History of AK: -Just Surtr it -Just Chen it -Just Mlynar it -Just Wisadel it Edit: so these are operator that Low End strategy use for that one "Support Slot". Just ___ it, is for the strongest only 😂
that Degenbreacher boss is a perfect example of what makes W stupidly broken. The damage itself is enough to put her at the number 1 spot but being able to summon 3 things that can tank as well as a defender while giving consistent stuns like a supporter is what makes her really really disgusting
Unless if the enemies have AOE attack aka those Bazooka guys or any enemies with Explosion like attack, Her Summons won't save her and in fact it will likely get her killed.
Except damage itself is also number 1 worthy. Can you name me ANY physical damage dealer that has 110k total damage on 80 second cycles?? Closest one is Mlynar with 92k and his avarage DPH is lower than Wisadel, im ignoring the aoe and range here Shes absolutely top 1 worthy for her damage too
She deals a ton of damage, arguably the best damage dealer She can summon incredibly tanky turrets She's practically immortal She can crowd control Truly a balanced character
@@MilkyNepshe is immortal in a sense because her summons give her camo if they are adjacent to her. There is like no drawback to putting her anywhere.
i mean i mostly use 5-stars and i can't even imagine a single 5-star who can solo so many of those bosses, let alone two snipers that can do it now i'm just imagining trying to use Executor or Aosta and Greyy the Lightingbearer against all those bosses
Yes this is a jjk reference Chen deals less dmg but she also has a lot of upsides for example: -Slow -More shots -Makes the enemy lose res so your other Operators deal more dmg to them -She can still get a Module and perhaps she will be on the same lvl as Walter
Wisadel also - Doesn't need to slow because she one shots everything - Doesn't need more shots because she one shots everything - Doesn't need to make the enemy lose res because she one shots everything - Doesn't need a module because she one shots everything
@@mededwa9937thats a rather stiff way of viewing it if you only consider damage, instead you could say she does higher dps off skill(higher than thorns even), she also stuns, cost less dp, more range, and basically summonable everywhere that has an open adjacent tile
Wisadel can also slow, even better than Chen infact More shots literally doesnt matter as her total damage isnt higher Her def reduction is literally only useful for herself at this point Her module already exists and shes not even close to Wisadel. She isnt even bettee than other meta snipers in the first place
Walter is crazy OP. But when comparing with Chalter, the VERY problem of using Walter is: 1. You CAN'T do aerial targeting once the ammo is depleted. You will need backup sniper for this. 2. Singular tanky mob can deplete her ammo fast, leaving no AOE for the upcoming horde; this is a problem not found in the spreadshooter archetype. 3. Singular weak mob with periodic spawn will also deplete her ammo like your wallet on weekend grocery sale, making timing as an importan variable when using her most powerful skill.
Well you've just pointed out differences in archetypes, they make sense but you can also say that Chalter worse than Walter because (insert sharpshooter archetype weakness compared to flinger)
Whoa,... couldn't imagine it was that different since I never had Chalter. How to balance a overcheated operator? By releasing an even more completely broken operator making look the first one "normal"
It's actually easier to "Solo" IS with Chalter than with Walter since sometimes 6 hits won't deal with the entire stage while Chalter actually does. And in some cases enemies do pass behind Walter in between attacks. I'm NOT saying Chalter is better, those are kind of specific situations. However I do think that module-less chalter does more damage than module-lesa Walter.
Stop the cope. Even without the module Wis'adel is much stronger than Ch'alter and I'm a Wis'adel hater. Typhon already powercrept Ch'alter a long time ago. Saying that Ch'alter is good nowadays is just pure copium. Ch'alter had become obsolete since the release of Mlynar, then Typhon happened.
@@lordofbanshees Wis'adel is still good even if her skill is not up, because the summons are tanky and has better stats than most casters individually and they can slow enemies too, she's still better than most snipers even without the skill. Ch'alter is very skill reliant and even her best skill pales in comparison to the likes of Typhon, let alone Wis'adel. I don't even like W, she's a trash character who was overly buffed by Hai Mao because she's his original character and his personal favorite.
@@macsenpai7006 To be fair to chalter, typhon on s3 shits herself if she is distracted/there are other enemies around the boss because it's not aoe, but that's about it.
@@lordofbanshees In most case Typhon's S3 is a more versatile boss killer. Typhon has better range (it's pseudo global range) and it follows the enemy even during its phase 2. Ch'alter is limited to her small range, even Mlynar's range is larger. Ch'alter has an outrageous DP cost as well. Ch'alter became obsolete after Mlynar's release, Typhon killed her. Wis'adel is not needed to kill an already dead unit.
Except even without a module she's still the most broken unit, the module just makes her deal EVEN MORE DMG just to be sure she won't get powercreeped in any foreseeable future.
This not close. Typhon's S3 had already powercrept that of Ch'alter's when it comes to boss killing. Then Wis'adel powercrept Typhon's S3. It's not even close. Typhon has been the strongest sniper before Wis'adel's release.
@yuurina5092 Not really most players still ranked Typhon higher than Ray. Typhon is much easier to use. Typhon's skill 3 is not situational, sure there are stages that can somehow mitigate it, but it works more often than not. Typhon skill 2 is also one of the best AFK skills, Ray has only one good skill and is very reliant on her summon.
She won’t have a rerun, your only way of getting her is sparking or being very lucky and pulling her as an off banner next summer banner (Pepe’s banner). After that next banner she won’t even have the secondary rate up that the past 3 limited get as off banners, so basically the only reliable way of getting her is sparking. The silver lining is that she will be the first summer unit to drop in spark cost to 200 pulls but If I remember correctly it will only happen next summer banner so saving 200 pulls for 2026 summer banner is the cheapest way of getting her now.
Tbf Chen isnt even better than Ray Pozy or Typhon and was off meta for a long while She was mainly so strong because at her release she the only other proper physical damage dealer was literally Silverash and nobody else. Now she has large dp cost, bad range, not so good scaling and pretty eh DPH for todays standards wich explains why she isnt used on IS or CCs in any form. It wasnt that she was too strong, just that game was much weaker at the time
Yeah to me she fell off as soon as typhon came around But even before typhon i never really saw her as a broken unit just a really strong and reliable one
Typhon? sure, she have s2 to deal with waves and s3 to kill bosses, Ray? maybe because her big ass range and high damage but Pozy? she was never really that strong, her only selling point is her typewriter, she doesn't target the boss or the heavy enemy but alway decide to aim for the trash mob for some reason, her damage is barely better than Ch'en even though she is ST, just because she kill some boss a little bit faster doesn't mean she broken. And Chen only real competitor is typhon and walter when it come to clearing enemy waves so stop downplaying her, did she kinda felt off? yes, but not to the point of being unusable in IS and CCs
@@ninhtran6799 Wave clearing is done by every dps these days lmao. And Pozy is absolutely stronger than Chen, she has actual scaling for IS and simply has better cycles and damage than Chen lmao
@@kyarumomochi5146 She ain't killing anything with her shitty aim lol, especially in IS5 when there are alway a group of enemies she will alway aim for the random ass one instead of the actual boss And big ST can also be done by literally every dps these day but in the current newest IS which is IS5, mostly focus on cleaing wave so Chen is still highly used by plenty of players just as much as any other snipers
@@ninhtran6799 And also can you stop throwing wave clearing in everything like game consists of Annihilation or something. You know what else can wave clear? Thats right. Good cycles and high damage output, Ray is used to wave clear on CCB2 for that reason mate, wave clearing doesnt equal having aoe. We are long past those ages unless you had been sleeping under a rock
Wisadel is the best operator* And even without Wisadel, Chen isnt the best sniper anyway, Ray exists, so does Rosa Typhon Narantuya and Pozy wich are all more valuable than her
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To be fair, its not like Chen did BAD. W is just ridiculous...
chapter 14 was a bit easy for an operator this strong, but i mean h stages were troubling me even with wisadel
@@noriao102them mfing mobs got hands doe😭😭😭
@ i literally forgot patriot even appeared because of how much everything was overwhelmingme hehshshshsshhs
Ok Chen lover
She isnt that good either
History of AK:
-Just Surtr it
-Just Chen it
-Just Mlynar it
-Just Wisadel it
Edit: so these are operator that Low End strategy use for that one "Support Slot".
Just ___ it, is for the strongest only 😂
mlynar and texas alter were together
@@Yumiesthetic different uses ad mylnar was generally better to have but yeah sexas is very strong too
big damage? (mylnar)
panic button? (sexas)
you forgot Ling
@@energybeats6051 HELP SEXAS.???????
Degen it. (Huh)
"Six Bullets...More than enough to kill anything that moves!"
-Revolver Ocelot
Ch'en: "Have some more, just in case"
to be fair, its not fair
I don't wanna have to wake up from this daaaaayyyyy dream
that Degenbreacher boss is a perfect example of what makes W stupidly broken. The damage itself is enough to put her at the number 1 spot but being able to summon 3 things that can tank as well as a defender while giving consistent stuns like a supporter is what makes her really really disgusting
Unless if the enemies have AOE attack aka those Bazooka guys or any enemies with Explosion like attack, Her Summons won't save her and in fact it will likely get her killed.
Except damage itself is also number 1 worthy. Can you name me ANY physical damage dealer that has 110k total damage on 80 second cycles?? Closest one is Mlynar with 92k and his avarage DPH is lower than Wisadel, im ignoring the aoe and range here
Shes absolutely top 1 worthy for her damage too
She deals a ton of damage, arguably the best damage dealer
She can summon incredibly tanky turrets
She's practically immortal
She can crowd control
Truly a balanced character
@@MilkyNepshe is immortal in a sense because her summons give her camo if they are adjacent to her. There is like no drawback to putting her anywhere.
@@angelosgames9960Ironically there are a surprising number of "AoE" enemy attacks that aren't actually AoE internally and don't affect Walter at all.
cant wait for holungday alter
Don't think that's how it works.🤣
Nah, summer Shaw alter where she uses her fire hose as a heavyshooter sniper
bro what alter😂
@@Vincent-S I want Melantha Alter, not Shaw >
her module will saver her, true and real, not copium
i mean
i mostly use 5-stars and i can't even imagine a single 5-star who can solo so many of those bosses, let alone two snipers that can do it
now i'm just imagining trying to use Executor or Aosta and Greyy the Lightingbearer against all those bosses
gomen amanai ah moment for frostnova
Yes this is a jjk reference
Chen deals less dmg but she also has a lot of upsides for example:
-Slow
-More shots
-Makes the enemy lose res so your other Operators deal more dmg to them
-She can still get a Module and perhaps she will be on the same lvl as Walter
She already has a module on CN
Wisadel also
- Doesn't need to slow because she one shots everything
- Doesn't need more shots because she one shots everything
- Doesn't need to make the enemy lose res because she one shots everything
- Doesn't need a module because she one shots everything
@@mededwa9937thats a rather stiff way of viewing it if you only consider damage, instead you could say she does higher dps off skill(higher than thorns even), she also stuns, cost less dp, more range, and basically summonable everywhere that has an open adjacent tile
@@mededwa9937but her module is the thing that makes her crazy 😩
Wisadel can also slow, even better than Chen infact
More shots literally doesnt matter as her total damage isnt higher
Her def reduction is literally only useful for herself at this point
Her module already exists and shes not even close to Wisadel. She isnt even bettee than other meta snipers in the first place
i still use chalter in some cases only because i like her sfx more
0:40 Stop! Stop! She's already dead!
The "Only" counter for Wis now is Spiky Chest in IS and Swarming Air Unit when Her S3 is down
But Chen has a better personality.
Idk about that
BALANSKNIGHTS is the only right way to play arknights
Walter is crazy OP. But when comparing with Chalter, the VERY problem of using Walter is:
1. You CAN'T do aerial targeting once the ammo is depleted. You will need backup sniper for this.
2. Singular tanky mob can deplete her ammo fast, leaving no AOE for the upcoming horde; this is a problem not found in the spreadshooter archetype.
3. Singular weak mob with periodic spawn will also deplete her ammo like your wallet on weekend grocery sale, making timing as an importan variable when using her most powerful skill.
Well you've just pointed out differences in archetypes, they make sense but you can also say that Chalter worse than Walter because (insert sharpshooter archetype weakness compared to flinger)
Finally i can use Balans and don't feel like a cheater. W, your time will come as well probably in a couple of years, don't worry babe 😌
Even less brainpower required now
Whoa,... couldn't imagine it was that different since I never had Chalter. How to balance a overcheated operator? By releasing an even more completely broken operator making look the first one "normal"
Chalter is finally balanced!!
They should hire me for the mod designing i can maker her competitive again
W treats bosses like they're regular mobs.
I always combine Ch'en's talent with S3 Wis'adel
Don't compare them but combine them 😌 , just imagins wis'adel with more than 6 bullet 🥶
The Blue Balans versus the Red Balans
It's actually easier to "Solo" IS with Chalter than with Walter since sometimes 6 hits won't deal with the entire stage while Chalter actually does.
And in some cases enemies do pass behind Walter in between attacks.
I'm NOT saying Chalter is better, those are kind of specific situations.
However I do think that module-less chalter does more damage than module-lesa Walter.
Stop the cope. Even without the module Wis'adel is much stronger than Ch'alter and I'm a Wis'adel hater. Typhon already powercrept Ch'alter a long time ago. Saying that Ch'alter is good nowadays is just pure copium. Ch'alter had become obsolete since the release of Mlynar, then Typhon happened.
Walter can literally solo is4 d15.
@@lordofbanshees Wis'adel is still good even if her skill is not up, because the summons are tanky and has better stats than most casters individually and they can slow enemies too, she's still better than most snipers even without the skill. Ch'alter is very skill reliant and even her best skill pales in comparison to the likes of Typhon, let alone Wis'adel. I don't even like W, she's a trash character who was overly buffed by Hai Mao because she's his original character and his personal favorite.
@@macsenpai7006 To be fair to chalter, typhon on s3 shits herself if she is distracted/there are other enemies around the boss because it's not aoe, but that's about it.
@@lordofbanshees In most case Typhon's S3 is a more versatile boss killer. Typhon has better range (it's pseudo global range) and it follows the enemy even during its phase 2. Ch'alter is limited to her small range, even Mlynar's range is larger. Ch'alter has an outrageous DP cost as well. Ch'alter became obsolete after Mlynar's release, Typhon killed her. Wis'adel is not needed to kill an already dead unit.
Damnn,i forgot chalter existed
(Prob this is my coping mechanism of not having her since I've strated playing at her banner😮💨)
good bye chen
and
welcome wisadel
Now we just need to wait until Chen gets her module, if she ever does. Wisadel with and without her module is like night and day.
Except even without a module she's still the most broken unit, the module just makes her deal EVEN MORE DMG just to be sure she won't get powercreeped in any foreseeable future.
Holy Cinema title
Why is this class still called "sniper"?
@@MotivationExceeds Good question Vergil!
'The Snipers class really is made up of snipers' moment
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The comparison is sk unfair like for real 😅
This not close. Typhon's S3 had already powercrept that of Ch'alter's when it comes to boss killing. Then Wis'adel powercrept Typhon's S3. It's not even close. Typhon has been the strongest sniper before Wis'adel's release.
Ray*
Typhon s3 isnt even a practical skill for most content wich is why her s2 is preffered.
@yuurina5092 Not really most players still ranked Typhon higher than Ray. Typhon is much easier to use. Typhon's skill 3 is not situational, sure there are stages that can somehow mitigate it, but it works more often than not. Typhon skill 2 is also one of the best AFK skills, Ray has only one good skill and is very reliant on her summon.
is this with or without chen module? not that it would change the winner but it wouldn’t be as much of a slaughter lol
i need Chalter for my "just surtr it" comps, is anyone know when she got rerun again? 😆
You should spark her when the next summer banner comes out on global
She won’t have a rerun, your only way of getting her is sparking or being very lucky and pulling her as an off banner next summer banner (Pepe’s banner). After that next banner she won’t even have the secondary rate up that the past 3 limited get as off banners, so basically the only reliable way of getting her is sparking. The silver lining is that she will be the first summer unit to drop in spark cost to 200 pulls but If I remember correctly it will only happen next summer banner so saving 200 pulls for 2026 summer banner is the cheapest way of getting her now.
Not reccomended to spark her by this point, get eyja alt instead
Prepare 300 pulls for January brother
Why not use both
Chen alter was never the strongest sniper?
when chen alter will have a rerun?
Never. She's usually sparkable on Summer limited banners, so better save up those 300 pulls if you want her.
@MilkyNep I see, gotta start saving then. By any chance, will she appear by the time lappy alter arrives or nah? Lappy alter is my next target lol
@@_hampt3r_summer event in January iirc she's suppose to be sparkable
I think Wisadel might be better
Tbf Chen isnt even better than Ray Pozy or Typhon and was off meta for a long while
She was mainly so strong because at her release she the only other proper physical damage dealer was literally Silverash and nobody else. Now she has large dp cost, bad range, not so good scaling and pretty eh DPH for todays standards wich explains why she isnt used on IS or CCs in any form.
It wasnt that she was too strong, just that game was much weaker at the time
Yeah to me she fell off as soon as typhon came around
But even before typhon i never really saw her as a broken unit just a really strong and reliable one
She was more of an elite wave cleaner than a boss killer, much like Młynar.
@@tyaty Are u saying Mlynar isnt a boss killer
@@epicdoge541 Typhon and Rosa modules + Pozy were better on all forms anyway, Ray ended the debate and Wisadel ended the entire tought process
Typhon? sure, she have s2 to deal with waves and s3 to kill bosses, Ray? maybe because her big ass range and high damage but Pozy? she was never really that strong, her only selling point is her typewriter, she doesn't target the boss or the heavy enemy but alway decide to aim for the trash mob for some reason, her damage is barely better than Ch'en even though she is ST, just because she kill some boss a little bit faster doesn't mean she broken.
And Chen only real competitor is typhon and walter when it come to clearing enemy waves so stop downplaying her, did she kinda felt off? yes, but not to the point of being unusable in IS and CCs
i just use them both hehe
why do you even play the game then. how is that fun for you, there's literally no challenge
@@psl6145 ?!??!?!?! because i like killing mobs and enemies fast ??? cause its a game ???
@@daveguzman4595 Fastkill goes brr 😆
@@psl6145 You want challenge? IS exist.
@@psl6145when people enjoy the game for other reasons
ngl seeing chalter to Patriot, Ray and Typhon are stronger than her against ST
Chen is nowhere near their value lol, Ray is absolutely better than her, so is typhon and pozy
@@kyarumomochi5146 Chen is more suited for wave clearing doesn't mean she have less value (and pozy is weak af compare to the rest lol)
@@ninhtran6799 Wave clearing is done by every dps these days lmao. And Pozy is absolutely stronger than Chen, she has actual scaling for IS and simply has better cycles and damage than Chen lmao
@@kyarumomochi5146 She ain't killing anything with her shitty aim lol, especially in IS5 when there are alway a group of enemies she will alway aim for the random ass one instead of the actual boss
And big ST can also be done by literally every dps these day but in the current newest IS which is IS5, mostly focus on cleaing wave so Chen is still highly used by plenty of players just as much as any other snipers
@@ninhtran6799 And also can you stop throwing wave clearing in everything like game consists of Annihilation or something. You know what else can wave clear? Thats right. Good cycles and high damage output, Ray is used to wave clear on CCB2 for that reason mate, wave clearing doesnt equal having aoe. We are long past those ages unless you had been sleeping under a rock
GG. Game became BORING ....
I love Ch'en, but Wisadel best sniper
Wisadel is the best operator in the game so its not even a comparison
@galeria_m fax
Wisadel is the best operator*
And even without Wisadel, Chen isnt the best sniper anyway, Ray exists, so does Rosa Typhon Narantuya and Pozy wich are all more valuable than her
@@kyarumomochi5146Omg Rosa better than Chalter lets goooo (The bear wins again!)
@@Sweepingly123 Rosa had been underrated af after her module. Shes same tier as Typhon and somehow people regard her as powercrept lmao
Chalter's more fun to use IMO😁
Spoken like someone who did not get Walter
Indeed, it's always like this with cheat buttons - Chalter wasn't fun back in the day in her prime days just like W today
@@w_is_waifu9803 nope, i get Walter too