KD ironically will be the only NBA legend that will have his championships used by people to argue against his greatness as opposed to in favor of his greatness.
I meant all of his championships as a whole. Kobe still won two without Shaq and LeBron won championships before the Bubble Ring. KD's the only player where all of his rings negatively impacted how ppl view his career
I think KD’s legacy isn’t complicated at all: One of the greatest combinations of talent and genetics we’ve ever seen. A hard worker as well. But, he was never mentally tough or capable of being a leader.
This right here is facts, KD had the stats, he had the teammates, he had the game, OP said the warriors was the most logical move is crazy teams such as clippers at that time, Atlanta, etc could have shown how he could lead a team
@@isaiaheto799The Hawks were in purgatory at the time. Why would he have gone there? The Clippers weren't the best option either due to CP3 and Blake's health. The Spurs were already full. The Celtics or the Warriors were his best options at the time.
Sadly what hurt KDs legacy was winning chips with another team. Leading OKC to 1 chip would’ve meant more. Then Draymond berated him by telling him that they basically used him to win 2 additional chips. Then GS won 1 AFTER he left. It’s unfortunate because KD should go down as top 10 all time.
That's what happens when you join an already stacked team in order to get your chips. Not to mention it was the team that bounced him from the playoffs that previous post-season.
Whats the last "stacked" team with their start 5 line up filled by 5 drafted players on last 4 years to win a championship? Not mention HC that never coach a drible in his life. If this team was drafted today, 99% of people would be asking to trade Curry, Thompson, Green and 4 1st round future picks for Lauri Markkanem...
@@YL2019 Before... They only drafted Curry because Knicks refuse Minnesota propose to switch their pick 6 to Knicks pick 8, after Rubio Pick. At this point, Knicks, that are in love for Curry, were very sure that Wolves would not draft another guard (and they were wrong). Warriors even were an issue as they never would draft a point guard with Ellis on prime (and they were punished for two blunders in a row).
Imagine joining a guy that defeated you. Can't win without the guy, while the guy wins twice without you with the last win against a team that SWEPT you 😂
@@sorcierenoire8651 yeah sure he can. kevin is by most advanced stats and metrics the better player. the narrative of leadership and killer mentality are most insufferable notions in the nba. ever since that team has been together draymond has been the leader - inot that it matters because it doesn't but kevin is objectively better than steph yet he's been facing the most slander. it takes talent, a cohesive supporting cast, insane luck and sometimes even injuries to win an title.
This lacks context. The guy that defeated him (ONE time in both their careers) requested KD to join him when Lebron defeated him the next series. That same guy got his first championship by defeating an injured team (something KD didnt get the luxury of having his first finals trip). Even less context in your last point about the Celtics loss. KD had a horrid coach that season and he was the 7th seed. The Nets would've been out of the playoffs had KD not came back from injury to carry that team to the playoffs that year. Everybody was hoping like hell that the Nets missed to playoffs so they can trash KD, but he still made the playoffs despite Steve Nash coaching them out of the 2nd seed when KD ended up out of the lineup.
You’re really smoking that pack. Your argument about KD needing the Warriors as much as they need him falls flat when you consider that Warriors won chips before and after KD. KD has not. Furthermore, Klay also got injured in the 2019 NBA finals. It wasn’t just Durant. The way you’re telling the narrative makes it seem like the Warriors were scrubs until KD came to ‘save’ their legacy when it was the other way around.
Warriors 1st chip without KD: Lebron with injured team. KD never got the luxury of an injured team in the finals Warriors 2nd chip withou KD: Lebron wasnt on the opposing team. Very next season they faced a 38 year old Lebron without KD in the playoffs and LOST.
@@smoothsavage2870 I don’t even know where to begin… First of all, injuries and suspensions are part of the game. I made the point that Klay also got injured in 2019, because the way the creator made it seem, KD going down was THE reason why the Warriors were losing. Obviously having KD is better than not, but it wasn’t just him going down that meant the warriors lost the chip. Like I said, they were dealing with other injuries. Secondly, what does KD not having the “luxury” of not facing an injured team have to do with anything? KD has been in Super Teams for various seasons throughout the years and hasn’t even reached the final after leaving the Warriors. The fact remains that he hasn’t won a championship outside of the Warriors. If he were so good as this video makes him out to be, he should at least have a finals appearance. As for 2023, anyone that watched that series will say that AD was the player that made the difference, not LeBron. Stop meat riding. You make it seem like LeBron is the Warriors stopper. They didn’t even make the playoffs that year, so I don’t know what you wanted him to do.
@@Arponare Injuries arent alway a part of the game. Everybody doesnt get to benefit from them like Steph did in 2015. If injuries were a "part of the game" everyone would benefit equally. They dont. KD would've been a champ in 2012 if he got lucky enough to face Lebron with 2 members of his championship core injured. KD does have a finals appearance without the Warriors btw. He was in the 2012 finals. Lebron beat Steph again on a less powerful team than the Cavs in 2023. He's a Warrior destroyer so long as his own team is healthy and KD aint on the Warriors roster. KD definitely save their legacy. They'd have been known as the only team to blow a 3-1 lead in the finals. They got crap about that the whole offseason, even after KD signed there. Nobody saw KD as "just a luxury" until after the Warriors starting destroying teams in the playoffs in 2017.
@@KobeBryant-m9yur first to find out check out the other videos im trying to do this every time cause i wanna see if I don’t comment what people will say but i need people to see first
My question is why did Durant hate Nash when he begged for the Nets to hire him. Durant is always using excuses instead of he is the reason why the team is failing
Things change. Durant and Nash probably were close during the Golden State years and thought he would be a good coach. (Or he thought he would opt into playing KD's style). As we all know now, Nash sucks as a coach.
@@jaffrry5120 kevin durant has never been a good evaluator of someones talent or ability. thats why he has had 2 failed superteams since golden state but when a team puts pieces around him without his input they are much more successful
@@walterreed5849 yeah which is why he has always failed when it comes to these stuff. What he wanted in Brooklyn just won't cut it anymore for a championship. They could have won with raw talent but it wouldn't have been feasible going forward.
Kevin Durants move to golden state was not logical. It was anti competitive. Even now, eight whole years later, it IS the weakest move by a franchise player, a superstar ever made. And it doesn’t matter how many years pass along, it is STILL the weakest move by a superstar ever. He jumped to a team that went 73 - 9. He jumped to the best team in the league, he jumped to a team that had the 1st ever unanimous MVP in league history. He jumped to a team that was literally one game from repeating as champions. Kevin knew what he was doing just like the warriors knew what they were doing when they asked him to come. Weak. Kevin is still a great player no doubt but the move to the warriors was assembling the avengers, nobody was beating that.
@@duangc3280 Let’s straighten this up. The next year after Wade won his chip which was 06 - 07 the Miami heat finished with a regular season record 44 - 38 whilst being CLEAN swept in the first round of the playoffs. 07 - 08 The Miami heat finished with a record of 15 - 67 likely due to Wade being injured. They didn’t even make the playoffs. 08 - 09 The Miami Heat finished with 43 - 39 losing in the first round of the playoffs in a seven game series to the ATL hawks. Then in 09 - 10 the Miami Heat finished with a record 47 - 35 losing ONCE AGAIN in the first round in a gentlemen’s sweep to the Boston Celtics. As you can see with FACTS what lebron did compared to Kevin Durant is nowhere near the same thing playa.
Kd is that guy you want on your team for the finals his regular season won’t be well acknowledged but his play off performance ends with finials mvp. GSW Durant was the best player.
I fault KD for leaving OKC after being up 3-1 against Golden State. However, the cheap ass billionaire owner should’ve paid the luxury tax to keep him, Harden, and Westbrook together. That was our Thunder best chance at winning a title. Hopefully, SGA can get us there now.
as it explained by the video, the way OKC playing their stars is so bad, that's why Durant move to GSW was the best move as a player ever, even if Durant stays in OKC they will wash Durant and Westbrook. seing SGA OKC doing well i think OKC GM learn from the mistake they made during KD, Westbrook, Harden era.
@@quintusdiast3477nah bro you can't talk like that , Every season is a chance to revaluate your mistakes and climb back to the top but sadly for KD, He left OKC when he was pretty close to giving them a title and went to a ready made warriors team!!! OKC literally had that X Factor to win a championship with him buh he gave up on them and now literally people hate him for joining the warriors😢
@@chronostv2071 KD took OKC to the finals, conf finals twice. it seems OKC can't build a championship team around KD. and look OKC post KD not even contender, until they rebuild the whole roster.
KD has changed the game with his influence of how to smash the league in shooting, dribbling and scoring if you are in the tall of the center i think this influenced many tall players who doesn't want to play like old center player, the next generation of the players will always respect and appreciate KD playing his game like Wembanyama, KD really changed the game for those players
I don't think his legacy is tarnished - I just don't think folks think he really was ever at the level as a leader like LeBron and Curry. Folks want to pretend like after 2016 the Dubs weren't going to be contenders if nothing changed...of course they were. B2B finals, best regular season record in history, 2xMVP as Curry was easily the best player in the NBA those 2 seasons. Durant didn't make them contenders, they were already that and if anything favorites.....he made them unstoppable. In the end Durant benefited just as much from Curry as every other player on that team and thats fine. Curry was more than happy to enable Durant in order to win chips, thats why he is a leader. More than any of that though, the Warriors were and will always be Curry's team. That wasn't ever going to change, and it seemed Durant wasn't happy with that.
Curry's not a leader though. Never has been. Draymond has always been the leader of the Warriors. Had Curry been the leader, there are a lot of situations with Draymond that would've been handled by Steph. For instance all the nut kicks Draymond did in 2016 that led to him getting ejected in the finals. You dont allow a player to run rampant like that if you're a leader.
We all know how impactful Durant is during that GSW days. He just fits, everything he does compliments the team. And that team up will be one of the best team up we will ever see.
It’s crazy to think that the Golden State Warriors are the ONLY team that fully unlocked KD’s potential as an elite player yet he did not even try to recreate that with another team, Imagine playing to a system that suits your offensive playstyle yet you do not want to utilize nor try to adapt some of the plays you learned. It puts into perspective how GSW and Steve Kerr’s style of playing is and forever will be one of the greatest style of playing ball alongside the likes of Coach Pop, Coach Phil, and many others.
You forget to add one thing that Curry is probably the best enabler of such system to apply. His constant and relentless offball movement with the capacity to draw opps defenders to overreact,, with his willingness to randomly set screens, not holding the ball too long and a very willing passer. Not many stars playing such a brand of basketball that makes other players thrive to their best ability, generating so many easy points. Kerr-Curry-Green is such a deadly combo for how they managed to unlock the best ability of each other, creating a foundation of a team that can't truly be replicated even until now I'd acclaim.
Im KD fan my favorite player in the league I thought this was a fair assessment of his legacy so far but Kd is definitely going to go down as the best basketball Olympian ever that's for sure
Curry also scored majority of his points when warriors were up 10 kd scored when the6 were tied or down unlike the choker curry who can only score when there is no pressure 😂
That 2021-22 season was just humiliation for KD. Irving being an idiot, Harden getting his fat suit ready again, and Curry getting cheers and MVP chants in his own stadium. And Curry won another chip and a FMVP without KD
@@judyclarkson5887 Kareem & Oscar only played 4-5 years together at the beginning of the 70's, ending in 74. Steph himself didn't win multiple titles until he got KD. So idk what you're referring to.
The commentary on 2019 is just flat out wrong. Klay was also injured in that series, as well as Looney, and missed game 3 while clearly being hobbled in game 4, before tearing his ACL in the 3rd quarter of game 6 while the warriors were in the ascendancy. Theres a strong argument that the warriors win in 2019 without KD if they dont suffer multiple injuries. And this is without getting to replace KD on the roster with even a league average small forward. KD made the warriors unbeatable, but he was not the MVP of that team. It was always Steph (and Draymond) that made the team go.
I feel like when talking about the 2019 finals, what they glossed over was that Klay was also hurt before he went out for good in the game 6. I think if Klay had been healthy the whole series, they would have won even without KD.
So Klay didn't get injured in 2019 too you don't have to diminish the people around KD to raise him up.... KD is great for sure but he still has to prove it
@@ziegfeld4131 KD has only won with the warriors plus him going there is viewed as one of the weakest moves in the leagues history... He is a top 10 talent no doubt but he definitely still has something to prove... He needs to prove he can win without a super team... I respect KD though what I don't like about this video is it's trying to diminish Steph, Klay, Draymonds contributions they were not role players on that squad... KD is great but let's not take away from the warriors to cement his legacy
The description of the 2019 finals is very very inaccurate. That was a Warriors team with no depth (which they traded for KD) and multiple games without Klay Thompson. The Warriors were simply outmatched, despite Stephen Curry putting up 47 in a loss. If 2022 Andrew Wiggins was on the court, the Warriors may have won. Any summary of the Warriors that says KD was their best player isn’t accurate
So you're trying to tell us that the depth that they let walk for KD in 2016 wasnt replenished after 3 seasons? Sounds like BS. Andrew Wiggins wasnt stopping Kawhi Leonard that year. And KD was their best player. They to this day havent beaten Lebron (and a healthy team) without KD. They just lost to him in 2023. And Lebron is effing OLD. They STILL lost to him.
KD legacy is cemented. Best scorer in nba history, no one comes close especially at that height. It was his choice to join Warriors and took over playoffs/Finals. Some players are just pure hoopers but not born leaders. Appreciate greatness when hes still here ballin!
KD legacy genuinely intrigues me because like someone said I don’t think I’ve ever seen a player in arguably any sport win 2 chips and that he held AGAINST the way it’s been held against KD.
Man I know people hate that he went to the Warriors but KDs play style was made for that Warriors team. You could tell right away that KD was in his element
There's no denying that KD is an amazing player and one of the BEST, but he isn't one of the GREATEST in my eyes because he only ever joined superteams. His play was amazing at GSW but you could argue that any top tier player dropped into a 73-9 team suited to them with the only ever unanimous MVP would perform similarly.
Honestly Kevin was the best on the Warriors, I really wished he didn’t leave for Brooklyn the Warriors would’ve probably have won at least like 5 Championships if Kevin stayed on the Warriors❤
Talent of a Top 20 all time. Maybe even Top 10. But those chips will always have the shadow of being a weak move. And I think its right that fact counts against his legacy honestly
Thing is I love watching KD play. He’s so smooth and just a great shooter but I just felt he was doing a lot of whining. He’s definitely top ten no doubt. He’s just the one guy whose chips will be used against him which is crazy!!!!!!
KD should’ve never went to Golden State the way he did. But it was also his best situation and running mate. He should’ve stayed 10 toes down in his decision, never left and become a Bay Area Legend .
To me KD’s main problem was after the Warriors he had the awful Achilles injury, then underwhelmed on Brooklyn and Phoenix. So people more so remember him as selling out to get a ring, then always underwhelming in the playoffs, as opposed to his dominant Thunder years.
KD was never underwhelming in BK. His best year in BK (2021), his team was injured (Giannis injured one of his teamates personally). It was KD vs Giannis, MIddleton and Jrue that year. The next season the team imploded for multiple reasons and KD still played great in spite of that.
The conversation around basketball legacies has gotten so toxic that players can't even succeed without criticism anymore. KD is one of the greatest to touch a ball nobody can dispute that fact. That's all that matters to me as a fan.
Kd definitely could've had a shot being considered in the goat conversation, no matter how good he is we all know the community doesnt like superstars going to superteams, and yet kd has done it three times. If he had even just stayed with okc and not win a ring, he would most likely be more respected that way compared to his current legacy
KD is unequivocally one of the greatest NBA players of all time. However, such trade to the overpowered Warriors might seem coward for KD, I reckon KD was extraordinarily performing in those years and his accolades & prowess are to behold.
This video honestly hit the nail on the head. KD is without a doubt a phenomenal scorer… OKC let him down with trading Harden. Their system was good, but wasn’t that effective. Like seriously, how do they have a guy like Andre Roberson who consistently airballs 3s at the SG position. His move to GSW was weak, but it brought out some of the best basketball KD has ever played. His assist numbers were up, he found his defensive role as a helpside rim protector that even carries on till today in PHX. I totally agree with the video that the lack of success in Brooklyn wasn’t entirely his fault. Kyrie refusing to get vaccinated and play, Harden refusing to stay in shape. He practically willed the Bucks series to OT in game 7. Sadly, the fact of the matter is that his legacy is still stained. Not sure how his time in PHX will conclude, but I hope he cleans it up. He really is one of the most skilled players in NBA history, it would be a shame to have his accolades not reflect it.
Amazing player for sure. One of a kind but career management.. that part was pretty rocky for him. Still one of the greats. People are needlessly hating on this guy imo :D
KD showed what the best player can do on the best team.. His TS% was absolutely ridiculously unpredictable. I hate that team with a passion. If LeBron did what KD did, there would be no GOAT debate.
Despite how mad I was and how weak it was when he went to the Warriors, there’s no denying that he is one of the greatest talents that the sport of basketball has ever seen. His legacy was definitely ruined by that move, there’s no denying his talent.
KD going to 4 WCF and a finals with Russ as his co star makes Russ look really good now considering he hasn’t gone far in the playoffs after leaving the warriors
the thing is KD is a legitimately very good scorer and it became more easier for him when he is with the dubs, cos of curry, klay around him, its like choosing your poison, but he cant carry a team on his own
Joining the warriors was NOT the only logical option for KD…. How do you join a rival team that just beat you in the western conf finals? Same team that just won 73 games, same rival that you had down 3-1 a few months ago. It’s for THOSE reasons alone that it was the weakest move by a superstar ever
I think for his HOF resume, KD has accomplished a lot. I appreciate what he contributed to the Warriors during his time there. I wish he would have stayed with the Warriors. I would have loved to have seen just how many more of them they would win together. And I also believe that Curry would have won a FMVP with KD still on the team if he had remained and they continued their run as the Hamptons 5. That being said. I appreciate all that KD has done and what he's accomplished so far. I think it's sad the there are narratives out there that try to put him down though. I think he needs to do what Curry has done to quiet the so called critics be it the media or the fans. If he wins a championship on another team, that does add to the weight of his legacy. If not, I think his HOF legacy is already cemented with all he's done already.
7:30 Rockets did not miss 28 straight, if you watched the whole game Harden made a 3 with a foul but the refs waived it, the same shot klay made but was counted in by the refs.
MJ Lebron Kobe Curry Magic *can be switched with curry tbh Tim Duncan Kareem Shaq KD Bird my top 10 as of right now based off of individual skill, team accomplishments, injury luck or misfortune, and production when it matters most.
73-9 team that also is the only team to blow a 3-1 lead in the finals. It's so hilarious to me that people forget that part of it. I remember like it was yesterday. People had SOOOO many jokes like this: "Today is the last day of August. The last day of August is the number 31. Put a hypen between 3 and 1 and you get 3-1. Never forget that the Warriors blew a 3-1 lead." The only thing the killed those dumb repetitive jokes IMMEDIATELY (that very well may have lasted years) was KD joining them. Then everybody forgot about the blown 3-1 lead because Stephen A Smith made the 73-9 record the focal point of the KD slander.
@@smoothsavage2870 yea that’s true. Shame that people think the Warriors were this great dynasty when it came down to pure dumb luck on their end at LeBron’s expense. 2015 Kevin Love getting his shoulder ripped out of his socket in the first round followed by Kyrie’s knee cap cracking in half at the end of game 1 in the Finals. Then Durant joining the Warriors. When you know had it been the other way around and LeBron won under those circumstances people would’ve been asterisking the hell out of those championships
@@williamtoad8040 Fair point. The way this all played out, somebody's legacy was going to take a hit regaredless. If KD never joins the Warriors, we likely dont even care about Steph the same way we do now and Lebron has 6 rings at this point in his career. The Lebron stans would never shut up about him finally having a true GOAT case (despite not really working for it). But KD sacrificed his legacy to get payback on Lebron for an unfair series in 2012 and the media spun it on him instead of seeing it as an "eye for an eye" scenario. Thems the breaks i guess.
Never forget how Toronto was cheering when durant got hurt with an injury. They knew that because he got hurt. They were going to win, but with KD they had no chance.
No sh*t lmao Imagine thinking a team with Kawhi and a bunch of role players could've won against Curry-KD-Klay-Green. Toronto fans were cheering because the field became more even 🤷🏻♂️
@@skyh2394 That's petty. The guy got injured. No excuse to cheer for it. Imagine making this excuse when the Toronto players themselves shut the whole crowd up for cheering.
Them losing the chip without KD vs. Toronto didn’t mean he was the best player on that team If they were missing Steph they wouldn’t have won either. Likely would’ve been worse The stats prove that they actually lost more when missing curry vs. Durant.
KD is the type to elevate his game if surrounded by another superstar capable of leading (aka Steph). Russ, Kyrie, and Book can't lead their own teams prior to KD joining, unlike Steph with the Warriors.
He does have a very complicated legacy in the NBA. On one end, he's one of the greatest players and scorers of all time. On the other end, his move to the Golden State Warriors will always be looked at as one of the weakest moves in NBA history, and his current dysfunction with the Brooklyn Nets isn't too appealing either. I understand going to the Warriors is one thing, but to leave the Thunder is beyond absurd. Some of the Thunder fans have resentment towards him.🏀🏀🏀🏀🏀🏀
The Thunder are a small-market franchise that does not attract marquee free agents, so of course, their fanbase would be sour about their homegrown superstar leaving their team to go to their conference rival, even more so under the circumstances in which he left.
It is complicated because the guy was arguably the greatest player of the 2010's stats wise and was Finals MVP in 2 Championship teams. What will kill his Legacy is his personality, he has zero leadership skills, hes overly sensitive and he'll be forever remembered as a quitter.
KD missed most of 2019 postseason, including Finals. The KD warriors only decided the outcome in 2017 & 2018. While KD is soft, lebron ruined more nba seasons than Durant ever did
@melvinhhcp3615 any super team he was on was never at the level or warriors with KD, they were already a 70+ win team with 3 elite players and KD decided to join cause he wanted a easy route to rings, atleast LeBron worked his ass off to get his. KD had easy shots cause other teams had the splash brothers and Draymond in the paint to worry about
@@therebellioussheep2368 already stacked?? It was Wade and Bosh in 2011, no real bench, and a 1st round exit in 2010 that's it, far from a superteam, stop acting like he joined Boston or something
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KD ironically will be the only NBA legend that will have his championships used by people to argue against his greatness as opposed to in favor of his greatness.
Lebron in 2020,and kobe's first 3 chips...
I meant all of his championships as a whole. Kobe still won two without Shaq and LeBron won championships before the Bubble Ring. KD's the only player where all of his rings negatively impacted how ppl view his career
Damn... thats deep.
KD will not win another chip as a Primary scoring option
@@nathanchimwendo5755he may or may not be 36
I think KD’s legacy isn’t complicated at all: One of the greatest combinations of talent and genetics we’ve ever seen. A hard worker as well. But, he was never mentally tough or capable of being a leader.
This right here is facts, KD had the stats, he had the teammates, he had the game, OP said the warriors was the most logical move is crazy teams such as clippers at that time, Atlanta, etc could have shown how he could lead a team
Ya exactly, some ppl have a hard time getting that
@@isaiaheto799The Hawks were in purgatory at the time. Why would he have gone there? The Clippers weren't the best option either due to CP3 and Blake's health. The Spurs were already full. The Celtics or the Warriors were his best options at the time.
@urbaindelva7869 hawks were 60-22 in the 2014-2015 season tho with guys like Kyle korver Al Harford, Jeff Teague, and Paul milsap
you seem complicated, you didnt mention injuries or unfortunate circumstances at all
KD was such a good all around scorer, he could score from almost anywhere. he remains one of the greatest players of all time.
Was and could? Why the past tense? He still is and still can
@@MDCxThePG I meant at his PRIME prime, but he is still such a good player
@@HendrickAdams weirdly, his numbers are basically all still the same since his MVP years.
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Sadly what hurt KDs legacy was winning chips with another team. Leading OKC to 1 chip would’ve meant more. Then Draymond berated him by telling him that they basically used him to win 2 additional chips. Then GS won 1 AFTER he left. It’s unfortunate because KD should go down as top 10 all time.
I definitely was happy when Steph got ANOTHER one without KD and KD hasn't gotten any. It cemented Steph as a top ten player of all time and KD top 20
That's what happens when you join an already stacked team in order to get your chips. Not to mention it was the team that bounced him from the playoffs that previous post-season.
Right ✅️
Whats the last "stacked" team with their start 5 line up filled by 5 drafted players on last 4 years to win a championship? Not mention HC that never coach a drible in his life.
If this team was drafted today, 99% of people would be asking to trade Curry, Thompson, Green and 4 1st round future picks for Lauri Markkanem...
@@YL2019 Before... They only drafted Curry because Knicks refuse Minnesota propose to switch their pick 6 to Knicks pick 8, after Rubio Pick. At this point, Knicks, that are in love for Curry, were very sure that Wolves would not draft another guard (and they were wrong). Warriors even were an issue as they never would draft a point guard with Ellis on prime (and they were punished for two blunders in a row).
Imagine joining a guy that defeated you.
Can't win without the guy, while the guy wins twice without you with the last win against a team that SWEPT you 😂
Curry is just got luck on his side, kd doesn’t
@@JyDaOne1Curry can lead a team. KD can’t. Simple as.
@@sorcierenoire8651 yeah sure he can. kevin is by most advanced stats and metrics the better player. the narrative of leadership and killer mentality are most insufferable notions in the nba. ever since that team has been together draymond has been the leader - inot that it matters because it doesn't but kevin is objectively better than steph yet he's been facing the most slander.
it takes talent, a cohesive supporting cast, insane luck and sometimes even injuries to win an title.
@@JyDaOne1Bruh respectfully how old are you?? Or atleast approx age.
This lacks context. The guy that defeated him (ONE time in both their careers) requested KD to join him when Lebron defeated him the next series. That same guy got his first championship by defeating an injured team (something KD didnt get the luxury of having his first finals trip).
Even less context in your last point about the Celtics loss. KD had a horrid coach that season and he was the 7th seed. The Nets would've been out of the playoffs had KD not came back from injury to carry that team to the playoffs that year.
Everybody was hoping like hell that the Nets missed to playoffs so they can trash KD, but he still made the playoffs despite Steve Nash coaching them out of the 2nd seed when KD ended up out of the lineup.
2010-2019 was peak kd
I’d say 2013-2019, but he’s the most efficient he’s ever been rn
2013-2021 dont forget that WCF performance against bucks
@@toogeekoffda800you mean the semi finals.
@@toogeekoffda800Eastern Conference Semifinals
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You’re really smoking that pack. Your argument about KD needing the Warriors as much as they need him falls flat when you consider that Warriors won chips before and after KD. KD has not. Furthermore, Klay also got injured in the 2019 NBA finals. It wasn’t just Durant. The way you’re telling the narrative makes it seem like the Warriors were scrubs until KD came to ‘save’ their legacy when it was the other way around.
Warriors 1st chip without KD: Lebron with injured team. KD never got the luxury of an injured team in the finals
Warriors 2nd chip withou KD: Lebron wasnt on the opposing team. Very next season they faced a 38 year old Lebron without KD in the playoffs and LOST.
@@smoothsavage2870 I don’t even know where to begin… First of all, injuries and suspensions are part of the game. I made the point that Klay also got injured in 2019, because the way the creator made it seem, KD going down was THE reason why the Warriors were losing. Obviously having KD is better than not, but it wasn’t just him going down that meant the warriors lost the chip. Like I said, they were dealing with other injuries.
Secondly, what does KD not having the “luxury” of not facing an injured team have to do with anything? KD has been in Super Teams for various seasons throughout the years and hasn’t even reached the final after leaving the Warriors. The fact remains that he hasn’t won a championship outside of the Warriors. If he were so good as this video makes him out to be, he should at least have a finals appearance.
As for 2023, anyone that watched that series will say that AD was the player that made the difference, not LeBron. Stop meat riding. You make it seem like LeBron is the Warriors stopper. They didn’t even make the playoffs that year, so I don’t know what you wanted him to do.
@@Arponare Injuries arent alway a part of the game. Everybody doesnt get to benefit from them like Steph did in 2015. If injuries were a "part of the game" everyone would benefit equally. They dont. KD would've been a champ in 2012 if he got lucky enough to face Lebron with 2 members of his championship core injured.
KD does have a finals appearance without the Warriors btw. He was in the 2012 finals. Lebron beat Steph again on a less powerful team than the Cavs in 2023. He's a Warrior destroyer so long as his own team is healthy and KD aint on the Warriors roster.
KD definitely save their legacy. They'd have been known as the only team to blow a 3-1 lead in the finals. They got crap about that the whole offseason, even after KD signed there. Nobody saw KD as "just a luxury" until after the Warriors starting destroying teams in the playoffs in 2017.
@@Arponareyea injuries are apart of the game so with that being said that’s why they lost the finals against the raptors
Plot twist kd joins the cavs
Where is the "best players in the 2024 playoffs . I NEED IT!!!
Where is it
Where is it
luka is for sure number 1
@@kidscartoons8035Brunson exists
Hey man great video
bud hasnt even watched it all
@@KobeBryant-m9yur first to find out check out the other videos im trying to do this every time cause i wanna see if I don’t comment what people will say but i need people to see first
My question is why did Durant hate Nash when he begged for the Nets to hire him. Durant is always using excuses instead of he is the reason why the team is failing
Things change. Durant and Nash probably were close during the Golden State years and thought he would be a good coach. (Or he thought he would opt into playing KD's style). As we all know now, Nash sucks as a coach.
@@jaffrry5120sucks? What are you on?
@@jaffrry5120 kevin durant has never been a good evaluator of someones talent or ability. thats why he has had 2 failed superteams since golden state but when a team puts pieces around him without his input they are much more successful
@@thedarkfrost2351what are YOU on? Did u not see what happened that season?
@@walterreed5849 yeah which is why he has always failed when it comes to these stuff. What he wanted in Brooklyn just won't cut it anymore for a championship. They could have won with raw talent but it wouldn't have been feasible going forward.
Kevin Durants move to golden state was not logical. It was anti competitive.
Even now, eight whole years later, it IS the weakest move by a franchise player, a superstar ever made.
And it doesn’t matter how many years pass along, it is STILL the weakest move by a superstar ever.
He jumped to a team that went 73 - 9. He jumped to the best team in the league, he jumped to a team that had the 1st ever unanimous MVP in league history. He jumped to a team that was literally one game from repeating as champions.
Kevin knew what he was doing just like the warriors knew what they were doing when they asked him to come. Weak.
Kevin is still a great player no doubt but the move to the warriors was assembling the avengers, nobody was beating that.
Facts
Lebron going with champion wade..bosh,Ray allen etc wasnt that classy either
@@duangc3280 Let’s straighten this up. The next year after Wade won his chip which was 06 - 07 the Miami heat finished with a regular season record 44 - 38 whilst being CLEAN swept in the first round of the playoffs.
07 - 08 The Miami heat finished with a record of 15 - 67 likely due to Wade being injured. They didn’t even make the playoffs.
08 - 09 The Miami Heat finished with 43 - 39 losing in the first round of the playoffs in a seven game series to the ATL hawks.
Then in 09 - 10 the Miami Heat finished with a record 47 - 35 losing ONCE AGAIN in the first round in a gentlemen’s sweep to the Boston Celtics.
As you can see with FACTS what lebron did compared to Kevin Durant is nowhere near the same thing playa.
@@duangc3280Not the same.
@@duangc3280 At least LeBron did not decide to join that loaded Celtics team that beat him.
W vid, KD is one of my favorite players and it's crazy how easy it is for him to get a bucket.
*Maybe do a vid on The Admiral tho*
Kd is that guy you want on your team for the finals his regular season won’t be well acknowledged but his play off performance ends with finials mvp. GSW Durant was the best player.
KD will be in the hall of fame
No shit sherlock
Hot take lmaooo
woah really
Thanks captain obvious
So will Draymond. Who cares
I fault KD for leaving OKC after being up 3-1 against Golden State. However, the cheap ass billionaire owner should’ve paid the luxury tax to keep him, Harden, and Westbrook together. That was our Thunder best chance at winning a title. Hopefully, SGA can get us there now.
as it explained by the video, the way OKC playing their stars is so bad, that's why Durant move to GSW was the best move as a player ever, even if Durant stays in OKC they will wash Durant and Westbrook. seing SGA OKC doing well i think OKC GM learn from the mistake they made during KD, Westbrook, Harden era.
@@quintusdiast3477nah bro you can't talk like that , Every season is a chance to revaluate your mistakes and climb back to the top but sadly for KD, He left OKC when he was pretty close to giving them a title and went to a ready made warriors team!!!
OKC literally had that X Factor to win a championship with him buh he gave up on them and now literally people hate him for joining the warriors😢
@@chronostv20712016 OKC was not close. Billy Donovan is not a championship level coach. Russ, Waiters, Robertson, are not championship level players.
@@chronostv2071 KD took OKC to the finals, conf finals twice. it seems OKC can't build a championship team around KD.
and look OKC post KD not even contender, until they rebuild the whole roster.
Okie here.
Let's be real, the real sauce was move Harden to starter and cut back on WB.
KD has changed the game with his influence of how to smash the league in shooting, dribbling and scoring if you are in the tall of the center i think this influenced many tall players who doesn't want to play like old center player, the next generation of the players will always respect and appreciate KD playing his game like Wembanyama, KD really changed the game for those players
How good was Lamarcus Aldrige actually?
I've waiting for that video for so long
Trash. There's your answer
@nonstop
Or Baron Davis
Kd is a 7ft guard a 1 of 1. Let's be honest he given all of us buckets! 💯 he mastered scoring💯. And he is still ballin after a Achilles injury.
I don't think his legacy is tarnished - I just don't think folks think he really was ever at the level as a leader like LeBron and Curry. Folks want to pretend like after 2016 the Dubs weren't going to be contenders if nothing changed...of course they were. B2B finals, best regular season record in history, 2xMVP as Curry was easily the best player in the NBA those 2 seasons. Durant didn't make them contenders, they were already that and if anything favorites.....he made them unstoppable.
In the end Durant benefited just as much from Curry as every other player on that team and thats fine. Curry was more than happy to enable Durant in order to win chips, thats why he is a leader.
More than any of that though, the Warriors were and will always be Curry's team. That wasn't ever going to change, and it seemed Durant wasn't happy with that.
Curry's not a leader though. Never has been. Draymond has always been the leader of the Warriors. Had Curry been the leader, there are a lot of situations with Draymond that would've been handled by Steph. For instance all the nut kicks Draymond did in 2016 that led to him getting ejected in the finals. You dont allow a player to run rampant like that if you're a leader.
We all know how impactful Durant is during that GSW days. He just fits, everything he does compliments the team. And that team up will be one of the best team up we will ever see.
It’s crazy to think that the Golden State Warriors are the ONLY team that fully unlocked KD’s potential as an elite player yet he did not even try to recreate that with another team, Imagine playing to a system that suits your offensive playstyle yet you do not want to utilize nor try to adapt some of the plays you learned. It puts into perspective how GSW and Steve Kerr’s style of playing is and forever will be one of the greatest style of playing ball alongside the likes of Coach Pop, Coach Phil, and many others.
He should join the spurs with wemby and cp3.
You forget to add one thing that Curry is probably the best enabler of such system to apply. His constant and relentless offball movement with the capacity to draw opps defenders to overreact,, with his willingness to randomly set screens, not holding the ball too long and a very willing passer. Not many stars playing such a brand of basketball that makes other players thrive to their best ability, generating so many easy points. Kerr-Curry-Green is such a deadly combo for how they managed to unlock the best ability of each other, creating a foundation of a team that can't truly be replicated even until now I'd acclaim.
He can’t recreate it with another team because another team doesn’t have Steph.
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It's not complicated, my man. He'll be remembered as the greatest ring chaser of all time.
Im KD fan my favorite player in the league I thought this was a fair assessment of his legacy so far but Kd is definitely going to go down as the best basketball Olympian ever that's for sure
When the greatest shooter of all time hypes you up after a shot!!!!! You're something special man! Love KD❤
its unfortunate that he will be remembered as the 3rd best player in his era
Don't act like you like this team hopping retard.
Not really
Yeah, lebron number 1 (im a warriors fan), curry 2, and kd 3
He better that fraud curry he carried curry to both rings 😂, literally lead curry in all stats including assists for curry fans who lie
Curry also scored majority of his points when warriors were up 10 kd scored when the6 were tied or down unlike the choker curry who can only score when there is no pressure 😂
Best NCAAB player I've ever seen in addition to his incredible NBA career. He's in my top 20 NBA all time.
One of the best to ever touch the ball
That 2021-22 season was just humiliation for KD. Irving being an idiot, Harden getting his fat suit ready again, and Curry getting cheers and MVP chants in his own stadium. And Curry won another chip and a FMVP without KD
GS is lucky that KD decided to the sign & trade to Brooklyn, or else Curry would've had nothing that season.
That season was a permanent stain to KD's legacy.
Facing injured teams and certified playoffs choke artists like the 2022 Celtics
@@melvinhhcp3615Cry me a riiveerr 😂🤣🤣🤣
@@KMM5821the choke artist that held the supreme choker Durant himself to a 38% shooting on that whole first round sweep series 😂🤣🤣
14:31 aint no way yall put oscar robertson over Kobe, Hakeem or Steph🤦🏿♂️
Make it easier.
Take LeFraud out of it too.
2 more rooms to fit.
No Kobe in the picture is outrageous!
Greatness is not calculated by numbers...
Oscar goes over Steph, not the others.
@@melvinhhcp3615 how?!😭
@@melvinhhcp3615Give Steph 70's version of Kareem he would've won him at least 3 championships instead of one like Oscar did 😂😂
@@judyclarkson5887 Kareem & Oscar only played 4-5 years together at the beginning of the 70's, ending in 74. Steph himself didn't win multiple titles until he got KD. So idk what you're referring to.
The commentary on 2019 is just flat out wrong. Klay was also injured in that series, as well as Looney, and missed game 3 while clearly being hobbled in game 4, before tearing his ACL in the 3rd quarter of game 6 while the warriors were in the ascendancy. Theres a strong argument that the warriors win in 2019 without KD if they dont suffer multiple injuries. And this is without getting to replace KD on the roster with even a league average small forward. KD made the warriors unbeatable, but he was not the MVP of that team. It was always Steph (and Draymond) that made the team go.
I feel like when talking about the 2019 finals, what they glossed over was that Klay was also hurt before he went out for good in the game 6. I think if Klay had been healthy the whole series, they would have won even without KD.
KD will always be my favorite player no matter what team he players for I'll support them.
I have a picture of me and KD from his rookie season with the sonics when they came to Detroit. I’m still rooting for him but….its been rough at times
It would have been Majestic if he made the OKC champion and never joined the warriors he's talent will surely blossoms
So Klay didn't get injured in 2019 too you don't have to diminish the people around KD to raise him up.... KD is great for sure but he still has to prove it
The 2019 finals is actually Klay's best performance. But against the Cavs, Klay was straight trash in EVERY series against the Cavs.
KD has literally nothing to prove dude he’s a top 10 all time there’s zero debate to have about it
@@ziegfeld4131 KD has only won with the warriors plus him going there is viewed as one of the weakest moves in the leagues history... He is a top 10 talent no doubt but he definitely still has something to prove... He needs to prove he can win without a super team... I respect KD though what I don't like about this video is it's trying to diminish Steph, Klay, Draymonds contributions they were not role players on that squad... KD is great but let's not take away from the warriors to cement his legacy
KD always dominated with the Warriors but with the Thunder, Nets, and Suns, no chips.
look at the spacing of those teams lmfao
KD dominated with the warriors because he was always open because the other team was always doubling Steph Curry 😂😂😂
@@Bobby_Digital37KD was 4x scoring champ you 🤡
@@relentlesshunter1394 Poor guy he had to join a team with the two best shooters of all time and a DPOY lmfao
@@skyh2394 poor guy had to play with russel westbrick in 8 years. Shit worst than getting a death sentence
Thats why they say If you can't beat 'em Join 'em
Damn spot on, great video
unpopular opinion: his legacy isnt complicated, YALL make it complicated.
You use the same method KD uses, blame someone else 😂
Greatest bus rider of all time
Facts 2 fake rings
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he's the driver dummy
@@bucksfan1945They ain't fake if they actually exist.
he wouldn’t win finals mvp if he was
I find it hard to believe that someone who saw the 2017 Warriors could not agree that KD was their best player.
The description of the 2019 finals is very very inaccurate. That was a Warriors team with no depth (which they traded for KD) and multiple games without Klay Thompson. The Warriors were simply outmatched, despite Stephen Curry putting up 47 in a loss.
If 2022 Andrew Wiggins was on the court, the Warriors may have won.
Any summary of the Warriors that says KD was their best player isn’t accurate
So you're trying to tell us that the depth that they let walk for KD in 2016 wasnt replenished after 3 seasons? Sounds like BS. Andrew Wiggins wasnt stopping Kawhi Leonard that year. And KD was their best player. They to this day havent beaten Lebron (and a healthy team) without KD. They just lost to him in 2023. And Lebron is effing OLD. They STILL lost to him.
KD legacy is cemented. Best scorer in nba history, no one comes close especially at that height. It was his choice to join Warriors and took over playoffs/Finals. Some players are just pure hoopers but not born leaders. Appreciate greatness when hes still here ballin!
He aint even close to be the best scorer in nba history, Jordan is.
Maybe the one who does it more effortlessly? Dont fuckin care tbh
"Appreciate greatness" we will when we see it, 2k glazers need to stick to video games.
The slim reaper😮💨
KD legacy genuinely intrigues me because like someone said I don’t think I’ve ever seen a player in arguably any sport win 2 chips and that he held AGAINST the way it’s been held against KD.
Kds choices led him right out the top 10 all time
He made steph greatest point guard ever thank you 😭
greatest #2 player a team could ask for
Man I know people hate that he went to the Warriors but KDs play style was made for that Warriors team. You could tell right away that KD was in his element
There's no denying that KD is an amazing player and one of the BEST, but he isn't one of the GREATEST in my eyes because he only ever joined superteams. His play was amazing at GSW but you could argue that any top tier player dropped into a 73-9 team suited to them with the only ever unanimous MVP would perform similarly.
His legacy is really complicated but I think he's the most efficient of all time. In my all time starting 5, I will always put him amongst.
Honestly Kevin was the best on the Warriors, I really wished he didn’t leave for Brooklyn the Warriors would’ve probably have won at least like 5 Championships if Kevin stayed on the Warriors❤
Talent of a Top 20 all time. Maybe even Top 10. But those chips will always have the shadow of being a weak move. And I think its right that fact counts against his legacy honestly
Thing is I love watching KD play. He’s so smooth and just a great shooter but I just felt he was doing a lot of whining. He’s definitely top ten no doubt. He’s just the one guy whose chips will be used against him which is crazy!!!!!!
KD should’ve never went to Golden State the way he did. But it was also his best situation and running mate. He should’ve stayed 10 toes down in his decision, never left and become a Bay Area Legend .
To me KD’s main problem was after the Warriors he had the awful Achilles injury, then underwhelmed on Brooklyn and Phoenix. So people more so remember him as selling out to get a ring, then always underwhelming in the playoffs, as opposed to his dominant Thunder years.
KD was never underwhelming in BK. His best year in BK (2021), his team was injured (Giannis injured one of his teamates personally). It was KD vs Giannis, MIddleton and Jrue that year. The next season the team imploded for multiple reasons and KD still played great in spite of that.
The conversation around basketball legacies has gotten so toxic that players can't even succeed without criticism anymore. KD is one of the greatest to touch a ball nobody can dispute that fact. That's all that matters to me as a fan.
GSW was always Curry's team
Kd definitely could've had a shot being considered in the goat conversation, no matter how good he is we all know the community doesnt like superstars going to superteams, and yet kd has done it three times. If he had even just stayed with okc and not win a ring, he would most likely be more respected that way compared to his current legacy
Individually Kevin Durant is definitely one of the greatest players to ever play basketball. Best scorer of all time 🤷🏿♂️
He should’ve never cared what people thought of him. The clear best player on that GS team; stay and win more man. Who cares what the critics say.
KD is unequivocally one of the greatest NBA players of all time. However, such trade to the overpowered Warriors might seem coward for KD, I reckon KD was extraordinarily performing in those years and his accolades & prowess are to behold.
KD is a Top 10
2x Champion
2x FMVP
4x Scoring Champion
14x All Star
11x All NBA
3x Olympic Gold
ROTY
28k Points
... He is still playing
This video honestly hit the nail on the head. KD is without a doubt a phenomenal scorer… OKC let him down with trading Harden. Their system was good, but wasn’t that effective. Like seriously, how do they have a guy like Andre Roberson who consistently airballs 3s at the SG position. His move to GSW was weak, but it brought out some of the best basketball KD has ever played. His assist numbers were up, he found his defensive role as a helpside rim protector that even carries on till today in PHX. I totally agree with the video that the lack of success in Brooklyn wasn’t entirely his fault. Kyrie refusing to get vaccinated and play, Harden refusing to stay in shape. He practically willed the Bucks series to OT in game 7. Sadly, the fact of the matter is that his legacy is still stained. Not sure how his time in PHX will conclude, but I hope he cleans it up. He really is one of the most skilled players in NBA history, it would be a shame to have his accolades not reflect it.
About damn time 💯
Literally every single person Ive ever heard since like 2015 will tell you ‘kd is top 2 rn and top 5 ever’
Amazing player for sure. One of a kind but career management.. that part was pretty rocky for him. Still one of the greats. People are needlessly hating on this guy imo :D
KD showed what the best player can do on the best team.. His TS% was absolutely ridiculously unpredictable. I hate that team with a passion. If LeBron did what KD did, there would be no GOAT debate.
7:36 Not Your A Game, Your A+ Game
KD legacy isn’t really complicated. His accomplishments are what they are. One time MVP and 2 championships won’t land you in the top 10 of all time.
Despite how mad I was and how weak it was when he went to the Warriors, there’s no denying that he is one of the greatest talents that the sport of basketball has ever seen. His legacy was definitely ruined by that move, there’s no denying his talent.
Warrior KD was the greatest KD the world has ever seen
Best player of 2024 nba playoffs
KD is definitely my favourite player. His skill set and the fact of how he is to guard makes him an all time great.
Kd is 100% top 10 in history
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KD going to 4 WCF and a finals with Russ as his co star makes Russ look really good now considering he hasn’t gone far in the playoffs after leaving the warriors
Greatest scorer of any time imo
the thing is KD is a legitimately very good scorer
and it became more easier for him when he is with the dubs, cos of curry, klay around him, its like choosing your poison, but he cant carry a team on his own
Good video
No. 35 Kevin durant! The greatest second banana in NBA history!.
Joining the warriors was NOT the only logical option for KD…. How do you join a rival team that just beat you in the western conf finals? Same team that just won 73 games, same rival that you had down 3-1 a few months ago. It’s for THOSE reasons alone that it was the weakest move by a superstar ever
I think for his HOF resume, KD has accomplished a lot. I appreciate what he contributed to the Warriors during his time there. I wish he would have stayed with the Warriors. I would have loved to have seen just how many more of them they would win together. And I also believe that Curry would have won a FMVP with KD still on the team if he had remained and they continued their run as the Hamptons 5.
That being said. I appreciate all that KD has done and what he's accomplished so far. I think it's sad the there are narratives out there that try to put him down though. I think he needs to do what Curry has done to quiet the so called critics be it the media or the fans. If he wins a championship on another team, that does add to the weight of his legacy.
If not, I think his HOF legacy is already cemented with all he's done already.
He got his ring. That’s what you’re truly measured by and we all know it. Russ will forever be a prince that never became king.
KD is a top 15 player. He has top 10 talent, but this, that, and the other..... I have 12 or so players I just cannot put KD ahead of.
Even with accolades, you can make an argument he is top 30. But without accolades and off of pure skill, he can definitely 1v1 anyone
KD is the Greatest
7:30 Rockets did not miss 28 straight, if you watched the whole game Harden made a 3 with a foul but the refs waived it, the same shot klay made but was counted in by the refs.
MY FAV PLAYER .. I DONT CARE OF GOAT AND ALL.. ONLY LOVE FOR KD..
MJ
Lebron
Kobe
Curry
Magic *can be switched with curry tbh
Tim Duncan
Kareem
Shaq
KD
Bird
my top 10 as of right now based off of individual skill, team accomplishments, injury luck or misfortune, and production when it matters most.
His legacy was ruined when he joined a 73-9 team that had just very narrowly lost a 7 game finals series to get his two participation trophies.
73-9 team that also is the only team to blow a 3-1 lead in the finals. It's so hilarious to me that people forget that part of it. I remember like it was yesterday. People had SOOOO many jokes like this:
"Today is the last day of August. The last day of August is the number 31. Put a hypen between 3 and 1 and you get 3-1. Never forget that the Warriors blew a 3-1 lead."
The only thing the killed those dumb repetitive jokes IMMEDIATELY (that very well may have lasted years) was KD joining them. Then everybody forgot about the blown 3-1 lead because Stephen A Smith made the 73-9 record the focal point of the KD slander.
@@smoothsavage2870 I said “very narrowly lost” 😂
@@williamtoad8040 They didnt very narrowly lose. They just lost. Simple as that. Then they called KD to help them beat Lebron.
@@smoothsavage2870 yea that’s true. Shame that people think the Warriors were this great dynasty when it came down to pure dumb luck on their end at LeBron’s expense. 2015 Kevin Love getting his shoulder ripped out of his socket in the first round followed by Kyrie’s knee cap cracking in half at the end of game 1 in the Finals. Then Durant joining the Warriors. When you know had it been the other way around and LeBron won under those circumstances people would’ve been asterisking the hell out of those championships
@@williamtoad8040 Fair point. The way this all played out, somebody's legacy was going to take a hit regaredless. If KD never joins the Warriors, we likely dont even care about Steph the same way we do now and Lebron has 6 rings at this point in his career.
The Lebron stans would never shut up about him finally having a true GOAT case (despite not really working for it). But KD sacrificed his legacy to get payback on Lebron for an unfair series in 2012 and the media spun it on him instead of seeing it as an "eye for an eye" scenario. Thems the breaks i guess.
Never forget how Toronto was cheering when durant got hurt with an injury.
They knew that because he got hurt. They were going to win, but with KD they had no chance.
Wow, fans of opposing team are happy that one of your team's best player got hurt? That's a nonsense. Fans never would do that
No sh*t lmao
Imagine thinking a team with Kawhi and a bunch of role players could've won against Curry-KD-Klay-Green.
Toronto fans were cheering because the field became more even 🤷🏻♂️
@@skyh2394 That's petty. The guy got injured. No excuse to cheer for it. Imagine making this excuse when the Toronto players themselves shut the whole crowd up for cheering.
i cheered not because im a raptors fan but because i disliked snake durant i wanted to see him hurt and fail
😂😂
KD NIGHTMARE MATCHUP ELITE SKILLS
Them losing the chip without KD vs. Toronto didn’t mean he was the best player on that team
If they were missing Steph they wouldn’t have won either. Likely would’ve been worse
The stats prove that they actually lost more when missing curry vs. Durant.
KD is the type to elevate his game if surrounded by another superstar capable of leading (aka Steph). Russ, Kyrie, and Book can't lead their own teams prior to KD joining, unlike Steph with the Warriors.
He does have a very complicated legacy in the NBA. On one end, he's one of the greatest players and scorers of all time. On the other end, his move to the Golden State Warriors will always be looked at as one of the weakest moves in NBA history, and his current dysfunction with the Brooklyn Nets isn't too appealing either. I understand going to the Warriors is one thing, but to leave the Thunder is beyond absurd. Some of the Thunder fans have resentment towards him.🏀🏀🏀🏀🏀🏀
The Thunder are a small-market franchise that does not attract marquee free agents, so of course, their fanbase would be sour about their homegrown superstar leaving their team to go to their conference rival, even more so under the circumstances in which he left.
It is complicated because the guy was arguably the greatest player of the 2010's stats wise and was Finals MVP in 2 Championship teams. What will kill his Legacy is his personality, he has zero leadership skills, hes overly sensitive and he'll be forever remembered as a quitter.
Imagine how entertaining the finals would be in 2017 - 19 if kd hadn’t joined the warriors. It’s a really intriguing reality to think about
Everybody shits on KD, but seems to forget that lbj played on 8 straight superteams.
KD missed most of 2019 postseason, including Finals. The KD warriors only decided the outcome in 2017 & 2018.
While KD is soft, lebron ruined more nba seasons than Durant ever did
@melvinhhcp3615 any super team he was on was never at the level or warriors with KD, they were already a 70+ win team with 3 elite players and KD decided to join cause he wanted a easy route to rings, atleast LeBron worked his ass off to get his. KD had easy shots cause other teams had the splash brothers and Draymond in the paint to worry about
@@jjreyes7037 Lebron joined a stacked Miami team to get his first chip. Stop giving him a pass.
@@therebellioussheep2368 already stacked?? It was Wade and Bosh in 2011, no real bench, and a 1st round exit in 2010 that's it, far from a superteam, stop acting like he joined Boston or something