How to Relic Guitar Parts For an Aged Look - Billy Penn 300guitars.com
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- Опубликовано: 5 авг 2024
- Here is a video about how to "relic" guitar parts for that aged vintage look. This is the way I've been doing it for a number of years with great results. It's best of you do this in a well ventilated area and wear rubber gloves. After you remove the parts that you want to age let them sit for a while on cardboard or something similar. Check them in about an hour and rinse them with water. See how they look and if you want more aging then put them in for another round. Cut the time for gold hardware down to 10 minutes and see what your parts look like. Gold will age faster than nickel and certainly chrome or stainless steel. Please feel free to ask any questions and leave me some comments on how this works for you. www.300guitars.com/
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when you are restoring old guitars, relicing parts is a necessity. Thanks for your video.
This guy looks like T-Bag from Prison Break.
that's what I was thinking!
YESSS
xD
exactly my first thought haha
I hope he doesn't have any children.
great video Billy!!! just used your method on my "broadcaster" project to age the metal parts...worked perfect...you rock!!!
cam atkinson, handcrafted pickups, canada
hi Billy. used this technique to relic some parts for a old tele project im doing. it worked great. cant believe how good it looks. i did the bridge base plate, screws, string ferrels, everything. many thanks!!!!
im 11 & im a fairly new guitarist. i have been playing for about 2 years mabye 3. & im learning a whole lot. i love guitar, i have played guitar for 5 mabye 6 years, but only started being serious about playing since the past 2 or 3 years. i love & enjoy watching and learning stuff like this! like looking at vintage guitars, learning about them & stuff like relic'd guitars & cool techniques! great videos. i love them, & enjoy them very much! i hope you keep making videos!
thanks lots!
-jordan
Some great info on stuff,I did your suggestion on my scratch plate and it worked stopped that static electric noise !!!!!! thanks again
I used this method, and did every thing exactly as you said. I could not be more happy with the end result. I am currently in the process of relicing my 60's classic player strat. all i have left to do is repaint the body and then re assemble everything. I will definitely make a video with the finished product.
I have used your method twice. Works well, but if it is cold outside the mental parts will sweat causing spots. I used a small glass jar next to the parts for the acid sitting in a plastic shoe box. The fumes aged the parts nicely. The guitar is a Fiesta Red MJT Tele 1959 style.
i would love a pre relic guitar. But i like my guitars alot more just for normal playing and gigging wear. i feel more attached to them that way. Cool Video!!!
Hi Bill, I have a further step that I developed with the acid, that gives a far more realistic appearance. If you look at real vintage parts you'll find areas of great deterioration and hardly any ware on the same part. For instance the bottom of strat saddles, tune-o-matic bridges and stop tails can have bright chrome or nickle work while the top surfaces, which have been exposed to sweat etc are eaten down to the metal. What I do, is cover various areas of the metal with blu tak so that they are not exposed to the vapour. I do the same thing on the under side of plastic parts when I'm staining them with strong coffee etc. It looks really convincing and much more realistic than uniform aging over a whole part. To do it really well, I sometimes do a few steps, perhaps a light overall aging, then various exposure times on certain areas using the blu tak to cover what I want to protect. Hope that is of use, Craig.
Nice...thanks!!
Thanks Billy for the tips and video !
Awesome, very helpful tutorial. Thank you very much
Thanks! I'm going to try it. I have a black 2012 epiphone SG special that I'm going to age the hardware on. I put a pirate sticker on it and I already had skull knobs on it but it gave me an idea for a pirate theme. Rustic hardware and a little bit of paint aging. On the corners.
Bought the acid and used your method to relic fender custom shop strat trem, trem arm and output jack.Worked well, thanks for the post
Thanks for the tips. You gave me one more tool to use with guitar repair and restoration. I look forard to more.
Great Video on relicing thanks for the points I did it on my re- built 62 strat parts... Now it looks like 49 year old guitar....
That works really well!
MJT are doing a body for me. Can't wait to get it. They do great work.
Great Video man!
I'm gonna try this method, thank you.
I just tried this, and I think I have a few important additions because I had mixed results.
First, it is important the arrange the parts in the empty tub properly. The acid fumes end up sticking to the metal, as you can see the little droplets on them. I laid down several tuners in the tub, and noticed one side of the strap button was more effected than the other. This is probably because the fumes were not reaching the button side that was facing down. Also, be careful with chrome. He mentions chrome parts may take longer, but you might not like the results in general. All of the parts I did were chrome, and the input jack boat was heavily effected, while my bridge plate didn't change much. The input jack boat came out looking more like aged nickel.
All in all, this is a good way to age the metal, as all of the parts do look as if they are naturally aged.
i usually put the hardware in a tin jar and add rocks or gravel, then shake it up for about a week.
The disposing of bodies in Breaking Bad comes to mind…
i like this guy. He says things like "It doesn't look realistic" which is nice cause everyone else on youtube who relics guitars is like "so i'm just gonna blow a wad here and then drag is behind my ford pickup down the highway" so finally someone who knows how to do it properly
Thanks!!!
i dont normally like teles but yours looks awesome!!!!!!!!
Great video!
Question for you: when you’re done with the job at hand and the hardware is aged up, do you simply funnel the muriatic acid bag into its jug for its proper storage?
Nice vid, Billy. thanks
This is great! Thank you
Very nice procedure. I made the mistake of soaking a set of vintage style tuners in straight muriatic acid once. They were never the same.
Both guitars look great to me either way , but On the tele # 2, is the reliced hardware chrome or nickel ?
I’ll try this soon as i can. ..!!! Tks.
Nice finish dude
Awesome video, thank you very much!
One question. Would this process damage a non-disassembled humbucker pickup?
Cheers!
Ok I will probably do a video once the guitar is finished. thankyou for the help.
-kyle
Great video! Thanks.
Does this process effect the functionality of the intonation springs and the screws?
great tutorial, will try this on my chrome motorcycle parts. hate the brand new look of it.
very cool. I've been wanting to do this to a les paul i have.
Awesome tips man! Thanks! ;)
Awesome :) I hope one day my workshop will look as epic as yours :) I have a Les Paul Studio 2001 modell. Currently my favorite Gibson year. Sorry if this offends som diehard Gibson men. I also have a Les paul Classic Premium Plus from 95. Also a great guitar. But! Somehow mye sweat seems to have made my hardware look extremely worn. Only after a couple of years of use :O Always fun to see people share passion.
Cheers man
Pretty cool. i like a nice guitar with relic parts.
You can se the Alien method, just trow it away and watch it melt layer after layer
Nice job and good work.
Done a lot with the acid. Been using a rock tumbler a lot too
Toneslingercliff
Thanks for your help and advice Billy, ill let you know how it goes :)
good stuff. do you know what color mj called that second tele? i want an exact color like that. i assume it's a '58 shade, or something similar.
How can I relic active pickups? Covers can't be removed. So can I do that trick for whole pickup?
Thanks for great videos.
Great video and many thanks for sharing this knowledge. I think the process is called 'pickling metal', a funny way of describing it. I have an important question however. The acidic agent is HCl (hydrochloride) but it is usually diluted with water when sold. The solutions you can purchase vary between 5% and 20% HCl. Could you indicate what concentration the solution you used has? I suppose the higher the concentration the quicker the pickle. Thanks!
nice man! i have now idea how to look more vintage on my guitar.. LIKED =)
Normally I HATE "relic-ing" because just as you said, Billy, people OVERDO it so much. But I like the nice, subtle and even aging/patina that your method achieves. Might have to do that to my Bigsby-equipped Tele now, just 'cause. :)
Even though I think relicing has gotten out of hand, I think your relic Tele looks really good. Authentic-looking wear spots and the bridge looks real, not overdone which typically looks phony, as you mentioned.
I like the idea, and I have a question. If you put some on a rag and rubbed a guitar down with it, would it yellow it, and age it as well?
I put my new gold gibson tp tailpiece and tailpiece studs in the vapor for about 40 minutes and after i rinsed it the gold was as shiny as new. Do i need to drop it in diluted muriatic acid?
That makes sense. That would be the only case I'd purposely relic any part of my guitar. Unless that relic was part of an intense moment on stage. I swear never to smash a guitar, but if the mood comes in my music, he's gonna get some bruises. But hey, the bruises add character. Cool video, thumbs up
any chance of damage on open nickel bass tuners? or should it work fine?
can you put a guitar pick up in there to age the pole pieces or would that be a bad idea?
Hey Billy, love your videos! I just picked up some muriatic acid about a couple of weeks ago because I have quite a few guitars on hand (quite a few Squiers) but about 4 high end guitars. One of them a '52 telecaster reissue would look great with that aged look. I saw another video where a guy uses etching solution. It seems to work well, but the muriatic acid seems more authentic, especially in your video. It looks really good! What's your take on that? Great videos and tons of respect bro!!!
Nice vid. Can you send me a closer pic or video of the results on bridge or tuners? Could barely see age. Is this technique closer to fender custom shop relic aging?
@300guitars - Yeah, it's me again. It worked superb, just needed a little more time with the acid, that's all. Right now, i'm working on aging the pickguard, bought a secondhand on ebay from a 1994 strat. If you want to, I could send you a picture of the finishing object. Anyway, thanks for the help!
Hey Billy, thanks for sharing your findings on how to achieve aged hardware, i cant wait to do this to my teles hardware. i was wandering, do i need to take off all the saddles and screws n what not and age those separately? or can i leave them on? thanks!
Great video! I know this is almost 15 years old now however I have a question related to the muriatic acid that hopefully someone can address/answer....can you re-use the acid and pour it back into it's bottle for future use? Since the acid is not actually touching any of the metal parts in the plastic container, can it be re-used or does it lose its strength once decanted? At leat that saves on having to dispose of what one used. Cheers!
How many cycles did your tele hardware go through in order to get your result?
Can you reuse the Muriatic Acid after you age the parts? Thanks.
Thank you very nice info 👍🙏
Is 100% muratic acid you use please?
After using this method will the hardware continue to age quickly without neutralizing the effects?
it makes them feel good
Hey Billy, I have a stratocaster that im planning on relicing. should I do all of the metal parts separately or could i do everything at once? like tuners, bridge, screws, jack all in one batch.
Hey Billy,
Love your videos. What would be a good way to make the new, shiny humbucker covers look a bit "tired" and have this patina vintage look? Is it possible to do it without opening the pickup itself?
thanks.
Great Video! To use this method with tuners with plastic bean knobs, how would you protect the knobs? or do they need protection?
How do I remove natural tarnish on my les
Paul nickel hardware?
Hi Billy, i tried this method with my nickel neck plate and it worked perfectly!
However, when i tried with my gold jack input, it didn't change at all.
Do I need to let it gaze in the tupperware-box a bit longer, or does it not just work with golden materials? / Martin
I think he’s a cool dude- knows what he’s talking about
@300guitars "Otherwise you run the risk of damaging the finish" you just said that...
just wow
Hello Billy, Dan Mostello here long time no talk.You helped me some time back on installing new machine heads where thethe holes had to be reamed out.I wondered if the pick up covers on a Ibanez AZR 200 FM elec. guitar can be removed?Figured if any one would know you would. When you get time maybe you could lookinto it. Can't find any info anywhere. Thanks Billy, stay well,Dan
@300guitars I believe it to be poly. I've heard about sunbathing but I'd rather get advice from a pro. Thanks for the help!
very inspiring... i want to do the muriatic acid technique in a huge recipiernt with the whole guitar, What would happen?
nice..does this work with bigsby tremolos?
hey billy, does this process work on gold too?
What's your idea's on getting that "aged yellowing" of white plastic parts on Fender instruments. I get in so many older Strats, Tele's, etc where the original owner lost the Trem Bar, replaced PuP covers, knobs, whatever and he or a new owner wants it repaired and restored to look like it's appropriate age - yellowed plastic parts. I've tried leaving new "white" parts in Black Tea, Green Tea and the color just isn't right. Leaving in the sun for months isn't an option (time) and if the part gets too hot it will distort its shape.
theodore bagwell, is that you?
LOL
+Ola Kaldestad LOL SO FUCKING TRUE
Hes on the run
Thanks brother
@300guitars yeah! no problem! thanks! i will! and yes it is!
does anybody know if you can do this with guitar pickups
Hi, thanks for this great video!
Where I live I could only get my hands on muriatic acid with a concentration of 30%..
Will that do the job of aging my bigsby vibrato or no?
Thanks again!
I've got a PRS and going to relic it's hardware. Can i do it with the tuners to without messing them up?
Thanks
does this work on the saddles and tuners as well?
Question: if I use this technique with my brand new humbuckers, will it affect the sound or should I better desolder the cover and just apply it to the humbucker covers?
Best,
Hi Billy,
I bought a really nice custom pickguard made of brand new shiny aluminum (AlMg3), would this work on it? Or is there another method to do it otherwise?
Cheers & thanks!
will this work with gold plated stuff?
So, does this work with gold plated parts too?
hi budy
do you know how the pickups on the iron cross guitar was done because i really like that age look on it on the pickup covers
Its a 2006 fender 60's classic player mexican strat. Ive already sanded down the finish on the neck. Im just waiting to get the body repainted before i actually start the project. im just trying to do my research. I have a road worn stratocaster and i was looking to get the neck similar to that.
Did you age the neck on the relic Tele? If so, how did you do it?
Nice workshop
What do you recommend to do for doing relic to the body of a les paul? Also, how would I get my ugly, sticky gloss neck of my les paul down to a satin neck with that beautiful natural wood feel? 0000 steel wool trick? Whats ur opinion
this aging process looks awsome!! great job Billy!! just what i need for the guitar im building. im in the UK, and im struggling to find anywhere to buy muriatic acid. i read somewhere on the internet that muriatic acid is just the old chemical name for hydrochloric acid? would this do the same job?
What exactly will this do to the hardware? Will it rust or just take the chrome off?
What kind of results will this have on sealed grover style tuners, as far as hurting the gears?
Good Job! I find that you are using the best process to achieve aging. -Many other ways, but aging is a process of OXIDATION, and any process that will speed oxidation will work. I first thought of using a bleach mixture (sodium hypochorite) in a fume/compression chamber with pure oxygen (similar to your muriatic acid), but your way is better. Etching acid is good for humbucker covers. NO ONE, has perfected maple fretboard wear & only nitro lacquer fretboards can be aged reasonably.
Con this be done on car or motor bike body part ?
thanks for the advice another quiestion is it possible to change a 12" radius neck to a 1962 reissue 7.25" i have a classic 60s fender