It’s still a pretty big oversimplification. It leaves out the fact that a super slow CPU won’t bottleneck a very fast gpu if you’re doing something that doesn’t need much CPU relative to GPU (like gaming at 8 or 16K resolution). Bottleneck calculators are almost useless because they spit out an arbitrary number that doesn’t really mean anything. 70% bottleneck? Based on what? What is the computer doing? Not every application uses the system in the same way. You will always have a bottleneck because there will always be a part that is being used more heavily than the others. Obviously this doesn’t mean that system balance is useless. It’s generally a good idea to match components of a similar year and product tier. But an i9 13900k will bottleneck a 4090 just like an i3 12100F if you’re only playing at 1080p. And a 4090 will bottleneck an i3 9100F just the same as it will an i9 13900K if you’re playing at 8K.
@@HowlingMoai ok unless youre gaming on a legitimate television how the fuck are you using 8k i cannot find a 8k monitor beloe 3k usd, thats literally like a super high end cpu gpu and ram combined FOR A MONITOR, i didnt even look at 16k to not have a heart attack
SSDs can be thrown into this list too. Some games like to chunk load. Doesn't matter how fast your other components are. You'll get a frametime spike upon loading a new chunk.
No. That's not how it works. Games are made for HDD due to its higher market share. SSD hardly improves anything else aside from about 2x-3x faster loading maximum (in spite being up to 50x faster than HDD). It will not help with stutters or frametime in 99% of the games out there.
@@cunnyman that's why I said "some games like to chunk load". I didn't say its 100% necessary to have a good ssd, lest your game experience suck scrote.
I think this is a very good explanation, but I think it's also important to mention that bottlenecks will vary depending on whether the game is GPU heavy or CPU heavy, which can mean that a bottleneck may not be a huge issue if the bottlenecked component isn't being utilised fully anyway.
@@fuzeteaFzt well technically there's always something holding something else back, but if the pairing is fairly good, then the bottleneck will be minimal. For example, my laptop (R7 5800H CPU/RTX 3070 Mobile GPU) has a bottleneck of like 3% on the GPU, so technically if that GPU was paired with a far more powerful CPU, you could potentially squeeze out that extra 3%. The thing is, none of these components are meant to 'go together' and work perfectly, so technically that's fine. Plus, the overall 'power' or performance is technically a bottleneck to a certain performance, even if the components are well matched (i.e. the components may not be limiting each other, but the computer can only perform so well so technically the PC specs themselves are the bottleneck).
@@fuzeteaFzt if you dont have a bottleneck that means EVERYTHING is running at 100% all the time, which is nearly impossible Even if the hardware in your PC is a good match in terms of reducing bottlenecks, what software and games are you running Does the software use all the cores on the CPU, does it take advantage of the features of your graphics card. Something has to be the weakest point in the entire system but you attempt to reduce it
Ive found that the bottleneck calculator isnt always the best tool. For example, it says there is a CPU bottleneck of 32% when the 7800X3D is paired up with a 4080 when it is widely accepted that the 7800X3D is the best gaming CPU at the moment. Im not sure what it is but the calculator seems like it might go off of manufacturer-provided numbers rather than IRL performance.
Yeah that bottleneck calculator doesnt make much sense to me its says the i9 10900k has a 25% bottle neck and its one of the fastest cpus that came out at the time that the 3080 did
You need to check the settings of the calculation. It will likely have used a lower resolution than the GPU is meant for (e.g. 1080p). In this case the GPU would be able to allow such a high frame rate that even a super fast CPU cant cope with, which will result in a CPU bottleneck. It will probably drop to 0-5% when you change the setting to 2k or 4k. It is important to remember this is a calculation. In reality, with games that have a cap on frame rates, neither your cpu nor your gpu will be a bottleneck on 1080p. They will just not have to work that hard
@@HelpMyCatHasNoHairLate, but, you don't actually need to since it's all common sense. You can pair anything above a Ryzen 5 CPU with any GPU from thr 1660 upwards and it won't have what he calls a bottleneck. For a beginner my suggestion is to go for a Ryzen 7 5800X, a future proof CPU with 8 cores, and the 3060 or preferably a 3070 since the 40 series is extremely expensive and not really worth your money. I have the same GPU and CPU combo and it works very well.
The word "bottleneck" already describes it, as the neck of a bottle is usually smaller than the bottle itself (smaller crossection), so it slows down the flow of whatever is in the botle to the outside or vice versa.
in summary - if your GPU is wayyyy better than your CPU then your CPU is holding back your GPU from unlocking its true potential The same could be said if you don't have sufficent RAM
Or fast enough RAM. If you’re mainly gaming, as long as you have 16GB (definitely Dual or Quad Channel unless DDR5 then it doesn’t matter), RAM capacity isn’t much of an issue past that point, like I bet a rig with a 4070, Ryzen 5 7600, and 16GB of 6000Mhz CL30 outperforms a rig with the same 4070 paired with a Ryzen 7 5800X and 32GB of 3200Mhz
@@drew2626bro so you mean IT doesn't make a difference if DDR5 16 gb is a dual channel? Even single DDR 5 16gb Ram will give the same performance as dual channel?
@@burgessw.9064 basically yes, because of architectural changes. LTT has several good videos on DDR5 and at least one shows having 2x16 DDR5 provides little difference over 1X32
@@Siter it will because let's say you use a bad CPU and a good GPU the utilisation would be CPU - 100% GPU - 60% this decreasing the performance of the GPU when the GPU could've reached 100% utilisation if it was paired with a good CPU
One thing to think about is that a gpu bottleneck will probably be better than a cpu bottleneck, since this will allow your cpu to have resources available to do stuff in the background like record or run mod software. I have a 7900x with a 4070, and the 4070 can’t quite keep up with the 7900x, which leaves me always at 99-100% gpu utilization, but I have no problem with that, as I still get a ton of performance and my clips are never ever laggy
@@jibrilherrcherofhorny4448 oh I’m sure it does, but when it’s at 100% utilization on a game even a very good graphics card doesn’t have the resources left to encode a clip
@@jibrilherrcherofhorny4448 and I can say from experience that that doesn’t work incredibly well. My clips were laggier when GPU encoded than CPU encoded. I would have left it GPU encoded if it was fine, but it was not
Watched this for entertainment and gotta say, you explained bottleneck better than i could. I do want to tell my own opinion on ballancing parts. I made my pc during corona and getting gpu then was hell and i wanted to make sure that upgrading in future could be easy and cheaper, due to this reason i got ryzen 7 3700x and paired it with gtx 1050 ti. Reason for this choice was that if i ever want to upgrade i would just need to focus on gpu and not worry about getting new cpu. As far as my knowledge goes bottleneck wont damage components and replacing gpu is on my opinion easier than replacing cpu.
I figured this out just in time, I have a Ryzen 7 5700G and thought it would be a good idea to get a rx 6950 xt, however turns out it would have a 30% bottleneck. So instead I got the rx 6750 xt which honestly still runs everything I can think of at max on 1080p with only a 2.6% cpu bottleneck. Definitely an important thing to think of when you upgrade stuff.
I have a CPU bottleneck, and I’m going to upgrade my GPU. The very first GPU that I said “Yes, okay this one is it” to, I used this website, and I was so relieved to see that they were balanced.
@@TheHammerGuy94 Not so. I based my display upon my GPUs capabilities. Why would you base your GPU around your monitor when the monitor is the cheaper and more easily replaced component? That's silly. I'm not gonna deprive myself of a high-end graphics card because I have a cheap monitor.
If you build a PC and you want upgrade it later - I do recommend buying more perfomant CPU. You definetely not want to express that pain when you need to upgrade your CPU.
if youre a beginner its always good to have your cpu be the best of those 3 since its harder to replace and might require changing the mother board which means basically disassembling your whole pc. It also means that if you stop caring about games as much in a few years your pc is still gonna be a good work pc since that is the most important part for that purpose unless you deal with renders.
Basically this, you are assigned into a 3 member project group, one of the members is just laying around, eating Cheetos while you and your other buddy are working on the budget. The effects are basically reduced group performance.
My bottleneck was a 2011 500gb laptop hardrive. I realized this to be true when I noticed my brothers pos rig I built him was faster than mine. Only took 4 yrs for me to upgrade (:
Didn't know DDR5 is around since Core2Duo days. CPU, GPU, RAM + SSD I would say that RAM is most unlikely the bottleneck as long as it's enough, but if it's 4000-5000 or 6000, that's not really a bottleneck
Another way to describe it is lets say you build a rope bridge that is made up of wooden pegs at each end, rope, and wood planks on the actual bridge. If the wood pegs are made of twigs it doesn't matter if the rope is space grade cable and the wood planks are graded for 20k pounds it's the pegs that will cause the bridge to collapse. Those weak pegs are the weak CPU, GPU, or RAM and the rope and planks are the good components
These Days SSD vs Harddisk is also playing an important role in gaming. playing game like Valorant installed on HDD vs SSD gave a lot of different experiences.
Very good explanation but I like to think of it as every component in your system has the potential to be a bottleneck. It can be as extreme as using a not enough wattage to just barely reaching your required PSU wattage requirements. Which can cause system shutdown under load, the computer not to turn on at all, lower performance of your existing hardware by limiting power draw or in extreme cases like the Gigabyte PSU situation an explosion.
Imagine one component being a bottle and another being water. The bottle can only hold so much of the water. A bottleneck is when the “water” component is held back by the size of the metaphorical bottle. There is more water, but there isnt enough space in the bottle to hold it.
Here's what I do. Look at task manager to see what's being used the most. If RAM is at 80%, upgrade it. If CPU peaks at 100%, upgrade it. It's not that complicated
For those that wonder which component usually is the bottleneck I would personally say it’s the CPU. If you have a strong CPU you can always turn down the graphics, but it doesn’t work the other way around. Also if you look at the most popular games ”cs go, league of legends, fornite, minecraft etc.” These are not really graphics intense games so you will overall see alot more value from a CPU upgrade than a GPU upgrade.
@@officialteaincorporated243 i would say that even in graphics intense games such as CoD Warzone or Battlefield, large open map games usually will be bottlenecked by CPU over GPU.
@@blerimelshani3503 No, GPU bottleneck is almost always the issue. An i3 4170 with a 3090 will perform games much better than an i9 13900k with a gt710 will. Warzone and battlefield are titles with similar performance limitations to esports titles and are barely graphically intensive, that is why they are cpu bottlenecked. Look at any other genre and you'll see gpu bottlenecks across the board.
@@officialteaincorporated243 GPU bottleneck is almost never the issue if you are trying to achieve higher framerate (which is almost always the biggest improvement for gameplay quality). Its better with a shitty looking game that runs snoothly, than the other way around. I listed the worlds most popular games and none of them are GPU bottleneck. You can just search on google and see a bunch of articles that/forum threads that support this aswell.
A few years ago my video card broke and I replaced it with a cheap GT 1030 for like 60 bucks because that was all I could afford that instant. My computer wasn't even that great - i7-4790 and 16GB DDR3@799 - but that video card bottlenecked the hell out of my system. I ended up overclocking the hell out of that poor half width single slot passively cooled card, timed it down to the exact single Megahertz on both GPU and RAM speed to where it was perfectly stable, just a smidge higher on any setting and it would crash ~50 minutes down the line. It's amazing how much performance overclocking can unlock if you're overclocking the part that's bottlenecking you, every smidge of extra performance actually got me more FPS. I ended up getting FarCry 4 from 24-28 FPS to 45-55 and played through the whole game like that. Overclocking nothing but the GPU! It's insane what that cute little card could push with some overclocking, and I ended up donating it to an old office PC that really needed an upgrade to run Rocket League. Still going strong!
There are a few error in the video. First the HDD/SSD can also bottleneck. If it is too slow, the game stutters or assets won't load in. Second RAM has MT/s (Megatransfers per second) not Mhz. DDR5 RAM with 6000MT/s actually runs only with 375Mhz. Each Generation doubles the transfers but not the Mhz of the RAM itself. With DDR5 we are at 8x Speed. DDR also means Double Data Rate, so we have to double the 8x again to get the 6000MT/s. It is 375x8x2=6000. DDR4 was 4x. And yes its complicated.
never forget storage. nobody , absolutely nobody talks about an old storage unit slowing down the entire computer. i personally have extreme stutters in any game with a 1660 super just becouse my hdd is old and slow
Honestly couldn’t have explained it better. I’ll definitely send this to my friends when they get confused.
It’s still a pretty big oversimplification. It leaves out the fact that a super slow CPU won’t bottleneck a very fast gpu if you’re doing something that doesn’t need much CPU relative to GPU (like gaming at 8 or 16K resolution). Bottleneck calculators are almost useless because they spit out an arbitrary number that doesn’t really mean anything. 70% bottleneck? Based on what? What is the computer doing? Not every application uses the system in the same way. You will always have a bottleneck because there will always be a part that is being used more heavily than the others. Obviously this doesn’t mean that system balance is useless. It’s generally a good idea to match components of a similar year and product tier. But an i9 13900k will bottleneck a 4090 just like an i3 12100F if you’re only playing at 1080p. And a 4090 will bottleneck an i3 9100F just the same as it will an i9 13900K if you’re playing at 8K.
@@HowlingMoaimost people are gaming where all those components are very important
@@HowlingMoaihe also got played by a bot account. "User-a.bunch.of.random.numbers" are trolls and bots.
@@HowlingMoai ok unless youre gaming on a legitimate television how the fuck are you using 8k i cannot find a 8k monitor beloe 3k usd, thats literally like a super high end cpu gpu and ram combined FOR A MONITOR, i didnt even look at 16k to not have a heart attack
1 sentence can group up his whole video, a chain is only as strong as it’s weakest link.
ah yes, slamming a 4090 in a core 2 duo pc from late 2000s feels good
😂
Plz what is a great combo for rtx 3060ti
@@GHOST_THE_ANTI_FURRYS_MEMEBER13900k
@@GHOST_THE_ANTI_FURRYS_MEMEBERgo for i5 12400F or ryzen 5 5600X they are best combo for 3060ti they will not bottleneck
@@reaperleviathan582 ok thanks man
SSDs can be thrown into this list too. Some games like to chunk load. Doesn't matter how fast your other components are. You'll get a frametime spike upon loading a new chunk.
You can also throw in monitor, mouse, tbh all the parts need *some* balancing on budget.
Well. Maybe not the case/purely aesthetic things
Loading chunks ftw
As long as you're not getting bottom of the barrel SSDs this won't bottleneck 99% of systems
No. That's not how it works.
Games are made for HDD due to its higher market share. SSD hardly improves anything else aside from about 2x-3x faster loading maximum (in spite being up to 50x faster than HDD). It will not help with stutters or frametime in 99% of the games out there.
@@cunnyman that's why I said "some games like to chunk load". I didn't say its 100% necessary to have a good ssd, lest your game experience suck scrote.
Bottleneck is basically someone holding u back in that group project
How to explain a bottleneck with only a few words 😂
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I think this is a very good explanation, but I think it's also important to mention that bottlenecks will vary depending on whether the game is GPU heavy or CPU heavy, which can mean that a bottleneck may not be a huge issue if the bottlenecked component isn't being utilised fully anyway.
Another extremely important thing to know is that EVERY PC has a bottle neck somewhere.
You forgot about resolution
@@TonkarzOfSolSystemCan you explain why ? I'm begginer in PC
@@fuzeteaFzt well technically there's always something holding something else back, but if the pairing is fairly good, then the bottleneck will be minimal. For example, my laptop (R7 5800H CPU/RTX 3070 Mobile GPU) has a bottleneck of like 3% on the GPU, so technically if that GPU was paired with a far more powerful CPU, you could potentially squeeze out that extra 3%. The thing is, none of these components are meant to 'go together' and work perfectly, so technically that's fine. Plus, the overall 'power' or performance is technically a bottleneck to a certain performance, even if the components are well matched (i.e. the components may not be limiting each other, but the computer can only perform so well so technically the PC specs themselves are the bottleneck).
@@fuzeteaFzt if you dont have a bottleneck that means EVERYTHING is running at 100% all the time, which is nearly impossible
Even if the hardware in your PC is a good match in terms of reducing bottlenecks, what software and games are you running
Does the software use all the cores on the CPU, does it take advantage of the features of your graphics card.
Something has to be the weakest point in the entire system but you attempt to reduce it
Very well explained. I already knew what bottlenecking was, but this was still a great explanation 👍
So thats why my low end laptop was so slow till i upgraded it from 4gb ram to 12gb ram.
Thx so much my parents are interested in buying us a pc for the first time recently, this really helps me alot, specially the calc part.
Actually a very good explanation. Some people just make it complicated than it is
Last bottleneck: loading times, running on a regular mechanical hard drive, it's heresy in a time where a single game can weight more than 100GB.
Ive found that the bottleneck calculator isnt always the best tool. For example, it says there is a CPU bottleneck of 32% when the 7800X3D is paired up with a 4080 when it is widely accepted that the 7800X3D is the best gaming CPU at the moment. Im not sure what it is but the calculator seems like it might go off of manufacturer-provided numbers rather than IRL performance.
I put i7-6700k and rtx 3060 with 12gb of vram and it said 0.0% bottleneck💀
Yeah that bottleneck calculator doesnt make much sense to me its says the i9 10900k has a 25% bottle neck and its one of the fastest cpus that came out at the time that the 3080 did
I got a 0% with rtx 3080 and ryzen 7 5800x
I got 0,0% with 13700 and 4070ti
You need to check the settings of the calculation. It will likely have used a lower resolution than the GPU is meant for (e.g. 1080p). In this case the GPU would be able to allow such a high frame rate that even a super fast CPU cant cope with, which will result in a CPU bottleneck. It will probably drop to 0-5% when you change the setting to 2k or 4k.
It is important to remember this is a calculation. In reality, with games that have a cap on frame rates, neither your cpu nor your gpu will be a bottleneck on 1080p. They will just not have to work that hard
It was all fine until you mentioned the calculator 💀
For real, that web its insanely bad, its stupid it doesnt work
How would you recommend finding out your bottleneck?
@@HelpMyCatHasNoHairLate, but, you don't actually need to since it's all common sense. You can pair anything above a Ryzen 5 CPU with any GPU from thr 1660 upwards and it won't have what he calls a bottleneck. For a beginner my suggestion is to go for a Ryzen 7 5800X, a future proof CPU with 8 cores, and the 3060 or preferably a 3070 since the 40 series is extremely expensive and not really worth your money. I have the same GPU and CPU combo and it works very well.
so i have a ryzen 7 7800x3d with a rx 7800 xt and it says my cpu is weak for gpu should i worry?@@kingswood9064
@@kingswood9064 Why 3060?
As someone who has an RTX 4090 combined with a Pentium III and 128 MBs of RAM, I can confirm this is true
300mhz ram to be precise 😂
Very powerful pc must've run the calculator over 100 fps in 8k
You have been helping a lot lately. I just bought my first gaming pc. Thank man, keep it up
The word "bottleneck" already describes it, as the neck of a bottle is usually smaller than the bottle itself (smaller crossection), so it slows down the flow of whatever is in the botle to the outside or vice versa.
He explained it so SO well! He had my full attention! Props to you 😅
I work in IT and I couldn't have explained this better. Great stuff Zach
"A bottleneck is when a component bottlenecks the performance". Thanks.
You are one of my favorite pc RUclipsrs
Remember that you will always have a bottleneck. You just need to keep it to a minimum
in summary -
if your GPU is wayyyy better than your CPU then your CPU is holding back your GPU from unlocking its true potential
The same could be said if you don't have sufficent RAM
Or fast enough RAM. If you’re mainly gaming, as long as you have 16GB (definitely Dual or Quad Channel unless DDR5 then it doesn’t matter), RAM capacity isn’t much of an issue past that point, like I bet a rig with a 4070, Ryzen 5 7600, and 16GB of 6000Mhz CL30 outperforms a rig with the same 4070 paired with a Ryzen 7 5800X and 32GB of 3200Mhz
@@drew2626bro so you mean IT doesn't make a difference if DDR5 16 gb is a dual channel? Even single DDR 5 16gb Ram will give the same performance as dual channel?
@@burgessw.9064 basically yes, because of architectural changes. LTT has several good videos on DDR5 and at least one shows having 2x16 DDR5 provides little difference over 1X32
This is a myth, if cpu is bad, it will decrease fps, but it won't decrease performance of gpu
@@Siter it will because let's say you use a bad CPU and a good GPU the utilisation would be
CPU - 100%
GPU - 60%
this decreasing the performance of the GPU when the GPU could've reached 100% utilisation if it was paired with a good CPU
Well said bro
In broad strokes this is correct. In reality gamer discussions of hardware performance has entered the realm of the audiophile for the most part.
Its basicley that phrase, "Your only as strong as your weakest link"
One thing to think about is that a gpu bottleneck will probably be better than a cpu bottleneck, since this will allow your cpu to have resources available to do stuff in the background like record or run mod software. I have a 7900x with a 4070, and the 4070 can’t quite keep up with the 7900x, which leaves me always at 99-100% gpu utilization, but I have no problem with that, as I still get a ton of performance and my clips are never ever laggy
Well the Nvidia has the best recording and streaming capabilities for the last 6 years so I hope the 4070 make good clip
@@jibrilherrcherofhorny4448 oh I’m sure it does, but when it’s at 100% utilization on a game even a very good graphics card doesn’t have the resources left to encode a clip
@@CrimsonFangTV that where Nvidia does well they have dedicated hardware one the chip so yes even at 100 it can record
@@jibrilherrcherofhorny4448 and I can say from experience that that doesn’t work incredibly well. My clips were laggier when GPU encoded than CPU encoded. I would have left it GPU encoded if it was fine, but it was not
@@CrimsonFangTVwait so can you make nvidia geforce clip using the cpu? If so how please lmk
PC part picker is really good to. It will tell you any issues you may encounter when selecting parts and even give you recommendations on fixing it.
Watched this for entertainment and gotta say, you explained bottleneck better than i could.
I do want to tell my own opinion on ballancing parts. I made my pc during corona and getting gpu then was hell and i wanted to make sure that upgrading in future could be easy and cheaper, due to this reason i got ryzen 7 3700x and paired it with gtx 1050 ti. Reason for this choice was that if i ever want to upgrade i would just need to focus on gpu and not worry about getting new cpu. As far as my knowledge goes bottleneck wont damage components and replacing gpu is on my opinion easier than replacing cpu.
I figured this out just in time, I have a Ryzen 7 5700G and thought it would be a good idea to get a rx 6950 xt, however turns out it would have a 30% bottleneck. So instead I got the rx 6750 xt which honestly still runs everything I can think of at max on 1080p with only a 2.6% cpu bottleneck. Definitely an important thing to think of when you upgrade stuff.
I also have a Ryzen 7 5700G but im still getting a 6900xt just because i want to upgrade my CPU once Amd releases new AM4 Cpus.
i needed this! when i build a new PC, i will make sure i get my bottle neck level below 5%
Thank you for this short, valuable yet very precise explanation. ❤️👍🏻
I have a CPU bottleneck, and I’m going to upgrade my GPU. The very first GPU that I said “Yes, okay this one is it” to, I used this website, and I was so relieved to see that they were balanced.
Bottleneck calculators are complete bs
2 generations-old i3 is always enough to run gpu at 100%.
i can’t believe so many people haven’t just heard the term bottleneck before lol
everyone always forgets the monitor in this equation.
usually you base your GPU needs around your display.
@@TheHammerGuy94 Not so. I based my display upon my GPUs capabilities. Why would you base your GPU around your monitor when the monitor is the cheaper and more easily replaced component? That's silly. I'm not gonna deprive myself of a high-end graphics card because I have a cheap monitor.
Hey Zach! Love all your videos and thank you for your service!
*"It's like doing a school group project together. Some sluggish people holding the group back"*
Overhere at my pc, everything is the bottleneck
If you build a PC and you want upgrade it later - I do recommend buying more perfomant CPU.
You definetely not want to express that pain when you need to upgrade your CPU.
Love to see Spiderman having a tech hobby
That diagram makes me think of Blood Clots when someone has a stroke, so, you could also say that the bottleneck is like a Blood Clot.
Pc builds is such an incredibly useful website
I am a beginner , I didn't know bottleneck calculators exists till now
It’s like driving behind a slow driver, you have no choice but to match their speed even though you can be much faster.
Bottleneck = A chain is as strong as its weakest link
people always ignore the importance of motherboards too
It's kinda like a group project that one kid that does nothing will slow the group down
if youre a beginner its always good to have your cpu be the best of those 3 since its harder to replace and might require changing the mother board which means basically disassembling your whole pc. It also means that if you stop caring about games as much in a few years your pc is still gonna be a good work pc since that is the most important part for that purpose unless you deal with renders.
Xeon X5492 with 5Ghz overclock:😎
My Rtx 2060 6Gb:🤨
It's like having a chain rated for 2k pounds then hooking it up to a chain with rated for 10 pounds of corse the 10 pound chain is holding you back
the power source laughs in the corner, if the power is weak all die
Surprisingly my hdd is the bottleneck, at least in msfs when my game freezes as the hard drive has to download scenery from the cloud.
Basically this, you are assigned into a 3 member project group, one of the members is just laying around, eating Cheetos while you and your other buddy are working on the budget.
The effects are basically reduced group performance.
its like doing a group assessment.
* literally every pc with a disc drive leaves the chat *
wait what now
My cpu from 2011, ddr 3, and my rtx 2060 in a computer together: hmmm interesting
My bottleneck was a 2011 500gb laptop hardrive. I realized this to be true when I noticed my brothers pos rig I built him was faster than mine. Only took 4 yrs for me to upgrade (:
I'm too poor but when I get the money I'll order one then build my own and see the difference 😅
I'm planning on switching to console from PC. Sick and tired of lazy companies' shitty optimizations and low life for mid-end range.
I just used the calculator on the build I chose parts for myself and it showed %0.0 bottleneck so I'm happy
You Expected It Perfectly!
4070 with a core duo would be a funny video I’d watch ! 😂
Didn't know DDR5 is around since Core2Duo days.
CPU, GPU, RAM + SSD
I would say that RAM is most unlikely the bottleneck as long as it's enough, but if it's 4000-5000 or 6000, that's not really a bottleneck
Turns out that website is bad, but another was able to provide me with everything i needed to know my system is well-balanced for what it is
Three main components, and also only hard drives with IDE connector
in short, bottlenecking is when the cpu is faster for the gpu to keep up or the opposite
You will always have some part causing bottleneck depending on load. But keep giving these gen Z computer build advices
The SSD: Imma a joke to you?
Now there's 4th one.
The storage, some games required ssd
Performance comes down to 3 components:
System Fan 3, Ziptie 12, rubber pad on case foot 4
It's better to be GPU bottlenecked, since being CPU bottlenecked impacts not only your gaming performance, but also other background tasks
The fact a 3800x and a 2070 super cant run new games at 1080p that well is making me depressed.
There is a bottleneck calculator, best thing I can ask for 🤝
Less than a minute ago I was explaining to my little bro what a bottleneck is!
From chemistry class i remember this example when learning gases
When you walk with your grandmother she is slower so you walk slower with her
Priceless "😁" emoji...
(Hey that bottleneck calculator worked for me!)
My pc’s bottleneck is crazy (ryzen 5600x, rtx 3050, 32gb ddr4
Another way to describe it is lets say you build a rope bridge that is made up of wooden pegs at each end, rope, and wood planks on the actual bridge. If the wood pegs are made of twigs it doesn't matter if the rope is space grade cable and the wood planks are graded for 20k pounds it's the pegs that will cause the bridge to collapse. Those weak pegs are the weak CPU, GPU, or RAM and the rope and planks are the good components
thank youuuuu sooo much you have no idea how much you just helped me
I wish I knew this in 2019 when I built my first (and current) PC. 😅
That bottleneck calculator is full of crap.
These Days SSD vs Harddisk is also playing an important role in gaming. playing game like Valorant installed on HDD vs SSD gave a lot of different experiences.
Ooh, the whole parts gets held back to the slowest part's speed. Gotcha.
Very good explanation but I like to think of it as every component in your system has the potential to be a bottleneck. It can be as extreme as using a not enough wattage to just barely reaching your required PSU wattage requirements. Which can cause system shutdown under load, the computer not to turn on at all, lower performance of your existing hardware by limiting power draw or in extreme cases like the Gigabyte PSU situation an explosion.
mother should be added in the list too
I would add rom to that list as well. Slower SSDs and HHDs will also affect game quality and visuals. Among other things.
Some bottleneck calculators say a Core 2 Quad is the pick of a GTX 1070.
"It's when one of your components can't keep it up with the rest."
Could have taken 2 seconds.
Thankyou for this it was needed most
Imagine one component being a bottle and another being water. The bottle can only hold so much of the water. A bottleneck is when the “water” component is held back by the size of the metaphorical bottle. There is more water, but there isnt enough space in the bottle to hold it.
"You're only as strong as your weakest link."
Here's what I do. Look at task manager to see what's being used the most. If RAM is at 80%, upgrade it. If CPU peaks at 100%, upgrade it. It's not that complicated
I just learned that my 3050 will have 12.8% bottleneck with my 12400😢
You are getting everything from gpu just cpu is too strong don't worry it won't affect your performance.
Good thing that is too strong because you will have an upgrade path.(you can get a better gpu without changing cpu)
@@Aegie thanks
Your frame times will be much better with a GPU bottleneck, resulting in way less stutters and hitches in your gameplay
@@riboiman4005 please explain id understand
For those that wonder which component usually is the bottleneck I would personally say it’s the CPU. If you have a strong CPU you can always turn down the graphics, but it doesn’t work the other way around. Also if you look at the most popular games ”cs go, league of legends, fornite, minecraft etc.” These are not really graphics intense games so you will overall see alot more value from a CPU upgrade than a GPU upgrade.
This is true. I saw a massive improvement (sometimes 2x) going from a 1500X to a 5600, compared to my GPU upgrade
No, gpu is usually the bottleneck. You are only looking at certain games
@@officialteaincorporated243 i would say that even in graphics intense games such as CoD Warzone or Battlefield, large open map games usually will be bottlenecked by CPU over GPU.
@@blerimelshani3503 No, GPU bottleneck is almost always the issue. An i3 4170 with a 3090 will perform games much better than an i9 13900k with a gt710 will.
Warzone and battlefield are titles with similar performance limitations to esports titles and are barely graphically intensive, that is why they are cpu bottlenecked. Look at any other genre and you'll see gpu bottlenecks across the board.
@@officialteaincorporated243 GPU bottleneck is almost never the issue if you are trying to achieve higher framerate (which is almost always the biggest improvement for gameplay quality). Its better with a shitty looking game that runs snoothly, than the other way around. I listed the worlds most popular games and none of them are GPU bottleneck. You can just search on google and see a bunch of articles that/forum threads that support this aswell.
CPU cooler be like aight fam, here's your 300MHz i9-13900k, next time don't forget me.
Bro really paired a core 2 duo with 4070 ti 😂🤣
A few years ago my video card broke and I replaced it with a cheap GT 1030 for like 60 bucks because that was all I could afford that instant. My computer wasn't even that great - i7-4790 and 16GB DDR3@799 - but that video card bottlenecked the hell out of my system. I ended up overclocking the hell out of that poor half width single slot passively cooled card, timed it down to the exact single Megahertz on both GPU and RAM speed to where it was perfectly stable, just a smidge higher on any setting and it would crash ~50 minutes down the line. It's amazing how much performance overclocking can unlock if you're overclocking the part that's bottlenecking you, every smidge of extra performance actually got me more FPS. I ended up getting FarCry 4 from 24-28 FPS to 45-55 and played through the whole game like that. Overclocking nothing but the GPU! It's insane what that cute little card could push with some overclocking, and I ended up donating it to an old office PC that really needed an upgrade to run Rocket League. Still going strong!
I think your motherboard's bus speed can also play a role
dont ever use a bottleneck calculator
Yeah probably the best advice for building a pc
um why?
@@tuonghoangduy2254cuz they're trash and bottleneck varies from game to game. There's no specific measure as on CPU1 bottlenecks GPU1 by 13%.
ok, so now how do I know if there will be a bottleneck before I buy
@@tuonghoangduy2254 I tried it and looks i need an i9 13th gen to handle the rtx 4080 in 2k lol
There are a few error in the video.
First the HDD/SSD can also bottleneck. If it is too slow, the game stutters or assets won't load in.
Second RAM has MT/s (Megatransfers per second) not Mhz.
DDR5 RAM with 6000MT/s actually runs only with 375Mhz. Each Generation doubles the transfers but not the Mhz of the RAM itself.
With DDR5 we are at 8x Speed. DDR also means Double Data Rate, so we have to double the 8x again to get the 6000MT/s. It is 375x8x2=6000. DDR4 was 4x. And yes its complicated.
never forget storage. nobody , absolutely nobody talks about an old storage unit slowing down the entire computer. i personally have extreme stutters in any game with a 1660 super just becouse my hdd is old and slow