Putting “Lipstick on a pig” or a true sonic improvement?

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  • Опубликовано: 23 ноя 2024

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  • @julianhl9439
    @julianhl9439 9 часов назад +2

    I enjoyed your insightful review! It was super helpful to hear your perspective on this US Mono re-release. I’m a British fellow collector who loves the original UK 60s mono Beatles albums; I appreciate your comparison. I have a 60s USA Stereo of ‘Meet the Beatles' which I bought as was curious how the folks in the US heard the band for the first time there. ‘I wanna hold your hand ‘ is a great opening track. Thanks for sharing your experience and expertise! I've just subscribed and look forward to future content from you. Be Well.

  • @BruceColon-BSides
    @BruceColon-BSides День назад +7

    Your expertise and context are perfect for reviewing these new releases.

    • @SafeAndSoundTXAudioExcursion
      @SafeAndSoundTXAudioExcursion  День назад +1

      @@BruceColon-BSides thanks Bruce!

    • @gregoryfeo6837
      @gregoryfeo6837 11 часов назад

      The MEET THE BEATLES albums were cut for vinyl from the original master tapes using a completely analog signal path and with constant reference to first generation pressings of the original albums. They were made using a Studer A80 master recorder with analog preview & program paths, and an Neumann VMS70 cutting lathe originally installed in Capitol Studios in 1971. This specific all-analog cutting technique allows faithful representation of the full musical range and dynamics present on the original tapes.

  • @vinylrichie007
    @vinylrichie007 День назад +14

    I rather like Meet The Beatles. That blue vinyl looks nice. I generally prefer stereo.

    • @LeftyPem
      @LeftyPem День назад +2

      @@vinylrichie007 with these, the stereo is generally the way to go, as the monos are mostly folds, which you can do yourself if you have the stereo :)

    • @gregoryfeo6837
      @gregoryfeo6837 11 часов назад

      Then not mono?

  • @jamesy4003
    @jamesy4003 День назад +5

    I agree on packaging being done very well , for a 67yo original fan , this is what we grew up on, I am waiting for my box to arrive and did pickup the blue vinyl at Target and I thought the sound was a great representation of what they sounded like in 64’. I was impressed, it is that compressed “ hot” mono sound with the Capital tricks all there with the echo or reverb added in, but I liked it and although I have many copies of the originals , as you said to hear a clean copy without the nostalgic pops n ticks was nice - Fab Review, take care 👍🏻

  • @novisnick6928
    @novisnick6928 День назад +1

    Outstanding review David You are right on so many points. Thanks for your contribution of excellence in video !

  • @northcarolinavinylpicker
    @northcarolinavinylpicker День назад +2

    Enjoyed your show as well as your channel . Very informative David. I wish I had your insight and knowledge and especially your intalect. I bought my copy today. I’ve never heard the mono. Thanks art

  • @thechuckster6838
    @thechuckster6838 День назад +3

    Yours is the most educated review that I will ever accept. I'm with you on Stereo. Mono Beatles records (as well as Beach boys) always sounded like AM radio. However, there are Beatles UK mono mixes that sound incredible, but they are not stereo, and to me that's like watching a color movie in black and white. If I want mono, I will flip the switch on my preamp and listen to is as such. I will wait for the stereo box to hit the street before I shell out $300.00 on a vinyl set. BTW, there was never a mono mix of Meet The Beatles, Early Beatles and Beatles Story.... they were fold downs of the stereo. What you have in your hands is a fold down of the stereo tape. Thanks for the review!

  • @mjanovec
    @mjanovec День назад +2

    Enjoyed the video! These LPs serve two purposes. First, they offer a nostalgic reminder to fans who grew up on these versions. Second, they provide newer fans an alternate way of experiencing the music… presenting it the same way that American fans enjoyed them in the 60s. I don’t think these will end up being definitive versions for most people, but I can appreciate how fun they are. They are not audiophile albums, but nobody should expect them to be. (Though it’s distressing to hear about noisy vinyl.)

  • @brianlewis5042
    @brianlewis5042 День назад +1

    Thank you David for honest and eye opening review. This is why I subscribed to your channel. I was totally disappointed in the number of boxsets available. With the price being such and for many who preordered it only never get it, I feel it leaves people not wanting to collect records at all.
    Bright side is I have more $’s for other records I will listen to.

  • @dimebagdave77
    @dimebagdave77 День назад +1

    Thanks very much for this review Dave✌️🤘

  • @mrturtleturtle7878
    @mrturtleturtle7878 День назад +1

    Awesome review! I’m interested to hear how this sounds, I’ll have to pick it up next time I stop by at target

  • @AudioAl5195
    @AudioAl5195 22 часа назад +1

    Thank you for your video. Very well done and you parallel my thoughts. I picked up my copy at Target this morning as well but more for a curiosity piece than a music piece. I have so many versions and releases of all The Beatles release from my original copies to the most recent ones. It is an act of passion for this music and how much it means to me. I enjoy them all. I bought all the “2009” version box sets in stereo and mono in both vinyl and CD and then bought each of the individual album box sets as they were released. I also have the Capital CD Box sets as well as Japanese versions of “Hey Jude” and “Yesterday and Today” (with the fake babies cover) but don’t usually play them as I am a UK / Stereo guy but Sgt. Pepper in mono is quite different and worth listening to from time to time. I ramble but it is for the love of this music. Thank you and enjoy this once in forever music.

  • @DouglasMoreland-qd5cz
    @DouglasMoreland-qd5cz День назад +1

    I’m gonna compare the original album with the new release and listen for the difference even with the ticks and pops on original lp..happy listening!!

  • @shelleylyme6402
    @shelleylyme6402 День назад +1

    Fantastic review!
    Best Wishes from England 😊

  • @VinylPiper
    @VinylPiper День назад +2

    Thanks for this.. i like it better than the OG I compared it to. Mine had a little warp though.. This is what i grew up with.. it sounds great..

    • @SafeAndSoundTXAudioExcursion
      @SafeAndSoundTXAudioExcursion  День назад +1

      @@VinylPiper that warp is a feature to remind you of the old days! :)

    • @R3TR0R4V3
      @R3TR0R4V3 День назад

      Mine has very, very slight warp too, nothing crazy or worth fussing about. I'm super happy with this overall and it felt great to get a "new" Beatles album on release day. 🙂

  • @michaeltrochalakis6526
    @michaeltrochalakis6526 10 часов назад

    Just picked up the black vinyl issue of Meet the Beatles. Ran it through my Kirmuss Audio ultrasonic machine. Sounds fantastic! Dead quiet vinyl, nice loud dynamic cut! Better than any US mono version I have ever heard.

  • @christenuta3743
    @christenuta3743 День назад +2

    Great review. I bought just Meet The Beatles on black vinyl. Where would popular music be without the Beatles? ~~/)~~

  • @FleagleSangria
    @FleagleSangria День назад +2

    Thanks for the review David🎸✌🏻👍🏻
    Being born in the mid 60’s I did not grow up with The Beatles US albums. I did not get into the proper albums until the UK versions found in the cd breadbox came out. So that was what 25 yrs after the fact? Point is my ears go with the UK versions as what I am use to. So not much attraction for me with these.
    I am curious sort of as to how these new reissues differ from the original Capitols. “Better” being relative of course. So I might get Meet The Beatles to compare to my brothers old US original. But really for a listener fan like me I just do not have the “Oh that is so cool, just like I remember on the radio back in 1964!” nostalgia reference point. And like you said..the original Capital Dextorization sounds like a turd anyway. And you know what they said about those..can’t really polish them.
    My opinion on mixes..
    My philosophy on prefered mix is “whichever serves the music best”.
    There are some anemic sounding mono mixes and some stereo mixes that are bizzare sounding. And some mono mixes that sound better than a bizzare “why did they set the drums way over there?” or “Sounds like the guitar is in a tunnel” stereo mixes. And the same can be true for mono vs stereo in that the mono mix sounds like its recorded in a tin can compared to the stereo mix.
    Dylans early albums sound much more balanced in mono for instance. Early soul usually sounds much better in mono. Yet “Help!” by The Beatles sounds better with the stereo mix.
    Mono gets a bad rap due to the idea that soundstage is always compromised. Which is a myth. Listen to The Animals in mono, or Kinks. Sounds like the band is right in front of you. Some mono mixed albums vs the stereo counterpart actually have such a great mix that they sound bigger than the poorer stereo.
    Same thing with The Beatles. Some of the mono stuff is powerfully right up front, just the way a band would sound with a good soundfield. The Beatles are such an example of there are a few scattered stereo versions of early songs that do sound better. But all in all mono is the way for the early stuff. “Rubber Soul” in stereo? Terrible. Mono 100% better (hoping Giles gets this one right when he demixes, remixes, puts it in a blender or whatever he does to get a decent stereo mix)
    If one has never heard the “Revolution” mono single vs the stereo, then I would highly recommend it.
    Hendrix “Stone Free” in mono is a monster. Blows the stereo version away. And I hate that phrase “blows it away”, but in this case it is true.
    Then sometimes both mixes are great but just different experiences due to different elements of the instruments being more present. The White album is a classic example. I like both stereo and mono depending on the day of the latter album. Same with Sgt Peppers. I like the mono Barclay of “Are You Experienced?” and I also enjoy the more psyche feel of the stereo version. Ones rockin’ the other is more trippy.
    See ya buddy🎸✌🏻

  • @gregoryfeo6837
    @gregoryfeo6837 11 часов назад

    Born in the early 50s this (MTB) is great without the snap crackle pops alone!

  • @KINGCOLE1965
    @KINGCOLE1965 День назад +1

    I got my copy of meet the Beatles and Beatles 65 and the early Beatles, I was never a fan of the US album’s because of the Capitol Records treatment of the set list of the songs and the Dave Dexter Reverb. But I have to say that they sound pretty good I was surprised. I’ll get other albums next week without the Beatles Story

  • @styles8007
    @styles8007 День назад

    Outstanding post. I'm patiently awaiting my box set and "Meet The Beatles"on blue vinyl. I purchased both of these through JPC online music stores out of Germany. They both were cheaper. So, with said again, thanks for the post. Hopefully one day Apple/Universal will re-release Mono box set.

  • @MysticRobC5
    @MysticRobC5 8 часов назад

    For my fellow Canadians, Sunrise Records carries this version. It's not cheap, but they have it.

  • @gratefuldawgs2738
    @gratefuldawgs2738 22 часа назад

    This hooray made me dig out my Dads OG’s. He had half in stereo and half mono turned out. The box is a hard pass for me, but fun to see the excitement✌️😎 Thanks David for the Review

  • @68wrko
    @68wrko День назад

    First time listener to your video. I started listening to the Beatles in the early to mid 70's with first purchase of Red & Blue compilations, and have progressed to where you are now. Very informative and educational video. I have to agree with you on all fronts.
    You lean to the original release and subsequent reissues being the better one to have than most of the new re-releases and remixed and remastered versions that have occurred in the last 15 or so years. They are trying to resell old product, and if you are lucky to have good copies of originals or reissues that later came out, or foreign pressings, you are lucky and should be ok.
    Spot on on the Capital and mono versions being made to sound "hot" for AM radio, because that is where music was heard back then. In '64, any major Top 40 radio station used heavy compression and reverb for a larger than lif sound. All teens listend to the these Boss Radio formated sations to hear the latest rock and roll. If you had a true"hi-fi" or "stereo" back then, you were in the minority and most who had it were older men who listened to classical and jazz, stereo reproduction was in its infancy for rock and roll, and even the engineers who mastered and mixed to stereo were just getting use to how to image the music as most of it was on 1, 2,3, or 4 tracks. A lot of the music was "folded down" from a stereo or multi-track mix.
    But here in the US, I remember buying this music in the 70's, being in that "stereo" format listening to it at home and on early FM stations that were now broadcasting in stereo in the early to mid 70's. Having first heard the Parlofone albums, I agree, they just sound better and more natural w/o the reverb, echo and added compression that made the music a "wall of sound" to the listener listening it on AM or a mono or cheap record player at home. But that was the way it was listened to.
    Based on your advice, and what I ave now for the Beatles (an other major artists), I will probably pass on buying these, as it just seems more now like a duplication, or alternative version (sounding better or not) or a feel good purchase, when in reality, I would probably pull the orignal, reissue, or Parlophone version, with its flaws and oddities and all simply becasue that is how I remembered it and eperienced it. Now if you are 45 and under, and do not have the library, or the memory of what the Beatles sounded like on radio or on other mediums growing up, then this would be a good purchase for you. I still want to purchase the individual albums..............................

  • @rkmklz7562
    @rkmklz7562 День назад

    My Go To is With The Beatles 2009 Remastered CD 😊...a mono record..is like a Phototype of what is the come... like one that is made before the official release 😊

  • @automatedelectronics6062
    @automatedelectronics6062 День назад

    I just got my copy today but haven't had a chance to listen to it. I have original copies of both the mono and stereo version and am anxious to compare the mono versions.
    I, like many, had just a plain old record player, a good one, but it was mono. Because of this I got the mono versions of everything. I didn't have a stereo until 1965.
    When stereo was available, and I could afford the extra dollar, that's what I bought after December 1965. Like you, I just don't have a place for mono and prefer stereo, if available.

  • @AverageNerdGuy
    @AverageNerdGuy День назад

    Interesting, I live in Fort Worth, I picked up mine at Target this morning right after they opened and ALSO found the sound a but shrill if you will. I am glad I put off buying the box. I own many 1st Odeon Japanese pressings which are my personal favorites. I was reluctant to share my feelings as I wasn't alive for the originals being new but sounds like my ears were spot on in this. Thanks for the excellent review, I also will most likely not be buying more.

  • @rogerscalf231
    @rogerscalf231 День назад

    Finally, someone old enough to know what they're talking about, to tell you the facts about these packages, that might be more interesting to us old guys, than constant, boring rehashes of things have known for 60 yrs now. I was 10 living in New York City, when The Beatles first came to America, February 7th,1964 and I saw them for the first time in my LIFE, on "The CBS EVENING NEWS" with Walter Cronkite, as the group was being helped to load they're instruments in the limousine from J.F.K., on their way to conquer America!

  • @timheine5816
    @timheine5816 5 часов назад

    What type of mono cartridge are you using?

  • @boilinabag
    @boilinabag 19 часов назад

    new mastering cutters, and the amps driving the cutter are wayyyy better than the older cuts. also, unlike captiol recs. they had the original emi masters to use, and use the new multi band limters that are amazing. i work at a place that has a cutter. also, mono was the way they did it.
    the 24bit bluray kicks ass.

    • @SafeAndSoundTXAudioExcursion
      @SafeAndSoundTXAudioExcursion  9 часов назад

      @@boilinabag this video might interest you as these used the Capitol tapes: ruclips.net/video/rxwLDYXVKiw/видео.htmlsi=ux5fWbsVz5k_77vH

  • @anthonyvigliotti6560
    @anthonyvigliotti6560 22 часа назад

    Thank you for an HONEST review of this album. I have the Capitol albums in many configurations. From original mono and stereo pressings to many reissues thru the years. I have held out from buying any of these new versions because I have pristine copies of these albums in mono plus the 2004 and 2006 cd boxes on the Capitol original mono and stereo versions on one cd for each album. My question was, "How do these 2024 monos compare?" You answer that question here, and, quite candidly, it's what I suspected. I am not interested in another unboxing and hearing "how beautiful" the package is. The bottom line for me is what's in the groove. I watched a few podcasters review this and one exclaimed, "This new Meet The Beatles version is like hearing the album for the first time!" 🤡 Uh, no... don't think so. 😂 Thanks again for a good and candid review.

  • @cymbaldrum
    @cymbaldrum День назад

    Does anyone know if these versions were cut on a mono or stereo lathe? Not truly mono versions if cut with stereo cutting heads! Just two tracks of mono which is fine of course. Just wondering.

    • @SafeAndSoundTXAudioExcursion
      @SafeAndSoundTXAudioExcursion  День назад

      @@cymbaldrum the RUclips Video “Kevin Reeves on the 2024 US Mono Beatles box set” does not specify the lathe used or whether stereo vs mono. He only mentions is being cut by a sapphire stylus.

  • @richchannel-1311
    @richchannel-1311 День назад +1

    I am curious to know if this was a joint effort between Apple and Capitol or just Capitol? Also, was there any remixing and/or remastering?

    • @SafeAndSoundTXAudioExcursion
      @SafeAndSoundTXAudioExcursion  День назад

      @@richchannel-1311 although Apple Corp has licensed the releases and has the copyright, this is purely branded Capitol Records except for a small written text around the interior ring of the label next to the Rainbow where it says “This sound recording is owned by Calderstone Productions Ltd. ( a division of Universal Music Group)/Apple Corps Ltd

  • @Slotnikoff
    @Slotnikoff День назад

    Actually, compatible stereo wasn't an option until the late '60s. There were warnings printed on stereo records before then that strongly stated that such should NOT be played on any other equipment but a stereo unit. I received a stereo version of 'Rubber Soul' as a Chanukah present in 1965... but it had to be exchanged for a mono copy since every record player in my family home was a hi-fi monaural set-up.

    • @SafeAndSoundTXAudioExcursion
      @SafeAndSoundTXAudioExcursion  9 часов назад

      I realized my statement was backwards in that you could plant mono on stereo but the reverse was not advised. Thanks

  • @cjay2
    @cjay2 15 часов назад

    Hey, let's all put out a video about the Beatles mono release.

  • @beatmet2355
    @beatmet2355 10 часов назад

    I’ve been listening since I bought the CDs back in the nineties, so the US albums still throw me off when I occasionally listen to them. I likewise prefer stereo, the sound definitely seems to be more open and defined. The first time I heard AHDN in stereo on the 2009, I heard bongos for the first time.
    I own nearly every mono of these albums, plus the Capitol CDs so I will probably only get the Target MTB and AHDN. Both of my vinyl copies of those are in rough shape, especially the covers.

  • @philipciulla1417
    @philipciulla1417 День назад +3

    Dave, What is the red digital display behind you??? It's wigging me out!

  • @rogerscalf231
    @rogerscalf231 День назад

    Great review! Confirms my suspicions I had about this package, but didn't hesitate for a second, ordering George Harrisons " Living in the Material World " 50th Anniversary edition super deluxe boxset. THAT'S THE ONE TO HAVE !!! I've been a Beatlemaniac, transitioned to, Beatles freak in the 70's, and at 71 yrs of age TODAY NOVEMBER 22, still a Beatlemaniac/ Collector/ freak and KNOWS The Beatles are more popular than that religious nut with the Desiples hanging around. You know, the "thick and ordinary ones" !

  • @jamesdickinson1397
    @jamesdickinson1397 День назад

    Great review. I also got the blue version. The mono is not my favorite. I enjoy stereo a lot more. I played it and was underwhelmed by mono. The album is a classic. I have the US Albums CDs from 2014 and the mono sounds so good, almost as good as the stereo. Yes its the UK version I know. I am glad I bought this as it is very nice. Yes, I agree that the box set was never a choice for me, way over priced. I also ordered the Second Album and Beatles '65 as well. They are supposed to arrive tomorrow. Again thanks for sharing your honest and informative views. Take care sir.

  • @jlcougilljr
    @jlcougilljr День назад

    Well hello David, hope your doing well brother! i agree , we are a product of how we were raised and exposed to and like you mentioned we all pretty grew up with those US Capitol pressings, so we were certainly (programmed) for those pressings and sound. me personally i didn't even know the UK pressings were different until probably '85 or '86 when i was finishing up high school and when i started getting really more hardcore into music and other genres like jazz, prog, etc. and listened a lot more intently. now i've always loved mono, especially The Beatles, but for me a lot of that depends on the band, the pressing and how it was originally recorded and mastered too, some are great and some are shit-lol. this new box set i've preached from the very start that instead of this crap, they really dropped the ball and should have just did another production run of the "Beatles In Mono" box set from 9-10 years ago or whenever it was, they REALLY dropped the ball and could have made SO many fans happy with doing that box again, that thirst was NEVER satisfied and now new sets cost what? 3 grand give or take? that's crazy! hell! until this video i didn't even know target was doing this blue vinyl exclusive ,BUT, i was able just now to ordered 2 copies which i'll be picking up later today-YAYYY!!! i'm like you though and it's more of an interest piece for me with the added material ,and, if i was going to get any or even just one of these new releases it would be the Meet The Beatles being the first album and all ,and it's blue vinyl. so i'll just hold back the extra copy as a gift or resell it to maybe hopefully just cover my cost and if i'm lucky will end up with the copy i'm keeping for free or next to nothing, well see. with that said my friend, i'm still very much enjoying my YES album i won this summer from you, it's certainly my nicest and go to copy for that album! have a great weekend my friend and i'll be watching your content as i do daily/weekly. see ya brother, Jerry

  • @krwd
    @krwd День назад

    Thanks David, i bit the bullet and ordered this set i was not going to buy it, but have decided to get it. 😵

  • @MarkMiller-i8q
    @MarkMiller-i8q День назад +2

    Capital honcho Dave Dexter didn't like the way the Parlophone records sounded, which is why he added embellishments that he thought sounded more alive or exciting. American Beatles's fans at the time didn't know the difference because, as you said, we didn't know Parlophone from Shmarlophone. My Capital albums were bought in the 1970s, all in stereo. I've since added the British versions (all in stereo) of Please Please Me (the Beatles first album), Help (on CD), Rubber Soul, Revolver, White Album, Sergeant Pepper, Abbey Road and Let It Be. Of course, as every Beatles fan knows, from Pepper on, the music was the same, and Abbey Road never had a mono mix. There's one thing that I haven't heard mentioned about the Capital and Parlophone versions - Capital listed the time for each song, where Parlophone didn't.

  • @romans52345-cy3tq
    @romans52345-cy3tq 13 часов назад

    I got Meet the Beatles! on CD. Vinyl records have been out of fashion since 1984

  • @rkmklz7562
    @rkmklz7562 День назад

    I hope they will bring out the stereo version of Meet The Beatles....I have With The Beatles on CD in Stereo 😊

  • @gregoryfeo6837
    @gregoryfeo6837 11 часов назад

    Mono or Fold Downs?

  • @Dibbs6
    @Dibbs6 13 часов назад

    That's why I haven't and will not put out the money for the box set. I have no reason for it, I have my original copies of all these albums and I am content with them. I might buy the Meet The Beatles exclusive just for collectors reasons.

  • @freightdawg6762
    @freightdawg6762 День назад

    excellent

  • @Stonecutter334
    @Stonecutter334 День назад

    Putting lipstick on a pig made me laugh. For those of us in the USA this release is definitely a bit weird. We’ve been running from these since we found out what we’ve been missing.
    But i do kinda have a soft spot for the second lp. Man I played the hell out of that as a kid.

  • @davidpetersen7091
    @davidpetersen7091 23 часа назад

    Another very good review.
    Mr. Pete-------->
    aging hippie

  • @kennethandrysiak4130
    @kennethandrysiak4130 День назад +1

    Dave (we know best what the record consuming public needs to hear) Dexter should have never been allowed to modify the releases. George Martin, The Beatles, and whoever was in charge of mastering the Parlophone discs in England were and are the final ‘sign off’ arbiters of the product. Martin & The Beatles should have sued Capitol Records for the sonic mutilations done.
    The Capitol product is fatiguing. Always has been. Since AM radio was so heavily processed to begin with… Dexter and the ‘geniuses’ at Capitol ‘added’ an ingredient to the stew that was unnecessary and unwelcomed. We (the American consumer) have been stuck, for the most part, with this ever since. Short of having extra disposable income and going on a never ending rabbit trail search for ‘the best sounding copy of _______ from The Beatles (lots of work involved)…. most default to just give up.

  • @premchaitanyahoeve7701
    @premchaitanyahoeve7701 День назад

    I agree. It is called a mono box? Of the 68 tracks 25 are really mono mixes. 31 are folddown mixes, meaning they are mixed down to mono from stereo originals. 12 tracks are unique mono mixes especially made by George Martin for the US market and are not on the UK originals!! On MEET THE BEATLES only I Want to Hold Your Hand and This Boy are true mono mixes. The rest are folddown mixes from the UK stereo version. On THE BEATLES SECOND ALBUM Thank You Girl is a unique George Martin mono mix, not on the UK version. She Loves You and I'll Get You are mono mixes (better than the UK originals). You Can't Do That, I Call Your Name, and Long Tall Sally are the unique mono mixes by George Martin. The rest are folddown (fake mono) mixes. AL tracks A HARD DAY'S NIGHT are true mono mixes. I'll Cry Instead is longer than the UK version and And I Love Her is a unique single tracked McCartney vocal. On the UK version his voice is double tracked. On SOMETHING NEW is also the the single tracked version, but on the stereo version of the album it is double tracked. Anytime At All and When I Get Home are unique George Martin versions for the Capital Market. The rest is the same as on the UK album. On Beatles '65 I'll Be Back is a unique mono mix by Martin. I Feel Fine and She's A Woman are unique U.S. mono mixes too, but on the stereo album folded up from mono tapes to stereo. The Eaerly Beatles is complete foldeddown from stereo tapes to mono. I'm from the Netherlands, so I apologize for my English. I am a fan since She Loves You (August '63)

    • @SafeAndSoundTXAudioExcursion
      @SafeAndSoundTXAudioExcursion  9 часов назад

      You’re right! Guess they consider the end result is the same signal coming out of both speakers vs. how they got there.

  • @jnagarya519
    @jnagarya519 День назад

    it was not the technology. It was the standard recording method: all vocals on one of the two tracks, all music on the other, then -- this being all along the goal -- mixed as mono, because the market and the promotional medium -- radio -- were MONO.
    When 4-tracks are mentioned at the time, it was a second two-track machine for overdubbing.
    The problem with stereo -- try the first "Young Rascals" LP -- is that it dissipated the energy, the punch, of the mono.

    • @SafeAndSoundTXAudioExcursion
      @SafeAndSoundTXAudioExcursion  9 часов назад

      Agree that early stereo was rough. But what Capitol (Dave Dexter) did to the US releases in compression and reverb really makes his efforts sound even worse on good equipment IMO.

    • @jnagarya519
      @jnagarya519 6 часов назад

      @@SafeAndSoundTXAudioExcursion You know, there are a lot of people who never heard a transistor radio who nonetheless talk about their "shitty" sound quality.
      Same goes for your comment that "early stereo was rough". Are you talking about the F-A-K-E "stereo" versions released on Capitol? PAY ATTENTION:
      The first 4 UK "Beatles" LPs were EXCLUSIVELY MONO. This is how it worked:
      1. The STANDARD was already to record all the vocals on one track, and all the music on the other track. That made it easy to correct errors of either, instead of having to correct ALL of it. (Recording the music, then recording the vocals, was not a new process.)
      2. When there is talk of "4-track" during that period it refers to the fact that a SEPARATE 2-track machine was used for overdubs.
      3. As the MARKET was MONO, and the promotional medium -- radio -- was MONO, the intent for the recording, from the outset, was MONO. I.e., the two-track recording was NOT STEREO -- it was PRE-MIXED MONO.
      4. The Capitol F-A-K-E "stereo" was made by running the MONO track to TWO tracks, slowing one of the two down a fraction of a second to produce the ILLUSION of stereo. And typically the low frequencies were on one track, and the high on the other. It also caused an "echo".
      5. There was nothing at all "rough" about the original EMI recordings by George Martin. It was "old" technology compared with the US -- he wrote of hearing THREE-track MONO on a visit to the US -- but it was expertly used. Today's engineers are impressed with how dead on accurate they are as to speed of the taping.
      READ George Martin's _All You Need is Ears_ -- it is in print. You'll find in it a plain-English discussion of the 25 years of recording technology advancements BEFORE "The Beatles" first walking into the studio. And then you'll find his details about how "The Beatles" recordings were made. The FIRST STEREO recording was the "Help!" LP -- and as it was their first it was, as Martin said, "a mess" as a mix.
      And where were "The Beatles" on the issue? John Lennon encouraged listening to the MONO "Sgt. Pepper's".
      "The Beatles" were in the studio for the MONO mixes, NOT for the stereo. What does that tell you about the INTENTIONS of recording in the context of the MARKET and the promotional medium, BOTH being MONO?
      Do this experiment: find the "Young Rascals" first LP in both MONO and STEREO. Listen to "Good Lovin'" -- it begins, "1-2-3-4". The MONO mix is potent -- high energy and focused. The STEREO mix pans the numbers left-and-right: 1 (left) 2 (right) 3 (left) 4 (right). The STEREO mix _dissipates_ the energy.
      What should be done is to provide an actual complete US releases, in both mono and stereo, but properly remastered. And available on CD so the pops, clicks, and wear of vinyl can be eliminated. Yes: groove and stylus, in addition to adding distortion, begin to wear with very first playing.

  • @gregoryfeo6837
    @gregoryfeo6837 11 часов назад

    Swish sound?

    • @SafeAndSoundTXAudioExcursion
      @SafeAndSoundTXAudioExcursion  9 часов назад

      It’s on the same radial location across most of Side 2. Just some soft crackling (is another way to describe)

  • @Secession1900
    @Secession1900 День назад

    At 6:06 an incorrect statement is made about the compatibility of stereo records with mono record players. “They always told you, you could play stereo records on a mono player no problem” I don’t know where you heard this but it was not true. Most mono phono cartridges of the late 50s and early 1960s lacked sufficient vertical compliance to follow the vertical groove modulations. This doesn't just mean they could not play stereo. I will quote the warning that appeared on the inner sleeve of all Decca records of the time. “ Records whose labels bear the words Stereophonic or Stereo must be played with a pickup designed for stereophonic records using a sapphire or diamond stylus with a tip radius of between .005 and .0007 in. Failure to do so is likely to result in poor sound and irreparable damage to record and stylus.”

    • @SafeAndSoundTXAudioExcursion
      @SafeAndSoundTXAudioExcursion  День назад

      Mea Culpa! You are correct. I was 180 degrees off in my statement as I meant to say you could play Mono records on a Stereo player! I don't recall there being a lot said back then about NOT playing Stereo on a Mono player, but your Decca inner sleeve is revealing. Seems that info on the outer jacket may have been more helpful. But I guess ruining records could generate sales! Thank you for the feedback.

  • @craigwarner6156
    @craigwarner6156 День назад

    I've never owned any Capitol albums because i live in England and they are hard to find and i just thought the UK were superior. I got Meet The Beatles today and i wasn't impressed with the sound at all. The only good thing about the one i played today was that it was nice and loud compared to the 2014 mono UK albums but apart from that i wasn't impressed. Exactly the same as yourself I had enough of the song after side 1.I also didn't get the box but I've bought MTB,EB,65 . The box isn't worth it at all. I cherry picked the ones i wanted. I own all the UK original 60s mono albums and stereo albums and all the 87 CDs and all the 2009 CDs and all the 7 years deluxe box sets but i won't be buying anymore of these Capitols after these 3. That's all i desire, i got no desire to get them all or collect the originals like i have with the UK.

  • @monaural2.988
    @monaural2.988 19 часов назад

    Where Capitol really screwed up badly was not just taking the Vee-Jay issue of “Introducing The Beatles” and just applying the Capitol logo to that.I absolutely Loathe the release “The Early Beatles”, which is a butchery of a butchery to start with. There are some of us that will never forgive Dave Dexter for his anti-Rock sentiment in 1963.

  • @mr.george7687
    @mr.george7687 21 час назад

    Not a fan of Mono. I'll stick w/ the UK stereo versions.

  • @ceejaydeesoozaa
    @ceejaydeesoozaa День назад

    nice nod to JFK. im asian and im affected by his death up till this day

  • @Cbcw76
    @Cbcw76 День назад

    You would certainly know about lipstick on a pig. Personally.

  • @mr.milehi9883
    @mr.milehi9883 3 часа назад

    Even the Canadian versions of this record are much better sounding than what you've got there that you know this. I really wanted to buy one then I realized. Why would I spend money on something that isn't even true mono except for two tracks Todd that didn't come this far to buy inferior fold Downs of poorly mastered wonderful music. It's ridiculous that the only thing they can offer for way too much money is that two LP interview disc. You have a better application of that to LP set as your floor mat to step on when you get out of the shower! Good job. Still love the cool blue vinyl. Just won't buy that.

  • @mikemulholland2862
    @mikemulholland2862 3 часа назад

    IF YOU CAN'T STAND THESE RECORDS SO MUCH WHY DID YOU BUY ANY? YOU SAY YOU'RE A BEATLES FAN? I HIGHLY DOUBT IT FROM YOUR "SPEECH".

  • @bobburroughs6241
    @bobburroughs6241 День назад +4

    It's only an American mash up, not the original album, who cares.

    • @mrturtleturtle7878
      @mrturtleturtle7878 День назад +2

      I think it still carries some history, and the meet the Beatles album is probably their best American album, maybe yesterday and today.

    • @R3TR0R4V3
      @R3TR0R4V3 День назад

      _Lots_ of Americans, obviously! 😅
      It was "original" to them for many years, perhaps until UK pressings became the standard in the late 80's. 🤷🏻
      I grew up with the UK versions though, so that's what I'm used to.

    • @jamesdickinson1397
      @jamesdickinson1397 День назад +1

      I care.

  • @tiborosz1825
    @tiborosz1825 День назад

    I just can't get into 60s pop Beatles aimed at teenage girls. Seriously ..listening to these in your 50s 60s is embarrasing. 😅