Tesla Semi Performance Results Revealed!
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BS. The GVW limit is 80,000 lbs. I have yet to see any data detailing range and towing capacity for this vehicle. Fact is this vehicle weighs a huge amount because of the batteries. Saying that we were able to go x number of miles with an 80,000 GVW is meaningless. Tell me how much you were able to tow and how far you could go.
Comparing the estimated weight to my sleeper cab, it can haul ~5,000 lbs less. But all the extra weight on the Tesla's drive axles makes it impossible to slide tandems for a legal weight distribution, so in reality I'm guessing it will top out around ~10,000 lbs less. The shipper would have to take special care organizing loads that are above 38,000 lbs, and that's if the product can even be rearranged.
The idea that all trucks are running around at full weight is a fallacy
@@fradaja Just looked at my past BOLs hauling varied dry van freight. 7 out 10 of my recent loads were above 40,000 lbs.
@@randgrithr7387
Exactly nearly half weight
@@fradaja
Can you read? That's the _payload,_ the gross weight would be above 74,000
so at 1076 miles with 3 recharges...... it has a range of 358 miles, while a diesel semi has a range of 900 to 2000 miles on 1 tank of gas.......
So what? In California, where all the Tesla Semis are deployed, a solo driver in a Tesla Semi can drive as far in a day as permitted by speed limits and HOS regulations, which is 11 hours x 55 MPH = 605 miles. So 295 to 1,395 if that range is simply wasted carrying extra diesel fuel around.
@Big_Ben_from_La_Mesa yeah if they fully fuel it. However many of them actually don't fully fuel them so they can carry more cargo with out going over the weight limit.
This test is actually a pretty severe one, especially if you have to deal with the steep climb to Donner Summit on Interstate 80 east of Sacramento and long slopes of Tejon Pass with its high summer temperatures between Wheeler Ridge and Santa Clarita, CA. The fact the Tesla Semi did so well is a testament to the excellent engineering of this semitruck. Interestingly, the first major competitor to the Tesla Semi could be something from Hino, a subsidiary of Toyota. Expect a sleek-looking semi using Toyota-funded solid state batteries by 2026.
11:10 you can bet the working Assembly line for Teslabot will be staffed by Teslabots doing human type task
Where did you get your statistic about the weight the Semi's were carrying in the Run on less test?
Cool vid. Great to have results which speak for themselves.
This is extremely impressive and positive. It is good to see the competition is there, all be it with some catching up to do.
I'm a w900 KW fan but I would love to try one of these out for hauling grain
It would be way cheaper than letting the truck run waiting in line at the elevator.
Thanks
How many solar panels do I need to charge my Tesla Semi?
As a driver 80k gvw is standard also didn't mention speed that 570 something miles was done at, betting it was 60mph or less most of the trip as previous tests have shown tesla truck can't do extended highway speeds for long. Electric truck may work for local (300-400 miles a day) but not for over the road.
they're fine for short hauls but thats it, btw 70lbs is not a full load, 70k lbs is the gross weight with all included, now i contracted for pepsi before an drove their trailers an i noticed in the bill of landing the weight with like 400lbs to spare to the 80k lbs limit was about 36200 meaning that if it was hauling with 70k lbs gross weight the actual payload at best would be 26600 at best if considering a tesla tractor weighs the same as a volvo vnl 860 but due to the batteries i highly dought it, i would estimate a 3000lbs increase on teslas side therefore the actual payload was around 23600 or less, which is light, so light in fact i would be very careful not to lock up the trailer wheels driving in Montana due to us considering a load under 25k lbs a light trailer
The Tesla semi is calculated to be around 27,000 lbs. Which makes me wonder if all the extra weight on the drives will limit payload weight due to tandem sliding.
Demonstrated payload is 44,000 lbs. of concrete highway barriers on a flatbed trailer at 82,000 lbs. GCVW, so probably 43,000 lbs. in a slightly heavier dry van trailer.
You are so Incorrect regarding weights of transport trucks. A 5 axle combination is allowed to be 80,000 lbs total. Combined weight. That also depends on the Bridge Formula, Axle weights especially. NO way your precious truck hauled 70,000 lbs weight. Let's see... It's simple. Let's assume the Tesla weighs around 30,000 lbs. Trailer looked like a 48ft, so i'll say it weighs around 10,000 lbs. So looks to me like the Tesla can haul roughly 40,000 lbs. I know nobody will agree cuz everyone loves precious tesla, But the real facts and numbers are not being shown. It's just P.R.
Good one. I was waiting to see if someone would call bullshit on this Fanboy channel.
That's actually pretty close. Electric and natural-gas powered semis are allowed an extra ton, to 82,000 GCVWR. And the Tesla Semi weighs more like 27,000 lbs. Demonstrated payload is 44,000 lbs. of concrete highway barriers on a flatbed trailer, probably 43,000 lbs. in a dry van trailer.
I can’t remember the exact numbers but I watched a vid where a guy did some rough calcs on the Tesla semi based on other semi and Tesla’s other EVs and found that the Tesla semi can only legally haul like 20k lbs or so. That battery is just weighing itself down so much.
Is the data from the Chinese test highway applicable to military uses for military vehicles? AI for instance.
Just a question from ignorant Australian volume. Do you have charging facilities that can support these trucks? Do you have an electric network that can support the charging facilities?
Yes, and yes.
Unfortunately, they have not broken ground yet on the new semi factory in Nevada…
why Tesla doesn't build the trailer with batteries to just connect and transport. This way, the semi would not need to stop to charge as the battery would be charging and being transferred via cables.
😂 not a serious question.... Or Wait, is it?
It would exceed the weight limit, detracting from the load it could carry.
Good choice
Germany just worked out a simple solution to range anxiety for EV semi trucks by installing tram like high voltage cables over Autobahn
Tesla is a solid lvl 3 autonomy.
Since China has a high level of ‘centralisation’ it can actually work there by fragmenting into two categories: high-speed highway commute which is good for the economy and limited by territory robotaxis (mapping, sensors) since a taxi service is limited to a particular city/area. It is not general FSD, however, just big cities and intercity commute (70% of the traffic).
_Tesla is a solid lvl 3 autonomy._
That would only be FSD, and FSD Beta doesn't meet SAE requirements for SAE Level 3 driving automation. Level 3 allows fallback "in a timely manner" (MB Drive Pilot uses 10 seconds), while FSD requires the driver to take over immediately. Until FSD can allow delayed takeover by the driver, it's still Level 2.
Liar, it's only lvl 2.
@@cyruslupercal9493 _Liar, it's only lvl 2._
You're almost certainly wrong. That would be a lie only if Pavel *knew* it was false at the time he said it, which is unlikely. Calling people liars when they're simply mistaken doesn't benefit anyone.
I was told by a Toyota employee working on the fuel cell project that they use the Tesla semi to transport their materials that they're using to build a fuel cell network throughout California. They're aren't enough Tesla semis, so Toyota is now developing a diesel/fuel cell hybrid semi, which imo is the best option. Toyota will also start focusing on fuel cell passenger vehicles more than electric vehicles. During the Summer, I had 2 members of the Olympic Committee as passengers. They talked about how the Olympics will no longer be a part of the pre-games, and that the Olympic trademark/symbol will also not be used for pre-games. This is due to money distribution issues and how they're tired of going through so many channels. I do Uber in SF, so I hear lots of things.
You either made this up, or you were told wrong; I'm betting on the former. Toyota isn't doing anything of the sort, because all Tesla Semis now in private hands are owned by PepsiCo.
500TH LIKE! Your welcome 😆
2nd like, u r whalecum
Hi is it possible that have a metric translation on the graphics? The rest of the world uses metric. Please, at least a small number on the side.
1m =1,6km... You're welcome
@@MrKOenigma that’s not what I’m asking for.
Carry significantly less cargo over drastically reduced range! What a great idea.
UBI FTW
The issue with electric vehicles is not the vehicles them selves its the fact that one the current power grid in this country can't sustain the current load in most places causing blackouts an rolling brown outs an 2 they are putting the cart before the horse there is basically no infrastructure to support a major shift to electric. All the current truckstops would need charge stations that needs to be in place an effective b4 a shift to electric in the commercial transport industry. Just my opinion
"blackouts an rolling brown outs" in most places? Examples, please?
How long were these three quit recharging sessions?
55 minutes in the morning and 23 minutes in the afternoon at the Harris Ranch Supercharger, and 1:24 between shifts at noon at the PepsiCo Sacramento Bottling Plant Megacharger.
Not surprising that China would push fsd. Reduce the disruption caused by human driving? Sounds like a benefit to society
Wyotech pin stripes
Mercedes Actros did not enter the challenge
Os lucros de qualquer grande industria depende da capacidade de gerenciamento de seu próprio seguro da carga e custos totais de transporte de seu produto de sua unidade fabril e distribuição para seu HUD. Tenho a opinião com que obtive de informação sobre o Semi da Tesla que haverá substancial redução do seguro e custos de transporte para as industrias e isto incentivará um melhor produto, mais lucro, mais eficiência, mais investimentos de recursos em produtividade, ...a lista é enorme. Sem duvidas, Empresas que investirem n transporte de 100% de eficiência com 0% de emissão de poluição serão os lideres de mercado no Século XXI
From someone been driving a Tesla model 3 for a week now doing rideshare and a retired trucker with around a million miles. I can say that Tesla is a great vehicle to drive. It will stay at the temperature that you last set while it’s plugged into a charger. So, if you set temp at 65F it will keep that without losing power/ miles. Tesla hates to change batteries when they are not under 10% and you can go from 0-60 without losing all your energy doing so. That means you will only lose what you would have lost with the same amount of miles. Also, everything is on the tablet to control the whole vehicle settings. You can customize inside lights, outside lights and horn to how you like it. It has face recognition on the tablet that once you use the vehicle enough it will start without you having to card screen (card key) in. You can also customize the braking and steering wheel the way you like it. Seat same, it has cameras all over the inside and outside the vehicle that if you were in an accident that your story is told without guessing. The bad part is that you can’t feel the weight of the load so I bet you can’t tell if something is off on the load. I bet Tesla can add an arm autopilot line hookup if we want one. Maybe they can design auto landing gear rollup and drop to the setup. The point is, if we think it maybe they can add it and allow the driver control from the cab.
Tesla semi will help more people transition to EVs. Those EV skeptics will gradually accept
The new world of battery power vehicles. I have solar on my house. I spend zero to use my Model 3. Also I make so much power I don’t pay for utilities. I wish everyone can have what I have. No more oil change smog check and brakes.
You have solar on your home and the solar is all paid for?
@@Chestickles Can't speak for William, but I'm in the same situation as he is with my Model Y, and my systems has paid for itself twice over in the nine years I've had it.
@@Big_Ben_from_La_Mesa All the people I've talked to can't give me an answer when their net metering will pay off their solar investment.
And your solar panels net metering have return your investment twice....
@@Chestickles. I'm not responsible for the inability of the people you've talked to to calculate their savings. I'm grandfathered on NEM 2.0, so in essence I have full net metering, which makes it pretty easy.
Do you really have pareidolia?
@@Big_Ben_from_La_Mesa I do not have pareidolia..
Was hoping for some figures, but enjoy the holidays.
Amazing company, go Tesla❤
Cheers. The actuators would surely be machine produced though by a machine designed by humans. Or maybe AI? The plaid motors for the S and X are of the hair pin 'winding' type for the stator. Wires are round so you lose more space than you would with square 'wires'. Huge increase in efficiency .. less power required and more power output. Exceptionally stable magnetic field The Semi has a couple at the rear for acceleration / uphill but is otherwise moved by a single 'standard' motor. GM actually invented the process many many years ago but couldn't make it stick. 10-15 years ago. Rivian are using pin motors and maybe VW. The motors for the Gen. 3 are without rare earths because they have or will have such command over the generated electromagnetic field. Point being is that the Tesla 'motor dept' is going to be full of clever people who see actuators as the motors they are. Tesla are looking for someone to develop a system to assemble the bot so they must have all of the ingredients... or at least enough to start off with.
Lol. You didnt answer the real question that everyone ask about when it comes to ev, the battery. How reliable are these battery packs going to be? Lately there have been alot of people talking about how their battery breaks at 150k miles. These tesla are consumer products, now if the truck batteries are consumer grade then how is it going to last 1 million miles like normal diesel trucks. Tesla battery have thousands of cells and if one of these fail then the bms will show that the battery is dead or malfunction.
Yeah but, fast charging cuts battery life in half. How much does it cost to replace the batteries 2 to 4 years? $50K, $70K, $100K?
It does not cut in half... Were did you get that? Charging rates do in deed affect the battery life, due to the heat being created. Tesla have reached well over 300.000 on first battery. Another problem is fully charging.... Which can be avoided by a setting in most cases, or simply by unplugging. Also you need to see the charging speed in relation to the batteries' capacity.
That's make up , you can't even define what "fast charging" is
Very good video. Unfortunately, I can't subscribe or like it, because you add advertising (on top of YT) without the ability to skip it (chapters).
The weight of the trailer would limit capacity. Batteries are heavy.
It's RUclips, you can skip whatever you want, just tap on the right side of your screen a few times or click further on the progress bar of the video.
I need to hear from the haters
So we are waiting for the bot actuators. Makes sense, things had seemed to be cruising toward a factory-ready beta series. Hurry up, guys, I want one to support our old age decrepitation. For seniors in need of day-to-day care, one Optimus trained in basic nursing, meal prep, cleaning, etc. per household, $20K (probably $40K by the time it gets here and $2K down, 0% interest) solves one of our biggest looming crises - the Senior Boom.
Here's hoping the other companies learn from Tesla on this one!
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70 000 pounds full load, but what was the payload? I could make an electric truck that would go 20 000 miles but could only car 1 pound of payload, deceptive results again.
ive sub contracted with pepsi before with their trailers ive noticed a close to gwl of 80k load was bout 36200 of payload so make of that whatcha will(the tractor driving with was a 18 volvo vnl 860, the tesla ones prob heavier then the 860)
@@ELISainta for sure its heavier, that's why they won't release the data
Demonstrated payload is 44,000 lbs. of concrete highway barriers on a flatbed trailer at 82,000 lbs. GCVW, so probably 43,000 lbs. in a slightly heavier dry van trailer. So at 70,000 lbs. GCVW, payload would be about 31,000 lbs.
@@Big_Ben_from_La_Mesa we wouldn't have to speculate if they released their numbers, I wonder why they don't.
@@runnynose8341 They *do* release their numbers, just not to the general public. There could be several reasons why they don't release the numbers publicly: they may not want to give their competitors a specific performance target to shoot at, although for now at least there really aren't any competitors on performance. Or they know that whatever number they release, the doubters and haters will find some reason to criticize them the numbers they release. But the most likely reason is that the 36 now in PepsiCo hands are hand-built prototypes, and exact final specifications have not been locked in yet.
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I don't think truckers want range anxiety.
I don't think they *have* range anxiety.
There is a reason the Semi beat the competition - it has a much larger battery and they over-charge - its not LFP so 80/10.
1:39 You failed to mention there were 2 drivers. 1 driver can only drive 11 hours per day. So, to achieve 1076 miles he'd have to go at 98 mph. I smell BS. PS, its only 8 hours max in Europe
1:42 It wasnt a full load of about 70,000 LBs. It was a GVM of 72,000Lbs. Seeing as Tesla refuses to tell us the TARE, nobody knows the cargo mass. Notwithstanding the GVM was 10,000 LBs light
2:33 You dont know how to compare correctly. Apply some critical thinking and math. Tesla used to say 2 Kwhr/miles, now its 1.7, but it's an "estimate". Why the change? 2 other vehicles were very close at 2.0 and 2.2.
Charging was done on 1MW chargers. How many of those are there around the country - f^&kall. So try it on a 350Kw charger!
As usual more BS reporting.
"It was a GVM of 72,000Lbs." where did you get that? Can't find it on their (run on less) website.
Get some friends, get out of your basement
Considering the Model Y os the best selling car in the world I'll bet the semi works out jist as well.
Tesla is hiding stats about these vehicles. I'd love to know the Tare. I'm thinking around 30,000 lbs.
Yep this channel is just run by some Tesla Fanboy.
Storing electricity in lithium-ion batteries is a pretty dumb idea,
but what do you expect from a guy who calls Fuel Cell - "Fool Cells".
Invent something better genius 🙄
@@matejmotuz108
I don't have to, it's already been done.
Keep being ignorant.
"A full load of 70,000 pounds"
They're literally carrying bags of chips that should tell you everything you need to know about this piece of junk
Self driving trucks don’t make sense for China. China is have trouble finding jobs for everyone. Taking jobs away from truck drivers would make that problem worse.
BS!! E trucks might be viable for short distances, but long haul trucks will need to many charging stations with a sub-station back bone from the grid. Never going to happen anytime soon.
Stating the Gross Combination Weight means nothing. WTF is wrong with you fanboys? This is textbook Dunning-Kruger . To put this in simple terms, how much does the tractor weigh?
26,000 - 28,000 lbs.
Three stops to recharge in one day... and they're bragging!? How about competition against new diesels measuring performance and cost?
Well, considering that Pepsi has had tham for a while now, and is looking to replace all their other ICE trucks with them, they're clearly better in price to performance.
I bet that there’s electrical service at every load/unload dock, so they could add a charger at each regular stop too. No need to go to a gas station then, since they stop for 30-60 min to load or unload.
They aren’t bragging that EVs are better than diesel trucks in mileage or haulage, at least not yet. But these aren’t the only yardsticks for efficiency. There’s cost, maintenance, environmental friendliness. All of which EVs are better. Even on mikeage and especially haulage the EVs aren’t too far behind the diesel trucks. Give it a few more years.
Sadly for diesel market, perhaps half of the trucks doesn't work all day long.
What is its useful load not total load? BS
I hope that don't explode and kill innocent people
Considering that NAHTSA has found that ICE cars, on average, explode ten times MORE often than EVs, I highly doubt that's a problem.
@@yomanyo327 i saw a lot of electric car burning on internet. A bigger and more forced battery seems even worse.
@@SebiAlan-tq3xq Did you ever wonder *why* you saw a lot of electric cars burning on the internet? You saw them because they're newsworthy. did you ever wonder *why* they're newsworthy? They're newsworthy because they're rare. There are hundreds of ICE vehicle fires *every single day.* How many of *them* did you see burning?
Every study ever done shows that ICE vehicles catch fire at a *much* higher rate than EVs; so EVs aren't the problem, ICEVs are the problem.
@@SebiAlan-tq3xq research how many ice vehicle fires there are each year. Here in the U.S. we had 217,000+in 2022 alone.
That averages to a real world combustion engine powered vehicle fire every 4mins.
And the #1 open recall across ALL LEGACY ice oems globally is for the risk of FIRE even when parked.
10,000,000+vehicle's 3-5 year's old are under recall here in the us for the risk of FIRE even when parked.
imagine your smartphone exploding in your pocket destroying your crotch. Or when you are taking a call and it removes your ear and half of your head. Must be very common and it could be you next.
Three fast charges a day? Those batteries won't last a year at that rate. Just watch what happens to Lyft drivers when using a Tesla.
First of all, it wasn't three fast charges in a day; it was one fast charge at a Tesla Megacharger, and two slower charges at a Tesla Supercharger.
Out of millions of Teslas in the US, some have had premature battery failures; and some of those have been Lyft or Uber drivers, often after exceeding the warrantied mileage. But that's not evidence that batteries in general will fail within a year if fast charged. in fact, Recurrent has recently released a massive study showing that fast charging of modern batteries has very little effect on battery life; "The results show no statistically significant difference in range degradation between Teslas that fast charge more than 90% of the time and those that fast charge less than 10% of the time."
In any event, if they do fail, it's on Tesla, because there's a 1 million warranty on the batteries. So you can be pretty confident that Tesla has made sure that the Tesla Semi batteries *won't* fail prematurely when fast charged, because obviously that's going to be the most frequent charging experience. Best to peddle your FUD elsewhere.
@@Big_Ben_from_La_Mesa It's not FUD if it's happening to others... Fast charging kills these batteries quick. Tesla is not standing behind warranties if you fast charge. Both these cases are known issues.
@@theoracleprodigy _Fast charging kills these batteries quick._
The Recurrent study completely refutes this claim.
_Tesla is not standing behind warranties if you fast charge._
Evidence?
_Both these cases are known issues._
A few unsourced anecdotes are *not* evidence.
@@Big_Ben_from_La_Mesa Watch some youtube from people who have used them for uber. For cars the warranty is only 50k in miles and it was out of warranty... So I was wrong on that but the battery was dead after 1 year of driving with fast charging. I would be very shocked if they last 1million miles with trucks.
@@theoracleprodigy You sound like you're at least willing to consider new evidence, but also that you're just copying what other folks say. If not, you'd have taken a few seconds to verify the 50k warranty claim; and if you had, you'd have learned that the battery warranty is actually 8 years or 120,000 miles on all Model 3s and Model Ys except the Model 3 RWD, for which it's 8 years or 100,000 miles. For Models S and X, it's 8 years or 150,000 miles. Just for comparison, the longest drivetrain warranty I know of for ICE cars is the Kia/Hyundai 100,000 mile drivetrain warranty; and except for the lowest-cost Tesla model, which matches this, all Tesla battery mileage warranties are either 20% or 50% longer.
To repeat; just because a few Tesla batteries in Uber cars failed shortly after going out of mileage warranty, doesn't prove that frequent fast charging damaged the batteries; and the Recurrent study showed conclusively that it doesn't. If this happened to many or most of these, there might be a case; but I only know of a few. And if this *were* the case, the word would get around, and *no one* would be using Teslas for Uber or Lyft; but many still are, due to the fuel savings vs. ICE cars.
One of the failures I'm aware of was CYBRLFT in San Diego, who had an RWD Model 3 with the 100,000 miles warranty; but it still went 120,000 miles before failing.
Undoubtedly some Tesla Semi batteries will fail before the 1 million mile warranty; but that'll be on Tesla, not the owner.
You haven't provided any evidence for your claim that Tesla is not standing behind the warranty if you fast charge. There was one recent case where a Tesla owner *claimed* that Tesla rejected a battery warranty claim just because he drove through water; but that's only one side of the story, and someone who had a claim rejected legitimately would have a strong incentive to lie about the circumstances.
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