Fujitsu N860-8282 review (Fujitsu tactile magnetic reed)
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- Опубликовано: 26 июл 2024
- Skip to 8:23 for a typing demonstration.
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Something that's never been shown before, a board with TACTILE magnetic reed switches. It's also the oldest mention of a tactile leaf I've found to date. Quite a unique find! :D
The practice sentence was: "Hello my name is Thomas and I'm typing on a Fujitsu N860 right now. These tactile magnetic reed switches are a very interesting discovery and are pretty cool guys. A nice find for sure!" 
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This channel is SEVERELY underrated
Thanks man :) .
I second that - this is a new favorite channel. I never would have thought learning about old keyboards would be so fascinating, but it is!
@4:06 Bro, did you ever imagine to recreate those tactile springs using the power of 3D printing?
yes
Well, I just got 100 subscriber so I will review a very special keyboard for the fan. I ordered 3 of them and it pay average $20 for bid. I can’t tell them what keyboard it is but I don’t think 2 of 3 keyboard that I ordered, Thomas have been review yet. Now this is my favorite keyboard channel next to Vwestlife.
Well, If be able to make a review video. People should support us on Patreon as I spend money on the special keyboard I brought which is still not cheap.
Incredible how one can find a serious guru on just about ANY field on youtube. Happy to see so many folks sharing my fettish for high quality keyboards. These things have replaced the fountain pen we artists relied on for centuries. That and that alone justifies for me the purchase of high quality keyboards. Genius design these switches from the Seventies!
I keep coming back to this video despite it being before you got better audio equipment. The sound is just so nice, and I can only imagine what this would sound like in whatever computer it came with.
Those LEDs! They must have been the single most expensive component on the entire board back in the day! Amazing find.
That space bar sounds absolutely lovely.
amazing find on that tactile bump! Your channel needs more viewers!
This board certainly gives credence to the notion that they don't build 'em like they used to. Quite an interesting bit of computing history, and the magnetic reed switches are really fascinating. I have to agree with the earlier comment of Sam Peterson that your channel is underrated because I very much enjoy each video and learn something new each time I watch. Your work is greatly appreciated ;-)
Cheers mate :) .
Man, why can't SA profile keycaps have recesses that deep. That reminds me of my old IBM Selectric.
a community member just came out with a new profile, supposed to be more similar to older keycap sculpting like this: matt3o, look up susuwatari on massdrop, the profile is called mt3.
god i would love a Selectric based keycaps
aww, those golden vintage LEDs!
I am not gonna lie, I don't really care that much about keyboards, but the content here interests me and your I could listen to your voice for eternity. It is so soothing.
Haha well I guess I must be doing something right then xD .
You are.
I knew you'd have this. I came across your channel when researching a new keyboard purchase, having got fed up of my came-with-the-computer HP keyboard which is frankly horrible but I'd never previously thought to change. Who'd have thought a dodgy shift key could lead down such a goddamn labyrinthine rabbit hole. Anyway, ended up getting a Wooting 2, not that that has anything much to do with this post. All this reading about keyboard switches and mechanical keyboards and whatnot reminded me of a keyboard I bought from a flea market and took apart as a kid. The memory of the glass tubes with reed switches always stuck with me, but it was only just now that I thought to google what the hell type of keyboard it was. And of course this video was near the top of the Google results. I think I'll exit the keyboard community at this point - I don't need another expensive hobby, but thanks for the purchasing advice in your other videos and the nostalgia in this one. :)
That came out of a late 70's dedicated word processor....
Yep. Pretty obvious. I couldn't tell you the model, but it is a fairly normal looking keyboard in those massive things, with their hilariously tiny CRT screen and hilariously large floppy drives, like the Osborne, or some of the other luggables.
Holy shit man, talk about complex design. What was this thing made for the Apollo moon landings lol?? Great review, this one made my jaw drop a little. What a keyboard, to say the least. They don't make them like this anymore.
Cheers mate :) . Yes, it's quite a keyboard!
Another awesome review. Love the "Hot Zone" key! I wonder what it's for..?
Maybe for when you get ants in your pants?
That was my first thought also, but I think it runs a clip of Tom Cruise riding a motorbike in a military air strip, while a tomcat fighter jet takes off...oh, never mind, that's the "Danger Zone" key!
Oh this is a beauty, it makes me wonder if I can make my own switches from scratch..
Silicon oil spray will help with the over-tight fit of the keycaps.
I recently got myself an IBM Selectric II typewriter and the keycaps (in terms of shape and font) really reminded me of the Fujitsu keyboards, in particular this one. Something to do with the shape and font used.
Have you thought of reviewing the keyboard/keys of an IBM Selectric/Selectric 2? The keys of a Selectric 3 in particular look quite strange - I've never seen one in person but they look like Wheelwriter/Model M keys
Best sounding keyboard ever. What combination of modern key switches and keycaps comes the closest to replicating the sound of this?
Is that subtle tink the sound of the reed switch opening and slamming against the glass tube?
a "hot zone" button,wonder what that does,he he.
Oh my 8) .
what exactly do you search on eBay to find listings like this?
These days, something like: "keyboard" and set price to over $200
You can follow searches for certain keyboards so you get emails whenever new listings with that criteria pop up. That said, ebay is not great for vintage keyboards because they're often overpriced. Asking and searching classifieds on Deskthority or Geekhack will probably get you better results and prices.
Oh yeah, eBay is better for sellers than buyers. Sometimes a buy it now price is too low, or people hide good keyboards in lots with bad ones. I've checked a few Goodwills around here like I see on LGR, but SoCal is mostly 80 IQ refugees and GW is full of actual garbage. Nothing good.
That's totally wrong though-- eBay charges ridiculous fees and offers little to no protection to small sellers from fake bids, multiple accounts making low offers, and chargebacks, whereas the buyer gets about 50 layers of protection in every purchase by eBay, Paypal, and even their credit card company. eBay has absolutely terrible policies towards sellers. Also, the reason you don't find good stuff at goodwill is because they have their own eBay stores where they pull good stuff aside and sell it.
No, I mean it. Goodwill in SoCal has garbage. People in other states might not have the best because obviously they sell it on ebay and their own site. That's their job, and I never denied it. But I know LGR and others find some stuff. We have none... you get that? None. There are barely any electronics at all, hardware, nor software, and it smells like a gym. There are only clothes and junk. And ebay/paypal fucked me out $1900 before as a seller. I had to abandon paypal for 5 years so they couldn't collect most of it. That has nothing to do with my original point.
Chyros, any particular reason that you use what appears to be a different camera setup at the end of the videos for the typing demonstrations? It seems to be lower quality audio and visuals than the rest of the video, just curious. Thanks for the awesome content as always!
This is my old camera setup, which consisted of a Nokia phone and a webcam. The phone gave better visuals, but crappy audio, hence why I used the webcam instead.
Is there a modern keyboard that use this kind of switch? Or something similar? Out to get a new keyboard that is durable as all hell.
Since that keyboard is based on contacts and not exotic actuation, did you though about removing the electronics and use a modern driver with jumpers to connect it to the original PCB ?
If you did, what held you back ?
I have no idea how to even approach the situation of converting this thing xD .
So, without digging through tons of comments, can you adapt this keyboard in any way either with Serial, PS2, or USB to be used as a modern kb? Thanks to any answers received. =)
Probably, but I sure as well can't :p .
Nice review. Those switches look extremely light!
Thanks, and they definitely are. Possibly the lightest I've ever tried.
Did you actually get this keyboard working with a modern PC!? P.s. LOVE the channel.
Thanks mate! :) Ha, no, this one might take quite an enormous amount of effort to get working!
It's just unbelievable!
Tactile magnetic reed switches... Fucking awesome.
Thank you very much for this review. I follow all of your videos with much pleasure. You are doing an outstanding job!
P.S. Sorry for the offtopic. I'm currently playing with an old Soviet era keyboard equipped with IZOT magnetic reed switches (just like these: deskthority.net/photos-f62/izot-bulgarian-military-keyboard-t11781.html ). All of the springs have weakened in a different degree, so now every switch has it's own unique activation force, the typing experience is just awkward. On the top of that, all of those switches became squeaky, and I still don't know what lube to use. Any suggestions?
I think someone actually tracked down a stash of replacement switches of that variety on DT recently. I wouldn't mind some of those switches myself, I think they're very interesting, but I don't speak the language xD .
Oh, thank you very much, I've missed that topic completely!
I've wrote a request to that Bulgarian shop. Let's see what will they answer.
But anyway, what kind of lube could you kindly recommend for these switches? For the problem is, the area where the friction happens is pretty big -- a long sliders, a giant housing. I've tried the silicon grease, but it makes the switch too stiff.
By the way, Google.Translate do a great job!
If you manage to get hold of them, could you send a few my way perhaps? As for the lube, yeah silicon grease is a bad choice - it's not actually lubricant anyway, it's more of a sealant. I've used GT85 on my Tesla magnetic reed ones with success. a lot of people swear by Krytox for general switch lubrication, but it's expensive as hell.
Does anyone use speedcube lube to lube key switches/keyboards.
It's funny how you use space with your right pointer finger when you get into a rhythm sometimes. I do that sometimes as well when I'm not paying attention. I try not to though but it just happens occasionally.
I get told this sooooo often xD .
A lot of people claim to do this, but this is something i never do. However only my right thumb hits space, and it never leaves being over the space bar. The left hand pulls double duty if any key is slightly out of reach :)
This is why I LOATHE 1u backspace, like chicony loves to do.
Could someone start building and selling these switches again? I really really want some!
Woah!
I want one
More boards of Key need a "Hot Zone" key!
This channel must have more subscribers and views!
I wish I could have one because I can't afford a mechanical keyboard... I am from Philippines by the way! :)
Thanks! :)
4:20 - 4:25 familiar feeling
i know you have already done some chicony boards but there is one at 26 pounds with blue / green smks which might be a cool review.
I have a 5981 with exactly these switches that I reviewed ages ago, go check it out! :)
thanks, is it good? im thinking on bidding but im concerned on how high i should go in case i decide to sell it one day? and ideas?
Montereys are excellent, probably in my top three of clicky switches. Very smooth and exceptionally delicate. How high you should go is of course completely up to you :P .
the reason i'm not sure is because there is also an apple with potentially orange alps and i want both but i do not need both. its one or the other! (but probably the chicony, but it will be more expensive). thanks :)
Also excellent! Orange Alps in great condition are possibly my favourite tactile switch :) .
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Aren't lots of Cherry MX switches tested for about 50 million strokes?
Gold-plated ones are, normal ones 20 million.
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Interesting. Love the channel by the way.
I don't think that they make non gold-plated ones any longer.
Does this still work?
The switches certainly do, but it's not easy to get this working with a modern computer :p .
is that a proper billion or a 1000 million ?
A fake billion. Blame your colonies :p .
so its a billiard then :)
A milliard :p .
err yeh :P
Hey, he said it right. Now we just need to get him to stop with this kilo and other metric nonsense.
"Justify" button? I wonder what kind of psychopath it was meant for.
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Old logo is better .
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Swell review, Thomas. I just want to point out that something's either "unique" or it's not ("unique" meaning "one-of-a-kind"). Thus things can't be "very unique". It's a common error even a genius like you could commit.