I think there's something about the way the Danelectro 6-string bass combines with Carl's Fender Jaguar sound that make the Beach Boys sound that we all know and love. On my channel I've recorded a number of Beach Boys songs with a cheapo surf guitar sound but there are people out there who have gone much farther. Almost anything by the Fendertones is an example of a high quality Beach Boys sound.
@@RockStarOscarStern634 True, but I don't recall seeing any pictures of the Beach Boys or the Wrecking Crew playing a Fender 6-string bass. It might be similar to the situation with 12-string guitars that to get that real Byrds sound, you need a Rickenbacker even though many companies make 12-string guitars.
@@jlforrest The Fender Bass VI can cover those parts, & Ibanez makes the SRC6 which is a little 6 String Bass tuned an Octave below a Guitar w/ a 30 in Scale. The Schecter HELLRAISER C-VI is a Baritone Guitar with a 30 in Scale tuned an Octave below a Standard Guitar.
I'm not a musician so the Danelectro was always even more of a mystery to me than the other instruments. This is a wonderful look at what the Dano does, and did, for Brian's music. I am pretty sure we get to see Probyn Gregory play Dano lots in Brian's live shows----now I know what I've been looking at and hearing all these years. Thanks!
I was amazed when I found out how early McCartney started recording with the Rick bass! With palm muting he can make it sound a lot like the Hofner, and those bases couldn't be more different. Add to that layering and studio EQ and compression and it's so tough to tell whats being used sometimes. Fascinating tho. I love Danos.
Joshilyn Hoisington Duane eddy plays the Gretsch Bass VI. This instrument is essentially an Electric Bajo Sexto (or as Tex Mex guys call it Bajo Sexto Electrico) tuned an Octave below a Standard Guitar & it was originally used to accompany the Accordion, but now it's popular in rock music, & even song covers.
This is such a super cool video, I am an obsessive fan of Danelectros of all shapes, sizes and ages. It's so tricky, because I guess on paper if someone is down as playing guitar - they could be playing the Dano, and could be doubling some or all of a bass part. Just an observation having played new and old Danos, the older ones have an insanely lively attack compared to the new ones, like a spiky fast pop, and decay quicker, they are much more percussive. But then I've read that Carol put a bigger bridge on hers back in the day and did some other shit to it - so it may have sounded closer to the later reissues! Plus they used lovely compressors. Who knows! Perhaps you one day, you are the best hope. I hope to be able to become a patreon soon, I love what you do, it's just what I would like to do if I were more ejumucated and smarter and more disciplined. Super interesting. Your cat is also super interesting and awesome.
I love this instrument now, I always knew vague things about something like this through the Beatles using a fender 6 string bass guitar. I love how you are able to go ahead and remember how to play all the bass parts for all the classic BB tunes and I instantly can recognize them!
I do remember Brian saying he always doubled the parts probably with the Dano as well as the fender. But that is just stating the obvious as I know you already know he doubled bass parts constantly.
Foam taped over top the strings at the bridge; just like Carol Kaye. Another interesting story involving a Danelectro 6-String bass is John Entwistle, the three he tried to record My Generation with--used a Fender jazz bass instead when all was said and done--the breaking the irreplaceable strings at that time and the inspiration for developing the first stainless round wound, hex core, stainless steel bass guitar strings; Rotosound Swing 66 strings.
The Electric Bass was originally made for us Guitarists cause it was originally played w/ a Pick so we can add some low end to our Band. Upright Bassists also loved it because they were like "I'm not hauling that Big Upright Bass on the Bus, I'll go w/ an Electric Bass".
Unless you can distinctively make out a separate Dano part, I'm pretty sure he mostly used it to double (or triple if there was an upright in the mix) the fender bass. So different basses are gonna hop out of the mix at different times
I can! It's actually fairly rare to have all three, and somewhat rare to find Fender and Dano on the same tune. When a Fender and a Dano are present on the same tune, they actually tend to play somewhat different things and then come together from time to time. Wouldn't It Be Nice, That's Not Me, and Salt Lake City are good examples of that.
Joshilyn Hoisington The reason why Upright Basses aren't as loud as Electric Guitars & Acoustic Basses is because they're Acoustically Compromised (like the Viola) in that they're scaled down from the Optimal Size that would be appropriate for those low notes.
Joshilyn Hoisington Electric Bass is an Electric version of the Upright Bass which is so much easier to carry & you also get to play with a Pick. The Bass VI is essentially an Electric Bajo Sexto (or as Tex Mex peeps call it Bajo Sexto Electrico) because it's tuned an Octave below a Guitar. The Bajo Sexto was originally used in Tex Mex Music with Accordion in all Fourths Tuning (E, A, D, G, C, F) an Octave lower than a Standard Guitar. Interestingly enough it looks like a 12 String Guitar but the neck meets the body at the 12th fret, & the body is also thicker which helps the lower notes resonate better.
@Blend42 I don't -- the assumption is always that it was pretty much 100% Dano unless I come across something solid to the contrary. It is possible that because of their friendship and longtime use of Fender instruments, the Boys had a Fender VI that they used, vs the studio musicians having Danelectros. Certainly the photographic evidence points to all the studio people being Dano players.
Two songs come to mind when i think of the dano 6, dont worry bout me, grady martin and wichita lineman , glen cambell. But yes totally agree carol kaye played one too and its all over pet sounds. Enjoyed your video, nice
Not a musician here, just a BBs and BW geek for nearly 40 years. Your vids are super interesting even for a layman like me, and your reconstructions of the Today tracks have been super groovy. And best of all--you have a cat! I finally clicked the subscribe button! I also just looked to see what new ukuleles are going for. Can you really get a good one for a hundred bucks or less? I may have to peel off some money from my next paycheck so I can see your Help Me, Ronda vid sooner than later...
Thanks! Yeah, I'm a cat lady. And yes, ukes are not too pricey, and I don't really need a good one; just good enough for my purposes. Thanks for considering it and for watching. I'm glad that non-musicians get something out of them!
The confusion is understandable. A lightbulb went off for me when I figured out why Brian kept saying “start it out with the Fender bass” on the Good Vibrations session. It meant that the Dano, which had usually just doubled for the whole song, was being asked to lay off the high bassline in the verse. And was now just punching in where it was wanted or needed in the track. (Like on that first GV track where you can hear it later on.) Brian knew the strengths and limitations of each instrument in the context of the track. And he wanted to be dynamic at all times if he could. So he meticulously distributed sounds, just the right ones, no more and no less, as well as the actual notes.
I literally think about the Dano/Fender/Beach Boys thing daily. And I don’t mean the new-literally. I mean the old one before it became it became to mean figuratively. Where did you buy the Dano? What year is it? Totally awesome video. :)
Glad I'm not the only person who thinks about these things constantly. I got the Dano on Reverb. I don't know the year but I think it's from one of their reissue campaigns--maybe the 90s one?
Do you use flatwounds on the Dano? I know Carol used flats on her Fender, but I could never figure out what her and the others used on their Dano. I’m not much of a guitar or bass player, but I bought a Squire Fender VI a few years ago because I couldn’t find a reissue Dano new or used anywhere. I can’t get it to sound like a Dano in the slightest...I was wondering if using flatwounds would help the tone...
@@thecwaxman No, they came shipped with rounds in the 50s and 60s and Carol and others say they just used the round-wounds generally on the six strings.
@@joshilynhoisington Hi, really interesting.Do you use both pickups at max tone max volume on thos video? And to be more precise i guess you just put nickel plated roundwound strings , is it that ?
Joshilyn Hoisington Lots of instrument companies make the 6 String Bass tuned an Octave below a Standard Guitar such as Fender, Schecter, Ibanez, you name it & it's really an Electric Bajo Sexto (6 Course Bass).
Joshilyn Hoisington The Double Bass is Acoustically compromised like the Viola because it's smaller than optimal for its range, the Pickups & Amplifier of the Bass Guitar work around that issue.
Joshilyn Hoisington Ibanez, Gretsch, & Fender make these instruments too (etc). It's basically a Bajo Sexto Electrico (tuned an Octave below a Normal Guitar). What songs were you doing?
Joshilyn Hoisington Fender 24-100 Gauge Strings ought to help enhance its intonation. BTW the Bass Guitar was made to replace the Double Bass because Double Basses are Acoustically imperfect in that (even though they're big) they're shrunk down from the Optimal Size that would be appropriate for those low notes (like the Viola) to make them playable by Humans. The Pickups & amp of the Bass Guitar address that issue by allowing those low notes to be amplified Electronically.
I’ve played a lot of cheap precision copies, and some of them are actually easier to approximate that tictac sound on than others. And it’s fun to do when you don’t have to work too hard at it.
The bass guitar work from "The Girl From New York City" is really cool to hear. It reminds me of the bass guitar work on the Rolling Stones "Street Fighting Man."
Check out the Crests' 'Trouble in Paradise', and the 1963-67 Password theme' and both are on utoob. The six string bassist is most likely Vinnie Bell, part of the East Coast 'Wrecking Crew', who played on TONS of mid '50's through '60's top 40 hits, until most everything moved to the West Coast. Vinnie's just chuggin' away on both these cuts, havin' a ball !
Interesting you say that, on Hushabye by the mystics, i hear the upright bass and then a bass vi or baritone playing over it for a bit of piano-y growl and sparkle.
@UCMbSQq3vY5JayyOMotj5k0g My Bass is a 5 String w/ a Low B & the idea behind it was so that the Bassist could play some lower notes (they now have 5 String Upright Basses) as well as transpose more easily.
Well, keep in mind the conception of a baritone Danelectro is a pretty new phenomenon -- at some point they decided to market what had been the 6-string bass as a baritone, and yeah, pretty much it's the same instrument as ever. But Danelectro also markets a bunch of new baritone styles that have nothing to do with original 6-string bass. The important thing is that the 6-string bass has a 30-inch scale. I believe the current guitars marketed as "baritones" from Dano retain the 30-inch scale, even though a proper scale length for something tuned A-a or B-b should be shorter than that.
Check out the octobass, that is one huge earthquake maker !!!! YESSSS BASS-GUITAR, you got it, right on the spot !!! Back in the days, the bass-guitar didn't make it good, all bass players played the upright ( 4 strings, some upright had 5 and 6 strings, but that faded away.. )P.S. you tried any of those BASS mutes ??? I really enjoyed your experience, thank you. ;)
@@RockStarOscarStern634 Or they are free from the dictatorship of who ever says music should be. study Europe and the churches laws against certain scales and other music practices that now are free to use, I DID!! Quite enlightening.
In 1935 the Bass Guitars were Originally Fretless because they were scaled Down Electrified Double Basses, however 5 years later they added frets to them. All that said Jaco bought the Fretless Bass back home. A lot of articles need updates.
You're welcome - yeah rather light roundwounds on my Dano. My assumption has been that the studio pros had rounds on their 6-string basses. Danelectro shipped theirs with rounds, for example. It's possible that there was some variation of course.
@@Johngonefishin It's a good question without a definitive answer. Flatwounds were definitely around, and all the Fender bassists used them. Carol Kaye once told me she used roundwounds on her Dano, and apparently they shipped from the factory with rounds as well. Guitars are a bit harder to say, and I think everybody pretty much used what they wanted. I think the session people probably aped what they were hearing from the garage bands that played early rock and roll and tried flats on their electrics, but people like Barney Kessel and Howard Roberts tended to use some form of burnished rounds or half-rounds for their own music. Carl Wilson used flats up until some unknown date in the mid 60s, possibly after his Jaguar was stolen. So the short answer is, Flats were it on Fender bass for sure, and the rest is a bit up in the air and variable.
There were times all three bass instruments were being used with the bottom end of a Rhodes electric piano and normal piano to my know Carol plays on all the beach boys and she would make a shive for her p bass that muted the string without silenced the bass loseing tone there a vido on you tube were she shows how
I remember hearing that double tracked bass on lots of songs in the 60s. I was only a guitarist kid way back then and just assumed the sound came from a picked p bass! We need Carol Kay to visit with you!! I was influenced by McCartney's playing, but really love all basses. I record with pbass, Hofner and have also loved the RIC sounds Tyran Porter played in Doobie early 70s records. Nice job, and good luck with your channel!!
I love your videos. When I get my check in I will donate soon. Did you see Fender recently released an electric Ukulele? Only 200 dollars! Google it. I love your videos so much. Will you ever, eventually, explore Jan and Dean songs?
I'm so pleased that you are enjoying them. I might branch out at some point and do some other bands--but for now I'm sticking to the Beach Boys... Unless I change my mind! :)
Fender also makes a Bass VI, & so does Gibson, & Gretch. It's basically an Electrified Bajo Sexto. Bajo Sexto is a 12 String Guitar tuned an Octave down.
The Electric Bass was original made as a replacement for the Upright Bass because it's much easier to carry. Mine is a 5 String Bass (with a Low B) because I can play in every key. Extended range Guitars & Basses have additional strings (both lower and higher) which make transposing alot easier so you can fit the ranges of other instruments & vocalists especially on church gigs.
Thank you for mentioning Jan Berry. He seems to get left out of a lot of 60's Music discussions. I know your mainly Beach Boy's/Brian Wilson. But without Jan I do not think you would've had the BB's. At least as we know them. According to Love it was Baby Talk they were copying with Surfin'. And upon hearing them. Capitol execs told Murray. "Of course we'll sign your boy's ! They sound just like Jan & Dean. And back to Jan being left out. He most likely had more to do with Brian using the Studio Musicians/ Wrecking Crew than anyone including Phil. I would love to see you do some on Jan Berry. Especially Dead Man's Curve. Since you do Brass. That intro is Killer ! So Thank you for reading this. And please consider doing some J&D !
@UCMbSQq3vY5JayyOMotj5k0g This is alot easier to carry than P Bass cause it's even smaller than an Upright Bass, & is even lighter weight. Fender also makes 6 String Basses tuned an Octave below a Guitar & it's actually called Bass-Baritone Guitar cause it has a Bass-Baritone Voice. Fender also makes the Bass VI, & even Ibanez:www.ibanez.com/usa/products/detail/src6_1p_04.html The reason why they have thinner Strings & is to make it easier on the left hand.
You’re are horrendously terribly wrong at demonstrating the six-string bass. I was there when it all happened. It was the Nashville A-Team who first brought it out in 1957. Wake up Girl. What planet are you from? Harold Bradley with Bob Moore. Research before you bring out further embarrassment upon yourself……..
Fun Fact. That 'I get Around' opening at 5:00 is Brians best shot at a musical representation of a car door slamming shut.
I like your obsessive passion for historical details.
You get the best Dano bass vi tone I’ve heard! I have one but could never get the tone. You nailed it. I’ll give it another try.
I think there's something about the way the Danelectro 6-string bass combines with Carl's Fender Jaguar sound that make the Beach Boys sound that we all know and love. On my channel I've recorded a number of Beach Boys songs with a cheapo surf guitar sound but there are people out there who have gone much farther. Almost anything by the Fendertones is an example of a high quality Beach Boys sound.
Fender makes those as well.
@@RockStarOscarStern634 True, but I don't recall seeing any pictures of the Beach Boys or the Wrecking Crew playing a Fender 6-string bass. It might be similar to the situation with 12-string guitars that to get that real Byrds sound, you need a Rickenbacker even though many companies make 12-string guitars.
@@jlforrest The Fender Bass VI can cover those parts, & Ibanez makes the SRC6 which is a little 6 String Bass tuned an Octave below a Guitar w/ a 30 in Scale. The Schecter HELLRAISER C-VI is a Baritone Guitar with a 30 in Scale tuned an Octave below a Standard Guitar.
@@jlforrest The wrecking crew works great on a Fender Bass VI.
I'm not a musician so the Danelectro was always even more of a mystery to me than the other instruments. This is a wonderful look at what the Dano does, and did, for Brian's music. I am pretty sure we get to see Probyn Gregory play Dano lots in Brian's live shows----now I know what I've been looking at and hearing all these years. Thanks!
I was amazed when I found out how early McCartney started recording with the Rick bass! With palm muting he can make it sound a lot like the Hofner, and those bases couldn't be more different. Add to that layering and studio EQ and compression and it's so tough to tell whats being used sometimes. Fascinating tho. I love Danos.
How early did Paul McCartney start recording with the Rick bass?
@@Paul-dw2cl 1965 i guess
There's a Dano 6 string (played by Rene Hall) on much of Ritchie Valens' recordings including LaBamba and that was 1958.
Wonderful analysis and playing, as always!
Joshilyn Hoisington Duane eddy plays the Gretsch Bass VI. This instrument is essentially an Electric Bajo Sexto (or as Tex Mex guys call it Bajo Sexto Electrico) tuned an Octave below a Standard Guitar & it was originally used to accompany the Accordion, but now it's popular in rock music, & even song covers.
This is such a super cool video, I am an obsessive fan of Danelectros of all shapes, sizes and ages. It's so tricky, because I guess on paper if someone is down as playing guitar - they could be playing the Dano, and could be doubling some or all of a bass part. Just an observation having played new and old Danos, the older ones have an insanely lively attack compared to the new ones, like a spiky fast pop, and decay quicker, they are much more percussive. But then I've read that Carol put a bigger bridge on hers back in the day and did some other shit to it - so it may have sounded closer to the later reissues! Plus they used lovely compressors. Who knows! Perhaps you one day, you are the best hope. I hope to be able to become a patreon soon, I love what you do, it's just what I would like to do if I were more ejumucated and smarter and more disciplined. Super interesting. Your cat is also super interesting and awesome.
I love this instrument now, I always knew vague things about something like this through the Beatles using a fender 6 string bass guitar. I love how you are able to go ahead and remember how to play all the bass parts for all the classic BB tunes and I instantly can recognize them!
I do remember Brian saying he always doubled the parts probably with the Dano as well as the fender. But that is just stating the obvious as I know you already know he doubled bass parts constantly.
Foam taped over top the strings at the bridge; just like Carol Kaye. Another interesting story involving a Danelectro 6-String bass is John Entwistle, the three he tried to record My Generation with--used a Fender jazz bass instead when all was said and done--the breaking the irreplaceable strings at that time and the inspiration for developing the first stainless round wound, hex core, stainless steel bass guitar strings; Rotosound Swing 66 strings.
The Electric Bass was originally made for us Guitarists cause it was originally played w/ a Pick so we can add some low end to our Band. Upright Bassists also loved it because they were like "I'm not hauling that Big Upright Bass on the Bus, I'll go w/ an Electric Bass".
Unless you can distinctively make out a separate Dano part, I'm pretty sure he mostly used it to double (or triple if there was an upright in the mix) the fender bass. So different basses are gonna hop out of the mix at different times
I can! It's actually fairly rare to have all three, and somewhat rare to find Fender and Dano on the same tune. When a Fender and a Dano are present on the same tune, they actually tend to play somewhat different things and then come together from time to time. Wouldn't It Be Nice, That's Not Me, and Salt Lake City are good examples of that.
Joshilyn Hoisington
The reason why Upright Basses aren't as loud as Electric Guitars & Acoustic Basses is because they're Acoustically Compromised (like the Viola) in that they're scaled down from the Optimal Size that would be appropriate for those low notes.
Joshilyn Hoisington Electric Bass is an Electric version of the Upright Bass which is so much easier to carry & you also get to play with a Pick. The Bass VI is essentially an Electric Bajo Sexto (or as Tex Mex peeps call it Bajo Sexto Electrico) because it's tuned an Octave below a Guitar. The Bajo Sexto was originally used in Tex Mex Music with Accordion in all Fourths Tuning (E, A, D, G, C, F) an Octave lower than a Standard Guitar. Interestingly enough it looks like a 12 String Guitar but the neck meets the body at the 12th fret, & the body is also thicker which helps the lower notes resonate better.
wonderful piece. Do you know where the Beach Boys used the Fender Bass VI vs the Danoelectric?
@Blend42 I don't -- the assumption is always that it was pretty much 100% Dano unless I come across something solid to the contrary. It is possible that because of their friendship and longtime use of Fender instruments, the Boys had a Fender VI that they used, vs the studio musicians having Danelectros. Certainly the photographic evidence points to all the studio people being Dano players.
@@joshilynhoisington Thank you!
Another nice video.
6-string bass (baritone guitar) is great on Beach Boys records and also on New Order records!
We use it a fair bit, too.
:-)
BTW Fender updated the Bass VI String set it's now 24-100 Gauge Strings
Two songs come to mind when i think of the dano 6, dont worry bout me, grady martin and wichita lineman , glen cambell. But yes totally agree carol kaye played one too and its all over pet sounds. Enjoyed your video, nice
Not a musician here, just a BBs and BW geek for nearly 40 years. Your vids are super interesting even for a layman like me, and your reconstructions of the Today tracks have been super groovy. And best of all--you have a cat! I finally clicked the subscribe button! I also just looked to see what new ukuleles are going for. Can you really get a good one for a hundred bucks or less? I may have to peel off some money from my next paycheck so I can see your Help Me, Ronda vid sooner than later...
Thanks! Yeah, I'm a cat lady. And yes, ukes are not too pricey, and I don't really need a good one; just good enough for my purposes. Thanks for considering it and for watching. I'm glad that non-musicians get something out of them!
The confusion is understandable. A lightbulb went off for me when I figured out why Brian kept saying “start it out with the Fender bass” on the Good Vibrations session. It meant that the Dano, which had usually just doubled for the whole song, was being asked to lay off the high bassline in the verse. And was now just punching in where it was wanted or needed in the track. (Like on that first GV track where you can hear it later on.) Brian knew the strengths and limitations of each instrument in the context of the track. And he wanted to be dynamic at all times if he could. So he meticulously distributed sounds, just the right ones, no more and no less, as well as the actual notes.
10:35 Where did this chorus come from?
I literally think about the Dano/Fender/Beach Boys thing daily. And I don’t mean the new-literally. I mean the old one before it became it became to mean figuratively. Where did you buy the Dano? What year is it? Totally awesome video. :)
Glad I'm not the only person who thinks about these things constantly. I got the Dano on Reverb. I don't know the year but I think it's from one of their reissue campaigns--maybe the 90s one?
Do you use flatwounds on the Dano? I know Carol used flats on her Fender, but I could never figure out what her and the others used on their Dano. I’m not much of a guitar or bass player, but I bought a Squire Fender VI a few years ago because I couldn’t find a reissue Dano new or used anywhere. I can’t get it to sound like a Dano in the slightest...I was wondering if using flatwounds would help the tone...
@@thecwaxman No, they came shipped with rounds in the 50s and 60s and Carol and others say they just used the round-wounds generally on the six strings.
@@joshilynhoisington Hi, really interesting.Do you use both pickups at max tone max volume on thos video? And to be more precise i guess you just put nickel plated roundwound strings , is it that ?
@@Desaulnierspf Just the bridge pickup, full volume and tone. And yes, nickel rounds.
Joshilyn Hoisington Lots of instrument companies make the 6 String Bass tuned an Octave below a Standard Guitar such as Fender, Schecter, Ibanez, you name it & it's really an Electric Bajo Sexto (6 Course Bass).
So interesting.the way you played the six string Dan electro baratone guitar I hear it from the 50’s and 60’s records now I know.
10:38 That note is obviously an E Half-Sharp because these little 6 String Basses don't have good intonation
Joshilyn Hoisington
The Double Bass is Acoustically compromised like the Viola because it's smaller than optimal for its range, the Pickups & Amplifier of the Bass Guitar work around that issue.
What about the six string squire fender?... Tx!
Joshilyn Hoisington Ibanez, Gretsch, & Fender make these instruments too (etc). It's basically a Bajo Sexto Electrico (tuned an Octave below a Normal Guitar). What songs were you doing?
Super helpful - thanks. The Danelectro is a much edgier sound.
What pick do you use?
Joshilyn Hoisington
Fender 24-100 Gauge Strings ought to help enhance its intonation. BTW the Bass Guitar was made to replace the Double Bass because Double Basses are Acoustically imperfect in that (even though they're big) they're shrunk down from the Optimal Size that would be appropriate for those low notes (like the Viola) to make them playable by Humans. The Pickups & amp of the Bass Guitar address that issue by allowing those low notes to be amplified Electronically.
great video and gerat playing. love today album
I’ve played a lot of cheap precision copies, and some of them are actually easier to approximate that tictac sound on than others. And it’s fun to do when you don’t have to work too hard at it.
Supercool. I love these investigations.
Why not use a set of Fender 250B6 Strings? They've refined the gauges so it's now 24-100.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
The bass guitar work from "The Girl From New York City" is really cool to hear. It reminds me of the bass guitar work on the Rolling Stones "Street Fighting Man."
Fender 24-100 Gauge Strings might help
What amp and speakers are you using?
Check out the Crests' 'Trouble in Paradise', and the 1963-67 Password theme' and both are on utoob. The six string bassist is most likely Vinnie Bell, part of the East Coast 'Wrecking Crew', who played on TONS of mid '50's through '60's top 40 hits, until most everything moved to the West Coast. Vinnie's just chuggin' away on both these cuts, havin' a ball !
Interesting you say that, on Hushabye by the mystics, i hear the upright bass and then a bass vi or baritone playing over it for a bit of piano-y growl and sparkle.
@UCMbSQq3vY5JayyOMotj5k0g
My Bass is a 5 String w/ a Low B & the idea behind it was so that the Bassist could play some lower notes (they now have 5 String Upright Basses) as well as transpose more easily.
Are the dano baritones and 6 string basses the same guitar only strung with different guage strings?
Well, keep in mind the conception of a baritone Danelectro is a pretty new phenomenon -- at some point they decided to market what had been the 6-string bass as a baritone, and yeah, pretty much it's the same instrument as ever. But Danelectro also markets a bunch of new baritone styles that have nothing to do with original 6-string bass. The important thing is that the 6-string bass has a 30-inch scale. I believe the current guitars marketed as "baritones" from Dano retain the 30-inch scale, even though a proper scale length for something tuned A-a or B-b should be shorter than that.
What songs were those?
Check out the octobass, that is one huge earthquake maker !!!! YESSSS BASS-GUITAR, you got it, right on the spot !!!
Back in the days, the bass-guitar didn't make it good, all bass players played the upright ( 4 strings, some upright had 5 and 6 strings, but that faded away.. )P.S. you tried any of those BASS mutes ??? I really enjoyed your experience, thank you. ;)
However those 5 & 6 String Uprights (even a 7 String:ruclips.net/video/Q8FjRJCpsEE/видео.html) have been revived
@@RockStarOscarStern634 I saw a poster ad of an amp company with a 5 string upright. thanks for the link and the fresh news!!!
@@bertrandmajorik6589 Extended range upright basses have been revived cause they're cool.
@@RockStarOscarStern634 Or they are free from the dictatorship of who ever says music should be. study Europe and the churches laws against certain scales and other music practices that now are free to use, I DID!! Quite enlightening.
In 1935 the Bass Guitars were Originally Fretless because they were scaled Down Electrified Double Basses, however 5 years later they added frets to them. All that said Jaco bought the Fretless Bass back home. A lot of articles need updates.
What type of strings is on this bass ? Sounds like it's a light gauge. Roundwounds ?
(Thanks for your incredible BB knowledge !)
You're welcome - yeah rather light roundwounds on my Dano. My assumption has been that the studio pros had rounds on their 6-string basses. Danelectro shipped theirs with rounds, for example. It's possible that there was some variation of course.
I here them from the 1950’s recoding’s by the crest step by step and Ritchie valen’s bony Moroni 🎸🎙
you obviously missed I Get Around. Carl plays it. And that was stolen from Sugar Shack by the Fireballs...
I think Bill Pitman plays one of these on Mr. Tambourine Man while Larry Knechtel plays a fender.
Yes!
@@joshilynhoisington Is there any way to connect via email? Your videos speak to my soul.
@@nealvosberg633 joshilyn@umich.edu
@@joshilynhoisington So is it all roundwound strings on these vintage recordings, or did anyone use flatwounds ??
@@Johngonefishin It's a good question without a definitive answer. Flatwounds were definitely around, and all the Fender bassists used them. Carol Kaye once told me she used roundwounds on her Dano, and apparently they shipped from the factory with rounds as well. Guitars are a bit harder to say, and I think everybody pretty much used what they wanted. I think the session people probably aped what they were hearing from the garage bands that played early rock and roll and tried flats on their electrics, but people like Barney Kessel and Howard Roberts tended to use some form of burnished rounds or half-rounds for their own music. Carl Wilson used flats up until some unknown date in the mid 60s, possibly after his Jaguar was stolen. So the short answer is, Flats were it on Fender bass for sure, and the rest is a bit up in the air and variable.
Amazing analysis! I am a Beach Boys super mega ultra nerd
There were times all three bass instruments were being used with the bottom end of a Rhodes electric piano and normal piano to my know Carol plays on all the beach boys and she would make a shive for her p bass that muted the string without silenced the bass loseing tone there a vido on you tube were she shows how
Ur awesome
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I remember hearing that double tracked bass on lots of songs in the 60s. I was only a guitarist kid way back then and just assumed the sound came from a picked p bass! We need Carol Kay to visit with you!!
I was influenced by McCartney's playing, but really love all basses. I record with pbass, Hofner and have also loved the RIC sounds Tyran Porter played in Doobie early 70s records.
Nice job, and good luck with your channel!!
I only found out about it from a country podcast cocaine and rhinestones where he focused on it in one of his episodes and played many examples.
Tom petty seemed perplexed by Brian's bass gtr sounds as well.
I love your videos. When I get my check in I will donate soon. Did you see Fender recently released an electric Ukulele? Only 200 dollars! Google it. I love your videos so much. Will you ever, eventually, explore Jan and Dean songs?
I'm so pleased that you are enjoying them. I might branch out at some point and do some other bands--but for now I'm sticking to the Beach Boys... Unless I change my mind! :)
Fender also makes a Bass VI, & so does Gibson, & Gretch. It's basically an Electrified Bajo Sexto. Bajo Sexto is a 12 String Guitar tuned an Octave down.
The Electric Bass was original made as a replacement for the Upright Bass because it's much easier to carry. Mine is a 5 String Bass (with a Low B) because I can play in every key. Extended range Guitars & Basses have additional strings (both lower and higher) which make transposing alot easier so you can fit the ranges of other instruments & vocalists especially on church gigs.
Fender made their own version of the Dan Electro 6 String Bass a bit later
You can also play Glee cast songs on the Bass VI cause Naya Rivera will hear it in hevan. She sadly died of Drowning.
Thank you for mentioning Jan Berry. He seems to get left out of a lot of 60's Music discussions. I know your mainly Beach Boy's/Brian Wilson. But without Jan I do not think you would've had the BB's. At least as we know them. According to Love it was Baby Talk they were copying with Surfin'. And upon hearing them. Capitol execs told Murray. "Of course we'll sign your boy's ! They sound just like Jan & Dean. And back to Jan being left out. He most likely had more to do with Brian using the Studio Musicians/ Wrecking Crew than anyone including Phil. I would love to see you do some on Jan Berry. Especially Dead Man's Curve. Since you do Brass. That intro is Killer ! So Thank you for reading this. And please consider doing some J&D !
The electric bass is easier to play than a Double Bass because it has frets which help find the notes, and it's smaller.
2:54 Yeah an Electric Contrabass Guitar.
Isn’t that a baritone? Danelectro labels it as such.
@@profile2047 It's actually a 6 String Bass which in modern terms we call a Contrabass Guitar as it's tuned an Octave below a normal Guitar.
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This is alot easier to carry than P Bass cause it's even smaller than an Upright Bass, & is even lighter weight. Fender also makes 6 String Basses tuned an Octave below a Guitar & it's actually called Bass-Baritone Guitar cause it has a Bass-Baritone Voice. Fender also makes the Bass VI, & even Ibanez:www.ibanez.com/usa/products/detail/src6_1p_04.html The reason why they have thinner Strings & is to make it easier on the left hand.
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You’re are horrendously terribly wrong at demonstrating the six-string bass. I was there when it all happened. It was the Nashville A-Team who first brought it out in 1957. Wake up Girl. What planet are you from? Harold Bradley with Bob Moore. Research before you bring out further embarrassment upon yourself……..
Worst ever….. take it down, you’re embarrassing yourself……geez! 👎