I was an atheist know-it-all college student and the Book of Mormon converted me to Jesus Christ brought this prideful boy on his knees in repentance and tasted and knew of the true God and I became born again, a new creature in Christ. I served a mission after that as I wanted to proclaim what I found out to everyone. All my friends turned their backs on me. My own mother threw my scriptures across the room slamming me in the head with them. But I knew it was true. The Spirit of God changed me forever. I'll never be the same and I'll deserve hell should I ever deny it, God as my witness.
@@johnrowley310 We don't know if he ever read the Bible; he doesn't say. The Book of Mormon teaches the same doctrine as the original Church that Christ started. The Lord says that we will "know them by their fruits". And "by the gift and power of the Holy Ghost, ye may know the truth of all things". Look at the "fruits" of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints and see for yourself. May I add: you will find what you look for. If you go in looking for faults, you will find them. If you look for great works, you will find them. Let God tell you what is true. ❤
You show an image of Joseph Smith dictating the book from the seer stone in his hat. Why did God and his prophets go through all the effort of creating and protecting the plates if Joseph didn’t even need them?
One idea I've been thinking about is he probably put the seer stone in his hat just like what we do with our phone when we put our hand over it-he was blocking the light outside do he could see the (even just Spiritual) light from the stone better.
This is excellent! I'm so proud that you're setting the record straight for others who have doubts. Please research where this book takes place. Rod Meldrum, (Provo, UT), Wayne May and others, proves over and over the BofM happened in this great land of America not Central or South America! N America is the promised land. While you're at it, please as him about translating out of a hat. Keep going dear friends you're doing a great job. God bless you.
I'm confused. The complexity of the book isn't evidence that it's accurate. There isn't archaeological evidence to back up simple of claims made in the book, such as horses and chariots in the Americas, let alone claims that some ancient Israelites migrated to the Americas. Being a literary genius capable of dictating a complex book is one thing, but I don't quite follow how the jump can be made to say it's undeniable proof that it's the word of god.
The video never claimed that the Book of Mormon's complexity is "undeniable proof that it's the word of god." The book's complexity provides good evidence that it was brought forth via miraculous means, and such a miraculous production invites belief that Joseph Smith's story about the book's origin and translation are valid. This in turn provides one (of many) valid reasons to make the truthfulness of the Book of Mormon a matter of sincere prayer and study.
Ralph, Unlike most non-profit organizations, none of the executives working for Book of Mormon Central make any money from the organization. In many cases, they have volunteered their own time and money to help provide the funding necessary to make such resources available. And those who work full time for Book of Mormon Central are clearly not in it for the money. The salaries are very modest.
@@ryandahle541 maybe it would have been better to say that dictating a story doesn't indicate any heavenly intervention in itself, especially as many of the claims made therein (the animals and crops mentioned, the lack of smelting sites for metals, lack of chariots and metal weapons, how the Atlantic was crossed, battle at the foot of Camorah etc) can't be backed up by archaeological evidence, nor corroborated by native American or Amerindian accounts of their history. It's through studying that I've been brought to this video, but its explaination is disappointing. I know its a different book, but could you explain to me how the Joseph Smith's translation of Egyptian funeral scrolls is accurate? Without that, I find it impossible to believe the accuracy by which he could translate the plates for the BoM.
Ralph, In the "About Us" tab on BMC's website it states "Book of Mormon Central is not an official part of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, but rather an independent organization." And contrary to your assertions, it does not receive "massive donations from the Church to produce content like this." As far as I know, BMC doesn't receive any funding from the Church. The executives don't get any salary, period. It is all volunteer for them. Only the regular staff (researchers, web designers, video production team, etc.) get paid. As for modest salaries, I'm not going to throw numbers around, so let's just say it is not the type of job one takes for purely monetary incentives. As far as I know, no one at FairMormon is receiving any type of "handsome compensation" for their research.
Adam, Archaeology cuts both ways. Many things mentioned in the Book of Mormon are found in ancient America. And many things that people thought were wrong about the book, including a lack of archaeological support for some items of material culture etc., have flipped flopped. Archaeology, especially for ancient Mesoamerica (where most LDS scholars believe the Book of Mormon took place) is not very good at proving negatives based on an absence of evidence. As for the "Egyptian funeral scrolls," there are a number of things in the Book of Abraham and its facsimiles that indicate ancient origin. That is a big topic, though, and I don't have time to explain my views about it. If you are truly interested in it, I recommend going through Jeff Lindsay's website for a primer on the types of evidences I am referring to. www.jefflindsay.com/LDSFAQ/FQ_Abraham.shtml
Not only did Joseph Smith repeatedly testify saying the book was translated by the gift and the power of God, he also suffered for it, was arrested for it, and eventually killed for it.
Sorry, you just said that he didn't have time to refute his claims because he was too busy handling a gun? What? I'm not understanding your argument. It sounds like you're just spitting out random things that actually have absolutely nothing to do with what I'm talking about.
From the Futon Again, you are rambling on about things that have nothing to do with my comment. Are you going to debate with me about what I said or just babble on and on to yourself about irrelevant matters?
He returned ancient truths of the Indigenous People of the Americas, and in doing so, made it clear, as to the origins of the Nations of Polynesia, which to this day, still remains a mystery to Academia. The isles of the sea, the isolated heritages. Our language, culture, belief systems and physical appearance, proves to me, beyond doubt, tihat these people in the BOM, were the ancestors of the Polynesians, the Islands of the South Pacific Ocean. Here's two simple reasons, not to mention many others, that backs these claims. We still call the Sun RA, and still practice the ancient Mosaic Law of circumcission!
New Zealand guy here. "Circumcision" (aka: genital mutilation) was/is not a practice restricted to Jews, even the Jews of Antiquity. Secondly, social languages, including their subsequent evolution, are enormously complex constructs that requires years of "backtracking' to get a fixed idea as to where any "words" originated. The sound "RA" is featured in the vocabularies of peoples far removed from one another? So what? And who informed you that the "origins of the Nations of Polynesia...remains a mystery to Academia"? Are you studying at BYU-Hawaii? Seems like it...
Pump the brakes there bud. Did you really just quote " His biographer Fawn Brodie"? As in author of No Man Knows my History as a positive thing? If I am not mistaken, she was ex'ed for writing this, and was considered Anti-Mormon at the time. She said , "He was a mythmaker of Genius talent." Therefore, he was a genius???
The reason she was quoted is because people wouldn't believe LDS sources making that claim. If she was against Joseph Smith, and called him a secret supergenius, then why would she do that? Because it's the only way that (honest) critics have of refuting the claims proposed in the video. The problem is that that does a very poor job of doing that, since he would have to have an intellect which was higher than even Tolkien by order of magnitudes, while only having a 3rd grade education. How many 3rd graders do you know that could dictate this book, without outside references or even referring back to the previously dictated text?
@@carterstelter8511 When she wrote that book, she Was an LDS source. Her whole excommunication was because she did all the research and published that book. The church has spent a lot of effort in framing her as an Anti-Mormon, driven by anger and hate, who Made up Lies about Joseph Smith. But now because her work has been proven to be correct in it's details it is Ok to cited? Just seems a little 2 faced to me. And the myth that Joseph "was a 3rd grader" is not exactly accurate either. " Don't judge a person of the past by today's standards." Ever heard that one? Ever seen what a 3rd grade education looked like back then? The church says "3rd Grade education " because it conjures up in most American minds the image of an 8 year old. Yeah- I don't know too many 8 year olds who are that smart. Know plenty of "Uneducated " 20 year olds who are much smarter than I will ever be. ( Which admittedly doesn't necessarily require all that much...low bar to clear I suppose.)
I've never heard of archaeological evidence supporting the book of Mormon. The things you say, by themselves demonstrate little to support the book of Mormon. You didn't know Joseph Smith personally so you cannot possibly know what he was capable of and how he went about doing it. This book doesn't seem authentic
After leaving the mormon church I usually try to ignore stuff like this but this is just straight up propaganda. Now where in this videos does it cite realiable sources for the arguements made but it also ignores actually historical facts pretaining the life of Joesph Smith and the creation of the book of mormon. While there are many points I can make that about the decieving character that Joesph Smith was I think that one of the biggest flaws in your arguement was that Joesph Smith somehow came up with all this in a short amount of time so he must be a genius who spoke with god. The problem is that Smith didn't make any of this up. He simply copied it from another book called the View of the Hebrews by Ethan Smith that was published in 1823. Before the book of mormon was published. The book of mormon is basically of clone of this book with some words taken directly from it. Such as "Wo, wo to this city, this temple, and this people!" (View of the hebrews pg. 20) This fact alone reveals what a fraud Joesph was to the people of followed him. If you want to see this for yourself you can read the book here. olivercowdery.com/texts/ethn1823.htm And the ces letter allows brings up many factually arguments against the book of mormon which you can read here. cesletter.org/CES-Letter.pdf
Most videos don't usually cite sources in the same way that an academic paper would. However, notice that in the description it says: "To learn more about the various topics in this video check out the references here:" bookofmormoncentral.org/blog/watch-evidence-of-the-book-of-mormon-internal-complexity If you click on the link, you will find a sampling of references which support the video's claims (many more references could be cited). I doubt that, having left The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, you will find these sources to be "reliable." But the sources are there, many of them written by scholars with legitimate degrees from credible universities. The video doesn't "ignore" facts pertaining to Joseph Smith's life. It just doesn't address them here. There are other videos from Book of Mormon Central that address the creation of the Book of Mormon: bookofmormoncentral.org/blog/watch-book-of-mormon-translation-evidence There are also articles which address the life of Joseph Smith: knowhy.bookofmormoncentral.org/content/how-can-we-know-what-to-believe-about-joseph-smiths-personal-character knowhy.bookofmormoncentral.org/content/why-would-god-choose-an-uneducated-man-to-translate-the-book-of-mormon
@@Irvingdector that is because the ridicuI0us nature 0f m0rm0nism precedes it wherever it g0es and every0ne kn0ws it was invented by a kn0wn charIatan the detaiIs 0nIy make it Iess beIievabIe it is s0 far fetched it`s n0t surprising he was assasinated
@@elderinisrael My pet Cureloms and Cumoms agree with you. Please tell me that you have a barge tightener, I need to make it tight, like unto a dish for underwater exploration. But in all seriousness -- does it bother you that they changed it so many times, even the 1830 versions? Or does it bother you that he used supernatural techniques, witchcraft, to obtain the book for treasure?
There's so much covered in this short video. Very well done, The Book of Mormon is so rich and beautiful. It makes me really grateful for everything all these prophets have done and what God has done for us to have this scripture to stand beside the Bible exactly in the times when the world would need it as another witness
37 years ago when I was 15 I read and prayed to ask God if the Book of Mormon is true. I felt the Holy Ghost testify to me with great power that this record is true and that I should live this gospel. The Spirit I felt at that you age was the most amazing and wonderful event of my life. It is super cool to see this video and these evidences but I know from God that this record is true. I challenge all to read the Book of Mormon and let God testify to them of its truthfulness.
Even in New Testament times, people didn’t believe the divinity of Jesus as the Messiah. Some people thought the things he said were very strange (or complete blasphemy). In John 6 He said that He was the bread from heaven, “the bread that I give is my flesh… whoso eateth of my flesh and drinketh of my blood hath eternal life” and many stopped following him afterward. He even asked them “doth this offend you?” Reasoning only in your mind and not with your heart and spirit will not allow truth to enter. It takes an open mind and heart.
I guess there are a mulititude of things going on, eg how did Jesus get up to Heaven without back pack jet propulsion unit, or why did he have the wounds in his hands and feet , when we speak of a perfect resurrected Body, or even wine making, when many back then were alcoholics at a wedding, Ive heard even that using your Son as a sacrifice was the most disgusting thing one could do, not my words but Richard Dawkins. I even recall a Doco recently on NDE when this particular person went to paradise , came back and recounted the experiance, he said that the ones there were of the same body an blood of christ, I guess thats true because we all have the spirit of christ in us, having taken the emblems here on earth to signify his people thru thr ordinance.
You guys are awesome!! Thank you for taking the time out of your life to defend such miraculous work. I wish I was as articulate as you guys when defending this gospel. Great job!!!
Of all that content and you fixate upon what a critic THINKS of Joseph Smith. The point there was that the critics are still critics but now have to change their point of attack. There is enough evidence here for you to stop listening to the critics and start asking the Lord. It's your own journey enjoy.
Why would gods true church have such a sketchy history from the get go. Why would he withold the priesthood from children of a different tone of skin, but impress upon his prophet to change that when civil rights issues were becoming addressed heavily in the 70s. You'd think the true church would be ahead of it's time in setting the example and being the standard of truth. Does polygamy devalue women? Why do the majority of members feel weird and awkward in the temple instead of comforted and enlightened lmao.
@OKLAHOMAWILD EDC - I can't think of a religion that doesn't have a sketchy history from the get go. The Israelites adopted the worship of El and YHWH from pagan religion(s). That is the foundation of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam.
I agree with everything here but I would like to add that it has the power to change peoples lives for the better. On my mission I saw people that gave up drugs, drinking, immorality, and turn from their former life to turn towards Christ and that is truly amazing.
When I first read the Book Of Mormon I remember it took me about as long to read it as it took the Prophet a Joseph Smith to translate it!!!!!!!!!! I remember that the missionaries that taught me the Gospel gave me the Book Of Mormon in February and I finished it in April and on April 16th I was baptized and joined the the Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter Day Saints!!!!!!! And even though I'm inactive my personal testimony of the Book Of Mormon and the Church and the Lord Jesus Christ as my Savior is still the same!!!!!!!!!!! I encourage all nonmembers to please Read the Book Of Mormon along with the Bible plus pray 🙏 along and at the same time and learn from the missionaries because they do speak the truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Remember that the truth will set you free and the Book Of Mormon contains the truth and the Gospel of Jesus Christ!!!!!!! So please open your spirit your heart and your mind so that you'll learn through the Spirit of the Holy Spirit!!!!!!! This is my personal testimony that I know that the Book Of Mormon is true and that the Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter Day Saints is the true Church on the Earth 🌎🌍🌏 today!!!!!!!!!!!!! The missionaries know the truth and will speak it to you!!!!!!!!!!! Amen!!!!!!!!!!!!
Its crazy how the missionaries back in the day went to spread the gospel yet when it came to the blacks getting their covenanted rights, seems to be selective
Words of the Apostle Paul are nearly or exactly quoted supposedly long before St. Paul’s birth in the Old Testament portion of the Book of Mormon: “steadfast and immovable, always abounding in good works” (Mosiah 5:15; 3:21/I Cor. 15:58); “mortal shall put on immortality” (Enos 27;46; I Cor.15:53); “the nurture and admonition of the Lord” (Enos 1; l/Eph. 6:4).55
Great job on the video! I still think it's crazy people refuse to read the book for themselves and instead resort to trying to find faults with it or those that were involved in the translation. Love this book, love the whole Bible, and love the continuing revelation that Christ bestows upon all of his followers who are of an open heart and a willing mind.
Neil home:how do you love the bible if LDS teaching supersedes the bible. the LDS jesus was once a man like you and me (KING FOLLET DISCOURSE)and PROGRESSED to Godhood(he wasnt always God) the BIBLICAL jesus is God ETERNALLY ,PAST ,PRESENT AND FUTURE.There was NEVER a time that jesus wasnt God....
@@sevensickszero6112interesting take. Have you read the Book of Mormon: Another Testament of Jesus Christ from cover to cover without any biases or negativity in your mind?
I’ve been an inactive church member for almost 5 years because I’ve questioned so much about the church and I have been searching for evidence like this for a very long time! I want to believe so badly that The Church is true, and these videos have got me leaning more towards the possibility that it is! They make so much sense! Thank you so much for making these! Please continue making them because the world needs this kind of education more than ever! God Bless!💜
Good luck in your quest. I thought of suggesting a couple of sources that might help you, however I'm being restrained from doing so knowing you are being guided at your own pace of wanting to know.
You don't need to believe the church is true. Just get a testimony of the BoM. They are separate things, even though some would believe you to think otherwise. I honor and hold it to be a true book, but I no longer subscribe to the church, and many of its cultural practices and judgements. God is the God of the Whole Earth and he has no limits. He reveals as he wills and to whom and whatever people He wants. Don't box God. Circumscribe all truth into one great whole.
I wish you well in your gospel journey! I would give one piece of advice. Facts, evidence, science, none of those things are capable of proving truth beyond a shadow of a doubt, so we need faith or belief to fill in the gaps. That goes for any religion or belief system. I've found that choosing to believe from the very start, can make the answers come to a lot easier. Sort of like building a house. First, you've got to build your framework of faith, everything that's necessary, and then you can add little facts and answers to questions like insulation, carpets, furniture, stuff that makes the house easier to live in, and makes you want to stay living in it more. Sorry if that was kind of a silly analogy but it's that best one I could come up with.
My dear friend, believe whatever makes you happy. But the book was plagiarized, there's no archeological evidence, Joseph was a fraud that married children, Brigham Young endorsed racism and the church acts like a corporation l
The "complexity" of the BOM speaks to the plagiarism of it, especially the plagiarism of the KJV of the book of Isaiah (including the italics) placed by the original translator's, which show's the illiteracy of Joseph Smith. P/S Joe wasn't an illiterate Farmer, he was a convicted glass looker (see 1826, Banbridge county court records) plus western new york, wasn't the frontier!!! Stop misrepresenting historical fact's, (but I guess that's what Mormons do best) this video of "evidences" is ridiculously, hilarious!!!! Kwaku, do yourself a favor and stop humiliating yourself by trying to defend what is indefensible
It always gets me how these so called evangelicals are the most rude, vile, twisted commenters on all these type articles. They claim if you don't believe what they believe you are going to hell. Yet, hell seems to be exactly what I get from there comments about their religion. Jesus Christ never preached in the manner these people do. They say do not trust in the Holy Ghost, only the bible. Yet, they all have different interpretations of what the Bible says. The Latter-Day Saints say to read The Book of Mormon yourself and pray about it, and ask God if it's true. In contrast, these vile so called Christian commenters say, you don't need to pray, just believe us. If people like Robert Swenson and others like him are representative of what they think a Christian is, I don't want to be one.
KevlarX2 Haha yeah. If these so called “Christian” guys are going to heaven, then I’d rather be in hell with the people who AREN’T yelling and gnashing their teeth at others.
@Robert Swenson No, that's not what I was saying. Christ visited the Americas. And we aren't Mormon. Its the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. We believe in Christ, the same Christ in the Bible. The Book of Mormon is another proof of Christ. The stick of Joseph and the Stick of Judah. The Book of Mormon fulfills Prophecy.
For those who say the Book of Mormon is NOT from a divine source, to what source could you ascribe the Book of Mormon? This video lists many of the arguments that must be overcome in order to disprove the Origin of the Book of Mormon as anything other than from divine source. So, If someone wants to disprove the Book of Mormon They would have to disprove these evidences AND THEN, He or She must find evidences in favor of a different Origin. If you cannot do these TWO things (1. Disprove the BoM's divine source, and 2. Prove a different source), then YOU MUST accept the DIVINE SOURCE as the most probable source. If I could quote Sherlock Holmes, "Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth." If you need suggestions for other options to explore AFTER you have somehow disproved evidences sited in this video; let me make some suggestions for OTHER ORIGINS below, and explain few of the many challenges you have to overcome for each. 1. Joseph Smith was A GENIUS. - Why did he pretend it was true? - Why did he include thing like cement buildings, when the experts at the time believed that cement buildings were not ever built by precolonial Americans? - Why did his Genius expertise Fail in other areas of life? (Literacy- couldn't write his own letters. Politically- offended many leaders, and failed campaigns. Financially- obviously risky investments that failed, bankrupted banks...) - What was his motivation for writing it? - Power/Popularity? Then- What drove him to make up religious beliefs that HE knew would be offensive. (anti-slavery, polygamy, law of consecration, divine potential of mankind...) - Money? Then- Why did he struggle with poverty for years, when so many followers would have given up their wealth if he simply requested it? - To set up Polygamy? Then- Why did he write in the book of Jacob that it is an abomination with the rare exception when the Lord commands otherwise? 2. DEMONIC forces influenced Joseph Smith write the book and gave him the ability to do this. - Why is the message of the Book of Mormon, and the teachings of the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, centered around Jesus Christ, the Family, and doing good to all mankind? - Why choose a christian, farm-boy, without education nor a highly influential position? 3. SOMEONE ELSE wrote the Book of Mormon and had Joseph Smith convince people of its divinity and start a church. - Why did another person take the effort to write the Book to have Joseph Smith take all the credit for it? - How did that person write the Book with all its evidences? - Why choose a christian, farm-boy, without education nor a highly influential position? - How did Joseph Smith receive these instructions/writings while still convincing others that He wrote them, along with the witnesses of the Book of Mormon? 4. ALIENS brainwashed Joseph Smith. - I have actually heard an anti-mormon say this one before. All I have to say is... Really??? 5. Joseph Smith is actually from the FUTURE and brought the Book of Mormon back with him. - Again...Really??? Is there any other origin possibility that I missed?
@@enigmaticvaran6597 you would think that such a big, collaborated effort, by Oliver Cowdery, David Whitmer, Martin Harris, the Page family, other members of the Whitmer family, members of Joseph Smith's immediate family, including spouses/parents/siblings....you would think that ONE OF THEM would have tried to expose it. Martin Harris' wife was surely a sceptic, pressuring Martin Harris to turn over the translated portion of the Book of Lehi. Many looked at Joseph very skeptically. But those in his innermost circles, those involved in the translation process, never once said a word trying to expose the work as false.
Let's look at #2 in your list. Satan works by deception. What is more deceptive, to offer someone a wooden nickel, or to give them a shiny coin that looks just like a nickel? What is more deceptive: to appear as a wild, rebellious, and wholly corrupt angel, or to appear as a good angel of mercy, but introduce subtle theories that misguide souls and lead them down a false path? Clearly, the latter is far more deceptive. You must vastly underestimate the power and ingenuity of evil angels, if you think they will appear with horns and pitchforks. The Catholic Church is considered to be a leading representative of Christianity, by many millions. Think of her hospitals, the sacrifices and outward piety of her devotees, the great works of art adorning her halls, the work of the orders of charity, etc. Surely this must prove her to be divine? Not at all. How easily we are fooled by outward show. That same church teaches that she has the authority to change God's law. She teaches that God burns the wicked forever in an eternally burning hell fire. She teaches that heretics should be punished by the state if they will not convert. She teaches that man can do works of supererogation (works beyond what God requires that can act as a store of goodness). She teaches that real faith is belief in the sacraments, and that salvation only comes through the ministration of her priesthood. She teaches that the common man cannot be trusted with the Bible, except it be interpreted for them by the priests. She teaches that Christ took a super-pure humanity that none of us have, and therefore, we cannot truly follow Him. And many, many other heresies that lead away from Christ, are all taught by her. While it is nicer to be around people who are trying to do good, in the end, only those whose faith is that of Jesus Christ himself, and who keep the commandments of God as He intended them to be kept, will be safe. The rest will all follow the passions of their hearts, as their own nature, and Satan's influences work upon them. There are terrible times ahead that will lay bare all the hypocrisy that masks as true religion. Having said all that, I have met some very wonderful people who come from the Mormon church or background, and I hope that their faith is sincere, and that in spite of any errors that they are surrounded with, they are, "by nature" following the truth because God has set the love of it in their hearts. But there is no stopping point for those who want to "follow the Lamb wherever He goes..." We cannot rest on a tradition and take pride in it...that is not resting in God and building on His foundation.
If there is one true church then Satan owns all others. If Satan owns all others that means he will attack the true church persecute them. The church he attacks is the church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints. So members of the church don't get angry about these comments against our church and try to .
The more complex a lie is, the easier it is to expose. If The Book of Mormon was a lie, it would have been exposed as such, the church would have fallen a long time ago.
Actually repeated stylometric analysis of the Book of Mormon consistently favors the idea that each book of the Book of Mormon was written by a separate author, each with their own writing style.
yeah I was thinking that too, haha, though it might be difficult to state something verbatim after going over a bunch of other stuff and not looking back at it, but they should have explained the idea with that one a little better
"The intricate structure and detailed complexity of The Book of Mormon seem far better explained as the work of several ancient writers using various written sources over the space of centuries than exploding suddenly from the mind of a barely educated manual laborer on the American frontier." -- Daniel Peterson
Oh Daniel Petersen, Mormon apologist who said there was no suppression of the first vision accounts, completely denying the fact that Joseph Fielding Smith tore out the part of the first vision account from Joseph Smith's diary, hiding it away in a safe, only realizing it once word got out?
@@lynnanderson7146ho was a scribe prior to when Joseph met Oliver? Also, Oliver never took credit for the BoM nor did he deny how he swore it came about, even as one who left the church.
@@stelladavis7832did the church hide it or did a person lock it away for another purpose? We still had many other accounts from Joseph or from an interviewer of Joseph about the first vision. Joseph knew he was being quoted and interviewed, you think he didn’t know that the record of what he said and wrote about the first vision in each instance wouldn’t get out? You’re disingenuous if you think he didn’t describe what happened accurately in each account, even the one that JFS “hid” from us. I love the Joseph Smith Papers, they deflate many a grand accusation and argument. I love that I can read them whenever I want to.
A great man will know the truth when he realizes the evidence but the greatest of all men know the truth by faith and prayer. The BOM isn't true because RUclips's make videos and scholars workout fine details, the BOM is true because it is. Joseph Smith is a true prophet. The truth doesn't stop being the truth just because people don't believe it. Critics will be humbled but it will be okay, even those who fight nonsensically against the church will be welcomed with smiles and charity and peace.
J McGlynn there are many cases in history in which a person is slandered and there are rumors and lies spread to turn the public away from them. Some of the thing you have heard about Joseph may be true, some may not. But Joseph was human. He was not perfect. Regardless of Joseph’s standing, or even the validity of the book he translated, the Book of Mormon teaches nothing but goodness. People read Harry Potter because it’s entertaining, but also because it has good morals. The characters learn to choose light, and it uplifts those who read it. It’s not gospel, but that’s no reason to slander it and claim that it’s of the devil. The same should be true for the Book of Mormon. Why would someone with malicious intent create a book with no ill will towards anyone?
To build on what you said, well your point is a higher spiritual point, but to build on the unimpeachable logic which I am about to give that Joseph Smith is a prophet of God, I point to the first ever fulfillment of Revelation 12. (see LDS Revelation 12 Utube video) Joseph Smith could not have chosen to be born 27 years before the first ever fulfillment of Revelation 12. Joseph Smith simply did not know Revelation 12 was being fulfilled during Rosh Hashanah blowing of the Shofar representing new word from God when Maroni gave him the gold plates. Joseph Smith could not have thought at age 13 that I am going to orchestrate events and stories to harmonize with the first ever Revelation 12 event. When you watch the video I suggested you will see that God organized the planets and stars to show us that Joseph Smith is His prophet, and that the Book of Mormon is true. Of course you can put this unimpeachable proof in front of a person and they will still reason it away in their own mind. These same people find a way to believe idols are somehow gods, one wokeism is somehow morally superior to God's commandments.
I recently finished the Book of Mormon again this year. But this time I was studying it more thoroughly. I read and marked a lot of fascinating things that I never saw before. I was nearing the end when I followed a footnote that led me to John 10:20-21 (Think of Joseph Smith in these verses.) "And many of them said, He hath a devil, and is mad; why hear ye him? Others said, These are not the words of him that hath a devil. Can a devil open the eyes of the blind?" The "EYES OF THE BLIND." Does the Book of Mormon open one's eyes? Yes! Plainly. I was not expecting the Bible to tell me the Book of Mormon was true. So now I'm in the middle of reading the New Testament and may I add, I'm surprised on how Mormon this book is!
Lucifer’s Apron When Lucifer appears in the Mormon temple ceremony he is wearing an apron. When Adam asks him about it Lucifer boldly replies: “It is an emblem of my power and Priesthoods” (25:15). So, there is no ambiguity here-the apron has nothing to do with God; it is an emblem of Satan’s power and priesthoods. A few minutes later, when they hear God coming, Lucifer tells Adam and Eve to make themselves aprons and hide (25:45). Adam replies, “Come, let us hide,” and at that point in the ceremony everyone is told to put on their aprons. And they do. So, for the rest of the ritual, on top of their temple undergarments with the masonic-type markings, and on top of their white temple clothes, temple patrons wear a dark green apron-in obedience to Lucifer and symbolizing his power and priesthoods. This stands in stark contrast to what happens in the Bible: God removes the fig-leaf coverings that Adam and Eve make and replaces them with animal skins He provides. This foreshadows and represents the covering for sins provided by Jesus when he was slain on the cross as the Lamb of God (see John 1:29; Hebrews 9:22). Will We Listen to Lucifer or Jesus? Lucifer says, “Make you aprons.” In effect, do some of it yourself-it’s the only way to preserve some semblance of pride, dignity, and self-respect, and to gain for yourself what you need. That is quite consistent with the instructions every Latter-day Saint is given before going through the temple endowment ceremony. Your Endowment is, to receive all those ordinances in the House of the Lord, which are necessary for you, to enable you to walk back to the presence of the Father, passing the angels who stand as sentinels, being enabled to give them the key words, the signs and the tokens, pertaining to the Holy Priesthood, and thus gain your eternal exaltation. (7:05) Jesus said, “It is finished” (John 19:30). In effect, “I’ve done it for you, all of it. Now are you willing to humble yourself enough to simply take it?” As long as you are trying to contribute anything of your own to merit God’s provision of eternal life in His presence, you are rejecting the gift of Jesus Christ’s finished work on your behalf. Maybe the reason your life and relationships are not all you know they should and could be is because you’re still spiritually tied to Lucifer’s apron strings. When you’re ready to be free here’s what you do. Call out in humility to Jesus, tell him you’re sorry for trying to contribute to your own worthiness and that you accept God’s forgiveness, perfection and eternal life as free gifts. When you do Jesus will cut your spiritual ties to Lucifer forever. Jesus said: "Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest” (Matt. 11:28). (Nowhere in the Scriptures does Jesus say anything about an apron…or grips…or signs and tokens.) You can trust Jesus.
The church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is indeed the everlasting gospel as stated in the book of 'Revelation' below Revelation 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, Revelation
@@janicebaice6870 The gospel is “everlasting” in that is an eternally unchanging message. False doctrines come and go, and new teachings are like wind and waves that toss the unsuspecting every which way (Ephesians 4:14). Especially chaotic and dangerous is the doctrine of the Antichrist and his false prophet in Revelation 13. Countering the lies and false teaching of the beast is the everlasting gospel in Revelation 14. The message of salvation through faith in Christ is eternal truth; it is as solid and unchanging as God Himself, and those who believe the gospel will reap everlasting benefits. The CJCLDS has a false gospel. They ridicule Jesus Christ and claim he is the brother of Lucifer. The Bible calls this blasphemy. The brother of Lucifer never died on a cross. Jesus said your sins would not be forgiven if you did not believe He was God. John 8:19 So they were saying to Him, “Where is Your Father?” Jesus answered, “You know neither Me nor My Father; if you knew Me, you would know My Father also.” 24 Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe that I am He, you will die in your sins.”
It should have led you to this instead... Galatians 1:8, ESV: "But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the ONE we preached to you, let him be accursed." If you truly feel that your false religion can stand up on its own, watch the Bible vs. Joseph Smith. (Amazon prime) I dare you... The Bible is the only authority that stands. The BOM contradicts it in every way. You cannot become a god. You cannot save yourselves from your sin and you cannot just throw out parts of God's Revelation that don't suit your doctrines.
But the Bible also says that anyone tries to change the gospel, even an angel, that it is from the devil. One hand you say the Bible is corrupt and not true gospel but on the other hand you quote it when it supports your opinion.
This is very well done. I really like the fact that critics were also addressed, as this is just what is needed in this day and age. Those critical of the Boof of Mormon really need to analyze why. More often it is their own rejection of Mormonism rather than the Book of Mormon itself. I know the Book of Mormon to be the word of God, just as Joseph Smith claimed it was.
Robert Swenson - so how much of the Book of Mormon have you read Robert? I read it everyday with the Bible and it enriches my life. I feel the Holy Spirit in every page. The Bible even speaks of it coming forth. When you come to the Lord with full purpose of heart, and a desire to serve Him, He can and will guide you. But you can’t ask about the truth of a book you have not read. I invite you to make this a more diligent effort on your part. It is blessing millions of people all over the world. It cold be you. Think about it. Read it. God bless you in your search.
The Bible plainly states that the gospel, with its inclusion of Gentiles, was not fully revealed until after Christ's death. Eph. 3:3-7 Paul writes "by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words, whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ) which in other ages was not made knownunto the sons of men as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit; that the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel: whereof I was made a minister ...... (See also Col. 1:26; 1 Peter 1: 1-12; Romans 16:25-26) However, the Book of Mormon maintains that this knowledge was had in 545 B.C. 2 Nephi 25:19 "For according to the words of the prophets, the Messiah cometh... his name shall be Jesus Christ, the Son of God. ... (v.23) For we labor... to persuade... our brethren, to believe in Christ, and to be reconciled to God; for we know that it is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do. 2 Nephi 26:12 "And as I spake concerning the convincing of the Jews, that Jesus in the very Christ, it must needs be that the Gentiles be convinced also that Jesus is the Christ, the Eternal God;" 2 Nephi 30:2 "For behold, I say unto you that as many of the Gentiles as will repent are the covenant people of the Lord; and as many of the Jews as will not repent shall be cast off," 2 Nephi 31:17 "For the gate by which ye should enter is repentance and baptism by water; and then cometh a remission of your sins by fire and the Holy Ghost." During Jesus' ministry He spoke of His church as something in the future. Matthew 16:18 "And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it." After Christ's resurrection and the day of Pentecost we read "And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved." (Acts 2:47) However, the Book of Mormon claims the Christian church was established as early as 147 B.C. Mosiah 18:17 "And they were called the church of God, or the church of Christ, from that time forward." The Bible says believers were first called Christians after Paul's ministry in Antioch. Acts 11:26 "And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch." However, the Book of Mormon claims people were known by this title as early as 73 B.C. Alma 46:15 "...yea, all those who were true believes in Christ took upon them, gladly, the name of Christ, or Christians as they were called, because of their belief in Christ who should come." The Holy Ghost was bestowed on the Christians at the time of Pentecost. Luke 24:49 "And, behold, I send the promise of my Father unto you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high." Acts 2:1-4 "And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. ... And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost,..." Yet the Book of Mormon claims that people received the gift of the Holy Ghost as early as 545 B.C. 2 Nephi 31:12-13 "...the voice of the Son came unto me, saying: He that is baptized in my name, to him will the Father give the Holy Ghost, like unto me... Wherefore, my beloved brethren,... by following your Lord and your Savior down into the water, according to his word, behold, then shall ye receive the Holy Ghost; yea, then cometh the baptism of fire and of the Holy Ghost;..."
Although Isaiah had many prophecies of Christ, and the Jews, as a chosen people, could have done the work the apostles did, had they understood the promises of God, there is no justification for 2 Nephi 31, if it is indeed supposedly written in the time period you state. The day of Pentecost could not come, except Christ was sacrificed first. It was the revelation of the love of God, vs. the malice of Satan, revealed at the cross, that prepared and united the disciples to make them agents of the baptism of the Holy Spirit. Since Christ did not die in 545 BC, Pentecost could not happen then. Consider also the prophecy of Psalm 68:18 "You have ascended on high, you have led captivity captive: you have received gifts for men; yea, for the rebellious also, that the Lord God might dwell among them." First was to come Christ's ascension, taking some resurrected souls with him (the captivity of the grave), and then would come the "gifts for men" in the outpouring of the Holy Spirit. Clearly, then, no death and resurrection of Christ = no outpouring of the Holy Spirit in Pentecostal power.
Why do people erroneously state that JS was uneducated ?? Do some self dilligent research and you will discover that one of his parents was in fact ( documented) a school teacher. Pardon the pun, but leave no stone unturned in your quest to seek out the truth for yourself...
The Book of Mormon is nuts. I was the most vehement anti-Mormon on this planet. I was addicted to exmormon content, I read book after book "exposing" the church, and I believed every bit of it, that Gordon B. Hinckley was gay, that Joseph Smith r-ped a 14 year old, everything. But then I actually opened the Book of Mormon and started reading and everything changed like that. That book has the strangest effect on a person.
I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints from the Philippines. Your video presentation is excellent. May I know what software you are using?
All I ever hear is it is true. TRUE TRUE TRUE. I know it's true, mom said it was true pray it to be true. It has to be true. It must be true. TRUE TRUE TRUE. How come we don't think of the Bible in this true, true true way??? Because you don't have to be mind controlled to believe in the Bible. If the Mormon church can get you to call The BOM true. Then they can get you to believe everything they throw at you...Good luck with explaining to our Lord how you are on the way to become a god.....
Hhahahahahahaha *REALISTIC BATTLES* hahaha 2 million person war, In 2500BC in America at the hill camorah. They used horses, chariots and steel swords 😂 But there is NO EVIDENCE LEFT AT ALL The world population was 72 million in 2500BC 3% of the worlds population died at that fight? But with NO REMAINS AT ALL LEFT? Not a road, not a coin, not any DNA 🤣🤣🤣
Please also watch the videos 'the Bible Vs that the Book of Mormon', and 'Joseph Smith Vs the Bible'. The book of Mormon is in itself a testimony against the ultimate authority of the Holy Bible as God's complete and finished revelation to all mankind through all the ages. The Bible simply isn't enough for them, they in fact have three other sacred scriptures, also written by, (perhaps unsurprising,) Joseph Smith. Please be aware as you veiw this video that this man and other Mormons place the book of Mormon's reliability and therefore value ABOVE that of the Bible, always defending Joseph and trying to convince everyone they should his book. Joseph Smith boasted that his book of Mormon was the most correct book on earth, and that a man could become closer to God by keeping it's precepts than any other book, (including the Bible). He taught his followers that many plain and precious truths had been removed from the Bible, even the true gospel, all of which he claimed he had restored at God's behest, Mormons believe this, effectively placing their trust in Joseph Smith above that of the Bible itself. Mormonism's abiding distrust of the Holy Bible's reliability is reflected in that church's 8th Article of faith, 'we believe that the Bible is the word of God as far as it is translated correctly. While arranging the linguistic deck chairs on the Titanic of the book of Mormon, no trace of a great and advanced JEWISH civilization can be found. A truly remarkable fact as Joseph Smith claimed that it stretched 'from coast to coast,' it's buildings 'covering the land,' and it peoples 'numerous almost as the sands of the sea',( that's millions). It is archeologicaly impossible for any such civilization to vanish. After around 180 years even the LDS church itself can only speculate the whereabouts of the book of Mormon land. The gentlemen in this video has an absolutely total trust and faith in everything Joseph Smith wrote and taught, and has obediently dedicated his life to him and the church he founded. This is authentic Mormonism, i.e., if Joseph Smith or his church said it, then it's from God, we believe it, ( sadly the unmistakable seal of a cult.) Read the Bible and trust it. Kind regards to all, especially dear Mormon folk.
You need to look into the fonoprint tests of the book and am how they match up with other great books like the Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter. It shows that no two books within the Book of Mormon could’ve possibly been written by the same people. And due to the names found within, we see many different cultures which are distinct, while Tolkien’s LOTR shows multiple races and tons of names but all of the names are connected somehow - thus they were created by the same author.
As you study the book of Mormon and the truths found there, it becomes clear that The great lakes area holds so many evidences of the books truth and validation. Now DNA found in the ancestors of the heartland Indians, Hebrew and reformed Egyptian found in native artifacts and affirmed by nonLDS scholarship. Truly the Lord has caused evedence to come forth out of the ground, and it turns out that the native peoples our ancestors treated so badly have the addional knowledge we seek just as Joseph sent the first misionaries to the North American Indians they hold the some of the keys to this sacred books past.
@1:33 " realistic battles"......i beg to differ, the BOM mentions "swords of steel" roughly a thousand years too early in america. Steel was brought to america in 1492 with the europeans.......the BOM "history" closes in 421 AD according to the "prophet" joseph smiths OWN dating of the BOM. Joseph smith would've been better off not dating his " most correct book in the world"(that has been corrected around 3900 times)......kwaku NEVER addresses my comments on his videos , maybe he's busy looking for archeological evidence for steel swords in america pre 1492? P.s. The bible and the true jesus (God the son) is all you need for salvation..."the late war"...oooops. I meant the BOM is just a made up story probably borrowing from " the late war" a school book promoted in NY in josephs youth and other books availavle to joseph with similiar story lines like the" view of the hebrews", "manuscript found"....etc...
Coming up with 588 pages worth of material in less than 3 months? Yes, that would have been impressive. But simply reading from a finished manuscript, a bit at a time, from pages hidden inside a large hat, taking breaks now and then to replenish the hat with the next pages to read? Instantly not as impressive. The angel story alone allowed for 4 years to conjure up the tale of the Nephites and Lamanires. Of course you’d have to come up with a way to not have anyone see your manuscript pages. Hmm, seems Joseph already did that with convincing everone they shouldny look upon the plates lest they surely would die. If the plates could successfully remain covered from all eyes but Joseph’s, there’s no better place to keep the pages. The magician allows for the card initially pulled from the deck to be seen by the audience. After that, he fully controls what is seen by spectators. In this facet I’d agree Joseph was brilliant. The challenge for the magician is to leave everyone feeling there’s only one explanation for what they’ve witnessed impressing them into believing. An opportunity was surely missed with the misplaced/lost/stolen 116 pages Joseph had transcribed. Rather than try to perform the same trick twice he looked for a loophole. I picture him sweating with the thought of how close he came to being figured out at that time.
None of this is evidence. It simply shows Joseph Smith was a very gifted story teller and had a good understanding of the Bible. You even admitted The Book Of Mormon is similar to fantasy novels like The Lord of the Rings. No one actually saw these golden tablets and even if they did, Joseph was the only one who could translate them. Couldn’t it be possible that Joseph Smith came up with the Book of Mormon for years before he “transcribed” these tablets? And you’re saying the prophecy of Jesus Christ is evidence? Joseph Smith already knew everything about Jesus, he easily could’ve written a prophecy about him after the fact 🤦♀️
You really need to go back and listen more closely to this video. He did not say that a prophecy of Jesus Christ is evidence. He brought up the fact that there are several prophecies in the book that later in the book come to pass just as mentioned earlier in the book. This would be difficult to remember perfectly if dictating the manuscript just one time. And no, he did not say the Book of Mormon is similar to fantasy novels. He was responding to critics who compare its complexity to Lord of the Rings. And no again to the possibility of Joseph Smith creating the Book of Mormon over several years. You didn't listen to the video. There were numerous witnesses who all agree that he was not referring to any written documents when he dictated the text. If you believe in a complex conspiracy between those witnesses, that falls apart when you realize that most of these witnesses left fellowship with Joseph Smith and the church, some even became vocal enemies. Yet even with all the motivation to expose any conspiracy that may have existed, none of them did. Again, you really need to go back and listen more carefully to this video.
@@rockartalan it is absolutely possible for someone to make prophesies of something that has already happened, it would be extremely easy. And no one knew the language on these gold tablets Joseph Smith translated, so he could have said anything and no one would have even known of any conspiracy (such as having the story already written in his mind) I’m sorry, there is no way I could see Joseph Smith being anything other than a charismatic liar.
-Lets see the facts 1st why is the 1832 book of Mormon and todays book not the same so many changes from the original - The book of Mormon mentions 150 names of cities names of regions. where as of today we have not a slightest clue where they happened and occurred. -it speaks of that Lamanites and Nephites spoke some kind of revised Egyptian; that today we see no proof. (The oldest American Indians the Olmecas, Toltecas Chichimecas, Maya, Incas and the Aztecs have no Egyptian nor Hebrew origin -Multiple migration so DNA shows they did not come from those origins -What distinct cultures the American Indians had no Hebrew costumes ( Like the pass over) or some kind of Moses reference. -Book of Mormon shows 3 calendar systems (But the only one that Hebrew followed was the lunar calendar) The truth to Mormon is that they base on a "feelings" not on facts. As you read the Bible as history shows more truth and facts. I challenge you to see the truth prove the world that the Book of Mormon is true. Being Christian is 1st. FACTS 2nd FAITH 3rd. Belief and feeling (in this order) Being Mormon is 1st. Belief and feelings 2nd Faith 3rd Facts Please seek the truth so the truth can set you free As Yeshua (JESUS) Love you and wants you to now the truth.......
"it can be demonstrated on so many different levels ... (names xyz)" - well, Game of Thrones, Starwars, Harry Potter etc. also have most of those things, maybe not the hebrew elements. And JS did have four years between the first vision and the day he got to have the golden plates to think of these things. So he had time to prepare his spontaneity.
@@jacobaarongarner the difference between me and JS is that I don't want to act with malicious intent. Therefore I lack the motivation of lying to people. But the fantasy stories I mentioned before pretty much serve the same purpose in our modern age of technology. Game of Thrones, Star Wars, Star Trek, Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter etc., some people follow these religiously. They come together on specific dates to worship in their fandom (aka Comic Con), they dress up as their favorite characters, spend a big portion (maybe even more than 10 percent) on merchandise, even learn the fantasy languages and the entire lore and defend it agains anyone who calls it bad names or dumb. Since we have the internet, a stunt like JS pulled, would not really be possible today because things do get debunked rather quickly, so new media and fiction has turned into our new "gospel". We don't live in 1830 anymore, so stop acting like we do.
And three more words that prove that it can still happen, just in a different way: NEW AGE MOVEMENT. People these days pay top dollar to get a reading from someone who claims they can speak to the dead or angels or whatever, like all of those mediums on TV.
@@ladyknight4162There's quite a big difference between the gospel and Harry Potter. One of these might actually be true and important. In everything Joseph Smith ever wrote, every letter and journal entry. Nothing, I mean nothing, shows his selfish intent. It's so much easier to believe the coming forth of the Book of Mormon as Joseph claimed. Despite all the bad things he did and what we don't understand and what we think is bad but is not, Hyrum stayed with him. Emma stayed with him. Not one of the witnesses denounced what they said. The Book of Mormon is astoundingly complex and has the ancient feel and evidences. There's too much to pan it off as a conman. This religion is serious. We're talking about our eternal salvation. What other evidence do you need to see? You need evidence to have faith at fist but when you finally have a trial of faith, the Holy Ghost witnesses truth. And this is truth eternal that we have a right to know the truth. We have the right to receive personal revelation.
@@mdennisrva4301 I know the history. I know the stupid things Joseph did a lot of that not including the things that are just rumors. I also know that we don't know a lot and I've accepted the imperfect man as a prophet of God. Something I've noticed is how hard Satin's followers has tried to push people away from the church. There's not a lot that has been attacked more fiercely than the early saints and Joseph Smith. It's utterly unbelievable all the bad things that have happened to them. And you're totally wrong about the dictation. Did you watch this video? It enplanes the intricacy so well. I doubt you'd be able to dictate a single chiasmus on the spot. The Book of Mormon is impossibly genuine and holds its own as an ancient Hebrew text.
Complexity is the word, Either ch 2 v 13 eg the Brother Jared, I for one would be utterly uncomfortable with the use of the brother of Jared being used all the time. Ive noticed that the badge on Serving Missionaries are a proud example of status this is who I am , the LDS Church and your Name , designated to that particular place to which you are called, but as for the Brother of Jared this is not so, seems so condesending. One does not speak this the Sister of Dianne, who is the Auntie of Jasmine, she the sister dianne was a recent convert to the brother of David, who was baptised in the Church last week by the Brother of Elder Frank, incidently he performed the wedding for the Sister of Dianne to the brother of Gavin
If you are reading this comment section and have not yet read the Book of Mormon, let me call attention to one fact and then mention my experience. Critics of the Book of Mormon always make the same old claim: that Joseph Smith made it all up. Overlooking a mountain of evidence making it impossible for ANYONE of the early 19th century to invent that book, these critics, you will notice, always write with contempt. You will feel their hatred. And hatred cannot be inspired of God. One question they will never be able to answer is this: Why would a man give his life in order to FOOL people... into BEING GOOD??? No one tries to con others into coming to Christ. Doesn’t happen. And yet there will be No doubt in your mind after reading the book that its entire purpose is to bring people to Christ and help them live better lives. Another question these critics cannot answer is this: How did that book, if it were a con, convince me and millions of others that is IS true scripture and cause us to change their lives for the better? That book rescued me from a life of selfishness and self-destruction, and no one can say otherwise. I know the Book of Mormon is true because of the overwhelming evidence in favor of it (If you’re looking FOR that), because it has convinced the logic of my mind, and because it has convinced the feelings of my heart. And this happened in a way, difficult to describe, that made me CERTAIN that the force or fact and force of feeling came from God. Don’t listen to critics who need the book to be false in order to justify their rejection of it. Read the book for yourself, prayerfully, and with the intent to know the truth, not to verify an assumption. God will step in and help you know that He authored the Book of Mormon through ancient prophets. He did for me.
bkgoulding I’ve read the BoM many times. It’s very poorly written and mainly copied from other similar books that were around at the time. There were no horses, sheep or elephants living in the America’s at that time. There were no steel swords, chariots and massive battles. Nothing has been found. DNA has been checked and the Indians did not come from Hebrew stock. Joseph Smith put his head in a hat and dictated the book and there were no gold plates used in the translation. You may read it a million times and get a witness, but the Jews also get a witness the Tora is true and the Muslims get a similar witness the Quran is true and so on but it don’t make it so. Joseph Smith made it up as well as the Book of Abraham and the Book of Moses. He also made up the D&C and his own translation of the Bible. The same way he made up his ability to find treasure.
Sorry dude but your argument doesn't hold up. Joseph didn't selflessly go e up his life for a cause. He destroyed a printing press and was arrested. That's hardly "selfless". Also, I read the Book of Mormon. It's plaigarized. Heavily. There's plenty of evidence against the Book. And Millions of people believe in the Torah and the Quran. Your points aren't valid.
You Know what's very Great in this Video? It gets the attention of critics and that make themselves write a very long comments of which the Spirit can't be felt.
I don't believe in the Book of Mormon (or the Bible either for that mattwr) but there is something about the Book of Mormon that has me in ongoing fascination with it, even though I don't find the KJV or the overly-Christian (aka defying Jesus) elements to be appealing.
Even if you didn't believe in the Book Of Mormon, it is a magnificent book translated or not. Joseph Smith was a very young man whom I don't believe would have been able to write it all by himself were it not for divine intervention. Just my opinion of course.
If you think the Book of Mormon is "magnificent" you haven't read enough books. It's repetitive beyond belief, boring, full of absurdities, irrelevant information, and terrible writing.
@@DoctorZisIN 1 Corinthians 2:14 "But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned."
@@Ether-pb5gb Formula for the book of Mormon: Take any bible passage, copy it, make it more wordy, repeat words and sentences like "natural man", "forever", "becometh" and "submit", sprinkle a few more words about being obedient to the cult, and there you go: "For the natural man is an enemy to God, and has been from the fall of Adam, and will be, forever and ever, unless he yields to the enticings of the Holy Spirit, and putteth off the natural man and becometh a saint through the atonement of Christ the Lord, and becometh as a child, submissive, meek, humble, patient, full of love, willing to submit to all things which the Lord seeth fit to inflict upon him, even as a child doth submit to his father." Mosiah 3:19
@@DoctorZisIN WOW!! You have a problem with somebody in the Book of Mormon mentioning the "natural man". If the Book of Mormon really is the word of God, wouldn't you expect there to be teachings about the "flesh", or the "natural man"? I would.
@@Ether-pb5gb Maybe but if the book of Mormon is the product of a family of charlatans I would expect it to contain bible verses, some exactly copied, some altered, which it does. I would expect it to contain events from the writers life transplanted into the book, such as Joseph Senior's dream, which became Lehi's dream. I would expect it to contain things about the bible shown to be fictional, like the story of the tower of babel, the patriarchs of the Jews, such as Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and Joseph with his multi-colored coat. I would expect it to contain errors from the KJV bible, which it does. I would expect it to contain anachronisms, animals, plants and objects which don't belong in the time and place, which it does, and so on. And I would expect it to be boring and full of Shiz, which it is.
These are great!! I can't wait to see more! For those who truly want to find answers please study both sides of this topic in depth. From the research I have been able to perform. I am convinced on a logical level that this book did not come from 1-3 men in the matter of a few months. Please read the Church scholars work as in depth as Anti-Mormon literature. You might be surprised what you learn.
I'm with Harold Bloom, at least as far as the Book of Mormon being very tedious to read is concerned. The bible is quite tedious in places, but the B of M is tedious pretty much throughout. The highlights are where you ask yourself whether the things described really happened 1600 years ago, and find there is little, if any, corroborating evidence for them. The tudor english in which the book is written also becomes wearing. Why was it translated into a language which was never spoken in the USA ever, let alone in the 1800s. It was thought to be outmoded when the King James Version was produced. Of course, this was the beloved version of the bible at the time, and it's no surprise that the B of M is written in this style. The fact that it is , makes the story about Joseph Smith translating it from some unknown language even less believable. How he translated anything by sticking his head into a hat is another mystery. If he did it that way, with just a couple of stones as tools, then what did he need the plates for? The plates, of course, give some provenance to the B of M. Without them, he just pulled the book out of his hat. Which, we are told, is what he did, although this sounds like it was made up, so we need an artifact onto which the original was transcribed. Hence the golden plates. Once we have this story, then people are naturally going to want to see these plates to know what was on them and so on. No problem if they are genuine and actually exist. However, if not we have to get rid of them pretty quick. Well, give them back to the Archangel Moroni then, and claim there were others after them. Get a few friends and family to say they actually saw them and Bob's your uncle. Of course, this is a skeptics paradise, so we now need some Mormon apologetics, and well honed propaganda, and here we are.
if it's a book of genius, why did the mormon church make 4000 changes. why does continue to make changes? why doesn't the mormon church teach the doctrine that's in the book of mormon? you act like you think non mormons cannot read. hey! we can read. probably most of us have graduated from grammar school. some of us even read books!
Here is an article from BMC on Joseph Smith's education: knowhy.bookofmormoncentral.org/content/why-would-god-choose-an-uneducated-man-to-translate-the-book-of-mormon
There are many journals from people during his day that describe him as barely educated and even struggled to read. However he was trained in some way by the angel Moroni, one day each year prior to taking the book for translation. Perhaps he was A genius beyond Einstein because even his most popular theories took years to prove.
I have checked your claims in this video and you have provided no real evidence. The book says it's TRUE therefore it's TRUE? PS...... the plan of salvation isnt in the book of mormon.
If the church is so true, why would the message of christ not even mention if he was married, that's apparently super important for exaltation however christ didnt lead that as an example. Why would the true church have to change with social pressure, like taking out the suicidal ritual from the temple. Why is the temple so weird lol. Why does it only focus on loyalty to the church and its leaders instead of greater messages like love and service.
Some have reasoned that Christ must have been married. But the truth is is that we do not know if he was married or not during his earthly life. It can be implied through scripture a number of ways, as some have suggested. But we just don't know. Regarding the temple, the ceremonies and rituals might seem strange to you, but they are no different in uniqueness than a catholic family taking their baby to the priest to be baptized. They are an outward performance of an inward commitment. From my studies, I have been able to find many parts of the temple ceremony in the Old Testament, in plane sight. Also, you need the spirit to understand spiritual things. 1 Corinthians 2:14 "But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned."
I would agree that it is, like it or not, an example of some of the great American literature. Smith, Cowdery, Rigdon, Whitmer, Hail, all masterfully wove together a huge story that, while it may not hold a candle to the Bible, certainly shows the influence that scripture had over those men involved to the extent of dogged and unashamed imitation.
Stylometry has demonstrated that those people did not write the Book of Mormon. See this video by the same organization. ruclips.net/video/hBcAKdbCbEc/видео.html
Sidney Rigdon was not involved in the production of the Book of Mormon. It was published almost 2 years before he first saw it. There is no legitimate evidence to the contrary.
Arel R complexity isn’t a proof u are right. Although in this case the BoM’s complexity suggests it would have required multiple geniuses with the information that wasn’t available to them back then. It’s “complexity” is that Joseph Smith had a 3rd grade education...so after we know of the factual complexity of the book. How do u then say Joseph wrote it? U can’t. There’s a book out called a case for the Book of Mormon that goes over this
I do not need any of that because the answer is there just by reading the book of mormon, and having the humility to learn to sincerely seek the truth of these scriptures and if it is true ask God he will answer in a while but when you least expect it you receive in the most beautiful way I have not forgotten it yet and I will never forget it. God wants Faith, the rest will come and strengthen what you have already demonstrated to God that you are hungry to know from him to know the truth and light will come and when you least expect it, that light will be with you constantly.
Lost me at 1:55 when Kwaku said the BOM is essentially free from error....time has shown through over 3000 revisions/corrections that is not true...just more lies, deception and misrepresentation....
You dought the BOM, how it all truefull the phrophet told me it was so . Well at least it will be correct when its revised another 10 times. Then then you will eat your words, Ha ha. Especially with the witters we can now afford due to the generous contributions due to this video appeal. lol
1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
I was an atheist know-it-all college student and the Book of Mormon converted me to Jesus Christ brought this prideful boy on his knees in repentance and tasted and knew of the true God and I became born again, a new creature in Christ. I served a mission after that as I wanted to proclaim what I found out to everyone. All my friends turned their backs on me. My own mother threw my scriptures across the room slamming me in the head with them. But I knew it was true. The Spirit of God changed me forever. I'll never be the same and I'll deserve hell should I ever deny it, God as my witness.
Thank you for sharing your personal testimony of conversion. God bless
God bless you Adam. I have gone through similar instances.
So the BOM saved you when the Bible could not...Go Joe...
@@johnrowley310 Jesus saves. Read both and you’ll learn that!
@@johnrowley310 We don't know if he ever read the Bible; he doesn't say. The Book of Mormon teaches the same doctrine as the original Church that Christ started.
The Lord says that we will "know them by their fruits". And "by the gift and power of the Holy Ghost, ye may know the truth of all things". Look at the "fruits" of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints and see for yourself.
May I add: you will find what you look for. If you go in looking for faults, you will find them. If you look for great works, you will find them. Let God tell you what is true. ❤
You show an image of Joseph Smith dictating the book from the seer stone in his hat. Why did God and his prophets go through all the effort of creating and protecting the plates if Joseph didn’t even need them?
One idea I've been thinking about is he probably put the seer stone in his hat just like what we do with our phone when we put our hand over it-he was blocking the light outside do he could see the (even just Spiritual) light from the stone better.
This is excellent! I'm so proud that you're setting the record straight for others who have doubts. Please research where this book takes place. Rod Meldrum, (Provo, UT), Wayne May and others, proves over and over the BofM happened in this great land of America not Central or South America! N America is the promised land. While you're at it, please as him about translating out of a hat.
Keep going dear friends you're doing a great job. God bless you.
Amazing, just amazing. If only people would read the book and think and pray
I have sincerely prayed and the true and living God of the Bible has told me the Book of Mormon is false.
That’s not how it works. If you need to see or feel something to know it’s true, you’re always in unbelief.
Excellent videos. Thank you.
I'm confused. The complexity of the book isn't evidence that it's accurate. There isn't archaeological evidence to back up simple of claims made in the book, such as horses and chariots in the Americas, let alone claims that some ancient Israelites migrated to the Americas. Being a literary genius capable of dictating a complex book is one thing, but I don't quite follow how the jump can be made to say it's undeniable proof that it's the word of god.
The video never claimed that the Book of Mormon's complexity is "undeniable proof that it's the word of god." The book's complexity provides good evidence that it was brought forth via miraculous means, and such a miraculous production invites belief that Joseph Smith's story about the book's origin and translation are valid. This in turn provides one (of many) valid reasons to make the truthfulness of the Book of Mormon a matter of sincere prayer and study.
Ralph,
Unlike most non-profit organizations, none of the executives working for Book of Mormon Central make any money from the organization. In many cases, they have volunteered their own time and money to help provide the funding necessary to make such resources available. And those who work full time for Book of Mormon Central are clearly not in it for the money. The salaries are very modest.
@@ryandahle541 maybe it would have been better to say that dictating a story doesn't indicate any heavenly intervention in itself, especially as many of the claims made therein (the animals and crops mentioned, the lack of smelting sites for metals, lack of chariots and metal weapons, how the Atlantic was crossed, battle at the foot of Camorah etc) can't be backed up by archaeological evidence, nor corroborated by native American or Amerindian accounts of their history. It's through studying that I've been brought to this video, but its explaination is disappointing. I know its a different book, but could you explain to me how the Joseph Smith's translation of Egyptian funeral scrolls is accurate? Without that, I find it impossible to believe the accuracy by which he could translate the plates for the BoM.
Ralph,
In the "About Us" tab on BMC's website it states "Book of Mormon Central is not an official part of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, but rather an independent organization." And contrary to your assertions, it does not receive "massive donations from the Church to produce content like this." As far as I know, BMC doesn't receive any funding from the Church.
The executives don't get any salary, period. It is all volunteer for them. Only the regular staff (researchers, web designers, video production team, etc.) get paid. As for modest salaries, I'm not going to throw numbers around, so let's just say it is not the type of job one takes for purely monetary incentives.
As far as I know, no one at FairMormon is receiving any type of "handsome compensation" for their research.
Adam,
Archaeology cuts both ways. Many things mentioned in the Book of Mormon are found in ancient America. And many things that people thought were wrong about the book, including a lack of archaeological support for some items of material culture etc., have flipped flopped. Archaeology, especially for ancient Mesoamerica (where most LDS scholars believe the Book of Mormon took place) is not very good at proving negatives based on an absence of evidence.
As for the "Egyptian funeral scrolls," there are a number of things in the Book of Abraham and its facsimiles that indicate ancient origin. That is a big topic, though, and I don't have time to explain my views about it. If you are truly interested in it, I recommend going through Jeff Lindsay's website for a primer on the types of evidences I am referring to.
www.jefflindsay.com/LDSFAQ/FQ_Abraham.shtml
Are there PDF's or anything I can get with the diagrams illustrated in the video?
They gathered all their references here: bookofmormoncentral.org/blog/watch-evidence-of-the-book-of-mormon-internal-complexity
This same principle applies to the church as a whole. The complexity of the church proves its true.
Not only did Joseph Smith repeatedly testify saying the book was translated by the gift and the power of God, he also suffered for it, was arrested for it, and eventually killed for it.
From the Futon What I meant by my comment was that he never refuted his claims, even in the face of death.
Sorry, you just said that he didn't have time to refute his claims because he was too busy handling a gun? What? I'm not understanding your argument. It sounds like you're just spitting out random things that actually have absolutely nothing to do with what I'm talking about.
From the Futon Again, you are rambling on about things that have nothing to do with my comment. Are you going to debate with me about what I said or just babble on and on to yourself about irrelevant matters?
From the Futon 👍
He returned ancient truths of the Indigenous People of the Americas, and in doing so, made it clear, as to the origins of the Nations of Polynesia, which to this day, still remains a mystery to Academia. The isles of the sea, the isolated heritages. Our language, culture, belief systems and physical appearance, proves to me, beyond doubt, tihat these people in the BOM, were the ancestors of the Polynesians, the Islands of the South Pacific Ocean. Here's two simple reasons, not to mention many others, that backs these claims. We still call the Sun RA, and still practice the ancient Mosaic Law of circumcission!
New Zealand guy here. "Circumcision" (aka: genital mutilation) was/is not a practice restricted to Jews, even the Jews of Antiquity. Secondly, social languages, including their subsequent evolution, are enormously complex constructs that requires years of "backtracking' to get a fixed idea as to where any "words" originated. The sound "RA" is featured in the vocabularies of peoples far removed from one another? So what? And who informed you that the "origins of the Nations of Polynesia...remains a mystery to Academia"? Are you studying at BYU-Hawaii? Seems like it...
Zane Le' Geire, you must be a blind white person, you really need to leave.
Pump the brakes there bud.
Did you really just quote " His biographer Fawn Brodie"?
As in author of No Man Knows my History as a positive thing? If I am not mistaken, she was ex'ed for writing this, and was considered Anti-Mormon at the time. She said , "He was a mythmaker of Genius talent." Therefore, he was a genius???
The reason she was quoted is because people wouldn't believe LDS sources making that claim. If she was against Joseph Smith, and called him a secret supergenius, then why would she do that? Because it's the only way that (honest) critics have of refuting the claims proposed in the video. The problem is that that does a very poor job of doing that, since he would have to have an intellect which was higher than even Tolkien by order of magnitudes, while only having a 3rd grade education. How many 3rd graders do you know that could dictate this book, without outside references or even referring back to the previously dictated text?
@@carterstelter8511 When she wrote that book, she Was an LDS source. Her whole excommunication was because she did all the research and published that book. The church has spent a lot of effort in framing her as an Anti-Mormon, driven by anger and hate, who Made up Lies about Joseph Smith.
But now because her work has been proven to be correct in it's details it is Ok to cited?
Just seems a little 2 faced to me.
And the myth that Joseph "was a 3rd grader" is not exactly accurate either.
" Don't judge a person of the past by today's standards." Ever heard that one?
Ever seen what a 3rd grade education looked like back then? The church says "3rd Grade education " because it conjures up in most American minds the image of an 8 year old. Yeah- I don't know too many 8 year olds who are that smart. Know plenty of "Uneducated " 20 year olds who are much smarter than I will ever be. ( Which admittedly doesn't necessarily require all that much...low bar to clear I suppose.)
Wow 🤩 thank you 🙏
Outstanding!
It’s beyond dispute at this point. Those who think otherwise are simply in denial..
I've never heard of archaeological evidence supporting the book of Mormon.
The things you say, by themselves demonstrate little to support the book of Mormon.
You didn't know Joseph Smith personally so you cannot possibly know what he was capable of and how he went about doing it.
This book doesn't seem authentic
So are you saying, because we don't know Jesus personally, that we cannot know him?
After leaving the mormon church I usually try to ignore stuff like this but this is just straight up propaganda. Now where in this videos does it cite realiable sources for the arguements made but it also ignores actually historical facts pretaining the life of Joesph Smith and the creation of the book of mormon.
While there are many points I can make that about the decieving character that Joesph Smith was I think that one of the biggest flaws in your arguement was that Joesph Smith somehow came up with all this in a short amount of time so he must be a genius who spoke with god.
The problem is that Smith didn't make any of this up. He simply copied it from another book called the View of the Hebrews by Ethan Smith that was published in 1823. Before the book of mormon was published. The book of mormon is basically of clone of this book with some words taken directly from it. Such as "Wo, wo to this city, this temple, and this people!" (View of the hebrews pg. 20)
This fact alone reveals what a fraud Joesph was to the people of followed him. If you want to see this for yourself you can read the book here.
olivercowdery.com/texts/ethn1823.htm
And the ces letter allows brings up many factually arguments against the book of mormon which you can read here.
cesletter.org/CES-Letter.pdf
Most videos don't usually cite sources in the same way that an academic paper would. However, notice that in the description it says: "To learn more about the various topics in this video check out the references here:"
bookofmormoncentral.org/blog/watch-evidence-of-the-book-of-mormon-internal-complexity
If you click on the link, you will find a sampling of references which support the video's claims (many more references could be cited). I doubt that, having left The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, you will find these sources to be "reliable." But the sources are there, many of them written by scholars with legitimate degrees from credible universities.
The video doesn't "ignore" facts pertaining to Joseph Smith's life. It just doesn't address them here. There are other videos from Book of Mormon Central that address the creation of the Book of Mormon:
bookofmormoncentral.org/blog/watch-book-of-mormon-translation-evidence
There are also articles which address the life of Joseph Smith:
knowhy.bookofmormoncentral.org/content/how-can-we-know-what-to-believe-about-joseph-smiths-personal-character
knowhy.bookofmormoncentral.org/content/why-would-god-choose-an-uneducated-man-to-translate-the-book-of-mormon
Thanks for leaving. We would have eventually thrown you out.
@@johnlee1352 your a pathetic anti Christian!
Haters don't kno de Wei. I wish I could donate 1,000,000.
read the original 1832 book of Mormon and todays book and you will see the difference.
The Book of Mormon, is famously said to be one of those books people have an opinion of even without having read it.
That’s true
@@Irvingdector
that is because the ridicuI0us nature 0f m0rm0nism precedes it wherever it g0es
and every0ne kn0ws it was invented by a kn0wn charIatan
the detaiIs 0nIy make it Iess beIievabIe
it is s0 far fetched it`s n0t surprising he was assasinated
I've read it cover to cover many times, and I don't think it's true.
@@LockeDemosthenes2 I know it's true and I've read it cover to cover multiple times and I'm reading a replica of the 1830 and it is completely true.
@@elderinisrael My pet Cureloms and Cumoms agree with you. Please tell me that you have a barge tightener, I need to make it tight, like unto a dish for underwater exploration.
But in all seriousness -- does it bother you that they changed it so many times, even the 1830 versions? Or does it bother you that he used supernatural techniques, witchcraft, to obtain the book for treasure?
An 18 year old un-educated boy wouldn’t be able to “make up” the Book of Mormon. He was able to translate it solely because of God
There's so much covered in this short video. Very well done, The Book of Mormon is so rich and beautiful. It makes me really grateful for everything all these prophets have done and what God has done for us to have this scripture to stand beside the Bible exactly in the times when the world would need it as another witness
37 years ago when I was 15 I read and prayed to ask God if the Book of Mormon is true. I felt the Holy Ghost testify to me with great power that this record is true and that I should live this gospel. The Spirit I felt at that you age was the most amazing and wonderful event of my life. It is super cool to see this video and these evidences but I know from God that this record is true. I challenge all to read the Book of Mormon and let God testify to them of its truthfulness.
Even in New Testament times, people didn’t believe the divinity of Jesus as the Messiah. Some people thought the things he said were very strange (or complete blasphemy). In John 6 He said that He was the bread from heaven, “the bread that I give is my flesh… whoso eateth of my flesh and drinketh of my blood hath eternal life” and many stopped following him afterward. He even asked them “doth this offend you?” Reasoning only in your mind and not with your heart and spirit will not allow truth to enter. It takes an open mind and heart.
What is important to me is "is it of God or not?" If it is not, then who cares about all this other stuff?
I guess there are a mulititude of things going on, eg how did Jesus get up to Heaven without back pack jet propulsion unit, or why did he have the wounds in his hands and feet , when we speak of a perfect resurrected Body, or even wine making, when many back then were alcoholics at a wedding, Ive heard even that using your Son as a sacrifice was the most disgusting thing one could do, not my words but Richard Dawkins. I even recall a Doco recently on NDE when this particular person went to paradise , came back and recounted the experiance, he said that the ones there were of the same body an blood of christ, I guess thats true because we all have the spirit of christ in us, having taken the emblems here on earth to signify his people thru thr ordinance.
It'd be great to have spanish subtitles (and other languages) to share this with my family in South America. Keep doing stuff like this please! 🔥🔥🔥
You guys are awesome!! Thank you for taking the time out of your life to defend such miraculous work. I wish I was as articulate as you guys when defending this gospel. Great job!!!
The Book of Mormon is the word of God, by it's fruit it has proven it's veracity!
Fawn Brodie called Joseph Smith "A MYTHMAKER of prodigious talent". That is hardly a compliment?
His early critics call him a blockhead and an idiot. His later critics called him prodigios and a genius. There in lies the compliment.
@@caseykaelin2352 Still don't hear a compliment?
Of all that content and you fixate upon what a critic THINKS of Joseph Smith. The point there was that the critics are still critics but now have to change their point of attack. There is enough evidence here for you to stop listening to the critics and start asking the Lord. It's your own journey enjoy.
Why would gods true church have such a sketchy history from the get go. Why would he withold the priesthood from children of a different tone of skin, but impress upon his prophet to change that when civil rights issues were becoming addressed heavily in the 70s. You'd think the true church would be ahead of it's time in setting the example and being the standard of truth. Does polygamy devalue women? Why do the majority of members feel weird and awkward in the temple instead of comforted and enlightened lmao.
@OKLAHOMAWILD EDC - I can't think of a religion that doesn't have a sketchy history from the get go. The Israelites adopted the worship of El and YHWH from pagan religion(s). That is the foundation of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam.
I agree with everything here but I would like to add that it has the power to change peoples lives for the better. On my mission I saw people that gave up drugs, drinking, immorality, and turn from their former life to turn towards Christ and that is truly amazing.
Oops, I forgot to mention how much I LOVED this video. Thank you so much for making it. It is amazing, the best yet, and I look forward to more.
When I first read the Book Of Mormon I remember it took me about as long to read it as it took the Prophet a Joseph Smith to translate it!!!!!!!!!! I remember that the missionaries that taught me the Gospel gave me the Book Of Mormon in February and I finished it in April and on April 16th I was baptized and joined the the Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter Day Saints!!!!!!! And even though I'm inactive my personal testimony of the Book Of Mormon and the Church and the Lord Jesus Christ as my Savior is still the same!!!!!!!!!!! I encourage all nonmembers to please Read the Book Of Mormon along with the Bible plus pray 🙏 along and at the same time and learn from the missionaries because they do speak the truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Remember that the truth will set you free and the Book Of Mormon contains the truth and the Gospel of Jesus Christ!!!!!!! So please open your spirit your heart and your mind so that you'll learn through the Spirit of the Holy Spirit!!!!!!! This is my personal testimony that I know that the Book Of Mormon is true and that the Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter Day Saints is the true Church on the Earth 🌎🌍🌏 today!!!!!!!!!!!!! The missionaries know the truth and will speak it to you!!!!!!!!!!! Amen!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for sharing your personal story, God is amazing and His scriptures are powerful!
Its crazy how the missionaries back in the day went to spread the gospel yet when it came to the blacks getting their covenanted rights, seems to be selective
Words of the Apostle Paul are nearly or exactly quoted supposedly
long before St. Paul’s birth in the Old Testament portion of the Book of
Mormon: “steadfast and immovable, always abounding in good works” (Mosiah
5:15; 3:21/I Cor. 15:58); “mortal shall put on immortality” (Enos 27;46;
I Cor.15:53); “the nurture and admonition of the Lord” (Enos 1; l/Eph.
6:4).55
Great job on the video! I still think it's crazy people refuse to read the book for themselves and instead resort to trying to find faults with it or those that were involved in the translation. Love this book, love the whole Bible, and love the continuing revelation that Christ bestows upon all of his followers who are of an open heart and a willing mind.
Neil home:how do you love the bible if LDS teaching supersedes the bible. the LDS jesus was once a man like you and me (KING FOLLET DISCOURSE)and PROGRESSED to Godhood(he wasnt always God) the BIBLICAL jesus is God ETERNALLY ,PAST ,PRESENT AND FUTURE.There was NEVER a time that jesus wasnt God....
I read it. Best book ever. Now I know the next time someone gives me anything to do with religion, to just burn it in my backyard
@@Pugkin5405lol. What the?!
@@sevensickszero6112interesting take. Have you read the Book of Mormon: Another Testament of Jesus Christ from cover to cover without any biases or negativity in your mind?
@@dcarts5616 Hi?
I’ve been an inactive church member for almost 5 years because I’ve questioned so much about the church and I have been searching for evidence like this for a very long time! I want to believe so badly that The Church is true, and these videos have got me leaning more towards the possibility that it is! They make so much sense! Thank you so much for making these! Please continue making them because the world needs this kind of education more than ever! God Bless!💜
Good luck in your quest. I thought of suggesting a couple of sources that might help you, however I'm being restrained from doing so knowing you are being guided at your own pace of wanting to know.
You don't need to believe the church is true. Just get a testimony of the BoM. They are separate things, even though some would believe you to think otherwise. I honor and hold it to be a true book, but I no longer subscribe to the church, and many of its cultural practices and judgements. God is the God of the Whole Earth and he has no limits. He reveals as he wills and to whom and whatever people He wants. Don't box God. Circumscribe all truth into one great whole.
Sorry Freemasonry, satanic symbolism and so forth doesn't convince me
I wish you well in your gospel journey! I would give one piece of advice. Facts, evidence, science, none of those things are capable of proving truth beyond a shadow of a doubt, so we need faith or belief to fill in the gaps. That goes for any religion or belief system. I've found that choosing to believe from the very start, can make the answers come to a lot easier. Sort of like building a house. First, you've got to build your framework of faith, everything that's necessary, and then you can add little facts and answers to questions like insulation, carpets, furniture, stuff that makes the house easier to live in, and makes you want to stay living in it more. Sorry if that was kind of a silly analogy but it's that best one I could come up with.
My dear friend, believe whatever makes you happy. But the book was plagiarized, there's no archeological evidence, Joseph was a fraud that married children, Brigham Young endorsed racism and the church acts like a corporation l
The "complexity" of the BOM speaks to the plagiarism of it, especially the plagiarism of the KJV of the book of Isaiah (including the italics) placed by the original translator's, which show's the illiteracy of Joseph Smith. P/S Joe wasn't an illiterate Farmer, he was a convicted glass looker (see 1826, Banbridge county court records) plus western new york, wasn't the frontier!!! Stop misrepresenting historical fact's, (but I guess that's what Mormons do best) this video of "evidences" is ridiculously, hilarious!!!! Kwaku, do yourself a favor and stop humiliating yourself by trying to defend what is indefensible
The New Testament plagiarizes Isaiah as well
Is Kwaku El, like Jor-El and Kal-El, from Krypton?
It always gets me how these so called evangelicals are the most rude, vile, twisted commenters on all these type articles. They claim if you don't believe what they believe you are going to hell. Yet, hell seems to be exactly what I get from there comments about their religion. Jesus Christ never preached in the manner these people do. They say do not trust in the Holy Ghost, only the bible. Yet, they all have different interpretations of what the Bible says. The Latter-Day Saints say to read The Book of Mormon yourself and pray about it, and ask God if it's true. In contrast, these vile so called Christian commenters say, you don't need to pray, just believe us. If people like Robert Swenson and others like him are representative of what they think a Christian is, I don't want to be one.
KevlarX2 Haha yeah. If these so called “Christian” guys are going to heaven, then I’d rather be in hell with the people who AREN’T yelling and gnashing their teeth at others.
@KevlarX2 - Very well said.
@Robert Swenson Thats just a claim or a hypothesis not a fact.
@Robert Swenson No, that's not what I was saying. Christ visited the Americas. And we aren't Mormon. Its the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. We believe in Christ, the same Christ in the Bible. The Book of Mormon is another proof of Christ. The stick of Joseph and the Stick of Judah. The Book of Mormon fulfills Prophecy.
@Robert Swenson okay, first off it was to correct minor grammatical errors, along with adding chapters, chapter summary's.
For those who say the Book of Mormon is NOT from a divine source, to what source could you ascribe the Book of Mormon? This video lists many of the arguments that must be overcome in order to disprove the Origin of the Book of Mormon as anything other than from divine source. So, If someone wants to disprove the Book of Mormon They would have to disprove these evidences AND THEN, He or She must find evidences in favor of a different Origin.
If you cannot do these TWO things (1. Disprove the BoM's divine source, and 2. Prove a different source), then YOU MUST accept the DIVINE SOURCE as the most probable source. If I could quote Sherlock Holmes, "Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth."
If you need suggestions for other options to explore AFTER you have somehow disproved evidences sited in this video; let me make some suggestions for OTHER ORIGINS below, and explain few of the many challenges you have to overcome for each.
1. Joseph Smith was A GENIUS.
- Why did he pretend it was true?
- Why did he include thing like cement buildings, when the experts at the time believed that cement buildings were not ever built by precolonial Americans?
- Why did his Genius expertise Fail in other areas of life? (Literacy- couldn't write his own letters. Politically- offended many leaders, and failed campaigns. Financially- obviously risky investments that failed, bankrupted banks...)
- What was his motivation for writing it?
- Power/Popularity? Then- What drove him to make up religious beliefs that HE knew would be offensive. (anti-slavery, polygamy, law of consecration, divine potential of mankind...)
- Money? Then- Why did he struggle with poverty for years, when so many followers would have given up their wealth if he simply requested it?
- To set up Polygamy? Then- Why did he write in the book of Jacob that it is an abomination with the rare exception when the Lord commands otherwise?
2. DEMONIC forces influenced Joseph Smith write the book and gave him the ability to do this.
- Why is the message of the Book of Mormon, and the teachings of the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, centered around Jesus Christ, the Family, and doing good to all mankind?
- Why choose a christian, farm-boy, without education nor a highly influential position?
3. SOMEONE ELSE wrote the Book of Mormon and had Joseph Smith convince people of its divinity and start a church.
- Why did another person take the effort to write the Book to have Joseph Smith take all the credit for it?
- How did that person write the Book with all its evidences?
- Why choose a christian, farm-boy, without education nor a highly influential position?
- How did Joseph Smith receive these instructions/writings while still convincing others that He wrote them, along with the witnesses of the Book of Mormon?
4. ALIENS brainwashed Joseph Smith.
- I have actually heard an anti-mormon say this one before. All I have to say is... Really???
5. Joseph Smith is actually from the FUTURE and brought the Book of Mormon back with him.
- Again...Really???
Is there any other origin possibility that I missed?
@@enigmaticvaran6597 you would think that such a big, collaborated effort, by Oliver Cowdery, David Whitmer, Martin Harris, the Page family, other members of the Whitmer family, members of Joseph Smith's immediate family, including spouses/parents/siblings....you would think that ONE OF THEM would have tried to expose it. Martin Harris' wife was surely a sceptic, pressuring Martin Harris to turn over the translated portion of the Book of Lehi. Many looked at Joseph very skeptically. But those in his innermost circles, those involved in the translation process, never once said a word trying to expose the work as false.
@@Ether-pb5gb Because they were co- conspirators.
Let's look at #2 in your list. Satan works by deception. What is more deceptive, to offer someone a wooden nickel, or to give them a shiny coin that looks just like a nickel? What is more deceptive: to appear as a wild, rebellious, and wholly corrupt angel, or to appear as a good angel of mercy, but introduce subtle theories that misguide souls and lead them down a false path? Clearly, the latter is far more deceptive. You must vastly underestimate the power and ingenuity of evil angels, if you think they will appear with horns and pitchforks.
The Catholic Church is considered to be a leading representative of Christianity, by many millions. Think of her hospitals, the sacrifices and outward piety of her devotees, the great works of art adorning her halls, the work of the orders of charity, etc. Surely this must prove her to be divine? Not at all. How easily we are fooled by outward show.
That same church teaches that she has the authority to change God's law. She teaches that God burns the wicked forever in an eternally burning hell fire. She teaches that heretics should be punished by the state if they will not convert. She teaches that man can do works of supererogation (works beyond what God requires that can act as a store of goodness). She teaches that real faith is belief in the sacraments, and that salvation only comes through the ministration of her priesthood. She teaches that the common man cannot be trusted with the Bible, except it be interpreted for them by the priests. She teaches that Christ took a super-pure humanity that none of us have, and therefore, we cannot truly follow Him. And many, many other heresies that lead away from Christ, are all taught by her.
While it is nicer to be around people who are trying to do good, in the end, only those whose faith is that of Jesus Christ himself, and who keep the commandments of God as He intended them to be kept, will be safe. The rest will all follow the passions of their hearts, as their own nature, and Satan's influences work upon them. There are terrible times ahead that will lay bare all the hypocrisy that masks as true religion.
Having said all that, I have met some very wonderful people who come from the Mormon church or background, and I hope that their faith is sincere, and that in spite of any errors that they are surrounded with, they are, "by nature" following the truth because God has set the love of it in their hearts. But there is no stopping point for those who want to "follow the Lamb wherever He goes..." We cannot rest on a tradition and take pride in it...that is not resting in God and building on His foundation.
Look up and read “View of the Hebrews” by Ethan Smith
@@PracticaPropheticaI’ve truly had a powerful spiritual witness that this is the restored gospel. If you want, I can share more with you :)
If there is one true church then Satan owns all others. If Satan owns all others that means he will attack the true church persecute them. The church he attacks is the church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints. So members of the church don't get angry about these comments against our church and try to .
Any lie is always complex it doesn't make it true....
Haha yeah. You could argue the same with the new testament.
The more complex a lie is, the easier it is to expose. If The Book of Mormon was a lie, it would have been exposed as such, the church would have fallen a long time ago.
@@elderinisrael The lie WAS a long time ago , it Fell back then.
"Intertextual relationships" not that difficult when ONE author writes the book........
Actually repeated stylometric analysis of the Book of Mormon consistently favors the idea that each book of the Book of Mormon was written by a separate author, each with their own writing style.
yeah I was thinking that too, haha, though it might be difficult to state something verbatim after going over a bunch of other stuff and not looking back at it, but they should have explained the idea with that one a little better
"The intricate structure and detailed complexity of The Book of Mormon seem far better explained as the work of several ancient writers using various written sources over the space of centuries than exploding suddenly from the mind of a barely educated manual laborer on the American frontier." -- Daniel Peterson
DrTerminus “The horses in the Book of Mormon could probably be tapirs or something.”- Daniel Peterson
Oh Daniel Petersen, Mormon apologist who said there was no suppression of the first vision accounts, completely denying the fact that Joseph Fielding Smith tore out the part of the first vision account from Joseph Smith's diary, hiding it away in a safe, only realizing it once word got out?
Remember Oliver helped and he was a school teacher
@@lynnanderson7146ho was a scribe prior to when Joseph met Oliver? Also, Oliver never took credit for the BoM nor did he deny how he swore it came about, even as one who left the church.
@@stelladavis7832did the church hide it or did a person lock it away for another purpose? We still had many other accounts from Joseph or from an interviewer of Joseph about the first vision. Joseph knew he was being quoted and interviewed, you think he didn’t know that the record of what he said and wrote about the first vision in each instance wouldn’t get out? You’re disingenuous if you think he didn’t describe what happened accurately in each account, even the one that JFS “hid” from us. I love the Joseph Smith Papers, they deflate many a grand accusation and argument. I love that I can read them whenever I want to.
The Book is blue, and the Book is true. Hurrah for Zion!
A great man will know the truth when he realizes the evidence but the greatest of all men know the truth by faith and prayer. The BOM isn't true because RUclips's make videos and scholars workout fine details, the BOM is true because it is. Joseph Smith is a true prophet. The truth doesn't stop being the truth just because people don't believe it. Critics will be humbled but it will be okay, even those who fight nonsensically against the church will be welcomed with smiles and charity and peace.
J McGlynn there are many cases in history in which a person is slandered and there are rumors and lies spread to turn the public away from them. Some of the thing you have heard about Joseph may be true, some may not. But Joseph was human. He was not perfect.
Regardless of Joseph’s standing, or even the validity of the book he translated, the Book of Mormon teaches nothing but goodness. People read Harry Potter because it’s entertaining, but also because it has good morals. The characters learn to choose light, and it uplifts those who read it. It’s not gospel, but that’s no reason to slander it and claim that it’s of the devil. The same should be true for the Book of Mormon. Why would someone with malicious intent create a book with no ill will towards anyone?
To build on what you said, well your point is a higher spiritual point, but to build on the unimpeachable logic which I am about to give that Joseph Smith is a prophet of God, I point to the first ever fulfillment of Revelation 12. (see LDS Revelation 12 Utube video)
Joseph Smith could not have chosen to be born 27 years before the first ever fulfillment of Revelation 12. Joseph Smith simply did not know Revelation 12 was being fulfilled during Rosh Hashanah blowing of the Shofar representing new word from God when Maroni gave him the gold plates. Joseph Smith could not have thought at age 13 that I am going to orchestrate events and stories to harmonize with the first ever Revelation 12 event.
When you watch the video I suggested you will see that God organized the planets and stars to show us that Joseph Smith is His prophet, and that the Book of Mormon is true. Of course you can put this unimpeachable proof in front of a person and they will still reason it away in their own mind. These same people find a way to believe idols are somehow gods, one wokeism is somehow morally superior to God's commandments.
I recently finished the Book of Mormon again this year. But this time I was studying it more thoroughly. I read and marked a lot of fascinating things that I never saw before.
I was nearing the end when I followed a footnote that led me to John 10:20-21
(Think of Joseph Smith in these verses.) "And many of them said, He hath a devil, and is mad; why hear ye him? Others said, These are not the words of him that hath a devil. Can a devil open the eyes of the blind?"
The "EYES OF THE BLIND." Does the Book of Mormon open one's eyes? Yes! Plainly.
I was not expecting the Bible to tell me the Book of Mormon was true.
So now I'm in the middle of reading the New Testament and may I add, I'm surprised on how Mormon this book is!
Lucifer’s Apron
When Lucifer appears in the Mormon temple ceremony he is wearing an apron. When Adam asks him about it Lucifer boldly replies: “It is an emblem of my power and Priesthoods” (25:15). So, there is no ambiguity here-the apron has nothing to do with God; it is an emblem of Satan’s power and priesthoods. A few minutes later, when they hear God coming, Lucifer tells Adam and Eve to make themselves aprons and hide (25:45).
Adam replies, “Come, let us hide,” and at that point in the ceremony everyone is told to put on their aprons. And they do. So, for the rest of the ritual, on top of their temple undergarments with the masonic-type markings, and on top of their white temple clothes, temple patrons wear a dark green apron-in obedience to Lucifer and symbolizing his power and priesthoods.
This stands in stark contrast to what happens in the Bible: God removes the fig-leaf coverings that Adam and Eve make and replaces them with animal skins He provides. This foreshadows and represents the covering for sins provided by Jesus when he was slain on the cross as the Lamb of God (see John 1:29; Hebrews 9:22).
Will We Listen to Lucifer or Jesus?
Lucifer says, “Make you aprons.” In effect, do some of it yourself-it’s the only way to preserve some semblance of pride, dignity, and self-respect, and to gain for yourself what you need. That is quite consistent with the instructions every Latter-day Saint is given before going through the temple endowment ceremony.
Your Endowment is, to receive all those ordinances in the House of the Lord, which are necessary for you, to enable you to walk back to the presence of the Father, passing the angels who stand as sentinels, being enabled to give them the key words, the signs and the tokens, pertaining to the Holy Priesthood, and thus gain your eternal exaltation. (7:05)
Jesus said, “It is finished” (John 19:30). In effect, “I’ve done it for you, all of it. Now are you willing to humble yourself enough to simply take it?”
As long as you are trying to contribute anything of your own to merit God’s provision of eternal life in His presence, you are rejecting the gift of Jesus Christ’s finished work on your behalf.
Maybe the reason your life and relationships are not all you know they should and could be is because you’re still spiritually tied to Lucifer’s apron strings. When you’re ready to be free here’s what you do. Call out in humility to Jesus, tell him you’re sorry for trying to contribute to your own worthiness and that you accept God’s forgiveness, perfection and eternal life as free gifts. When you do Jesus will cut your spiritual ties to Lucifer forever.
Jesus said: "Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest” (Matt. 11:28). (Nowhere in the Scriptures does Jesus say anything about an apron…or grips…or signs and tokens.) You can trust Jesus.
The church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is indeed the everlasting gospel as stated in the book of 'Revelation' below
Revelation 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, Revelation
@@janicebaice6870 The gospel is “everlasting” in that is an eternally unchanging message. False doctrines come and go, and new teachings are like wind and waves that toss the unsuspecting every which way (Ephesians 4:14). Especially chaotic and dangerous is the doctrine of the Antichrist and his false prophet in Revelation 13. Countering the lies and false teaching of the beast is the everlasting gospel in Revelation 14. The message of salvation through faith in Christ is eternal truth; it is as solid and unchanging as God Himself, and those who believe the gospel will reap everlasting benefits.
The CJCLDS has a false gospel. They ridicule Jesus Christ and claim he is the brother of Lucifer. The Bible calls this blasphemy. The brother of Lucifer never died on a cross.
Jesus said your sins would not be forgiven if you did not believe He was God.
John 8:19 So they were saying to Him, “Where is Your Father?” Jesus answered, “You know neither Me nor My Father; if you knew Me, you would know My Father also.”
24 Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe that I am He, you will die in your sins.”
It should have led you to this instead...
Galatians 1:8, ESV: "But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the ONE we preached to you, let him be accursed."
If you truly feel that your false religion can stand up on its own, watch the Bible vs. Joseph Smith. (Amazon prime)
I dare you...
The Bible is the only authority that stands. The BOM contradicts it in every way. You cannot become a god. You cannot save yourselves from your sin and you cannot just throw out parts of God's Revelation that don't suit your doctrines.
But the Bible also says that anyone tries to change the gospel, even an angel, that it is from the devil. One hand you say the Bible is corrupt and not true gospel but on the other hand you quote it when it supports your opinion.
This is very well done. I really like the fact that critics were also addressed, as this is just what is needed in this day and age. Those critical of the Boof of Mormon really need to analyze why. More often it is their own rejection of Mormonism rather than the Book of Mormon itself. I know the Book of Mormon to be the word of God, just as Joseph Smith claimed it was.
Thanks Anna, this is a wonderful comment. The Book of Mormon has been such a blessing in my life.
Robert Swenson - so how much of the Book of Mormon have you read Robert? I read it everyday with the Bible and it enriches my life. I feel the Holy Spirit in every page. The Bible even speaks of it coming forth. When you come to the Lord with full purpose of heart, and a desire to serve Him, He can and will guide you. But you can’t ask about the truth of a book you have not read. I invite you to make this a more diligent effort on your part. It is blessing millions of people all over the world. It cold be you. Think about it. Read it. God bless you in your search.
The Bible plainly states that the gospel, with its inclusion of Gentiles, was not fully revealed until after Christ's death.
Eph. 3:3-7 Paul writes "by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words, whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ) which in other ages was not made knownunto the sons of men as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit; that the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel: whereof I was made a minister ...... (See also Col. 1:26; 1 Peter 1: 1-12; Romans 16:25-26)
However, the Book of Mormon maintains that this knowledge was had in 545 B.C.
2 Nephi 25:19 "For according to the words of the prophets, the Messiah cometh... his name shall be Jesus Christ, the Son of God. ... (v.23) For we labor... to persuade... our brethren, to believe in Christ, and to be reconciled to God; for we know that it is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do.
2 Nephi 26:12 "And as I spake concerning the convincing of the Jews, that Jesus in the very Christ, it must needs be that the Gentiles be convinced also that Jesus is the Christ, the Eternal God;"
2 Nephi 30:2 "For behold, I say unto you that as many of the Gentiles as will repent are the covenant people of the Lord; and as many of the Jews as will not repent shall be cast off,"
2 Nephi 31:17 "For the gate by which ye should enter is repentance and baptism by water; and then cometh a remission of your sins by fire and the Holy Ghost."
During Jesus' ministry He spoke of His church as something in the future.
Matthew 16:18 "And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it."
After Christ's resurrection and the day of Pentecost we read "And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved." (Acts 2:47)
However, the Book of Mormon claims the Christian church was established as early as 147 B.C.
Mosiah 18:17 "And they were called the church of God, or the church of Christ, from that time forward."
The Bible says believers were first called Christians after Paul's ministry in Antioch.
Acts 11:26 "And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch."
However, the Book of Mormon claims people were known by this title as early as 73 B.C.
Alma 46:15 "...yea, all those who were true believes in Christ took upon them, gladly, the name of Christ, or Christians as they were called, because of their belief in Christ who should come."
The Holy Ghost was bestowed on the Christians at the time of Pentecost.
Luke 24:49 "And, behold, I send the promise of my Father unto you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high."
Acts 2:1-4 "And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. ... And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost,..."
Yet the Book of Mormon claims that people received the gift of the Holy Ghost as early as 545 B.C.
2 Nephi 31:12-13 "...the voice of the Son came unto me, saying: He that is baptized in my name, to him will the Father give the Holy Ghost, like unto me... Wherefore, my beloved brethren,... by following your Lord and your Savior down into the water, according to his word, behold, then shall ye receive the Holy Ghost; yea, then cometh the baptism of fire and of the Holy Ghost;..."
Although Isaiah had many prophecies of Christ, and the Jews, as a chosen people, could have done the work the apostles did, had they understood the promises of God, there is no justification for 2 Nephi 31, if it is indeed supposedly written in the time period you state.
The day of Pentecost could not come, except Christ was sacrificed first. It was the revelation of the love of God, vs. the malice of Satan, revealed at the cross, that prepared and united the disciples to make them agents of the baptism of the Holy Spirit. Since Christ did not die in 545 BC, Pentecost could not happen then.
Consider also the prophecy of Psalm 68:18 "You have ascended on high, you have led captivity captive: you have received gifts for men; yea, for the rebellious also, that the Lord God might dwell among them." First was to come Christ's ascension, taking some resurrected souls with him (the captivity of the grave), and then would come the "gifts for men" in the outpouring of the Holy Spirit. Clearly, then, no death and resurrection of Christ = no outpouring of the Holy Spirit in Pentecostal power.
Ani-mormons are real quiet on this one
Jaw drop. That was one impressive video. Thank you for making this! Incredible!
seek the truth and the truth will sent you free
Hey cade isnt it ironic I seen this. We attended the same ward now lol
Why do people erroneously state that JS was uneducated ?? Do some self dilligent research and you will discover that one of his parents was in fact ( documented) a school teacher. Pardon the pun, but leave no stone unturned in your quest to seek out the truth for yourself...
Wonderful compilation, WOW - I thought my "Echoes and Evidences" book was detailed. Good job.
Joseph's. Myth..... please get out of this cult ... blasphemous and damned theology
The Book of Mormon is nuts. I was the most vehement anti-Mormon on this planet. I was addicted to exmormon content, I read book after book "exposing" the church, and I believed every bit of it, that Gordon B. Hinckley was gay, that Joseph Smith r-ped a 14 year old, everything. But then I actually opened the Book of Mormon and started reading and everything changed like that. That book has the strangest effect on a person.
Wow! The Book of Mormon definitely speaks for itself.
Thanks for sharing that, By the way what is the name of the song, playing behind?
I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints from the Philippines. Your video presentation is excellent. May I know what software you are using?
I really don't know if the book of mormon is true or not but this video could help well done
All I ever hear is it is true. TRUE TRUE TRUE. I know it's true, mom said it was true pray it to be true. It has to be true. It must be true. TRUE TRUE TRUE. How come we don't think of the Bible in this true, true true way??? Because you don't have to be mind controlled to believe in the Bible. If the Mormon church can get you to call The BOM true. Then they can get you to believe everything they throw at you...Good luck with explaining to our Lord how you are on the way to become a god.....
Hhahahahahahaha *REALISTIC BATTLES* hahaha
2 million person war, In 2500BC in America at the hill camorah.
They used horses, chariots and steel swords 😂
But there is NO EVIDENCE LEFT AT ALL
The world population was 72 million in 2500BC
3% of the worlds population died at that fight? But with NO REMAINS AT ALL LEFT?
Not a road, not a coin, not any DNA 🤣🤣🤣
I see in 11 months there has no attempt at proving anything!!! Continuing to wait!
So you've got physical historical evidence?
Yeah. The Book of Mormon is its own proof.
NO ONE in over 200 years has been able to disprove it as Sacred Scripture.
Please also watch
the videos 'the Bible Vs that the Book of Mormon', and 'Joseph Smith Vs the Bible'.
The book of Mormon is in itself a testimony against the ultimate authority of the Holy Bible as God's complete and finished revelation to all mankind through all the ages.
The Bible simply isn't enough for them, they in fact have three other sacred scriptures, also written by, (perhaps unsurprising,) Joseph Smith.
Please be aware as you veiw this video that this man and other Mormons place the book of Mormon's reliability and therefore value ABOVE that of the Bible, always defending Joseph and trying to convince everyone they should his book.
Joseph Smith boasted that his book of Mormon was the most correct book on earth, and that a man could become closer to God by keeping it's precepts than any other book, (including the Bible).
He taught his followers that many plain and precious truths had been removed from the Bible, even the true gospel, all of which he claimed he had restored at God's behest, Mormons believe this, effectively placing their trust in Joseph Smith above that of the Bible itself.
Mormonism's abiding distrust of the Holy Bible's reliability is reflected in that church's 8th Article of faith, 'we believe that the Bible is the word of God as far as it is translated correctly.
While arranging the linguistic deck chairs on the Titanic of the book of Mormon, no trace of a great and advanced JEWISH civilization can be found.
A truly remarkable fact as Joseph Smith claimed that it stretched 'from coast to coast,' it's buildings 'covering the land,' and it peoples 'numerous almost as the sands of the sea',( that's millions).
It is archeologicaly impossible for any such civilization to vanish. After around 180 years even the LDS church itself can only speculate the whereabouts of the book of Mormon land.
The gentlemen in this video has an absolutely total trust and faith in everything Joseph Smith wrote and taught, and has obediently dedicated his life to him and the church he founded.
This is authentic Mormonism, i.e., if Joseph Smith or his church said it, then it's from God, we believe it, ( sadly the unmistakable seal of a cult.)
Read the Bible and trust it.
Kind regards to all, especially dear Mormon folk.
You need to look into the fonoprint tests of the book and am how they match up with other great books like the Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter. It shows that no two books within the Book of Mormon could’ve possibly been written by the same people. And due to the names found within, we see many different cultures which are distinct, while Tolkien’s LOTR shows multiple races and tons of names but all of the names are connected somehow - thus they were created by the same author.
yeah, anything in this video could turn into a hole video on its own
As you study the book of Mormon and the truths found there, it becomes clear that The great lakes area holds so many evidences of the books truth and validation. Now DNA found in the ancestors of the heartland Indians, Hebrew and reformed Egyptian found in native artifacts and affirmed by nonLDS scholarship. Truly the Lord has caused evedence to come forth out of the ground, and it turns out that the native peoples our ancestors treated so badly have the addional knowledge we seek just as Joseph sent the first misionaries to the North American Indians they hold the some of the keys to this sacred books past.
This is a great video! :) Well done!
Thank HEAVENLY FATHER & HEAVENLY MOTHER Brother KAKU, your helps people know that, the BOOK Of MORMON is true.
Translated by looking at a stone in a hat.
God speaks to his children in ways they understand. Back then, that sort of thing was perfectly normal. Times change, and our perspectives with them.
@@mollyr.goates8097 good one. 😂
@@mollyr.goates8097 when has it been perfectly normal to stick your face in a hat that has a rock inside? O.o
@1:33 " realistic battles"......i beg to differ, the BOM mentions "swords of steel" roughly a thousand years too early in america. Steel was brought to america in 1492 with the europeans.......the BOM "history" closes in 421 AD according to the "prophet" joseph smiths OWN dating of the BOM. Joseph smith would've been better off not dating his " most correct book in the world"(that has been corrected around 3900 times)......kwaku NEVER addresses my comments on his videos , maybe he's busy looking for archeological evidence for steel swords in america pre 1492? P.s. The bible and the true jesus (God the son) is all you need for salvation..."the late war"...oooops. I meant the BOM is just a made up story probably borrowing from " the late war" a school book promoted in NY in josephs youth and other books availavle to joseph with similiar story lines like the" view of the hebrews", "manuscript found"....etc...
Amen brotha
Theres steel in the bible, and the BOM was meant to reference and mirror the bible.
Well done!
Coming up with 588 pages worth of material in less than 3 months? Yes, that would have been impressive. But simply reading from a finished manuscript, a bit at a time, from pages hidden inside a large hat, taking breaks now and then to replenish the hat with the next pages to read? Instantly not as impressive. The angel story alone allowed for 4 years to conjure up the tale of the Nephites and Lamanires. Of course you’d have to come up with a way to not have anyone see your manuscript pages. Hmm, seems Joseph already did that with convincing everone they shouldny look upon the plates lest they surely would die. If the plates could successfully remain covered from all eyes but Joseph’s, there’s no better place to keep the pages. The magician allows for the card initially pulled from the deck to be seen by the audience. After that, he fully controls what is seen by spectators. In this facet I’d agree Joseph was brilliant. The challenge for the magician is to leave everyone feeling there’s only one explanation for what they’ve witnessed impressing them into believing. An opportunity was surely missed with the misplaced/lost/stolen 116 pages Joseph had transcribed. Rather than try to perform the same trick twice he looked for a loophole. I picture him sweating with the thought of how close he came to being figured out at that time.
What a wonderful presentation! The Book of Mormon is a powerful witness of Jesus Christ. I know it is of God.
DrTerminus - with all do respect, but how? 😊
Well... It's plagiarized from the Bible, so I guess it is from "God". Whatever the Bible says it's "God".
None of this is evidence. It simply shows Joseph Smith was a very gifted story teller and had a good understanding of the Bible. You even admitted The Book Of Mormon is similar to fantasy novels like The Lord of the Rings.
No one actually saw these golden tablets and even if they did, Joseph was the only one who could translate them. Couldn’t it be possible that Joseph Smith came up with the Book of Mormon for years before he “transcribed” these tablets?
And you’re saying the prophecy of Jesus Christ is evidence? Joseph Smith already knew everything about Jesus, he easily could’ve written a prophecy about him after the fact 🤦♀️
You really need to go back and listen more closely to this video. He did not say that a prophecy of Jesus Christ is evidence. He brought up the fact that there are several prophecies in the book that later in the book come to pass just as mentioned earlier in the book. This would be difficult to remember perfectly if dictating the manuscript just one time.
And no, he did not say the Book of Mormon is similar to fantasy novels. He was responding to critics who compare its complexity to Lord of the Rings.
And no again to the possibility of Joseph Smith creating the Book of Mormon over several years. You didn't listen to the video. There were numerous witnesses who all agree that he was not referring to any written documents when he dictated the text. If you believe in a complex conspiracy between those witnesses, that falls apart when you realize that most of these witnesses left fellowship with Joseph Smith and the church, some even became vocal enemies. Yet even with all the motivation to expose any conspiracy that may have existed, none of them did.
Again, you really need to go back and listen more carefully to this video.
@@rockartalan it is absolutely possible for someone to make prophesies of something that has already happened, it would be extremely easy.
And no one knew the language on these gold tablets Joseph Smith translated, so he could have said anything and no one would have even known of any conspiracy (such as having the story already written in his mind)
I’m sorry, there is no way I could see Joseph Smith being anything other than a charismatic liar.
@@Serve24 You really are completely missing the point of this video. You need to watch again with the intent to understand.
-Lets see the facts 1st why is the 1832 book of Mormon and todays book not the same so many changes from the original
- The book of Mormon mentions 150 names of cities names of regions. where as of today we have not a slightest clue where they happened and occurred.
-it speaks of that Lamanites and Nephites spoke some kind of revised Egyptian; that today we see no proof.
(The oldest American Indians the Olmecas, Toltecas Chichimecas, Maya, Incas and the Aztecs have no Egyptian nor Hebrew origin
-Multiple migration so DNA shows they did not come from those origins
-What distinct cultures the American Indians had no Hebrew costumes ( Like the pass over) or some kind of Moses reference.
-Book of Mormon shows 3 calendar systems (But the only one that Hebrew followed was the lunar calendar)
The truth to Mormon is that they base on a "feelings" not on facts.
As you read the Bible as history shows more truth and facts.
I challenge you to see the truth prove the world that the Book of Mormon is true.
Being Christian is 1st. FACTS 2nd FAITH 3rd. Belief and feeling (in this order)
Being Mormon is 1st. Belief and feelings 2nd Faith 3rd Facts
Please seek the truth so the truth can set you free As Yeshua (JESUS) Love you and wants you to now the truth.......
I got a bridge I want to sell you. Its in Antarctica.....
after you wake up
With all this complexity, it would just be easier for it to be true than for it to be made up by Joseph Smith.
"it can be demonstrated on so many different levels ... (names xyz)" - well, Game of Thrones, Starwars, Harry Potter etc. also have most of those things, maybe not the hebrew elements. And JS did have four years between the first vision and the day he got to have the golden plates to think of these things. So he had time to prepare his spontaneity.
Your turn! Let's see you dictate a book that can convert millions to a false gospel in the same amount of time.
@@jacobaarongarner the difference between me and JS is that I don't want to act with malicious intent. Therefore I lack the motivation of lying to people. But the fantasy stories I mentioned before pretty much serve the same purpose in our modern age of technology. Game of Thrones, Star Wars, Star Trek, Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter etc., some people follow these religiously. They come together on specific dates to worship in their fandom (aka Comic Con), they dress up as their favorite characters, spend a big portion (maybe even more than 10 percent) on merchandise, even learn the fantasy languages and the entire lore and defend it agains anyone who calls it bad names or dumb. Since we have the internet, a stunt like JS pulled, would not really be possible today because things do get debunked rather quickly, so new media and fiction has turned into our new "gospel". We don't live in 1830 anymore, so stop acting like we do.
And three more words that prove that it can still happen, just in a different way: NEW AGE MOVEMENT. People these days pay top dollar to get a reading from someone who claims they can speak to the dead or angels or whatever, like all of those mediums on TV.
@@ladyknight4162There's quite a big difference between the gospel and Harry Potter. One of these might actually be true and important. In everything Joseph Smith ever wrote, every letter and journal entry. Nothing, I mean nothing, shows his selfish intent. It's so much easier to believe the coming forth of the Book of Mormon as Joseph claimed. Despite all the bad things he did and what we don't understand and what we think is bad but is not, Hyrum stayed with him. Emma stayed with him. Not one of the witnesses denounced what they said. The Book of Mormon is astoundingly complex and has the ancient feel and evidences. There's too much to pan it off as a conman. This religion is serious. We're talking about our eternal salvation. What other evidence do you need to see? You need evidence to have faith at fist but when you finally have a trial of faith, the Holy Ghost witnesses truth. And this is truth eternal that we have a right to know the truth. We have the right to receive personal revelation.
@@mdennisrva4301 I know the history. I know the stupid things Joseph did a lot of that not including the things that are just rumors. I also know that we don't know a lot and I've accepted the imperfect man as a prophet of God. Something
I've noticed is how hard Satin's followers has tried to push people away from the church. There's not a lot that has been attacked more fiercely than the early saints and Joseph Smith. It's utterly unbelievable all the bad things that have happened to them.
And you're totally wrong about the dictation. Did you watch this video? It enplanes the intricacy so well. I doubt you'd be able to dictate a single chiasmus on the spot. The Book of Mormon is impossibly genuine and holds its own as an ancient Hebrew text.
Complexity is the word, Either ch 2 v 13 eg the Brother Jared, I for one would be utterly uncomfortable with the use of the brother of Jared being used all the time. Ive noticed that the badge on Serving Missionaries are a proud example of status this is who I am , the LDS Church and your Name , designated to that particular place to which you are called, but as for the Brother of Jared this is not so, seems so condesending. One does not speak this the Sister of Dianne, who is the Auntie of Jasmine, she the sister dianne was a recent convert to the brother of David, who was baptised in the Church last week by the Brother of Elder Frank, incidently he performed the wedding for the Sister of Dianne to the brother of Gavin
Furthermore, Harold Bloom was never a critic of Joseph Smith. He's a literary critic. He was a Joseph Smith fanboy.
Brilliant. Thank you!
If you are reading this comment section and have not yet read the Book of Mormon, let me call attention to one fact and then mention my experience. Critics of the Book of Mormon always make the same old claim: that Joseph Smith made it all up. Overlooking a mountain of evidence making it impossible for ANYONE of the early 19th century to invent that book, these critics, you will notice, always write with contempt. You will feel their hatred. And hatred cannot be inspired of God. One question they will never be able to answer is this: Why would a man give his life in order to FOOL people... into BEING GOOD??? No one tries to con others into coming to Christ. Doesn’t happen. And yet there will be No doubt in your mind after reading the book that its entire purpose is to bring people to Christ and help them live better lives. Another question these critics cannot answer is this: How did that book, if it were a con, convince me and millions of others that is IS true scripture and cause us to change their lives for the better? That book rescued me from a life of selfishness and self-destruction, and no one can say otherwise. I know the Book of Mormon is true because of the overwhelming evidence in favor of it (If you’re looking FOR that), because it has convinced the logic of my mind, and because it has convinced the feelings of my heart. And this happened in a way, difficult to describe, that made me CERTAIN that the force or fact and force of feeling came from God. Don’t listen to critics who need the book to be false in order to justify their rejection of it. Read the book for yourself, prayerfully, and with the intent to know the truth, not to verify an assumption. God will step in and help you know that He authored the Book of Mormon through ancient prophets. He did for me.
bkgoulding I’ve read the BoM many times. It’s very poorly written and mainly copied from other similar books that were around at the time. There were no horses, sheep or elephants living in the America’s at that time. There were no steel swords, chariots and massive battles. Nothing has been found. DNA has been checked and the Indians did not come from Hebrew stock. Joseph Smith put his head in a hat and dictated the book and there were no gold plates used in the translation. You may read it a million times and get a witness, but the Jews also get a witness the Tora is true and the Muslims get a similar witness the Quran is true and so on but it don’t make it so. Joseph Smith made it up as well as the Book of Abraham and the Book of Moses. He also made up the D&C and his own translation of the Bible. The same way he made up his ability to find treasure.
Sorry dude but your argument doesn't hold up. Joseph didn't selflessly go e up his life for a cause. He destroyed a printing press and was arrested. That's hardly "selfless". Also, I read the Book of Mormon. It's plaigarized. Heavily. There's plenty of evidence against the Book. And Millions of people believe in the Torah and the Quran. Your points aren't valid.
Robert Swenson this is not true.
Robert Swenson everything you say. You never read The Book of Mormon. We can see that. So, you have no right to say this things.
@Robert Swenson is the bible also disqualified?
You Know what's very Great in this Video? It gets the attention of critics and that make themselves write a very long comments of which the Spirit can't be felt.
Sorry, I would rather see the deconstruction of a cult than feel the burning in the bosom to feel if a fake book is right!
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I don't believe in the Book of Mormon (or the Bible either for that mattwr) but there is something about the Book of Mormon that has me in ongoing fascination with it, even though I don't find the KJV or the overly-Christian (aka defying Jesus) elements to be appealing.
Even if you didn't believe in the Book Of Mormon, it is a magnificent book translated or not. Joseph Smith was a very young man whom I don't believe would have been able to write it all by himself were it not for divine intervention. Just my opinion of course.
If you think the Book of Mormon is "magnificent" you haven't read enough books. It's repetitive beyond belief, boring, full of absurdities, irrelevant information, and terrible writing.
@@DoctorZisIN 1 Corinthians 2:14 "But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned."
@@Ether-pb5gb Formula for the book of Mormon: Take any bible passage, copy it, make it more wordy, repeat words and sentences like "natural man", "forever", "becometh" and "submit", sprinkle a few more words about being obedient to the cult, and there you go:
"For the natural man is an enemy to God, and has been from the fall of Adam, and will be, forever and ever, unless he yields to the enticings of the Holy Spirit, and putteth off the natural man and becometh a saint through the atonement of Christ the Lord, and becometh as a child, submissive, meek, humble, patient, full of love, willing to submit to all things which the Lord seeth fit to inflict upon him, even as a child doth submit to his father." Mosiah 3:19
@@DoctorZisIN WOW!! You have a problem with somebody in the Book of Mormon mentioning the "natural man". If the Book of Mormon really is the word of God, wouldn't you expect there to be teachings about the "flesh", or the "natural man"? I would.
@@Ether-pb5gb Maybe but if the book of Mormon is the product of a family of charlatans I would expect it to contain bible verses, some exactly copied, some altered, which it does. I would expect it to contain events from the writers life transplanted into the book, such as Joseph Senior's dream, which became Lehi's dream. I would expect it to contain things about the bible shown to be fictional, like the story of the tower of babel, the patriarchs of the Jews, such as Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and Joseph with his multi-colored coat. I would expect it to contain errors from the KJV bible, which it does. I would expect it to contain anachronisms, animals, plants and objects which don't belong in the time and place, which it does, and so on.
And I would expect it to be boring and full of Shiz, which it is.
Fawn Brodie calling him a mythmaker was not a compliment? Who made this?
These are great!! I can't wait to see more! For those who truly want to find answers please study both sides of this topic in depth. From the research I have been able to perform. I am convinced on a logical level that this book did not come from 1-3 men in the matter of a few months. Please read the Church scholars work as in depth as Anti-Mormon literature. You might be surprised what you learn.
The book has 4000 edits.
He is not talking about spelling edit...
Most "edits" are grammatical or were meant to make the verse easier to understand.
So what's your point?
I'm with Harold Bloom, at least as far as the Book of Mormon being very tedious to read is concerned. The bible is quite tedious in places, but the B of M is tedious pretty much throughout. The highlights are where you ask yourself whether the things described really happened 1600 years ago, and find there is little, if any, corroborating evidence for them. The tudor english in which the book is written also becomes wearing. Why was it translated into a language which was never spoken in the USA ever, let alone in the 1800s. It was thought to be outmoded when the King James Version was produced. Of course, this was the beloved version of the bible at the time, and it's no surprise that the B of M is written in this style. The fact that it is , makes the story about Joseph Smith translating it from some unknown language even less believable. How he translated anything by sticking his head into a hat is another mystery. If he did it that way, with just a couple of stones as tools, then what did he need the plates for?
The plates, of course, give some provenance to the B of M. Without them, he just pulled the book out of his hat. Which, we are told, is what he did, although this sounds like it was made up, so we need an artifact onto which the original was transcribed. Hence the golden plates. Once we have this story, then people are naturally going to want to see these plates to know what was on them and so on. No problem if they are genuine and actually exist. However, if not we have to get rid of them pretty quick. Well, give them back to the Archangel Moroni then, and claim there were others after them. Get a few friends and family to say they actually saw them and Bob's your uncle. Of course, this is a skeptics paradise, so we now need some Mormon apologetics, and well honed propaganda, and here we are.
KWAKUUU!!
if it's a book of genius, why did the mormon church make 4000 changes. why does continue to make changes?
why doesn't the mormon church teach the doctrine that's in the book of mormon?
you act like you think non mormons cannot read. hey! we can read. probably most of us have graduated from grammar school. some of us even read books!
It’s nuts. This books shouldn’t exist but it does.
I think Joseph Smith is a lot smarter than what people knew think he was more educated
Here is an article from BMC on Joseph Smith's education:
knowhy.bookofmormoncentral.org/content/why-would-god-choose-an-uneducated-man-to-translate-the-book-of-mormon
There are many journals from people during his day that describe him as barely educated and even struggled to read. However he was trained in some way by the angel Moroni, one day each year prior to taking the book for translation. Perhaps he was A genius beyond Einstein because even his most popular theories took years to prove.
I have checked your claims in this video and you have provided no real evidence. The book says it's TRUE therefore it's TRUE? PS...... the plan of salvation isnt in the book of mormon.
If the church is so true, why would the message of christ not even mention if he was married, that's apparently super important for exaltation however christ didnt lead that as an example. Why would the true church have to change with social pressure, like taking out the suicidal ritual from the temple. Why is the temple so weird lol. Why does it only focus on loyalty to the church and its leaders instead of greater messages like love and service.
Some have reasoned that Christ must have been married. But the truth is is that we do not know if he was married or not during his earthly life. It can be implied through scripture a number of ways, as some have suggested. But we just don't know.
Regarding the temple, the ceremonies and rituals might seem strange to you, but they are no different in uniqueness than a catholic family taking their baby to the priest to be baptized. They are an outward performance of an inward commitment. From my studies, I have been able to find many parts of the temple ceremony in the Old Testament, in plane sight.
Also, you need the spirit to understand spiritual things. 1 Corinthians 2:14 "But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned."
Thank you!
I would agree that it is, like it or not, an example of some of the great American literature. Smith, Cowdery, Rigdon, Whitmer, Hail, all masterfully wove together a huge story that, while it may not hold a candle to the Bible, certainly shows the influence that scripture had over those men involved to the extent of dogged and unashamed imitation.
Stylometry has demonstrated that those people did not write the Book of Mormon. See this video by the same organization.
ruclips.net/video/hBcAKdbCbEc/видео.html
Sidney Rigdon was not involved in the production of the Book of Mormon. It was published almost 2 years before he first saw it. There is no legitimate evidence to the contrary.
The Book of Mormon is true, I know it and God knows it!
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Then let us testify against the Anti-mormons and nay sayers! The Book of Mormon is true Brother!
@@thurbs123 "complexity" is not a proof.
Where's the actual proof?
Arel R complexity isn’t a proof u are right. Although in this case the BoM’s complexity suggests it would have required multiple geniuses with the information that wasn’t available to them back then. It’s “complexity” is that Joseph Smith had a 3rd grade education...so after we know of the factual complexity of the book. How do u then say Joseph wrote it? U can’t. There’s a book out called a case for the Book of Mormon that goes over this
I bet `The late war of 1812` `the Bible` `the View of the Hebrews` `First book of Napoleon` have the same things in those books that "Prove" it true.
All that for a work of fiction.
I do not need any of that because the answer is there just by reading the book of mormon, and having the humility to learn to sincerely seek the truth of these scriptures and if it is true ask God he will answer in a while but when you least expect it you receive in the most beautiful way I have not forgotten it yet and I will never forget it. God wants Faith, the rest will come and strengthen what you have already demonstrated to God that you are hungry to know from him to know the truth and light will come and when you least expect it, that light will be with you constantly.
Lost me at 1:55 when Kwaku said the BOM is essentially free from error....time has shown through over 3000 revisions/corrections that is not true...just more lies, deception and misrepresentation....
You dought the BOM, how it all truefull the phrophet told me it was so . Well at least it will be correct when its revised another 10 times. Then then you will eat your words, Ha ha. Especially with the witters we can now afford due to the generous contributions due to this video appeal. lol
@@RichieWellock I KNOW the BOM not to be true. :-) But most LDS people I know are pretty nice.
@@billhays6826 yeah I dont know any of them. I would not bother reading Bom got better things to do. funny video though.
This is probably a preacher at a babtist church that thinks god only let his gospel go to the European side of the world in ancient times
I LOVE reading the Book of Mormon!! Wonderful video!
This is a fairy tale.
I'm absolutely amazed how something is purported as true but lacking historical facts! Fiction vs. Non.
1 Corinthians 2:14
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
If you don’t think it’s true then prove it. I’ll wait.