Rings of Power First Thoughts (Spoiler free)
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Sorry about the low video quality on this one, y’all. Apparently I was too excited to set up good lighting. Here’s my first thoughts on the Rings of Power, let me know what you thought in the comments! Make sure you like and subscribe, thanks for watching!
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Casually wiping tears away with a rat? That's a new one on me.
😂😂 under rated comment
What is ur pet rats name?
My goodness, why the hate on Jess, people? Disagree by all means, but come on ... Are all of the haters possessed by Morgoth? Now, having just been fair minded and just, may I want the record to show that my opinion of the RoP is that it is abysmal. It may cost a lot, but it's cheap. That's an opinion anyone can choose to disagree with because I staunchly and cheerfully defend your right to be wrong!
Rats forever! The best pet! I love rats, such smart, loving animals.
No way you like the first two episodes and cried there is no story line. Nothing makes sense and Galadriel swam an ocean and lived she always looks pissed off. Every book where she is mentioned she displays joy and beauty, or sorrowful beauty not pissed off and distrust. There is no real dialog, and nothing is Tolkien, but I guess that explains name of part time Hobbit you missed it. The Cartoon the Hobbit that came out in the 70s I think was better than the Prime show which was very disappointing. I have read all Tolkien's books including unfinished tales multiple times and read them to me daughter. I am sorry I happened across your review. Maybe you should read more Tolkien then make another go of it.
I didn't really like the first episode of the first season. But as the show went on I started to enjoy it. Yes, it has problems but it didn't stop me from watching and enjoying it.
I first watch Bakshi's "Lord of the Rings" in 1987. So for me that will always be Tolkien. More so than Peter Jackson. Yes, I enjoyed Peter Jackson's films too.
I cried, because of how bad it was written.
As a Tolkien fan, I'm crying too.
The producers saw South Park and thought "We need Token!", not realising that South Park Token has a history and position within the writers' minds. Oh dear, outthunk by a couple of clowns without an accessible library of ''How to..." books(Tolkien's mind on paper)
@WilfChadwick I think you mean Tolkien, Token would be a pretty fucked up name for a black kid.
Yeah,that was the joke in South park.A token,called Token.
I cried too. I lamented the desecration of the Professor's work right at the beginning and I could not continue with this horror.
There is a misheard Elven line (that sadly I forgot to record for own captioning) that I find iconic for the show:
_"Do you know ... why my shit floats?"_
"The writers were out of their comfort zone when writing the dialog" - correct
No, I think removing their comfort zone would have gotten someone fired, and so they worked fully within it.
Yeah I think they were well within their comfort zone when it came to writing dialog for a self-absorbed feminist who sees herself as a perpetual victim.
That's a very euphemistic way to express that writers were in the braindead zone.
It's absolute garbage.
I didn't cry, I sobbed...I sobbed how Amazon ruined the great world amd characters Tolkien created.
Just fanfic and terrible fanfic at that
They ruined the whole world and characters? Really? You give Amazon that much power? Whoa.
Crying is absolutely an appropriate response to being exposed to RoP
I watched a little group of bullying little elves, and the hideous 1970s hairstyles of male elves, and switched off.
Also sleepiness
I couldn’t watch it, not after they fired the Tolkien scholar for warning them they were straying too far from the lore, ghosting Peter Jackson, and releasing it on Tolkiens death date, and also filling it full of 2023 allegory. I couldn’t do it.
Okay, maybe if you find it THAT offensive, Tolkien's death day is an issue, which I have to admit I do not know - although I can tell you when Arthedain fell! - maaaybe you should not watch it :D
How do you know that it's full of 2023 allegory if you couldn't watch it? 🤔
@@adamdavis1648 There's plenty of reviews from those that suffered through watching it so the rest of us wouldn't have to. Forced diversity, girl bosses, fresh buzz cuts in a world without clippers...poorly written lines like "the world was so young there had not yet been a sunrise..." while showing ruins in the background. The whole thing was a mess and a half.
@@brickgarden If you feel you don't want to watch it, that is your right. Seems a bit sad if you are a Tolkien fan, since you might have found something you liked. You could stop watching anytime. But you will never know.
And, by the way, since you didn't watch it, you don't get to have an opinion on it. Whether it was a mess or not, you don't know.
@@cally77777 As I stated before, I watched countless hours of analysts reviews and frame-by-frame stills (i.e. Shadversity's breakdowns on the messy sword fighting), and heard enough of the dialog / ammeter writing ("Give the me meat and give it to me raw", and "Why does a rock not float and a boat does", or some BS), to know it was not worth my time (but the reviews were entertaining. Check out Nerdorotic/FNT/KnightsWatch). So, yes, I can have my opinion because 1) I did my homework and 2) If you haven't noticed, a lot of franchises have been ruined by the far-left ideology, and Tolkien, unfortunately, did not escape the same fate as Star Wars, Star Trek, Dr. Who, and my much-beloved Disney that is currently being burned to the ground, simply because activism has to be put over just having an entertaining story, and 3) While I'm not in the front lines of the current culture war I'm not going to sit idly by and keep quiet about Tolkien being given the middle finger, from fear of offending people online who are offended by everything under the sun. A lot of corporations push the DEI stuff to make them "look good" and hide the illegal practices they're doing *cough* Disney *cough*. I'm very aware of what's going on, and 4) Galadriel is 1000s of years old, giving her a character arc is completely stupid.
I don't get, but I'm actually very curious what moments you found emotionally compelling... for me, it all fell flat.
It should be noted that I am a very easy crier, lol.
The introduction of the halfling characters is one of the first ones that got me. Say what you will about their lore relevancy, but they reminded me of some of my favorite parts of both Hobbits and my own childhood, and really woke up a sense of wonder in me. Another moment was the reveal of Moria. It was a very striking design, and I've always struggled to picture it, so seeing it was very much "Oh wow! That's what it looks like!
It's a shame it fell flat for you, but emotional resonance is definitely a tricky thing. Everyone has their own opinions. Thanks for watching!
@@Jess_of_the_Shire You are the town crier. 😅
It sounds like you focused on the form. You yourself even hinted at the great anticipation potential after a long hiatus of the franchise, so I can understand that aspect, but there is so much more to discover. I always find it helpful to have many different viewpoints and understanding that they can all provide insight, and people who for example are very enlightened about the societal context of the times see that kind of big picture, see a lot of stuff that can be a burden if treated with hostility but a boon if embraced as further detailing the full picture. (Remember that evil works through deception, through imitation of something true. 😉) Especially people who are not easy to fool are having a very hard time in contrast to the mainstream. But they are the ones working for standards to rise. To use an analogy, they are the kind of people who don't just judge food quality by taste but examine the chemistry in a lab to look for pathogens. To them the 'hidden forces at work' are not hidden at all; quite the opposite.
Evil would never be able to set roots if it didn't present itself very appealing. (I am reminded of a scene from Revolver right now. Excellent movie!)
@@DowlphinAre you implying that Rings Of Power is evil? 🤔
@@Jess_of_the_ShireI think it butchered the personalities
"Hoooooi Boi" gave me Morty vibes
Tolkien would be rolling in his grave if he saw this show... holy mother of Pizarro world of Tokein's vision.
Idk how any true Tolkien fan can genuinely enjoy Rings of Power.
Let people like things loser
I don’t know how anyone who enjoys well crafted stories can enjoy it
It's just the 1st 2 episodes, not enough time to ruin it
Well with a big bowl of snacks and multiple viewings lol can't wait for season 2!
Pretty easily in fact
Easily one of the worst tv shows in existence. Craps on the lore, terrible costumes, elves with short hair, Guyladril being insufferable girl boss, plot just doesnt make sense in many ways.
I have hope in the animated movie coming out next year by warner bros. Its only up from here.
There's no amount of wine that could prepare me to watch this show.
I cried too …. I cried just how bad this show actually is. The acting is terrible, the story / script is awful. The cgi and sets are fantastic which is the only saving grace (style over substance) .
They should of never of fired Tom Shippey, it’s fairly evident on why he departed the show.
I didnt hate it as much as I was expecting to. Galadriel being as OP was a bit cringe, and when/if the meteor guy is revealed to be gandalf will be extra cringe. But I was expecting much worse.
Right there with you. I cried when I realized the writers did the impossible-- they made Galadriel insufferable and completely unlikable in every way. I didn't think that was possible even in poorly written fanfic, yet here we are.
Acting was good, the script was good, you nerds need to get a life and stop nitpicking.
@@bobmcdermit9857 it’s great that you think the acting is good,
Personally I did not. Does that make me a nerd for having an opinion ? No it does not.
also there is a lot of people who dislike what they have done with the show, fans and non fans all dislike the acting and story. It can’t be nitpicking if there is consensus opinion which have all came to the same conclusion.
@@pudgypanda6391 You crying for how bad it was makes you a nerd lol
"Quasi-Shakesperean" is a perfect way to describe the dialogue
So you made so many videos about how much you didn't like the movies, how they differ from the books, and you do this mild critique of this abomination? That's really suspicious.
When did Jess say she didn't like the movies? She has criticised certain aspects of them, but that doesn't mean she hates them. She has said about how she grew up with them.
You want everyone to have the same extreme reaction that you do? What is suspicious?
@@cally77777that she would be critical at all of Jackson’s series and then tread so lightly on RoP
The contrast is stark.
She has repeatedly praised the films what the fuck are you talking about? Noting that some things were better in the book doesn't change that.
You know nothing she loves the Peter Jackson movies. Tell us you don't listen her without telling us
I mean…if she made so many videos, surely you can link one. Just one:)
The lotr fan in me could not stand this show. I like the actor who plays Elrond, but that's about it.
For somebody who made a ton of "why Peter Jackon's LotR movies suck", you were very lenient on RoP and rather reminded me of an Amazon super fan.^^
I watched it feeling slightly annoyed. So many things that were done in a sloppy way, bordering unintentional comedy. Plus, Prime Video itself is a pain to use in so many ways.
And I am not even heavy on the original lore, so that part would probably have multiplied my vexations.
Generally it bothers me when a high budget industry that even pretends to have people specifically for reviewing material and ironing out the kinks fails to do exactly that; when a story had a handful of major cringers that could easily have been resolved to not ruin the overall immersion.
Wtf is an Amazon super fan? Like, someone who just really loves buying stuff off Amazon or collects Amazon merchandise or something? Or someone who really like Amazon prime and the like 6 total original shows it has?
@@offtheshelfET an amazon superfan is a youtuber, media person and such paid by amazon to pretend their Rings of Power is so much better than Peter Jackson's trilogy. You hear nigh no critisizm by her of this series while nitpicking on Jackson's movies with countless videos. At least Jackson was close to the source material while Rings of Power even retconned the original books in many parts. So, yeah, she reminds me of those Amazon Super Fans.
@@Dieter-Doeddel Nitpicking changes is different from calling something a bad adaptation, I don't think she's ever said that the Jackson movies are bad or that Rings of Power is better. And even then, she's nitpicked changes in this show too, she made a whole video criticizing the costumes. Not to be rude but your whole idea that there's some sort of agenda from Amazon to discredit the Jackson movies is just weird to me. I can see why Amazon would pay critics off to give a positive review but why would they pay critics off to diss the Jackson movies when this show relies so heavily on imagery from those films? It feels like you're taking any kind of positive review of this show as a personal attack against the films. And anyway, I'd agree that the show is dogshit but I'm just not following your logic here
@@offtheshelfET and to me it appears you are very naive. Disney Star Wars did the same for instance, their youtube proxies trying to depict the new movies and series' superior to the predecessors. Imagine, big companies do have their own agendas, if you believe it or not.
I personally deeply, deeply disliked the show, for a whole ton of reasons that would take too long to explain here (but I did write an in-depth episode by episode review about it).
There were definitely some things that I liked about it, such as the music and cinematography, and a few of the plotlines were cool. Particularly I enjoyed the Dwarves plotline (Disa and Durin had such a lovely relationship, and I thought it was such a nuanced detail that Elrond just sort of...ghosted Durin for twenty years because to an Elf (or rather Half-Elf), that isn't such a long time), and I also liked the Southlands plotline (I loved the family dynamic of Arondir, Bronwyn, and Theo, which was developed very satisfyingly). Personally Adar was my favorite character, and I'm very sad that Joseph Mawle will be leaving the show. I loved that the actual geography of Middle-Earth was expanded upon, and every city and landscape was utterly beautiful (especially Numenor and Khazad-Dum). I definitely got the feeling that this was Middle-Earth in its prime, especially compared to the sort of fading glory that was in the Third Age.
But that was about all I liked, and the rest I deeply detested. Galadriel was a disrespectful, haughty, horrid person who thought herself better than EVERYONE and bullied her way through at every turn, and I wanted to introduce her head to a brick wall every single time she opened her mouth. The reveal of Halbrand as Sauron was so bad it made me cry. Celebrimbor was deeply disrespected as a character, and that hit me really hard since I love The Silmarillion and the Feanorians in particular. The mithril plotline was just so incredibly ridiculous, as was the fact that the ending felt incredibly rushed. I mean, the show is based on the forging of the Rings of Power, and that event happened in the last forty-five minutes of the last episode.
I really wish that the show's storyline had remained accurate to the canon, as that story on its own is incredibly rich and heartbreaking, and would have been utterly amazing to see on screen.
I think it's great that you're able to appreciate the good parts of it, and really experience the magic this show does have! I also totally get that we might have different opinions, I just wanted to share mine.
I really love your content, you have such a unique channel and way of analyzing Tolkien's works, and you just seem like a truly real person who cares about life and branches out into different hobbies and interpretations, and that truly sets you apart from the content mill that is youtube today!
anyways I know this video is a million years old, I just watched your video about the costuming of Rings of Power and highly enjoyed it (although we do have a bit of a differing opinion on the Elves' hair being cut), and that led me to this one!
I'm assuming since this is your only review of RANGS, you didn't feel comfortable telling the truth and saying its crap, and it got crappier as you kept watching.
I agree with your other vid, people need to give things a chance and allow for change and adaptation. But when things are garbage, we need to admit they are garbage.
I think she probably just didn't want to talk about the show after how much hate this video got. It's sad to me how the internet pulls people into its drama rather than just letting creators live. If the show isn't fun for her to talk about then she doesn't have to talk about it. She liked the trailer, and since the show hadn't come out yet then that's fine. It's fine to like a trailer for something even if the final product is bad.
@@offtheshelfET Well, not to be that guy but the people at Amazon
didn't exactly stay true to the message and ideals of the original text/world. The thing that made the books and the PJ movies so popular to begin with.
They made yet another show that was strongly aimed at 10% of the viewing audience. Namely, other people who live within the bubble that is the Hollywood system.
A practice (going 10 years strong now) that can't just tell a story, but feels the need to have a strong social message that demonizes a very large portion of the audience, for crimes they had no part of, that happened long ago, and are now being used for social political gain.
Not for nothing but, most people are very very tired of these "creators" playing fan fic with things they love, and turning them from hand crafted heirlooms, into mass marketed t r a s h on par with the discount crocs bin at walmart.
@@camotophat when I said creators I was referring to content creators like this girl, not the creators of the show. Obviously the show runners have a responsibility to engage with this series since it’s their job but this girl does not have a responsibility to make a video about the show if she doesn’t want to
@@offtheshelfET I doubt that's the reason. More probably she doesn't like it because it strays too much from anything that has to do with Tolkien lore and she's all about being true to that, but doesn't want to say it publicly because either she is on the same political side as the showrunners, or is afraid of what would she be accused of for disliking it, or both. I don't doubt that she would also get in trouble in the comments if she would say that she liked parts of it, but I also don't doubt that she would post it if she truly believed that it's good, she would back it up with arguments. Objectively, considering her other videos, there's no way she likes it as a whole. She's probably going with "if you don't have anything nice to say about it, say nothing at all". It would be disappointing if the reason she's saying nothing was what I think it is. That would be cowardly of her.
@@galetinm what do politics have to do with any of this? I think you guys seem to have this bizarre disconnect from reality where you believe that saying you liked or didn’t like this show is a political statement and people are being silenced which is just objectively not true. You can find plenty of big pc publications slamming this show who haven’t been accused of racism or anything. Almost everyone hates this show regardless of politics so I doubt the reason is that she fears she’ll be called a bigot. Maybe a very vocal minority of people would but not enough people to justify going silent on the topic. It seems more likely to me that she would be afraid of being attacked by the majority who hate the show for saying anything nice about it even if it’s just small compliments, than an extremely small minority who would call her a bigot.
By the Gods, you made me feel old when you said you were two when the films came out!!!
It saddens me a bit that I cannot say for sure whether I watched them in theater. I think I did, though. And then on DVD.
I also cried several times during the first episode, but for very different reasons.
The screen print armor made me cry. 😑
I can’t stand this show. You’re an angel, and you like whatever you want, but even as a Philadelphian, I don’t have the venom I feel this show deserves. 😡
I really don't like RoP. I don't hate it per say, but I don't like it, I don't enjoy it, a lot about it feels out of place. The writing is also so bad that it's hard to get immersed. As someone who has read all the books it just disappointed me. I feel like I owe Peter Jackson an apology for shitting on his The Hobbit movies, because those were better than whatever this was.
I actually appreciated some of your videos and critiques of various adaptations and Tolkien documentaries until I saw this. You have no problem deconstructing every little detail, finding out if it was in the spirit of Tolkien or not, and you do this on every other piece of media about Tolkien except this. Your objectivity is pretty suspicious. If you did an honest video about this you would destroy it to bits. It's pretty disappointing, I really looked forward to subscribing, but alas.
yeah, i watch some of her video when criticizing the trilogy movie which as a book reader i can agree to some extent, but in this video she didnt even give some critics about how the series stray too far from the source material
I don't think anyone will ever watch this series again after watching it one time. It's bad.
4 work colleagues and I were all watching ROP. We are all fairly big fantasy fans. I made it the furtherst quitting after the 6th episode. I'm not sure many people even made it to the end of season 1.
@@dark_winter8238 I think I made it to 5 or 6 myself before I quit too.
A year on, I've only gone back and watched specific scenes or jumped to particular storylines. I think you're right, I'm not sure I can see myself sitting down and watching it the whole way through again (in the same way I've never re-watched the Hobbit trilogy)
You put words to some things that bothered me about it that I didn’t consciously recognize until now. I want to give the show a little more time before I form an opinion, but I will say that Galadriel and Elrond don’t really feel like Galadriel and Elrond to me at all. They might be interesting in their own right, but I kind of wish the creators had just started with new characters from scratch rather than pulling names from the original LoTR.
In the case of Elrond not feeling like Elrond, I would suggest very strongly that is because of the influence of Peter Jackson's films. Elrond in ROP is closer to the 'kind as summer' character in Tolkien's books, than Hugo Weaving's rather dour (though interesting) portrayal.
Galadriel I will at least concede is a bit out there, but she isn't entirely removed from the book character, who was seen as a perilous sorceress by some, and did feel the temptation of the Ring. Further some of her close kin amongst the First Age elves were of a much more fiery disposition, and she certainly had much cause for angst after the wars against Morgoth. She is a possible version of Galadriel that could have come to be.
How about that elvish hair - Salon Selective!
Not really Elvish hair. More like Elvis hair. Especially Elrond lol
Bad fan fiction.
Actually just bad fiction. The showstoppers have publicly stated their contempt of JRR Tolkien, so they are not fans.
CGI aside, it's insultingly bad.
I tried to like this show but I just couldn't it is awful
Oh no... she really said she likes Galadriel...
Fun sized Galadriel. Was it really that tough to get a tall woman?
The show hadn’t come out yet, if only she could’ve known what Galadriel would be like in the finished thing😔
I cried too, RoP wan an abomination.
It politicized a beautiful classic.
They wrecked the elven race and dressed dwarves in goddy outfits.
They have no clue who Galadrie isl
How could any Tolkien fan feel anything but disgust watching that crap?
Look how they massacred my boy.
What irks me is the meaningless phrases that are supposed to be deep.
"A rock only looks downwards" "The sea is always right"
I kept waiting for these to pay off, but they never did. It was just shitty world building.
"Do you know why a stone sinks but a ship floats? Because the density of stone is greater than the density of water. Ships on the other hand, are typically made of wood, which are buoyant."
@@offtheshelfET I think you completely missed the metaphor there. Yes, we know the real reason a stone sinks etc. That wasn't the point Finrod was making.
@@cally77777 I know this is satirical
@@cally77777 i think you don’t know what a metaphor is.
A metaphor takes a universal truth to make something not so relatable, more relatable.
That was a ridiculous attempt at metaphor because a rock doesn’t ‘look downwards’, it’s just nonsense forced into the appearance of metaphor
When she jumped the ship the show jumped the shark.
The fact that you've made nothhing more than a costume video about this show speaks volumes. Never was the phrase "damned by faint praise" more apt!
Nah it’s cuz all the hatred in these comments. can’t handle that a lot of people actually didn’t think it’s the worst thing ever.
@@dhLord64She has no problem deconstructing the movies and other adaptations to the smallest of details of how they differ from the books. And a lot of people love the movies. This thing differs so much from the books that it's hard to find a connection to the books at all besides the names of characters and places. It would be an easy layup for her if she stood by her own defined principles. I don't believe she is afraid of the justified hate towards the show, maybe she is afraid of the other side, the cancel mob who call everyone who dislikes the show an -ist or a -phobe. Or she just doesn't want to lose a part of her audience because everything is being politicised to a degree that you're put on either side of the political spectrum simply for liking or disliking a show. Maybe she's just not a confrontational person, and this show is very divisive and controversial. Still, I think she dislikes it judging by her other critiques.
@@galetinm People like talking about what they like
Admit it. It sucked.
Yea like... she has to know haha. She just wants so hard for it to be good. It will not ever be something anyone actually goes back to rewatch and enjoy. It's not only bad but intentionally made to piss people off. The creators of the show literally have acknowledged they wanted to piss people off that care about the lore and culture of the story.
She has no problem critiquing the movies. It's disappointing.
I'm sorry you wasted so much time on that garbage show.
Supposed Tolkein fans liking this show when it is LITERALLY Political Propaganda is just mind blowing. I can only assume it's because they happen to align with and agree with the political ideology being pushed.
-Black Elf who has to deal with discrimination/racism from Humans(White ones of course). With lines like "why can't you people just get over it" directed at the elf.
-The classic angry guy(again a white guy of course, all the evil characters are white men) screaming about not wanting immigrants in his city.
-The CONSTANT girl-bossing, and ultra-masculine Female characters.
These are in just the first few episodes and are OBVIOUS references to modern politics. This isn't just a poorly made show, it's an intentional desecration and corruption of Tolkein's work. Period. It is disgusting, and Tolkein would be disgusted with it as well
I couldn't even finish the first episode
"if you're coming here to see a continuation of Tolkiens universe as you remember it, I don't know if you're necessarily going to be happy"
5:45
I'd fall into that category. Not a fan of Games of Thrones of other fantasy shows of the like, it was definietly TOLKIEN I was looking for. Which I felt like we were promised, and from a huge budget like Amazon. Instead I'm crying while re-reading the Simarilion, thinking of what they could of put on the screen. Even by most filmmaking aspects it's a lack-luster piece. Lots of dodgy dialogue, awkward camera framing, and at times some very unfortunate acting. The mixed race cast wasn't an issue for me. The black female dwarf was actually one of my favourite characters, even if she had nothing to do with Tolkein.
Here's my hope. It inspires a new generation to read Toklien, then it at least did something right. It'll make his great stories look even better then they did before.
The elves are easily the mostly poorly done part so far, which is worrying given how much the second age involves elves. I hate the style they've gone for with them and the dialogue is just so poor. The actor playing Elrond, seems like a good actor but he just doesn't look like an elf to me, his round face just screams Hobbit and the hair just looks silly.
Same here. I just can't pinpoint my problem but everything i hate about this is the elves. They just don't feel elf to me. I like the Peter Jackson's version, you just know who is an elf and who is man just by looking not by searching for pointy ear.being said that I would rather watch the talks of elrond then the action of galadriel.
Dooooood.
Seriously?
This show was the worst thing that has ever happened to Tolkien. Hes turning in his grave in valinor and giving everyone the eye of sauron
Maybe you're crying because you're drunk.
It was pathetic , the show of course, the lack of coherency and dialogue was less than stellar.
Using your pet rat as a tissue to wipe your eyes 😂
Well that's an unsubscribe for me. No longer trust anything from this channel.
I decided to boycott the show early on before the show came out.
I feel for you, Jess. At what point did the tears become tears of sadness at the show's lack of quality?
Communists/feminists/racists take over a franchise and make it unrecognizable to fan of said franchise, shocker!
Communists? Really dude?
@@gunkulator1 yes, really.
Ffs, go and read the communist manifesto. How can you not see the guidelines leading from "kill the proletariat" to "employment quotas" quite easily. If you have a friend or teacher that isn't a lefty, ask them to explain.
It was shit, but no surprise someone with pronouns in their bio would try to make excuses for how bad this was in every way.
I tried. It's probably not something I'm going to try harder at. Tolkien has impacted my personal religion so deeply, that my conception of the Divine Feminine has Galadriel being ancient and wise, in the way of immortals- and she embodies NOT needing armor or weapons, being patient, long, slow thoughts that wrap around a present vastly bigger than the here and now of mere mortals.
I spared myself the tears by not watching this dumpster fire.
No you spared yourself the right to have any opinion on it.
@@cally77777 I know trash when I see it, doesn't take a genius to see how bad that show was why put myself through hours of irritation. If i wanted awful fanfic thats what i would consume.
You were drinking wine during watching Rings of Power? You got my full support.
As a Tolkien fan, i would rather choose something stronger to watch this ... this... there is no word in Elvish, Entish, or the tongues of Men for this... this...
It's just churning the money machine, trying to capitalize on nostalgia for Jackson's movies. Which Jackson himself could not do, creatively / critically speaking.
It's another year and now we're told they're dragging in Tom Bombadil. Cripes.
Poor Guyladriel- got Mary Sued. 😅
Galadriel in the books was like over 6 ft tall. They done shrunk her (from what I heard).
MaRy SuE!!!!!
Nit-picking here but she isn't a Mary Sue. She's a Cassandra archetype mixed with the warrior princess trope and, by definition, a Cassandra archetype can't be a Mary Sue.
The worst of the rings of power show is the language. Whst did they made of poor Finrod.
Ain't no way a Tolkien fan likes the corporate slop of RoP.
Looks like it was sponsored by Amazon
Having watched all your videos from the beginning, this is the first one I a NOT upvoting. Also, growing a little disturbed by what appears to be intoxication while presenting parts of some videos.
R.o.P should not have been made and it flopped. Still a new season is on its way. Disgusting. Especially that narcissistic dwarf women (the best thing ever in her own mind) and Guyladriel. 🤮🤮🤮🤮
Well it hasn't flopped, many people watched it, and it was one of the most popular Amazon shows. Also it would not have been renewed if it flopped in the opinion of Amazon.
I think we've heard that 'Guyladriel' joke quite a few times. You have problems with powerful women perhaps? Disa was one of the best characters as well.
i could not watch it all it was rubbish thay buchered Tolkien
I really hope that wizard is not gandalf
I agree with Jess… they should have gone for something new
Morgoth made that show. It's the only explanation.
I couldn't stand it it was lore breaking and way to woke for my taste. they even made the most noble honorable elf character Galadriel into a Karen!!
You are too kind for this world, my lady....😒
I thought the biggest problem with the show was betraying Tolkien's original, straightforward storytelling style in pursuit of JJ Abrams Puzzle Box nonsense.
Tolkien said he wrote the books for the "English" People.
Based off the "Germanic" mythology and histories of the Scandinavian
and Anglo-Saxon people specifically.
So what amazon did was a slap in the face to us culturally. No different than if they made
shaka zulu asian or mlk Irish.
Quite a lot of different actually. Stories about MLK and Shaka Zulu almost always involve race as we understand it so making details like skin tone accurate is relevant. In Tolkien's world, race has nothing to do with skin tone since to him races were things like men, elves, dwarves and hobbits. Since it is apparent what race every character is in ROP, there are no issues here.
As to being influenced by Norse mythology, you might be interested to know that Norse dwarves are actually dark elves, which means, yes, they have dark skin tone. But fear not,it turns out that Sophie Nomvete who plays Disa is in fact a true Aryan, which is to say she is of Iranian descent. Feel better?
@@gunkulator1 dark elves means evil or cold not black!
@@gunkulator1 Really? It's "Apparent what race every character is"?
I don't remember Elves ever being described as Black men with buzz cuts...... in ANY Mythology, in ANY story, or in ANY of Tolkein's works. If you creeps have such a fetish for dark skinned people and want them to be Elves THAT bad, just make some damn Dark Elves and portray them AS ELVES(With sharp angular features, elegant, long silky hair etc.). Whats next, all the "Elves" in Rivendel going to have afros and playing hip-hop while twerking? I mean "ItS JuSt FantAsY" right? It's just an "Adaption" right. So why not?
Also do you have any sources that described Dwarves/Dark Elves as Dark skinned? As someone else pointed out, Dark is usually a reference to evil in this context, not skin color...... People that live underground would theoretically be extremely PALE skinned from lack of sunlight, not dark
And since you don't like his Shaka Zulu example, let me give you a better one. We don't want to see Asian Fantasy movies where the Ancient Kung-Fu master appears, and he's a blue-eyed White guy with spiky Blonde hair. It would be RIDICULOUS, and NO ONE would be okay with it. But when the exact same thing is done to European Cultural works, you all support it and come up with the most elaborate mental gymanstics to justify it.
Also "Aryans" are not "Iranian", not sure what twisted cultural Marxist told you that lie. Aryans were a group of Indo-Europeans who were originally from the Russian Steppe/Ukraine and who migrated to Northern India. Nothing AT ALL to do with Iranians. So no, Sophie Nomvete is not "Aryan" in any way. Btw "Iranic" as a language group has nothing to do with Ethnic Iranians. So please, just get this over with and admit you are an anti-white Lefty
@@cristiani.lepindea8676 Dökkálfar or Svartálfr are the Norse terms for dark elves, or dwarves. Svart means black, not evil and certainly not cold. The English word swarthy has the same Germanic root and it too means dark. Tolkien himself uses the term "swarthy men" to mean dark skinned men, not evil men or cold men. Similarly, Dökk also means dark. In contrast, the other kind of elf in Norse mythology is Ljósálfar or light elves. Neither the dark elves nor the light elves were considered innately evil in Norse mythology.
@@gunkulator1 Tolkien wrote in response to preliminary sketches of a potential animated movie that the characters should not be of ‘Aegean appearance’ referring in particular to the skin tone and features.
So if Tolkien himself was concerned enough to write about his misgivings, given he was writing a mythos for the English, why would anyone presume they know better?
Tolkien didn’t want his titular characters represented by southern Europeans.
But somehow subsaharan is fine?
Tolkien clearly defines the Rohirrim as fair and blonde haired. The Numenoreans fair and darker of hair.
If it wasn’t important to Tolkien, he wouldn’t have bothered describing racial characteristics.
Tolkien describes races of men, call them what you will, as well as the Noldor, Sindar, and sylvan elves, as well as the different ‘races’ of hobbits differently using characteristics of race.
It’s all in there. You can’t discount what Tolkien has written by presuming that races only concerned men, elves, dwarves and hobbits.
To somehow make the leap that he was only concerned with race as it applied to elves and men and so forth just by virtue of their existence. It’s a non sequitur.
How does having a broader group of races preclude a smaller subset of races?
We have the Easterlings and the Haradrim.
Who were overtly different in racial characteristics which Tolkien described.
That was relevant to the story. Very relevant, because the different races of men were how the cultural divides existed.
That’s how cultural mythos work.
So no, Tolkien makes these distinctions of his own volition.
As for the dark elves. Their skin was as ‘pitch’.
But if you imagine them to have features of subsaharan Africans then that’s quite a reach.
And what does it have at all to do with Tolkien’s elves who were only ever described as fair of skin?
Drunk tears
The lil rat tissue was precious xD
Don't worry, no rats were harmed in the making of this review!
U ever feel guilty about crying remember kevin smith probably cried more
Lol I've never felt guilty about crying! I was born a drama queen and so I shall die as one
lmao
This Wandering Day is one of my favorite scenes of any show in a decade
I think it’s really cool when people don’t hate on people for enjoying the things they enjoy.
Well, it isn't Tolkien, but when you get over that it's really pretty bad. Pretentious. Silly. Stupid. The writers saw the movies (?) but apparently never read the books for inspiration. It might not seem so bad if it wasn't trying to pretend it's Tolkien. If it was called something else with characters named Bill and Jack and Andria it might be almost good. Big congrats to the visualizers, art director(s), and composer however. Just try to think of it as a badly conceived amateur kid's story from the 1950s with a big, big, big budget.
I agree they should have just called it something else maybe tales of Middle Earth that would have been more believable
It's so bad.
I *really* wish these massive corporations would stop buying up these beloved franchises and story series, to then just strip them for parts to gain access to an already-established fanbase. If you make a pizza, then throw it in the blender, is the resulting product still a pizza? Disney has done this with Star Wars and Marvel, Amazon is doing this with Lord of the Rings, and Netflix has done this with Resident Evil and Cowboy Bebop. And not to mention Star Trek, whoever owns that title now. If they're not going to tell the "Lord of the Rings" story, why are they calling this series "Lord of the Rings"?
Why are they calling this series "Lord of the Rings"? Are you serious? LOL Sauron eventually emerges and tricks the Elves into creating the Rings of Power, Thus becoming the lord of the rings. WOW....
I definitely agree with some of your points here. I would love to see original stories getting told, or new adaptations of stories that have not been adapted for the screen before.
On the other hand, I still do enjoy seeing old works reconfigured, and don't want to fall into the habit of completely dismissing re-adaptations from the get-go. Thank you for sharing your thoughts!
I’m so f ing angry watching postmodernists destroy great lore and amazing story building. Galadriel is a Mary sue and I’m hoping you can change my mind but am steadfast in this belief. This story is bullshit all male characters are weak minded uselessly and obviously for political reason. I hate this show and the people that made it should be ashamed of themselves. I take this right about Shehulk as complete garbage.
Still waiting for a complete review of the series. It would be nice if it happened before the second season.
Jess: "I'm gonna do more videos about Rings of Power in the coming weeks"
1+ years later ......
@@SnagprophetI think it’s for the best 😂😂
@@bradthebard8824 I mean she's done an objectively positive video about it, i.e. the costumes and design which people don't really have an issue with. Just a shame she just stopped talking about it, I mean if she said "man that sucked and it's fan fiction" then at least people would feel like they were on the same page.
@@Snagprophetvideos take a long time to research, script, record, edit, etc. It’s hard making a video on a topic as controversial as this because you have to commit to the full process even if you don’t enjoy it and you’re not someone who likes confrontation. If I had to guess she probably just thought it wasn’t worth the time and effort
@@offtheshelfET And it might have been because of the possible over-reaction of some people to even mildly positive comments.
I dont think it's as good as it could have been, definitely has some issues which to be fair it's a TV show so that could just be season 1 teething issues, but I enjoyed it overall...die hard fans could probably be a bit less irritable and enjoy it on the same sort of level as something like Shadow of Mordor/War, they aren't half as hated, people speak generally more fondly of them, if you can bring yourself to enjoy a game that features Shelob as a big tiddy goth chick, then your issues with Rings of Power are probably not entirely lore related...
it is only allowed to cry at one piece when the ship burns down 😠
It's awful, pseudo intellectually contrive dialogues and cringe inducing dialogue. Looks great, but the pacing is off, the tone is off and the acting is a bit dodgy. I'll still tune in to keep watching but it's not giving me good vibes at the moment.
My neighbour who I have oddly known since she was nine and a charming woman kindly informed me of her imminent death. Unexpected. and shockiñg. Thank you for the joy you bting. A man should not be an unfortunate witness to incontinent death. You bring me joy in a difficult world and thank you for that. Joy and beauty is far too often zn unlikely companion. I wish you well as old hobbits should our remarkable Jesse's of pleasant, if undiscovered, shires. Travel well youngster. An old hobbit is grateful for such time and beauty as you most happily oresent. With best wishes.in difficult times.
I could not get into it. Loved PJ’s original series but his second series, not sure how to describe it, devolved like Star Wars devolved. Rings of Power began at what I felt was a very slow pace and I could not bond with the main characters so I never completed it. I have to admit, I never read the Silmarrilian (sp). But read The Hobbit and Lord of The Rings over several summers as a teenager. Tolkien was a great writer.
I didn't cry but I think the producers shouldn't have front-loaded things the way they did and rather simply let things develop gradually. The rushing seems to me mostly about money, getting as much story in as possible. It's challenging enough to keep even a vague timeline together for events in the Second Age, so I sympathise with the struggle to make it work. The dialogue is pretty rubbish, no question. I suppose we'll see how Season 2 turns out.
I have not and will not, watch even one episode, the only thing Tolkien about the show, is the names of some of the characters and that's it. The bulk of what they are doing is not canon at all, making it indeed, (fan fiction). I wonder when they plan on doing the black people genocide that must have occurred between the second and third age... 🙄 Woke nonsense will never be entertainment to me.
Not a subscriber or a viewer here.
just letting you know that you popped up in the youtube algorithm for me even though i don't watch LOTR youtube videos and you have little subscribers and viewers, very weird but maybe you can expect to see a boost in viewership soon?
Thanks for letting me know, haha!
Yeah same here, you came out of nowhere, you've been given a spotlight because this is trending.
6 times out of
So close. You cried 5 times in the first episode.
Really good review that showed both ups and downs. Bonus points for the rats.
Excited to show my chinchilla the first 2 episode.
I hope they enjoy it! My boys were somewhat ambivalent, alas
Came here to see what you thought of this cos I've still not watched it. Immediately distracted by RATTO
So....You read the books? And you are fine with Fingon NOT even get a name and getting killed in the wrong way?! And you are also ok with the terrible acting?! Not to mention the Harfoots....oh boy...
I have read the books, and yes, I am fine with those things. It seems we have differing taste. Thanks for watching!
I don't understand what the problem is? We don't actually see Finrods death, we see that he had died and it is heavily implied by a wolf/wolves. The Harfoots were one of three hobbit breeds who eventually migrated to The Shire. The acting seems fine to me and I personally am enjoying the series.
Fingon? I think it is Finrod. Finrod is Galadrial's Brother.
Fingon is the father of Gil-Galad (who appears in the show). Fingon is Fingolfin's son and besties with Maedhors who is Faenor's son.
Finrod and Galadrial are both kids of Finarfin.
That is the guy who stayed behind to become the high king of the Noldor in Valinor.
@@gaebren9021 Guy is so convinced he's right, and he's not even talking about the same character! It certainly is Finrod Felagund, who was killed by a werewolf on Sauron's orders. You can see the marks of claws on him in the series. Fingon's a different chap, and I think would be Finrod's cousin (as Finrod's father Finarfin is his uncle).
I'm still crying .....