupid class...
@@LemonyIvan it's okay, it might be something like virtual surround in your sound settings...? hopefully you can figure it out because we need more gunlancer content :)
@@steveburnspeople Yeah maybe... Thank you for pointing it out I would've never known... I reinstalled my drivers for my headset and I hear everything on this video on my left track now so I see what you guys are talking about, I will try to fix it!
Have you tried Shield Shock instead of Surge Cannon in Trixion DPS wise? I would be interested in the difference, if you would try it so. Thank You in advance !
Yes, I have been testing back and forth for the past few months. I still continue to do so, I have tripods and gems for both. Shield shock allows for a smoother rotation and easier uptime for adrenaline, but other than that it hits like a wet noodle. Dmg wise it will never win against the 4 main skills (gbolt, leap, charge, shield bash) and will at most even out in dmg with Surge, non crits. If surge crits it's soaring past shield shock (which it does in most cases with party synergy). If you want a smoother better playstyle, Shield Shock If you want to do more dmg, Surge This is all from my OWN testing and my own numbers, and based off my own experiences with using both. Not pushing anyone to use one over the other, but I also think gatekeeping surge is wack and isn't as bad as ppl make it out to be.
@@LemonyIvan Shield Shock also contributes quite a bit in CDR with Quick Recharge Rune and make all other spells make up for the damage loss between Surge and SS . Also it's not easy to test as party sínergies can't be applied in Trixion for true testing. For me the damage was quite similar mostly due to this and that i can take Quick Prep for leap and fit in every Bash rotation instead of Surge. Also with full Nightmare we lose 15% crit for Surge.
@@Mumee2008 Yea I use quick recharge on SS when I do testing, I also do test mainly Descaluda. I think on average the damage is very similar, but if you factor in crits, Surge will peak higher vs SS. My priority in a fight is fitting 2-3 dmg skills in my bash window, 3 if no surge, 2 if surge is included and usually I am able to fit all 5 of those skills in a bash window. I currently have 4pc nightmare/2pc poem and my avg crit per fight is around 45%~ with party synergy. But yeah I think both are viable really, it's a playstyle difference imo, both are great :)
@@LemonyIvan I'm quite unsure about which to use. I also think Surge should be a bit higher DPS, but in Trixion it's minimal difference. I'm also 4 nightmare 2 salva and 1500 ilvl. I don't have that many lvl10 Gems but lvl5 tripods. 22 weap with 76 quality.
@@Mumee2008 I think most importantly, whatever you have the most fun/feel the most comfortable doing It works for me and I feel comfortable playing with surge, I guess you go back and forth with testing until you get a definitive answer... But yeah #1 should be whatever you have the most fun using
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Why surge cannon? Doesnt it interrupt dps?
It interrupts dps as much as boss mechs or anything else during a fight
@@LemonyIvan but as a blue gl, doesnt shield stance help negate mech interruptions to an extent?
you should consider taking surge cannon out for nelassia tbh
i got dps mvp in g1 and g2 with blue lancer but i don't think dps is what gunlancer main contribution
in god groups you might not want the utility but covering the downtime of shields of your supports makes your whole groups life so much more comfortable
Nah nella doesn't matter to me, I get MVP on all content/gates our group does without it
And I usually run with my static only so nella is useless to me when my supports got me, my supports/static aren't braindead so
Unless my supports starts telling me people are taking way too much dmg and need my shields, I'm not touching nella, and only time I can see that happening is MAYBE abrel
I don't use nella either on my static, why somebody should take nella when the group has enough skills to not get hit in first place? also the bard on my group is always spamming dmg buff not heals, if you want a Gunlancer to shield you, then you're assuming you will get hit a lot, which means you're the problem, not his build.
@@CrisHermetica i mean you are dismissing a cleanse and a shield for what exactly?
2 points of destruction and 1-2% higher dps on the mvp screen?
what is that on 2 billion health target you'd do 50-100m damage extra
in the top 12 pure blue lancers in kr there is only 1 guy not using Nelassia
just don't get hit and your god static groups is all fine and dandy but you will be griefing eventually by not using it
i can't even find a video of blue lancers not using nelassia
you are trying to reinvent the meta but you will eventually come to a realization that that ability is giga broken and you are just griefing your role
hell even if you don't want to use the shield or cleanse
it has a tripod that can give up to 40% more damage to your group
25% atk speed
25% move speed
on top of the 25% damage it gives on its own
even red lancers use that shit because it's one of the most stacked abilities in the entire game
@@MostWantedWannaBE I'm not trying to reinvent anything it's my Gunlancer, and it's how i play it, i know about the utility of Nella and i use it when is needed like in Valtan gate 1 for the cleanse or even Argos gate 1 for the pizza. I don't give a fuck your meta build people that just run meta builds are just being stuck at the bottom because you don't even understand what your skills do, you're claiming that Nella has a 40% more dps to the entire group when it's not correct the only thing that it can give is a 20% attack speed, that is not a 40% increase in dmg, don't be stupid. Also if you use that you're replacing the shield that you claim to be needed 100% of the times, so is it because of the shield or is it because you can give "40% more dmg" to the party? or maybe is it because you just watch guides and never learned how to play the class? Pls give me a break and go crying to somebody else because people don't follow "meta builds" that you can find in maxroll or from people that DON'T main the stupid class...
the audio in the video is very unbalanced, makes me nauseous
Yeah my friends have the same problem but I don't hear it... I will try to fix it sorry
@@LemonyIvan it's okay, it might be something like virtual surround in your sound settings...? hopefully you can figure it out because we need more gunlancer content :)
@@steveburnspeople Yeah maybe... Thank you for pointing it out I would've never known... I reinstalled my drivers for my headset and I hear everything on this video on my left track now so I see what you guys are talking about, I will try to fix it!
Have you tried Shield Shock instead of Surge Cannon in Trixion DPS wise? I would be interested in the difference, if you would try it so. Thank You in advance !
Yes, I have been testing back and forth for the past few months. I still continue to do so, I have tripods and gems for both. Shield shock allows for a smoother rotation and easier uptime for adrenaline, but other than that it hits like a wet noodle. Dmg wise it will never win against the 4 main skills (gbolt, leap, charge, shield bash) and will at most even out in dmg with Surge, non crits. If surge crits it's soaring past shield shock (which it does in most cases with party synergy).
If you want a smoother better playstyle, Shield Shock
If you want to do more dmg, Surge
This is all from my OWN testing and my own numbers, and based off my own experiences with using both. Not pushing anyone to use one over the other, but I also think gatekeeping surge is wack and isn't as bad as ppl make it out to be.
@@LemonyIvan Shield Shock also contributes quite a bit in CDR with Quick Recharge Rune and make all other spells make up for the damage loss between Surge and SS .
Also it's not easy to test as party sínergies can't be applied in Trixion for true testing. For me the damage was quite similar mostly due to this and that i can take Quick Prep for leap and fit in every Bash rotation instead of Surge.
Also with full Nightmare we lose 15% crit for Surge.
@@Mumee2008 Yea I use quick recharge on SS when I do testing, I also do test mainly Descaluda. I think on average the damage is very similar, but if you factor in crits, Surge will peak higher vs SS. My priority in a fight is fitting 2-3 dmg skills in my bash window, 3 if no surge, 2 if surge is included and usually I am able to fit all 5 of those skills in a bash window. I currently have 4pc nightmare/2pc poem and my avg crit per fight is around 45%~ with party synergy.
But yeah I think both are viable really, it's a playstyle difference imo, both are great :)
@@LemonyIvan I'm quite unsure about which to use. I also think Surge should be a bit higher DPS, but in Trixion it's minimal difference. I'm also 4 nightmare 2 salva and 1500 ilvl. I don't have that many lvl10
Gems but lvl5 tripods. 22 weap with 76 quality.
@@Mumee2008 I think most importantly, whatever you have the most fun/feel the most comfortable doing
It works for me and I feel comfortable playing with surge, I guess you go back and forth with testing until you get a definitive answer... But yeah #1 should be whatever you have the most fun using
What ilvl are you?
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