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It's important to note, that even if hema is historically accurate, doesn't mean it's the best martial art, shad from shadiverity has talked about it alot in hes hema videos. Now don't get me wrong, hema is good matrial arts, but there are still better out there, and shad talks about how you can ad different technices from other martial arts to improve your own martial arts, cause even if hema works for most people doesn't mean it works for everyone.
I used to be heart broken that Arabian martial arts have gone extinct. learning that HEMA exists inspired me to see if we have any surviving manuscripts left. it turns out we actually have a lot. If it wasn't for HEMA and this channel I might have never began the long process of reconstructing historical arabian martial arts.
Okay THIS is awesome, I didn't even know there was an Arab martial arts. I mean obviously they would have to have something, but I just presumed whatever they used was similar to neighboring regions or something, rather than their own thing.
@@shawnwolf5961 the arabs had a unique way of fighting but they also absorbed as much as possible from the people they fought against and they're allies
@AileDiablo Actually, you'll find that plenty of treatises cover everything from wrestling to dagger fighting to swordfighting to staff or polearm fighting. Some even cover fighting on horseback. They cover techniques going from longsword fighting straight into wrestling etc. It's just that nowadays, having a horse doesn't come that easy to city dwellers, and most people do HEMA in their spare time, so they skip the horse fighting part and focus on from one to a handful of weapons as their time, motivation and interests allow.
Sorry Matt, you're wrong, and you basically refuted yourself pretty early in the video because I'm now quite convinced Mech Arena is, in actual fact, the best martial art.
Even if you do not watch the whole video it is pretty damn obvious this is tongue in cheek lol. It never ceases to amaze me how quick people are to get offended or dislike.
@@scholagladiatoria yeahh the fact that you had need to put a disclaimer at the end is pretty lame. It's pretty obvious you're tongue in cheek, some people just can't put things into their proper context and get offended it's pretty sad.
@@scholagladiatoria I like that your advice about not just looking at the gotcha title from the last video directly applies here rofl, but you went even further by making more than half the video unapologetic. Much like the professor that is amused at how many people are really paying attention in class ROFL. The scary part is the points were valid and depending on your passion/current objectives, true for the most part in the current state of the armed martial arts world. Even if you were using it more tongue in cheek, the point about Mixed Martial Arts being a bit of a misnomer the way it is used today is by definition accurate (Martial but ignoring all force multipliers? odd). Cheers.
@AileDiablo Catch Wrestling began it's development during Queen Elizabeth time by combining the various folk style around england then sailing off to challenge everyone else in the world and were beating them. Judo ka had a low win rate against the wrestler about 2 out of 10 and the one that did win like Maeda and Kimura also practice Catch Wrestling. To think Europe didn't have a good Martial art system is crazy in hindsight today cause it was Europe that conquered the world not Asia.
HEMA is awesome in that most clubs allow sparring. Other styles either have minimal sparring or sparring only with weapons from their tradition. With HEMA I've seen tons of different weapon match ups. People even have fun trying to do something like 2 daggers vs a longsword. It's fun, but it also trains versatility. Not everyone will come at you (theoretically) with a weapon you're familiar with. You have to be adaptable and HEMA fosters that well!
There should be like a Venn diagram for people who like HEMA, lol, is the crossover for people with a wide variety of interest that converge into HEMA, you like antique arms, then learning Hema is a good option, you like martial arts, then hema is a good options, you are a history geek, then you might be into HEMA, etc etc.
The sad part is that we know the humor of this is going right over a lot of heads. As an aside, I've also heard some of these arguments used against trying to learn HEMA by a bunch of McDojo folks.
It’s hilarious because in his recent reply to Skallagrim, Matt said he hates it when people just see the title and instantly comment based off of it. Ironically, that’s exactly what has happened here and he’s drawn out both people who are sensitive about their martial art’s efficacy along with people who genuinely think HEMA is the best. Truly, one of the greatest trolls in the community of the sword imo.
Kudos to you - I love when people use humor and satire to make a point -great response to all the folks who are looking for the "best martial art." I once heard someone say that the best martial art is the one that you enjoy and want to devote your time and energy to learning. Keep up the good work and keep those videos coming - I learn so much from each one.
I can understand not getting the joke if it is a comment without a face behind it but COME ON. Matt is struggling to hold back laughter and so many of you are already disliking and posting offended comments before watching the end. To be fair, you shouldn’t even have to watch to the end to get the joke! If only they taught satire in school, if only…
WHERE? WHERE are the people who didnt get the joke. There are already dozens of pretencious comments of smartasses who are so much superior to the lowely peasent who didnt get the joke, yet there are no peasentwho didnt get the joke. The only thing more annoying than ignorance is self righteousness
Oh...it is a joke? But it is true though, Europe is powerful than anyone in the world, proven historically. So it means HEMA surely the best because it is proven historically and made by superior people. other martial arts are coming from losers, peoples who lost in western colonialism, lost in WW2...why bother learning martial arts developed by losers?
Wonderful video, Matt, thanks! I'm just getting started learning about HEMA. I do have a background in Chinese martial arts but quite frankly I've never been as excited about diving into a martial art as I am right now. And just yesterday I was feeling a bit sorry for myself because, although I live in a beautiful place, it's really quite remote. So I'd convinced myself there couldn't possibly be a HEMA group anywhere near me. Well, I was quite wrong! Turns out there is a group less than an hour's drive from here. The short of it is, I can't wait to start. Love all your videos, cheers!
Interesting fact, Sakuraba one of the greatest MMA fighters from Japan actually was a catch wrestling practitioner, he trained with some of the best catch wrestlers from England. Catch wrestling is HEMA.
I do enjoy the tongue-in-cheek but thorough analysis. I'd note that there's a difference between competition and martial training. Competition is all about the win, but sparring with an analytical training mindset is more conducive to both partners learning and growing. Whether it's drills and fundamentals or pure free-sparring, I would encourage that mindset in the pursuit of martial knowledge. Tournaments are fine; I just think there's that notable difference between martial arts in sports scenarios and martial arts as its own pursuit. Either way, students can still get what they want out of the experience as long as they develop themselves.
I like this method of selling HEMA. It comes across as "elite + welcome". My interpretation of this video is "we've got the good stuff... wanna learn?". Other videos felt more like, "we've got the good stuff... and that isn't it". It's just a small shift in frame, but the resulting feel is substantial. It's the difference between a club and a clique. Cliques are okay, but they just aren't as joinable for most people as a good old club.
I tend to agree with this, "communities" can turn me off of hobbies faster than anything, especially when a substantial amount of time is dedicated to explaining how people who enjoy said hobbies are doing it wrong...
He says at the end that this is a tongue in cheek video, but this is still a very informative video. Of course, many martial arts contain all these elements. The documentation in other martial arts, for example, exists just as much, but....in the language of the countries they come from. Some martial traditions, such as in Japan, divide aspects of fighting into separate "martial arts." The Samurai traditionally trained in a complete curriculum of martial arts. In China, by contrast, they were combined in each style. But the end result was traditionally the same.
Do you have any idea where I can get some eye of newt? I am practicing Historic European Medical Arts and so far the results are not as salubrious as the treatises promise.
Right now, I’d argue gunfighting takes the cake. Still evolving to this day, well documented throughout history (with video as well), and the most practical in the modern world (for us New Worlders). It’s also a martial art the has a huge focus on situational awareness that occurs not only during the fight but before and after. There’s the actual shooting portion of the art, and there’s also the tactics portion regarding room/building clearing and things like long range combat and maneuvering to the enemy. Medical (TCCC) is also a significant part of the art and is taught in many schools. (Somewhat akin to Chinese kung fu and their pain relief/medical portions).
Excellent argument, sir, and a most enjoyable entry! Now, whatever you do, don't look those who took you too seriously in the eye; they take it as a challenge.
@@scholagladiatoria WHERE??? I wanna laugh toooo. But there are none. The comment section is filled with people talking about people who didnt get the joke but NO actual people who didnt get the joke. Some people commenting about the comment section... before reading the comment section
@@paweandonisgawralidisdobrz2522 perhaps they deleted their comments after they understood the joke or maybe they were just drowned out by people like us. Either way it’d be great if you got here earlier to see them. Maybe then we could’ve laughed together…
Good stuff, Matt! I always recommend cross-training to broaden horizons. As I've mentioned before, my background is in Okinawan karate and kobudo. These arts are native to the Ryukyu Islands, of course, but I've branched out to Japanese and Chinese martial arts due to the regional exchange of concepts. It's afforded better understanding of that area of combat as a whole and certainly helped improve my practice. So naturally I started checking out other schools like Filipino kali and BJJ, which then led to capoeira. And now I have a nylon waster and a copy of Ringeck's Knightly Art of the Longsword. Studying multiple martial arts benefits us in the same manner as studying multiple languages.
As pointet out by lots of people in hema, NUANCE is important. a Thaiboxer (or any hand to hand combat technique practitioner for that matter) will be superior to a "normal" hema practitioner in a fistfight. he wont be when fighting with ANY weapon, but still, when fighting under those exact circumstances, wich his fighting technique is layed out for, he will. and that's the point. do whatever martial art you desire, and you will be a better fighter in general. Dont act like your martial art is the best. Personaly, i was in a lot more fistfights, than in fights with sharp weapons... Respect the fighting style of your opponent, if you dont want to loose. anyways, keep up the good work. i really like you and your work!
WHERE??? I wanna laugh toooo. But there are none. The comment section is filled with people talking about people who didnt get the joke but NO actual people who didnt get the joke.
I remember about the 1980s, there was a bunch of guys Clan Wallace I think who were reenactors as Highland Clansmen, they were mad, but definitely knew how to handle hand weapons. Lovely mad guys.
uh, well I was interested in starting HEMA, but my city only offers training with sabres and both the monthly payment and the protective gear was too expensive to me - so I went with boxing. Unless one learns specifically unarmed or knife-armed combat in HEMA, boxing is definitely superior for self-defence because you always carry your fists. Boxing also builds fitness quite well, though I don't know how good HEMA is at that in comparison.
So, HEMA must be from historical sources, i.e. written manuals, because 'H' is for 'History', unless it's non-European, in which case anything goes (ref. video _What is HISTORY? (and what is NOT HEMA?);_ ruclips.net/video/-YjFubZJJcs/видео.html )._ That's "E is for Europe" out the window, then, and "H is for History" doesn't escape without potentially mortal wounds, either. The treatises are mainly on dueling. 'Martial' means "related to war". Dueling isn't war. That's 'M' is for 'Martial' out the window. "A is for Arts" might seem to remain standing. However, just "Arts" would be more than a bit misleading, as it includes things like the works of Rembrandt, Mozart, and Shakespeare. Putting the wounded "History" in front doesn't improve things much. We're then left with "Sort of Historical Sort of Arts". Seriously, you can't exclude archeology, but include kendo and wushu! It's a choice of one, the other, or be ridiculous. P.S.: I guess spear and shield in formation is saved, in part because of Socrates. He concluded emphatically that spear and shield in formation is the ultimate martial art, and that swords are for vain, short-lived braggarts. Of course, his main point was a moral and political one; good citizens stand together. Regardless, with Socrates separating out spear and shield as distinct from other martial arts, it'll take quite the authority to join them together again. Failing that, it'll take quite the authority to contradict Socrates on what is the ultimate martial art. P.P.S.: Yes, Socrates was a trained fighter, and took part in battle. He had a bit of a reputation for becoming distracted mid-battle, and instead falling into deep trains of thought, but he did participate, and survive, without being considered unskilled or cowardly.
I'd like to point out that HEMA is all about pictures of combat, but those pictures rarely have a good description of how we got there... Thus, whatever works will be used to reconstruct it. It may not be historical, but history plausible.
Hi all, and with great respect to everyone regarding HEMA and the teachings, I've come across HEMA 2 hours ago and are both intigued and confused with this system, intrigued because its new to me and a style of combat that has beem used for over 2000 plus years regarding what I would call real combat life and death combat (and I served in the British Infantry) and its transfer to street scenario's as we can not carry swords now in the modern world, are there any clubs that anyone knows of in the Hull area UK so I can learn more? Thanks in advance.
WHERE??? I wanna laugh toooo. But there are none. The comment section is filled with people talking about people who didnt get the joke but NO actual people who didnt get the joke
@@damasek219 i am and have found none that are funny people not getting the joke. Can you recall anything specific? Or are you perhaps imagining things
Great sales pitch, Matt. I was a bit surprised to hear you refer to HEMA as A single martial art. To me, that would be a bit like referring to all Japanese martial arts like karate, kendo, bushido, judo, jujitsu, etc etc collectively as THE Japanese martial art. I used to foil fence millenia ago in college, and now your videos are inspiring me to consider taking up something like HEMA saber fencing as a fun way to get and stay fit. I'll let you know how it goes, if I live through it 😏.
@AileDiablo Yeah, I'm not going to read all that. From what I skim read, your comment is rife with conjecture, historical inaccuracies, and typos. I get that you prefer Eastern MAs. That's fine and it is okay to like things. Just understand that your stated criticisms and beliefs about HEMA and history in general is inaccurate. Your comment has to be one of the greatest examples of the Dunning-Kruger effect I have ever witnessed.
So where are all the people who apparently didn't get the joke? Everyone seems to know that the video is "tongue in cheek" since everyone keeps saying that but I don't see all of the butthurt people taking things too seriously or commenting before actually watching the video.
@@shawnwolf5961 I did manage to find a few that were kinda bad I guess but when it became obvious that there were way more people complaining about the comments than actual hate comments I just stopped. You guys are overreacting.
I've seen that AileDiablo dude spamming his massively messy wall of text under multiple comments here at least 6 times (and his other non-copy/paste comments aren't much better tbh), but not much else aside from that.
A question here. If I was to compete in a hema competition would I be able to use a weapon like say tonfa or sai against a guy who use a long sword or spear? I'm not a martial artist of any kind just genuinely curious about hema.
so if hema is the best martial art, then hema practicioners are therefore the best martial artists in the world, that must mean left handed hema practicioners are the best of the best
Are there HEMA clubs that focus on grappling specifically, outside of the context of armed combat? As someone that trains in multiple grappling styles, I'd be interested in a HEMA perspective on wrestling.
Mine does 1/3 of pure grappling (generaly french or swiss grappling, there has been a bit of Glima), and I know that we have contact with a club that have a section that specilize in grappling.
@@koingzellkylar3175 That's interesting, I didn't think pure grappling factored into HEMA so much. Do you study / cross reference folk styles of wrestling like Kurash? Its interesting because all of these generally focus clothing based takedowns, unlike most of the modern sportive wrestling styles.
@@EfficientJudo It doesn't, we don't usually see that in other clubs that I have meet. Not really (but I am not the instructor and I have followed from quite far because I found french wrestling not very martial), we mainly focused on late source (1800-1900) where we doesn't use the outfit much. But our group is quite small and it's more or less, bring what you want to study.
There's an entire Ringen organization run by Jessica Finley that focuses on Medieval German Wrestling. Which is extremely similar to Judo. But that might be because Jessica Finley comes from a Judo background.
@@hailhydreigon2700 I think it is, as I've worked with her and much of what she does seems far too judo-like. But I've been doing Western Martial Arts for over 40 years, so can see things that many others may not. Just an opinion, please don't take it in any sense of criticism of Jess.
Now, you need to make the video why HEMA is the worst martial art: - Doesn't teach effective self-defense - High cost of entry - Limited regional accessibility - No instructional quality control - Low focus on athleticism
@@stevenscott2136 yeah, for sure. Better to think of it all as on a spectrum. And probably better to think of self-defense as its individual components and to look at those in detail, rather than thinking of it as one thing. In a way, it is a bit disappointing that it didn't receive the same theoretical study as you would have in major sports.
Hahaha you got me! I've been doing Muay Thai for years and I was like Bruh??? Really this cosplay stuff would be effective in a one v one hand-to-hand fight. LOL. But I watched to the end and then watched your other videos and realised if I had to use cold-arms, learning how to use sword and shied in armour would be the best way to go. Great trolling, as you say CONTEXT!!!
I'd love to see a review of Sicilian straight razor combat. It's very effective, as the RUclips videos show, plus it's particularly lurid and disgusting.
Technically and historically correct, that is why they became the major imperialist nations in world history, but the contemporary society needs contemporary technologies and paradigm
Hema includeds weapon based, unarmed, grappeling, and ranged marshellarts which other marshellarts does included sow many things. Kung fu does!!! Yeh the 1 marshellarts system 90% of people have forgoten about. Kung fu is a umbrela therm for bassicly all forms of ancient chinees marshellarts systems. It includes things like wushu, tai chi, wing chung, shaolin kung fu and chinees archery I don't know how that's called. There are over a 100 different Weapons that are included in the kung fu arsenal. From warweapons, to selfdefence weapons, to hidden weapons, to throwing weapons, to missile weapons, to improvised weapons and even training methodes to litterly forge your body into a weapon. I bet at the end kung fu will include more weapons to train with then hema. I practice both hema and kung fu and I think saying one marshellarts system is better then a other is first class bullsh*t. Every marshellarts has it strenghts as long as it isn't a fake marshellarts system that has litterly no science to back up what there doing works which marshellarts is better depends only and fully on the marshellartists. I used iron bone training to strenghten my bones till the point that I can slam them into hardend steel full strenght. How long do you think a just starting boxer will last against somebody who has fingers and hands sow though and strong that they can pierce flesh or chop bamboe using only there body. That fight wouldn't be a indication on which system is better now would it? I'm also not crazy I'm fully aware that a highly skilled boxer would also be able to do serieus damages against me. Hema has survived the test of time and sow has kung fu. We marshellartists shouldn't fight about which system is better we should try to learn from eachother and maby even practice eachother systems. The only time a marshellarts is superieur is if the marshellartist doing it is superieur. Also I don't think it's fair of you to take a mma system and compare it to single style systems like kendo of course a multiple style system will give you more options your trained to do more. If you would make that fair you pick one europeen fighting system like german longsword and pin that against a other single fighting system like kendo that would be fair. We shouldn't want feel elitist as marshellartists cause if you really cocky enough to think your the best know this. Every single person on the street thinks there the best fighters in the world, but the once walking around there that actuely are decent fighters don't think this cause they had there ego checked and discoverd that the aren't. I'm not the best fighter in the world, my skill is not the best in the world, I'm not the strongest nor the fastest person alive, I'm not the best at anything in marshellarts all I know is that I'm trained to get better at all those things and that's more then most can say.
The biggest argument I would make for HEMA is that human beings are biologically inclined toward tool-usage. We do not have natural "weapons" like a lion or bear, so we are most advantageous when equipped with a tool we are well trained with. HEMA obliges that natural inclination. Now having said that, I think we would be remiss as honest martial artists if we didn't acknowledge that there is still a difference between someone who trains boxing or grappling to complement their swordsmanship vs someone who is actually highly skilled in those specializations. I know there's no rule saying you can't be a great hand-to-hand fighter and still do HEMA, it's just important to be honest with oneself in that regard.
The thing about hema being the best is that actually using moves designed strictly for lethality or permanent disablement in the modern world would land you in jail even when used for self defense in most countries. Not to mention carrying any weapon not designed for sparring is also illegal in most places. Could hema possibly be the most effective martial art? yeah I could certainly see that, but I would argue something like judo is more suited for the modern world because of the "gentle" way it's possible to subdue opponents, although ringgit might spoil this whole argument I'm now realizing lol . Still all that being said I've already practiced joint locks and grappling, and I plan to start training hema at a longsword school near me soon because i think it would be the most fun.
There's also stuff like the Victorian Era cane/stick fighting combined with pugilism (bartitsu) that can be applied when you have a stick, cane, or umbrella to hand
While Matt was entirely shitposting, that is much of the problem with applying HEMA to modern contexts. American military knife/dagger and hand-to-hand combat actually still looks a lot like HEMA; civilian self-defense does not, in part due to expectations of average gear (armor, ammo and such on a soldier, mostly thin and fragile clothing in civilian) and due to differences in desired outcome (people often wanting to _not_ kill the other person, as you mentioned) in civilian contexts. That is a lot of the reason why knives are preferred in some places over more lethal daggers; social and legal repercussions.
@@NevisYsbryd I appreciate the non-seriousness of this video, I was just taking the opportunity to bring this up because i found it an interesting aspect to this discussion. That's pretty interesting as well though I didn't even consider comparing hema to modern military martial arts styles, pretty cool.
It's more fun. You start off with swords instead of ending up with them. Hand weapons are fun. It's not so much about tactical self defense as just enjoying combat as a historical interest.
I'd love to try it but I don't think I can afford it tbh. Even £20 or whatever for an hour and a half session is a bit much, assuming they provide gear for you to use. So we're talking up to £100 a week? It's a bit pricier than a gym membership to put it mildly. Then you have to factor in having to travel quite far just to find a HEMA club to train with. There doesn't seem to be a clear path to get into it without spending a ton of money. Also, if I bought the gear I have nobody to practice with, as it's not a popular martial art. I don't think using a longsword really has any practical applications in the real world either. Nobody should be carrying around bladed weapons.
the british starting a war what a surprise Now seriously good video i like how you expres about this martial art a lot of people don't think that this is good for the streets but the reality is Sword>>>>>>>>>fist
Uh Matt love you for making this argument but your reasoning is wrong, you never mentioned spadroons once. And the answer is: "spadroons" the sharpest, deadliest sword that discovered nuclear fission.
Strongly disagre. 1. it cowers everything, jack of all trades, master of none. 2. Many stuff was lost, and some is written in perspective of midcentury human, new area arts is better documented. U dont need balast to have good m.art, just clean and best stuff. 3.if it would cower everything, ewery good mma fighter would have background in hema. 3.2 "mma is sport that doesent alow surtaint things" as hema is sport that doesnt alow guns, sprays and some other things 3.3 i agree about boxing and wrestling are really good and have roots from old europe, but modern boxing nor wrestling arent hema. 4. Many other martial arts have it too, specially mma, thats why so many diferent backgrounds in world ring. And all martial arts do repetition by the book for muscle memory and have sparing after that. BJJ, JJ, MMA, boxing... 5. Subjective fact. And: it is fucking expensive gear, and if you do not have, it can go bad quickly, even with gear. Im not hating tho, have been your subscriber for quite some time, and sword enthusiast, but i did both, and i have to disagree with you. And I wil use your own words from many other videos: context!
Chinese martial arts have everything Hema has and more. Where HEMA falls short is the lack of "internal" power generation that is emphasized in the Chinese Internal martial arts. While there is some crossover, even in western boxing, it wasn't refined to the higher levels in the west, compared to what the Chinese Taoists had cultivated.
Man, there is so much hate in these comments. Great work trolling the mouth breathing basement dwellers that are experts in everything 'cause they played a video game. Slick Matt, keep it up! LOL. Seriously though, you've got me interested in Military saber and so I'm looking into getting a decent quality saber and a couple of manuals to train with. Thanks for the inspiration and all the knowledge you share. It's people like you that prove that humanity can be great. If I ever get the chance to come to the UK, my first stop will be the Wallace Collection, second will be to get a lesson or two from you. Stay the course and troll the keyboard warriors!
What other martial art covers unarmed, close combat weapons and missile combat? Well guns of course! Unarmed: Cooper’s first rule of gunfighting Close combat weapons: CQC, bayonet, instinctive/point shooting. Missile: Yes. It’s also well documented, arguably better so than HEMA. Plenty of surviving field manuals from the smoothbore days onto Fairbairn and Cooper’s foundation for the modern technique and beyond. (On a serious note, perhaps something on how Fairbairn’s techniques are rooted in HEMA?)
IIRC, Fairbairn used basics from quite a few different martial arts. That completely makes sense for a system to be used in life-or-death struggles on the mean streets.
TBH, Hema is less like a more familiar Asian martial art and more like MMA (I.e. martial artS). No surprise it is more comprehensive than say a particular Kenjutsu school, or even kenjutsu as a whole (literally the samurai, or samurai derivative, art of using the katana out of the scabbard specifically, and sometimes the wakizashi). It is kinda like comparing the concept of a citrus fruit to a passion fruit just because both are phrased with fruit in singular.
Instructor " Hey, mate, what's with the M-60 Machine Gun. " Well, you said other Martial Arts Styles are welcome in HEMA. What, you never heard of Rambo Fu?.
The satirical take is In regards to objective elitism, “HEMA is the best.” which isn’t actually being challenged... Yet the topic itself, is exclusionary elitism, “That isn’t real HEMA/go away LARPer.”
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It's important to note, that even if hema is historically accurate, doesn't mean it's the best martial art, shad from shadiverity has talked about it alot in hes hema videos.
Now don't get me wrong, hema is good matrial arts, but there are still better out there, and shad talks about how you can ad different technices from other martial arts to improve your own martial arts, cause even if hema works for most people doesn't mean it works for everyone.
meh🙄 better than Raid I suppose.
I used to be heart broken that Arabian martial arts have gone extinct. learning that HEMA exists inspired me to see if we have any surviving manuscripts left. it turns out we actually have a lot. If it wasn't for HEMA and this channel I might have never began the long process of reconstructing historical arabian martial arts.
Okay THIS is awesome, I didn't even know there was an Arab martial arts. I mean obviously they would have to have something, but I just presumed whatever they used was similar to neighboring regions or something, rather than their own thing.
@@shawnwolf5961 the arabs had a unique way of fighting but they also absorbed as much as possible from the people they fought against and they're allies
@@Thesandchief That is actually really neat! If you haven't already, you should get into traditional HEMA and bring the arab martial arts into it!
Have you shared any of your findings anywhere?? I'd love to see what Arab MA would look like
You should check Razmafzar on YT. Its persian martial arts not arab but i bet its the most complete middle eastern system you can find right now.
You forgot to mention that we also are the most humble martial artists ever.
That's true actually, we achieve the most but brag the least. True fact.
@@scholagladiatoria are you bragging about not bragging 🤣😂😉
Humble Ever so Martial Arts
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Actually, you'll find that plenty of treatises cover everything from wrestling to dagger fighting to swordfighting to staff or polearm fighting. Some even cover fighting on horseback. They cover techniques going from longsword fighting straight into wrestling etc.
It's just that nowadays, having a horse doesn't come that easy to city dwellers, and most people do HEMA in their spare time, so they skip the horse fighting part and focus on from one to a handful of weapons as their time, motivation and interests allow.
Sorry Matt, you're wrong, and you basically refuted yourself pretty early in the video because I'm now quite convinced Mech Arena is, in actual fact, the best martial art.
First funny comment.
I'm a master practitioner of the ChaCha Slide, and feel that the Mecharena is inferior.
The old ways are the best ways which is why raid shadow legends is the superior way
Even if you do not watch the whole video it is pretty damn obvious this is tongue in cheek lol. It never ceases to amaze me how quick people are to get offended or dislike.
I am not surprised, but I am amused :-)
Haha indeed.
@@scholagladiatoria yeahh the fact that you had need to put a disclaimer at the end is pretty lame. It's pretty obvious you're tongue in cheek, some people just can't put things into their proper context and get offended it's pretty sad.
@@scholagladiatoria I like that your advice about not just looking at the gotcha title from the last video directly applies here rofl, but you went even further by making more than half the video unapologetic. Much like the professor that is amused at how many people are really paying attention in class ROFL.
The scary part is the points were valid and depending on your passion/current objectives, true for the most part in the current state of the armed martial arts world. Even if you were using it more tongue in cheek, the point about Mixed Martial Arts being a bit of a misnomer the way it is used today is by definition accurate (Martial but ignoring all force multipliers? odd). Cheers.
@AileDiablo Catch Wrestling began it's development during Queen Elizabeth time by combining the various folk style around england then sailing off to challenge everyone else in the world and were beating them. Judo ka had a low win rate against the wrestler about 2 out of 10 and the one that did win like Maeda and Kimura also practice Catch Wrestling. To think Europe didn't have a good Martial art system is crazy in hindsight today cause it was Europe that conquered the world not Asia.
"can't you do something about your superiority complex?"
hema: "but I am superior"
I am just stating the fugging obvious
@@ianwinter514 +1 for the quote, +2 for acknowledging the recent renaming of fucking to fugging
hema: "...and other martial arts are cool as well" done.
HEMA is awesome in that most clubs allow sparring. Other styles either have minimal sparring or sparring only with weapons from their tradition. With HEMA I've seen tons of different weapon match ups. People even have fun trying to do something like 2 daggers vs a longsword. It's fun, but it also trains versatility. Not everyone will come at you (theoretically) with a weapon you're familiar with. You have to be adaptable and HEMA fosters that well!
There should be like a Venn diagram for people who like HEMA, lol, is the crossover for people with a wide variety of interest that converge into HEMA, you like antique arms, then learning Hema is a good option, you like martial arts, then hema is a good options, you are a history geek, then you might be into HEMA, etc etc.
Of course I agree, and after once spending over 30 hours analysing this, I concluded (correctly) that everyone should study HEMA.
Basically HEMA is the best
The sad part is that we know the humor of this is going right over a lot of heads.
As an aside, I've also heard some of these arguments used against trying to learn HEMA by a bunch of McDojo folks.
It’s hilarious because in his recent reply to Skallagrim, Matt said he hates it when people just see the title and instantly comment based off of it. Ironically, that’s exactly what has happened here and he’s drawn out both people who are sensitive about their martial art’s efficacy along with people who genuinely think HEMA is the best. Truly, one of the greatest trolls in the community of the sword imo.
I really disliked the video. Because, it went completely over my head. Thank you for explaining the tone.
Kudos to you - I love when people use humor and satire to make a point -great response to all the folks who are looking for the "best martial art." I once heard someone say that the best martial art is the one that you enjoy and want to devote your time and energy to learning. Keep up the good work and keep those videos coming - I learn so much from each one.
I can understand not getting the joke if it is a comment without a face behind it but COME ON. Matt is struggling to hold back laughter and so many of you are already disliking and posting offended comments before watching the end. To be fair, you shouldn’t even have to watch to the end to get the joke! If only they taught satire in school, if only…
WHERE? WHERE are the people who didnt get the joke. There are already dozens of pretencious comments of smartasses who are so much superior to the lowely peasent who didnt get the joke, yet there are no peasentwho didnt get the joke.
The only thing more annoying than ignorance is self righteousness
@@paweandonisgawralidisdobrz2522 idk man. Maybe get here before they delete their comments out of embarrassment 🤷♂️
@@outsideiskrrtinsideihurt699 that may be the case
Oh...it is a joke? But it is true though, Europe is powerful than anyone in the world, proven historically. So it means HEMA surely the best because it is proven historically and made by superior people. other martial arts are coming from losers, peoples who lost in western colonialism, lost in WW2...why bother learning martial arts developed by losers?
The problem with HEMA is the lack of training gyms.
you just pissed off all the katana weebs lol
They don't really exist on the internet anymore. It's just longsword memers ridiculing nonexistant katana weebs at this point.
@@ummonk I'm starting a cult of tachi weebs
@@ummonk
They're still out there. Just not as much and not on HEMA channels
@@ummonk You just have not spoken to 14-year olds for too long.
Wonderful video, Matt, thanks! I'm just getting started learning about HEMA. I do have a background in Chinese martial arts but quite frankly I've never been as excited about diving into a martial art as I am right now. And just yesterday I was feeling a bit sorry for myself because, although I live in a beautiful place, it's really quite remote. So I'd convinced myself there couldn't possibly be a HEMA group anywhere near me. Well, I was quite wrong! Turns out there is a group less than an hour's drive from here. The short of it is, I can't wait to start. Love all your videos, cheers!
Interesting fact, Sakuraba one of the greatest MMA fighters from Japan actually was a catch wrestling practitioner, he trained with some of the best catch wrestlers from England. Catch wrestling is HEMA.
And josh barnett
@@grailknight6794 There's quite a bit of catch influence spread all over the world.
You didn't mention 3- gun or even CAS ( Cowboy Action Shooting). That might be an extension of HEMA if you think about it
When I'm out of ammo , my m4 becomes a pole arm when my bayonet is attached.
I'm not sure if they even train bayonet work anymore in the usa , sadly .
@@karllambert2350 why would you let yourself run out of ammo? Poor preparation will get anyone killed
In college, our pistol team jokingly challenged the fencing team to a duel.
You know that the challenged party can pick the weapon?😉
Rest of the world:Do you believe your own hype that much?
HEMA peeps: I AM THE HYPE!
Wasn't expecting the TFS reference
I do enjoy the tongue-in-cheek but thorough analysis. I'd note that there's a difference between competition and martial training. Competition is all about the win, but sparring with an analytical training mindset is more conducive to both partners learning and growing. Whether it's drills and fundamentals or pure free-sparring, I would encourage that mindset in the pursuit of martial knowledge. Tournaments are fine; I just think there's that notable difference between martial arts in sports scenarios and martial arts as its own pursuit. Either way, students can still get what they want out of the experience as long as they develop themselves.
Great video haha definitely gave me a chuckle at work
I like this method of selling HEMA. It comes across as "elite + welcome".
My interpretation of this video is "we've got the good stuff... wanna learn?". Other videos felt more like, "we've got the good stuff... and that isn't it". It's just a small shift in frame, but the resulting feel is substantial. It's the difference between a club and a clique.
Cliques are okay, but they just aren't as joinable for most people as a good old club.
I tend to agree with this, "communities" can turn me off of hobbies faster than anything, especially when a substantial amount of time is dedicated to explaining how people who enjoy said hobbies are doing it wrong...
"We are elite, you could be too! Doesn't matter who ye be, come join us!"
@@LangstonDev I couldn’t have said it better. It’s almost never the hobby, artist, game etc. but rather the community that surrounds it
He says at the end that this is a tongue in cheek video, but this is still a very informative video. Of course, many martial arts contain all these elements. The documentation in other martial arts, for example, exists just as much, but....in the language of the countries they come from. Some martial traditions, such as in Japan, divide aspects of fighting into separate "martial arts." The Samurai traditionally trained in a complete curriculum of martial arts. In China, by contrast, they were combined in each style. But the end result was traditionally the same.
Do you have any idea where I can get some eye of newt? I am practicing Historic European Medical Arts and so far the results are not as salubrious as the treatises promise.
Right now, I’d argue gunfighting takes the cake. Still evolving to this day, well documented throughout history (with video as well), and the most practical in the modern world (for us New Worlders). It’s also a martial art the has a huge focus on situational awareness that occurs not only during the fight but before and after.
There’s the actual shooting portion of the art, and there’s also the tactics portion regarding room/building clearing and things like long range combat and maneuvering to the enemy.
Medical (TCCC) is also a significant part of the art and is taught in many schools. (Somewhat akin to Chinese kung fu and their pain relief/medical portions).
Excellent argument, sir, and a most enjoyable entry! Now, whatever you do, don't look those who took you too seriously in the eye; they take it as a challenge.
Damn, some people just can’t finish the video before commenting lmao
I'm actually finding it funny :-)
@@scholagladiatoria You trying to stifle laughter gives it away. :D Great work.
@@scholagladiatoria WHERE??? I wanna laugh toooo. But there are none. The comment section is filled with people talking about people who didnt get the joke but NO actual people who didnt get the joke.
Some people commenting about the comment section... before reading the comment section
@@paweandonisgawralidisdobrz2522 perhaps they deleted their comments after they understood the joke or maybe they were just drowned out by people like us. Either way it’d be great if you got here earlier to see them. Maybe then we could’ve laughed together…
Good stuff, Matt! I always recommend cross-training to broaden horizons. As I've mentioned before, my background is in Okinawan karate and kobudo. These arts are native to the Ryukyu Islands, of course, but I've branched out to Japanese and Chinese martial arts due to the regional exchange of concepts. It's afforded better understanding of that area of combat as a whole and certainly helped improve my practice.
So naturally I started checking out other schools like Filipino kali and BJJ, which then led to capoeira. And now I have a nylon waster and a copy of Ringeck's Knightly Art of the Longsword. Studying multiple martial arts benefits us in the same manner as studying multiple languages.
As pointet out by lots of people in hema, NUANCE is important. a Thaiboxer (or any hand to hand combat technique practitioner for that matter) will be superior to a "normal" hema practitioner in a fistfight. he wont be when fighting with ANY weapon, but still, when fighting under those exact circumstances, wich his fighting technique is layed out for, he will. and that's the point. do whatever martial art you desire, and you will be a better fighter in general. Dont act like your martial art is the best. Personaly, i was in a lot more fistfights, than in fights with sharp weapons... Respect the fighting style of your opponent, if you dont want to loose. anyways, keep up the good work. i really like you and your work!
It's very funny seeing people comments on a video they haven't watch and just talk based on the title. Never gets old
I know right ;-)
WHERE??? I wanna laugh toooo. But there are none. The comment section is filled with people talking about people who didnt get the joke but NO actual people who didnt get the joke.
@@paweandonisgawralidisdobrz2522 I saw a few after 4 5 minutes the videos got released. They must have deleted their comments
@@jaketheasianguy3307 that may be the case. All i see is an ocean of "people didnt get the joke" "didnt watch the wideo" "popcorn".
This is the best channel on RUclips regardless of hema’s rating.👍👍
I remember about the 1980s, there was a bunch of guys Clan Wallace I think who were reenactors as Highland Clansmen, they were mad, but definitely knew how to handle hand weapons. Lovely mad guys.
The trolling is strong in this one.
Shout out to all HEMA practitioners who get in and mix it up with FMA guys.
French martial arts
Lol
Excellent video Matt, your expression at the beginning was timeless....... you knew it was popcorn time!😂
I thought exactly that, like the face when he says the innuendos hahahahsjs
uh, well I was interested in starting HEMA, but my city only offers training with sabres and both the monthly payment and the protective gear was too expensive to me - so I went with boxing. Unless one learns specifically unarmed or knife-armed combat in HEMA, boxing is definitely superior for self-defence because you always carry your fists. Boxing also builds fitness quite well, though I don't know how good HEMA is at that in comparison.
Spadroon.
The only weapon to surpass the Metal Gear
Is that some sort of tourette thing?
@@akashahuja2346 No. Spadroon
@@Yeknodathon that's good, I would hate to think that you were wandering the streets randomly yelling 'spadroon!' at people and cars...
Spadroon.
I live in Asia and I want to learn HEMA. What would you guys suggest? Especially scholagladatoria.
nice to speak earlier Matt, look forward to seeing you next tuesday.
So, HEMA must be from historical sources, i.e. written manuals, because 'H' is for 'History', unless it's non-European, in which case anything goes (ref. video _What is HISTORY? (and what is NOT HEMA?);_ ruclips.net/video/-YjFubZJJcs/видео.html )._ That's "E is for Europe" out the window, then, and "H is for History" doesn't escape without potentially mortal wounds, either.
The treatises are mainly on dueling. 'Martial' means "related to war". Dueling isn't war. That's 'M' is for 'Martial' out the window.
"A is for Arts" might seem to remain standing. However, just "Arts" would be more than a bit misleading, as it includes things like the works of Rembrandt, Mozart, and Shakespeare. Putting the wounded "History" in front doesn't improve things much.
We're then left with "Sort of Historical Sort of Arts". Seriously, you can't exclude archeology, but include kendo and wushu! It's a choice of one, the other, or be ridiculous.
P.S.: I guess spear and shield in formation is saved, in part because of Socrates. He concluded emphatically that spear and shield in formation is the ultimate martial art, and that swords are for vain, short-lived braggarts. Of course, his main point was a moral and political one; good citizens stand together. Regardless, with Socrates separating out spear and shield as distinct from other martial arts, it'll take quite the authority to join them together again. Failing that, it'll take quite the authority to contradict Socrates on what is the ultimate martial art.
P.P.S.: Yes, Socrates was a trained fighter, and took part in battle. He had a bit of a reputation for becoming distracted mid-battle, and instead falling into deep trains of thought, but he did participate, and survive, without being considered unskilled or cowardly.
Indeed, it is!
No surprise teachers with businesses say that their own business is the best.
No you
I'd like to point out that HEMA is all about pictures of combat, but those pictures rarely have a good description of how we got there... Thus, whatever works will be used to reconstruct it. It may not be historical, but history plausible.
@scholagladiatoria
you mentioned mamluk egypt? do you know who practises these arts?
Hi all, and with great respect to everyone regarding HEMA and the teachings, I've come across HEMA 2 hours ago and are both intigued and confused with this system, intrigued because its new to me and a style of combat that has beem used for over 2000 plus years regarding what I would call real combat life and death combat (and I served in the British Infantry) and its transfer to street scenario's as we can not carry swords now in the modern world, are there any clubs that anyone knows of in the Hull area UK so I can learn more? Thanks in advance.
Omg, reading the comments I'm about to pass out, the way people can misunderstand humor is unbelievable.
WHERE??? I wanna laugh toooo. But there are none. The comment section is filled with people talking about people who didnt get the joke but NO actual people who didnt get the joke
@@paweandonisgawralidisdobrz2522 you need to read the comments
@@damasek219 i am and have found none that are funny people not getting the joke. Can you recall anything specific? Or are you perhaps imagining things
@@paweandonisgawralidisdobrz2522do you know the context of this video or not?
@@damasek219 yes.
I shall henceforth refer to HEMA as Euro-do-te, and Matt Easton shall forevermore be Mattster Ken.
Great sales pitch, Matt.
I was a bit surprised to hear you refer to HEMA as A single martial art. To me, that would be a bit like referring to all Japanese martial arts like karate, kendo, bushido, judo, jujitsu, etc etc collectively as THE Japanese martial art.
I used to foil fence millenia ago in college, and now your videos are inspiring me to consider taking up something like HEMA saber fencing as a fun way to get and stay fit. I'll let you know how it goes, if I live through it 😏.
Matt Easton vs Master Ken coming soon
Holding a Longsword Makes your Argument obsolete 😂😜
Yeah, HEMA is good, but I prefer Mexican Judo.
I full endorse this video and all of it’s content!
Everyone should come and give HEMA a go, it’s brilliant!
Also, swords are cool!
I was impressed you kept a straight face through the intro! Keeping that up for the whole vid was awesome.
Brilliant, I'd love to have a go at it.
Most importantly, HEMA people are the most humble of all martial artists.
I’m assuming this is a joke, given the title and context of this video lol
I am biased, but yes, yes it is.
@AileDiablo Yeah, I'm not going to read all that. From what I skim read, your comment is rife with conjecture, historical inaccuracies, and typos. I get that you prefer Eastern MAs. That's fine and it is okay to like things. Just understand that your stated criticisms and beliefs about HEMA and history in general is inaccurate.
Your comment has to be one of the greatest examples of the Dunning-Kruger effect I have ever witnessed.
You made me laugh aloud so many times throughout this video. Fantastic video Matt, love from Ohio USA
So where are all the people who apparently didn't get the joke? Everyone seems to know that the video is "tongue in cheek" since everyone keeps saying that but I don't see all of the butthurt people taking things too seriously or commenting before actually watching the video.
You obviously didn't scroll down--or missed the blatant idiocy a couple posts above this one LOL
@@shawnwolf5961 I did manage to find a few that were kinda bad I guess but when it became obvious that there were way more people complaining about the comments than actual hate comments I just stopped. You guys are overreacting.
I've seen that AileDiablo dude spamming his massively messy wall of text under multiple comments here at least 6 times (and his other non-copy/paste comments aren't much better tbh), but not much else aside from that.
@@braneri yeah there's a few bad eggs if you really look but that's every comment section.
Is it just me or did Matt Easton began using the mainstream RUclips formula
A question here. If I was to compete in a hema competition would I be able to use a weapon like say tonfa or sai against a guy who use a long sword or spear? I'm not a martial artist of any kind just genuinely curious about hema.
so if hema is the best martial art, then hema practicioners are therefore the best martial artists in the world, that must mean left handed hema practicioners are the best of the best
Makes sense.
Wouldn't that be ambidexterous people?
@@ezrajonathan I think they’re just myths 😂
@@leviethen exactly! That's how good they are! 🤣
Matt's channeling Master Ken
And in fact I do always re-stomp the groin.
@@scholagladiatoria most underrated comment on this post
Are there HEMA clubs that focus on grappling specifically, outside of the context of armed combat? As someone that trains in multiple grappling styles, I'd be interested in a HEMA perspective on wrestling.
Mine does 1/3 of pure grappling (generaly french or swiss grappling, there has been a bit of Glima), and I know that we have contact with a club that have a section that specilize in grappling.
@@koingzellkylar3175 That's interesting, I didn't think pure grappling factored into HEMA so much. Do you study / cross reference folk styles of wrestling like Kurash? Its interesting because all of these generally focus clothing based takedowns, unlike most of the modern sportive wrestling styles.
@@EfficientJudo It doesn't, we don't usually see that in other clubs that I have meet.
Not really (but I am not the instructor and I have followed from quite far because I found french wrestling not very martial), we mainly focused on late source (1800-1900) where we doesn't use the outfit much. But our group is quite small and it's more or less, bring what you want to study.
There's an entire Ringen organization run by Jessica Finley that focuses on Medieval German Wrestling. Which is extremely similar to Judo. But that might be because Jessica Finley comes from a Judo background.
@@hailhydreigon2700
I think it is, as I've worked with her and much of what she does seems far too judo-like. But I've been doing Western Martial Arts for over 40 years, so can see things that many others may not. Just an opinion, please don't take it in any sense of criticism of Jess.
Now, you need to make the video why HEMA is the worst martial art:
- Doesn't teach effective self-defense
- High cost of entry
- Limited regional accessibility
- No instructional quality control
- Low focus on athleticism
To be fair, almost NO martial art teaches effective self-defense. Plenty of them THINK they do...
@@stevenscott2136 yeah, for sure. Better to think of it all as on a spectrum. And probably better to think of self-defense as its individual components and to look at those in detail, rather than thinking of it as one thing. In a way, it is a bit disappointing that it didn't receive the same theoretical study as you would have in major sports.
@@stevenscott2136 I'd argue that running teaches the best self defence
I would agree, if you wore armor. Full period armor and compete w blunted swords.
As it is, it is not truly historical. Unless those fancy mesh outfits are historical?
Hahaha you got me! I've been doing Muay Thai for years and I was like Bruh??? Really this cosplay stuff would be effective in a one v one hand-to-hand fight. LOL. But I watched to the end and then watched your other videos and realised if I had to use cold-arms, learning how to use sword and shied in armour would be the best way to go. Great trolling, as you say CONTEXT!!!
I'd love to see a review of Sicilian straight razor combat. It's very effective, as the RUclips videos show, plus it's particularly lurid and disgusting.
Is there a good list of good hema "dojos" around the world?
Technically and historically correct, that is why they became the major imperialist nations in world history, but the contemporary society needs contemporary technologies and paradigm
Hema includeds weapon based, unarmed, grappeling, and ranged marshellarts which other marshellarts does included sow many things. Kung fu does!!! Yeh the 1 marshellarts system 90% of people have forgoten about. Kung fu is a umbrela therm for bassicly all forms of ancient chinees marshellarts systems. It includes things like wushu, tai chi, wing chung, shaolin kung fu and chinees archery I don't know how that's called. There are over a 100 different Weapons that are included in the kung fu arsenal. From warweapons, to selfdefence weapons, to hidden weapons, to throwing weapons, to missile weapons, to improvised weapons and even training methodes to litterly forge your body into a weapon. I bet at the end kung fu will include more weapons to train with then hema. I practice both hema and kung fu and I think saying one marshellarts system is better then a other is first class bullsh*t. Every marshellarts has it strenghts as long as it isn't a fake marshellarts system that has litterly no science to back up what there doing works which marshellarts is better depends only and fully on the marshellartists. I used iron bone training to strenghten my bones till the point that I can slam them into hardend steel full strenght. How long do you think a just starting boxer will last against somebody who has fingers and hands sow though and strong that they can pierce flesh or chop bamboe using only there body. That fight wouldn't be a indication on which system is better now would it? I'm also not crazy I'm fully aware that a highly skilled boxer would also be able to do serieus damages against me. Hema has survived the test of time and sow has kung fu. We marshellartists shouldn't fight about which system is better we should try to learn from eachother and maby even practice eachother systems. The only time a marshellarts is superieur is if the marshellartist doing it is superieur. Also I don't think it's fair of you to take a mma system and compare it to single style systems like kendo of course a multiple style system will give you more options your trained to do more. If you would make that fair you pick one europeen fighting system like german longsword and pin that against a other single fighting system like kendo that would be fair. We shouldn't want feel elitist as marshellartists cause if you really cocky enough to think your the best know this. Every single person on the street thinks there the best fighters in the world, but the once walking around there that actuely are decent fighters don't think this cause they had there ego checked and discoverd that the aren't. I'm not the best fighter in the world, my skill is not the best in the world, I'm not the strongest nor the fastest person alive, I'm not the best at anything in marshellarts all I know is that I'm trained to get better at all those things and that's more then most can say.
Ooooh the comments, I feel like crying, maybe with laughter or maybe with sadness or even frustration, I'm not sure.
I agree completely if we change the title and every other reference frome HEMA to Chinese Shao Lin Kung Fu
The biggest argument I would make for HEMA is that human beings are biologically inclined toward tool-usage. We do not have natural "weapons" like a lion or bear, so we are most advantageous when equipped with a tool we are well trained with. HEMA obliges that natural inclination. Now having said that, I think we would be remiss as honest martial artists if we didn't acknowledge that there is still a difference between someone who trains boxing or grappling to complement their swordsmanship vs someone who is actually highly skilled in those specializations. I know there's no rule saying you can't be a great hand-to-hand fighter and still do HEMA, it's just important to be honest with oneself in that regard.
Musashi said learn the timing in all things this too is the way \m/
We put our martial art under pressure,
pushing down on me,
Pressing down on you,
No man ask for
Also tongue in cheek. History begins yesterday so you can include anything.
I'm moving to Verona soon, anyone know how the hema club there is?
That was a great HEMA commercial! ;)
Sadly here in Puerto Rico I have no access to any HEMA school.
There are few really good online hema courses that can get you started! Check duellotv or blood and iron on RUclips and pick up a stick.
@@_tonypacheco Thanks for the info.
Can one then draw from the Western tradition and bring Air and Artillery support to the sword fight?
The thing about hema being the best is that actually using moves designed strictly for lethality or permanent disablement in the modern world would land you in jail even when used for self defense in most countries. Not to mention carrying any weapon not designed for sparring is also illegal in most places. Could hema possibly be the most effective martial art? yeah I could certainly see that, but I would argue something like judo is more suited for the modern world because of the "gentle" way it's possible to subdue opponents, although ringgit might spoil this whole argument I'm now realizing lol . Still all that being said I've already practiced joint locks and grappling, and I plan to start training hema at a longsword school near me soon because i think it would be the most fun.
There's also stuff like the Victorian Era cane/stick fighting combined with pugilism (bartitsu) that can be applied when you have a stick, cane, or umbrella to hand
While Matt was entirely shitposting, that is much of the problem with applying HEMA to modern contexts. American military knife/dagger and hand-to-hand combat actually still looks a lot like HEMA; civilian self-defense does not, in part due to expectations of average gear (armor, ammo and such on a soldier, mostly thin and fragile clothing in civilian) and due to differences in desired outcome (people often wanting to _not_ kill the other person, as you mentioned) in civilian contexts. That is a lot of the reason why knives are preferred in some places over more lethal daggers; social and legal repercussions.
@@NevisYsbryd I appreciate the non-seriousness of this video, I was just taking the opportunity to bring this up because i found it an interesting aspect to this discussion. That's pretty interesting as well though I didn't even consider comparing hema to modern military martial arts styles, pretty cool.
@@nickgreene2971 Yeah. While the exact techniques may not be identical, it is very comparable.
ruclips.net/video/KnWtd9DfkgY/видео.html
I trained under Metatron with the plumbata.
Next, how to juggle pizzas.
It's more fun. You start off with swords instead of ending up with them. Hand weapons are fun. It's not so much about tactical self defense as just enjoying combat as a historical interest.
I'd love to try it but I don't think I can afford it tbh. Even £20 or whatever for an hour and a half session is a bit much, assuming they provide gear for you to use. So we're talking up to £100 a week? It's a bit pricier than a gym membership to put it mildly. Then you have to factor in having to travel quite far just to find a HEMA club to train with.
There doesn't seem to be a clear path to get into it without spending a ton of money. Also, if I bought the gear I have nobody to practice with, as it's not a popular martial art. I don't think using a longsword really has any practical applications in the real world either. Nobody should be carrying around bladed weapons.
competitive cultural practices leads to more innovations.
I dabble in MEME-A as well, it's not the best but it's the most popular among the arts.
My black belt in Japanese Jiu Jitsu tied itself into a knot listening to this.
the british starting a war what a surprise
Now seriously good video i like how you expres about this martial art a lot of people don't think that this is good for the streets but the reality is
Sword>>>>>>>>>fist
Uh Matt love you for making this argument but your reasoning is wrong, you never mentioned spadroons once. And the answer is: "spadroons" the sharpest, deadliest sword that discovered nuclear fission.
Good lord, you’re right. Not one mention of the mighty Spadroon… This is an outrage!
Strongly disagre.
1. it cowers everything, jack of all trades, master of none.
2. Many stuff was lost, and some is written in perspective of midcentury human, new area arts is better documented. U dont need balast to have good m.art, just clean and best stuff.
3.if it would cower everything, ewery good mma fighter would have background in hema.
3.2 "mma is sport that doesent alow surtaint things" as hema is sport that doesnt alow guns, sprays and some other things
3.3 i agree about boxing and wrestling are really good and have roots from old europe, but modern boxing nor wrestling arent hema.
4. Many other martial arts have it too, specially mma, thats why so many diferent backgrounds in world ring. And all martial arts do repetition by the book for muscle memory and have sparing after that. BJJ, JJ, MMA, boxing...
5. Subjective fact.
And: it is fucking expensive gear, and if you do not have, it can go bad quickly, even with gear.
Im not hating tho, have been your subscriber for quite some time, and sword enthusiast, but i did both, and i have to disagree with you.
And I wil use your own words from many other videos: context!
Chinese martial arts have everything Hema has and more. Where HEMA falls short is the lack of "internal" power generation that is emphasized in the Chinese Internal martial arts. While there is some crossover, even in western boxing, it wasn't refined to the higher levels in the west, compared to what the Chinese Taoists had cultivated.
You didn't even mention that saying you practice HEMA gets girls wild at the club!
Nothing like saying at parties you like to SWORD FIGHT, SWORD FIGHT, SWORD FIGHT! _In Tarantino voice_
Yeah. At my swordfighting club...
Man, there is so much hate in these comments. Great work trolling the mouth breathing basement dwellers that are experts in everything 'cause they played a video game. Slick Matt, keep it up! LOL. Seriously though, you've got me interested in Military saber and so I'm looking into getting a decent quality saber and a couple of manuals to train with. Thanks for the inspiration and all the knowledge you share. It's people like you that prove that humanity can be great. If I ever get the chance to come to the UK, my first stop will be the Wallace Collection, second will be to get a lesson or two from you. Stay the course and troll the keyboard warriors!
Ameridote is the best martialart!
What other martial art covers unarmed, close combat weapons and missile combat? Well guns of course!
Unarmed: Cooper’s first rule of gunfighting
Close combat weapons: CQC, bayonet, instinctive/point shooting.
Missile: Yes.
It’s also well documented, arguably better so than HEMA. Plenty of surviving field manuals from the smoothbore days onto Fairbairn and Cooper’s foundation for the modern technique and beyond. (On a serious note, perhaps something on how Fairbairn’s techniques are rooted in HEMA?)
IIRC, Fairbairn used basics from quite a few different martial arts. That completely makes sense for a system to be used in life-or-death struggles on the mean streets.
TBH, Hema is less like a more familiar Asian martial art and more like MMA (I.e. martial artS). No surprise it is more comprehensive than say a particular Kenjutsu school, or even kenjutsu as a whole (literally the samurai, or samurai derivative, art of using the katana out of the scabbard specifically, and sometimes the wakizashi). It is kinda like comparing the concept of a citrus fruit to a passion fruit just because both are phrased with fruit in singular.
SCA
New petition to make HEMA a part of MMA.
Matt goddammit! You should've waited for April 1st.
So, everyone should try HEMA because HEMA is in everything. Got it. 😁
Instructor " Hey, mate, what's with the M-60 Machine Gun. " Well, you said other Martial Arts Styles are welcome in HEMA. What, you never heard of Rambo Fu?.
The satirical take is In regards to objective elitism, “HEMA is the best.” which isn’t actually being challenged...
Yet the topic itself, is exclusionary elitism, “That isn’t real HEMA/go away LARPer.”
Hey! Glad to see you here friend!
@@prometheanhealing3942 hey brother 🙏🏼
God: What’s the most complete martial art I created?
HEMA: yes