The 1854 Bombardment of Greytown
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- In 1854, the United States Navy Sloop of War Cyane bombarded what President Franklin Pierce called "a piratical resort of outlaws." The attack on Greytown, Nicaragua, defined the nature of Presidential authority to use the military to this day.
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I too have a history degree and I love history, but there are so many seemingly insignificant events that have outsized consequences that it is impossible to keep track of them all. Thanks for keeping these events from being truly forgotten.
David Rose the butterfly flaps it wings
@Stimpy&Ren History is like math, inherently fascinating if you take the trouble to understand it. Very few people who really understand it and are good at it teach it in school. Which is why so many people hate it.
David Rose do you remember the USS LIBERTY And what Israel did to our soldiers Sir.
Shane Young: Tin foil hat alert!
My great, great grandfather led a party of 7 to the California Gold Rush in 1851, not running off, but leaving his wife, who was 8 months pregnant (try that nowadays!). They took a steamship from Savannah, GA. They stopped at Cuba to refuel, but weren't allowed to get off with their firearms, because there had just been a rebel uprising, the first attempt at "Cuba Libre". The Spanish were paranoid US citizens, because the rebels may have had some US backing. Great, Great Grandfather said in his ledger (He didn't keep a journal, but occasionally would write something interesting in his ledger, which he kept, to keep up w/ expenses), that the Cubans would "tip their hats with a machete". Anyway, they went on to Nicaragua and took a boat up the river, where they were attacked by a boat full of Indians brandishing knifes, but that boat turned back, when G G Grandfather and his party brandished their pistols. G G Grandfather didn't put much detail down, but they did make it to California and brought back around $800 in Gold and $2300 in silver. One of their party died of the same thing that killed Bobby Jones, the golfer (can't pronounce it, much less spell it), Syringomylia, I think, while they were still in California. They actually sent the dead man's share back to his widow in Georgia, when they could have just told her, that he just happened to spend it all, right before he died! It was sent by someone going back, who signed a pledge, that he would deliver it, "unless it were unavoidably lost", and it actually got back to her!
G G Grandfather made it back to Georgia 2 or 3 years later. I don't know any details of the trip back, but family lore says he walked up to the front door and there was a 3 year old and his 4 year old brother playing in the yard. He overheard the younger boy ask the older one, "Who's that?" and the older one exclaimed, "That just might be our Pa!". They lived somewhere around Dahlonega, GA, so apparently, G G Grandfather and his party already had some experience in mining. ...Anyhow, they bought an 800 acre farm, further south, in what would become Banks County, with his share and led a prosperous and righteous life.
One G G Grandfather's sons, he ended up with 8 or 9 children I think, filed the ledger in the Banks County Courthouse in 1905, so that's how I even know any of this, since, overall, family lore is notoriously unreliable. Usually at best, it's a game of Broken Telephone. I think, that the uncle, who filed it in the courthouse was ahead of his time, because usually, something like an old ledger would have been used to start a fire, or even have the same ultimate fate as Sears or Montgomery Ward catalogs had in those days!
I'm going off the top of my head, but I believe, it started in 1851, but I don't remember what month? I'd always pictured them going up the river in a row boat, in Nicaragua (I think, they may have referred to it differently, like maybe Central America, but can't remember at the moment), when they encountered the attacking Indians and ran them off by "brandishing their pistols", but maybe they were on a steam boat?
History Guy, My Great, Great Grandfather's odyssey began sometime early in your video. I'll have to get out my copy of his ledger, and study up on this part of history, and maybe I'll be able to glean more detail. I don't even know if he went back overland, or returned to Georgia, the way he came.
Btw: The ledger does have the name of the Steamship, that they sailed from Savannah on, but I don't recall it. Some typical name like, "The Columbia", or something like that.
If you can consider digitizing the historical ledger that would help south research and in case of a court house fire[they do happen]. It sounds like an important document!
Cool story.
@@dragonsword7370 Good point.
As someone who often finds himself in dusty couthouse record rooms, I often run into dead ends, when doing research, due to missing records because of past courthouse fires.
Btw: The guy who died of Syringomylia (sic?), died of it by another word in the ledger, which I don't remember. I had to do research to find out what the modern term for it was and found "Syringomylia". Sort of like "Tuberculosis" used to be called "Consumption". Syringomylia is caused by trauma to the back, which inflames the sheathing around the nerves in the spinal cord, causing MS like paralysis. Back in the time of my g g grandfather, it was often caused by being thrown from a horse or from a high fall. The ledger doesn't indicate what caused it, but does show how much the doctor charged and how much the planks cost to make a coffin for their dead colleague. Syringomylia either kills in a couple of weeks, as in this example, or stretches out for years, first being barely noticeable, then getting worse over many years, as in the case of golfer, Bobby Jones. I don't think, he ever knew for sure, how he got it, but a rumor around Atlanta, supposidly from people who knew Jones (disclaimer: I heard it from my Dad, who was bad about passing things along without checking them out) was, that an over-zealous masseur, when he was in Scotland, cracked his back & went too far.
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Thanks for putting out such great content so frequently.
Thank you for this history of Nicaragua. How the country got its name is fascinating. Nicaragua has always resisted forgein rule. The people are genuine. Hard-working and honest and just like to be left to their own rule. They will fight when necessary to maintain their way of life. My husband and in laws are Nicaraguan and I am blessed to have such wonderful family in my life.
You're lucky to taste the food.. I miss it.
Thx I’m Nicaraguan and yes we’ve had a hard history ever since white men set foot on our small corner of the world suffering is all we’ve ever know why do you think Nicaragua is so poor because of everything we’ve been through. The country never really had time to grow is always been on some kind of oppression
History is the context for today. Those who learn and understand the breadth of that context are able to understand the depth of today's issues. Those who do not flounder about thinking social media actually has substance. Thank you, History Guy.
Well said.
Michael Goecker Thank you for that comment, oh that modern children could recall that history is the basis of the present, and historic events and persons cannot be fully understood using a lens of today, but rather only by a review of the general beliefs, perspectives, and philosophies of the time.
Social media may not have substance but it will win the presidency next time, like it did last time. Sad.
People don't remember what took place 5 years ago, let alone a100.
@@alanbolton7803 Did you know that Paul McCartney had a band before "Wings"??!
WOW... I was wondering where this story was going. It always amazing how something that seems insignificant, to the point that it’s been forgotten, can be so incredibly relevant today.
The end of the story, almost a footnote, is the most historically significant part which affects the country and the world to this very day.
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I loved the way you tied a forgotten piece of history to what drives modern events to this day. It really makes the history come alive.
Always learning something from The History Guy.
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Growing up in the neighborhood with the highest concentration of Nicaraguans in the U.S.A., all I can say is I'm very happy they didn't end up with a canal cutting through their lovely and pristine country - and that I'm sure they would have and did take Pierce's insults with a sense of complimentary pride.
Cheers for this insightful video, History Guy. Always wonderful.
What neighborhood is that?
@@Marvin.45 Sweetwater, FL
Great video. Another great analysis of history and how it effects us to this day. Another example of why it is important to study and be knowledgeable in history.
Yes ,another great example of "the special relationship" between us and the yanks where the yanks ,our special cousins keep screwing us over and dragging us into thier messes as well
How could anyone dislike this nice man? He is great at retelling history and tells interesting stories and videos to go along with it. Thank you, History Guy. Also, I like your variety of bowties, they are quite nice.
Quentin well said. Many teachers could learn from this channel. Things are told factually and interestingly.
@@denniswarren3211 Yep. You're very right. I think education systems around the world could benefit from factual history channels like this one.
I love your videos, they are all truly outstanding works. This one in particular is among your best. I specifically love how appropriate your sponsor, Magellan TV, is to your channel. It is one of the few examples where I was happy to have an ad embedded in a youtube video. Thanks for the free month of Magellan TV and for your outstanding work on this channel.
I AM happy you've gotten a sponsor, History Guy. Your work here has value, and I am pleased to see that being rewarded.
The way that you explained the connection of the court case regarding presidential authority makes this bit of history nothing less than news we can use today.
Thank you very much!
Although always interesting *and* entertaining, each new episode reflects added depth beyond the mere oh-I-didn't-know-that. Well done!
You remind me very much of the biology teacher at my high school, who had a genuine enthusiasm for his subject and could transmit that enthusiasm to us students. Thank you for a great video.
I am always amazed how seemingly insignificant events have such profound legal and historical implications.
For want of a nail the shoe was lost.
For want of a shoe the horse was lost.
For want of a horse the rider was lost.
For want of a rider the message was lost.
For want of a message the battle was lost.
For want of a battle the kingdom was lost.
And all for the want of a horseshoe nail.
I can't remember the title but there is a episode where during the test firing of 2 different naval gun prototypes in the late 1850's. One of the guns exploded killing or injuring several bystanders. One of which was the Secretary of Defense/War? Not sure what his exact title was but if he had lived it would have changed the course of American presidential politics and may have averted the Civil War. ugh I guess i'll have to go find it now
@@jasonscottjenkins The USS Princeton was on a pleasure cruise in the Potomac River 2/28/1844 when the Captain fired off a large cannon, which exploded, killing, among others, Thomas Gilmer (Sec. of War) and Abel Upshur (Sec. of State). Upshur had negotiated a deal to annex and admit Texas as a slave state, but his death put off the deal. His boss, John Tyler, lost the election and James Polk took over, instigating the invasion of Mexico and the annexation of the entire American Southwest.
I am surprised at how little I know of this time-frame.
Keep up the excellent videos!
I don’t ever think I heard about this conflict and I love history.
Once again another wonderful and accurate account of a little known piece of history, thank you THG! Also, I would like to thank you, again, for your recommendation of MagellanTv. I signed up for MagellanTv after I saw your first video suggesting the service. After having it now for several weeks I can honestly say that they have an excellent selection of documentaries and many different genres. It's easy to search for a documentary by using the in app search engine and inputting a term or subject that you would like to see a documentary based on. The quality is excellent. I would really like to see MagellanTv add older documentaries from the 50s to 70s to their offerings and that is my only "complaint". Thank you THG!
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Mr. History Guy, loving all the stories and great content! Could you do a video on the Texas City, Grand Camp explosion of 1947? I’ve always thought that was an undertold story that has been forgotten over time. Keep up the great work my friend!
The precedent set by that court decision answers a question that has plagued me for many years. Thank you History guy!
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Pirates, the ultimate condiment to any narrative.
Those darned piratical outposts...
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Whoa! I was enjoying this, of course. And agreeing that it was worth remembering. But then you talked about that court case that set the precedent we use even today for the use of military! You are quite right. Not only should this not be forgotten, but really needs to be taught in schools. I never knew there was an actual case that had decided that.
Many very old cases set the precedents for what we do today.
Most interpretations of laws are very old or well established by judicial precedents.
This is known as the Rule of Law.
The Constitution did not so much create The Law as build a framework to form a government that can write laws under the Rule of Law.
Many early court cases in the US were decided by judicial precedent of English court decisions made before the revolution. This is called common law.
One of the reasons Louisiana is different it originally used the French court precedents for its state courts.
@@shawnr771 Wasn't really sure how to respond. I feel so stupid not knowing about that one case from early American History. I'll work to educate myself more.
Anyway, I've heard that Ohio is important in the making of national laws. Can you provide more information on that?
@@PelenTan Cant really elaborate on Ohio.
Other than what could be googled.
@@shawnr771 Really? You seemed to know all about how the Constitution and law works when you responded to my comment. I figured you would know the details of that as well. Oh well. Maybe the @TheHistoryGuy will be able to do an episode on it. As it's definitely a bit of "history" that deserves to be remembered.
@@PelenTan I have study and read alot about the Constitution and the founding fathers.
I am not an expert I understand the very basics. There are some very nuanced ideas in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.
Hindsight being 20/20 the idea that slavery was allowed even after declaring all men to be equal is mind boggling to me.
That was different time and just as we judge the past so will our decendents judge us through their moral and social lenses of tomorrow.
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As a Costa Rican I deeply appreciated all the series of events that culminated in the war against Walker and the filibuster in 1856.
Because our independence fro Spain in 1821 was such almost a comical event the struggle against Walker brought up the sense of "Patria" ( motherland ) to Costa Rica.
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What an amazing story, thanks to the pirates involvement it was a good story too.
LOL
Thanks for all your work History Guy
Just saw the reminder to be respectful of others opinions as per Community’s Guidelines. Another outstanding point
That last minute of the video really shows how a (sadly) long forgotten event in American history still affects the USA and the rest of the world today. Excellent episode. I signed up for Magellan too-looks pretty good.
I have a bit of history that has all the elements you like...it’s the story of RMS Empress of Ireland, A luxury liner built in 1906. Accidentally sank in 1914 at the mouth of the Saint Lawrence river two years after the Titanic tragedy. Sustained a larger loss of life and the shipwreck can be accessed as at Low tide is just over the maximum recreational scuba diving depth. Its largely unknown because it was knocked off of the front pages by the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand in Sarajevo. My apologies if you’ve already done the story. I appreciate your time and enjoy your work thank you so much
In 2014 a Chinese businessman recommenced a colonial era proposal for a 270klm Grand Nicaraguan Canal. Significant construction never occurred and the project was abandoned in 2017. The deadline for construction to begin was 14th June 2019
Are you from Nicaragua?
I met a fellow last year who never read books and believed history which was written in books to be bunk! I was completely taken aback. How can we remember the history of the human race when it's members can be so flippant to the deeds of those who came long before us ?
As small as these events may seem to us in this day and age, I am regularly surprised by connections found between events of today and those of yesterday. Thank you for not letting these Historic bits be forgotten.....
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Loved this episode for the political insight today in your tale of the court case that provided president for the use of unilateral use Military Power (and cover)by a sitting President for whatever uses of this power he/she deems necessary, given the circumstances at any given time. Well Done for your insight !
Superb. Love these short dives into obscure history.
I have read a lot of American history and I had never heard of this incident. Thank you for covering this “forgotten” history.👍
Yet another excellent video. I suggest a video on the history of bow ties and how to tie them for obvious reasons.
Is there a history story behind bow ties?
Please, please, please make a shirt that says “After all, doesn’t every good story involve pirates?” My kids and I LOVE your channel and we LOVE it when you say that line! We listen for it in every story, whether it takes place on land or sea) and cheer when you say it! Thank you for the great work. Keep it up! You’ve got a family of fans in Utah!
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You are one of my favorite channels.
I’ve noticed with the really long documentaries it’s hard to remember everything. Yours are just right! 🤩
Magellan TV.... hmmmm... what the History Channel USED TO BE ... except on steroids! Ha ha ha! Going to check it out, thx!
Thanks for bringing back history in an educational and entertaining manor.
Your channel solidifies that that when someone enjoys history they can produce content that keeps history alive while producing revenue for the creative producing it.
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This is the reason I love this channel, smallish events with large outcomes. Also good coverage of history from Australia, my home.
Great information! It is interesting that an almost forgotten act would have ramifications decades later. Thanks for sharing this.
Thanks for another great video! Maybe you could look into doing ones on Clyde Pangborn, Rocky Gause, and Butch O Hare. Maybe one on how airports got their (sometime not obvious) 3-letter codes--GEG for Spokane WA, for example. Thanks again!
Now, that piece of history is very valuable to know. And it may be used within the next few days. Spot on and very timely, Sir.
so this is what set that precedent! trivia: a couple years ago reuters-ipsos conducted an international poll, asking "what poses the single greatest threat to world peace?" a huge majority of respondents gave the answer "the United States".
That's because they fear us. Goood! Keeps them from acting up.
Great piece, I love to learn about things I would normally not encountered. Thanks
My wife's uncle served aboard a U.S. Navy barge, the APL-15, in WWII. His service on this craft began during the recapture of the Mariana Islands, specifically Guam. If you have any historical information about the APL-15 I'd like to learn about what you have. What makes this particularly interesting is, from what I can learn, the APL-15 remains an active U.S. Navy vessel today. Seventy five years is a long time in service, there can't be too many U..S. Navy vessels with such a longevity. I very much enjoy your snippets of history, thank you for your efforts. Larry Westin, Tehachapi, California
I hated History class in school. Thanks for making history interesting and entertaining
The Bulwer in question, Henry Bulwer, was the elder brother of Edward Bulwer-Lytton who wrote such lines as "It was a dark and stormy night" and "the pen is mightier than the sword."
There is an award called the Bulwer-Lytton Prize given annually for the worst prose of the year.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulwer-Lytton_Fiction_Contest
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@The History Guy: A suggestion, tell about the USN shelling the town of Angoon on Admiralty Island in Alaska in January of 1901. The residents were left on the beech as they burned their houses and supplies. While working there for ADF&G a person on my crew told me that his grandfather told him that his earliest memories were of that occurrence.
Thank you for your research and effort! These type of obscure stories are so interesting, it is difficult to stop watching your channel.
Just wanted you to know that I have appreciated your videos.
Hey History Guy, the great narrative ability you possess. You make the Bubonic Plague an interesting place to visit! Just visit I'm not trying to stay any longer than I have to!
The Mosquito coast. This was also the name of a movie with Harrison Ford. Good movie as I remember.
Sounds like it is in Vermont. :)
I have been into the area called "Mosquito Coast" and it is aptly named. There are many t shirts from those areas proclaiming the Mosquito or noseeums as the national bird.
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Have stated it before, this gentleman would be perfect for the CBS Sunday Morning show.
Precisely!
What an interesting piece of history. Keep up the good work.
Absolutely love your channel. A suggestion for one of your shows, the Donnelly clan from the Lucan township in Ontario Canada. Their murder in 1880 is a compelling story.
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I'm the great grandchild of a marine who fought against Sandino in the Banana Wars of the 30s. Turns out he was from WV and I'm now an immigrant to the USA.
Thank you for your superb work. Would you please create a segment about the Ottoman Empire with two episodes. One about the end of the Byzantine Empire and the fall of Constantinople and another about war with Greece following WW1 with the atrocities at Smyrna. I enjoy every one of your productions.
Another unforgettable piece of forgotten history. Your method of teaching history beats the way it was taught in the nineteen sixties. With all of the cold numbers, such as the year that Humpty Dumpty fell of the wall, made it another math class.
Again, thank you to you and your dear wife, as it is a little known fact that behind every successful man, there is a good woman who helps to guide him with a broom. ;-)
In such a resort was also the presence of William Walker, and what was left of the Texas Falange.
I added Magellan tv, and wow thank you!
Also I recommended looking into the Dynamic Kernal experiment that historically went to well. Took place in Tecumseh, Michigan back in the 40's You can find a film about it on you tube, just search for it. It involved Henry Ford in last 5 or 6 years of his life and it truly is history that deserves to be remembered. Many people including my father spoke often of it, and all with great pride.
All reference in finding are about growing wheat and tithing. Is that correct?
@@tedcarl5382 thank you! yes it is. But results were amazing. The experiment was very successful to say the least. There is footage on youtube, someone put the Film about it there, I believe it was 1947.
Love this channel! Mrs. History Guy is a wonderful writer too!
Because, of course, all good stories involve pirates!
I wait for that to be said in every video. Lol
There actually aren't pirates in every episode. But it is surprising how often they figure in.
@@TheHistoryGuyChannel Yes thair is because i watch every episode HAHAHAHA keep up the great work.
Thank you for all yours and your wife's hard work.
Thanks bro ! Another excellent piece of content. Please post a shako from The Citadel behind your left shoulder ! Huahhh. Sound off for equipment check !
Great tidbit of history & love the tie!
This is incomplete without mentioning the Monroe Doctrine.
Please do an episode about Admiral Bird if possible, Thanks for all the great videos!
Great stuff, as usual! Thanks for putting this event's importance into the context of today's behavior of our executive branch of government, regarding being able to respond promptly to current events to which Congress would not be able to react in a timely manner.
Excellent. Will you do an episode on William Walker?
I have enjoyed, learned and understood the rationale, in the context of all of your "Five Minute" shows. You give great depth and substance to them. I thank you very much!
This was a great 👍🏼 one! Thank you!!
Great video.... thank you!
What was the case you referenced in the latter half of the video? Relating to War Powers. Sounded like Durant v. Hollons? Please correct me. Thank you. :) Love your channel and your choice to highlight forgotten history.
Micheal Whitehead Durand v Hollins: law.resource.org/pub/us/case/reporter/F.Cas/0008.f.cas/0008.f.cas.0111.2.pdf
When in doubt, drop bombs. I've got to remember that.
So glad this was settled in 1854. Today it would cause a riot the likes we would not want to see. Thank you for bringing History alive to us once again. Always good to have a pirate in a story! Imagine another State located so far away!
@Ed Glunz - I haven't checked the distances, but I was thinking it may be as distant as Alaska is from the 48 contiguous states.
@@shawngilliland243 glad you brought that up, it seems your tight. Just imagine that foothold.
President Pierce: "no extreme act would have been requisite had not the people themselves...." I love that use of requisite; very elegant.
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Nicely done as usual!
You touched on tje dispute between the Nicaragua versus Panama canal transit. More detail into that dispute (including the U.S. postage stamp showing the "smoking volcano" in Nicaragua when the volcano had long been dormant) would be a good topic. Thanks. Keep at it.
I’d love to hear more of William Walker and the Fillabusterers. One of his lieutenants (Fry) commanded my G-Grandfather’s unit (13th Alabama) during the Civil War and because of his experience, they were at the front of most of the battles of the ANV. Including taking their position at the Angle at Gettysburg on July 3.
Good episode, thank you. A great read about the US Navy during the "filibuster" period is "Warship Under Sail" by Lorraine McConaghy, about the USS Decatur's Pacific cruises.
Thanks for the tip about Magellan TV, I'm totally burned out on Amazon and Netflix