just discovered your channel through nomadstar, and the Lord knows how underrated you are, keep up the amazing work, hoping the best for you and your channel, you've gained a new subscriber
Hey, from one small(er) historical / geopolitical RUclipsr to another, I really liked the video and just subscribed! Aside from a bit of media interest a few months back, the conflict in the Western Sahara - not even mentioning the history behind it - has largely been overlooked; so, it’s always neat to see it get some coverage that merges both aspects. Also, congrats on hitting 1K!
Thanks for the video, as a Moroccan in favor of democracy and sovereignty of all people across the world I am glad this video helped inform my views! I hope the people of the Western Sahara will get to choose their future without the suppression of the Moroccan state.
As an Austrian of Moroccan descent, I was very interested in this video and (like your other videos) it turned out great. Let's just hope that this conflict will end on a conference table were both sides can, for lack of a better term, talk out their differences and come to a fair compromise, rather than it ending on the battlefield or as a way for the US to make another conflict "easier" to resolve.
If you're of Moroccan descent, I hope you do a decent research on this matter, this video is full of misinformation though it's informative overall,but very biased
Here's what i wrote to this dude: " Very biased and contains tons of misinformation, although it is informative to some extent! I invite to retake a look at what you had said, and more importantly to visit Morocco's western Sahara and see the repression you're talking about! Spolier alert: There's none! And those who were in Guerguarat are militants using children and women and performo a blockade against Moroccan trucks carrying goods to Mauritania, according to the UN general secretary Antonio Goterres, and you can read the Minurso's reports! And you can see that the region with the highest percentage of voting in Morocco's last election was WS! There had never been a nation called SADR or Western Sahara! It had all been Morocco's territory before the Spanish took it in 1884, and the International court of Justice ruled that there were indeed legal ties between WS and the Sultan of Morocco, but it doesn't amount to Sovereignty since, there's no sovereignty without people's support! And Morocco didn't wait for WS to get independent then annex it, that's a big cap! I dunno where did you get that from! The formation of Polisario was 1973 by Moroccans like El figuigui(which means belong to Figuig, a town in the northeast Morocco) until some of them started having a will to get independent! And the formation of SADR or the independence of SADR is in 1976, while Morocco started annexation of its former territory (western Sahara) in 1975 with the green March! And since you're an Arab you should know that the word Sahrawi means belong to the desert, so in fact even the term they use to differentiate themselves from Moroccans is vague! "
As an American (of German descent; musical chairs): Morocco was the first state to recognize our independence, so we will always do what we can for them.
As an arab sahrawi guy, i loved your video explaining about the conflict without being biased and not attracting ultranationalist’s losers wether be sahrawi’s or moroccan’s, the art is amazing too You are a legend however i wished you add more details to it, for example to get in depth with the sand war between morocco and algeria and also the zemla intifada etc etc
The moroccans did not try and open a road to Mauritania, the road already existed, and it wasn’t blocked by civilians as you said, but it was blocked by Polisario Militants who came from Tinduf, Algeria and illegaly blocked a civilan commercial road. Another mistake is Morocco didnt wait for Spain to leave in order to try and decolonize the Sahara. The region was added as a territory awaiting decolonization by request of Morocco in 1963. Morocco also waged war against Spain AND France in 1958-59 in order to decolonize it, but lost the war. Another mistake: In 1982 Morocco controled all the big cities of WS, including Dakhla, not just the area you showed. The area you showed was the one protected by the first wall, not the one only one that was controled by Morocco, who also controled cities outside the wall. You conveniently didnt talk about the role of Algeria in this conflict, the country that essentially controls the polisario as a pawn in its regional conflict with Morocco. You’re obviously pro-polisario (or rather anti-moroccan) and Im sorry to say there are at least 5-6 big factual mistakes in your video. As a Sahrawi, I’m very proud to belong to the country of Morocco. This week, more than 70% of sahrawis participatd in the regional and legislative elections. Sahrawis in Tindouf never voted for a polisario leader since 1973. Potential great video ruined by bias. Too bad
Since 1973 the Saharawis didn't have the opportunity to vote for Polisario leaders. The only reason why Morocco would object to independence as an option in a referendum would be because they're scared of loosing it. They could have and should have simply pushed for a referendum back in 1975, with the option of a) independence, b) becoming part of Morocco, c) becoming part of Algeria, d) becoming part of Mauritania or e) spliting/dividing Western Sahara between those countries.
You tell em, so many people just side with the polisario because they see Morocco as the bug oppressive boogie man without hearing the actual story from both sides, yeah we may have fucked up at some things but I'm currently leaving and moving between Sahara cities, I've never seen anyone claim they belonged to the Sahrawi republic , people literally claim being Moroccans and proudly show it off. Algerian government, some hippie activists and some uneducated westerners overlook what the people in Sahara real feel and claim because all they see is those polisario militia who claim to be "the real people"... Shucks, I'm tired of outsiders sticking their nose in this stuff
Jaafar tout ce que tu dis est faut tu parles comme un colonialiste avec des mensonges et la propagande ''laissez l'ONU régler ce problème dans le cadre de la loi arrêtez de mettre les battons dans les roues de la MINURSO 'et tout ira bien in challah pour tout le monde '''
1) This video failed to mention that ties existed between Morocco and the desert tribes, according to the court. The video shows a document that was cut to comply with the RUclipsr's bias. 2) Speaking of the right to self-determination, a court composed of colonial powers who spent decades (sometimes centuries) stealing African countries' resources won't offer such right to the people of Catalonia in Spain after the majority voted for independence. 3) On purpose, colonial powers wanted to leave such conflicts to make it hard for African countries to focus on economic growth. Please read about the Rwandan genocide. It's a perfect example. 4) A Sahrawi is not an ethnic group. It's an Arabic word that means someone who lives in the desert. If a Sahrawi state should exist, it must span across all the African desert (that includes parts of all North African countries) as well as the Gulf countries. 5) you mentioned Berbers when speaking about the composition of the so-called Sahrawis. The Polisario front is a racist group, especially towards anything Berber or "Amazigh". Countless videos show how they despise the Amazigh people, and they call them "chli7at". 6) The country Polisario wants to make is a pure "Arab" country. "Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic". There's no recognition of the Amazigh component in there, and as I mentioned, there are countless videos of these people insulting the real indigenous people of North Africa, including its desert, the Amazigh. 7) Morocco is a welcoming country; Arabs and Amazigh lived in peace for centuries. 8) The USA didn't turn its back on "Sahrawis". The US always supported the autonomy plan suggested by Morocco. Obama, Clinton, and Bush were always for the Moroccan plan. "The United States has made clear that Morocco's autonomy plan is serious, realistic, and credible, and that it represents a potential approach that could satisfy the aspirations of the people in Western Sahara to run their own affairs in peace and dignity". Trump just took a little step forward. obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2013/11/22/joint-statement-united-states-america-and-kingdom-morocco 9) Morocco and Isreal always had good ties. Moreover, almost 1 million Moroccan Jews live today in Israel. Morocco still supports a two-state solution, Israel and Palestine. 10) Polisario no longer has access to the sea. In November 2020, Morocco pushed the sand wall to the Mauritanian border after Polisario members closed the road between Morocco and Mauritania; they were not peaceful protesters. 11) What you call freed territories are buffer zones full of mines that morocco left on purpose to destroy any Polisario member that shows up. Pushing the buffer zone to Algerian borders might trigger a war with Algeria, and that's a scenario Morocco is trying to avoid because Moroccans and Algerians remain brothers, and we share a lot in common. 12) Without the help of Algeria who spent more than 500 billion dollars on Polisario, the latter will disappear. They pay Polisario salaries and buy them weapons and host their members within its territory. It's like a county within another country. Algerian officials, "a military junta", think Algeria will only become a regional power by weakening Morocco. They also have a deep desire for access to the Atlantic, and they can only achieve that by endorsing the independence of the "Sahrawi State" and make it their puppet state to isolate Morocco. 13) countless Polisario members have returned to Morocco and they participate today in Moroccan elections. Morocco also has turned that desert into a prosperous area. 14) Try to do some research before making biased videos like this one. This video got a dislike.
Finally someone who said it. This video was pro-Polisario. The Sahara was always ours! Polisario is also recognised as a terrorist group by the United Nations! It explains much.
+1 hats off, way to respond to the separatist propaganda from a Palestinian biased and mad about Morocco/Israel recent diplomatic normalization. he's own country is an European made up entity of colonization sykes-picots agreements, no surprise he's defending countries and borders made by them.
1) Morrocco has more ties to Algeria, however we dont't see them reclaiming Algeria. 2) The Catalonia issue is completely different to the one in the WS, because: -There are no human rights violations in Catalonia. -The Catalan language and culture is promoted and protected in Spain, and this is paid with tax money from all Spaniards. - Catalonia has been a part of Spain since Spain was created, over 500 years ago. -Catalans are free to express their ideas about independence without fear from reprisals by the Spanish goverment. -Catalans are Spanish citizens with equal rights and responsibilities to the rest of Spaniards. -The result of the 2017 independence referendum was not applied because it was an unconstitutional, illegal, poorly organized and unprepeared referendum that did not follow international standards (people voting more than once, not enough time for everyone to vote, etc). Many Catalan politicinas themselves acknowledged it was merely a symbolic act. However, I do agree a binding referendum should be held in Catalonia as soon as possible to the issue can be solved once and for all. 3) What you said here is just stupid. European countries have already expressed their regret on colonisation, an each year they donate large quantities of money for development in many African countries (including Morrocco). 4) That meaning only exists in the Arabic language. In English, the Sahrawi are the people inhabiting the WS, so I'm afraid beace brocess used the correct meaning here. 5) Although I find this hard to believe, I'm not gonna deny it's truebecause I'm not a 100% expert on the Polisario's policy on the Amazigh. However, I'm gonna need some proof. 6) Again, I'm gonna need proof for this. I find it hard to belive since the WS is already an Arab region (with a little Berber influence), not Berbers hav lived there for centuries ever since they were Arabized when thei intermarried with the invading Arabs during the Arab expansions in the Middle Ages. It's difficult to imagine much racism against Berbers in a country with no Amazigh. 7) This is, in general, true. 8) This is also true. Still, shame on the US. 9) Morrocco and Israel have had a pretty good history of not getting along that much. 11) Morrocco and Algeria actually have pretty bad relations. And those freed terriotries are Polisario controlled and Sahrawi inhabited areas. 12) What you said here is mostly just absurd. 13) The first part is true. The scond one is not. The WS is now an unstable and politically tense region. 14) It's not at all biased.
The US recognition does not affect the political process at the UN, and it's not very contradictory to the solution of autonomy within Moroccan sovereignty, which the UN considered as credible and realistic.
It’s contradictory in one important way, in that whatever decision that is made on Western Sahara ought to be done w a referendum and the consent of the ppl living there. This also means that independence should be an option in such a referendum. If you think Morocco is such a great country and that you have treated the Saharawi in WS well then I don’t see why you would be against a referendum. Surely they would choose autonomy within Morocco then no?
@@beacebrocess The referendum attempts already failed, and things are even more complicated now since the population of the region has grown and diversified, autonomy is the only realistic solution that allows self determination for the inhabitants, Morocco is ready to accept any form autonomy agreed upon, the only red line for Morocco is its sovereignty over the region. Because we simply aren't gonna let our southern provinces become some Banana republic that is a total puppet of the Algerian military regime are we?
@@beacebrocess referendum isn't an option and failed since polisario terrorists want to control the vote list and include only their sympathizers who are not even native of the southern Morocco but people from tindouf, Mali and Mauritania, the UN never mentionned referendum again since 2007 and speaks about realistic solution referring to autonomy under Moroccan sovreignty, it's a made conflict, Polisario is an Algerian proxy militia made by Gaddafi and the fruit of socialist communist era to fight monarchies.
@@eternalm3859 As much as I would like a referendum to happen this is right. If Western Sahara becomes independent it probably don't be better off, it would become a military dictatorship. The worst possible thing for Morocco would be to be surrounded by enemied on all sides.
@@beacebrocess i don't want to be in another country i'll stay morocco god bless Dakhla a beautiful city in the moroccan sahara. i'm sure people who live in moroccan sahara will be angry if brahim ghali become their chief
Sahrawis mean people who live in desert so it's not a special name for any specific nation's people it apply to everyone who lives in a desert in Morocco or Algeria or libya or Saudi Arabia or China it's not matter Second : Western Sahara is UN name for wad dahab w sa9ya lhamra and it's not a country name Third since you u say there is a country named Republic of Sahara which mean Republic of desert I call all people in word to form a kingdom of mountain then a republic of jungles And a plains republic this is meanless 😂
you do not get the points, sahraouis are nomads they arz nationless they are just a bunch of tribes living in morocco algeria and chad. It is not about name but about the people.
@@wikiacount8697 Nope we know who are the people who live there since thousands of years before even Rome come they weren't arabs they were berbers Berbers Tribes of zinata Bni hassan aka RASD aren't from here they just come and they xant take my ancestors land go f there selfs in arabian peninsula desert next to there prophet Muhammad lol
I appreciate the Kraut influence and learned details that I did not know. Great content over-all, but I still believe you misunderstood certain things or at least you see things from a different mentality or a different lens. I'd be willing to debate you or offer counter-arguments to your case if you're willing to accept criticism
Damn missed the premier, another wonderful video as always and about a great topic. The parallels to the I/P conflict are fascinating and it's great they you managed to touch the more recent events such as the Abraham accords and Algeria cutting ties with Morocco. One thing I will say, is that while the Abraham Accords did escalate the conflict in wester Sahara, they didn't make the I/P more violent and certainly aren't the cause of the recent escalations in Gaza. I doubt they had any affect at all in that regard aside from stopping annexation. The conflict has been in pretty much the same situation since the end of the 2013-2014 negotiations.
I didn’t mean for it to come across as if I was saying the Abraham accords made the I/P conflict more violent that would require a separate analysis. I meant to say that it didn’t have any effect on curbing the violence the I/P conflict. Hope that resolves things for u
you see the problem with people in youtube and the internet as a whole they only see the small picture, "give ws independece they want to be alone" but when you go and remove a part of their country they will say "NO THEY CANT HAVE INDEPENDENCE!" see what i mean?
Stop refeering to sahrawis by palestinian flag+ algerien cross. that flag doesnt represent sahrawis it represents the polisario front in mather of facts the moroccan flag represents sahrawis like he represents rifains amazighs and arabs. we all are one nation we are not an athnetical country created by colonialism. sahrawis are legetimatly represented in the moroccan southern provinces thru the legislations that takes place every 5 years polisario front has no legitmacy of representing no one they are just a toy beetween algerian hands in their wishes of strategic supremacy over morocco wich will never NEVER NEVER EVER happen !
Great videos but some very small critic, colour the lines on the inside of the outer ring of countryballs for example at 11:32 the Palatine ball has a weird looking white thing other than that it's amazing
the key word is '' berlin conference 1884 '' AKA the European Scramble for Africa (Africa was divided by European invaders). Morocco is an old country and western Sahara is his territory.
@@fenecchilango918 NO mate! It's like you are arguing about Berlin after the end of WWII. You tell me Berlin is Soviet and I tell you it's also American, British and French, but the end of the day Berlin is historically German. Diocesis Hispaniarum was not SPANISH. It was a Roman COLONY that put Morocco and Spain together as an entity. The Romans also put Algeria, Tunisia and Libya under one entity called Diocese of Africa. The Modern European colonisation did the opposite: divide the divided. Morocco was divided and you can easily prove it: Tangiers as an international city Spain took the north and the south plus Ifni city. France took the middle and even the Germans wanted their cake in Morocco ( see Agadir crisis) but the French gave them Congo 😁 😁😁
@@tarrasteno ok lets rephrase your comment You said "Morocco is an old country and western Sahara is his territory" Therefore I can say "Spain is an old country and Morocco is his territory" or even say "Italy is an old country and Morocco is his territory" and I would be saying the truth cause Morocco was part of Diocesis Hispanium which was part of the Roman Empire. So let me ask you something, does that means that if a Moroccan wants to have its own country shouldn't have it just because it was part of another empire before? Also if you want to say "Berlin is German and not American, french, british or soviet" then you should know that that comparison wouldn't apply to the Western Sahara since ICJ said "The materials and information presented to it [the ICJ] do not establish any tie of territorial sovereignty between the territory of Western Sahara and the Kingdom of Morocco or the Mauritanian entity." Therefore is clear Western Sahara is not Spanish, nor Mauritanian, nor Moroccan.
@@fenecchilango918 Spain was a Roman colony and Morocco wasn't part of Spain. The Romans colonized Morocco and Spain and put them together. How is that difficult to understand. Do u know what '' Diocesis'' mean? it means '' a group of provinces". It's like Russian '' OBLAST''. Spain under Moroccan Almoravid / Almohad dynasty doesn't mean Spain is Moroccan. It only means Spain was a Moroccan colony. Now, if Western Sahara was a country ( just next to Morocco that had so many wars with the African Empires such Mali empire and Songhai empire and had even a slave army called Bukhari army), please Enlighten us what was the name of such a western sahara country and who were its leaders and their wars with Morocco or neighbours ! You don't need to be smart to understand,that Western Sahara is a colonial creation. It's appearance has to do with Spain reaching Africa and its wars with Morocco
@@tarrasteno you dont know what a colony is. Also medieval kingdom are not relevant in national determination unless your brain is rotten by propaganda
I am a Sahrawi, I was born Sahrawi and I am proud to be sahrawi, I just want to say that living in western sahara is really good, I think its a bit exaggerated when you said "living in the sahara is less free than any place in the world", Thank you for covering this BTW
This was really good! Nomadstar recommended the video and I’m really happy I took the time to watch it! Looking forward to seeing what you produce in the future, as well as checking your backlog!
@@TSGC16 It got the basics right but the bend toward Polisario is noticeable. It might be that PLO-Polisario solidarity. But the reality will always favor Morocco.
@@pablomesaperez9005more like Arabs Invaded Amazigh land and want to create an Arab republic in OUR LAND. And it’s not gonna happen. Proud Amazigh sahraoui here
@@soulm279 in your dreams. Or actually you already have a country within Algeria. You spent 50 years there anyway you should claim algerian citizenship haha
@@fou9selk280 This issue with Western Sahara is very similar to the Cypriot issue, how the people of the island want unity with Greece but aren't allowed to. What do you Moroccans think of that?
Is it just me or did you deliberately said barely anything about the algerians intermeddling a lot with the conflict???; And the sand wars wasn't just sand wars, those were legit lost territories of Morocco to Algeria, because France annexed those parts to Algeria after second world war, because france wanted those valuable territories and they knew they couldn't hold Morocco any longer and they were very very determined to keep Algeria as part of France.
There are many many manyyyy historical evidences that prove how large morocco was under different dynasties,i dont understand why its always framed as if morocco only existed as is and annexed the sahara that wasnt theirs to begin with, plus there are many documents that prove (البيعة) that the sahrawi people had with the royal families, just another example of history being seen only from colonization on ward, at least this video hinted at "the greater morocco" that did exist its not a myth or propaganda.
@@Procrastinatorshow are we stealing land? We are protecting it from Arab invaders who do not recognize us. They hate the Amazigh or anything to do with us and I’m saying this as a Moroccan with indigenous amazigh southern descent and I grew up in the south. Literally Sadr is the same thing as Israel wanting a land they are not indigenous to. They are Arabs not African and sadr literally stands for sahrawi Arab democratic republic. IN AN AMAZIGH LAND. And I will never support them. A group of racists and separatists just go watch how they speak about the Amazigh aka indigenous North African.
I live in sahra all who talk about this problem like morocco did not exist before the occupation the country history is long before that and it is the same loyal family if you for an answer then look before the occupation
Morocco didn’t invade us we are Moroccans, Morocco helped us escape Spain colonialism. Sadr hates us (indigenous north Africans) and doesn’t recognize us, it’s literally pan Arabist just from their flag 🇪🇭 and their name sadr which is sahrawi “Arab” democratic republic, in our land, AMAZIGH LAND, they hate anything to do with “Amazigh” “Berber” “African”. They aren’t Africans they will never get our land.
Yes of course, History begins at 1860, before that the land didn't belong to anyone. Oh wait it did, to Morocco. The following text was conveniently cut from the screenshot, a mere coincidence of course : "In reply to Question II, it expressed the opinion that the materials and information presented to it showed the existence, at the time of Spanish colonization, of legal ties of allegiance between the Sultan of Morocco and some of the tribes living in the territory of Western Sahara."
Go read the rest of that quote which emphasizes that these legal ties don’t supercede the right of self determination I actually mentioned the claim that the Moroccans made was based on a previous dynasty so even this claim that I cut from the screenshot for some nefarious reason is just wrong
@@beacebrocess you failed to mention it though. You are biased clearly. I give you 0/10 on being biased. I ll make it 1/10 just because the art is good.
@@beacebrocess Previous dynasty? Even the Alaouites (current dynasty) ruled over WS and parts of current Algeria and Mauritania... Take a look. de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Alaouite_dynasty_of_Morocco-en.sv
@@DeviLKM7 it's interesting that you aren't addressing my response to ur criticism which is that when you read the full verdict from the ICJ, the entire point of mentioning the previous legal ties is to emphasize that they didn't recognize them as valid. what you call bias I call getting rid of useless information. I wanted to give the audience a rundown of what the effect of the verdict was bc that's all that really matters. The video fully acknowledges that Morocco didn't agree w the ICJ. I admit maybe I wasn't very clear on the dynastic issu, but ur point abt the ICJ decision is just flat out wrong.
@@beacebrocess Yes, getting rid of information that doesn't fit your narrative. You could've at least keep the full text, it's not even that long, but then people will realize : hey, the land belonged to them merely a century ago, maybe it's not so crazy that they claim it. The ICJ decision was clear : maybe it belonged to you before, but now let the people decide. Which people? That's the question.
@@sahnithy hey, we can find a compromise, but for someone who doesn't even know the SADR is the name of the government There, they are not to be trusted
This conflict was created by the French and Spaniards to keep the south Mediterranean week and divided .Divide and rule this is the type of classic conflict created by ex colonial powers to keep the colonies week and dependent.
Coming from a moroccan view point.. Its just depressing seeing our Muslim brothers fight each other instead of uniting as Islam has put it for us to fight the western pressure of driving us out of Islam for their own benefit Its always been like this, and it will only get worse.. The money spent on propaganda and military is so great, if it was spent on research, development and welfare, north Africa could easily compete for world dominance.. Yet here we are..
There is no such thing as western or eastern sahara, it's a geography stretching in all North africa to Middle east, before Spanish-French colonization and the split of Moroccan pre colonial lands during Berlin conference 1884 and the partition of Africa there is only one state nation in the region it's Morocco, the rest are Ottoman territories.
No, do u realize those people aren’t indigenous? And they hate the amazigh they make fun of us and they hate us. They do not deserve our land and sadr doesn’t recognize something called “Berber” or “amazigh” they only recognize Arabs. The same thing Israel is doing to Arabs in middle east
It's weird seeing the occupation of Western Sahara never get any of the attention the West Bank gets especially when one considers that Morocco has gone above and beyond anything Israeli settlement could dream up. But it might be a matter of African on African violence not getting attention.
@@anti5080 Actually incorrect, the region in dispute has been recognized by the UN as not legally belonging to Israel, in fact Morocco's illegal occupation and annexation of Western Sahara legally makes it the last colony in Africa, using history to justify illegal land grabs is what the Nazis and now Putin does so you're in really bad company trying the but "much Pre-colonialism irredentism".
@@Justanothaguy The alawi dynasty have been ruling the Sahara since the beginning of their rule. They only gave up on it when facist white spain invaded it. The royal family of Morocco has even ties to the Sahara themselves. The majority of sahrawis are living in Morocco and it’s sahara domain. The Polisario is nothing but a western puppet group made to destabilize the region and now it doesn’t prove useful so western countries are supporting moroccos rightful claim to the sahara.
What I still don't quite understand is Algeria's position. Do they truly support the Polisario cause or are they just in opposition to Morocco? And why?
sigma beace will bless us with his content once again
HOLY SHIT, HOW DO YOU MAKE VIDEOS ABOUT THE BEST TOPICS ALL THE TIME, BEACE.
ABSOLUTE LEGEND
Oh yeah, it’s all coming together.
Congratulations on earning 400 subs in a month! You deserve it!
Damn, you really did just gain over 250 subscribers in a few hours.
Happy to see your channel grow, beace! Keep it up!
just discovered your channel through nomadstar, and the Lord knows how underrated you are, keep up the amazing work, hoping the best for you and your channel, you've gained a new subscriber
Welcome aboard!
Chances are I will forget about this premiere, and then be sad when I missed it
the real premiere will be in your heart dw
Great video! Sending love to Western Sahara, from Morocco 🇪🇭❤️🇲🇦
Hey, from one small(er) historical / geopolitical RUclipsr to another, I really liked the video and just subscribed! Aside from a bit of media interest a few months back, the conflict in the Western Sahara - not even mentioning the history behind it - has largely been overlooked; so, it’s always neat to see it get some coverage that merges both aspects.
Also, congrats on hitting 1K!
Thanks man
damn this is really good, you’re gonna get big man
PROUD OF YOU BEACE 👏
thanks man!
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Do more collars together! You guys make such a great team!
Getting on the ground floor of this channel. Can't wait to learn more!
Thanks for the video, as a Moroccan in favor of democracy and sovereignty of all people across the world I am glad this video helped inform my views!
I hope the people of the Western Sahara will get to choose their future without the suppression of the Moroccan state.
بياع
Jesus what a khargali
From El Dakhla im a Moroccan Sahrawi and proud of my Country!
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@@mr.defence8353 :)
Same :D
Chek d asusi machi d asehrawi 🤨 taqbilt nk tgat Ait Baamrane?
Interesting video! I can't wait for whatever you make next.
An excellent video on a topic I knew little on. Thank you.
Ive seen many and i mean MANY country balls channels who have a small amount of subscribers. But the content you put out is SOOooOOOo underrated
Love the channel. Comment for the algorithm. ✌️Can't wait to see what you can do!
amazing video hope to see more of your work in the future
I will continue to create no worries
As an Austrian of Moroccan descent, I was very interested in this video and (like your other videos) it turned out great. Let's just hope that this conflict will end on a conference table were both sides can, for lack of a better term, talk out their differences and come to a fair compromise, rather than it ending on the battlefield or as a way for the US to make another conflict "easier" to resolve.
If you're of Moroccan descent, I hope you do a decent research on this matter, this video is full of misinformation though it's informative overall,but very biased
Here's what i wrote to this dude: "
Very biased and contains tons of misinformation, although it is informative to some extent! I invite to retake a look at what you had said, and more importantly to visit Morocco's western Sahara and see the repression you're talking about! Spolier alert: There's none!
And those who were in Guerguarat are militants using children and women and performo a blockade against Moroccan trucks carrying goods to Mauritania, according to the UN general secretary Antonio Goterres, and you can read the Minurso's reports! And you can see that the region with the highest percentage of voting in Morocco's last election was WS!
There had never been a nation called SADR or Western Sahara! It had all been Morocco's territory before the Spanish took it in 1884, and the International court of Justice ruled that there were indeed legal ties between WS and the Sultan of Morocco, but it doesn't amount to Sovereignty since, there's no sovereignty without people's support! And Morocco didn't wait for WS to get independent then annex it, that's a big cap! I dunno where did you get that from! The formation of Polisario was 1973 by Moroccans like El figuigui(which means belong to Figuig, a town in the northeast Morocco) until some of them started having a will to get independent! And the formation of SADR or the independence of SADR is in 1976, while Morocco started annexation of its former territory (western Sahara) in 1975 with the green March!
And since you're an Arab you should know that the word Sahrawi means belong to the desert, so in fact even the term they use to differentiate themselves from Moroccans is vague! "
As an American (of German descent; musical chairs):
Morocco was the first state to recognize our independence, so we will always do what we can for them.
@@videogames1926 that sounds a lot like what Israelis say when they get criticized for the occupation
Two parts are Spain and Sahara, no? 😂
As an arab sahrawi guy, i loved your video explaining about the conflict without being biased and not attracting ultranationalist’s losers wether be sahrawi’s or moroccan’s, the art is amazing too
You are a legend
however i wished you add more details to it, for example to get in depth with the sand war between morocco and algeria and also the zemla intifada etc etc
As a Moroccan, I appreciate your neutral point of view......but can't get over the name of the Intifada hhhhhhhhhh
@@Saidxplore when they stole the Palestinian flag, they were not ashamed to steal the Palestinian vocabulary
@@tarrasteno it's pan Arabic anyone can use those colours like Jordan Kuwait uae
@@gamingwitheagleofficial8477 oh yeah, Kenya also😁
@@Saidxplore They try to make the conflict look like Palestine and Israel when it's nothing alike. No surprise they stole the Palestinian flag...
Holy damn this is some good content
The moroccans did not try and open a road to Mauritania, the road already existed, and it wasn’t blocked by civilians as you said, but it was blocked by Polisario Militants who came from Tinduf, Algeria and illegaly blocked a civilan commercial road.
Another mistake is Morocco didnt wait for Spain to leave in order to try and decolonize the Sahara. The region was added as a territory awaiting decolonization by request of Morocco in 1963.
Morocco also waged war against Spain AND France in 1958-59 in order to decolonize it, but lost the war.
Another mistake: In 1982 Morocco controled all the big cities of WS, including Dakhla, not just the area you showed. The area you showed was the one protected by the first wall, not the one only one that was controled by Morocco, who also controled cities outside the wall.
You conveniently didnt talk about the role of Algeria in this conflict, the country that essentially controls the polisario as a pawn in its regional conflict with Morocco.
You’re obviously pro-polisario (or rather anti-moroccan) and Im sorry to say there are at least 5-6 big factual mistakes in your video.
As a Sahrawi, I’m very proud to belong to the country of Morocco. This week, more than 70% of sahrawis participatd in the regional and legislative elections. Sahrawis in Tindouf never voted for a polisario leader since 1973.
Potential great video ruined by bias. Too bad
Since 1973 the Saharawis didn't have the opportunity to vote for Polisario leaders. The only reason why Morocco would object to independence as an option in a referendum would be because they're scared of loosing it. They could have and should have simply pushed for a referendum back in 1975, with the option of a) independence, b) becoming part of Morocco, c) becoming part of Algeria, d) becoming part of Mauritania or e) spliting/dividing Western Sahara between those countries.
70%? The legal statement of morocco says 56% in layoun, also Which year you count?
You tell em, so many people just side with the polisario because they see Morocco as the bug oppressive boogie man without hearing the actual story from both sides, yeah we may have fucked up at some things but I'm currently leaving and moving between Sahara cities, I've never seen anyone claim they belonged to the Sahrawi republic , people literally claim being Moroccans and proudly show it off. Algerian government, some hippie activists and some uneducated westerners overlook what the people in Sahara real feel and claim because all they see is those polisario militia who claim to be "the real people"... Shucks, I'm tired of outsiders sticking their nose in this stuff
Jaafar tout ce que tu dis est faut tu parles comme un colonialiste avec des mensonges et la propagande ''laissez l'ONU régler ce problème dans le cadre de la loi arrêtez de mettre les battons dans les roues de la MINURSO 'et tout ira bien in challah pour tout le monde '''
1) This video failed to mention that ties existed between Morocco and the desert tribes, according to the court. The video shows a document that was cut to comply with the RUclipsr's bias.
2) Speaking of the right to self-determination, a court composed of colonial powers who spent decades (sometimes centuries) stealing African countries' resources won't offer such right to the people of Catalonia in Spain after the majority voted for independence.
3) On purpose, colonial powers wanted to leave such conflicts to make it hard for African countries to focus on economic growth. Please read about the Rwandan genocide. It's a perfect example.
4) A Sahrawi is not an ethnic group. It's an Arabic word that means someone who lives in the desert. If a Sahrawi state should exist, it must span across all the African desert (that includes parts of all North African countries) as well as the Gulf countries.
5) you mentioned Berbers when speaking about the composition of the so-called Sahrawis. The Polisario front is a racist group, especially towards anything Berber or "Amazigh". Countless videos show how they despise the Amazigh people, and they call them "chli7at".
6) The country Polisario wants to make is a pure "Arab" country. "Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic". There's no recognition of the Amazigh component in there, and as I mentioned, there are countless videos of these people insulting the real indigenous people of North Africa, including its desert, the Amazigh.
7) Morocco is a welcoming country; Arabs and Amazigh lived in peace for centuries.
8) The USA didn't turn its back on "Sahrawis". The US always supported the autonomy plan suggested by Morocco. Obama, Clinton, and Bush were always for the Moroccan plan. "The United States has made clear that Morocco's autonomy plan is serious, realistic, and credible, and that it represents a potential approach that could satisfy the aspirations of the people in Western Sahara to run their own affairs in peace and dignity". Trump just took a little step forward. obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2013/11/22/joint-statement-united-states-america-and-kingdom-morocco
9) Morocco and Isreal always had good ties. Moreover, almost 1 million Moroccan Jews live today in Israel. Morocco still supports a two-state solution, Israel and Palestine.
10) Polisario no longer has access to the sea. In November 2020, Morocco pushed the sand wall to the Mauritanian border after Polisario members closed the road between Morocco and Mauritania; they were not peaceful protesters.
11) What you call freed territories are buffer zones full of mines that morocco left on purpose to destroy any Polisario member that shows up. Pushing the buffer zone to Algerian borders might trigger a war with Algeria, and that's a scenario Morocco is trying to avoid because Moroccans and Algerians remain brothers, and we share a lot in common.
12) Without the help of Algeria who spent more than 500 billion dollars on Polisario, the latter will disappear. They pay Polisario salaries and buy them weapons and host their members within its territory. It's like a county within another country. Algerian officials, "a military junta", think Algeria will only become a regional power by weakening Morocco. They also have a deep desire for access to the Atlantic, and they can only achieve that by endorsing the independence of the "Sahrawi State" and make it their puppet state to isolate Morocco.
13) countless Polisario members have returned to Morocco and they participate today in Moroccan elections. Morocco also has turned that desert into a prosperous area.
14) Try to do some research before making biased videos like this one. This video got a dislike.
I gotta say Your comment was way more informative and better explains actual history than this whole video
Finally someone who said it. This video was pro-Polisario. The Sahara was always ours! Polisario is also recognised as a terrorist group by the United Nations! It explains much.
Best comment ever , i hope whoever make this video can read this .
+1 hats off, way to respond to the separatist propaganda from a Palestinian biased and mad about Morocco/Israel recent diplomatic normalization. he's own country is an European made up entity of colonization sykes-picots agreements, no surprise he's defending countries and borders made by them.
1) Morrocco has more ties to Algeria, however we dont't see them reclaiming Algeria.
2) The Catalonia issue is completely different to the one in the WS, because:
-There are no human rights violations in Catalonia.
-The Catalan language and culture is promoted and protected in Spain, and this is paid with tax money from all Spaniards.
- Catalonia has been a part of Spain since Spain was created, over 500 years ago.
-Catalans are free to express their ideas about independence without fear from reprisals by the Spanish goverment.
-Catalans are Spanish citizens with equal rights and responsibilities to the rest of Spaniards.
-The result of the 2017 independence referendum was not applied because it was an unconstitutional, illegal, poorly organized and unprepeared referendum that did not follow international standards (people voting more than once, not enough time for everyone to vote, etc). Many Catalan politicinas themselves acknowledged it was merely a symbolic act.
However, I do agree a binding referendum should be held in Catalonia as soon as possible to the issue can be solved once and for all.
3) What you said here is just stupid. European countries have already expressed their regret on colonisation, an each year they donate large quantities of money for development in many African countries (including Morrocco).
4) That meaning only exists in the Arabic language. In English, the Sahrawi are the people inhabiting the WS, so I'm afraid beace brocess used the correct meaning here.
5) Although I find this hard to believe, I'm not gonna deny it's truebecause I'm not a 100% expert on the Polisario's policy on the Amazigh. However, I'm gonna need some proof.
6) Again, I'm gonna need proof for this. I find it hard to belive since the WS is already an Arab region (with a little Berber influence), not Berbers hav lived there for centuries ever since they were Arabized when thei intermarried with the invading Arabs during the Arab expansions in the Middle Ages. It's difficult to imagine much racism against Berbers in a country with no Amazigh.
7) This is, in general, true.
8) This is also true. Still, shame on the US.
9) Morrocco and Israel have had a pretty good history of not getting along that much.
11) Morrocco and Algeria actually have pretty bad relations. And those freed terriotries are Polisario controlled and Sahrawi inhabited areas.
12) What you said here is mostly just absurd.
13) The first part is true. The scond one is not. The WS is now an unstable and politically tense region.
14) It's not at all biased.
The US recognition does not affect the political process at the UN, and it's not very contradictory to the solution of autonomy within Moroccan sovereignty, which the UN considered as credible and realistic.
It’s contradictory in one important way, in that whatever decision that is made on Western Sahara ought to be done w a referendum and the consent of the ppl living there. This also means that independence should be an option in such a referendum. If you think Morocco is such a great country and that you have treated the Saharawi in WS well then I don’t see why you would be against a referendum. Surely they would choose autonomy within Morocco then no?
@@beacebrocess
The referendum attempts already failed, and things are even more complicated now since the population of the region has grown and diversified, autonomy is the only realistic solution that allows self determination for the inhabitants, Morocco is ready to accept any form autonomy agreed upon, the only red line for Morocco is its sovereignty over the region. Because we simply aren't gonna let our southern provinces become some Banana republic that is a total puppet of the Algerian military regime are we?
@@beacebrocess referendum isn't an option and failed since polisario terrorists want to control the vote list and include only their sympathizers who are not even native of the southern Morocco but people from tindouf, Mali and Mauritania, the UN never mentionned referendum again since 2007 and speaks about realistic solution referring to autonomy under Moroccan sovreignty, it's a made conflict, Polisario is an Algerian proxy militia made by Gaddafi and the fruit of socialist communist era to fight monarchies.
@@eternalm3859 As much as I would like a referendum to happen this is right. If Western Sahara becomes independent it probably don't be better off, it would become a military dictatorship. The worst possible thing for Morocco would be to be surrounded by enemied on all sides.
@@beacebrocess i don't want to be in another country i'll stay morocco god bless Dakhla a beautiful city in the moroccan sahara. i'm sure people who live in moroccan sahara will be angry if brahim ghali become their chief
Sahrawia here and I’m a proud Moroccan🥰🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦
Long live Morocco 🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦
We took Sahara and now USA recognized it as moroccan
Sahrawis mean people who live in desert so it's not a special name for any specific nation's people it apply to everyone who lives in a desert in Morocco or Algeria or libya or Saudi Arabia or China it's not matter
Second : Western Sahara is UN name for wad dahab w sa9ya lhamra and it's not a country name
Third since you u say there is a country named Republic of Sahara which mean Republic of desert I call all people in word to form a kingdom of mountain then a republic of jungles And a plains republic
this is meanless 😂
Paraguay means great river in Guaraní, should the Republic of Paraguay be lest considered a country just because its name is tautological?
you do not get the points, sahraouis are nomads they arz nationless they are just a bunch of tribes living in morocco algeria and chad.
It is not about name but about the people.
@@wikiacount8697
Nope we know who are the people who live there since thousands of years before even Rome come they weren't arabs they were berbers
Berbers Tribes of zinata
Bni hassan aka RASD aren't from here they just come and they xant take my ancestors land go f there selfs in arabian peninsula desert next to there prophet Muhammad lol
Thanks for the information very useful❤
3:03 This was never an official state policy.
I appreciate the Kraut influence and learned details that I did not know. Great content over-all, but I still believe you misunderstood certain things or at least you see things from a different mentality or a different lens. I'd be willing to debate you or offer counter-arguments to your case if you're willing to
accept criticism
I’m glad I discovered you on discord :)
This was really good, loved the video!!
You are going to blow up!!!!!! You got this beace
Great video ✊🏾
Damn missed the premier, another wonderful video as always and about a great topic. The parallels to the I/P conflict are fascinating and it's great they you managed to touch the more recent events such as the Abraham accords and Algeria cutting ties with Morocco. One thing I will say, is that while the Abraham Accords did escalate the conflict in wester Sahara, they didn't make the I/P more violent and certainly aren't the cause of the recent escalations in Gaza. I doubt they had any affect at all in that regard aside from stopping annexation. The conflict has been in pretty much the same situation since the end of the 2013-2014 negotiations.
I didn’t mean for it to come across as if I was saying the Abraham accords made the I/P conflict more violent that would require a separate analysis. I meant to say that it didn’t have any effect on curbing the violence the I/P conflict. Hope that resolves things for u
This is a great video!
:O got heart o-o
you see the problem with people in youtube and the internet as a whole they only see the small picture, "give ws independece they want to be alone" but when you go and remove a part of their country they will say "NO THEY CANT HAVE INDEPENDENCE!" see what i mean?
Stop refeering to sahrawis by palestinian flag+ algerien cross. that flag doesnt represent sahrawis it represents the polisario front in mather of facts the moroccan flag represents sahrawis like he represents rifains amazighs and arabs. we all are one nation we are not an athnetical country created by colonialism. sahrawis are legetimatly represented in the moroccan southern provinces thru the legislations that takes place every 5 years polisario front has no legitmacy of representing no one they are just a toy beetween algerian hands in their wishes of strategic supremacy over morocco wich will never NEVER NEVER EVER happen !
I have a question, are you a sahrawi?
@@thedeadwarrior1828 Probably some Moroccan in Fez
@@houseplant1016 im moroccan from fez lol
@@thedeadwarrior1828 Ouch well that's akward and painful...
The real Western Sahara was the friends we made along the way
thinking of doing an undergrad thesis on disputed borders, this video was amazing!!
MOROCCO WILL DEFEND IT TERRITORY FOR EVER 🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦
Great videos but some very small critic, colour the lines on the inside of the outer ring of countryballs for example at 11:32 the Palatine ball has a weird looking white thing other than that it's amazing
Great illustrations
the key word is '' berlin conference 1884 '' AKA the European Scramble for Africa (Africa was divided by European invaders). Morocco is an old country and western Sahara is his territory.
Then we could said that Morocco is Spanish cause it was part of Diocesis Hispaniarum, and therefore it would be Roman territory too.
@@fenecchilango918 NO mate! It's like you are arguing about Berlin after the end of WWII. You tell me Berlin is Soviet and I tell you it's also American, British and French, but the end of the day Berlin is historically German. Diocesis Hispaniarum was not SPANISH. It was a Roman COLONY that put Morocco and Spain together as an entity. The Romans also put Algeria, Tunisia and Libya under one entity called Diocese of Africa. The Modern European colonisation did the opposite: divide the divided. Morocco was divided and you can easily prove it: Tangiers as an international city Spain took the north and the south plus Ifni city. France took the middle and even the Germans wanted their cake in Morocco ( see Agadir crisis) but the French gave them Congo 😁 😁😁
@@tarrasteno ok lets rephrase your comment
You said "Morocco is an old country and western Sahara is his territory"
Therefore I can say "Spain is an old country and Morocco is his territory" or even say "Italy is an old country and Morocco is his territory" and I would be saying the truth cause Morocco was part of Diocesis Hispanium which was part of the Roman Empire.
So let me ask you something, does that means that if a Moroccan wants to have its own country shouldn't have it just because it was part of another empire before?
Also if you want to say "Berlin is German and not American, french, british or soviet" then you should know that that comparison wouldn't apply to the Western Sahara since ICJ said "The materials and information presented to it [the ICJ] do not establish any tie of territorial sovereignty between the territory of Western Sahara and the Kingdom of Morocco or the Mauritanian entity." Therefore is clear Western Sahara is not Spanish, nor Mauritanian, nor Moroccan.
@@fenecchilango918 Spain was a Roman colony and Morocco wasn't part of Spain. The Romans colonized Morocco and Spain and put them together. How is that difficult to understand. Do u know what '' Diocesis'' mean? it means '' a group of provinces". It's like Russian '' OBLAST''. Spain under Moroccan Almoravid / Almohad dynasty doesn't mean Spain is Moroccan. It only means Spain was a Moroccan colony. Now, if Western Sahara was a country ( just next to Morocco that had so many wars with the African Empires such Mali empire and Songhai empire and had even a slave army called Bukhari army), please Enlighten us what was the name of such a western sahara country and who were its leaders and their wars with Morocco or neighbours ! You don't need to be smart to understand,that Western Sahara is a colonial creation. It's appearance has to do with Spain reaching Africa and its wars with Morocco
@@tarrasteno you dont know what a colony is. Also medieval kingdom are not relevant in national determination unless your brain is rotten by propaganda
This is pretty cool, I hope that you get better.
I am a Sahrawi, I was born Sahrawi and I am proud to be sahrawi, I just want to say that living in western sahara is really good, I think its a bit exaggerated when you said "living in the sahara is less free than any place in the world", Thank you for covering this BTW
I live in moroccan Sahara let's meet and Fight like anime gimm your Location.
I am also sahrawia and I’m a proud Moroccan 🇲🇦
The guargarat episode was before the abraham accords
This was really good! Nomadstar recommended the video and I’m really happy I took the time to watch it! Looking forward to seeing what you produce in the future, as well as checking your backlog!
Thank you so much for your support!!!
Sadly it was quite a pro-Polisario biased video
@@TSGC16 It got the basics right but the bend toward Polisario is noticeable. It might be that PLO-Polisario solidarity. But the reality will always favor Morocco.
Great vid not much people doing what your doing so m8 take your time
Bro's trying his best to show morocco as "the villain"
Reality its what it is, morocco invaded territory of people who didn't want to be moroccan or stay under an antagonistic king
@@pablomesaperez9005more like Arabs Invaded Amazigh land and want to create an Arab republic in OUR LAND. And it’s not gonna happen. Proud Amazigh sahraoui here
Its not that dangerous here and there's a big moroccan city there called laayoune.
I support Morocco on this. Clearly Western Sahara is a Spanish colonial construct.
Just found your channel and I got to say, this is some top tier content. You should definetly have more subs
Yknow what I happen to agree w u lol, thanks so much for the compliment
Yaaay Go Morocco 🇲🇦👌
Glory to an independent Western Sahara!
@@soulm279 in your dreams. Or actually you already have a country within Algeria. You spent 50 years there anyway you should claim algerian citizenship haha
@@soulm279 yes
@@fou9selk280 This issue with Western Sahara is very similar to the Cypriot issue, how the people of the island want unity with Greece but aren't allowed to. What do you Moroccans think of that?
Is it just me or did you deliberately said barely anything about the algerians intermeddling a lot with the conflict???; And the sand wars wasn't just sand wars, those were legit lost territories of Morocco to Algeria, because France annexed those parts to Algeria after second world war, because france wanted those valuable territories and they knew they couldn't hold Morocco any longer and they were very very determined to keep Algeria as part of France.
Commenting for the algorithm
14:57 « he quit » that killed me 😂 (a moroccan sahrawi here !)
There are many many manyyyy historical evidences that prove how large morocco was under different dynasties,i dont understand why its always framed as if morocco only existed as is and annexed the sahara that wasnt theirs to begin with, plus there are many documents that prove (البيعة) that the sahrawi people had with the royal families, just another example of history being seen only from colonization on ward, at least this video hinted at "the greater morocco" that did exist its not a myth or propaganda.
imagine stealing land based on history... sounds like israel
we don't care
@@Procrastinatorshow are we stealing land? We are protecting it from Arab invaders who do not recognize us. They hate the Amazigh or anything to do with us and I’m saying this as a Moroccan with indigenous amazigh southern descent and I grew up in the south. Literally Sadr is the same thing as Israel wanting a land they are not indigenous to. They are Arabs not African and sadr literally stands for sahrawi Arab democratic republic. IN AN AMAZIGH LAND. And I will never support them. A group of racists and separatists just go watch how they speak about the Amazigh aka indigenous North African.
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I live in sahra all who talk about this problem like morocco did not exist before the occupation the country history is long before that and it is the same loyal family if you for an answer then look before the occupation
Indeed brother they try to extinguish our truthful claim but we will never give up.
Thanks! 👊
Great video
Morocco just broke the treaty and illegally invaded western Sahara, sign of greed
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Morocco didn’t invade us we are Moroccans, Morocco helped us escape Spain colonialism. Sadr hates us (indigenous north Africans) and doesn’t recognize us, it’s literally pan Arabist just from their flag 🇪🇭 and their name sadr which is sahrawi “Arab” democratic republic, in our land, AMAZIGH LAND, they hate anything to do with “Amazigh” “Berber” “African”. They aren’t Africans they will never get our land.
sahara its Moroccan and sahara still Moroccan hermano
Good bless Western Sahara, we will get freedom 🇪🇭❤️
So your sahrawian?
Talk Darija. 🔫
If you are man enough. I would say, come and get it. Think not 😁
@@capitanosthebest6614 🇲🇦 🔫🇪🇭🇩🇿🇺🇸
I hope this video lives up to your expectations!
YeS
Amogus
I bet it will, you are an amazing artist and great story teller, and also defiantly consider doing another collab with State of the World
First State of the World needs to release Heartbreak 3 then I'd consider it
@@beacebrocess good choice
Damn That's a pretty good video!
It explains the conflict pretty well, I'm a Moroccan (Although born in Sahrawi Annexed Land by morocco).
Keep it up!
Yes of course, History begins at 1860, before that the land didn't belong to anyone. Oh wait it did, to Morocco.
The following text was conveniently cut from the screenshot, a mere coincidence of course : "In reply to Question II, it expressed the opinion that the materials and information presented to it showed the existence, at the time of Spanish colonization, of legal ties of allegiance between the Sultan of Morocco and some of the tribes living in the territory of Western Sahara."
Go read the rest of that quote which emphasizes that these legal ties don’t supercede the right of self determination I actually mentioned the claim that the Moroccans made was based on a previous dynasty so even this claim that I cut from the screenshot for some nefarious reason is just wrong
@@beacebrocess you failed to mention it though. You are biased clearly. I give you 0/10 on being biased. I ll make it 1/10 just because the art is good.
@@beacebrocess Previous dynasty? Even the Alaouites (current dynasty) ruled over WS and parts of current Algeria and Mauritania... Take a look.
de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Alaouite_dynasty_of_Morocco-en.sv
@@DeviLKM7 it's interesting that you aren't addressing my response to ur criticism which is that when you read the full verdict from the ICJ, the entire point of mentioning the previous legal ties is to emphasize that they didn't recognize them as valid. what you call bias I call getting rid of useless information. I wanted to give the audience a rundown of what the effect of the verdict was bc that's all that really matters. The video fully acknowledges that Morocco didn't agree w the ICJ. I admit maybe I wasn't very clear on the dynastic issu, but ur point abt the ICJ decision is just flat out wrong.
@@beacebrocess Yes, getting rid of information that doesn't fit your narrative. You could've at least keep the full text, it's not even that long, but then people will realize : hey, the land belonged to them merely a century ago, maybe it's not so crazy that they claim it.
The ICJ decision was clear : maybe it belonged to you before, but now let the people decide. Which people? That's the question.
A sacrifice to the algorithm
I appreciate your sacrifice
Can we get heartache 2 for next video? Thank you!
please beacebrocess give us heartache 2
I third this, we want heartache 2
@@StateoftheWorld we really need heartache 3 😔😔😔
@@thelunaticcultist5157 Jesus you just got heartache 2 be patient
@@StateoftheWorld heartache 3 confirmed for smash when?
The western sahara is my favorite country ❤❤❤🇪🇭🇪🇭🇪🇭🇪🇭
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This video smells algerian oil distributed to mercenaries
Guess it's my lucky day, I was trying research about this piece of land.
I’m glad you found this video! Feel free to check out the sources in the description to further your research
@@beacebrocess thanks
Well guess what its called now moroccan sahara
Free Western Sahara 🇪🇭
Free from separatists, LEAVE US ALONE
@@sahnithy hey, we can find a compromise, but for someone who doesn't even know the SADR is the name of the government There, they are not to be trusted
Morocco is the one trying to take Western Sahara stop playing victim
The blood is in eastern sahara. You got confused between east and west.
Unless if you are being paid by the algerian army that's a different story
Aren't all Polesario in the same vain though?
It wasnt civilians that blocked guergarat but militias plus i still and always will believe that western sahara is moroccan
This conflict was created by the French and Spaniards to keep the south Mediterranean week and divided .Divide and rule this is the type of classic conflict created by ex colonial powers to keep the colonies week and dependent.
Coming from a moroccan view point..
Its just depressing seeing our Muslim brothers fight each other instead of uniting as Islam has put it for us to fight the western pressure of driving us out of Islam for their own benefit
Its always been like this, and it will only get worse..
The money spent on propaganda and military is so great, if it was spent on research, development and welfare, north Africa could easily compete for world dominance.. Yet here we are..
The presidennt of Polisario saharawis is moroccan
Yeah but it's a traitor
I don’t think so
@@macarenabarcelona9002 no it is
@@ghalilahloumimiseconde3771 no the old one was moroccan, died in 2016, but he still belonged to a sahrawi tribe
No you are liar 🤥🤥
How do you not have 401K subs?
Very interesting
A full video of the attempt to separate Moroccan lands from each other
Pov this video in 2025:Sorry this age is restricted
What the hell the arts so GOOD
*look at icon of the channel*
"Hmmm....I doubt any bias will be in this video..."
Thanks for this fact bro
There is no western sahara there is just Morocco
There is no kosovo there is just Serbia
In western Sahar There is no Polisario Milish , The Polisario In Algeria In Tindof , Moroccan Sahara Is SAFE
Western sahara is for morroco 🇩🇿 ❤ 🇲🇦
99% will not believe
@@user-iz2tq3dx5d no one cares about your opinion, westoid
@@user-iz2tq3dx5d Israel supports western sahara as Moroccan
Thank you
علاه؟
Accurate.
There is no such thing as western or eastern sahara, it's a geography stretching in all North africa to Middle east, before Spanish-French colonization and the split of Moroccan pre colonial lands during Berlin conference 1884 and the partition of Africa there is only one state nation in the region it's Morocco, the rest are Ottoman territories.
At some point when Spain gets rid of Sanches it will take action on the matter
If a morrocan says in the comments he's sahrawi morrocan he's lying he's simply a colonizer
FREE WESTERN SAHARA 🇪🇭🇪🇭
i love it!
the beggening:why did western sahara become palestina?
No, do u realize those people aren’t indigenous? And they hate the amazigh they make fun of us and they hate us. They do not deserve our land and sadr doesn’t recognize something called “Berber” or “amazigh” they only recognize Arabs. The same thing Israel is doing to Arabs in middle east
Amazing video! Sahara libre! 🇪🇭🇪🇭🇪🇭
We don’t want independence we are sahrawis proud Moroccans 🇲🇦
It's weird seeing the occupation of Western Sahara never get any of the attention the West Bank gets especially when one considers that Morocco has gone above and beyond anything Israeli settlement could dream up. But it might be a matter of African on African violence not getting attention.
Because Morocco has actually historical evidence of being the rightful owner of the Sahara.
@@al-batal Literally every country occupying territory not recognized as its own makes that claim, try again chief.
@@Justanothaguy yeah but it is part of morocco cuz it was part of pre colonialism unlike isreal whi say they lived their 3000 y ago
@@anti5080 Actually incorrect, the region in dispute has been recognized by the UN as not legally belonging to Israel, in fact Morocco's illegal occupation and annexation of Western Sahara legally makes it the last colony in Africa, using history to justify illegal land grabs is what the Nazis and now Putin does so you're in really bad company trying the but "much Pre-colonialism irredentism".
@@Justanothaguy The alawi dynasty have been ruling the Sahara since the beginning of their rule. They only gave up on it when facist white spain invaded it. The royal family of Morocco has even ties to the Sahara themselves. The majority of sahrawis are living in Morocco and it’s sahara domain. The Polisario is nothing but a western puppet group made to destabilize the region and now it doesn’t prove useful so western countries are supporting moroccos rightful claim to the sahara.
Viva el sahara occidental libre 🇪🇭🇪🇭🇪🇭🇪🇭🇪🇭🇪🇭🇪🇭
exactly, its morocco
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What I still don't quite understand is Algeria's position.
Do they truly support the Polisario cause or are they just in opposition to Morocco? And why?