The Soviet Warcycles of WW2

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  • Опубликовано: 24 янв 2025

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  • @BattleOrder
    @BattleOrder  3 года назад +145

    Correction: At around 5:00 the graphic says the AT Battery from 1941 had 4x 45mm AT guns. It actually had 6x (the voiceover is right)

    • @pyeitme508
      @pyeitme508 3 года назад +6

      Noice and love u in Templin Institute Tank video!

    • @pyeitme508
      @pyeitme508 3 года назад +1

      Thanks for the like bro 😎

    • @F1ghteR41
      @F1ghteR41 3 года назад +1

      8:53 Most likely Willys MBs, although later Soviet GAZ-67 equivalents were also quite common.
      10:50 An SG-43 could also be used in that role in lieu of Maxim gun. And again, the vehicle could be GAZ-67.

  • @thecasualfront7432
    @thecasualfront7432 3 года назад +329

    I like how there’s no crap to skip through at the beginning, just straight in to the video. I really like that fact. So refreshing.

    • @videodistro
      @videodistro 3 года назад +13

      Too.many RUclips producers think they are still living in a television era with a wasteful open and close (they think it's cool, even though this not,.so they stick it on) that identifies and advertises the program coming up next. Useful for live television. There is NO such need on RUclips. We know why we clicked on a video. It only annoys the viewer because he/she ends up taking time to fast forward past the useless intro. Wish those folks would realize this is NOT television.

    • @bozo5632
      @bozo5632 3 года назад +5

      @@videodistro A lot of them just don't have enough material to make a 10+ minute video so they stretch it. IIRC YT favors 10+ minutes.
      I think others just like the sound of their own voice and assume it's universal.
      Anyway it's annoying.

  • @vindicare9636
    @vindicare9636 3 года назад +365

    Mad Max: Stalin Road

    • @davidbrennan660
      @davidbrennan660 3 года назад +14

      Less of Max following women about and more about tank production and smashing Gitlerite Divisions

    • @currahee1782
      @currahee1782 3 года назад +50

      Mad Marx

    • @orange8420
      @orange8420 3 года назад +6

      Ruskajaka roga
      Russian road

    • @mostlymessingabout
      @mostlymessingabout 2 года назад +4

      @@currahee1782 hehehe OP missed the opportunity 🤣

    • @ultralegend6067
      @ultralegend6067 2 года назад +3

      Mad Marx*

  • @85szabolcs
    @85szabolcs 3 года назад +135

    My late Grandfather was a despatch rider in the Royal Hungarian Army, I vaguely remember him. He was wounded in action in 1944 while he was delivering a message, but rode on and completed his mission and quite a few of the stories I heard about him involve motorcycles and lots of danger. He was a hard man, but had a heart of gold. He would absolutely love this video.

    • @efka1486
      @efka1486 3 года назад +1

      My great grandfather was also a dispatch rider in the Royal Hungarian army, sadly he died before I was born. Sadly I don’t know much about his service since he never talked much about it to anyone the only thing I know about his service is that he was in Ukraine.

    • @dankovac1609
      @dankovac1609 3 года назад +4

      I'm pretty sure my Great grandpa was in the Royal Hungarian Army at some point too, and he was a horse cavalry messenger or something similar, never really heard enough stories to know (but thinking niw, i should).
      Oh and yes, i said that I'm pretty sure he was, because he lived on Croatia's border in such a place that he has changed nationality and armies 5 times. Quite funny actually.

    • @DanieleCapellini
      @DanieleCapellini 3 года назад +2

      People really are too comfortable being proud of their fascist relatives.

    • @efka1486
      @efka1486 3 года назад +3

      @@DanieleCapellini ah yes ofc cause every axis soldier was a fascist right?

    • @dankovac1609
      @dankovac1609 3 года назад +2

      @@DanieleCapellini Well if you read my comment, i said my Great grandpa changed armies several times, and that doesn't mean he was fascist. He literally never moved out of his home but still ended up being in many different nation's territory. He also never really saw frontline service and was more of a rear echelon messenger on horseback.

  • @pyeitme508
    @pyeitme508 3 года назад +187

    Wow. Hope for Toyota technicals that are used by Special Forces/Special Operations Forces units and how they are used in the future.

    • @AG3624C
      @AG3624C 3 года назад +23

      Look up the tachanka battalions... Russia has a couple battalions of technicals i believe

    • @DarkRyderWhisky
      @DarkRyderWhisky 3 года назад +1

      Literally just off the shelf Hi-Lux.

    • @spacetexan8695
      @spacetexan8695 3 года назад

      @@AG3624C that’s badass, didn’t know that existed!

    • @michaelfodor6280
      @michaelfodor6280 3 года назад +5

      Could also do a bit on the Toyota War as well. In 1987 Libya attacked neighboring Chad and the Chadian Army used their best weapon, the Toyota Hi-Lux, delivering a sound thrashing of the Libyan forces. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_War

  • @dlifedt
    @dlifedt 3 года назад +88

    Been studying eastern front for 15y and you found something I’ve never heard of!
    PS for the historical formations, a 2min evaluation of effectiveness/combat record would be fun.

    • @Jakezillagfw
      @Jakezillagfw 3 года назад +3

      Leave it to the Russians and Germans to come up with some bad shit crazy stuff that just works. Sometimes a little to well but hey efficient and effective.

  • @6thsavage
    @6thsavage 3 года назад +111

    "Rebel Without A Cause 2: Soldiers With Objectives"

    • @logicbomb5511
      @logicbomb5511 3 года назад +4

      US hells angles biker culture was started by a bunch of WW2 vets used to rolling around and liberating towns bedding all the girls.

    • @sannidhyabalkote9536
      @sannidhyabalkote9536 3 года назад

      @@logicbomb5511 🤣

  • @benniotto
    @benniotto 3 года назад +40

    Спасибо товарищ Battle Order! I had no idea the smg company was mounted in half tracks. Always assumed they were either motorised, or parceled out as tankodesantniki. Thanks for the informative video!

    • @BattleOrder
      @BattleOrder  3 года назад +18

      Hey. They were mounted in M3A1 Scout Cars or American M2 half-tracks in recon units only. In normal SMG companies, they were motorized, footmobile or tank riders depending on the specific type of unit

  • @kamiloniszczuk9685
    @kamiloniszczuk9685 3 года назад +48

    As they say, "red goez fasta"

  • @rodrigop9714
    @rodrigop9714 3 года назад +6

    As a rider myself and WW2 enthusiast you can imagine how much i liked this video and learned w it :D

  • @markperacullo7541
    @markperacullo7541 3 года назад +21

    US: harley-davidson rider gangs
    meanwhile in
    SOVIET RUSSIA:

  • @harv5425
    @harv5425 3 года назад +69

    im surprised on how effective they are

    • @aleksaradojicic8114
      @aleksaradojicic8114 3 года назад +34

      @iwfj giggi How ineffective you mean? They were solid combination of mobility and firepower that could exploit openings.

    • @aker1993
      @aker1993 3 года назад +2

      @@aleksaradojicic8114 they use their motorcycle recon right

  • @zahfa7608
    @zahfa7608 3 года назад +86

    Speaking of Soviet motorcycle, make one about Soviet cavalry.

    • @leethejuggler1486
      @leethejuggler1486 3 года назад +4

      Literally an American motorcycle

    • @sovietred7371
      @sovietred7371 3 года назад +1

      @@leethejuggler1486 owned by the Soviets, meaning it is Soviet's bike

    • @F1ghteR41
      @F1ghteR41 3 года назад +11

      @@leethejuggler1486 It seems like you've missed the part about Soviet motorcycle manufacture.

  • @tolik5929
    @tolik5929 5 месяцев назад +1

    Lot of European armies used motorcycles modified to carry several things . It was an easy , fast , and economical way to move machine guns , and light artillery , like 20mm auto cannons , around the battlefield , without having to produce , special made carriers . The Scandinavians did that as well .

  • @alexguymon7117
    @alexguymon7117 3 года назад +30

    I was never aware that there were units of this size that made such large usage of Lend-Lease equipment in the Soviet Red Army. Although much is written about Lend Lease equipment in the USSR, the fact that there were entire regiment size units that mainly used Western equipment for mobility and we're armed with substantial amounts of Western small arms is something I never knew about.

    • @jeffreywacker3598
      @jeffreywacker3598 3 года назад +6

      If I remember correctly, for two years the uniforms of the Red Army were made with American material. And were driven to the front in Studebaker trucks if the rail system was destroyed in the area.

    • @nagibochnik23
      @nagibochnik23 3 года назад +7

      @@jeffreywacker3598 I tell you more from what i've read - USSR only have built 100 locomotives during war, but received 1000 by Lend-Lease programm. And this can be considered as huge boost for Red Army mobility. Studebaker trucks were heavily used for multiple lunch rocket systems BM -13(BM - 31) and totally USSR recieved 400000 trucks by Lend-Lease programm.

    • @jeffreywacker3598
      @jeffreywacker3598 3 года назад +2

      @@nagibochnik23 I remember reading the numbers on the Soviet lend lease locomotives, I just couldn't remember the source I read it from so I just didn't mention it in case someone asked for references. Those are truly staggering numbers, and I never knew the Soviet Union only built 100 locomotives (!) during the war. Thank you for sharing that fact with me.

    • @nagibochnik23
      @nagibochnik23 3 года назад +4

      @@jeffreywacker3598 Actually I was not correct in this numbers: USSR received 1900 coal-powered locomotives (which was 2,4 times more than soviet production of coal - powered locomotives, so it gives us about 800 locomotives produced in USSR) and 66 diesel powered locomotives (which was 11 times more than soviet production in diesel - powered locomotives), train cars ten times more than soviet production, and half of all train tracks used during war period.

    • @robertvirabjans9377
      @robertvirabjans9377 3 года назад +9

      @@nagibochnik23 While 'US supplied more locomotives than USSR built during the war' is correct. To claim that they gave huge boost in mobility to the red army is dishonest. First American-made locomotives (model S160) were delivered to USSR only in 1943. With slightly less then 200 being only delivered that year. . The next big batches of locomotives which where the EA and EM types only started being deliver after may 1944 with majority of stocks being delivered in 45 and after. Meanwhile the Soviet union had still a park of more then 10 thousand locomotives. Then things like the fact that not all Land lease supplied loco's (Don't remember which model) were able to use the Soviet tracks as they where to heavy for and only were used on rebuilt tracks. If anything you could make a case that post war the newly arrived stock played a part in Soviet Unions reconstruction.

  • @Turnet47
    @Turnet47 3 года назад +8

    This type of historical videos are really good

  • @BabyGreen162
    @BabyGreen162 3 года назад +17

    They see us rollin'
    They runnin'
    Advancin' we tryna catch 'em red & dirty.
    Tryna catch 'em red & dirty
    Tryna catch 'em red & dirty

  • @MaziarYousefi
    @MaziarYousefi 3 года назад +2

    I like when you do topics that many don't know even exist.

  • @christopherwang4392
    @christopherwang4392 3 года назад +7

    This video made me think of the motorcycle chase in _Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull_ where Indiana Jones and Mutt Williams rode on Mutt's Harley-Davidson to escape Soviet spies.

  • @nyx7842
    @nyx7842 3 года назад +11

    This is SICK!!!

  • @nightdaychannel828
    @nightdaychannel828 Год назад +1

    Totally fascinating unit capabilities and really well made and through video!

  • @YukkoChan28
    @YukkoChan28 3 года назад +3

    those tachanka Jeeps looks cool

  • @syariffadilah2949
    @syariffadilah2949 3 года назад +12

    Tachanka 2.0 : electric boogalo

  • @SLDFMechWarrior
    @SLDFMechWarrior 3 года назад +47

    So the Soviets were the first road warriors 😂

    • @davidbrennan660
      @davidbrennan660 3 года назад +15

      Like Max Max but with greater political perception and an understanding of their historic mission for Mother Russia.

    • @Blazo_Djurovic
      @Blazo_Djurovic 3 года назад +5

      Let's be honest, Germans started war with these :D

    • @currahee1782
      @currahee1782 3 года назад +15

      Mad Marx: Road Proletariat

  • @judahjohnston9954
    @judahjohnston9954 3 года назад +3

    that intro led me thinking about a motorcycle (or rather bicycle )only strategy in hoi4

  • @johnchaves1642
    @johnchaves1642 3 года назад +24

    Hey, what software/method do you use for the TO&E slides? I want to do something similar for my 40k Astra Militarum custom/homebrew Regiment.

    • @BattleOrder
      @BattleOrder  3 года назад +13

      Adobe Illustrator

    • @ahmadillo4959
      @ahmadillo4959 3 года назад +5

      A man of culture I see. His content's so useful when it comes to interesting regimental organisation and structures to import to my own Guard regiment in 40K

    • @quentintin1
      @quentintin1 3 года назад +2

      @@ahmadillo4959 ikr, i love using historical TO&E as basis to form guard units, and videos like these are a great way to see and understand the formations discussed, in this channel in particular they are so well presented

  • @User-kw5bk
    @User-kw5bk 3 года назад +9

    And those motorbike gangs think they're so cool, these Soviet bikers are the superior species

  • @ВикторКутузов-й6э
    @ВикторКутузов-й6э 3 года назад +20

    Oh my, so quality content! My hat off, as a Russian💪

  • @sohrabroozbahani4700
    @sohrabroozbahani4700 3 года назад +3

    One day you should explain this assigned platoon from company hq to me in details... how this organic restructuring works in combat time, and why out of combat those troops are tabled outside those units which they are actually organised to be part of in the first place...

    • @aleksaradojicic8114
      @aleksaradojicic8114 3 года назад +3

      As such, they can be used directly under company HQ or assigned to other combat formation on need of that formation. They are outside those units for tactical flexibility, because like I said, they can be used in few different ways while other formations do not need there capabilities on permanent basics.

  • @yukito8148
    @yukito8148 3 года назад +8

    so in a nuthsell, gun bikes

  • @NapoleonBonaparte5
    @NapoleonBonaparte5 2 года назад

    I couldn't unhear that Medal of Honor soundtrack you put into this video certainly loved those games back in the day

  • @Mishn0
    @Mishn0 3 года назад +5

    The former Ural importer's story was that the Germans gave the Russians the R71 tooling when they upgraded their military bike to the R65.

    • @michaelfodor6280
      @michaelfodor6280 3 года назад +3

      Funny since Ural's official story is that they secretly bought six R71s in Germany and then smuggled them into the USSR via Sweden. Then heroic Soviet engineers reverse engineered the bike and made the M72. Though I think your story might be more right than mine. :D

    • @ClockworkNeanderthal
      @ClockworkNeanderthal Год назад +1

      My understanding is that after the pact between Germany and the Soviets, the USSR purchased the tooling etc for the R71 from Germany as it had not been selected for use by the Wehrmacht (the Zundapp KS750 and BMW R75 were the designs that won, I believe). As the fellow above me has said, the official soviet story after Barbarossa was that they sneakily acquired them through the Swedes, but that is a big old fib...

  • @cm275
    @cm275 3 года назад +10

    Sons of Stalin MC

  • @JMACCSArmiesOfMiddleEarth
    @JMACCSArmiesOfMiddleEarth 3 года назад +1

    Amazing Video. Love these force organisation vids.

  • @stevenboyd3756
    @stevenboyd3756 2 года назад +1

    Wow. Very informative.

  • @Panos-xo9rc
    @Panos-xo9rc 3 года назад +2

    Ultimate enduro race.

  • @ronmaximilian6953
    @ronmaximilian6953 3 года назад +8

    In other words, American motorcycles became the horses for Soviet light cavalry. Instead of step horses for horse archers, Harley-Davidson motorbikes where the steeds of choice for people with submachine guns.

    • @BattleOrder
      @BattleOrder  3 года назад +14

      They did for traditional light cavalry roles *within* tank units anyways. The Soviets did have dozens of horse cavalry divisions during the war (like around 87 created during the war, probably about a third left by the end of the war) as mobile forces.

    • @imtiredtiredtired
      @imtiredtiredtired 3 года назад +8

      Thanks, now i'm imagining hordes of Harley riders with SMG galloping across the steppe with Mongolian throat music in the background

    • @ronmaximilian6953
      @ronmaximilian6953 3 года назад

      @@imtiredtiredtired I can give you Mongols on bikes and Mongolian throat singing. ruclips.net/video/jM8dCGIm6yc/видео.html
      There are ethnic Mongolian groups Russia (Kalmyks and Buryats). The USSR and Japan fought a small war over the Manchurian-Mongol border.

    • @Jarod-te2bi
      @Jarod-te2bi Год назад

      @@BattleOrderplease talk about these cavalry divisions and times cavalrymen charged sword drawn I heard that actually happened (with sun machine guns of Peru e why Easton that in call of duty vanguard?)

  • @kino_enjoyer
    @kino_enjoyer 3 года назад +5

    12:02 Like fathers, like sons

  • @YWang-on3cj
    @YWang-on3cj 3 года назад +3

    5:40 moments before the dude slipped over

  • @Lance-Urbanian-MNB
    @Lance-Urbanian-MNB 3 года назад

    "bikes reeking havoc" brilliant description for today's understandings. :)

  • @aeroaero5472
    @aeroaero5472 3 года назад +3

    Could you please make a video on the brandenburgers?

  • @trstock7760
    @trstock7760 3 года назад +2

    This was great! I'm working on a recce formation for Flames of War right now and this was great motivation!

  • @metalmadsen
    @metalmadsen 7 месяцев назад

    Never knew this - cool video

  • @nyxknight7555
    @nyxknight7555 2 года назад +1

    I kinda wonder if something like this would work in a modern force? Rec or maybe anti tank add in some drones on the back of a decent sized but still pretty quite bike idk

  • @reddevilparatrooper
    @reddevilparatrooper 6 месяцев назад

    The Russians I think used many of their cavalrymen and mounted them on motorcycles. I think the best came from the Kuban and Eastern Ukraine soldiers who came from the Cossack stock of people. Very well versed as traditional light cavalrymen. Cossack cavalry had to be very mobile and use the terrain to avoid detection and to flank. A platoon of motorcycle infantry or cavalry had enough automatic weapons and ammo on them to carry out recon missions, ambushes, or flank attacks to harass or take and hold an objective till relieved. They were the few Soviet units that were autonomous in their operational planning when given a direction to operate in.

  • @lt_darkseekerantique3911
    @lt_darkseekerantique3911 3 года назад +2

    Damm, the white scars do be terrifying….

  • @eyesofstatic9641
    @eyesofstatic9641 3 года назад +5

    Awe hell yeah!

  • @tankart3645
    @tankart3645 3 года назад +17

    Can you do a video on the Estonian Defence Forces, and on the Estonian Defence leauge (KL), as KL is actually bigger in manpower than the EDF. Also Estonia is going soon get Type-x'es unmanned tanks to support their CV90's.

  • @user-wg3wj6ur9z
    @user-wg3wj6ur9z Год назад +1

    I have a Jeep and an anti materials rifle too. I didn’t know the Russians had it also

  • @NoName-sb9tp
    @NoName-sb9tp 3 года назад +4

    Well, another reason why Italy make a Vespa with recoilless rifle 😂

  • @fulcrum2951
    @fulcrum2951 3 года назад +6

    In a country like the Soviet Union, those kinds of units works best

  • @neilwilson5785
    @neilwilson5785 Год назад

    Really interesting.

  • @samdumaquis2033
    @samdumaquis2033 2 года назад +1

    This isn't your motorbike, it is OUR motorbike (piles on 3 people on 1 motorbike)

  • @cascadianrangers728
    @cascadianrangers728 Год назад +1

    Great idea. Tanks need people on the ground to spot for and protect them. But infantry can't keep up with tanks, forcing armored units to move as slow as the most exhausted, heavily laden ground pounder slogging thru mud and hating life
    Motorcycle dragoons are the obvious answer if you cant or wont mechanize the infantry supporting the tanks. I bet Russia is wishing they kept some of these units around righht now, as their t90s explode and throw their turrets all around

  • @Allan_aka_RocKITEman
    @Allan_aka_RocKITEman Год назад

    @BattleOrder >>> Great video...👍

  • @theemoTV19
    @theemoTV19 Год назад +1

    Could you do the German motorcycle corps

  • @rokospalj4328
    @rokospalj4328 3 года назад +8

    Make video about Croatian rifle squad or IDF rifle squad.

    • @peeneye8274
      @peeneye8274 3 года назад +6

      There is nothing interesting about Croatian squad formations when compared to other NATO counterparts.

  • @iwantcrawfish6110
    @iwantcrawfish6110 3 года назад +1

    Yoooo templen told me to come here and checks youz outz,. So, hear I am toots and I like what i see.....see. The boss subscribes

  • @mixererunio1757
    @mixererunio1757 3 года назад +6

    Motokomando!

  • @weijiaxiang1325
    @weijiaxiang1325 3 года назад

    4:22 why was that officer saluting with left hand?

  • @drinksnapple8997
    @drinksnapple8997 3 года назад +2

    Those look like URAL (BMW license-built).

  • @RemoveChink
    @RemoveChink 3 года назад +1

    This is fucking sick yo

  • @ethanhatcher5533
    @ethanhatcher5533 2 года назад

    Light cav on the iron pony, whats not to love

  • @darkhope97
    @darkhope97 3 года назад +1

    10:48 did I saw tachankas

  • @lepmuhangpa
    @lepmuhangpa 8 месяцев назад

    It worked back then, it works today.

  • @EzraelVio
    @EzraelVio 5 месяцев назад

    Welcome back Soviet shock motorcycle units

  • @killfear
    @killfear 3 года назад +1

    templin institute sent me!

  • @p0xus
    @p0xus 3 года назад +3

    I have to say, I don't think those caps will do much help in terms of head protection in a motorcycle crash.

    • @fulcrum2951
      @fulcrum2951 3 года назад

      Its the Eastern Front, there's more to be worried about aside from the occasional crashes

  • @Mark-i9k5i
    @Mark-i9k5i 4 месяца назад

    Ural motorcycles are super popular in Russia 🇷🇺 now

  • @CashSache
    @CashSache 3 года назад

    We love to see it.

  • @markdunn2076
    @markdunn2076 3 года назад +2

    How about an Irish infantry company at the time of the siege of Jadotsville.

  • @Drew-vv9ef
    @Drew-vv9ef 3 года назад +1

    Nice

  • @Bigbacon
    @Bigbacon Год назад

    Can you a video soviet armored car use lime the ba10s and ba64s?

  • @mikhailpavlichenko4948
    @mikhailpavlichenko4948 3 года назад +2

    Alternate German name for the Eastern Front DLC: Ivan and Indians, oh my god there's more of them.

  • @samwouters9984
    @samwouters9984 3 года назад +1

    Could u do the modern russian mechanized armed forces?

    • @BattleOrder
      @BattleOrder  3 года назад

      We did: ruclips.net/video/felcqDnfrGA/видео.html

  • @MedicalTape_xX
    @MedicalTape_xX 3 года назад

    Oh this is cool

  • @solisgod
    @solisgod 3 года назад

    anyone know what the soundtrack is called?

  • @АлександрИгнатьев-ю5д

    BMW and Ural motobike brothers in Ww2.

  • @riomine1984
    @riomine1984 3 года назад +4

    It warms my heart to know that most of the stuff those guys used was from the USA

  • @BijiMustardGas
    @BijiMustardGas 3 года назад +4

    Can you do Egyptian Army organization?

    • @davidbrennan660
      @davidbrennan660 3 года назад

      Their Military Ceremonial Band has to be heard to be believed.

    • @BijiMustardGas
      @BijiMustardGas 3 года назад

      @@davidbrennan660 Despite this, the Egyptian Army is vastly different from the one that met Israel in 1973 and has been restructured almost completely. So it would be a fun video to see. Especially since we never hear or get know anything about non-western army structures and organization, and even less so Arab armies.

    • @aleksaradojicic8114
      @aleksaradojicic8114 3 года назад +2

      @@BijiMustardGas Depends if they have sources around which they can work.

  • @pavelslama5543
    @pavelslama5543 3 года назад +2

    Germans: Hey Hans, have you heard about the debacle at Stalingrad? The Soviets were absolutely crazy.
    Crazy soviets on a Harly: Weeeeeee, comrade!

  • @louiswilkins9624
    @louiswilkins9624 3 года назад

    Sweet

  • @feedingravens
    @feedingravens 3 года назад +4

    Funny that practically all the footage of motorcycles shows boxer engines, i.e. it is all the Ural M72, the copy of the BMW R71.
    So the "American" in the title is pretty imaginary - from the footage.
    It may easily be that massive amounts of Harleys were delivered, like all the other vehicles you have footage of, but...

    • @sator7806
      @sator7806 3 года назад +6

      Soviet propaganda footage tended to show as much soviet-made equipment as possible, somewhat similarly to how mechanized units were over represented in German footage.
      Also, a lot of the footage shown seems to be early war or even from pre war exercises: look at the almost total lack of PPSh-41s in favor of Mosin nagants (clearly shown at 4:25 ). This would explain the lack of lend lease equipment.

    • @feedingravens
      @feedingravens 3 года назад +1

      @@sator7806 Of course; I can understand the issue of available footage. I only do not understand the "American" in the title. Effictively it is a (good) video of russian motorcycle troops and almost as second part of lend-lease equipment.

    • @BattleOrder
      @BattleOrder  3 года назад +12

      The Soviets received 30,000 American and British motorcycles during the war and only produced 13,000 themselves. Early war and pre-war footage from before receiving all those motorcycles is simply what is more available. The heavy use of Harley-Davidson and Indian motorcycles in these types of units is well documented

  • @prezmrmthegreatiinnovative3235
    @prezmrmthegreatiinnovative3235 3 года назад +8

    do vids about the ESTONIAN DEEENCE FORCES Brigades and other units equipment and etc

    • @tankart3645
      @tankart3645 3 года назад +2

      Yes pls, but maybe he should do it later, as Estonia is going to have unmanned tanks to support their CV90's in a year or so, making Estonia one of Europe's strongest armies. So doing it now wouldn't really be maybe that good.

    • @prezmrmthegreatiinnovative3235
      @prezmrmthegreatiinnovative3235 3 года назад +2

      @@tankart3645 alright thx ill wait

    • @tankart3645
      @tankart3645 3 года назад +2

      @@prezmrmthegreatiinnovative3235 I don't know when they will come. I think they will start to mass produce the Type-x in 2022, as it is still in it's final stateges of testing. Tho making a video on Estonian Defence Force and Estonian Defence leauge, will be cool even without Type-x'es.

    • @prezmrmthegreatiinnovative3235
      @prezmrmthegreatiinnovative3235 3 года назад +1

      @@tankart3645 alright

    • @aleksandrhellgate7396
      @aleksandrhellgate7396 3 года назад +3

      @@tankart3645 " making Estonia one of Europe's strongest armies"... Stop! Just stop!

  • @originalpastaman5470
    @originalpastaman5470 3 года назад +1

    So how would these guys actually fight? Do they just shoot shit from their motorcycles from far away? How do you fight with a motorcycle?

    • @trololoev
      @trololoev 3 года назад +6

      i think mostly like high-mobility infantry.

    • @Sotrudnik_fonda
      @Sotrudnik_fonda 3 года назад +1

      Differently. Dismounted and on motorcycles. 44-45 Soviet motorcyclists arranged Mad Max in reality.

  • @khcstewie
    @khcstewie 3 года назад

    Sweeet new video

  • @chrisfrank4000
    @chrisfrank4000 3 года назад

    I had a dnepr what a pos but I miss it lol

  • @Jarod-vg9wq
    @Jarod-vg9wq 3 года назад +1

    I wonder if the Russian military or any military still uses motorcycles in any way?

    • @michaelfodor6280
      @michaelfodor6280 3 года назад +2

      The US Marines still use the M1040 which is diesel engined Kawasaki KLR-650. More militaries are switching to quads since they're easier to ride & more versatile. The Chinese PLA uses the Chiang Jiang 750 sidecar but I think it's the only one due to inherent stability issues of the sidecar design.

    • @azuaraikrezeul1677
      @azuaraikrezeul1677 Год назад +1

      They now use atv for their at companies

  • @sparklestonebro
    @sparklestonebro 3 года назад

    music?

  • @rsp7029
    @rsp7029 2 года назад +2

    I am waiting to see video of Ukrainians on dirt bikes with AT launchers.

    • @epicgamer3614
      @epicgamer3614 2 года назад +2

      They already are i believe, way to make their grandparents proud from fighting german fascists on motorbikes to russian ones.

    • @Brslld
      @Brslld Год назад

      ​@@epicgamer3614based

  • @axdde6428
    @axdde6428 Год назад

    pmc wagner still uses motorcycles

  • @Jarod-te2bi
    @Jarod-te2bi Год назад

    Wondering such units can exist today?

    • @daniels0376
      @daniels0376 Год назад

      As far as I know, only small, elite Special Operation Forces still use motorcycles and quad bikes, but only in certain occasions and on certain terrains.

  • @comradepolarbear6920
    @comradepolarbear6920 3 года назад +2

    Why don't countries just copy the enemy when they're clearly outmatched in a certain field. Like the Americans could've copied the mg 42.

    • @aleksaradojicic8114
      @aleksaradojicic8114 3 года назад +16

      Because doctrinal reasons.

    • @comradepolarbear6920
      @comradepolarbear6920 3 года назад

      @@aleksaradojicic8114 that's dumb it's war

    • @aleksaradojicic8114
      @aleksaradojicic8114 3 года назад +19

      @@comradepolarbear6920 You wage war by that doctrine. It is dumb only to one that does not understand how military works.

    • @maximgun3833
      @maximgun3833 3 года назад +13

      Mostly due to doctrine and logistics. Its not just about copying the design, testing and making it ready for production but also to design the doctrinal use around the gun as well. This could take a long time and may not even be worth it in the larger scheme of things, especially when you have to supply a war fought on 2 different fronts far far away.
      As for the MG42, the US did in fact try to copy the design but faced development issues as the MG42's loading mechanism wasn't able to chamber the longer .30-06 cartridge reliably, among other things. They were not able to fix these issues by the time the war ended unfortunately. However, design elements of the MG42 would later end up on the M60 machinegun instead.
      edit: fixed my sentence structure a bit

    • @Maverick-gg2do
      @Maverick-gg2do 3 года назад +14

      You don't fight a war in the objectively "best" way possible. You fight a war in what you "perceive" as the best way possible for "you"
      There was some development on a copy of the MG42, however there wasn't really serious thought on adopting it. The weapon clashed with the doctrine fielded by the US army at the time.
      To the US Army, the MG42 was superfluous. It had an unnecessarily high rate of fire which limited the length of it's bursts and expended incredible amounts of ammunition. This was pointless to the US army as they thought that a more accurate, slower firing machinegun could achieve the same goal of suppressing the enemy at a considerable lower expendature in ammunition. This meant a much lower logistical burden and that troops did not have to carry as much ammunition.
      In addition, the regular US army rifle squad emphasized mobility. This is why the squad's automatic weapon is the BAR instead of the much more comparable M1919. The BAR is much lighter than the M1919, uses less ammunition, and thus requires less ammunition to be carried. The squad is thus less burdened and able to move more quickly than otherwise.
      Giving a regular US infantry squad a heavy, ammo hungry, lead spewing monster does not make sense if you intend to fight in the way the US army invisions itself fighting.
      The MG42 was developed to meet the needs of the German army of the period. An army that was expecting to be outnumbered. An army that thought it necessary to have superior firepower to succeed. The high rate of fire makes sense in this context as what you like in numbers, you make up for in the individual firepower. If a smaller German squad can match, if not overwhelm the firepower of a larger allied unit, then the burden of mobility and logistics is an acceptable loss.
      In summary, different countries have different limitations and freedoms imposed on them and thus fight in different ways according to different doctrines. Countries do not copy each other because it generally doesn't make sense for them to do so, they fight in different ways. Unless they adopt a similar style of fighting, such as for example the Soviets adopting drum mag SMGs from the Finns and the close range tactics with them, countries generally adopt the weapons that serve the way they intend to fight best.

  • @Matheus54321
    @Matheus54321 3 года назад

    Good 🇧🇷🔥

  • @vesperlynd9156
    @vesperlynd9156 3 года назад

    Son of Order ...

  • @Scrat335
    @Scrat335 Год назад

    You never hear about this part of the Soviet War machine.

  • @mart4144
    @mart4144 Год назад

    Tachankas turned into jeep tachankas

  • @jabreck1934
    @jabreck1934 3 года назад

    Thumbnail says Ura !
    Instead of Ural.

    • @BattleOrder
      @BattleOrder  3 года назад +6

      Ura (ура) is a Russian battle cry. It is referencing that, not Ural.

    • @jabreck1934
      @jabreck1934 3 года назад

      @@BattleOrder So the video is not about the Ural motorcycle? Ok

  • @mostlymessingabout
    @mostlymessingabout 2 года назад +1

    Polish calvary... 1 🐎 power
    Soviet calvary... 50 🐎 🐴 🎠 🏇 power

  • @davidbrennan660
    @davidbrennan660 3 года назад +1

    Urrah!