I followed your XMonad journey for years, using it for a time. Now, I have returned to MATE as I no longer have time to mess around with a tiling manager. Still watching you as your Linux videos are outstanding!
Your videos are the reason I use tiling window managers! While I'm not using Qtile this particular video game me an aha moment to fix an issue I was having with my hyprland config file 😄🙏🏽
Qtile is the best. I have three monitors, and on one set of screens I have my personal stuff, and on one set I have my work stuff. I have a function to quickly switch between the set of three screens. Aside from that, I just overall love the WM.
X11 will still be alive and well thanks to people like Distrotube here. Also I realized something after listening to DT reinstalled everything. I might be in the wrong here but I starting to understand why the immutable distro. The base system, or the host is kept to the minimum. The rest of the packages is either in flatpaks which is its own environment so if a flatpak breaks, it's flatpak. Fedora Silverblue has toolbox that contains a discount Fedora image inside, like half a VM machine, so if something breaks it probably breaks in there as well. Why immutable distro is rock solid, cuz you are meant to change and break shits somewhere else, not on the main system.
Plus, another major advantage is , with every package you install on an Arch or an Ubuntu through their package manager, you are giving that package root access (at least while it installs.) With immutable distros and flatpaks / snaps / distroboxes /etc, nothing _EVER_ has root access. Especially if you set up flatpaks to be --user and the like.
Excellent DT! You have me wanting to try your distro and definitely this tile manager with your great customizations. Thank you for sharing especially such organized and commented documentation! Proud to help support your work!
Thanks for explaining the config again. Planing on bring QTile as a second window manager after Awesome, this is going to help. Just one question: what’s your key binding to swap a program to other monitors?
Hi, I just wanted to thank you. I've just changed my PC and used that oportunity to make some changes. I switched from i3wm to Qtile and it's so much better!
Since Qtile is compatible with Wayland it would be very interesting of you to "review" its functionality. You are quiet experienced so I assume you have a lot to say about that topic. :)
Forgive my multiple posts here today. I'm just loving qtile too. Regarding the qtile bar: I find icons take up too much space on a laptop. No need for words/icons to show what something does, I know that already. Just show the output. Never needed the 'currently running program' to show either. Removing that alone releases 50% more space.
I don't think you can legally state it's your 2nd favourite, without stating your absolute favourite. Spit it out! As long as it's still a tiling window manager, I think you'll be okay. Whatever, I'm no snitch.
@@ZeStig Ah! Misunderstood. Just trying to help. I've seen what those tiling window manager zealots can do to a good person. Until I saw the light, I was nearly run out of town.
As a DT follower, let me question you: are you going back to XMonad? Or keeping it to QTile? I'm running XMonad and happy with it, but I WILL follow you if you'll keep it! 😀
I was trying out Garuda in both Hyprland and Qtile, but settled on Hyprland. Between them, as well as i3 and Sway, they are really similar, as expected with tiling managers. However, the curved corner was an aesthetic that helped sway me to Hyprland. But Qtile was a really close second, as it and Hyprland functionally were the most intuitive to me. Although Openbox on Maybox is still my main rig, Hyprland is winning me over. Openbox is a good transition from window to tiling management, and does have some great features.
Just watched the video. Whether ChatGPT or any auto-generated video content will replace the DT RUclips channel, the answer is never. I love what DT is doing and how he do it, no AI in the world can replicate it like this.
I use ly display manager instead of sddm. Never saw the point of wallpaper with a tiling window manager and that same thought extends to logging in. I like everything black. Even have emacs matching the qtile bar, so that it looks continuous/seamless. Ly will present you with a completely blank/black screen with space to enter your password. Your username once entered the first time will remain as the default. I believe you can have some sort of moving fire graphic, but I like it as is. Plain and simple... just like me.
It maybe a silly question but are you going to be updating DTOS? I like the interface and when I get tempted to try doom emacs ( I use neovim mostly) I spin up a VM of DTOS and use it
Hey, DT. Looks like I'll be switching to qtile myself soon. I'm currently still running xmonad on Arch after all these years and with the adoption rate of wayland, I may be S.O.L to continue running xmonad. So, it's either adopt qtile or some bloated full DE like Plasma. It took me almost a year to get comfy with xmonad, forcing myself to use it everyday. Now, after 4 years, I'm pretty much forced to move to something else. Oh well, best for me to get started now. 😫
I switched to Qtile from i3 about 3 months ago. I think having to configure it will help me learn Python. I used i3 for about 10 months but I will most likely use Qtile for many years. Until maybe I decide i want to learn another language. It's kinda like a 'language immersion program' haha
The installer for Acro is freaking crazy. Just ran a new install the other day. "Hey DT - how do you take the ISO image of Acro - and reverse it for your own Acro-based distro?"
if possible can you please do an explanation on how the monitor layouts work on qtile? like coming from dwm/hyprland where you just allocate workspaces to monitors the qtile system is a bit confusing on how it actually even works
Out of curiosity, do you think that spending so much time configuring a terminal layout is necessary? I see your channel because I am interested on how the Linux scene moves, but I am one of those Linux developers that use Eclipse and the desktop apps (sometimes a console). To me it is shocking to see how much time and effort is put to configure some consoles. What is the advantage of configuring the consoles like this?
I'm surprised that's even a question man. I'm trying to stop myself from configuring, I'm not looking for reasons to configure. You got to try giving ZSH a color scheme, it's so much fun.
I've been programming in python for a while now, this might be enough for me to just try qtile and get back to window managers, I can't stand the DEs I'm using these days
Does the Brave browser support hardware video decoding on Linux? I know Firefox does (at least with AMD GPUs, I think it's much more difficult getting it working with Nvidia).
@@Sreelakshmi-pu3ri It's pretty easy to set up on Arch Linux with Firefox if you have an Intel or AMD GPU. It saves soooooooo much battery when doing things like watching RUclips. On my long train journeys, battery life jumped from about 2 hours to around 5.5 hours.
Most terminals I've used I can adjust the background transparency and text color but I couldn't seem to find out how in Alacritty I couldn't figure it out but I'm using it with Pop Os and xfce.
I discovered this a few weeks back. It's convenient to do it from within qtile config without installing any other software just for setting wallpaper.
In some circles, telling someone they should use Wayland is fighting words! 🤣 I still don't see why so many people hate it, but I think hardware and other compatibility is what's been an issue for some people.
From what I’ve read Wayland still has many issues as a display server, it is not as robust as Xorg. Some examples are that OBS has many issues running on Wayland, or that Wayland doesn’t works properly on Nvidia hardware.
meetoo.. if you could one day explain qtile-installation as of debian 12 and derivates with the virtual deviation needed, that would fill a gap. my gap obviously.
Why don't you do a river video? It's like DWM but without the patches. Everything is done from a bash file "init" you can write it in any language you want. Changes go into effect on restart with a keyboard shortcut . Or from command line ./init
BTW, Would you believe me if I said someone is attempting to make a FOSS clone of GTA ? (It's called Dani's race) on library (I get censored if I use the other name of that website)
Who is selling this to noobs?!?! No, Windows won't be coming with a tiling window manager any time soon. This is for power users (who are tinkerers, as well), OBVIOUSLY.
but its not the tiling ability that linux need, dude. a lot of professional multimedia workflows dont even need to tile their work windows because multimedia workflows like music productions or graphics always need the window (if its required ) to be in CORRECT ASPECT RATIOS. even for simple stuff like video editing. people would rather have multiple monitors and display all the work window in its correct aspect ratios. i think tiling windows would only work for type of workflows like coders/programmers, and those who work in businesses. that dont require correct displayed aspect ratios. while the problem with wayland is for multimedia professional work isnt in the window tiling, its the fact when you have to use multiple windows(like VSTi) some of those window may have a broken mouse click sensing "field" in it. that some part of area can not respond to the mouse clicks because the scaling in it is WRONG(wayland problems). or just not responding at all. or the supposed VSTi simply blank. due to problems in wayland in displaying them. wouldnt it be great when its finally time that we all could see professionals from all kind of workloads can move from microsoft windows to linux? at the moment, that option is hardly available.
Some people never learn... Rolling release isn't suitable for a production machine! No matter how great is a rolling release, sooner or later it will brake!!! Rolling is good for dev, but not for stable production.
reinstalling everything is always pain, because installing the 4 million libs you need, getting the 5 trillion hacks to work again and finding a backup of your wallpaper is always taking so much time... like why should i waste 2 - 4h... fair, i could install windows in 2h, try to get everything to work, upgrade to 128gb of ram and then do everything in wsl and work after 4 weeks of trying to get stuff to work and then having it break on the next update... xD
Qtile? Phh. Python is a complicated language. Complex review, uses too many resources, too long code sources. One of the worst languages for tiling windows manager.
I'm curious, have you tried Qtile before? It's really not that resource intensive, it typically runs at around 60-80MB in memory usage with very minimal CPU usage. The devs have done a great job at optimizing it. The scratchpads are amazing, to the point I always find I want that scratchpad functionality in other WMs I've checked out.
@@darthvader1191 Lua, bash is much easier. Python is lot of dependecies, lot of resources. While the essence of the tiling window manager is to be simple and fast, in a word, minimalist. It's a shame to argue about that.
DT is the reason I became addicted to Tiling Managers. 🙂
one of several, but definitely one of!
Me too. I learned about them in DT’s channel.
The Obscure Window Manager series got me going
Me too!!
Yeah fr, me too 😂
I followed your XMonad journey for years, using it for a time. Now, I have returned to MATE as I no longer have time to mess around with a tiling manager. Still watching you as your Linux videos are outstanding!
Your videos are the reason I use tiling window managers! While I'm not using Qtile this particular video game me an aha moment to fix an issue I was having with my hyprland config file 😄🙏🏽
Qtile is the best. I have three monitors, and on one set of screens I have my personal stuff, and on one set I have my work stuff. I have a function to quickly switch between the set of three screens. Aside from that, I just overall love the WM.
Took me a while to realize that keyboard switching between different monitors was just a few lines in the config. Nice.
qtile is my home, where I always get back to.
X11 will still be alive and well thanks to people like Distrotube here.
Also I realized something after listening to DT reinstalled everything. I might be in the wrong here but I starting to understand why the immutable distro. The base system, or the host is kept to the minimum. The rest of the packages is either in flatpaks which is its own environment so if a flatpak breaks, it's flatpak. Fedora Silverblue has toolbox that contains a discount Fedora image inside, like half a VM machine, so if something breaks it probably breaks in there as well. Why immutable distro is rock solid, cuz you are meant to change and break shits somewhere else, not on the main system.
Plus, another major advantage is , with every package you install on an Arch or an Ubuntu through their package manager, you are giving that package root access (at least while it installs.) With immutable distros and flatpaks / snaps / distroboxes /etc, nothing _EVER_ has root access. Especially if you set up flatpaks to be --user and the like.
Been messing around with configuring sway & waybar, python based configs is looking very appealing. Great vid, DT!
Excellent DT! You have me wanting to try your distro and definitely this tile manager with your great customizations. Thank you for sharing especially such organized and commented documentation! Proud to help support your work!
Thanks for explaining the config again. Planing on bring QTile as a second window manager after Awesome, this is going to help.
Just one question: what’s your key binding to swap a program to other monitors?
Hi, I just wanted to thank you. I've just changed my PC and used that oportunity to make some changes. I switched from i3wm to Qtile and it's so much better!
FYI, if you don't already know Erik has made an official package, of your Qtile config, for Arco... he's put a video out about it. 🙂
Since Qtile is compatible with Wayland it would be very interesting of you to "review" its functionality. You are quiet experienced so I assume you have a lot to say about that topic. :)
Been using qTile ever since your original videos.
Always was the simplest one to setup.
No little automobile wreck is /g/onna keep DT down! Glad to see you posting again!
Forgive my multiple posts here today. I'm just loving qtile too. Regarding the qtile bar: I find icons take up too much space on a laptop. No need for words/icons to show what something does, I know that already. Just show the output. Never needed the 'currently running program' to show either. Removing that alone releases 50% more space.
QTile's my 2nd favourite. I run Hyprland on Arch nowadays.
I don't think you can legally state it's your 2nd favourite, without stating your absolute favourite. Spit it out! As long as it's still a tiling window manager, I think you'll be okay. Whatever, I'm no snitch.
Hyprland is my current favourite, that's why I daily-drive it.
@@ZeStig Ah! Misunderstood. Just trying to help. I've seen what those tiling window manager zealots can do to a good person. Until I saw the light, I was nearly run out of town.
As a DT follower, let me question you: are you going back to XMonad? Or keeping it to QTile? I'm running XMonad and happy with it, but I WILL follow you if you'll keep it! 😀
I was trying out Garuda in both Hyprland and Qtile, but settled on Hyprland. Between them, as well as i3 and Sway, they are really similar, as expected with tiling managers. However, the curved corner was an aesthetic that helped sway me to Hyprland. But Qtile was a really close second, as it and Hyprland functionally were the most intuitive to me. Although Openbox on Maybox is still my main rig, Hyprland is winning me over. Openbox is a good transition from window to tiling management, and does have some great features.
Have you tried qtile in wayland mode or not yet? :)
Just watched the video. Whether ChatGPT or any auto-generated video content will replace the DT RUclips channel, the answer is never. I love what DT is doing and how he do it, no AI in the world can replicate it like this.
this is so sick, your vids help me understand this stuff so much better.
I use ly display manager instead of sddm. Never saw the point of wallpaper with a tiling window manager and that same thought extends to logging in. I like everything black. Even have emacs matching the qtile bar, so that it looks continuous/seamless. Ly will present you with a completely blank/black screen with space to enter your password. Your username once entered the first time will remain as the default.
I believe you can have some sort of moving fire graphic, but I like it as is. Plain and simple... just like me.
Looks nice, but it's not for me. I prefer traditional desktop like KDE. The key bindings to remember alone would drive me nuts.
It maybe a silly question but are you going to be updating DTOS? I like the interface and when I get tempted to try doom emacs ( I use neovim mostly) I spin up a VM of DTOS and use it
Hey, DT. Looks like I'll be switching to qtile myself soon. I'm currently still running xmonad on Arch after all these years and with the adoption rate of wayland, I may be S.O.L to continue running xmonad. So, it's either adopt qtile or some bloated full DE like Plasma. It took me almost a year to get comfy with xmonad, forcing myself to use it everyday. Now, after 4 years, I'm pretty much forced to move to something else. Oh well, best for me to get started now. 😫
Thanks for a great explanation!
I'm seriously thinking about installing qtile. I need to figure out how to minimize specific windows. If I could do that, I'd move.
I switched to Qtile from i3 about 3 months ago. I think having to configure it will help me learn Python. I used i3 for about 10 months but I will most likely use Qtile for many years. Until maybe I decide i want to learn another language.
It's kinda like a 'language immersion program' haha
No more Xmonad? Haven't tried Qtile yet. But, I would love to see a compare / contrast between these two.
The installer for Acro is freaking crazy.
Just ran a new install the other day.
"Hey DT - how do you take the ISO image of Acro - and reverse it for your own Acro-based distro?"
Gonna have a shufty at your configs, as I've recently installed Qtile on Arco L. I'm not liking the defaults too much!
Best Linuxchannel. Greetings from Sweden.
With Arcolinux, a fresh install is quite easy with a variety of choices available.
Cosmic Desktop looks like QTile written in rust
Ahm, its been a long time I have been using dwm, lets go back to qtile for some time I guess 😂😅
Welcome back DT. I love you
Welcome back....🎉
if possible can you please do an explanation on how the monitor layouts work on qtile? like coming from dwm/hyprland where you just allocate workspaces to monitors the qtile system is a bit confusing on how it actually even works
I run my setup on a 55 inch tv screen. It was cheap so why not
Qtile can show the panel along left side monitor?
Out of curiosity, do you think that spending so much time configuring a terminal layout is necessary?
I see your channel because I am interested on how the Linux scene moves, but I am one of those Linux developers that use Eclipse and the desktop apps (sometimes a console). To me it is shocking to see how much time and effort is put to configure some consoles.
What is the advantage of configuring the consoles like this?
I'm surprised that's even a question man. I'm trying to stop myself from configuring, I'm not looking for reasons to configure. You got to try giving ZSH a color scheme, it's so much fun.
I've been programming in python for a while now, this might be enough for me to just try qtile and get back to window managers, I can't stand the DEs I'm using these days
Does the Brave browser support hardware video decoding on Linux? I know Firefox does (at least with AMD GPUs, I think it's much more difficult getting it working with Nvidia).
hardware acceleration is not good in linux....but it can be configured takes time though
@@Sreelakshmi-pu3ri It's pretty easy to set up on Arch Linux with Firefox if you have an Intel or AMD GPU. It saves soooooooo much battery when doing things like watching RUclips. On my long train journeys, battery life jumped from about 2 hours to around 5.5 hours.
My favorite Window Manager is Mutter
Most terminals I've used I can adjust the background transparency and text color but I couldn't seem to find out how in Alacritty I couldn't figure it out but I'm using it with Pop Os and xfce.
How can i make my terminal look like DT's terminal
when you recognize the reference in the title...
qtile has a way to set wallpaper directly in the config, so u dont need any external program
I discovered this a few weeks back. It's convenient to do it from within qtile config without installing any other software just for setting wallpaper.
i literally just use pywal to change wallpaper
Hi I’m newish to the channel. Just curious, if you’re starting fresh, why not Wayland?
In some circles, telling someone they should use Wayland is fighting words! 🤣 I still don't see why so many people hate it, but I think hardware and other compatibility is what's been an issue for some people.
From what I’ve read Wayland still has many issues as a display server, it is not as robust as Xorg. Some examples are that OBS has many issues running on Wayland, or that Wayland doesn’t works properly on Nvidia hardware.
@@Nigthuz solved with portals. But some people refuse to use portals because… idk pride I guess
Probably because Wayland works best with Gnome. And DT thinks Gbome is bloat! Lol
meetoo.. if you could one day explain qtile-installation as of debian 12 and derivates with the virtual deviation needed, that would fill a gap. my gap obviously.
What happened to XMonad?
XMonad is now ex-girlfriend.
It was too fast. Time for some Python.
Kicked to the curb!
Lmao when you realise Haskell is hard and is still in development.
I’d like DT input here 😉
Why don't you do a river video? It's like DWM but without the patches. Everything is done from a bash file "init" you can write it in any language you want. Changes go into effect on restart with a keyboard shortcut . Or from command line ./init
qtile
i tried to install your setup in my qtile but I need to change the keyboard to azerty how can I do it
Good video.
and hyperland? why u dont install whubuntu?
Why have you got a sys tray? 😉
well, people actually like them.
Sure, but he did a video recently saying how useless they are. So why not dump it on a new set-up (I can toggle mine on/off, btw)
Free software live forever 🎉
BTW, Would you believe me if I said someone is attempting to make a FOSS clone of GTA ?
(It's called Dani's race) on library
(I get censored if I use the other name of that website)
DT dont like xmonad anymore ?😳
Think you may have a great experience with vscodium & devilspie
Devilspie sounds cool, but I doubt DT would ever use vscodium, as a died-in-the-wool Emacs / Vim guy.
Is it any better than i3?
All these WMs look exactly the same.
Python isn't the best language for everything. I use window managers that use a real language like C.
Installing Qtile on Debian was neither love nor life the last time I tried.
What about a cool-looking icon theme, background, animated windows?, how are you ever going to sell something this plain-looking?
Who is selling this to noobs?!?!
No, Windows won't be coming with a tiling window manager any time soon.
This is for power users (who are tinkerers, as well), OBVIOUSLY.
When are you going to take the Hyprland pill?...or at least dwl, not nearly enough content about that lol
do more Bottles tutorials, let's see if you're better than me
🎉 😄 👍 👌 .,.
Laughs in hypland ;)
New NixOS video when
Remap Alt to Super.
but its not the tiling ability that linux need, dude. a lot of professional multimedia workflows dont even need to tile their work windows because multimedia workflows like music productions or graphics always need the window (if its required ) to be in CORRECT ASPECT RATIOS. even for simple stuff like video editing. people would rather have multiple monitors and display all the work window in its correct aspect ratios. i think tiling windows would only work for type of workflows like coders/programmers, and those who work in businesses. that dont require correct displayed aspect ratios.
while the problem with wayland is for multimedia professional work isnt in the window tiling, its the fact when you have to use multiple windows(like VSTi) some of those window may have a broken mouse click sensing "field" in it. that some part of area can not respond to the mouse clicks because the scaling in it is WRONG(wayland problems). or just not responding at all. or the supposed VSTi simply blank. due to problems in wayland in displaying them.
wouldnt it be great when its finally time that we all could see professionals from all kind of workloads can move from microsoft windows to linux? at the moment, that option is hardly available.
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DT, let me be your row zero. Pls pls use me like u did it before with Qtile ! 🙂
Some people never learn... Rolling release isn't suitable for a production machine! No matter how great is a rolling release, sooner or later it will brake!!! Rolling is good for dev, but not for stable production.
I liked my own comment.
reinstalling everything is always pain, because installing the 4 million libs you need, getting the 5 trillion hacks to work again and finding a backup of your wallpaper is always taking so much time... like why should i waste 2 - 4h... fair, i could install windows in 2h, try to get everything to work, upgrade to 128gb of ram and then do everything in wsl and work after 4 weeks of trying to get stuff to work and then having it break on the next update... xD
WSL has its own breaking issues.
👍
Last time it took me 3-4 days 😅
@@perkulant4629 at this point i wouldn't call it issue, i would call it breaking by design...
More stable distributions don't really have this issue
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Qtile? Phh. Python is a complicated language. Complex review, uses too many resources, too long code sources. One of the worst languages for tiling windows manager.
I'm curious, have you tried Qtile before? It's really not that resource intensive, it typically runs at around 60-80MB in memory usage with very minimal CPU usage. The devs have done a great job at optimizing it. The scratchpads are amazing, to the point I always find I want that scratchpad functionality in other WMs I've checked out.
Python is known to be one of the easiest programming language, schools teach it. I'm sure you can code better than a 6th grader
@@darthvader1191 Lua, bash is much easier. Python is lot of dependecies, lot of resources. While the essence of the tiling window manager is to be simple and fast, in a word, minimalist. It's a shame to argue about that.
@@xStormyyy Yes, it was invented for idiots, it turned out to be an unintelligible piece of crap, and not a normal programming language.
@@OG900AeroThe syntax really isn't THAT bad, but yeah I kinda agree that it can be bloated for some people (meanwhile others don't mind it)
And i still love I3.... 😊