I can see watercooled cards being the future. With the size of coolers needed now surly its the cheaper option to slap a waterblock on them. Would like to see "pre built" water cooling also. So you buy a unit with rad, block, res, and they come with 4 pipes 2 for the cpu and 2 for the gpu. Just plug and play quick connect/disconnect. I know this already exists but i can see it becoming a standard with every PC.
It's also the present for me, as my reservoir (behind front rad) already prevents me to put a GPU more than 280mm long (and I have a rather big Phanteks P600S case...) 😂
@@SlavaBagmut they exist already for top end cards, but i can totally see a standardization of quick connect watercooling in the near future. thankfully AMD won't be so quick to even need it.
I have the air cooled Powercolor Red Devil and...you get similar improvement over a stock 7900XTX, albeit with higher temps/fans. Except mine was +$50 over reference price, and this is +$XXX over the reference cooler. And people have reported nice undervolts/overclocks on the reference cooler, too. Generally the GPUs that cost +$200 or more over reference just don't give you enough raw performance to justify that price, though some people might prefer to water cool or whatever.
You have to compare it price wise vs buying an air cooled card + a waterblock really. Most waterblocks for the XTX are around that $200 mark so what are you gonna do
The fact it comes with an ek water block almost makes this a no brainer for watercooled builds. the red devil is 1100+the ek red devil block is another 277. That makes that combo 1377. The liquid devil is 1400. $23 to keep your warranty and not have to instal the block yourself seems like a no brainer. (pricing was in the US, ymmv). If you dont have to pay for shipping on the liquid devil you instantly save money because shipping from ek to the us is around 20-40 bucks.
I guess at the top of the line performance/€ goes out the window and you want performance for *almost* any money. But heck even with that mindset the premium on this one is too much to justify, so much so it starts falling in line with products that are like made with gold for no other reason than "yes why not".
@@ironhelix45 EK blocks make no sense though, when you can get a cheaper bykski, higher quality similar price heatkiller, or spend more for better performance from something like Optimus. And in the US, disassembling your card cannot void the warranty anyways, just put the old cooler back on if you have to RMA it and you're fine. It's what I did when I rma'd my 3090 out of my loop.
@4fiHysteria byskie needs to have a block available to be able to use them. Right now they don't even have a 7000 category on their own website. They have one for preorder at 194. Ekwb at least has 7900 blocks available to buy and ship out now. Byskie's one block that I saw was for the sapphire nitro +. That card starts at 1200. Add the 200 for the byskie block and you are at 1400, same price as the liquid devil without the hassle of needing to install the block yourself. Also, I didn't mention that it came with the loop leak test kit. 30 bucks right there. Now I know not everyone will use that, but it is added for free. Don't get me wrong, I get that most of the time buying a pre-blocked card costs more than doing it yourself. In this case, purchasing in the US, the liquid devil makes a lot of sense because the cost of the card and block is comparable to buying the base card and base block itself. Most budget blocks that are out for the 7900xtx are for reference only. If you want an aib block your options are limited. I didn't see a heat killer block in my search, same with byskie until recently with their preorder of the sapphire nitro + block. Ekwb is a reliable brand that you can generally always trust the quality of their product. It isn't unreasonable to consider them as a gold standard of the industry. They are the only ones that I have seen with more than one aib block. Availible now, they have the Asus tuf and reference cards with the red devil cards launching at the end of March early, April. They are also the only brand that I've seen that actually has a tab for the 7000 series gpu. Not trying to shill for ekwb but when it's been 3 months since the launch of the card, and you plan on making a waterblock for the card maybe you should have a tab on your website to advertise that you are in fact going to sell blocks for that line. Edit: never heard of Optimus and just looked at their stuff, they don't even make amd card blocks, so why bring them up?
So we need now to Sapphire do their: TOXIC Radeon 7900XTX. But this Power Color Liquid Devil is a monster. I hope they get pre-binned better chips like in 6950XT Red Devil. Now we need to Micron do some 24Gbps GDDR6 memory and we will se 7950XTX :D
It looks awesome! For me though, with that difference in price and the fact it is a strictly water cooled card, there should be a higher power limit than it has or at least the ability to increase it higher than it does without having to mod the bios. Personally the "unleashed" bios should have a bigger difference than it does. Other than that it looks to be a great card!
Just use the card as it as and save the money for a future upgrade. This so called tuning to get a few fps here and there is a waste of time and is only good for those with no jobs or those on RUclips making videos.
@@wantedyou2346 and you should shut up. Just... let people do what they want! Who cares if it's a waste of time, only people that don't have time would say that
I own the "normal" 7900 XTX Red Devil, and at stock bios in COD DMZ, I'm getting peak hot spot of 94 degrees Celcius, in a Lian Li Lancool3 with 6 140mm Corsair Performance Elite fans and 3 120mm fans, same type, installed below the Red Devil. You DO need a lot of case cooling for these power draws. I ended up undervolting 1% in Redeon software, that makes a hot spot difference of about 5 degrees. Coil wine is only audible on some game menus that are not frame capped and run at like 1000 fps. In properly FPS limited menus, you can't notice the coil wine... I'm happy I kept it AMD, from my former 6950XTX Red Devil to this one was just unplug and plug the same the 3 PCIE power cables, done :) ( weird thing was that W10 and the latest 6950 driver, did not like my 7900XTX rightaway, it had to be uninstalled, reboot, install , 2 or 3 reboots, then it was done )
I wonder if you could improve the coil whine using the same trick that CRT manufacturers used in the 80s and 90s: potting them in wax, or adding glue to the sides. Back then the reason for the whine was the horizontal beam deflection transformer being driven with a sawtooth wave at 15.6kHz. Would be interesting to see you add some hot glue to the sides of the inductors on a card with loud coil whine and see if it reduces it significantly. You could also try something more permanent like epoxy or cyanoacylate, although you'll probably want to try those on a cheaper card than this one!
@@sammiller6631 i have a 1300w platinum PSU, and have a brutal coil whine. It's a seasonic model, and the coil whine is terribad. Electricy is clean where i live. it's the card. (I have a liquid devil)
@@TheHighborn You should see the Guts of my Corsair AX1500i Power Supply, it's LOADED with DAM Epoxy on EVERY COIL,and I mean EVERY ONE!! They dumped a BOAT Load of that 💩! It's not Built by Seasonic,the usual OEM, but Flextronics,a HIGH END manufacturer. And it shows! NOT a SPEC out of place on this board! ANANDTECH was afraid to take that stuff apart,cause it was so THICK AND MASSIVE! They didn't want ANY WHINE out of THAT! But I LUV IT! Been on 2 Compys now,this one,my Ryzen RiG.
I went all out this time and bought a PowerColor 7900XTX LE and to be fair Im over the moon with it and its the quitest card I have ever had. I go into the Amd software and set it to balanced mode and the hot spot never goes over 89c with the fans at around 1700rpm. Solid card, I just wish it was cheaper, although it droped £100 since I bought it but I have no regrets.
I grabbed a taichi 7900xtx, and planning on blocking it soon but its encouraging to see that this is pretty close to same performance, crazy tho that 2800mhz out of the box on memory
Me too. Just waiting for it to arrive but we’re very limited to water block manufacturers. I only know one but it wasn’t for the Taichi. May have to wait a couple of months.
Great video, I would've liked a performance comparison between that and a Sapphire nitro plus AIB version of 7900xtx in that chart as well. Thanx
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Great review. I'm not sure it is the best 7900 xtx out there, My own Nitro+ makes 98.43 fps if I use the OC setting (91.77 on std settings) in Adrenalin - on AIR! This was just a quick test - I assume manual OC would be better - and I assume it will become better when I get it on water some day in the future.
I received my 7900XTX Liquid Devil about 6 Months ago. I have ZERO coil whine, only time you hear the card is 1000+ FPS on blank screens while loading and even then its the quietest card I have ever had. I very much won the lottery with this card.
@@bigai-ul4icthat entirely depends on what you mean by safe? I haven't had any issues with the card at all. It depends on what you yourself are comfortable with. I am fine ripping my PC apart to do whatever needs to be done. Water cooling is very much an enthusiast thing to do. I work on PCs for a living and have 0 issues diagnosing and replacing parts or draining and filling my loop. If you aren't comfortable building a pc and doing your own troubleshooting stick to air cooled or hybrid cards. The Red Devil performs nearly identically to the liquid devil for example, without the need for maintenance.
If the trend continues for high power/high heat cards, it will be surprising if air cooled cards (at least at the higher tiers) will continue to be made. It does seem like we are due for a technology change though, or graphics cards will need their own cases and psu's.
The EU wants to ban ICE cars and such but in reality they should create a hard cap on computers power draw to be honest. Like 400-500W maximum for a gaming prebuilt and such. Maybe then the devs will actually learn doing their job properly in optimizing the games, utilizing the available threads and stop with crappy ports.
@@joshtheking1772 that's where RUclipsrs blur content vs usage, it confuses ppl because like you said product's like these are niche but makes for great content when comparing
@@puciohenzap891 if that is enforced, the only thing you will get is like with 85% guns in the US, where a manufacturer sells you a mostly complete kit to assemble the gun yourself. Just ship the PC and the GPU separately as different purchases. Also if you think gaming companies that do crappy ports do anything more than crappy ports you are sorely mistaken. The most they will do is not make the port at all so the game becomes console-only. To be fair I'm fine either way, most crappy port games are trash with microtransactions and season passes that I'm happy to leave to the plebs on consoles
I've thoroughly searched through most 7900xtx's and the strongest one I've witnessed was the sapphire nitro+ as it's over locking sets it often to the 4090 in benchmarks.
Out of interest why choose this card? It costs the same as a 4090, is noticeably slower, uses the same power and has less features. Genuinely interested.
@@oxfordsparky I’ve only gone with AMD and I just prefer them and I need the DP 2.1. I also wanted a pre installed gpu water block for convenience and I’m coming from a rx Vega 64 so this card is already 4x more fps im not complaining.
I think l will stick to my 7900xtx hellhound that gave me 98 FPS in TS Extreme GT1 by just increasing the power limit. £600 more for 7 FPS more in this benchmark, l think l will pass 😮
Hey Roman, had you considered for your WireView thing having the display press-fit into connectors similar to how the Raspberry Pi CU does attachment to other boards? It would permit use of the same display unit across multiple power boards so that less material could be required overall. If I am wrong about this, I am sure your audience will let me know.
Is it a good card? Yes, thats evident. Now benchmarks are one thing and actual, everyday, use is another. What im looking at, according to the benchmarks, is Consistency. This card has it in spades. Im really impressed. I do think the price tag is a little high though. Its a consideration but I do think there is better value out there, at least at this moment. Power Color has come a real long way. Im just having a hard time justifying the cost, but, all GPU's are just too expensive at the moment. Ill wait.
well, the liquid devil isnt realy a card made for everyone. its more like a card for the red devil fans, who wants to spend the money for a liquid devil...that beeing sayed, its a beauty!
Just wanted to quickly say: I would love a product like the triple 8-pin power monitor you've been using in some of these videos. I've got a watt meter for the wall, but when doing things like flashing graphics card BIOS or shunt modding, having a clean power reading from just the component you care about would be awesome. Not to mention the 180-degree angle on the device for the cables; with some kind of cover, it might even make my build look better 😅
I have been waiting for someone to do this test and teardown. Thank goodness it was you. I have the air-cooled Red Devil 7900 XTX and similar performance and clocks. Are there any other benefits of this version other than thermals? I guess maybe smaller profile?
The price makes no sense. It's SO MUCH CHEAPER to buy any air-cooled 7900 XTX and separately buy a waterblock. The whole point of pre-blocked cards is that you save money overall by skipping ~$100 in air cooling heatsink costs.
no true, you always save money doing it yourself. You literally are paying for the convenience of it already having a block on it and not doing it yourself.
I disagree with this sentiment. A card that is ONLY for a waterblock setup can NEVER be the best card, as it excludes too many enthusiasts. The PowerColor and Sapphire versions are very good versions of this card. BUTTTTTT, they are not the best ones I've tried... The best one I've tried thus far is the little known MSI Gaming Trio version of the 7900 XTX. I can't even find a single review of this version of the card. But this version of the gpu is very powerful, SUPER QUIET and VERY COOL running. I've run relentless torture test rounds over and over on this card, and the temp stayed below mid 70's, with the hotspot never getting above 84c or further than approximately 12-16 degrees from the card temp. This card was so quiet, I had to get my light out and check the fans. They were definitely spinning well. So I opened the case to hear them better, and it was still hard to even tell they were spinning unless I put the light on them. I hear no coil whine so far. This card performs very well, and seems to be better than any of the other ones I've purchased/returned. It's also very stylish, and only a 2.5 slot sized card, so it will fit most cases. It's the best of all worlds thus far. The question is, will it stay that way...?
Just bought this card for my first custom liquid cooled PC. I agree that the coil whine on this card is pretty terrible, at least with my card it sounds louder than on the video. I'm glad that I can't hear it through my headphones, because otherwise the noise would have pivoted me towards returning the card. Temps and performance is still very good after having Strix 1080 Ti.
What's most impressive to me is that you have a super clean black table and a white cat, I have cat fur everywhere on my desktop, even cleaning everyday
Hello Roman. Thank you for the video. I disagree about leak tester being a nice addition. I don't believe it's free. It's always calculated within product's price. I don't have any data to prove it, but I think people buying that kind of products already have some kind of leak tester, or simply do not care. In majority of cases that's just a waste of our planet's resources.
errrm it was already in unleashed out of the box at 3915, you put it into oc thats why it dropped to 3015........ you moved the switch left........ watch at 5:12
I'd love to have the resources to test if having 32MB of additional L3 cache on die, along side the 96MB of L3/L4 on the MCM would significantly increase performance over the current RDNA3 design. There must have been a reason AMD put the 3D cache on top of their CPUs instead of the much cheaper, and cooler IO die, i feel like this is the reason RDNA3 acts so slow, because it has to go off-die to get the cache.
No, the Ultimate edition was with a Navi 21XTXH (basically, better binned), but both have an OC and Unleashed setting, only with higher target for the Ultimate edition.
It took me a second to understand the “MBA” terminology. Back in the day, we used “BBA” when cards were built by ATi, which some carried over after the company was acquired by another “A” company.
I wanted the standard Red Devil RX 7900 XTX. They are over $2000 NZD though (about 1200 euro). $2K knowing it will be superseded so quickly made me hesitate. I went cheap and got a Red Devil 6750XT new for a little more than half what they were on launch. It'll do for now. I also went cheap and recently upgraded my 3700x to a 5900X that was discounted, instead of going 7000 series. I'll wait for the next Zen gen to see if it is any good. I only play a little ESO at 4k, so do not need a supercomputer (it's plenty for my digital audio workstation stuff too). I sold the 3700X to my nephew for an extra large pizza delivered. I have to pull it apart, though. I put my M2 NVMe drive in the easy to get to slot. Using that slot makes my GPU run PCI-E 8x3, instead of 16x. I doubt it hurts, but it still bothers me. Now I have saved a bunch of money I can catch up on all the electric guitar stuff I need to buy, mod, and maintain etc, e.g., stainless frets on my Strat, or a new USB audio interface etc. There's always something huh?
1060mV +15%PL GPU-2850 Mem-2800 was the end stable result with a reference with 2pci-e on water. Mine pulls on average 325w during games. I think the 7900xtx just works so well with water cooling.
I wonder if this would fit in cases like the Hyte Y60? That is the case I am currently using and with the 7900 XT it gets close to the glass where there might not be room for the water fittings.
One thing that can also be improved is location for water entry/exit into the water block. Waterblock's slot size or length in most cases isn't issue will it fit insade smaller cases, but problem is width. My question is why not separate those entry/exit points by moving water entrance to top left corner, and exit to bottom right corner, that way even if GPU is vertical mounted or regular, water can have natural flow. + Width of card is reduced.
Also if they added one more power connector, why wouldn't be possible to have them put at end of GPU, instead of traditional way on side ? That way it would even further reduce width of GPU.
Interesting how the EK logo looks very much like the PowerColor logo on its side. Wonder if that played any role in the partnership and should definitely play a role in marketing!
Being able to buy a GPU which comes with a pre-installed water block is hugely attractive. As you say, people building their first custom water-loop especially, but most people will be nervous of breaking a hugely expensive graphics card (especially an RTX4090) by being terrified of making a mistake which invalidates the warranty whilst installing one themselves. Buying it pre-installed also saves on the e-waste, as there is no redundant fans & cooling blocks wasted, & so it's better for the environment & your wallet. I'm hoping the Asus Rog Strix will partner with EK again because I would love to buy one of their RTX4090 which is pre-installed with dual active (front & back) water blocks; no matter how much extra cooling the active backplate makes, esthetically it looks MUCH nicer when the GPU is installed in the regular way & so is worth the extra expenseof an active backplate, with RGB.
They should be making GPU + AIO preinstalled, there are so many ways to destroy your hardware that isn't covered by warranty when doing a custom water cooling loop that getting a card with a preinstalled waterblock doesn't make it that much safer
It may be the glue/underfill is there to protect in case someone uses too much liquid metal replacing the standard paste. If it trips, it would more likely drip that direction?
I'm sorry but what coil whine? It's a liquid cooled card. Unless it comes with a radiator and fans that you didn't mention at all, I've no idea what you're talking about.
25C delta between core & hotspot is crazy to me, especially on a blocked card. My old 3090 Kingpin with an eVGA HydroCopper block didn't have that big of a delta, most I ever saw was 10-15C. The delta isn't even that large on the 4090 I have now, and that's air cooled lol
Is there water cooling AIO for the power color 7900 XT red devil? I am shopping around amd can only find the power color 7900 xt . This version doesn't work with the red devil and yes i have tried and it doesnt fit the red devil. Different pcb .
the price for watercooling your PC nowadays is so much more affordable and better to install than lets say 10 years ago. everything and any information you want on building your own watercooling is on the net for the grabs. Easy first time custom loop? Go softline. Second or third waterloop? Lets try some hardline. And the costs of it, if you can be patient, aint that much more than buying an AIO and fans.
I was once like that, and only a few years ago, the only reason you'd want to watercool would be for overclocking or controlling where the radiator is. These days though, the stupid temperatures of an air cooled card end up making the inside of the case get to scary temperatures. The air-cooled heatsinks are breeze-blocks that damage motherboards if not braced in place or mounted vertically. Things have flipped a bit, and if you want high end cards, watercooling and a big fat radiator are definitely the way to go. Use soft-line, quick-connects and pressure testers, and there needn't be a leak risk.
I own the PowerColor Liquid Devil 6900XT - and the block itself seems the same, but mine - looks better - the LD logo pattern on black finish. The lighting on the 6900 is uneven - it's brighter at one end, while the other is darker - either mine has faulty LED strip, or the strip is just short. I don't know. Mine also doesn't have any thermal pads under the backplate which is a shame. The key difference from PowerColor and other brands is the card length - Liquid Devil is significantly shorter than other cards, which is very important in cases with limited card space. Performance is great. I myself am very happy with mine, it runs cool and quiet - but, one 360 rad is not enough to cool both the card and the cpu - I had to install another 360 rad to keep my temps down.
It is such a waste that More Power Tools is not available for this generation. I have a Powercolor 6900 XT Red Devil Ultimate with a Bykski waterblock on it. My 6900 XT can outperform any 6950XT just because I can use MPT with it. AMD is wasting so much OC potential for (X)OC'ers by locking down the powertables, and by doing that making it impossible to create a MPT for it. For instance: With the right MPT settings I can blast over 600watt through my 6900XT and with the waterblock and liquid metal from TG, the GPU averaged at 34 degrees in a full TS run. And with that got a solid 26.329 GPU points in TS.
Nice GPU, but like my AMD 6900 and PowerColor 7900XTX, all overkill for gaming. Jensen/Nvidia are all-in on RT which currently is garbage. $5000+ for a laptop which cannot break 30FPS with RT on! For those of you who are willing to spend thousands on that last 1%, go you. PT Barnum lives! A sucker born every minute and a fool and his money are soon parted.
Even the air coolers are costing $100+ to make, these days. So this should cost $1200 (+$150 for block +50 for better PCB, assembly equal). Instead it's $1400 -- laziness tax, I guess.
Hotspot deltas seem comically high for this gen. If you can, I'd love to see if Honeywell PTM7950 allows for a much lower GPU hotspot delta relative to the other reading. On my Sapphire Nitro+ I was able to get as low as a 12-15c delta where here it looks closed to 20-25c.
On every I card owned the last couple years, I replaced the standard paste with liquid metal from TG. That meant a world of difference on the overall die temp, but a massive drop in hotspot temps. On idle my watercooled Powercolor RX 6900 XT Red Devil Ultimate hotspot is now 2 degrees above ambient, where my gpu die itself is ambient(water) temperature. Even in gaming the hotspot never reached above 54 degrees and in benchmarking it never got over 72 degrees.
I've just achieved 101.36, with an OC Sapphire Pulse. The Max TBP for this one is 415W. Not sure you need to spend all this money in this liquid cooled cards.
EK? Can't wait to find out that this is actually nickel plated copper in 3 months when the nickel starts flaking off and people start posting to r/watercooling Most fun to watch company also nvidia still overclocks better my 1080TI under water gave +20%. 3080 and 3090 +15%
My liquid devil, with a bit of OC, easily pushes 3ghz in spiderman 1080p (with raytracing). It can spike up to 3.1. I can push it higher, but it's unstable.
Is it bad to run a block reversed like that? I never even thought about that before lol. I have the asrock phantom gaming 7900xtx that I just put on an alphacool waterblock and I love it!
Awesome!! Guess I’m going with the nitro + (vs the pulse or reference) wasn’t sure if the extra money would equal any performance improvements. This shows it’s plausible and that’s all the encouragement I need 😂
Think about the extra performance per $. The AIB cards generally all undervolt/overclock well as is, so the gap between say a $1,050 card and a $1,200 card is likely very little (silicon lottery applying, of course). The "guaranteed" overclocks on all these AIBs are all much smaller than a simple undervolt on a reference card.
Beware buying from high end PowerColor gpu’s. My 6950xt liquid Devil took 6 months to receive a replacement. The sad part is I didn’t receive an liquid Devil but a red devil because they had no eta on when the liquid Devil will be back in stock for replacement. I got a free upgrade from this rma headache. If you do buy a high end gpu from PowerColor make sure to purchase after market insurance.
such a shame they locked these cards down... between AM5's dumpster fire and locking down cpus & gpus AMD is really failing for the overclocking crowd...
My MSI gaming 7900xtx doesn't allow me to set the fans to 0%. Is there any way for me to fix this? I've tried all of the various fan control software out there (Fan Control, Argus monitor, Afterburner, etc.)
I came from Red Devil 6900XT on which I put an Alphacool block. The upgrade path competition was between Liquid Devil 7900XTX and iChill Frostbite RTX4090. Went for the latter due to 2x the RT performance, better upscaling and Frame Generation. The price difference in Asia was only 250€ so it made sense. Frostbite has a 450W PL, however it can still be OC'd around 7% by upping the voltage to 1.1mv, and the clocks stay at 3.065ghz consistently at +130mhz core, memory did a solid +800mhz, passing the Port Royal stress test of 30 loops. Temps stay under 63C at worst case scenario, hotspot 75C, most of the time 45-55C core and 55-65C hotspot. No coil whine after the first two weeks of screaming like a pig. Just justifying my choice aloud on the internet! :D
I can see watercooled cards being the future. With the size of coolers needed now surly its the cheaper option to slap a waterblock on them. Would like to see "pre built" water cooling also. So you buy a unit with rad, block, res, and they come with 4 pipes 2 for the cpu and 2 for the gpu. Just plug and play quick connect/disconnect. I know this already exists but i can see it becoming a standard with every PC.
It's also the present for me, as my reservoir (behind front rad) already prevents me to put a GPU more than 280mm long (and I have a rather big Phanteks P600S case...) 😂
I am not looking at spending extra 50% to get water cooled card
It exists for CPU only (AIO) we need the same solution for GPU. Right now it requires custom water cooling.
@@GewelReal Depends on what base price your 50% came from. You can buy the cheapest "reference card" you can find, and slap a WB on it.
@@SlavaBagmut they exist already for top end cards, but i can totally see a standardization of quick connect watercooling in the near future. thankfully AMD won't be so quick to even need it.
I have the air cooled Powercolor Red Devil and...you get similar improvement over a stock 7900XTX, albeit with higher temps/fans. Except mine was +$50 over reference price, and this is +$XXX over the reference cooler. And people have reported nice undervolts/overclocks on the reference cooler, too.
Generally the GPUs that cost +$200 or more over reference just don't give you enough raw performance to justify that price, though some people might prefer to water cool or whatever.
You have to compare it price wise vs buying an air cooled card + a waterblock really. Most waterblocks for the XTX are around that $200 mark so what are you gonna do
The fact it comes with an ek water block almost makes this a no brainer for watercooled builds. the red devil is 1100+the ek red devil block is another 277. That makes that combo 1377. The liquid devil is 1400. $23 to keep your warranty and not have to instal the block yourself seems like a no brainer. (pricing was in the US, ymmv). If you dont have to pay for shipping on the liquid devil you instantly save money because shipping from ek to the us is around 20-40 bucks.
I guess at the top of the line performance/€ goes out the window and you want performance for *almost* any money. But heck even with that mindset the premium on this one is too much to justify, so much so it starts falling in line with products that are like made with gold for no other reason than "yes why not".
@@ironhelix45 EK blocks make no sense though, when you can get a cheaper bykski, higher quality similar price heatkiller, or spend more for better performance from something like Optimus.
And in the US, disassembling your card cannot void the warranty anyways, just put the old cooler back on if you have to RMA it and you're fine. It's what I did when I rma'd my 3090 out of my loop.
@4fiHysteria byskie needs to have a block available to be able to use them. Right now they don't even have a 7000 category on their own website. They have one for preorder at 194. Ekwb at least has 7900 blocks available to buy and ship out now. Byskie's one block that I saw was for the sapphire nitro +. That card starts at 1200. Add the 200 for the byskie block and you are at 1400, same price as the liquid devil without the hassle of needing to install the block yourself. Also, I didn't mention that it came with the loop leak test kit. 30 bucks right there. Now I know not everyone will use that, but it is added for free. Don't get me wrong, I get that most of the time buying a pre-blocked card costs more than doing it yourself. In this case, purchasing in the US, the liquid devil makes a lot of sense because the cost of the card and block is comparable to buying the base card and base block itself. Most budget blocks that are out for the 7900xtx are for reference only. If you want an aib block your options are limited. I didn't see a heat killer block in my search, same with byskie until recently with their preorder of the sapphire nitro + block. Ekwb is a reliable brand that you can generally always trust the quality of their product. It isn't unreasonable to consider them as a gold standard of the industry. They are the only ones that I have seen with more than one aib block. Availible now, they have the Asus tuf and reference cards with the red devil cards launching at the end of March early, April. They are also the only brand that I've seen that actually has a tab for the 7000 series gpu. Not trying to shill for ekwb but when it's been 3 months since the launch of the card, and you plan on making a waterblock for the card maybe you should have a tab on your website to advertise that you are in fact going to sell blocks for that line.
Edit: never heard of Optimus and just looked at their stuff, they don't even make amd card blocks, so why bring them up?
So we need now to Sapphire do their: TOXIC Radeon 7900XTX. But this Power Color Liquid Devil is a monster. I hope they get pre-binned better chips like in 6950XT Red Devil.
Now we need to Micron do some 24Gbps GDDR6 memory and we will se 7950XTX :D
Best part, factory watercooling so you don't void the warranty.
Been looking for this card. It's impossible to find online right now
Nitro Plus with a block will get the best numbers having the higher power limit.
PowerColor is my absolute favorite brand. Top notch build quality, good prices, good warranty.
I have a 6900x liquid devil, love it. want to get one of those triple 8-pin 180s with the readout, I like the clean look.
6900 xt x had one problem, locked memory. After overclocking, it did not have such gains as the 7900xtx. That's probably why the 6950xt appeared ;)
@@rENEGADE666JEDI I have an LC bios on mine, lets me clock memory to 2400.
Roman, will you be able to compare this to the AsRock Aqua 7900xtx?
It looks awesome! For me though, with that difference in price and the fact it is a strictly water cooled card, there should be a higher power limit than it has or at least the ability to increase it higher than it does without having to mod the bios. Personally the "unleashed" bios should have a bigger difference than it does. Other than that it looks to be a great card!
That's a crazy performance improvement, I'd like to see further tuning.
They always do that
Just use the card as it as and save the money for a future upgrade. This so called tuning to get a few fps here and there is a waste of time and is only good for those with no jobs or those on RUclips making videos.
@@wantedyou2346 and you should shut up.
Just... let people do what they want! Who cares if it's a waste of time, only people that don't have time would say that
@@wantedyou2346 look at me I'm going to tell people what they should and shouldnt find worthwhile to them
@@wantedyou2346 that''s some fucking stupid advice. Why would you not squeeze free performance out of your card?
I own the "normal" 7900 XTX Red Devil, and at stock bios in COD DMZ, I'm getting peak hot spot of 94 degrees Celcius, in a Lian Li Lancool3 with 6 140mm Corsair Performance Elite fans and 3 120mm fans, same type, installed below the Red Devil. You DO need a lot of case cooling for these power draws. I ended up undervolting 1% in Redeon software, that makes a hot spot difference of about 5 degrees. Coil wine is only audible on some game menus that are not frame capped and run at like 1000 fps. In properly FPS limited menus, you can't notice the coil wine... I'm happy I kept it AMD, from my former 6950XTX Red Devil to this one was just unplug and plug the same the 3 PCIE power cables, done :)
( weird thing was that W10 and the latest 6950 driver, did not like my 7900XTX rightaway, it had to be uninstalled, reboot, install , 2 or 3 reboots, then it was done )
Undervolt it and get better performance with less heat.
'normal' is the hassle free edition honestly, wc has low temp treshold (you have to keep things
gpu only, cpu same temp
I wonder if you could improve the coil whine using the same trick that CRT manufacturers used in the 80s and 90s: potting them in wax, or adding glue to the sides. Back then the reason for the whine was the horizontal beam deflection transformer being driven with a sawtooth wave at 15.6kHz. Would be interesting to see you add some hot glue to the sides of the inductors on a card with loud coil whine and see if it reduces it significantly. You could also try something more permanent like epoxy or cyanoacylate, although you'll probably want to try those on a cheaper card than this one!
You could improve the coil whine using a better power supply or a neighborhood with cleaner power at the wall socket.
@@sammiller6631 i have a 1300w platinum PSU, and have a brutal coil whine. It's a seasonic model, and the coil whine is terribad. Electricy is clean where i live. it's the card. (I have a liquid devil)
@@TheHighborn You should see the Guts of my Corsair AX1500i Power Supply, it's LOADED with DAM Epoxy on EVERY COIL,and I mean EVERY ONE!! They dumped a BOAT Load of that 💩! It's not Built by Seasonic,the usual OEM, but Flextronics,a HIGH END manufacturer. And it shows! NOT a SPEC out of place on this board! ANANDTECH was afraid to take that stuff apart,cause it was so THICK AND MASSIVE! They didn't want ANY WHINE out of THAT! But I LUV IT! Been on 2 Compys now,this one,my Ryzen RiG.
I would say the XFX Merc 7900XTX is the best Air cooled card I have owned. Temps are always below 61c
FOR 1440P maybe, but when I go 4k it gets hot. 78 on the core and 92 on the hotspot.
@@hoseinqadam I will test. But my 3080Ti always ran at 78-80c at 1440p.
@@hoseinqadam 78C is still a very good temp for a GPU under heavy load.
DXR on tends to increase the temps by 30 degrees.
That's the card I've been looking at
I went all out this time and bought a PowerColor 7900XTX LE and to be fair Im over the moon with it and its the quitest card I have ever had. I go into the Amd software and set it to balanced mode and the hot spot never goes over 89c with the fans at around 1700rpm. Solid card, I just wish it was cheaper, although it droped £100 since I bought it but I have no regrets.
Any coil whine?
@@TheTick20001 Not a note of Choil Whine and to be honest, I was expecting it but I got lucky.
@@Nite-Lite-Gamers Good to hear (or not as the case may be!)
I grabbed a taichi 7900xtx, and planning on blocking it soon but its encouraging to see that this is pretty close to same performance, crazy tho that 2800mhz out of the box on memory
Me too. Just waiting for it to arrive but we’re very limited to water block manufacturers. I only know one but it wasn’t for the Taichi. May have to wait a couple of months.
Great video,
I would've liked a performance comparison between that and a Sapphire nitro plus AIB version of 7900xtx in that chart as well. Thanx
Great review.
I'm not sure it is the best 7900 xtx out there, My own Nitro+ makes 98.43 fps if I use the OC setting (91.77 on std settings) in Adrenalin - on AIR!
This was just a quick test - I assume manual OC would be better - and I assume it will become better when I get it on water some day in the future.
My 7900xtx from ASrock Taichi do 97,01 fps with normal settings and 107,32 fps with OC :)
Now I want to build a system around this!
I really like PowerColor's Devil logo. It's so simple and clean.
Impressive its always nice to see what the top end can do by one of the best. Much Appreciated.👌👌😁😁
These cards do not exist anywhere now
I received my 7900XTX Liquid Devil about 6 Months ago. I have ZERO coil whine, only time you hear the card is 1000+ FPS on blank screens while loading and even then its the quietest card I have ever had. I very much won the lottery with this card.
Hey, I was wondering if getting a liquid cooled card is safe long term now that it's been a 10 months since you got it.
@@bigai-ul4icthat entirely depends on what you mean by safe? I haven't had any issues with the card at all. It depends on what you yourself are comfortable with. I am fine ripping my PC apart to do whatever needs to be done. Water cooling is very much an enthusiast thing to do. I work on PCs for a living and have 0 issues diagnosing and replacing parts or draining and filling my loop. If you aren't comfortable building a pc and doing your own troubleshooting stick to air cooled or hybrid cards. The Red Devil performs nearly identically to the liquid devil for example, without the need for maintenance.
If the trend continues for high power/high heat cards, it will be surprising if air cooled cards (at least at the higher tiers) will continue to be made. It does seem like we are due for a technology change though, or graphics cards will need their own cases and psu's.
The EU wants to ban ICE cars and such but in reality they should create a hard cap on computers power draw to be honest. Like 400-500W maximum for a gaming prebuilt and such.
Maybe then the devs will actually learn doing their job properly in optimizing the games, utilizing the available threads and stop with crappy ports.
@@puciohenzap891 its the wild west when it comes to all of this stuff , I feel devs gave up and hope for brute force on theyre games now
Its not built or designed to be compared to air cooled cards though.
@@joshtheking1772 that's where RUclipsrs blur content vs usage, it confuses ppl because like you said product's like these are niche but makes for great content when comparing
@@puciohenzap891 if that is enforced, the only thing you will get is like with 85% guns in the US, where a manufacturer sells you a mostly complete kit to assemble the gun yourself. Just ship the PC and the GPU separately as different purchases.
Also if you think gaming companies that do crappy ports do anything more than crappy ports you are sorely mistaken. The most they will do is not make the port at all so the game becomes console-only.
To be fair I'm fine either way, most crappy port games are trash with microtransactions and season passes that I'm happy to leave to the plebs on consoles
I'm so looking forward to using this card. Just have to finish my build!!
I know the video is about the gpu. but im more interested in that 3x8pin wireview.
I've thoroughly searched through most 7900xtx's and the strongest one I've witnessed was the sapphire nitro+ as it's over locking sets it often to the 4090 in benchmarks.
Sapphire still leading for AMD card since ATI brand name till now. The quality are top and cooling at the same, board and finish very best.
@@TieuBachBach true about the ATI brand.
Wow what timing! I legit just bought myself this
Target audience / perfect, you are the ultimate proof.
Out of interest why choose this card? It costs the same as a 4090, is noticeably slower, uses the same power and has less features.
Genuinely interested.
Hope you enjoy it. This is a gaming moment 😎
@@oxfordsparky I’ve only gone with AMD and I just prefer them and I need the DP 2.1. I also wanted a pre installed gpu water block for convenience and I’m coming from a rx Vega 64 so this card is already 4x more fps im not complaining.
You need dp2.1 for what exactly?
Your very fortunate to have such good supervisors on scene 🐈😻
I think l will stick to my 7900xtx hellhound that gave me 98 FPS in TS Extreme GT1 by just increasing the power limit. £600 more for 7 FPS more in this benchmark, l think l will pass 😮
Awesome card, love the GPU power display too, have you thought of doing one for CPU power?
Hey Roman, had you considered for your WireView thing having the display press-fit into connectors similar to how the Raspberry Pi CU does attachment to other boards? It would permit use of the same display unit across multiple power boards so that less material could be required overall. If I am wrong about this, I am sure your audience will let me know.
The best you can’t get you mean. Can’t find it in stock.
Is it a good card? Yes, thats evident. Now benchmarks are one thing and actual, everyday, use is another. What im looking at, according to the benchmarks, is Consistency. This card has it in spades. Im really impressed. I do think the price tag is a little high though. Its a consideration but I do think there is better value out there, at least at this moment. Power Color has come a real long way. Im just having a hard time justifying the cost, but, all GPU's are just too expensive at the moment. Ill wait.
well, the liquid devil isnt realy a card made for everyone. its more like a card for the red devil fans, who wants to spend the money for a liquid devil...that beeing sayed, its a beauty!
Just wanted to quickly say: I would love a product like the triple 8-pin power monitor you've been using in some of these videos. I've got a watt meter for the wall, but when doing things like flashing graphics card BIOS or shunt modding, having a clean power reading from just the component you care about would be awesome. Not to mention the 180-degree angle on the device for the cables; with some kind of cover, it might even make my build look better 😅
Yep, me too!.
I can't find one, did he make it?
@@sategllib2191 He says in the video that it's still a prototype.
I was hoping you'd undervolt overclock the card. I get similar maybe better performance with the red devil xtx
I have been waiting for someone to do this test and teardown. Thank goodness it was you. I have the air-cooled Red Devil 7900 XTX and similar performance and clocks. Are there any other benefits of this version other than thermals? I guess maybe smaller profile?
Is it worth that a reference pcb variant + ek waterbllock?
Hm a Power Color card with coil whine, imagine that 🙄
The price makes no sense. It's SO MUCH CHEAPER to buy any air-cooled 7900 XTX and separately buy a waterblock.
The whole point of pre-blocked cards is that you save money overall by skipping ~$100 in air cooling heatsink costs.
no true, you always save money doing it yourself. You literally are paying for the convenience of it already having a block on it and not doing it yourself.
I disagree with this sentiment. A card that is ONLY for a waterblock setup can NEVER be the best card, as it excludes too many enthusiasts. The PowerColor and Sapphire versions are very good versions of this card. BUTTTTTT, they are not the best ones I've tried... The best one I've tried thus far is the little known MSI Gaming Trio version of the 7900 XTX. I can't even find a single review of this version of the card. But this version of the gpu is very powerful, SUPER QUIET and VERY COOL running. I've run relentless torture test rounds over and over on this card, and the temp stayed below mid 70's, with the hotspot never getting above 84c or further than approximately 12-16 degrees from the card temp. This card was so quiet, I had to get my light out and check the fans. They were definitely spinning well. So I opened the case to hear them better, and it was still hard to even tell they were spinning unless I put the light on them. I hear no coil whine so far. This card performs very well, and seems to be better than any of the other ones I've purchased/returned. It's also very stylish, and only a 2.5 slot sized card, so it will fit most cases. It's the best of all worlds thus far. The question is, will it stay that way...?
How can you call yourself an enthusiast if you haven't water-cooled your GPU?
Just bought this card for my first custom liquid cooled PC. I agree that the coil whine on this card is pretty terrible, at least with my card it sounds louder than on the video. I'm glad that I can't hear it through my headphones, because otherwise the noise would have pivoted me towards returning the card. Temps and performance is still very good after having Strix 1080 Ti.
Where u getting this card from ? I can not find it any where
@@kyleboi76 From Jimms in Finland. Proshop too has stock. Dont know about US.
@@eliaskauppi7888 Cheers am in the uk been trying to get my hands on a aqua or this but they is nothing they aint even listed
Are you planning on acknowledging that the cats are really the owners of this channel?
What's most impressive to me is that you have a super clean black table and a white cat, I have cat fur everywhere on my desktop, even cleaning everyday
shame its the same price as a 4090
@@nadersedaghat5694 this card in the UK is £1699, cheapest 4090 is £1599
Hello Roman. Thank you for the video. I disagree about leak tester being a nice addition. I don't believe it's free. It's always calculated within product's price. I don't have any data to prove it, but I think people buying that kind of products already have some kind of leak tester, or simply do not care. In majority of cases that's just a waste of our planet's resources.
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Sheikh and Makita seemed impressed with it too; high praise indeed.
errrm it was already in unleashed out of the box at 3915, you put it into oc thats why it dropped to 3015........ you moved the switch left........ watch at 5:12
Exactly what i was thinking. Mine cane in unleashed and i saw someone else stating the same thing on another channel that was overclocking this.
I would like to see a custom waterblock on the ASRock phantom to compare this to.
I'd love to have the resources to test if having 32MB of additional L3 cache on die, along side the 96MB of L3/L4 on the MCM would significantly increase performance over the current RDNA3 design.
There must have been a reason AMD put the 3D cache on top of their CPUs instead of the much cheaper, and cooler IO die, i feel like this is the reason RDNA3 acts so slow, because it has to go off-die to get the cache.
I don't know why, but the simple touch of having the LED shine through the acrylic plate, via the eyes, made me giddy. 😂
I've learned my lesson from the LD 6900 XT... wait for the ultimate edition 🙄
This has an unleashed BIOS, is this not the equiv of an ultimate edition?
No, the Ultimate edition was with a Navi 21XTXH (basically, better binned), but both have an OC and Unleashed setting, only with higher target for the Ultimate edition.
Might not be an unleashed version. 6950xt did not have one
It took me a second to understand the “MBA” terminology. Back in the day, we used “BBA” when cards were built by ATi, which some carried over after the company was acquired by another “A” company.
zero in game FPS testing what??? useless results to me then.
I wanted the standard Red Devil RX 7900 XTX. They are over $2000 NZD though (about 1200 euro). $2K knowing it will be superseded so quickly made me hesitate. I went cheap and got a Red Devil 6750XT new for a little more than half what they were on launch. It'll do for now.
I also went cheap and recently upgraded my 3700x to a 5900X that was discounted, instead of going 7000 series. I'll wait for the next Zen gen to see if it is any good. I only play a little ESO at 4k, so do not need a supercomputer (it's plenty for my digital audio workstation stuff too). I sold the 3700X to my nephew for an extra large pizza delivered.
I have to pull it apart, though. I put my M2 NVMe drive in the easy to get to slot. Using that slot makes my GPU run PCI-E 8x3, instead of 16x. I doubt it hurts, but it still bothers me.
Now I have saved a bunch of money I can catch up on all the electric guitar stuff I need to buy, mod, and maintain etc, e.g., stainless frets on my Strat, or a new USB audio interface etc. There's always something huh?
Thanks for awesome review sir! Can't wait to buy this card at half price in a year or two lol
1060mV +15%PL GPU-2850 Mem-2800 was the end stable result with a reference with 2pci-e on water. Mine pulls on average 325w during games. I think the 7900xtx just works so well with water cooling.
I wonder if this would fit in cases like the Hyte Y60? That is the case I am currently using and with the 7900 XT it gets close to the glass where there might not be room for the water fittings.
It should fit fine and also you could fit the water cooling connectors to the back of the liquid devil card.
One thing that can also be improved is location for water entry/exit into the water block. Waterblock's slot size or length in most cases isn't issue will it fit insade smaller cases, but problem is width. My question is why not separate those entry/exit points by moving water entrance to top left corner, and exit to bottom right corner, that way even if GPU is vertical mounted or regular, water can have natural flow. + Width of card is reduced.
Also if they added one more power connector, why wouldn't be possible to have them put at end of GPU, instead of traditional way on side ? That way it would even further reduce width of GPU.
I definitely would like that wire view for my 3 8-pin GPU. So the wattage over the PCIe slot is minimal typically, yes?
Interesting how the EK logo looks very much like the PowerColor logo on its side. Wonder if that played any role in the partnership and should definitely play a role in marketing!
might be
Haha I never realized the logo thing until you mentioned it. There should be a miniature devil logo next to the EK logo on the bottom right
Look forward to liquid cooled Nitro+
Being able to buy a GPU which comes with a pre-installed water block is hugely attractive. As you say, people building their first custom water-loop especially, but most people will be nervous of breaking a hugely expensive graphics card (especially an RTX4090) by being terrified of making a mistake which invalidates the warranty whilst installing one themselves. Buying it pre-installed also saves on the e-waste, as there is no redundant fans & cooling blocks wasted, & so it's better for the environment & your wallet.
I'm hoping the Asus Rog Strix will partner with EK again because I would love to buy one of their RTX4090 which is pre-installed with dual active (front & back) water blocks; no matter how much extra cooling the active backplate makes, esthetically it looks MUCH nicer when the GPU is installed in the regular way & so is worth the extra expenseof an active backplate, with RGB.
They should be making GPU + AIO preinstalled, there are so many ways to destroy your hardware that isn't covered by warranty when doing a custom water cooling loop that getting a card with a preinstalled waterblock doesn't make it that much safer
It may be the glue/underfill is there to protect in case someone uses too much liquid metal replacing the standard paste. If it trips, it would more likely drip that direction?
Amazing video
Really like to see more memory tuning and benchmarks with this card
I'm sorry but what coil whine? It's a liquid cooled card. Unless it comes with a radiator and fans that you didn't mention at all, I've no idea what you're talking about.
AMD really is dumb to not allow full control when you want to OC.
100% they have dropped the ball on that
25C delta between core & hotspot is crazy to me, especially on a blocked card. My old 3090 Kingpin with an eVGA HydroCopper block didn't have that big of a delta, most I ever saw was 10-15C.
The delta isn't even that large on the 4090 I have now, and that's air cooled lol
Is there water cooling AIO for the power color 7900 XT red devil? I am shopping around amd can only find the power color 7900 xt . This version doesn't work with the red devil and yes i have tried and it doesnt fit the red devil. Different pcb .
Could you not buy the cheapest RTX 4090 and be faster and more efficient?
i love satan so i bought a 7900 xtx red devil no joke either satan is the man
bought PC 6700xt doubled my fps from vega56 runs geat 1440p gaming.
this card would have to many fps
Damn, that's a good looking GPU. Too bad strict water cooling scares me.
the price for watercooling your PC nowadays is so much more affordable and better to install than lets say 10 years ago. everything and any information you want on building your own watercooling is on the net for the grabs. Easy first time custom loop? Go softline. Second or third waterloop? Lets try some hardline. And the costs of it, if you can be patient, aint that much more than buying an AIO and fans.
I was once like that, and only a few years ago, the only reason you'd want to watercool would be for overclocking or controlling where the radiator is.
These days though, the stupid temperatures of an air cooled card end up making the inside of the case get to scary temperatures. The air-cooled heatsinks are breeze-blocks that damage motherboards if not braced in place or mounted vertically. Things have flipped a bit, and if you want high end cards, watercooling and a big fat radiator are definitely the way to go. Use soft-line, quick-connects and pressure testers, and there needn't be a leak risk.
as long as the coil whine doesn't affect performance or durability I don't mind it, I think the card sounds great
440+ PCIe power my 7900XTX sapphire nitro + vapor x take around the same wattage
I own the PowerColor Liquid Devil 6900XT - and the block itself seems the same, but mine - looks better - the LD logo pattern on black finish. The lighting on the 6900 is uneven - it's brighter at one end, while the other is darker - either mine has faulty LED strip, or the strip is just short. I don't know. Mine also doesn't have any thermal pads under the backplate which is a shame.
The key difference from PowerColor and other brands is the card length - Liquid Devil is significantly shorter than other cards, which is very important in cases with limited card space.
Performance is great. I myself am very happy with mine, it runs cool and quiet - but, one 360 rad is not enough to cool both the card and the cpu - I had to install another 360 rad to keep my temps down.
It is such a waste that More Power Tools is not available for this generation. I have a Powercolor 6900 XT Red Devil Ultimate with a Bykski waterblock on it. My 6900 XT can outperform any 6950XT just because I can use MPT with it. AMD is wasting so much OC potential for (X)OC'ers by locking down the powertables, and by doing that making it impossible to create a MPT for it. For instance: With the right MPT settings I can blast over 600watt through my 6900XT and with the waterblock and liquid metal from TG, the GPU averaged at 34 degrees in a full TS run. And with that got a solid 26.329 GPU points in TS.
Was considering this card when i had my loop. Love power colour and their Red Devil line
Nice GPU, but like my AMD 6900 and PowerColor 7900XTX, all overkill for gaming. Jensen/Nvidia are all-in on RT which currently is garbage. $5000+ for a laptop which cannot break 30FPS with RT on! For those of you who are willing to spend thousands on that last 1%, go you. PT Barnum lives! A sucker born every minute and a fool and his money are soon parted.
Even the air coolers are costing $100+ to make, these days. So this should cost $1200 (+$150 for block +50 for better PCB, assembly equal). Instead it's $1400 -- laziness tax, I guess.
Hotspot deltas seem comically high for this gen. If you can, I'd love to see if Honeywell PTM7950 allows for a much lower GPU hotspot delta relative to the other reading. On my Sapphire Nitro+ I was able to get as low as a 12-15c delta where here it looks closed to 20-25c.
On stock settings my 7900XTX Red Devil had juncture temps of up to 98C. I had to up the maximum fan % to 75% from its stock 45% or whatever.
On every I card owned the last couple years, I replaced the standard paste with liquid metal from TG. That meant a world of difference on the overall die temp, but a massive drop in hotspot temps. On idle my watercooled Powercolor RX 6900 XT Red Devil Ultimate hotspot is now 2 degrees above ambient, where my gpu die itself is ambient(water) temperature. Even in gaming the hotspot never reached above 54 degrees and in benchmarking it never got over 72 degrees.
I've just achieved 101.36, with an OC Sapphire Pulse. The Max TBP for this one is 415W.
Not sure you need to spend all this money in this liquid cooled cards.
EK? Can't wait to find out that this is actually nickel plated copper in 3 months when the nickel starts flaking off and people start posting to r/watercooling
Most fun to watch company
also nvidia still overclocks better
my 1080TI under water gave +20%. 3080 and 3090 +15%
My liquid devil, with a bit of OC, easily pushes 3ghz in spiderman 1080p (with raytracing). It can spike up to 3.1. I can push it higher, but it's unstable.
Sapphire 7900 XTX NITRO+ is better liquid devil has to many issues with bad stock thermal paste aplication
Is it bad to run a block reversed like that? I never even thought about that before lol. I have the asrock phantom gaming 7900xtx that I just put on an alphacool waterblock and I love it!
Awesome!! Guess I’m going with the nitro + (vs the pulse or reference) wasn’t sure if the extra money would equal any performance improvements. This shows it’s plausible and that’s all the encouragement I need 😂
Think about the extra performance per $. The AIB cards generally all undervolt/overclock well as is, so the gap between say a $1,050 card and a $1,200 card is likely very little (silicon lottery applying, of course). The "guaranteed" overclocks on all these AIBs are all much smaller than a simple undervolt on a reference card.
@@HappyHubris yeah, not going go get that much performance improvement over another aib card, but there's something to say for aesthetics
I have Zero coil whine - it needs a beefy PSU, Im using a 1600 watt EVGA PSU on my Powercolor Red Devil 7900 XTX air cooled.
Beware buying from high end PowerColor gpu’s. My 6950xt liquid Devil took 6 months to receive a replacement. The sad part is I didn’t receive an liquid Devil but a red devil because they had no eta on when the liquid Devil will be back in stock for replacement. I got a free upgrade from this rma headache. If you do buy a high end gpu from PowerColor make sure to purchase after market insurance.
such a shame they locked these cards down... between AM5's dumpster fire and locking down cpus & gpus AMD is really failing for the overclocking crowd...
Bummer. I'm getting like 80-85c junction temp at 430W. Is that bad? The gpu is around 50-55C at 430W.
I would like to see how much extra performance you get in real world gaming. It looks like the gains from watercooled are much more then last gen
Hey man, what do you think about the Nitro + with a water block on it? I think that would hit 3.0Ghz on the core
My MSI gaming 7900xtx doesn't allow me to set the fans to 0%. Is there any way for me to fix this? I've tried all of the various fan control software out there (Fan Control, Argus monitor, Afterburner, etc.)
Imagine the performance if AMD lets us unlock the 15% power limiter, these cards are sandbagging IMHO.
I want to buy and glad to hear it. But the.... YOU CAN GET part is unrealistic....
I came from Red Devil 6900XT on which I put an Alphacool block. The upgrade path competition was between Liquid Devil 7900XTX and iChill Frostbite RTX4090. Went for the latter due to 2x the RT performance, better upscaling and Frame Generation. The price difference in Asia was only 250€ so it made sense.
Frostbite has a 450W PL, however it can still be OC'd around 7% by upping the voltage to 1.1mv, and the clocks stay at 3.065ghz consistently at +130mhz core, memory did a solid +800mhz, passing the Port Royal stress test of 30 loops. Temps stay under 63C at worst case scenario, hotspot 75C, most of the time 45-55C core and 55-65C hotspot. No coil whine after the first two weeks of screaming like a pig.
Just justifying my choice aloud on the internet! :D
Are there any AIO Pump-Radiator-Fans systems that may be directly screwed into this GPU? My searches have been frustrating🙄
Any thoughts on the ASRock aqua 7900xtx vs this? I am running the aqua myself and it's wonderful so far.