Happy Tylerienmam Networks Cool isn't it? I thought this angle was really cool because you can see how the pincups set the pins, when tilt back as the table goes up so that they don't knock over the pins. Really amazing how this machine from from the 50s was designed, and still works today!
Chris Weber The 82-30 went into production in 1946 but there was a lot of resistance to buying them due to their cost. Pin boys were considered by most proprietors to be very inexpensive compared to the 82-30. Eventually the proprietors saw the advantage and started buying the due to the faster ball return and reliable operation. The Brunswick model A wasn't installed in the first installation till 1956 as Brunswick refused to sell the model A until they worked out all the bugs and it was reliable. The model A didn't offer the same amount of time until they started adding the first Brunswick automatic scoring system at which point the detector was modified to eliminate the 90 degree over travel so the scoring system could detect the standing pins after the second ball was rolled.
82-30's are notorious for making pins dirty. Too much oil and grime collect in the spotting cups. This center has the updated chassis's. On a strike cycle, when the table is full, the table will wait for the sweep to completely clear before spotting pins. As opposed to the original chassis where the table starts spotting before the sweep is out. Prevents table/sweep crashes during " out of cycle" malfunctions.
I could always tell a 4400 or 3930 chassis apart from the 5850 and later ones by the table behavior on a strike cycle (from a bowler's point of view); the table will not begin to descend to place a full set until the rake is fully forward on the 3930/4400s. The later chassis have the table descending as the rake moves forward. Just a bit of trivia ;)
Not sure why they ever changed it with later ones, as the clearance is way too slim between the headpin and the sweep for my liking on a strike cycle. Have it from time to time where if the sweep timing shifts ever so slightly the sweep will knock the pin from the cup on a strike cycle, so we'll have to run 19 pins in the machine until we can adjust it.
I had always wondered why in some houses the table would stop momentarily to allow sweep clearance while other houses would have the table on continuous movement on strike cycles. I did have a chance to work with 82-70s and the table always stopped on a strike cycle to allow the sweep to return to its rest position. When I was working with the 82-70s, I observed the interaction between the sweep and the table at the switches and noticed that the TA1 switch, rather than the TA2 switch, controlled the lifting of the sweep, which was lifting way too early, leaving the table exposed.
@@danfreiberger5137 I recall seeing a couple of places in the 1970s which had recently installed 82-70ss machines and exhibited sweep behavior like you describe. I thought they were set that way for visual effect, but I saw the potential danger to the table as well. I never knew exactly what controlled the sweep since I was never a lane mechanic or pinchaser, thank you very much for that insight.
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I love that this historic bowling equipment is still in use you have an amazing alley sir!
Makes me feel like a little kid. Thanks for this bit of my early bowling years.
That's cool how the sweep arm works, it must be on some kind of roller bearing thing
We have 82-30 here as exactly like that. Same pin sweep and everything except they have underground ball returns.
omg! i can even see they setting pins from that angle
Happy Tylerienmam Networks Cool isn't it? I thought this angle was really cool because you can see how the pincups set the pins, when tilt back as the table goes up so that they don't knock over the pins. Really amazing how this machine from from the 50s was designed, and still works today!
Chris Weber cool so that everyone would be like "Screw the brunswick model A!"
Chris Weber If there was no such thing by internet I would me bored 24/7
Chris Weber
The 82-30 went into production in 1946 but there was a lot of resistance to buying them due to their cost. Pin boys were considered by most proprietors to be very inexpensive compared to the 82-30. Eventually the proprietors saw the advantage and started buying the due to the faster ball return and reliable operation.
The Brunswick model A wasn't installed in the first installation till 1956 as Brunswick refused to sell the model A until they worked out all the bugs and it was reliable. The model A didn't offer the same amount of time until they started adding the first Brunswick automatic scoring system at which point the detector was modified to eliminate the 90 degree over travel so the scoring system could detect the standing pins after the second ball was rolled.
That headpin was about an inch off when reset. 5 pin off by about 1/4"
Do have to say after working on them myself. If they're off as small of amount as they were, especially on respot, it's not even worth the hassle.
The pins are old lol XD glad they are still in use though!
82-30's are notorious for making pins dirty. Too much oil and grime collect in the spotting cups. This center has the updated chassis's. On a strike cycle, when the table is full, the table will wait for the sweep to completely clear before spotting pins. As opposed to the original chassis where the table starts spotting before the sweep is out. Prevents table/sweep crashes during " out of cycle" malfunctions.
I could always tell a 4400 or 3930 chassis apart from the 5850 and later ones by the table behavior on a strike cycle (from a bowler's point of view); the table will not begin to descend to place a full set until the rake is fully forward on the 3930/4400s. The later chassis have the table descending as the rake moves forward. Just a bit of trivia ;)
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Not sure why they ever changed it with later ones, as the clearance is way too slim between the headpin and the sweep for my liking on a strike cycle. Have it from time to time where if the sweep timing shifts ever so slightly the sweep will knock the pin from the cup on a strike cycle, so we'll have to run 19 pins in the machine until we can adjust it.
I had always wondered why in some houses the table would stop momentarily to allow sweep clearance while other houses would have the table on continuous movement on strike cycles. I did have a chance to work with 82-70s and the table always stopped on a strike cycle to allow the sweep to return to its rest position. When I was working with the 82-70s, I observed the interaction between the sweep and the table at the switches and noticed that the TA1 switch, rather than the TA2 switch, controlled the lifting of the sweep, which was lifting way too early, leaving the table exposed.
@@danfreiberger5137 I recall seeing a couple of places in the 1970s which had recently installed 82-70ss machines and exhibited sweep behavior like you describe. I thought they were set that way for visual effect, but I saw the potential danger to the table as well. I never knew exactly what controlled the sweep since I was never a lane mechanic or pinchaser, thank you very much for that insight.
there's another side view video, and this is much clearer.
Asked it once nobody answered so ill ask it again, are you related to pete weber?
Nope :)
Ok