Diogenes: Based or Basic? The Intense Story of the Strangest Philosopher in Ancient Greece
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- Опубликовано: 1 июн 2024
- Join us on an immersive journey into the life and philosophy of Diogenes, one of the most intriguing characters from Ancient Greece.
Our narrative is inspired by the comprehensive (and rather intense) ancient text by Diogenes Laërtius, specifically his work "Lives and Opinions of Eminent Philosophers". It is within these historical pages where we uncover the accounts of Diogenes' journey from Sinope to Athens, his radical ideology, and a long series of peculiar interactions that marked his existence.
Experience the philosopher's stark worldview, his unconventional defiance of social norms, and the sharp wit that earned him a unique place in the philosophical sphere. Through this modernized interpretation, we paint a vivid picture of Diogenes' life, filled with drama, humor, and profound depth.
As we delve into his philosophical essence, we leave it up to you to draw your own conclusions. Was Diogenes a madman, marching to the beat of his own deranged drum? Was he a truth-teller, fearlessly speaking truth to power? Or was he a provocateur, constantly pushing the boundaries of social acceptability? Or perhaps, was he a blend of all the above?
Embark on this captivating journey through time with us, as we unravel the nuances of Diogenes' philosophy, exploring how it challenged the conventions of his era and continues to inspire thought in our own.
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0:00 Intro and Setting the Scene
1:04 The Life of a Remarkable Man
44:32 Outtro
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A movie on this guy, done right, would be comedic, insightful, and based beyond belief.
Agree. Agree.
The father of trolls
Maybe Jim Carrey
Larry David.
Stavros Halkias
This man brought humility to the high, wisdom to the low, and laughter to the rest of us.
Wise words
still better than platos
i made similar thing in my chanel
Well said!
I still find it incredible that Alexander and Diogenes met.
The dialogue between them if it's true is superb.
What more of a real life example of an unstoppable force meeting an immovable object is there?
“If anyone wants to buy a boss, there is one available here!”
In the context of that situation where Diogenes was sold as a slave, this is the most badass line that I’ve heard in my life. Diogenes was so epic that even slavery did not break him.
Diogenes was awake! I have never before heard such profound philosophical thoughts. Easy to comprehend. I'm a fan!
I believe him to be Honest, accurate, truthful. , and unbiased.
He was a real Human Being!
A independent thinker!
I like this philosopher a great deal.
This is why I love RUclips... one can rewind, review and reflect as needed. And the love of Philosophy is truly an addiction... Great channel.
Philo Sophia!
Books are nice for that, too.
He was so captivating that even Alexander said "If I am not Alexander, I would be Diogenes"
Alexander probably wished he could be more content with what he had.
In the words of Dr E.Michael.Jones "Unprotected debate."
You can no more change your God given gender than you can change the climate of this or any planet. You are not God's.
God sent his son Yeshua to warn us about the wonderful terrible planet we live on that gets RESET every 12,000 years when the precession of our orbit eclipses crosses through the nucleus of our Sun's electromagnetic gravitational equator for a 1,000 years. Mystery of the 7 crossings of our Star's magnetic equator. 5 crossings loaves done and 2 fish crossings to go in this rotation of the galactic bulge until perigee. Galactic Milankovitch cycles eccentricity.
We have already had the signs of Jonah Tsunami's. Lot's fire/lightning/EMP's are heating up and Noah's tidal wave floods won't be pulled out & around the planet by the new moon until the conjunction of Mercury & Venus in 2033 & every 40 years thereafter for the millennium it takes to eclipse the Sun's nucleus separating the two energies. The Gobekli tepe stones are crying out just like Yeshua said they would.
@@parkercrumpler7659 Was coming to say this XD They forgot the BEST part of the back and forth! (To be clear, Alexander was, and always will be my hero, ever since I was young.... but like Alexander, if you didnt realize what a chad Diogenes was, you werent XD )
Also, Alexander approached him sitting in the sun once allegedly saying "Whatever you ask of me, Ill give it to you" Or some such phrasing, to which he replied "Please move out of the way of the sun" XD
The fact that Alexander was man enough to appreciate and respect him for this IMHO says alot about Alexander(someone who its become incredibly classy for limp wristed dweebs we now call historians to bash on) but to be sure, Diogenes was GOATed
Diogenes was so captivated by being Diogenes that if he were not Diogenes He would rather be Diogenes 😂
I appreciate this. I've been recently on a philosophy binge and am captivated by the life of The Dog. Every other video says the exact same thing and it gets boring searching for new information. This is the best video I've seen so far. Plus the others are like 5-15 minutes long while all saying the same. I'm definitely subscribing.
QA 7
Would you happen to know where I can find more translations or readings from Diogenes? Not youtube related, that is.
@@MrJBarrows5Library
Yes, I did think you dive into Socrates was a trip, albeit a Based one. That's why I'm all aboard the hype train for your potential 16-hour modernized version of Plato's Republic.
Thank you, brother That "Republic" project is on my mind constantly 😄
A cinematic stoic universe would be so valuable today. Imagine the insight, lessons, laughs and general wonder of Ancient Greece done right showing the stories of the top stoics and their relationships to one another.
A cynic universe too fir Dio G.
Diogenes is brilliant and hilarious., i cannot believe i was not familiar with him, thank you.
What you are not familiar with could land you knowing just what you don't know.
Just send me $500 in Bitcoin & I'll tell you everything you don't know.
Non-refundable.
He definitely knew he was friends with the Gods judging by his confidence. He also was pretty wise to the point of cynicism. But he displayed physical and mental discipline to the degree that he was pushed due to his circumstances under his Friend of the gods status.
What intrigued me was how he knew who he should be sold to and why with one glance!
I've been embracing my inner Diogenes.I love his philosophical views.
Nice coverage of Diogenes. I think he is extremely relevant to understand and interact in modern society. Excellent book on this is Critique of Cynical Reason Peter Sloterdijk. Understanding cynicism, especially in art, makes things almost comprehensible
Always been my favorite philosopher. Looking for one honest man. Hilarious. Great production. Thanks for that.
The only litte thing I ask you to is to give us the opportunity to listen to audiobooks from your voice.
Thanks for all your job so far and keep it up!
It is difficult to separate what Diogenes of Sinope actually said and did from what has been attributed to him by ancient writers. But one thing is certain: given the characteristics of his thinking, Diogenes would probably not be offended by hearing all the absurd situations in which, acting or speaking in an apparently absurd manner, he supposedly would ironically restore normalcy. Diogenes makes us laugh or think. But sometimes he makes us think and laugh.
Like Socrates, Diogenes of Sinope did not try to create a system, nor did he record his thoughts in the methodical manner of Plato. Posterity did not interest him. Diogenes lived in the present moment. The act of thinking had momentary importance for him. This explains the development of a method that can be considered perforating: Diogenes perforated what for others seemed to be reality, but was nothing more than illusion or nonsense. He gained notoriety and became a famous character which can be considered quite an achievement.
Diogenes has always been one of my favorite characters from history... definitely based
The tinkering Diogenes and his father did was actually pretty common back in those days; what they would do is just peel the outer layers of the coin's edge and then forge new coins with all the peelings, the coin would seem exactly the same depending on craftmanship and you would create new counterfeited coins.
They still do it today
Called clipping and it can get you kicked out of 109 countries
@@ElimGarakSpoonHead oy vey!
I have an uncle in Cyprus who must be the spiritual ancestor of Diogenes. A combination of rebellion and comedy.
He had the Gorge Carlin thing.
vice versia
I can imagine that Diogenes was a precocious child, to whom his mother would have said "You have an answer for everything!"
Now I know why I relate to him 😄
😅@@TheLegendaryLore Me too!
I am a high functioning Autistic who, as a child, was very precocious and intelligent so that phrase - "You have an answer for everything!" - was common in my home regarding me ... and usually was followed by a beating. Good times! Really miss it. Oh, wait, as an odd person I ... oh, who cares, eh?
@@kaoskronostyche9939 I'm so sorry for how you were treated as a child, brother. No child deserves to be beaten or belittled!
@@TheLegendaryLore Hey, same treatment from people as an adult. As they say "there is no rest for the autistic." Thank you for your reply and kind words. From my pov and experience people are rubbish and life is a shit sandwich and it is always lunch time. Cheers!
i love the lil beef between diogones and plato. remindz me of jim and dwight from the office. 😂
i wish they'd make a film about him. his personality is very captivating
I thought the same thing ... and Mel Gibson as Diogenes.
@@jiejie1119 I'm thinking Rade Serbedzija.
@@pointnemo369 wow, good one.
Ever since I came across socrates, I was hooked.
I LOVE philosophy videos done right and how you go about it is so well done.
For that I subscribed to you.👍
Love to see more in the future!
Try reading the New Testament,Covenant,Commandment but it will only make sense to those ho have ears to hear.
You can no more change your God given gender than you can change the climate of this or any planet. You are not God's.
God sent his son Yeshua to warn us about the wonderful terrible planet we live on that gets RESET every 12,000 years when the precession of our orbit eclipses crosses through the nucleus of our Sun's electromagnetic gravitational equator for a 1,000 years. Mystery of the 7 crossings of our Star's magnetic equator. 5 crossings loaves done and 2 fish crossings to go in this rotation of the galactic bulge until perigee. Galactic Milankovitch cycles eccentricity.
We have already had the signs of Jonah Tsunami's. Lot's fire/lightning/EMP's are heating up and Noah's tidal wave floods won't be pulled out & around the planet by the new moon until the conjunction of Mercury & Venus in 2033 & every 40 years thereafter for the millennium it takes to eclipse the Sun's nucleus separating the two energies. The Gobekli tepe stones are crying out just like Yeshua said they would.
Three minutes and nine seconds. That's how long it took for me to hit the subscribe button. Can't wait to dive into more of this channel. Cheers!
I remember doing history when I was in School as a Greek student in the 80s he was my favourite philosopher. I kept these Greek books and even today in Greek it still is funny reading his statements. Perhaps most is lost in translation and the meanings for the application of the moment. ❤
This is one of the best channels on RUclips -- So thankful finding you!
Keep it up my friend!
Wow, thanks brother!
The deep wisdom in his quick wit is razor sharp.
Diogenes was that rare being who lived like a dog but ate like a wolf... for when it comes to food a dog is dependent on the food given to him by his master... but a wolf shows his independence and mastery in seeking his own food.
Dogs do not actually prefer bones to meat, it is just that no one ever gives them meat.
- Akan proverb, West Africa
A remarkable man and a remarkable intellect…I love that he would have nothing to do with Plato’s silly abstractions. He deserves to be far better known. Video shared on my Twitter feed.
rhx
Parmenides is where it's at!
go back to watching the shadows on the wall tv, radio, papers.
You can no more change your God given gender than you can change the climate of this or any planet. You are not God's.
God sent his son Yeshua to warn us about the wonderful terrible planet we live on that gets RESET every 12,000 years when the precession of our orbit eclipses crosses through the nucleus of our Sun's electromagnetic gravitational equator for a 1,000 years. Mystery of the 7 crossings of our Star's magnetic equator. 5 crossings loaves done and 2 fish crossings to go in this rotation of the galactic bulge until perigee. Galactic Milankovitch cycles eccentricity.
We have already had the signs of Jonah Tsunami's. Lot's fire/lightning/EMP's are heating up and Noah's tidal wave floods won't be pulled out & around the planet by the new moon until the conjunction of Mercury & Venus in 2033 & every 40 years thereafter for the millennium it takes to eclipse the Sun's nucleus separating the two energies. The Gobekli tepe stones are crying out just like Yeshua said they would.
Really enjoyed this, thanks a lot!
Thank you so much, brother! I'm happy you enjoyed it.
My favorite Greek philosopher. Thanks, this is quite good.
Love your voice, and love all the stories about Diogenes. I'd only heard a couple of things about him before watching this video, mainly around his famed meeting with Alexander, but now I have so much more info on what he was really like.
My kind a guy💯💪🏽❤️🔥Socrates gone wild! Love this...thank you🙏🏼
Diogenes is akin to a Franciscan George Carlin possessing the genius to condense his hard-hitting humor into Steven Wright short bursts of wisdom/|\
This is my new favorite channel
I love these videos. Nice job man
I loved learning about this guy.
Thank you for creating and sharing.
I studied philosophy at Yale in the 1960s. You should hve presented this lecture there, then. Quite remarkable. They never even told me Mr. Diogenes existed but a third rate philosoteach had us read Mr. Socrates as presented by his PR man Mr. Plato. I have learned a lot from this presentation. I once knew a great intellectual who drank the Zelensky Kool-Ade but before tha he seemed wise. He said: "Shakespeare lived an ordinary live just like you. Let us pursue our work together as peers." I neer met Diogenes but I did know John Wild. I nevver liked Mr. Socrates but now I like Mr. Diogenes less then before for knowing more about him. Now let us decontruct famousmen and ur fathers who were before us! All the semiotic history of mankind of raw material for our own creative play. RRose Selavy.
Such wisdom in the message, such an A-hole in the messenger. So typical of the great Philosophers.
Man Diogenes is so badass and cool! I just discovered him today.
Funny to think of the ancient philosophers beating the shit out of each other in the streets of Greece
Even the "nerds" were tough as nails back then
@@TheLegendaryLore Love your content man never stop!
This is awesome. L'chaim. I'll teach you some Aramaic. It's the slang of Hebrew. Schlama means peace. Malkuth means heaven. Hubba means love. Hubba to you and yours.
This series really transports me!
You are, simply, the best.
Love this been looking for this
Diminishing one’s wealth doesn’t make one poor it is by multiplying one’s desires. Diogenes
How do I not know this dude? Thank you.
Why does anyone have trouble understanding the wisdom of this man?
He's saturated with wisdom!
Great reading voice and pace.
I like Plato and I like Diogenes, I like Euclid, I like socrate, I like Heraclitus, but truly… a man that doesn’t care would only speak when he knows he is right but more importantly knows he could be wrong
U should do a video about seneca! I always found him and his ideas, as well as his life very captivating
Thanks for your suggestion! I've now added Seneca to the list!
I almost watched all the videos yesterday ☺️
I never comment on videos but I really need to say that you make great content. Keep it up!
I appreciate that :)
@@TheLegendaryLore do you use ai generated images?
@@darillus1Most of the images are AI generated with some editing.
@@TheLegendaryLore that’s rather sad
Fun Fact: The high brow silent society that Mycroft Holmes enjoys, and Sherlock terrorizes, is called The Diogenes Club
It’s sort of easy (relatively) to be an itinerant, possessionless wandering philosopher in balmy Greece. Anywhere further north he wouldn’t have survived his first winter, as far as I know he never discussed it but I’d like to know his opinion. Maybe it’d just be “why not walk south, what better do you have to do?” but it would still be interesting to know
I liked the way it was worded when I heard it. The way I heard it, Alexander says "I'll grant you anything you ask for." "I ask you to stand aside. You're blocking my sun." I also heard he was kind of like a vagrant; I guess you'd call it today. And when people extold the value of a hard days work he'd say "Why work?" His minimalism was an extension of his displeasure with hard work. You didn't quite get to that point. And it could be that I'm the victim of misinformation. I'm not saying that is how it is. It's just a charming aspect of his personality and maybe that's why it's that way. Maybe it's too charming to resist. But that's how I heard the story. Who knows what really happened all those hundreds of years ago?
Afaik what he really said in old greek writings was „illuminate me, or get out of my sun“ meaning, tell me something i dont already know, or stop bothering me.
@@Diogenes_von_Sinope Makes sense.
This channel is awesome
Where are you getting your sources from? What texts or translations from "Lives and Opinions from Eminent Philosophers" are you distilling this from? If you could provide further study on his philosophies that would be greatly appreciated.
Alexander the Great asked Diogenes why he was looking around on the ground after Alexander's father, King Philip II had died. "I'm looking for the bones of your father, but I can't distinguish them from the bones of slaves." Alexander laughed.
Awesomeness 👌🏻 ❤
Diogène of Sinope was the ultimate underdog.
I love Diogenes. He is the Chuang Tzu of Greece.
15:12 Had Plato been a bit more clever he might have said "Behold, a chicken." while pointing toward Diogenes.
Wow! Thank you! Now it is even funnier inside here ;)
Intriguing the places the mind is willing to go...
I reckon Plato had a point about Diogenes being arrogant and I also disagree with a lot of his statements but I think he’s still valid to learn about etc
The constant remarks about so called good looking people tends to make me think he’s a bit jealous of such as well because good looking people are aware of what he’s saying generally so it’s like spamming to my mind anyway
His simpleton - I learnt from children anecdotes border on dumb and dumber skits he seems to assure himself of victory by association where as children are ever present in human societies etc The stories of eating in public being taboo is kind of eccentric people don’t normally do it because they generally have preferred eating places like dining rooms etc
It's unbelievable how much record of his words exist today.
Great job ❤
Thank you, brother!
I have multiple sclerosis and I feel like it’s forced me to go through life as Diogenes
An awesome story
Loved it
"One day, when Plato was on a morning walk by the side of the sea, he saw a man. It was early in the morning, a little dark - the sun had not risen yet. He could not figure out who the man was. This man was Diogenes and in a spoon he was bringing…He would go to the ocean, take the water in the spoon - he had made a small hole in the sand - pour the water into the sand, and then go back.
Plato, standing there, saw him doing it. He looked like a madman. For a moment he thought, “I should not interfere.” But such is the mind - it becomes curious: “Maybe he is not mad; perhaps he is doing something meaningful and I am not aware of it. And what is wrong if I ask him?” So he said, “Please forgive me for interrupting. I don’t want to interrupt you - you may be involved in some great work - but what is going on?”
Diogenes said, “I am trying to empty the ocean.”
Plato said, “My God, with this teaspoon?”
And then the sun was rising and Diogenes started laughing and said, “Plato, what else are you doing?” Then Plato recognized Diogenes. He used to live naked, but that day he was covered with a cloth, just to hide himself, so Plato would not know him at first. Otherwise he might not have interrupted.
Plato was simply stunned, he could not answer. Diogenes said, “That’s what you are trying to do. Your mind is nothing but a teaspoon and with it you are trying to exhaust the oceanic existence. What I am doing is just to remind you…I know it is not possible. You should also remember that what you are doing is impossible."
Diogenes is one of the most loved human beings, as far as I am concerned. As far as the world is concerned, he is one of those who are destined to be condemned for their behavior, for their ideas. And Diogenes particularly, because he is so unique.
It is said of Diogenes, a man of the same caliber as Bodhidharma …. If they had met, it would have been a great meeting. Diogenes was in Greece. He lived naked; he had such a beautiful body that to hide it behind clothes would have been a crime. It is perfectly good to hide an ugly body behind clothes but a beautiful body needs to be available for anybody who wants to see the beauty, the proportion. Diogenes was one of the most beautiful men. Even when Alexander the Great met him, he felt a little embarrassed - although he was a world conqueror, compared to Diogenes he was utterly poor.
I am reminded of Diogenes, a beautiful Greek philosopher, mystic - and a mystic of a rare quality. He was a contemporary of Aristotle, and he was as much against Aristotle as I am, so I have a certain friendship with Diogenes.
Aristotle defined man as an animal who walks on two legs. What did Diogenes do? He caught one animal - and there are many animals who walk on two legs, but they have feathers also, they can fly also - a peacock. He took out all the feathers - because men have no feathers. Take out all the feathers of the peacock… the peacock walks on two legs. And he sent the peacock to Aristotle with the message: “Please receive the gift of a human being."
I am reminded of Diogenes. I love this fellow Diogenes for the simple reason that he does not claim any authority from God. He does not give any orders and commandments and disciplines to others. He used to live naked - not for any religious reasons, not to get to heaven; he was not concerned about heaven and hell at all. He lived naked, because, he said, “That’s how I was born. Nature wants me to be this way. Why should I be otherwise? I am going to be just natural.”
Freedom is the will to be responsible to ourselves.
- Nietzsche
Man is free at the moment he wishes to be. - Voltaire
The more powerful and original a mind,
the more it will incline towards the religion of solitude.
- Aldous Huxley
The truly great man is he who would master no one, and who be mastered by no one.
- Kahlil Gibran
Selfishness is not living as one wishes to live, it is asking others to live as one wishes to live.
- Oscar Wilde
A master to known,
a slave to one...
or
I have only one counsel for you - be master.
Lao Tzu
Your brain shall be your servant instead of your master.
You will rule it instead of allowing it to rule you. - Charles E. Popplestone
The Master leads
by emptying people's minds
and filling their cores,
by weakening their ambition
and toughening their resolve.
He helps people lose everything
they know, everything they desire,
and creates confusion
in those who think that they know.
Practice not-doing,
and everything will fall into place.
- Lao Tzu, Tao Te Ching - Tao
Wealth is the slave of a wise man. The master of a fool. - Seneca
Nothing is really work unless you would rather be doing something else.
- Sir James Barrie (1860-1937)
Choose a job you love, and you will never have to work a day in your life. - Confucius
Man is happiest when he is creating.
In fact, the highest state of which man is capable lies in the creative act. - Leo Buscaglia
Cities have the capability of providing something for everybody, only because,
and only when, they are created by everybody.
- Jane Jacobs
The value of a dollar is social, as it is created by society. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
Excellence always sells. - Earl Nightingale
Success doesn't follow money,
Money chases after success.
Feeling ~ Free‽ ™
OR
Freely loving LIFE for a living ?!
On this point We must be clear,
You are either in control of your destiny
or you are not.
Free or Slave‽
When words lose meaning,
We lose our own will to power
We lose our freedom.
Thanks!
All of the above. I like this guy.
My hero. Trope of "looking for a human" might have been a critique of roleplaying man/woman, because that leaves us with n0 actual humans as people prioritize their secondary attributes instead of the primary one.
I don't get the "pilot" references... What kinda pilots? And what's that about extended middle fingers?
Thanks 🙏🏼 🎉🎉🎉🎉
I approve of this content
All the above for sure
Diogenes would make an awesome standup comedian.
How do we know the differences between the ones that really were said by Diogenes and the ones that others used his name to claim he said?
Zizek would have us belive that everyone today is a cynic. While there may be a general cynicism within the zeitgeist, none are as pure as the cynicism of Diogenes. His lived cynicism is an example to us all that societies are a socail construct of contradictions to our deeper understanding of value, worth, and being. Diogenes is easy to like because he reminds us that were are all just hairless apes parncing around in bejewelled garments as if the clothes make the man out of the ape.
"You thought I'd be a normal philosopher? KONO DIOGENES DA!"
He didn't live in a wooden barrel.....he lived in a giant stone urn of the Temple of Cybele..... I've seen such temple stone urns. They're about the size of a bus shelter.
My hero!
Just curious. What AI did you use to capture these images?
Most are made in Midjourney, a few in Stable Diffusion, with some editing in Gimp.
I both respect and admire, and am horrified by this man, which is probably what he was looking for on some levels. His confrontational manner just got people thinking.
The audio seems ………odd?
I just can't believe that Diogenes coined the term 'diddler' to indicate someone way too concerned with sex 😂😂😂
This AI really likes Mel Gibson.
He was like a proto standup comedian, or internet troll. 😂
Yea but he had balls, unlike internet cucks
It was time for Alexander to conquer the world he met Aristotle and said I m going to conquer the world what I bring for you.
Aristotle said their were land having so much wealth. Alexander said I'll brought all the wealth gold silver diamond etc. from that land. Aristotle said you can't loot that land coz their wealth are not gold silver diamond etc. It's impossible to conquer them. Aristotle said to Alexander send me a sage scholar in Vedas, Upanishads,Gita etc.
After tie-up with Persian king, Alexander entered into that richest land as his mentor Aristotle told about "that could not be conquered".
Alexander remember his mentor's demand from that land 'A Sage'. The sage, he met on bank of satluj river name was Dandayan (in the west he got famous by name Dionysus). Dandayan told, you won't reached to your mother land but I would reach only because your mentor Aristotle called me. Alexander killed by poisonous arrow of the king of that land.
Dandayan of East also known as Dionysus of West.
Merciful intelligent truthful legend
Diogenes was a reaction to the social ego of the Greek City State 'Cosmopolitan Elitism' of the time. That same ego is what lead to their fall to One Eyed Phil...who they believed was just a brutish bumpkin. This perhaps explains Diogenes appreciative response when brought before him. The context had its start with Socrates, who, rightfully, was condemned to death for corrupting the Elite youth with Sophism...which unraveled the unity of Greek identity through Relativity and Subjectivism. 40 years later, these Elite youth were the Elite leaders, the Greek Cities became their own bubbles, Laws were changed, such as a decree that Treason was no longer a chargeable offense, and that new Laws were best determined by expert committee. They were becoming weak, indulgent and vain. This is Diogenes environment, and this is what allowed Phil to pick each Greek City State off, one by one. Does any of this sound familiar? Are not the Elites of today trying to silence the Diogenes' of today? Are they not Cosmopolitan, in a bubble, disdainful of the unsophisticated, uneducated classes below them? Do they not press for Policy and Law to be more informed by 'experts' than through democratic methods? We are creatures of habit...and that does not exempt the whole of us, a mass of one mind.
I just realized that I'm more Diogenes than Alcibiades, but I still hold the latter in higher regard.
tell us about the beautiful art this piece.
What movie ( game-play)? was these wonderful stills from??? E