He's the only one who I am willing to tolerate it from for the most part. Bret is arguably still the best in ring worker ever. So when he criticizes things it's worth hearing. Especially since most of the time Bret is right on the money.
@@Matt_Wilson01 You’re probably one of those that thinks Shawn Michaels was a great champion though even him and Nash were the two lowest draws in WWE history
@@michaelhauser6440 He could have but he didn't need it. He was great at performing, arrogant, cowardly and vicious when he had the advantage. A great guy to put people over.
@iggycieplinski2082 I know 0 about the territories, I'm an og WWF fan since the late 80s to mid to late 00s. I don't watch it now stopped when Cena was introduced I hated his cheesy rapping lol.
@MarquisLeary34 which is exactly what he was talking about. He was talking about induction into the WWF/WWE hall of fame, and how they were not a big draw for them. Yet they got inducted over more deserving candidates.
What Bret said about Andre and the Free Birds is true. Andre didn't respect anyone who disrespected the business. The Free Birds had a brief run in the WWF circa 1984, and they already had a reputation for working hard, but "partying" even harder. Andre had been an Icon since his debut in 1972, and everyone respected Andre. Andre was fed up with, from his pov, their unprofessional conduct outside the ring, and told them to leave and not come back. They told him that he didn't have the authority to do that. Andre went straight to Vince and essentially said, "either they go or I do." They got the boot, courtesy of Andre the Giant.
People can call him whiny or bitter, but Bret has always been extremely vocal and honest, about the business, he likes and dislikes and has zero filters.
Agreed. I always liked Buddy Roberts and Terry Gordy but Michael Hayes has to be the worst excuse for a wrestler ever. His schtick sucked. Gordy though was one legit tough SOB.
I saw them once in the mid 80s during their run in WCCW walking around in the West End of Dallas. It was about 11:00 pm and all three of them were hammered and seemed like they were looking for trouble. The only one that looked impressive in person was Terry Gordy.
@@GraemeCreeSo you're saying he's wrong about The Free Birds being inducted into the WWE Hall Of Fame even though they did nothing in the WWF whilst wrestlers who did do things in the WWF and deserve to be in there are not? 🤔🤔
@@acidmack1041 Lots of people in the Hall of Fame did nothing in the WWF. If he'd said that none of them belonged in there, that would be debatable. Abdullah the Butcher is far more debatable than the Freebirds (did nothing in the WWF, and arguably doesn't belong in any Hall of Fame).
For the old timers: Edouard Carpentier, he was an early high flier (Leaping Lanny studied his style), he trained André the Giant, was a former NWA champ and WWF interviewer and French match commentator at the age of 16, he was captured and imprisoned by German occupation forces. He was sent to a concentration camp outside Paris, but escaped captivity, and joined the French Resistance. After the war, he was awarded both the Croix de Guerre and the Croix du combattant medals for his service.
Bret Hart was serious about the wrestling business back then, and continues to be. He evolved to the realest thing of an arranged entertainment sport, which is mind-boggling in itself
Bret knows perfectly well that the Freebirds aren't in for anything they did in WWE. Neither is Nick Bockwinkel, who never wrestled in WWE at all. But the WWE Hall of Fame is really a Pro Wrestling Hall of Fame with special emphasis on WWE.
Great to see Bret Hart speaking so articulately after his stroke, and in such an honest, hilarious manner. In an era where even those doing "shoot interviews" are pulling their punches to avoid insulting anyone, one can always rely on Bret to tell the truth.
Having a stroke doesn't have a set list of symptoms, one can win a world championship game of chess after a stroke, it doesn't work as you seem to think it does.
Something tells me that Endeavor may remedy this situation judging by how Bret was on RAW recently. I think a lot of relationships are being repaired since Vince has been gone.
Thank you. One thing I hate about shoot wrestling interviews and they never mention when this interview took place. Thank you for letting us know this is an interview from 2016. Because Anvil has passed away since and now it makes sense.
As far as Owen goes it's not up to the WWE. It's Martha. Demolition was part of that big concussion lawsuit. A lot of the wrestlers were part of that lawsuit.
@@Brook11223 yep that's what I said. If you read my comment you would have seen that. I literally said it's up to martha. Do you need to have your reading comprehension skills updated?
Bret Hart is similar to a lot of wrestlers from yesteryear that are addicted to the fame. Owen, by all accounts, wasn't like that. Owen likely would've retired after he finished that last WWE contract, and he saw the business as simply a career. Martha realised that, and was bitter how WWE's negligence cost her husband his life. I believe if Owen could have his say, he would back his wife's decision over Bret.
An Owen Hart induction in the WWE Hall of Fame had always been a tricky one. Its been 25 years since Owen died from that tragic accident at Over the Edge 1999, I think the main reason why Mrs Hart refuses to have her late husband inducted is because she still has bad blood with the company and she fears the company may make a profit of using Owen's image for profit. I remember when Mark Henry was inducted into the Hall of Fame and he used his time to tearfully plead for Owen's induction. Where Bret Hart comes in, he's already a two time inductee, alongside his dad Stu, Jim The Anvil Neidhart, British Bulldog so far. Owen's induction is long overdue, its not for the company, its for the fans, the fans want Owen to be immortalized in the WWE Hall of Fame where he rightfully belongs. If money is the fear, how about any money that generated from the use of Owen's image of any kind should go towards that Foundation set up by Mrs Hart in Owen's name. Just a thought.
@filmbuff2777 honestly I can see current WWE doing it. It's not like they have to send all the money they make off Roman or Cody. Whatever money they make from Owen will be miniscule in comparison + it's good from a business/marketing perspective and they'd give alot of fans what they want
Alfred your interviews are top notch! It’s a shame that Owen still has not entered the WWE HoF! Martha Hart holds so much animosity towards the WWE and will not let them use the Owen Hart name or likeness! As far as Brett is concerned he holds so much anger and bitterness towards Vince, Triple H and Shawn Micheals and other pro wrestlers like the Freebirds, which was news to me! The white hot run in Dallas against the Von Erich’s, that feud was awesome! I hope some day he finds peace and tranquillity!
As a kid... of course I loved Bret.. or all the Harts. But Bret was to me.. as a kid.. always serious.. no nonsense. And Owen ( Especially his early babyface days ) made me always smile. He was like the "cooler, funny" younger brother with flips and tricks. And pls don't forget.. as sad as it is... unlike many other Wrestlers... Owens passing was not the result of self destruction and/or inner demons. It was someone elses mistake. Somebody who didn't do his job properly. Thank you Owen.
I watched that Dark Side of the Ring doc about Owen, his widow has every right to be furious with WWE for what happened to Owen. At the end of the day, it was a terrible accident, but it never should’ve happened. It was the saddest day in wrestling history imo. I understand her position not wanting Owen to be associated with WWE in any way, I can’t imagine her grief, but I don’t agree with her in not allowing Owen’s career to be celebrated. If she’s unable to forgive, then that’s all there is. Nothing you can do about it.
Owens career is celebrated. You don’t need the WWE to celebrate his career. Come on now. And I’ve been a WWE fan all my life. But they were partly responsible for what happened. No going around it. Owen’s kids don’t want him in the WWE Hall Of Fame as well. So honestly respect their wishes and move on.
Owen Hart will never be truly celebrated no matter what AEW or any other promotion does to promote him, because at the end of the day he will always be remembered as the WWE Wrestler for life no matter how much people want to disassociate him. Owen Hart at present is only known as the guy who tragically passed away in the ring rather than the wrestler he was, its a shame because Martha Hart have been holding back his legacy as she is still unforgiving for the incident even after years which is justified but at this point is hurting Owen's legacy. The day Martha Hart make amends and forgives WWE and actually let's WWE use Owen Hart to promote and maintain his legacy will be the day when Owen Hart legacy will truly be celebrated, because half of the legacy and all assets of him lies at the hands of WWE. Letting WWE truly honour Owen Hart legacy like they were supposed to do years ago and making them do the right thing and corrector wrongs. Until and unless the dark cloud surrounding Owen is gone his tragedy will remember rather than his legacy. That dark cloud needs to go for that Martha's forgiveness to WWE is a must.
@@sit2go Owen Hart's legacy is not truly celebrated, most fans still remembers him only as the guy who tragically passed away in the ring. All the people responsible for his death are gone from WWE. This is right moment for Martha Hart and WWE to reconcile and do the right thing, that is remove the dark cloud surrounding Owen's Hart legacy and career, until and unless Martha forgives WWE, the tragedy is the only thing people will be talking about, Yes, even if Martha forgives WWE their will be people who will still talk about his death but majority of the people will try to look for different way to celebrate his career rather than the way he passed away. Forgiveness is hard but if Martha doesn't do that no matter how many tournaments or legacy are held for Owen Hart, he will be forgotten by next generation and will be remembered as the guy who passed away in the ring. 90% of his legacy still lies with WWE and young people can only know of his greatness, if the legacy is shared by WWE themselves and for that to happen Martha needs to forgive, her bitterness will one day be the end of Owen's legacy death, and the legacy of his death is more worst then him passing away.
It's really harder for his fans. WWE will get on with it maybe give it a thought once or twice a year? I think of Owen everytime I play WWE2K. BRET is my all time GOAT and I'd love to have the full Hart Foundation. I want to make Bret and Owen tag team champions
Owen being apart of AEW when he died 20 years after inception seems nastier after hearing Bret talk. We all know Martha only signs off to stick it to WWE
This interview was in 2016. The Hart Foundation was inducted in the WWE HOF in 2019. Bret always maintains a sincere manner. Even when expressing his opinions, he gives clear reasons for them. Martha said that she would "never let a company I held responsible for Owen's death try to honor him, especially with a fake HOF that doesn't exist." She meant "fake HOF" because it's not a physical HOF. There are other HOFs apart from WWE that could induct Owen like the National Wrestling HOF. I know that there's no limit to what grief can do to a person, especially after a tragedy that Martha and the Hart family experienced. Even after all the years pass, nobody truly "gets over" what happened.
Its not just the wwe/f, she doesnt want his name attached to anything involving wrestling. Her bitterness has caused Owens name to become less and less known. And eventually fade away. Hate to say it but, this is why they used to leave a mans possessions and legacy to his brothers/father, and not the wife.
@@JayG724 Thanks for that info. Wonder how much they paid her that. AEW has nothing to do with Owen. I still think his legacy should be in his blood relatives hands.
@@Myrridan19 So, if Martha was all for WWE exploiting her dead husband for profit, & Bret was the one against it, would you be saying that? I doubt it.
When I was very young, my foster Aunt was "dating" the cuban assassin from grand prix wrestling. So long ago. I was visiting my aunt and foster aunt one day and Sweet Daddy SIki was there. He was so freaking kind and he made me feel so special. I remember flexing, he squeezed my biceps and made me feel like I was jacked. I may have been 6-8 years old.
think his point was in terms of WWE,. I'm not sure Freebirds were that over or significant there. I do understand the WWF owns the rights to all of this stuff, but Bret believes WWE legends should be highlighted.
@@kyleday5026 is wrong? Dude he's Bret Hart a wrestling legend You're just Kyle day lol. Who are you to say he's wrong? Not only that but that's his freaking family. You know I meant mjf once and I asked him what kind of fans are the most annoying. He said the know it all fans like you. He said all the boys really despise the fans who've never stepped foot in a ring and have never wrestled a match but want to act like they know everything about it.
@@shadycnetwork he needs to understand where martha is coming from and his kids and he did not go through what martha went through with vince after owen died martha has proven she has standards and morals bret has shown he doesnt months ago he was saying triple h is a bad booker then last week hes hugging him and went back to we after everything
@@shadycnetworkhis widow already cleared all of this up. The fact that she’s involved with AEW is proof that she does what his legacy to be remembered and enjoyed - just not with the WWE.
@@bradlee3109 It's not too far of a stretch to assume that most of the good ol' boys from the Southern territories in the 80s and earlier used a lot of racist language backstage.
Most likely the Reason The Freebirds are in is because 1. They were the first to use Music to the Ring, something extremely important to the Attitude Era..and 2. Micheal Hayes as an agent, helped Austin decide to use the Stunner as a Finish, helped many promos and helped booking....Bret really deminishes Micheal Hayes here
michael also suggested that bret will use the sharpshooter and also talked with the inventor of the move (riki choshu) to make sure it's ok with him that bret will use his move
It's been 25 years since Owen's death, Martha feeling the way she does is one thing and it's understandable. But Bret isn't as much pandering for the WWE it's he wants his brother to be remembered for what he did and the contributions he brought. People loved him, the locker room loved him. Take the WWE out of it, think about Bret's perspective on his brother's legacy. It's more about remembering him, a lot of great memories fans don't get to see because Martha want allow it. A lot of it has to do with Vince, and Vince is gone now..
I can understand Martha Hart’s point of view. The WWE were negligent in ensuring they had a proper rigger for the harness Owen was to operate. Owen ended up senselessly falling to his death all for a stupid stunt that went wrong. At least Martha has allowed AEW to remember Owen Hart as a phenomenal wrestler. Frankly, the WWE’s overlook cost Martha Hart her husband and her children their father.
But almost 30 years later and you’re going to tell me she has not moved on. She has never date anyone. Yes Owen was a tragedy but now is lost in time now. AEW is just stupid for a Owen tribute. I did not really care. I agree with Bret, you can’t bring him back but for gods sake let him be remembered
@@charlesparsons3861 And how is Martha preventing you from remembering him? How is a phony internet hall of fame from WWE the only way to remember him? Why can't WWE give all of their footage of Owen to Martha & tell her to release her own stuff? Bret has said he wanted Martha dead so Owen can get inducted. He is a disgusting narcissist & a hateful misogynist.
If you're going to shit on The Freebirds for not doing much in WWF, you have to shit on Verne Gagne, the Von Erichs (minus Kerry,) The Four Horsemen, and Antonio Inoki, too.
True, but many also lacked wrestling skill, Junkyard Dog, Rufus R. Jones, Tony Atlas, Bearcat Brown, Sailor Art Thomas...BUT Sweet Daddy Siki. He was talented & later became a hell of a trainer whose school graduated some of the best...Christian, Edge, Zakk Wylde, El Fuego & Tiger Ali Singh (ignore his WWE run)
Dont really think you can blame Martha for taking the stance she has. I get where Brets coming from but to Bret he was a wrestler, not just a brother. I've heard Martha and her kids talk about Owen, he's wasn't a wrestler to them, he was husband, he was dad, he was a damn good one, and due to negligence he's no longer here. Its perspective, we're wrestling fans who love Owens work but Martha and her kids? They loved Owen the man, its just not the same thing.
Bret is always gonna be a childhood hero of mine. & He never hid from anything he did in his past outside of the ring but he never let anything he wemt through change him as a man. & That's why I love him. ❤❤❤
@@kidwaryodproduction I agree with each and every H.O.F. possessing flaws that could be improved upon/removed/even engrained into the foundations on which they've been built..however - of all these Hall of Fames - clearly none are perfect - but in life you very seldomly come across anything - wether physical or intangible or corrupt or weighed down beauracraticly if I were to pick which I believe is the most respectable and carries the most credibility - I think the basketball Hall of Fame has to be #1 and I believe by quite a wide..WIDE - very wide margin - in my opinion leaps and bounds above and beyond those that would vie for second place.. I believe an absolutely integral piece of making it so is the fact that it is clearly stated AND is ALWAYS making sure the distinction of it being a - or THEE rather - it being The BASKETBALL Hall of Fame rather than the "NBA Hall of Fame" or a "Basketball Hall of Fame..created by the NBA" is probably the most important factor that lends itself to the respect and credibility it has created and maintained for itself and I think is a shame that it is overshadowed by the MLB and the NFL halls of fame respectively due to either it not being in the news cycles as much - which is a shame because those two it seems only recieve the notoriety BECAUSE of the constant controversies they find themselves in on an almost annual basis..which is a shame because it's almost as if the incompetence and scandalous lauded behavior contributes in them getting rewarded with more publicity over those - or on this subject - the one that deserves it for it's respectability.. Also I believe it treats its members - wether veterans or media or coaches or any other category - with the largest "say" of them also..I mean it isn't ENTIRELY ran by those because then it would just into a yearly popularity contest of those already in..I do feel they do hold a pretty close to the perfect amount of respect/power that grants them the ability to hold the line - gatekeeping it's entrance enough so as to maintain it's credibility - but with enough of a checks and balances system so that a person with a checkered or disdained personal life cannot be held out of it - mostly because of journalistic integrity(i know..right?? Thought it went extinct too lol) willing to go to bat on behalf of players who were Hall of Fame on the court but "Falls of Shame" off of it.. which results in deserving players who were hated upon by their peers don't pay the price from "an account" on their play on the hardwood - for bills accumulated off of it.. Last thing: I absolutely love how you can be initiated multiple times due to each induction being categorized into the several varying avenues available to each potential inductee.. Varying from but not limited to: Amateur/High School/College/Olympic/GoodWill Games/Professional(NBA)/Professional(overseas/non-NBA) As Players/Coaches/Executive/Media(both broadcasting and editorial and now digital media) For a potential inductees : - play - records - talent (short career perhaps marred by injuries or disaster or other factors - possibly resulting in an unworldly peak that was cut short(just as an example) - longevity/cumulative stats - effect upon winning(as either player coach gm executive owner etc. or two or three or all) - ambassadors of the game(perfect representatives of sportsmanship/the growth and spread of the game) - major contributions to evolvement of the game through a number of different ways both tangible and intangible - wether from customizations of the hardware(playing surface/balls/backboard and rim/arenas/shoes(and the intangibles such as but not limited to): rules/schedules/expansions etc.. - and my personal favorite..or most interesting to me perhaps is better description is OFFICIALS/REFEREES As I believe that shining a light on this darkest aspect of sports - especially THIS one - can only help advance the advancement of quality of the game that can be provided to making it as equal and removing as much human error as possible... Sorry for this rabbit hole I ended up in somehow lol i hope you enjoyed my Ted Talk lol so embarrassing
I love Bret. My personal favourite. However, his stance on Martha is something i can't get behind. Her husband was killed by sheer incompetenc, and icouldd never understand the pain that Martha and Owens children are left with. Nah man, Bret is wrong there imo. If it weren't for the "screwed" dvd potentially being made, Bret himself woulda' remained bitter to this day about a phucking career incident in 1997. The Owen situation is far FAR worse. Respect to Martha and the children of Owen, may you one day be at peace with an absolutely avoidable terrible situation.
@WrestlingNostalgia101 of course he has that right. However, an opinion differs from saying Owens widow needs "psychoanalysis" He should take his own advice, maybe he'd stop bitching about Goldberg at almost every opportunity But, what do I know ? He's from a family who'd do sell out their own grandmother for that wwe bag..
@WrestlingNostalgia101 nah, he's said countless times Martha is wrong for her stance that Owen won't be entering the HoF. I agree with her completely. Why would you have the company make money off the image and likeness of the man they were responsible for killing due to their sheer incompetence. Would you return to a company that was responsible for your brothers death? I know I wouldn't. Does that mean Bret Hart values his own legacy over his own brother ? That's for you to decide. Personally, my respect for Bret Hart has greatly diminished.
Obviously Bret was wrong about Martha, she just didnt want the company that killed Owen to exploit the death they caused for money. She allowed Owen to be celebrated by AEW, so obviously she has nothing against fans or wrestling, just WWE for killing him. Good for her not selling out, especially considering the pressure she was getting from even her family..... shes a real one.
While you think this way, WWE didn’t kill Owen. The company’s equipment malfunction and was a defect product that wasn’t tested before use. If anyone who should be upset is her for not suing the right company that killed her husband. For her to do that in AEW is messed up and should not have happened because he never worked for WwE.
That was wrong owens wife did and I am on Bret’s side. He never stepped foot in AEW so that was shady of her. She also sued the wrong company because it was NOT WWE fault, it was the manufacture that gave WWE a defect product and didn’t test it before Owen was going to do his entrance.
I respect everything Bret has done and been through professionally and personally. But he’s gonna say The Freebirds never drew a dime and they didn’t contribute anything to wrestling. ? While Bret was jobbing in the territories early on in his career , The Freebirds were drawing money everywhere they went. They were innovating the industry with entrance music, the first real faction in wrestling and they were known world wide. And you wanna downplay Texas? In the prime days of Texas, Texas was just as big and important as The WWF in my opinion. Also Their TV reached more viewers than The WWF during the syndication days. And Bret wishes he could cut a promo better than any of the Freebirds.I wish Bret would stop being so bitter . It’s very old.
@@lilkunta-q5f indeed. They were very important in the history of the business. And to call them nothing but pill-heads when two of them aren’t alive to defend themselves is seriously disrespectful.
Bret dodged the point about Booker T only really holding the second place title at the time. It's also hard to believe Bret's claim that whoever the WWE's top guys were since the 80s was decided completely on pop-based merit. We KNOW that's not true, even for white stars. Backstage politics have always been in a thing and even back in the 80s and early 90s stars like Hogan infamously held down some who were getting pops that rivaled his, like Jake Roberts. He even interfered with Bret's time at the top which Bret has complained about in the past even though now he's claiming it's always been about merit in order to handwave away any notions of bias against black champions.
Of course the interviewer tries to downplay Booker T being a 5 time World Heavyweight champion as a silver medal while also ignoring Ron Simmons being WCW World Heavyweight champion God I despise race grifters
I generally agreed with what Bret was saying here except for two points. While the Freebirds didn't do anything in the WWE there was no need to discount their careers as whole. They drew tons of money and crowds all across the south in their heyday and laid the foundation for every cool heel group that came afterwards. I also find comparing the Hart Foundation's importance to that of the 4 Horsemen to be slightly laughable. That's not to tale anything away from the Hart Foundation but they are not the 4 Horsemen.
Owen woulda been HOF years ago and now under the new leadership he could really be HOF, but his wife is the one refusing it cant put him in the HOF if his wife and kids aint there hapoy for it, u could and have Bret there but even then what if she decides to go to social media and shame the company for doing so? I could be wrong right now and i honestly hope im wrong but i dont think Martha ever seen a Owen match and i dont think his kids were allowed to watch, i relate it to if Vanessa Bryant never watched NBA and told the NBA i will sue you if you put Kobe in the HOF just leave us alone and stop saying his name 🤷♂️
@@kyleday5026 no I totally understand how they feel but I think if they knew exactly how big of a deal he was they would understand he has to be in the HOF I honestly don't think they know who he is, I think they just know he wrestled and died I don't think they know how legandary the hart family is or how Owen was top 10 in ring performers of all time for them I think it's a "who cares about that stupid wwe HOF"
I agree with the Rougeau Brothers, Rick Martel and Rick Rude although I think that Rick Rude was already inducted in the WWE Hof some years back. Ronnie Garvin was so respected by André the Giant that he let him pin him clean in a tag match. He and Jimmy Garvin had a great rivalry in the Montreal territory that involved the father of the Rougeaus.
Free Birds should be in wrestling H.O.F maybe not the WWF but they were maybe the greatest 3 man tag team there's more to wrestling then WWF but yes Ric Rude , Hart Foundation also should be in and Owen wife have bad feelings towards the WWF world you can't blame her , he died because they made him do a stupid act but the HOF should be guys from Mid South all the territories.
That's how I feel about Dusty Rhodes. Did he do much in the WWF? No other places he was great. I'd love to ask Bret how he heels about Dusty Rhodes being in there
Bret’s problem is he’s one of those people who for their entire lives have had people tell them how great they were. That’s why he has such an inflated ego. From a pure entertainment standpoint, I would take the Freebirds any day over him.
Then you have poor taste. And Bret's point about the Freebirds was that they were a big deal in Texas, not in the WWF. It's the WWF Hall of Fame. Owen Hart was a bigger star at the national level than the Freebirds too btw.
Lmao Bret is hilarious! He almost threw a stray at JR! He be getting his shit off on these old wrestlers every chance he gets! He roasted the free birds! 😂
The interview took place in 2016. I almost missed that note. Plus the Hart Foundation were inducted in the HOF shortly after Jim's death. When WWE announced that they were announcing the Foundation's induction, I kind of wondered if Jim's death might have played a factor. I could be dead wrong about that--no pun intended--but if that was even partially the case, that's really a sad thought.
Bret Hart is just hateful AF lol. The Hall of Fame happens every year, how is it he wants only the people he likes in the Hall of Fame? He disrespects the Freebirds for their drug usage yet celebrates Davey Boy Bulldog and Dynamite Kid as if the both of them weren’t roided and drugged up throughout their careers
Some very good points Bret ! So many great wrestlers that have been passed up and by talent that were not WWF big time. The Hart Foundation should be in.
Bret taking pro wrestling so seriously is why he became great and successful. If he had the same indifferent attitude that the marks criticizing him do, or even screw-ups like the Freebirds or Kevin Nash, no one would know his name, or care about him.
Bret shitting on other wrestlers is a guilty pleasure of mine
Damn right!!!
He's the only one who I am willing to tolerate it from for the most part. Bret is arguably still the best in ring worker ever. So when he criticizes things it's worth hearing. Especially since most of the time Bret is right on the money.
@@silver6kraidyeah the guy that never drew a dime hahaha 🤦♂️
@@Matt_Wilson01My step dad and I bought tickets to 2 house shows with Bret in the main event back in the early 90s. He was my favorite at one time.
@@Matt_Wilson01 You’re probably one of those that thinks Shawn Michaels was a great champion though even him and Nash were the two lowest draws in WWE history
Rick Martel is a great shout, Guy kept the mid card interesting.
Could’ve had a great Intercontinental run as The Model
@@michaelhauser6440 He could have but he didn't need it. He was great at performing, arrogant, cowardly and vicious when he had the advantage. A great guy to put people over.
He had some credible title reigns too with the AWA world, and WWF tag champ three times.
@iggycieplinski2082 I know 0 about the territories, I'm an og WWF fan since the late 80s to mid to late 00s. I don't watch it now stopped when Cena was introduced I hated his cheesy rapping lol.
@@stevebrooks8875🫡🫡🫡 Thank You For Saying That.
Rick Martel The forgotten AWA World Heavyweight champion. Give this man some respect
I agree..
His arrogance vignettes were hilarious
The model!!! 🫡
Bret is the most honest voice in the industry.
Not true, anvil niedhart, Davy boy, and his partner all druggies and steroids. Bret lives in a glass house and likes to throw stones.
Never mistake angry with honest, Bret has a long history of taking himself too seriously.
His words hurt people in the ass, but they're true. 💯
But not always the most accurate. The Freebirds did draw money, just not for the WWF, so his point is only half righ ton theirs.
@MarquisLeary34 which is exactly what he was talking about. He was talking about induction into the WWF/WWE hall of fame, and how they were not a big draw for them. Yet they got inducted over more deserving candidates.
What Bret said about Andre and the Free Birds is true. Andre didn't respect anyone who disrespected the business. The Free Birds had a brief run in the WWF circa 1984, and they already had a reputation for working hard, but "partying" even harder. Andre had been an Icon since his debut in 1972, and everyone respected Andre. Andre was fed up with, from his pov, their unprofessional conduct outside the ring, and told them to leave and not come back. They told him that he didn't have the authority to do that. Andre went straight to Vince and essentially said, "either they go or I do." They got the boot, courtesy of Andre the Giant.
Bret may come off as bitter or "whiny" to some people, but dude is generally spot on.
I agree. People don't like that he speaks the truth.
People can call him whiny or bitter, but Bret has always been extremely vocal and honest, about the business, he likes and dislikes and has zero filters.
Agreed. I always liked Buddy Roberts and Terry Gordy but Michael Hayes has to be the worst excuse for a wrestler ever. His schtick sucked. Gordy though was one legit tough SOB.
Nah, he's generally just a bitter loser.
Blindly "positive" people always label those who have negative opinions as such no matter how justified they are in those opinions
Michael Hayes drank so much that he looked 70 when he was only 45. I thought he was the Hardy Boyz grandpa. 😂
I saw them once in the mid 80s during their run in WCCW walking around in the West End of Dallas. It was about 11:00 pm and all three of them were hammered and seemed like they were looking for trouble. The only one that looked impressive in person was Terry Gordy.
@@toddrunyon Terry Gordy was amazing until he got sick on that flight to Japan. That illness really did a number on him.
"Lookin' good, boys. Lookin' REAL good! Doot, Doot!"
Awful bloated face and mullet
Maturing is realizing Bret is usually right.
No. Maturing is agreeing with MOST things he says despite always belly aching about something.
You have no idea if he's right or not, you're just rubber-stamping anything he says.
@@GraemeCreeSo you're saying he's wrong about The Free Birds being inducted into the WWE Hall Of Fame even though they did nothing in the WWF whilst wrestlers who did do things in the WWF and deserve to be in there are not? 🤔🤔
@@acidmack1041 Lots of people in the Hall of Fame did nothing in the WWF. If he'd said that none of them belonged in there, that would be debatable. Abdullah the Butcher is far more debatable than the Freebirds (did nothing in the WWF, and arguably doesn't belong in any Hall of Fame).
That's not maturing, that's guessing.
For the old timers: Edouard Carpentier, he was an early high flier (Leaping Lanny studied his style), he trained André the Giant, was a former NWA champ and WWF interviewer and French match commentator at the age of 16, he was captured and imprisoned by German occupation forces. He was sent to a concentration camp outside Paris, but escaped captivity, and joined the French Resistance. After the war, he was awarded both the Croix de Guerre and the Croix du combattant medals for his service.
Yeah he was later on french versions of WWF like Gorilla Monsoon he would do play by play with Ray Rougeau
I'm glad to hear Bret's take on Owen, he needs to be remembered . Owen was awesome. R.I.P. OWEN
He was such a a good heel
Owen is remembered genius, a fake hof won't make any difference
Bret Hart was serious about the wrestling business back then, and continues to be. He evolved to the realest thing of an arranged entertainment sport, which is mind-boggling in itself
Bret knows perfectly well that the Freebirds aren't in for anything they did in WWE. Neither is Nick Bockwinkel, who never wrestled in WWE at all. But the WWE Hall of Fame is really a Pro Wrestling Hall of Fame with special emphasis on WWE.
I do agree with Bret about the Freebirds not doing a thing in WWF..
Rick Martel needs to be in the WWE Hall Of Fame.
Great to see Bret Hart speaking so articulately after his stroke, and in such an honest, hilarious manner. In an era where even those doing "shoot interviews" are pulling their punches to avoid insulting anyone, one can always rely on Bret to tell the truth.
That was decades ago in the 00s already.
I'm glad my speech wasnt screwed up by my stroke. My mouth curls a little and sometimes I have to repeat myself
This was in 2016
so? Do you know what a stroke is
Having a stroke doesn't have a set list of symptoms, one can win a world championship game of chess after a stroke, it doesn't work as you seem to think it does.
Something tells me that Endeavor may remedy this situation judging by how Bret was on RAW recently. I think a lot of relationships are being repaired since Vince has been gone.
It's Owens wife
You marks are pathetic. Owen wife is blocking it no one else
Brian Pillman should have been in the HOF years ago.
Hell yeah
Nah. He could have been anything, but he died to young and didn’t actually achieve what he could have.
Sid too
@@Giveme1goodreason he was about the same age as bray Wyatt when he passed.
Why? He was mid-card in WCW and mid-card in WWF. With one really memorable moment
Thank you. One thing I hate about shoot wrestling interviews and they never mention when this interview took place. Thank you for letting us know this is an interview from 2016. Because Anvil has passed away since and now it makes sense.
I never thought he is bitter, he just speaks his mind
Thing is he ain't even bitter he just gives his two Canadian Cents
As far as Owen goes it's not up to the WWE. It's Martha. Demolition was part of that big concussion lawsuit. A lot of the wrestlers were part of that lawsuit.
If you watch the interview Bret says that Owen's widow is not allowing his brother to be in the Hall of Fame.
@@Brook11223 yep that's what I said. If you read my comment you would have seen that. I literally said it's up to martha. Do you need to have your reading comprehension skills updated?
@@shadycnetwork He said that in the interview and you are repeating what he said.
Vince is not at WWE anymore so they will get in.
Bret Hart is similar to a lot of wrestlers from yesteryear that are addicted to the fame. Owen, by all accounts, wasn't like that. Owen likely would've retired after he finished that last WWE contract, and he saw the business as simply a career. Martha realised that, and was bitter how WWE's negligence cost her husband his life. I believe if Owen could have his say, he would back his wife's decision over Bret.
Bret has such a way with words you can listen to him talk about wrestling for hours. He speaks from the heart and speaks the truth.
1:06 My guy looking like “This dude real af. This why I fuxx with The Hitman.”
Respect to the Legendary Bret Hart and The Hart Foundation...❤️💐🖤
Bret Hart has absolutely zero fucks to give and I love him for it!
An Owen Hart induction in the WWE Hall of Fame had always been a tricky one. Its been 25 years since Owen died from that tragic accident at Over the Edge 1999, I think the main reason why Mrs Hart refuses to have her late husband inducted is because she still has bad blood with the company and she fears the company may make a profit of using Owen's image for profit. I remember when Mark Henry was inducted into the Hall of Fame and he used his time to tearfully plead for Owen's induction. Where Bret Hart comes in, he's already a two time inductee, alongside his dad Stu, Jim The Anvil Neidhart, British Bulldog so far. Owen's induction is long overdue, its not for the company, its for the fans, the fans want Owen to be immortalized in the WWE Hall of Fame where he rightfully belongs. If money is the fear, how about any money that generated from the use of Owen's image of any kind should go towards that Foundation set up by Mrs Hart in Owen's name. Just a thought.
I think that's a great idea
WWE would NEVER agree to give all profits to the foundation.
If you watch the Dark Side of the Ring episode on Owen, she makes a great point.
I left watching that thinking she had every right to hold a grudge.
@filmbuff2777 honestly I can see current WWE doing it. It's not like they have to send all the money they make off Roman or Cody. Whatever money they make from Owen will be miniscule in comparison + it's good from a business/marketing perspective and they'd give alot of fans what they want
wasn't it Jeff Jarret who was crying for Owen to being inducted while Martha was in the crowd during his HOF speech?
Goldust/ Dustin Runnels is LONG overdue for the HOF.
Bret is always calm, cool, and collected. He's spot-on when he speaks.
Alfred your interviews are top notch! It’s a shame that Owen still has not entered the WWE HoF! Martha Hart holds so much animosity towards the WWE and will not let them use the Owen Hart name or likeness! As far as Brett is concerned he holds so much anger and bitterness towards Vince, Triple H and Shawn Micheals and other pro wrestlers like the Freebirds, which was news to me! The white hot run in Dallas against the Von Erich’s, that feud was awesome! I hope some day he finds peace and tranquillity!
Go listen to Jericho's podcast with Martha and maybe you'll gain some perspective.
As a kid... of course I loved Bret.. or all the Harts. But Bret was to me.. as a kid.. always serious.. no nonsense. And Owen ( Especially his early babyface days ) made me always smile. He was like the "cooler, funny" younger brother with flips and tricks. And pls don't forget.. as sad as it is... unlike many other Wrestlers... Owens passing was not the result of self destruction and/or inner demons. It was someone elses mistake. Somebody who didn't do his job properly. Thank you Owen.
I watched that Dark Side of the Ring doc about Owen, his widow has every right to be furious with WWE for what happened to Owen. At the end of the day, it was a terrible accident, but it never should’ve happened. It was the saddest day in wrestling history imo. I understand her position not wanting Owen to be associated with WWE in any way, I can’t imagine her grief, but I don’t agree with her in not allowing Owen’s career to be celebrated. If she’s unable to forgive, then that’s all there is. Nothing you can do about it.
Don’t believe everything you see on Dark Side of the Ring
Owens career is celebrated. You don’t need the WWE to celebrate his career. Come on now.
And I’ve been a WWE fan all my life. But they were partly responsible for what happened. No going around it.
Owen’s kids don’t want him in the WWE Hall Of Fame as well. So honestly respect their wishes and move on.
Owen Hart will never be truly celebrated no matter what AEW or any other promotion does to promote him, because at the end of the day he will always be remembered as the WWE Wrestler for life no matter how much people want to disassociate him.
Owen Hart at present is only known as the guy who tragically passed away in the ring rather than the wrestler he was, its a shame because Martha Hart have been holding back his legacy as she is still unforgiving for the incident even after years which is justified but at this point is hurting Owen's legacy.
The day Martha Hart make amends and forgives WWE and actually let's WWE use Owen Hart to promote and maintain his legacy will be the day when Owen Hart legacy will truly be celebrated, because half of the legacy and all assets of him lies at the hands of WWE. Letting WWE truly honour Owen Hart legacy like they were supposed to do years ago and making them do the right thing and corrector wrongs.
Until and unless the dark cloud surrounding Owen is gone his tragedy will remember rather than his legacy. That dark cloud needs to go for that Martha's forgiveness to WWE is a must.
@@sit2go Owen Hart's legacy is not truly celebrated, most fans still remembers him only as the guy who tragically passed away in the ring. All the people responsible for his death are gone from WWE. This is right moment for Martha Hart and WWE to reconcile and do the right thing, that is remove the dark cloud surrounding Owen's Hart legacy and career, until and unless Martha forgives WWE, the tragedy is the only thing people will be talking about, Yes, even if Martha forgives WWE their will be people who will still talk about his death but majority of the people will try to look for different way to celebrate his career rather than the way he passed away. Forgiveness is hard but if Martha doesn't do that no matter how many tournaments or legacy are held for Owen Hart, he will be forgotten by next generation and will be remembered as the guy who passed away in the ring. 90% of his legacy still lies with WWE and young people can only know of his greatness, if the legacy is shared by WWE themselves and for that to happen Martha needs to forgive, her bitterness will one day be the end of Owen's legacy death, and the legacy of his death is more worst then him passing away.
It's really harder for his fans. WWE will get on with it maybe give it a thought once or twice a year? I think of Owen everytime I play WWE2K. BRET is my all time GOAT and I'd love to have the full Hart Foundation. I want to make Bret and Owen tag team champions
I gotta disagree about the freebirds. They didnt do anything much in WWE, but the freebirds were huge in wrestling
Owen being apart of AEW when he died 20 years after inception seems nastier after hearing Bret talk. We all know Martha only signs off to stick it to WWE
Can you blame her? He only died due to their negligence.
@@jesuszamora6949 None of the people involved are even still with the company
@@jesuszamora6949 his brother forgave them.
@@jesuszamora6949and aew is worse with the violence
@@jesuszamora6949 aew had the audacity to do a drop from the rafters spot with Martha's permission. Martha is contradicting herself at this point.
This interview was in 2016. The Hart Foundation was inducted in the WWE HOF in 2019. Bret always maintains a sincere manner. Even when expressing his opinions, he gives clear reasons for them. Martha said that she would "never let a company I held responsible for Owen's death try to honor him, especially with a fake HOF that doesn't exist." She meant "fake HOF" because it's not a physical HOF. There are other HOFs apart from WWE that could induct Owen like the National Wrestling HOF. I know that there's no limit to what grief can do to a person, especially after a tragedy that Martha and the Hart family experienced. Even after all the years pass, nobody truly "gets over" what happened.
Its not just the wwe/f, she doesnt want his name attached to anything involving wrestling. Her bitterness has caused Owens name to become less and less known. And eventually fade away. Hate to say it but, this is why they used to leave a mans possessions and legacy to his brothers/father, and not the wife.
@@DmanDiceshe was just on AEW like two months ago for the Owen Hart tournament. It’s just WWE.
@@JayG724
Thanks for that info. Wonder how much they paid her that.
AEW has nothing to do with Owen. I still think his legacy should be in his blood relatives hands.
That was the original version, which was Bret Hart and Jim Neidhart they need the 97 version to get him and Brian Pilliman in also.
Thanks for the clarification. Bit baffled about the Rick Rude part cos I'm sure he was inducted in 2017/18
Damn. Not even his dead brothers wife is safe from the wrath of Bret! Lol
Siblings usually know each other better than husband/wife
Lol ur a fool lol
You just made my day so funny
@@Myrridan19 So, if Martha was all for WWE exploiting her dead husband for profit, & Bret was the one against it, would you be saying that? I doubt it.
Bret Hart has said more vile things about Martha than he has for thugs like Jimmy Snuka, Dynamite Kid & Chris Benoit.
Wow, Brett does not hold back. You have to respect his brutal honesty.
Hayes contributed to WWE way more in the management sphere than he could ever have dreamed as an in ring guy
When I was very young, my foster Aunt was "dating" the cuban assassin from grand prix wrestling. So long ago. I was visiting my aunt and foster aunt one day and Sweet Daddy SIki was there. He was so freaking kind and he made me feel so special. I remember flexing, he squeezed my biceps and made me feel like I was jacked. I may have been 6-8 years old.
Michael Hayes cutting a promo on Andre is legendary.
Bret is just pro WWF...but seriously disagree with his view on the Freebirds...but I guess they were just too wild for the 80s WWF anyway..
No Ivan Koloff, no credibility and Rougeau's over Freebirds? Gate receipts, popularity and longevity would argue that
think his point was in terms of WWE,. I'm not sure Freebirds were that over or significant there. I do understand the WWF owns the rights to all of this stuff, but Bret believes WWE legends should be highlighted.
I agree with Bret on Martha.
hes wrong because owen died in wwe and does not want her husband associated with it also had had a lot of problems with vince
@@kyleday5026 is wrong? Dude he's Bret Hart a wrestling legend You're just Kyle day lol. Who are you to say he's wrong? Not only that but that's his freaking family. You know I meant mjf once and I asked him what kind of fans are the most annoying. He said the know it all fans like you. He said all the boys really despise the fans who've never stepped foot in a ring and have never wrestled a match but want to act like they know everything about it.
@@shadycnetwork he needs to understand where martha is coming from and his kids and he did not go through what martha went through with vince after owen died martha has proven she has standards and morals bret has shown he doesnt months ago he was saying triple h is a bad booker then last week hes hugging him and went back to we after everything
Nothing MJF said has anything to do with this it's her choice just like it's Bret choice to have a grudge with Goldberg
@@shadycnetworkhis widow already cleared all of this up. The fact that she’s involved with AEW is proof that she does what his legacy to be remembered and enjoyed - just not with the WWE.
Rick rude is in the hof
Looks like he went in shortly after this interview was done. Interview is 2016, HOF induction was 2017.
Not to bright are you ? This interview is years old 😂
@@KINGMONKEY1989 2016 so that's 8 years. But there's still truth to what was mentioned in the interview.
Yeah, The Anvil was alive at the time of this intie :(
Well, I can't blame the OP. I was a bit confused too@@KINGMONKEY1989
It's cool hearing these kinds of discussions rather than people going on about TV ratings and demos.
When snoop dog was put in I think that said it all!
I don't wanna take away anything from any of them...then proceeds to take away everything from all of them. I love you, Hitman.
I wish owen was in wwe games
Same
Me too
With the NUGGET chant included.
@fmthebaron I saw him once behind the arena of the WWF venue. I chanted "nugget" with reckless abandon. He looked at me in disgust then went inside.
Blame his widow then
The HOF is still a Vince creation so it makes sense why Martha doesn’t want him in it.
No black WWE champs? Uhh… Kofi? Bobby Lashley? The Rock? wtf lol this guys a goof…
He meant in our era
@@coltonconner782Bobby Lashley, Kofi, and Big E were in this era weren't they?
@@thundabytevanguard9542 80’s n early 90’s
That octopus statue has me memorized, i can't stop looking at it!
Well the freebirds did wear confederate flags and Hayes did use the N word on mark henry so
I’m sure he was the only wrestler that said the N word
@@michaelhauser6440nope. Ric Flair said it all the time.
@@bradlee3109 It's not too far of a stretch to assume that most of the good ol' boys from the Southern territories in the 80s and earlier used a lot of racist language backstage.
Booker T used the N word.
@@daviejz6698 even more facts
Most likely the Reason The Freebirds are in is because 1. They were the first to use Music to the Ring, something extremely important to the Attitude Era..and 2. Micheal Hayes as an agent, helped Austin decide to use the Stunner as a Finish, helped many promos and helped booking....Bret really deminishes Micheal Hayes here
michael also suggested that bret will use the sharpshooter and also talked with the inventor of the move (riki choshu) to make sure it's ok with him that bret will use his move
Owen hart ex wife does not want anything do with wwe.
If I was her, I wouldn’t either.
I usually agree with Bret but on this one I have to side with Martha. I can definitely understand her point of view
It's been 25 years since Owen's death, Martha feeling the way she does is one thing and it's understandable. But Bret isn't as much pandering for the WWE it's he wants his brother to be remembered for what he did and the contributions he brought. People loved him, the locker room loved him. Take the WWE out of it, think about Bret's perspective on his brother's legacy. It's more about remembering him, a lot of great memories fans don't get to see because Martha want allow it. A lot of it has to do with Vince, and Vince is gone now..
Thats not his ex wife thats his widow
Brett was always stand-up,and it'll never stop. I'll always respect him his work and dedication to the craft!
He is bang on. How they put people in that never even worked in WWE is stupid.
Bret said, “Please hold my beer!”
Props to Bret for being so open about Owens wife. Wish we had more documentaries, figures, and content for Owen
I can understand Martha Hart’s point of view. The WWE were negligent in ensuring they had a proper rigger for the harness Owen was to operate. Owen ended up senselessly falling to his death all for a stupid stunt that went wrong. At least Martha has allowed AEW to remember Owen Hart as a phenomenal wrestler. Frankly, the WWE’s overlook cost Martha Hart her husband and her children their father.
But almost 30 years later and you’re going to tell me she has not moved on. She has never date anyone. Yes Owen was a tragedy but now is lost in time now. AEW is just stupid for a Owen tribute. I did not really care. I agree with Bret, you can’t bring him back but for gods sake let him be remembered
@@charlesparsons3861 And how is Martha preventing you from remembering him? How is a phony internet hall of fame from WWE the only way to remember him? Why can't WWE give all of their footage of Owen to Martha & tell her to release her own stuff?
Bret has said he wanted Martha dead so Owen can get inducted. He is a disgusting narcissist & a hateful misogynist.
Wow this interview is from 2016 and Sweet Daddy Ziki just passed away a few days ago. Bret was and always is spot on.
If you're going to shit on The Freebirds for not doing much in WWF, you have to shit on Verne Gagne, the Von Erichs (minus Kerry,) The Four Horsemen, and Antonio Inoki, too.
Wrestlers like former WWE champion Sid justice and women’s champion Victoria should be inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame
Black wrestlers often had no gimmicks.
Junkyard dog was super popular and he worked the crowds.
In the 90s Ahmad Johnson was said to have gotten big pops for a stretch but didn't get WWF title shots.
@@BUPMY1 And everyone backstage hated him for his selfishness, and his lazy/dangerous ring work that injured several wrestlers.
@@ergoat I can understand the 2nd parts. But plenty of selfish wrestlers got the belt.
True, but many also lacked wrestling skill, Junkyard Dog, Rufus R. Jones, Tony Atlas, Bearcat Brown, Sailor Art Thomas...BUT Sweet Daddy Siki. He was talented & later became a hell of a trainer whose school graduated some of the best...Christian, Edge, Zakk Wylde, El Fuego & Tiger Ali Singh (ignore his WWE run)
Bret is still my fave of all time!
Man Bret has something to say about every wrestler ever except for Sting. I wonder why ?
Sting is universally liked and respected in the Wrestling industry. Why would Bret have something bad to say about him?
Hes right
Rick Rude and Demolition should be in
Dont really think you can blame Martha for taking the stance she has. I get where Brets coming from but to Bret he was a wrestler, not just a brother.
I've heard Martha and her kids talk about Owen, he's wasn't a wrestler to them, he was husband, he was dad, he was a damn good one, and due to negligence he's no longer here.
Its perspective, we're wrestling fans who love Owens work but Martha and her kids? They loved Owen the man, its just not the same thing.
I usually agree with Bret but yeah, I’m with you on this one too.
Bret is always gonna be a childhood hero of mine. & He never hid from anything he did in his past outside of the ring but he never let anything he wemt through change him as a man. & That's why I love him. ❤❤❤
Every single hall of Fame I can think of is a joke. From WWE to NFL, to rock n roll, etc.
Funniest thing was, Honky Tonk Man once said about Hall of Fame was a joke.
*Then later induct in Hall Of Fame* 😅
@@kidwaryodproduction I agree with each and every H.O.F. possessing flaws that could be improved upon/removed/even engrained into the foundations on which they've been built..however - of all these Hall of Fames - clearly none are perfect - but in life you very seldomly come across anything - wether physical or intangible or corrupt or weighed down beauracraticly if I were to pick which I believe is the most respectable and carries the most credibility - I think the basketball Hall of Fame has to be #1 and I believe by quite a wide..WIDE - very wide margin - in my opinion leaps and bounds above and beyond those that would vie for second place..
I believe an absolutely integral piece of making it so is the fact that it is clearly stated AND is ALWAYS making sure the distinction of it being a - or THEE rather - it being The BASKETBALL Hall of Fame rather than the "NBA Hall of Fame" or a "Basketball Hall of Fame..created by the NBA" is probably the most important factor that lends itself to the respect and credibility it has created and maintained for itself and I think is a shame that it is overshadowed by the MLB and the NFL halls of fame respectively due to either it not being in the news cycles as much - which is a shame because those two it seems only recieve the notoriety BECAUSE of the constant controversies they find themselves in on an almost annual basis..which is a shame because it's almost as if the incompetence and scandalous lauded behavior contributes in them getting rewarded with more publicity over those - or on this subject - the one that deserves it for it's respectability..
Also I believe it treats its members - wether veterans or media or coaches or any other category - with the largest "say" of them also..I mean it isn't ENTIRELY ran by those because then it would just into a yearly popularity contest of those already in..I do feel they do hold a pretty close to the perfect amount of respect/power that grants them the ability to hold the line - gatekeeping it's entrance enough so as to maintain it's credibility - but with enough of a checks and balances system so that a person with a checkered or disdained personal life cannot be held out of it - mostly because of journalistic integrity(i know..right?? Thought it went extinct too lol) willing to go to bat on behalf of players who were Hall of Fame on the court but "Falls of Shame" off of it.. which results in deserving players who were hated upon by their peers don't pay the price from "an account" on their play on the hardwood - for bills accumulated off of it..
Last thing: I absolutely love how you can be initiated multiple times due to each induction being categorized into the several varying avenues available to each potential inductee..
Varying from but not limited to:
Amateur/High School/College/Olympic/GoodWill Games/Professional(NBA)/Professional(overseas/non-NBA)
As Players/Coaches/Executive/Media(both broadcasting and editorial and now digital media)
For a potential inductees :
- play
- records
- talent (short career perhaps marred by injuries or disaster or other factors - possibly resulting in an unworldly peak that was cut short(just as an example)
- longevity/cumulative stats
- effect upon winning(as either player coach gm executive owner etc. or two or three or all)
- ambassadors of the game(perfect representatives of sportsmanship/the growth and spread of the game)
- major contributions to evolvement of the game through a number of different ways both tangible and intangible - wether from customizations of the hardware(playing surface/balls/backboard and rim/arenas/shoes(and the intangibles such as but not limited to): rules/schedules/expansions etc..
- and my personal favorite..or most interesting to me perhaps is better description is OFFICIALS/REFEREES
As I believe that shining a light on this darkest aspect of sports - especially THIS one - can only help advance the advancement of quality of the game that can be provided to making it as equal and removing as much human error as possible...
Sorry for this rabbit hole I ended up in somehow lol i hope you enjoyed my Ted Talk lol so embarrassing
I think that most HOF inductions happen not by achievements, but by who you know. I could say another reason but I'd better not LOL.
love how interviewer got into a race debate without even knowing the facts and bret corrected him right away lol
I love Bret. My personal favourite. However, his stance on Martha is something i can't get behind. Her husband was killed by sheer incompetenc, and icouldd never understand the pain that Martha and Owens children are left with.
Nah man, Bret is wrong there imo. If it weren't for the "screwed" dvd potentially being made, Bret himself woulda' remained bitter to this day about a phucking career incident in 1997.
The Owen situation is far FAR worse.
Respect to Martha and the children of Owen, may you one day be at peace with an absolutely avoidable terrible situation.
Bret has a right to his opinion he and Owen were close as hell.
@WrestlingNostalgia101 of course he has that right.
However, an opinion differs from saying Owens widow needs "psychoanalysis"
He should take his own advice, maybe he'd stop bitching about Goldberg at almost every opportunity
But, what do I know ? He's from a family who'd do sell out their own grandmother for that wwe bag..
And Bret is Owen's brother and the two of them were close. Martha isn't related by blood, only by marriage.
@@krisel8405 He said she needed that because that;s her job title, he was just plsaying to that
@WrestlingNostalgia101 nah, he's said countless times Martha is wrong for her stance that Owen won't be entering the HoF.
I agree with her completely. Why would you have the company make money off the image and likeness of the man they were responsible for killing due to their sheer incompetence.
Would you return to a company that was responsible for your brothers death? I know I wouldn't.
Does that mean Bret Hart values his own legacy over his own brother ? That's for you to decide.
Personally, my respect for Bret Hart has greatly diminished.
You were never as over as a group of the freebirds. Owen did not do enough
Obviously Bret was wrong about Martha, she just didnt want the company that killed Owen to exploit the death they caused for money. She allowed Owen to be celebrated by AEW, so obviously she has nothing against fans or wrestling, just WWE for killing him. Good for her not selling out, especially considering the pressure she was getting from even her family..... shes a real one.
While you think this way, WWE didn’t kill Owen. The company’s equipment malfunction and was a defect product that wasn’t tested before use. If anyone who should be upset is her for not suing the right company that killed her husband. For her to do that in AEW is messed up and should not have happened because he never worked for WwE.
That was wrong owens wife did and I am on Bret’s side. He never stepped foot in AEW so that was shady of her. She also sued the wrong company because it was NOT WWE fault, it was the manufacture that gave WWE a defect product and didn’t test it before Owen was going to do his entrance.
Rick Martel & Owen Hart were so underrated 💯
Rougeau Bros over Freebirds? Man stop. He said that bc of Canada. Lol
Nah, he said that because the Freebirds did literally nothing in WWE and the freebirds that were remotely decent in WCW were Hayes and Garvin
@@dnice2000 he's 100% correct on that part. I was mainly saying that bc of the Rougeaus.
@@BigStash no doubt
But over all you gotta pick the Birds really, as a matter of fact all three Birds an Garvin won way more titles then Bret
@@dnice2000 The Freebirds best years weren't even IN WCW though. Georgia Championship and World Class were their shining years.
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Why does he still do appearances for WWE, then?
This interview was from 2016, so he's obviously moved on since then.
It's just for online traction, to get the algorithm going since he recently appeared in WWE. Shitty move but a smart one.
I respect everything Bret has done and been through professionally and personally. But he’s gonna say The Freebirds never drew a dime and they didn’t contribute anything to wrestling. ?
While Bret was jobbing in the territories early on in his career , The Freebirds were drawing money everywhere they went. They were innovating the industry with entrance music, the first real faction in wrestling and they were known world wide.
And you wanna downplay Texas? In the prime days of Texas, Texas was just as big and important as The WWF in my opinion. Also Their TV reached more viewers than The WWF during the syndication days.
And Bret wishes he could cut a promo better than any of the Freebirds.I wish Bret would stop being so bitter . It’s very old.
They didn’t do any of that in WWF though, which is why Bret questions their place at a WWE hall of fame
Bret Hart has a point. This mean current National Wrestling Alliance (NWA) owner Billy Corgan needs to re-establish the NWA Hall of Fame.
@@lilkunta-q5f indeed. They were very important in the history of the business. And to call them nothing but pill-heads when two of them aren’t alive to defend themselves is seriously disrespectful.
Best there is. Best there was. Best there ever will be.
Thank you Bret for standing up for black wrestlers , I always knew the Hit Man was a real one !!!
Bret dodged the point about Booker T only really holding the second place title at the time. It's also hard to believe Bret's claim that whoever the WWE's top guys were since the 80s was decided completely on pop-based merit. We KNOW that's not true, even for white stars.
Backstage politics have always been in a thing and even back in the 80s and early 90s stars like Hogan infamously held down some who were getting pops that rivaled his, like Jake Roberts. He even interfered with Bret's time at the top which Bret has complained about in the past even though now he's claiming it's always been about merit in order to handwave away any notions of bias against black champions.
Great to see you sound and look so professional considering how crazy this channel gets lol (which I love)
Of course the interviewer tries to downplay Booker T being a 5 time World Heavyweight champion as a silver medal while also ignoring Ron Simmons being WCW World Heavyweight champion
God I despise race grifters
Inferiority complex ✊🏾✡️
I generally agreed with what Bret was saying here except for two points. While the Freebirds didn't do anything in the WWE there was no need to discount their careers as whole. They drew tons of money and crowds all across the south in their heyday and laid the foundation for every cool heel group that came afterwards. I also find comparing the Hart Foundation's importance to that of the 4 Horsemen to be slightly laughable. That's not to tale anything away from the Hart Foundation but they are not the 4 Horsemen.
Everything Bret in this interview are so true. He's the most honest individual when it comes to speaking their minds.
Dang Bret what did the Freebirds do to you
They were shit
He's not wrong
Its what they didnt do that was the problem.
How about all the hart in-laws that were druggies and steroiders.
Weren’t you listening?
Hopefully, this all changes. While The Freebirds did a lot outside of WWE, he is right about how many people deserve being in the HOF more.
Owen woulda been HOF years ago and now under the new leadership he could really be HOF, but his wife is the one refusing it cant put him in the HOF if his wife and kids aint there hapoy for it, u could and have Bret there but even then what if she decides to go to social media and shame the company for doing so? I could be wrong right now and i honestly hope im wrong but i dont think Martha ever seen a Owen match and i dont think his kids were allowed to watch, i relate it to if Vanessa Bryant never watched NBA and told the NBA i will sue you if you put Kobe in the HOF just leave us alone and stop saying his name 🤷♂️
martha and his kids dont want him in the wee hall of fame its the place where he died no one can blame her did u not watch dark side of the ring
@@kyleday5026 no I totally understand how they feel but I think if they knew exactly how big of a deal he was they would understand he has to be in the HOF I honestly don't think they know who he is, I think they just know he wrestled and died I don't think they know how legandary the hart family is or how Owen was top 10 in ring performers of all time for them I think it's a "who cares about that stupid wwe HOF"
Why would Martha Hart do ANYTHING to help promote the company responsible for the manslaughter of her husband?
They did Vader and Vicious dirty.
Dude Rick rude and Davey boy Smith were both junkies.
Brian Pillman and Jim Neidhart as well.
Ye but they did a lot at WWF!
soo you know that to be true more than Bret the guy who was with them?
And Kurt Angle, Jeff Hardy, Chris Candido...need I go on?!
Makes them even bigger legends!! ❤️ 😍 💖 ❣️
I agree with the Rougeau Brothers, Rick Martel and Rick Rude although I think that Rick Rude was already inducted in the WWE Hof some years back. Ronnie Garvin was so respected by André the Giant that he let him pin him clean in a tag match. He and Jimmy Garvin had a great rivalry in the Montreal territory that involved the father of the Rougeaus.
Free Birds should be in wrestling H.O.F maybe not the WWF but they were maybe the greatest 3 man tag team there's more to wrestling then WWF but yes Ric Rude , Hart Foundation also should be in and Owen wife have bad feelings towards the WWF world you can't blame her , he died because they made him do a stupid act but the HOF should be guys from Mid South all the territories.
The Freebirds didn’t do anything in the WWF, but the Freedirds are a HOF team. They were the ultimate tag team heels in the 80’s.
That's how I feel about Dusty Rhodes. Did he do much in the WWF? No other places he was great. I'd love to ask Bret how he heels about Dusty Rhodes being in there
@@kingoffarts8352 I’m sure Bret wouldn’t say that about Dusty
Brett is a stand up guy no matter what the haters might say. A legend in and out of the ring!
Bret’s problem is he’s one of those people who for their entire lives have had people tell them how great they were. That’s why he has such an inflated ego. From a pure entertainment standpoint, I would take the Freebirds any day over him.
Then you have poor taste. And Bret's point about the Freebirds was that they were a big deal in Texas, not in the WWF. It's the WWF Hall of Fame. Owen Hart was a bigger star at the national level than the Freebirds too btw.
Rick Martel as “the Narcissist” was an amazing heel.
They gave that to Lex Luger at one point before the all American gimmick but... I also understand what you meant towards Rick, he's gimmick was good.
Lmao Bret is hilarious! He almost threw a stray at JR! He be getting his shit off on these old wrestlers every chance he gets! He roasted the free birds! 😂
He's 100% right! How is the Heart Foundation not in the hall of fame?
How old is interview? Jim Neidhart passed in 2018
The interview took place in 2016. I almost missed that note. Plus the Hart Foundation were inducted in the HOF shortly after Jim's death. When WWE announced that they were announcing the Foundation's induction, I kind of wondered if Jim's death might have played a factor. I could be dead wrong about that--no pun intended--but if that was even partially the case, that's really a sad thought.
Congratulations on the great interview! What I'd do to get Bret Hart on my podcast.
Bret Hart is just hateful AF lol. The Hall of Fame happens every year, how is it he wants only the people he likes in the Hall of Fame? He disrespects the Freebirds for their drug usage yet celebrates Davey Boy Bulldog and Dynamite Kid as if the both of them weren’t roided and drugged up throughout their careers
They showed up though. Freebirds didn't make it 1 day
@@dnice2000they drew big money down south. Typical Hitman Butt Hurt talking shit.
@@dnice2000 The Freebirds weren't even a shadow of their southern promotion days by that time.
Bret's such a WWE Mark. 80's NWA was far better
God this dude is always miserable
Why watch if you don’t appreciate a cantankerous old man?
@@michaelhauser6440 I just hoped at some point Bret would find peace, call me crazy but that’s really sad if he never does
Some very good points Bret ! So many great wrestlers that have been passed up and by talent that were not WWF big time. The Hart Foundation should be in.
Politics are in all workplaces smh even Wrestling...😡🤢🤮
Hart Foundation, Owen Hart, Demolition and Rick Rude not being in the HOF is criminal.
Bret needs therapy and to let things go
Because he’s pissed his brother isn’t in the Hall of fame?
@@bradtennant8078no his past traumas on his life and career
Therapy is a work.
Bret taking pro wrestling so seriously is why he became great and successful.
If he had the same indifferent attitude that the marks criticizing him do, or even screw-ups like the Freebirds or Kevin Nash, no one would know his name, or care about him.