Your Behringer Wing 2.0 video was really great! We are still on the X32, but looking into eventually transitioning to the Wing! Making much more sense and sounding much better too. Thanks for these walkthroughs!
Every so often, I come back to your video since I think it’s great. Currently,I’m struggling to understand the loudness of a mix. Meaning, my musicians at church love singing/playing softly and oftentimes I’m stuck having to raise the gain on certain instruments such as the guitars. Would it be possible for you to talk about how you set the proper gain and how you get the musicians to give a strong/good signal?
Would be an interesting video if you built a mix on the Wing, and then use the same tracks and try and recreate it the best you can on the x32. Then at the end do a comparison of the two mixes, just to show how much the more powerful wing and its emulations can make a difference. It's also an interesting video for people who want to upgrade to the wing.
Why do people dislike the old LS-9 ? Yeah, the EQs were not the best, but it's a workable console. Mixed a few shows for (to me unknown) bands successfully and got great compliments.
This is a really good mix! Ona console that’s 12+ years old. Punchy, clear, balanced… great job! Wonder if you could do a video on using an x32 Rack as a monitor console with an x32 running FOH. Because we run stereo in ears for our vocalist, we can’t use parallel compression on our drums. My thought is to use a Dante card on the Rack and feed it the inputs from the FOH x32. Thanks for the great content!
If you can mount the rack by the stage box, you’d be able to save money by getting a splitter snake. Otherwise, if you are ready for Dante, then, by all means, go for it.
Question. Why is there left and right for the EG? Isn't it usually mono? Also the Side chain key source is interesting! Also for compression how to know what attack and release usually to set it to?
Both of our EG sources are stereo lines, this gives a much wider space for the guitars wet effects. Compression settings all depend on the source! Faster compression settings “tame” while slower settings give more initial room for “punch”.
@@alexleebataller I see interesting. I'm used to usually miking up the EG's amp using a single SM57 else is a mono out from the guitarist's pedal board direct out.
I’m not an expert on testing delay compensation but I’ve found a quick way to check round trip times and anything in between. You just need your console and a DAW. First, create two identical audio tracks with a simple sine wave and loop the audio section. Next, route them down two channels on your console and flip polarity on the second channel and set both volumes to the same. You should hear them cancel each other out and then no longer hear each of them. Next you can play around with adding different effects inserted onto the second channel and then engage and increase delay on the first channel until you start to phase them out again. Not all effects racks are created equal. You can also calculate the difference of channel to bus and even round trip latency if you add an interface and a few cables. This is an EXTENSIVE subject and there are trained professionals that handle stuff like this all the time who know way more than me. There’s also measurement applications like Smaart that you can look into. Hope this helps!
Quick question, how many subgroups are you using. I noticed on the X32 it said "on" for every channel and I know that those are subgroups. I currently only use 2 subgroups, vocals and band, but what are you using. I'm always open to learning from people and your video was great so I appreciate it.
I’m only using one stereo subgroup (bus 9/10), which is the Drum Dry group. I wanted all of the drum inputs set at unity passing into the bus so I can time align the two stereo drum busses. Everything else is a Post-Fader Bus, therefore I can control the send level.
I haven’t tested the difference of round trip times between bus inserts and fx returns. With this application the audible difference would be negligent considering reverb is so washed out, I’m sure it has plenty of time issues. Lol
Question.about time/latency issue i saw that ur only delaying some of the channels that corelated ( kick in/out)to the ones that u inserted (fxracks).so how bout the other instruments isnt that all corelated.ex kick n bass when u delay ur kick isnt that gonna make the bass off the grid ?
Because it’s not sharing waveforms of the same input (ie. overheads picking up snare), you’re in the clear. It won’t introduce anymore issues than are already inherently there to begin with. We’re talking about less than a millisecond of time difference. Which is enough to tell on the drum channels, but not everything else. Hope that makes sense!
It can be treated as a Sub-group or a Post Fader bus. I have it as a Post Fader Bus on Bus 14 as it shares the block setting of bus 13 which is the Drum Verb Post Fader Bus.
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Your Behringer Wing 2.0 video was really great! We are still on the X32, but looking into eventually transitioning to the Wing! Making much more sense and sounding much better too. Thanks for these walkthroughs!
That's awesome to hear! Glad you're enjoying the content. 🤘
Every so often, I come back to your video since I think it’s great. Currently,I’m struggling to understand the loudness of a mix. Meaning, my musicians at church love singing/playing softly and oftentimes I’m stuck having to raise the gain on certain instruments such as the guitars. Would it be possible for you to talk about how you set the proper gain and how you get the musicians to give a strong/good signal?
X32 mix down was awsome
Thank you!
Thank you so much for this content!!
Let’s go! So proud of
Would be an interesting video if you built a mix on the Wing, and then use the same tracks and try and recreate it the best you can on the x32. Then at the end do a comparison of the two mixes, just to show how much the more powerful wing and its emulations can make a difference. It's also an interesting video for people who want to upgrade to the wing.
I’d be interested to hear those differences side by side!
How do you calculate the delay that an insert adds to a channel?
Let’s gooo boss
Merci très bon tutoriel
Why do people dislike the old LS-9 ? Yeah, the EQs were not the best, but it's a workable console.
Mixed a few shows for (to me unknown) bands successfully and got great compliments.
This is a really good mix! Ona console that’s 12+ years old. Punchy, clear, balanced… great job! Wonder if you could do a video on using an x32 Rack as a monitor console with an x32 running FOH. Because we run stereo in ears for our vocalist, we can’t use parallel compression on our drums. My thought is to use a Dante card on the Rack and feed it the inputs from the FOH x32. Thanks for the great content!
If you can mount the rack by the stage box, you’d be able to save money by getting a splitter snake. Otherwise, if you are ready for Dante, then, by all means, go for it.
@@juanestevez8047 good recommendation. The rack is 5 feet away from our stage box.
Question. Why is there left and right for the EG? Isn't it usually mono? Also the Side chain key source is interesting!
Also for compression how to know what attack and release usually to set it to?
Both of our EG sources are stereo lines, this gives a much wider space for the guitars wet effects.
Compression settings all depend on the source! Faster compression settings “tame” while slower settings give more initial room for “punch”.
@@alexleebataller I see interesting. I'm used to usually miking up the EG's amp using a single SM57 else is a mono out from the guitarist's pedal board direct out.
How do you determine how much delay compensation you need? Is there a guide line?
I’m not an expert on testing delay compensation but I’ve found a quick way to check round trip times and anything in between. You just need your console and a DAW.
First, create two identical audio tracks with a simple sine wave and loop the audio section. Next, route them down two channels on your console and flip polarity on the second channel and set both volumes to the same. You should hear them cancel each other out and then no longer hear each of them. Next you can play around with adding different effects inserted onto the second channel and then engage and increase delay on the first channel until you start to phase them out again. Not all effects racks are created equal. You can also calculate the difference of channel to bus and even round trip latency if you add an interface and a few cables.
This is an EXTENSIVE subject and there are trained professionals that handle stuff like this all the time who know way more than me. There’s also measurement applications like Smaart that you can look into. Hope this helps!
Use smaart on ur final outs.toggle insert (fxrack) on/of take a look at live ir or just simply do find delay mode n look at the time diff (ms)
Quick question, how many subgroups are you using. I noticed on the X32 it said "on" for every channel and I know that those are subgroups. I currently only use 2 subgroups, vocals and band, but what are you using. I'm always open to learning from people and your video was great so I appreciate it.
I’m only using one stereo subgroup (bus 9/10), which is the Drum Dry group. I wanted all of the drum inputs set at unity passing into the bus so I can time align the two stereo drum busses. Everything else is a Post-Fader Bus, therefore I can control the send level.
@@alexleebataller Oh. That makes sense. Thank you
What about the latency difference between the drums sent to the FX / FX return vs inserted FX on the drums subgroups? 🤔
I haven’t tested the difference of round trip times between bus inserts and fx returns.
With this application the audible difference would be negligent considering reverb is so washed out, I’m sure it has plenty of time issues. Lol
Question.about time/latency issue i saw that ur only delaying some of the channels that corelated ( kick in/out)to the ones that u inserted (fxracks).so how bout the other instruments isnt that all corelated.ex kick n bass when u delay ur kick isnt that gonna make the bass off the grid ?
Because it’s not sharing waveforms of the same input (ie. overheads picking up snare), you’re in the clear. It won’t introduce anymore issues than are already inherently there to begin with. We’re talking about less than a millisecond of time difference. Which is enough to tell on the drum channels, but not everything else. Hope that makes sense!
What software are you using to mix on your computer?
X32 Edit
@@alexleebataller Is it only for post edit? Or can you use it live? Can you use your VST's in it?
@@doubleaceprod it doesn’t host or process any audio from your computer, it is simply a companion controller app for an X32 console.
Is the Vox Comp a Sub-group or Mix-bus ?
It can be treated as a Sub-group or a Post Fader bus. I have it as a Post Fader Bus on Bus 14 as it shares the block setting of bus 13 which is the Drum Verb Post Fader Bus.
@@alexleebataller I would remove all my Vocals off the LR and push it into that Vox comp bus correct ?
@@emmanuelojie9814 that is correct, then send Vox Comp to LR
@@alexleebataller perfect thanks
@@alexleebataller great video, it just broadened my knowledge.
You didn’t selected the drum Channels to The DCA Group of drums..
The drums are being sent to a group and the group is in the DCA. 🤘🏻
It should be an M32 not x32. I think the x32 is not even produced anymore.
All of this will work on the M32 🤘🏻