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Collecting vinyl is like collecting playing cards. Half the fun is finding copies that interest you. What ever quality/copy you are willing to accept is up to you. We all have a budget we have to operate with in. Some people can buy rare/pristine copies off eBay/discogs and some can only afford thrift store records. All things are truly subjective, It’s all about what provides enjoyment.
As a POOR Pensioner, I buy CD's as they are cheaper & play much better than a cheap crappy LP.
One of the more entertaining videos in a while!! Laughed myself silly. And Stones vs. Beatles is an invalid argument as the 2 bands are so different from each other!
I agree. The Beatles are more symphonic while the Stones have a metronome as a drummer.
I'd say the right answer to the Stones VS. Beatles debate is the Kinks, lol
It's a ridiculous trumped up argument that even now people get silly over at end of the day you prefer what you prefer or you could be really controversial and like both!
@@sawyer3715 Yeah love The Kinks, Stones were up there with The Beatles when Brian Jones was around. Afterwards just another decent band.
How can you like Metal, it's crap. How can you like emo, it's crap. How can you like country, it's crap. How can you like Swedish Black Metal, it's crap. How can you like polka, it's crap. How can you like classical, it's crap. How can you like rap, it's crap. How can you like jazz, it's crap. etc etc.
I've heard it all.
In other words, you don't like music in general, it's crap???
That's crap
Loved the vid! Wanted to share one important comment from the perspective of a younger member of the VC!
The VC as a whole is so amazing & inclusive & full of some of the coolest people! Lately - for some reason - there has been an uptick of more seasoned members directing their critiques toward vinyl trends, which is gatekeeping many younger members & turning many of them off to participating, knowing they will be disrespected for liking what they like, or even just asking questions. How did this happen?
It is the hating on "people who play Crosleys", shaming of younger members who only hang records on their Urban Outfitters rack, attacking sites that sell multiplied colored vinyl variants, digital vs analog, overpaying in auctions, motivation to "flip".... I could go on.
All of these perspectives aren't totally off-base. Sure, there could be more info about proper playback, care, & understanding throughout the WHOLE vinyl industry (working on providing that through my channel).
But this is a hobby. Encourage younger members! This is a prospective market, & people's likes will ultimately dictate simply supply & demand. The vinyl world will change again, new generations will discover old things, & the joy is in the journey, between the grooves, & having shared experiences with the cool community!
Keep on grooving your way
sell sell sell
Love to see younger members in it! As long as you don't call them "vinyls"-thats unacceptable. 🤣
We are supposed to be getting younger people in it so it lives on. I inherited my father's collection and we enjoyed 45's together. If he had "today's attitude" I would not be into it.
@@jimb032 Lol - & true!! Appreciate the perspective
@@groovingyourway For what it's worth - I don't care what record player someone has - including Crosleys etc - I'm just glad to hear you have a record player. I personally have no use for colored vinyl, but it doesn't offend me and I don't hate on it. I'm quite happy to see younger people discover the joys of vinyl, regardless of how they get into it. Especially hoping it also sparks interest in all the great music of the last, oh, 100 years. Have a great time.
All good points. Cheers!
I discovered Pink Floyd with The Division Bell so it's always been my favourite album of theirs and probably my favourite album of all time.
I'm 69 years older than collecting vinyl since the 60s. I love colored vinyl. As far as I'm concerned, those that are not fans are like Henry Ford who said you can get a model t in any color as long as it's black. Colored vinyl makes it interesting and doesn't damage sound quality at all. For me often times it has become part of the experience.
The Tony Martin albums are underrated!
Yes, ALL of the early Cooper albums are great. But "Pretties" is my personal favorite just because it's so out-there. 1 1/2 minute songs with 15 changes, that kind of thing. Oh...I almost forgot; a friend of mine said that the song "LIving" sounds like The Beatles got roaring drunk and bashed that one out. Ha! Great episode, Frank and I hope your cold goes away real soon. Get well and stay well!
Huge Cooper fan Pretties for you has it's moments not for me thier best I actually think Easy action might be my favourite Alice Cooper group album,although a tough call to make.
I guess this may be unpopular opinion to some, possibly, but I think Alice Coopers solo work since 1985 outclasses anything he or the band did before.
Motörhead and UFO don't get enough spotlight on being influences. Metallica and Iron Maiden wouldn't exist without them
This topic was a fun one. The potential for all hell breaking loose was there, but you umpired it perfectly. 👍
Thanks 👍
bro that zeppelin take was just somebody trolling. seriously to tell me Zep 1,2 or zoso are not good. come on now...
The tone controls on an amplifier are there to compensate for a less than ideal listening room. Use 'em if you need to.
Sherry is the brains behind Ch33 and Frank is the teleprompter reading robot.
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Lol that was very entertaining. The best was the Monkees lmao
WHAT??! No wayyyy…
This definitely proves "different strokes for different folks". Some of it no doubt has to do with when you came of age and what music was out there for you to get into.
...or like in the bicycle business, "different spokes for different folks...!"
...sorry, Daniel...had to...
KISS is the worst band ever. Colored vinyl is overused and has lost its appeal because it is now used constantly. Back in the '90s it was fun because you did not see it that often compared to now. Neil Young is annoying and his voice is horrible.
Nice mix of good advice and positive perspectives and just general trolling! Great video idea!
Lyrics are not only not important, they are often detractors. When I was growing up most of what I listened to had lyrics but that was because all popular music had them. Now, as an adult I have access to all the music of the world and I spend most of my time steeped in jazz, exotica or classical.
I agree with Travis, the Killer Dwarfs should have achieved mainstream success, they were a great band of the 80's!
Missed the opportunity to post something regarding this, so here I go with 7 observations that may rub various people the wrong way and yet I'm still going to sleep very well tonight.
1. Van Halen vs Van Hagar....
Van Hagar is a softer sound, a pop-ish/rock-ish radio friendly sound. A nice safe cozy unremarkable vanilla sound.
In other words, if the Carpenters became a rock band...they'd be Van Hagar...but i digress.
That is why the very last thing I need is listening to Van Hagar sing about things like love. No thank you, I'd much rather go runnin' with the devil because Van Halen ain't talkin about love...which is why Jamie's cryin' in the first place.
2. On Iron Maiden.... If their lead singer never sang a single lyric I'd be a huge fan, but the minute I hear Julia Childe start singing....I'm leaving the room or changing the station.
3. On Mettalica...To me Dr. Teeth and the Electric Mayhem make much better music in their sleep...if muppets slept.
4. Pat Boone is a misunderstood genius.
5. Air Supply sang nothing but melodramatic show tunes. They should do Kleenex commercials...
6. Comparing the Rolling Stones to the Beatles is a waste of energy. They're very different bands. The former, though very good has wayyyy over-stayed their welcome. Now it's like watching a bunch of mummified raisins trying to sing as if they're still 25 years old. The latter, however, left on top of their game leaving a masterful body of work that's influenced generations of musicians from here to Tatooine and back again. Using critical thinking, one cannot point to a decline with the Beatles but the Stones, it's not a decline, it's an avalanche of ho-hum mediocrity that's only been matched by Coldplay & Maroon 5.
The Jawas would agree...
7. The Cars' 1980 album "Panorama" is their masterpiece start to finish, so sayeth the Moony.
Stylus is not the most important part of the turntable. It is the most important at cheap turntables, but at higher end levels a good transport makes night and day difference, a good arm is important too. These two needs to be high quality to let the cartridge shine. I see no point to put a $3k cartridge on a $1k turntable, it will not be able to show its qualities.
Eh. When you're at that level, I don't think there's a point to give advice "What's most important part of turntable"...😂
Most people don't have 1k turntable to begin with. I'd say 99 % of people listening vinyl don't even have 3k invested in their whole system.
So it is definitely true statement for people outside that 1 % who actually buy + 1k cartridge for their system.
btw. turntable worth < 1k is not "cheap". I'd say if you go under 300 brand new, that is cheap. Used, there isn't really that specific price points to follow...
I like The Pink Floyd much better than Pink Floyd.
That was fun, do it again, mostly so I can chime in on the second round
To the posters who mentioned XTC as one of the greatest bands as well as Weird Al's band, +1 to both sentiments. XTC deserve so much better than what they've gotten and their alter-egos, The Dukes of Stratosphear, are essential listening for psych fans.
I just found out my parents own one of those suitcase type record players. I never knew they had one. I was so surprised, my parents especially my dad was an audiophile kind of guy. Always the best. And put everything on reel to reel tape. But it wasn't Crosley. It's big, heavy and wooden. It has a CD player, and radio as well. I think it's perfectly fine to listen to the radio on it, or the CD. It surprisingly has a fairly decent sound. I guess because it's wooden and huge, and heavy.
My mom got it out because that's the only thing in the house that plays at 78 speed. And my mom wanted to listen to my dad's old 78 Rock and Roll records. Today is the one year anniversary of my dad's passing.
I was shocked seeing those old 78s still in their original heavy paper sleeves. I have to get my mom some good sleeves. Some of those are Chuck Berry 78s.
And my mom was touching the record, and picking up the arm and dropping it on the record.
I was like No, don't do that. Mom you're killing me.
I think Bowie's music is boring
Sorry I missed out on this
Mine is that modern rock isn’t that bad, there are some really good stuff like The Strokes, Wet Leg or King Gizzard
Unmasked is one of my favorite KISS albums too!
Wow! That was so much fun!
The funniest part is I agree with some of the most outrageous comments like Led Zeppelin being overrated 😅
I love the Pet Rock one..🔥this was a lot of fun and will most definitely make a few people's blood pressure surge😂 hope you and yours are well and having a good weekend.
Thanks man, you too.
I really don't understand Kiss. Grown men in makeup making mediocre hard rock. There, I said it. Meh.
Completely agree on U2. Possibly the most overrated band in recent history. And let’s not get started on the arrogance factor of U2 from the last few decades.
no, pops and clicks on your records mean they are dirty please clean the darn thing. and stop playing your records on a buck 98 Crosley vinyl raper with a ceramic stylus
Interesting episode Frank. But the truth is opinions are speculative. Everyone like something that another person may not. All you have to do is look at speakers to see this division. Some like bright...some do not. Some like redheads...some like blondes. 😁Some like trucks some like fast cars. I think it is great personally. People talking vinyl and gear.....having different opinions is to me....a wonderful thing to discuss over a rum and coke. 🙂
All the best to you and yours Frank. Be safe.
Hugs from Newfoundland.
Rod
I agree Rod. I enjoy reading different opinions. It's when it gets to the Your opinion is wrong that starts to frustrate me. I don't understand having an issue with someone else's opinion. Made the comment just last week that Ozzy would be the biggest loss in heavy metal .....for me. I had someone continuously want to argue that when I specifically said for me. Like I said , I don't understand how some feel we are all supposed to think the same thing.
The only good Fleetwood Mac is Peter Green’s Original Fleetwood Mac.
CDs annoy me cause they can be better but so often now they're mastered horribly. I also think the record industry had something potentially great in high res digital that they totally pissed away.
Zakk wylde is overrated....his pinch harmonics have annoyed me for 35 years!
This should be an exercise in learning to accept others opinions. We are all different and if your taste is a 180 from mine, I can't imagine giving you a thumbs down.
FOR ME ...
Agree on the digital debate here on how much we can actually hear.
While I do love Load and Reload , I don't know that I see them as better than Kill'em.All. I can say as I get older I am more apt to listen to the Loads
Being technically better doesn't mean it's more ear pleasing to me. That said...
I prefer Ozzy to other vocalists of Black Sabbath
Love Ringo's drumming and wouldn't want to imagine any other drummer
I love Unmasked and Music From The Elder
My top 10 include The Beatles , Jimi Hendrix and Nirvana. I say this because I'm seeing more and more negativity towards this artists. It may be nothing more than the minority speaking louder, not for sure.
Yes... we may all have different opinions, but at the end of the day are all music fans.
@@Channel33RPM Right , I see all musical taste as valid. Some not as popular as others but still valid. I say this because I have been into music since 1977. Have had a time with posting favorites just to have someone say I'm wrong. It gets old after awhile.
One of the best RUclips videos that I have watched in ages. Very interesting opinion’s some of which I agreed with but saying Jimmy Page is sloppy is complete nonsense. To me he’s the joint greatest of all time along with Mike Oldfield. I also love Beck, Clapton and Brian May.
I think these are around 50/50. 10% need to start on some new medication.
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I love how I was the last comment!!! Lol!
EVH BEST GUITARIST EVER
Kinda agree with Marek on lyrics. I'm biased, though. I grew up with songs in English before I learnt it. I still listen to songs in languages I don't understand.
About The Ramones, punk might have been invented in the US but the Brits did it better.
Tone controls on the amp? That's a resounding yes.
OMG! That was to funny! I have to believe that most of those "bold" statements were very tongue in cheek, but I also get the sense that a few of those guys actually believe themselves. Bahaha 😆😆
Some of the craziest comments I've ever heard! 🤣
Hi Frank, this is great - love hearing others opinions especially when they challenge my own. Just goes to show that music is a very personal thing and you either get it or you don’t. Cheers Matt
Jimmy Page is an awesome guitar player and producer. I think Dio is the best Black Sabbath singer
Ha ha well these are both very true, I thought this was all about unpopular opinions! 😅
Fare Warning album was Cool 😎 , Eddie snuck in Studio After Hours to fix the mix .
Total innovator who knew what he wanted
Frank, I miss the original Channel 33 theme song!
Thanks! I haven't officially retired it... just debating what to do with it.
Colored vinyl is not new it goes back to the late 50's i know because i have some.
Ok, I'll add another one.
The police are the only band that can play reggae and make it sound good.
What I love the most about collecting vinyl, is the expense and inconvenience! 🤣
EVH rules
Loved this video. So entertaining😀
The Dark Side Of The Moon is one of those rare works that knows no genre and 50 years later still doesn't sound dated at all. It's an album that future generations with still be discovering and listening to.
That album was one of those rare gems that had the perfect confluence of the songwriter/performers and the recording producer (Alan Parsons). Together it added up to more than the sum of it's parts. Combine that with the excellent cover design by Hipgnosis and it's truly miraculous.
@@tomfurgas2844 I'll take Alan Parsons "I Robot" over "The Dark Side Of The Moon" any day, sorry.
Why be SORRY ? Personal choice. @@laudanum669
Why
Hugely entertaining! I don't think listeners give some artists enough of a chance. Both Rush & Fleetwood Mac have changed greatly over their long careers. (I won't listen to early Rush.)
I was being sarcastic.the price of vinyl is making some of the fun out of collecting.
I figured.. but you never know...
Controversial indeed.. I think some of those folks may be under the influence though. Yikes! 🥴😅
Haha!! Yes Frank, I am serious. I love the song st anger but I can't stand metallica!!
Love this. Great to hear the more uncommon views. Personally mine would have been...The Beatles where the biggest thing to happen to rock and roll and influenced God knows how many musicians....BUT.....to me their music is average. A few Ok songs here and there, but overall just another average sounding band that had a few good songs. PS...White album is BEYOND overrated!! There I said it lol.
Captain Beefheart and his Magic Band's recording, Trout Mask Replica, is one of the greatest albums ever.
Damn right it is. Cover kicks ass too.
Somebody wrote that but I noticed Frank skipped over that comment. Maybe he thought it was fast and bulbous!
I have an odd take on Trout Mask, I don't hate it but I think there was a better double album to be had in what was put out as two separate albums cut in '68, Strictly Personal and Mirror Man. Also the early 70's Magic Band albums when they go back to the psychedelic blues sound of their debut again, Spotlight Kid and Clear Spot are really good.
The Non Beatles fans don't know wheres they are missing!
Beatles fans can't spell & John Lennon was confirmed as a violent abusive husband towards his 2 wives & 1 girlfriend.
Unpopular opinion, but FACT: Frank actually prefers The Andrews Sisters to
Megadeath. But he owns up to it no matter how unpopular it is. Emphasize the total “G” in the word INTEGRITY and you got the Frank at his frankest on YT and across the unknown universe.
4:48 - I always thought that when listening to UK indie band *Carter USM.* Without the enclosed lyrics, you were stuffed! Just this Cockney voice yelling at you!
St Anger sounds phenomenal…on vinyl.
Actually, I think that comment about The Stones/Beatles/Who/Ramones isn’t that far off, as what the Ramones were doing was reminding people that The Beatles, The Rolling Stones and The Who (before the experimenting of the Psychedelic era came in) were Bands to be influenced by.
The Monkees may be better than the Beatles, but the Turtles are better than all of them!
Great video. Loved it
Mike is FORMERLY from vinyl storage solutions? Whatchutalkinaboutwillis?
I will say this for George Lynch, "Kiss of Death" has a killer riff and "Dream Warriors" is amazing.
I agree
Dont forget Mr Scary instrumental! Loved Back For The Attack
@Pepperonnie the band was so appreciative of what Nightmare 3 did for the album they actually gave producer Rachel Talalay a platinum record when it sold a million copies.
Very underrated
Hi Frank, I really enjoyed this video. Hopefully, you will do more Q&A to anger up the blood. Lol. I agree with the person about the lyrics. It is all about the overall sound to me
Glad you dug the video.
4:40 - "The best band in the business is Weird Al's band" Man that sooooo true! See them live if you don't believe us, you think Damon and myself later :)
Frank, I think that question brought out the best trolls. 😁
Excited my comment got mentioned, about lyrics. I’ve always considered vocals to be an instrument in a song or piece of music but never necessary for a song to have emotional resonance. A piece of music moves me based on the music not what words a person is singing.
Agree. But everyone I explain this to thinks I'm crazy.
When I hear an instrumental on an album, I get the feeling the artist worked harder to keep things interesting, ie. there's more variety in the composition & arrangement.
Words are secondary.
That was an awesome episode!
Hi Frank, nice to see you. A very fun video. Thank you for making my Sunday afternoon. Have a super week.
Thanks Tino. Have a great week as well.
LOL, wasn't offended in the least. WHY, haven't listened to most of the Artist's..... Silly, CHILDISH comment's to WIND PEOPLE UP. I'd much rather try and advise people of SOMETHING THEY MAY LIKE and often give suggestion's & link's. BE POSITIVE not NEGATIVE and TURN PEOPLE ON to what they are MISSING..... As I'm 75 I've heard a lot. Friend's have turned me on to such artist's as AMON DULL 2 {WOLF CITY} - SAHB - EDGAR BROUGHTON ... Just had someone BUY a GREAT SOCIETY LP & thank me....
I agree with Hester.
Awesome video Frank!! You went out with a bang!! He’s one of my best friends but the Monkees are better than the Beatles is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard 🤣🤣👍🤘🤘
Haha... I figured the Monkees comment was a good way to end it!
They couldn't even act.
I'm so sick of people buying the dumb Crosley "turntables". Way to ruin your LPs. That's what a narrow minded person would say if they didn't know that kids were destroying records on turntables way back in the 50's. Kids raced home to put Pat Boone on the listen pile and pin the cover to the wall.
Greta van Fleet didn't bring old school classic rock back to mainstream. Wolfmother did.
It's sad how after two brilliant albums the guy running the band fired everyone else and turned it into a parody of what they did.
I'm a Nightwish Fan the greatest symphonic metal band , and sincerely the Nightwish army protecting there band like no other fans , more protecters than Beatles fans . For people who don't know Nightwish with the song Ghost love score live at wacken 2013 are the most reacted band on youtube. ruclips.net/video/JYjIlHWBAVo/видео.html
Everyone knows the story that in 62 a record company refused to sign the Beatles, because they thought that "guitar bands" and not "in".
That company was DECCA who has signed the Rolling Stones then in 64.
So: there would be no Stones without the BEATLES !
FACTS!
How about - There is no such thing as a good Kiss album. Black Sabbath ended when Ozzy left. The Rolling Stones have been the most over rated band of the past 45 years. The Who ended when Moonie died. Regay sucks just like disco and rap crap. Kneel Young is a hippiecrit. Sammy Hagar never got any better than the first two Montrose albums. A punk is just a hippie with a haircut and a bad attitude. Led Zeppelin's In Through The Out Door was so bad that it came in it's own garbage bag for immediate disposal after listening. Pink Floyd ended when Waters left. The Ramones were the best bubblegum band of the 1970's.John Lydon styled his vocal delivery after that of Sky Saxon. Bono is a Bozo. Blues music is so simple it's boring. That was fun, lets do it again!
I agree, dark side is over rated. PF is one of my favorites and dark side isn't even in my top 5. Animals, WYWH, Meddle, Obscured by Clouds, and Division Bell are all better than dark side or the Wall.
Love these videos....
Jazz is soooooooooo overrated and getting out of control in the VC....guarantee at least half of the channels I watch that are "Jazz Enthusiasts " couldn't recognize most artists on a blind needle drop....let alone most of the records in their collection and all the albums they have on order...have said many times....Jazz is bunch of very, very, very talented musicians noodling.....
Jazz=Zzzzzzz😴😴😴😴
Vocals and singing are just another instrument to me. I do not listen to lyrics or the message within a lyric. It is just another instrument.
Just played my re-issue of Division Bell to test out my new amp setup... Totally sucked... Very bad remaster I'm thinking... Had a lot of distortion on a couple of the tracks... At first I thought it was the system, but then I played my re-issue of Beastie Boys "License To Ill" and it sounded awesome! Very disappointed in the quality of PF-DB re-issue considering what I paid for it 😡
man, i know this is an old video, but some of my favorite songs, i couldn't sing half the lyrics and don't understand most of them. da doo doo do, de doo doo dah, what? Hey i don't understand poetry, but i like music. So i love music/songs, but the lyrics aren't necessarily key. Riders in the Storm, could have been Pizza's in the oven, and it still would be an awesome tune. YMMV
One of your best videos, love all the remarks can't quit laughing 😅.
I got one for ya lol
Hand pressed vinyl prices.
Companies will charge and people will gladly pay $200 plus because somebody took a plastic puck, stuck it in a press, pushed a button, and pulled a lever. I know there's more to it but essentially it's a 4 step process that takes less than a minute to complete...! I get it "BUT WAIT! the rarity, they only pressed 25 in that varient". Lol it took em an hour to do that...
Are you too that old ...but the more UNwise for it...?
Some get old but never grow, right 33?. Lol.
...Shema!!!.
Hello, cool video. Sorry I'm late but here is my unpopular opinion anyway. Eddie VanHalen is a better rhythm guitarist than soloist. Yeah, Eruption blah, blah, blah. But as an overall body of work, I stand by my opinion.
You spoke about innovation and your final list shows that some people don't care about that. EVH was definitely innovative and why he is one of the great guitar players. Same goes for Beatles over rolling Stones. Innovators, music would be so boring without them. What kind of crap would we be listening to if Elvis or the Beatles never hit the scene. All C & W, just drive over me with a tractor now
History will show The Misfits and Danzig will be spoken about in a similar manner as The Bealtes, Stones, Dylan and Zeppelin.
I feel like grunge did for rock in the 90's like what punk did for rock in the 70's. Overinflated egos and more and more pretentious tracks in rock birthed punk and grunge, or at least the necessity for them. Both in their own way, they stripped rock down and changed the sound.
Yeah, this makes sense.
I don't like 98% of today's music. Most of the songs have to sound pretty much the same as the other popular songs. There. I said it. Btw, the Egoes adore being overrated. Each tour more pretentious than the last.
I like Coloured Vinyl records, but I think it's the same as a limited edition CD set, or something of that ilk. It is kind of a gimmick, but if you're a big fan of that artist, you might want something *more* than the standard release. I don't go for the coloured exclusively, but if the option for coloured is there, and it doesn't cost a ton extra, I might pick it up. I gotta admit, i'm a sucker for the splatter and fun coloured stuff. End of the day though, it's about the artist, and the music.
This was the funniest video I've seen in a long time. You should make this a yearly thing (or bi-annual, maybe).
Thanks, this was a lot of fun. If the video does well, I will definitely do more.
Ok the metallica comment pissed me off I'll be honest 😂. How anyone can listen to anthrax and think they're the best of the big 4 is beyond me. Joey Belladonna's voice is like broken glass in my ears.