Arlene on so many occasions was so genial and complimentary to the Mystery Guest. Her kind words for Maria Schell were illustrative of just how warm and friendly she consistently tended to be.
@@patbest7057 I agree. At that time, 1959, Marilyn Monroe "look-alikes" were plentiful. I guess the same thing happened in the 30's because of Jean Harlow.
One thing I know for sure about first guest Helen P. Mann, Bennett would NOT have been able to contain himself! He is always so hysterically smitten with the pretty girls. It's a shame he was away this episode.
I’ve noticed how Arlene tries to cover up her snarky attitude toward the very attractive women guests... she’s not as nice as they portray her... interesting...
@@suecastillo4056 I have seen the snarky attitude as well. You will on occasion catch sweet Dorothy. The entire panel is noticeably condescending at times. Overall they are marvelous but certain circumstances bring out a not so nice side in the men as well as the women panelists.
I loved Maria Schell's mannerisms while sitting at the desk beside Mr Daly. She had such beautiful facial expressions that exuded humility and delight. In reading about her on Wikipedia, it was sad to learn that she had died, although by her choice, in seclusion, but in a beautiful part of the world, the Austrian Alps. I do find it interesting that many actors who were exceedingly well-known in "Their Own Time," were often found living in seclusion--with a number of them becoming "Unknowns," at the end of their respective lives. Fame and Fortune are fleeting, aren't they?
These people are all performing. She is an admitted gold digger who cheated on her first husband, who she admitted she didn’t marry for love, with her second husband, Martin Gabel, who was conveniently a producer whose parents conveniently owned a jewelry store in Philly Acting and collecting diamonds were her true loves.
I Met Helen Mann She lived down the street from us she passed away this year :/ She was a very private person Its interesting what the power of Google can uncover and damn she was pretty back then
@@OTAlucard well lol how long ago was that they broke up quite a while ago, I wouldn't be surprised if he said that because they have not seen each other in a long time. Also there are two Helen's in the area maybe it was a different one they both get mixed up quite often. But She is my grandmother and I know more than what random person said. No offense but I know she is alive and who ever told you that was lying or it is a different Helen.
What? She had a very long acting career from 1948 until 1996! It 's true she left Hollywood at the beginning of the sixties because she married , had a Come-back on Broadway (theater) 1976 and then returned once again to Germany!She became very sick in the nineties and died 2002!
Mrs. Mann had them completely fooled. She was a good looking blonde woman thus she couldn't possibly have any kind of occupation that you have to have brains to do. Wrong!!! Thanks for the video.
But had the panelists noticed how she addressed John (she called him John), they would have gotten a clue as to she might be doing something important..
Arlene really chatted up the woman with the sewer pipe company during her exit. That's something rare to see with the non-celebrity contestants up to this point.
faintsignal ~ This is just my thought/guess. I read your comment before I watched the show. Therefore, I was curious to see the lady you speak of and, as she walked out wearing the larger unfitted outfit, my first thought was, I bet Arlene will ask her if she’s pregnant or how far along she is. But, then, after seeing them actually converse at the end, they appeared to be talking in a more comedic sense about her line of work??? They all seemed to be getting a kick out of the fact that the particular pipe she manufactures and sells is not metal???
Interesting (?) that John did not ask the first Helen if she were married until the panel asked. Wishful thinking on his part maybe? He did, however, revert to form and ask the second Helen if she were married. Now, since whe was so obviously pregnant--expecting, in the parlance of the day--she would have been 'married' even if she wasn't!
Maria Schell was great in The Hanging Tree with Gary Cooper, Karl Malden & George C. Scott (his first film). She was the sister of Maximillian Schell. If Mrs Mann "tracks missiles at Cape Canaveral.... there is NO PRODUCT. Daly gets this aspect of the game wrong so often !!
Maria's career was relatively limited, but I always thought she was talented, beautiful and basically a rather cool lady. She says to Yul Brynner, "You've come to beat me? I might like that"
+bobinobaker I think the german Version of WML is a bit stiffer than this original one. I loved this show as a kid but thanks to youtube and ofcourse to Gary for the posibility to see the original. Yes it's true in Germany the MG wasn't allowed to talk at all. The moderator speakes for them and the panel get the information of the sex in advance. But if I think of all the fun when MG's tries to hide their voices.... we missed a lot in this shows. btw I think Maria Schell was a MG in Germany to. Besides the alternations in the MG section there are other alternations in the hole game, the panel was'nt allowed to speak to each other really, not even a call for a conference was a possibility, and the moderator was very strict about it. It was a rather distinguished sort of game but it had equal amount of funny speaking like " I'm right in assuming that.... or that not... something like that to produce more "yes" answers. Some of them are still generally known by many people of my generation. (I could write this also in german, but I think most people here would prefere english to follow the conversation)
Missiles @ Cape Canaveral: I would not have guessed that if I saw her on the streets in 1959 that this is what she did. Good for her. That's a very important and serious life or death job! She stumped the panel. Sew Pipe Sales: She stumped the panel. She was self-employed; that was a good job for 1959 and still is today. Maria Schell looks young here. I remember her as Van-da from Superman: The Movie. She's the sister of Maximillian Schell. Arlene has a habit of guessing these people who have pictures in release of about to be or about to be made. Flea Powder Maker: Ran out of time but I also think, like John, that Dorothy would have gotten it.
As to the flea powder guy, this is the second time in as many days that I've seen John haul down the time limit on Dorothy when she was about to get it. For example there was more than a minute left here after John shut the game down. I claim unfair to labor!
Maria Schell was in hospital with lung infection and died on a heart attack! She also had Dementia! Maria(and brother Maximilian) was one of the biggest stars ever here in Austria! We called her "Seelchen" (Soul)! Nice to see her as an mystery guest!
Caitlin Fitzpatrick - They did look stunning. I am amazed that the panelists keep referring to grown women as girls. I guess that must have been the way the world worked in those days
@@shirleyrombough8173 Despite what some claim today, the word wasn't always used as a put-down. In my mother's generation, born in the Twenties and Thirties, bright, well-educated upper middle class women often called themselves and each other "girls." On one episode of What's My Line, Arlene says "I'm a girl!"
I really enjoyed seeing Maria Schell as I haven't seen her very often. She's such a beautiful woman--it's hard to believe she's Maximilian Schell's older sister, and I've never gotten over the impression she made on me as a much younger man in her role as Grushka in Brothers Karamazov. It's always been a big disappointment to me that she didn't make very many movies, at least not many in the U.S.
The great Maria Schell made many good movies in germany and played Theatre in all classical roles. Maybe american Poole can see in RUclips some german movies of Maria Schell Witz english subtitels. she was a big star like Marlene Dietrich and Hildegard Knef ( Neff).
During this period, Bob Cummings was dealing with an addiction to methamphetamine, although this was kept from the public. You could see in his eyes that something was slightly "off" about him.
Having watched 50-100 of these in the last few months, I can safely say that the question "is there a product connected with what you do?" is almost always misleading and has great potential to lead the panel in the wrong direction. I find on the times they do, they often get too focused on irrelevant details like "can a woman use it as much as a man?" when it's not that kind of thing or service at all... I love this show, but sometimes feel John Daly misleads the panel a little... they're often very, very, very good at what they do and I've found they get the line more often than not (especially with the BC, DK, and AF trio)... ...however it seems that when they're spot on, they're SUPERB, but when they're not, they really get off track. I give a few examples like the episode before this one (chronologically, via the playlist) about the woman who dived with the horse, she seemed ready to say "no" to a lot of questions I'd think would be a "yes".... same with the guy who was a termite exterminator a few episodes back, early question was "is there a product related to your line?" and John Daly was quick to say "yes". Oh? Really? What product would that be, exactly.... termites?? I mean, I can see a service being related, but product? Close I can figure would be the TERMITE SPRAY maybe.... but anyway, it pretty much made the panel go off on the wrong track the whole time, figuring the guy was more about selling something than providing a service. Yet another example is this episode's "Tracks missles" again, the product connection question comes up, which I never see as a good thing the majority of the time. :p Sometimes it works, but more often than not it just seems to throw a gear in the guessing. Sometimes I wish this show had a "yes", "no" and "irrelevant", because oftentimes the panel will get hung up on something that isn't relevant at all, like the one with the assistant to the Duchess of Windsor a few episodes ago. "Could I benefit from your services?" "Could both guys and girls use you?" "Could kids use you?" All technically "yes"', but just seemingly more importance is placed on them than there should be... sometimes it's frustrating because I wish John would divert more irrelevant lines of questioning to get them focused back on what is or is not important. Of course, that's all part of the game, and oftentimes part of the fun. Obviously John wants the contestants to win and make money, but also, I think that laughs and entertainment are played more for the purpose than the actual game or guessing is. John sometimes seems to get bored easily and some episodes he seems to reach this point easier/faster...and when that happens and he gives his infamous "I'll give you all just one more minute:" line, I usually they're doomed by then. :p In any case, aside from this novel of a comment, I love this show, love the regular panel, love most the guests and it's truly a treasure. A treasure that can still be (entertainingly) frustrating sometimes. :p
Whoa! John went full-on, hardass schoolmarm on Dorothy during the Maria Schell bit! This isn't the first time I've seen him get annoyed with her (and vice versa). Did they kind of hate each other in real life?
Bennett said Dorothy being a journalist first and a game show contestant second, snitched on the private lives of the panel. Mr Daley never trusted her.
Yes, that was a noticeable moment of friction but minor compared to the uncomfortable misunderstanding between John and Tony Randall in the Eva Marie Saint episode the previous September. John Daly, like all the panel on What's My Line, had a very full work schedule, his personal life was also bumpy at this period so I wouldn't be surprised if he exhibited some symptoms of irritability around this time.
I find it very annoying when they squeeze in a final guest after the celebrity. I would enjoy the panal having the time to have a full segment, but more often than not John has to call time.
The marvelous erudite use of language on this show reminds me of my younger years. There are very few "ums" or "ahhs" here and certainly no persistent use of "like" thrown in for no reason. English now, at least in the USA, seems more text-like and without imagination.
In Germany there was this show auch.Da but were not allowed to speak the celebrities . We know but the voice right away. It's silly to pretend you do not know it ...
John's line at the end of Mrs Mann segment could be deemed a litte risque yet total innocent at the time "If scientists looked like Mrs Mann that would make the Russians come..I know it's my mind
+mrpuniverse2 - Actually John didn't say that. What he said (If you listen carefully) is "If we had a few more scientists like that, we'd make those Russians HUM"
John was seriously remiss in giving the panel two 'no' answers regarding whether or not the sewer pipe material was mined or quarried. The material must be removed from the ground by mechanical means, hence, it must be said to be mined or quarried, or at least, dug out of the ground, which is essentially the same thing. I don't know what he or anyone else would call it.
I hadn't noticed the snideness you're referring to, but there was bad blood between John and Dorothy by this point. She had written a column revealing some backstage gossip and John never forgave her for it (according to Bennett Cerf in an interview). I always thought they did a wonderful job of covering up the iciness between them, but you seem to have caught on to it without even knowing the story-- so I guess maybe not!
What's My Line? I found this interesting interview with Bennett Cerf by Mike Wallace. I laughed at the commercial at the beginning. www.hrc.utexas.edu/multimedia/video/2008/wallace/cerf_bennett.html
What's My Line? I found it. "At that time there was a rumor current that Mike Wallace was going to replace John Daly as the head of ABC news. Some nasty people thought that this may have been part of the reason that John didn't want him--because he heard these rumors. Dorothy promptly called up the Journal American and gave them the story. Monday it was on the front page of the Journal American. John Daly never forgave her for this. He said, “I thought that we were a family during 'What's My Line?‘We've been doing it for years. What I said there was in confidence.” Dorothy said, “Not at all. I'm a reporter and that was a big story. I certainly wasn't going to get scooped on my own story. You see, it was on the front page.” John said, “Yes...because of this idea that I was maybe doing it out of personal jealousy.” He never forgave her." This makes the Mike Wallace interview that much sweeter.
I noticed that! Weird. Probably just a nervous "affectation", as I think most of the guests were not accustomed to being filmed, bright lights, live audience, etc. I love the "shock" between her beauty and her rocket-science profession.
In his regular tv show, his character was a bachelor who was a professional photographer of lovely models and flirting with them...I think he was going to his stage character that the audience knew well...much like if Alan Alda had become his character Hawkeye from MASH during an interview. Cummings was playing it for laughs.
Yes, for sure! That voice, sang beautifully too. Martin Gabel certainly was no Adonis, but he had great presence, energy, humour and professional accomplishments. Wicked attractive!
David arcudi how is he a jerk I just noticed his whole life seemed to be scholastic area so don't know how much real life he has lived know he looks eccentric long grey hair in 70s He may be nice man most importantly
Bob Cummings is not too hot, "working for profit organization or make a profit..." and the Touching.... hope the missile will be useful.... just the looks. From starts she tell she is French, she wanted to be found. Good time using ???
For some reason, the European actors Hollywood imported after WW2 had nothing like the pull of earlier ones such as Garbo, Chevalier, Dietrich, Lamarr or Boyer. Neither Maria Schell nor her brother Maximilian scored in English-speaking films. Rather as she appears here, she came over as a timid, drippy little mouse. Americans preferred more full-blooded gals, e.g. Loren.
I love the panelists and Daly. I watched them live on CBS as a child. However, in my maturity, and as someone who has studied regional accents professionally, the silliness of the accents, charming when I heard them as a child, grate on me now. Except for Bennett Cerf who's not on this edition, all of them have burnished their accents with a pretentiousness. Even Joplin, MO native Robert Cummings has strapped on several non-rhotic Rs for the occasion. Arlene Francis, especially, has modified her Boston accent so that it's impossible to tell where in the Boston area she's from. It's morphed into a overly ripe theatrical, mid-Atlantic accent. One would think she would drop it when she's not on the B'way stage. Daly, of course, has modified his Johannesburg/Boston accent as well. Cerf, on the other hand, has retained his Hell's Kitchen twang. Good for him! Indeed, he was the least pretentious of the regulars.
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Arlene on so many occasions was so genial and complimentary to the Mystery Guest. Her kind words for Maria Schell were illustrative of just how warm and friendly she consistently tended to be.
Arlene must have been the perfect party hostess. She would have been able to make every guest feel like they were the most important person there.
Galileocan g - Yes, I noticed that too. I liked Arlene for doing that.
Wow! Mrs. Mann is more beautiful than most mystery guests!
Very little difference from Mamie van Doren...
Must be only one who does not find Mrs Mann attractive Lady who sold aeroplanes very attractive Just my opinion
@@patbest7057 I agree. At that time, 1959, Marilyn Monroe "look-alikes" were plentiful. I guess the same thing happened in the 30's because of Jean Harlow.
Wonderful and rare appearance, the great german actress Maria Schell!
She came from Switzerland... :--))
Greetings from Germany
She was Swiss Austrian
I love the way that the Gentlemen bow when they walk in
Nearly 20 years later, Maria Schell would play the part of a Kryptonian scientist in the movie that made my classmate, Christopher Reeve, a star.
Maria .. so incredibly sweet.
One thing I know for sure about first guest Helen P. Mann, Bennett would NOT have been able to contain himself! He is always so hysterically smitten with the pretty girls. It's a shame he was away this episode.
I’ve noticed how Arlene tries to cover up her snarky attitude toward the very attractive women guests... she’s not as nice as they portray her... interesting...
Quite the contrary. I was glad not to have to put up with his repulsive lechery.
@@suecastillo4056 I have seen the snarky attitude as well. You will on occasion catch sweet Dorothy. The entire panel is noticeably condescending at times. Overall they are marvelous but certain circumstances bring out a not so nice side in the men as well as the women panelists.
@@kulturekritik9665 Perfectly said.
@@belindaalbright8798 “Sweet Dorothy”? She is the most real of all these phonies and gold diggers
What a wonderful panel game. Guests and panel members were charming and very polite. John Daly was an extremely erudite chairman.
Actually sounded like you had a cold, and seemed to be in a bad mood
I loved Maria Schell's mannerisms while sitting at the desk beside Mr Daly. She had such beautiful facial expressions that exuded humility and delight. In reading about her on Wikipedia, it was sad to learn that she had died, although by her choice, in seclusion, but in a beautiful part of the world, the Austrian Alps. I do find it interesting that many actors who were exceedingly well-known in "Their Own Time," were often found living in seclusion--with a number of them becoming "Unknowns," at the end of their respective lives. Fame and Fortune are fleeting, aren't they?
Arlene always extremely adorable n sweet love her to pieces
These people are all performing. She is an admitted gold digger who cheated on her first husband, who she admitted she didn’t marry for love, with her second husband, Martin Gabel, who was conveniently a producer whose parents conveniently owned a jewelry store in Philly Acting and collecting diamonds were her true loves.
Even when he’s not present, Cerf manages to give him self a complement
I Met Helen Mann She lived down the street from us she passed away this year :/
She was a very private person Its interesting what the power of Google can uncover and damn she was pretty back then
OTAlucard
What a beautiful lady !
@@jreklesstheyung4469 last I checked her husband told me she was dead. 🤔? And her two sons when I was buying stuff at the estate sale
She is my grandmother and she is alive and well.
@@OTAlucard well lol how long ago was that they broke up quite a while ago, I wouldn't be surprised if he said that because they have not seen each other in a long time. Also there are two Helen's in the area maybe it was a different one they both get mixed up quite often. But She is my grandmother and I know more than what random person said. No offense but I know she is alive and who ever told you that was lying or it is a different Helen.
I am 100% confident it is a different one, because they live very close to each other.
Marie Schell was a delightful and charming actress. Very sad that she didn’t have a longer acting career.
What? She had a very long acting career from 1948 until 1996! It 's true she left Hollywood at the beginning of the sixties because she married , had a Come-back on Broadway (theater) 1976 and then returned once again to Germany!She became very sick in the nineties and died 2002!
She not only appeared in the original Superman movie, but had a career revival on German television in the late 1980s.
I’ve not heard of Maria Schell but wow, she’s gorgeous! 😍😍😍
Mrs. Mann had them completely fooled. She was a good looking blonde woman thus she couldn't possibly have any kind of occupation that you have to have brains to do. Wrong!!! Thanks for the video.
Also deliberately staged, I suspect. She does a job of acting to fool the panel.
But had the panelists noticed how she addressed John (she called him John), they would have gotten a clue as to she might be doing something important..
Maria Shell was such a language professional..
Arlene really chatted up the woman with the sewer pipe company during her exit. That's something rare to see with the non-celebrity contestants up to this point.
faintsignal ~ This is just my thought/guess. I read your comment before I watched the show. Therefore, I was curious to see the lady you speak of and, as she walked out wearing the larger unfitted outfit, my first thought was, I bet Arlene will ask her if she’s pregnant or how far along she is. But, then, after seeing them actually converse at the end, they appeared to be talking in a more comedic sense about her line of work??? They all seemed to be getting a kick out of the fact that the particular pipe she manufactures and sells is not metal???
I think Arlene had some good "sewer pipe" jokes or remarks to make. Even Dorothy was giggling and laughing.
Greg,...most likely made from concrete.
@@dcasper8514 they can also be ceramic pipes.
Interesting (?) that John did not ask the first Helen if she were married until the panel asked. Wishful thinking on his part maybe?
He did, however, revert to form and ask the second Helen if she were married. Now, since whe was so obviously pregnant--expecting, in the parlance of the day--she would have been 'married' even if she wasn't!
was married, might be English
Maria Schell was great in The Hanging Tree with Gary Cooper, Karl Malden & George C. Scott (his first film). She was the sister of Maximillian Schell.
If Mrs Mann "tracks missiles at Cape Canaveral.... there is NO PRODUCT. Daly gets this aspect of the game wrong so often !!
Loved The Hanging Tree. She was brilliantly adorable, bumbling blindly amid the finest cast of Hollywood testosterone ever assembled, IMO.
@@alansorensen5903 You're Forgetting the Professionals 😐😎🙃
I never very heard of her nor have seen the Hanging Tree movie . Hope it's not a depressing story. None the less Maria seemed like a sweet person.
Maria's career was relatively limited, but I always thought she was talented, beautiful and basically a rather cool lady. She says to Yul Brynner, "You've come to beat me? I might like that"
Maria Schell felt bad that she wasn’t able to stump the panel and Arlene very graciously complimented her to make her feel better.
She looked jubilant that she was identified.
+bobinobaker
I think the german Version of WML is a bit stiffer than this original one. I loved this show as a kid but thanks to youtube and ofcourse to Gary for the posibility to see the original.
Yes it's true in Germany the MG wasn't allowed to talk at all. The moderator speakes for them and the panel get the information of the sex in advance. But if I think of all the fun when MG's tries to hide their voices.... we missed a lot in this shows.
btw I think Maria Schell was a MG in Germany to.
Besides the alternations in the MG section there are other alternations in the hole game, the panel was'nt allowed to speak to each other really, not even a call for a conference was a possibility, and the moderator was very strict about it.
It was a rather distinguished sort of game but it had equal amount of funny speaking like " I'm right in assuming that.... or that not... something like that to produce more "yes" answers. Some of them are still generally known by many people of my generation.
(I could write this also in german, but I think most people here would prefere english to follow the conversation)
Interesting! It's great to hear about the show as it was in other countries. Thank you.
Missiles @ Cape Canaveral: I would not have guessed that if I saw her on the streets in 1959 that this is what she did. Good for her. That's a very important and serious life or death job! She stumped the panel.
Sew Pipe Sales: She stumped the panel. She was self-employed; that was a good job for 1959 and still is today.
Maria Schell looks young here. I remember her as Van-da from Superman: The Movie. She's the sister of Maximillian Schell. Arlene has a habit of guessing these people who have pictures in release of about to be or about to be made.
Flea Powder Maker: Ran out of time but I also think, like John, that Dorothy would have gotten it.
hanging tree i thought was one of coops best pics ever
Maravillosa, Maria Schell.
Maria Schell was Beautiful❤
Ms Mann was drop dead gorgeous!! 😳
As to the flea powder guy, this is the second time in as many days that I've seen John haul down the time limit on Dorothy when she was about to get it.
For example there was more than a minute left here after John shut the game down.
I claim unfair to labor!
Maria Schell was in hospital with lung infection and died on a heart attack! She also had Dementia! Maria(and brother Maximilian) was one of the biggest stars ever here in Austria! We called her "Seelchen" (Soul)! Nice to see her as an mystery guest!
Sounds like a Covid death doesn’t it?
@@dinahbrown902 Nope!
The ladies looked absolutely stunning tonight!
Caitlin Fitzpatrick - They did look stunning. I am amazed that the panelists keep referring to grown women as girls. I guess that must have been the way the world worked in those days
@@shirleyrombough8173 Despite what some claim today, the word wasn't always used as a put-down. In my mother's generation, born in the Twenties and Thirties, bright, well-educated upper middle class women often called themselves and each other "girls." On one episode of What's My Line, Arlene says "I'm a girl!"
Shirley Rombough hi 👋 was your
All but Dorothy
Who would’ve thought that a glamorous woman like that Mrs. Mann would’ve done what she did in the way of a profession!
Women are capable of anything! ♥
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I really enjoyed seeing Maria Schell as I haven't seen her very often. She's such a beautiful woman--it's hard to believe she's Maximilian Schell's older sister, and I've never gotten over the impression she made on me as a much younger man in her role as Grushka in Brothers Karamazov. It's always been a big disappointment to me that she didn't make very many movies, at least not many in the U.S.
The great Maria Schell made many good movies in germany and played Theatre in all classical roles. Maybe american Poole can see in RUclips some german movies of Maria Schell Witz english subtitels. she was a big star like Marlene Dietrich and Hildegard Knef ( Neff).
Is she related to Ronnie Schell?
During this period, Bob Cummings was dealing with an addiction to methamphetamine, although this was kept from the public. You could see in his eyes that something was slightly "off" about him.
Having watched 50-100 of these in the last few months, I can safely say that the question "is there a product connected with what you do?" is almost always misleading and has great potential to lead the panel in the wrong direction. I find on the times they do, they often get too focused on irrelevant details like "can a woman use it as much as a man?" when it's not that kind of thing or service at all...
I love this show, but sometimes feel John Daly misleads the panel a little... they're often very, very, very good at what they do and I've found they get the line more often than not (especially with the BC, DK, and AF trio)...
...however it seems that when they're spot on, they're SUPERB, but when they're not, they really get off track.
I give a few examples like the episode before this one (chronologically, via the playlist) about the woman who dived with the horse, she seemed ready to say "no" to a lot of questions I'd think would be a "yes".... same with the guy who was a termite exterminator a few episodes back, early question was "is there a product related to your line?" and John Daly was quick to say "yes". Oh? Really? What product would that be, exactly.... termites?? I mean, I can see a service being related, but product? Close I can figure would be the TERMITE SPRAY maybe.... but anyway, it pretty much made the panel go off on the wrong track the whole time, figuring the guy was more about selling something than providing a service.
Yet another example is this episode's "Tracks missles" again, the product connection question comes up, which I never see as a good thing the majority of the time. :p Sometimes it works, but more often than not it just seems to throw a gear in the guessing.
Sometimes I wish this show had a "yes", "no" and "irrelevant", because oftentimes the panel will get hung up on something that isn't relevant at all, like the one with the assistant to the Duchess of Windsor a few episodes ago. "Could I benefit from your services?" "Could both guys and girls use you?" "Could kids use you?" All technically "yes"', but just seemingly more importance is placed on them than there should be... sometimes it's frustrating because I wish John would divert more irrelevant lines of questioning to get them focused back on what is or is not important.
Of course, that's all part of the game, and oftentimes part of the fun. Obviously John wants the contestants to win and make money, but also, I think that laughs and entertainment are played more for the purpose than the actual game or guessing is. John sometimes seems to get bored easily and some episodes he seems to reach this point easier/faster...and when that happens and he gives his infamous "I'll give you all just one more minute:" line, I usually they're doomed by then. :p
In any case, aside from this novel of a comment, I love this show, love the regular panel, love most the guests and it's truly a treasure. A treasure that can still be (entertainingly) frustrating sometimes. :p
Steve
Whoa! John went full-on, hardass schoolmarm on Dorothy during the Maria Schell bit! This isn't the first time I've seen him get annoyed with her (and vice versa). Did they kind of hate each other in real life?
Bennett said Dorothy being a journalist first and a game show contestant second, snitched on the private lives of the panel. Mr Daley never trusted her.
Yes, that was a noticeable moment of friction but minor compared to the uncomfortable misunderstanding between John and Tony Randall in the Eva Marie Saint episode the previous September. John Daly, like all the panel on What's My Line, had a very full work schedule, his personal life was also bumpy at this period so I wouldn't be surprised if he exhibited some symptoms of irritability around this time.
'Mrs Mann works for the Radio Corporation of America'. Yessir, the owner of NBC-TV, CBS's deadly rival. Nice plug, John.
NBC is now owned by Comcast.
Two really intelligent women: note the action of the panel in dealing with them
I find it very annoying when they squeeze in a final guest after the celebrity. I would enjoy the panal having the time to have a full segment, but more often than not John has to call time.
Yes, and the last guests have been tricky ones. Like the beer taster and now the flea powder designer.
First contestant. Nice work at Cape Canaveral if you can get it.
soulierinvestments didn't you see hidden figures???
The marvelous erudite use of language on this show reminds me of my younger years. There are very few "ums" or "ahhs" here and certainly no persistent use of "like" thrown in for no reason. English now, at least in the USA, seems more text-like and without imagination.
Our whole way of life today has gone to the sewer.
You are both right.
Mrs. Mann, a beautiful and brainy first guest!
Wonder why, at the beginning, she kept her right hand and finger up in the air? Weird...
If you watch her facial expressions, you can see that she was becoming slightly irritated at John for twice overruling her 'no' answers.
In Germany there was this show auch.Da but were not allowed to speak the celebrities . We know but the voice right away. It's silly to pretend you do not know it ...
Say you know much about Germany? If so I got a riddle for you. Solve it and give your back a pat!
A Germany One?
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Where is Bennett?
On vacation or a speaking tour. Both of those happened quite often with him.
@@mikejschin Bennett was often on a speaking tour or a vacation but he seldom missed any of these episodes.
He died many years ago
John's line at the end of Mrs Mann segment could be deemed a litte risque yet total innocent at the time "If scientists looked like Mrs Mann that would make the Russians come..I know it's my mind
+mrpuniverse2 - Actually John didn't say that. What he said (If you listen carefully) is "If we had a few more scientists like that, we'd make those Russians HUM"
Back then women weren’t offended at being complimented. It was a more pleasant time.
Sexist AF. How could she possibly be pretty AND smart??
Thank you for clarifying that for dirty-minded people, like mrpuniverse!
That's not what he said. That would have been more than a little risque at the time.
John was seriously remiss in giving the panel two 'no' answers regarding whether or not the sewer pipe material was mined or quarried. The material must be removed from the ground by mechanical means, hence, it must be said to be mined or quarried, or at least, dug out of the ground, which is essentially the same thing. I don't know what he or anyone else would call it.
But what 'material' are you referring to?
I am curious was it just a weird dress or was she expecting a child?
I thought the same thing too. She looked a little older to be pregnant, but everyone looked older back then.
@@MrJoeybabe25 Looks like a maternity suit. She does seem older, but then my mom was 41 when I was born, in 1961.
She looks very pregnant to me.
What is up with John Daly being snide with Dorothy. It seems he does not like her or is mad at her. He just seems to be very short with her.
I hadn't noticed the snideness you're referring to, but there was bad blood between John and Dorothy by this point. She had written a column revealing some backstage gossip and John never forgave her for it (according to Bennett Cerf in an interview). I always thought they did a wonderful job of covering up the iciness between them, but you seem to have caught on to it without even knowing the story-- so I guess maybe not!
What's My Line?
I found this interesting interview with Bennett Cerf by Mike Wallace. I laughed at the commercial at the beginning.
www.hrc.utexas.edu/multimedia/video/2008/wallace/cerf_bennett.html
What's My Line?
I found it.
"At that time there was a rumor current that Mike Wallace was going to replace John Daly as the head of ABC news. Some nasty people thought that this may have been part of the reason that John didn't want him--because he heard these rumors. Dorothy promptly called up the Journal American and gave them the story. Monday it was on the front page of the Journal American. John Daly never forgave her for this. He said, “I thought that we were a family during 'What's My Line?‘We've been doing it for years. What I said there was in confidence.” Dorothy said, “Not at all. I'm a reporter and that was a big story. I certainly wasn't going to get scooped on my own story. You see, it was on the front page.” John said, “Yes...because of this idea that I was maybe doing it out of personal jealousy.” He never forgave her."
This makes the Mike Wallace interview that much sweeter.
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***** No, Robert, druidbros is 100% correct. John Daly was head of ABC news, not CBS.
Bennett was kicking himself for being away for the first contestant.
He is a closet sexual deviate.
*_Tracks Missiles at Cape Canaveral_*
*_Sells Sewer Pipe_*
*_Makes Flea Powder_*
Sometimes I do, or sometimes after, or even during, and sometimes not at all. 😄
I found Arlene's pronunciation of Ms. Schell's first name to be quite unusual - "Marry-ah".......?
It sounds as though she thought her name was "Michelle."
Arlene was mimicking the German pronunciation MAH-ri-ah.
It appears John was so flustered or actually annoyed by her, bringing up his South African connections that he forgot to ask her her marital status
B I G D E A L
So beauty is more important than brains??
Your looking for offense when none exists, but thank you for the virtue signal.
Look at Mrs. Mann's right hand when she first comes out and stands next to John. She looks like she's giving him the finger!
I noticed that! Weird. Probably just a nervous "affectation", as I think most of the guests were not accustomed to being filmed, bright lights, live audience, etc. I love the "shock" between her beauty and her rocket-science profession.
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Beautiful women wish that men would admire them for their brains and not their body.
Is the converse of the comment correct?
The reaction of the ladies to the whistling compliments boarders on The giddy.
But you keep believing what you want.
Bob Cummings gave one lecherous performance to the first contestant.
That wasn't lecherous, it was simply playing the game as it was played in those days. It was the standard (expected) reaction.
In his regular tv show, his character was a bachelor who was a professional photographer of lovely models and flirting with them...I think he was going to his stage character that the audience knew well...much like if Alan Alda had become his character Hawkeye from MASH during an interview. Cummings was playing it for laughs.
That’s how she presented herself
After watching about 4 years of these, the sexism is really starting to get to me.
Never mind.
That's because you were indoctrinated to hate what was harmless flirting and compliments.
I love Martin Gabel's voice. Sorry his son is a jerk
He is? Do tell ...
Dave Arcudi - Who was his son?
Yes, for sure! That voice, sang beautifully too. Martin Gabel certainly was no Adonis, but he had great presence, energy, humour and professional accomplishments. Wicked attractive!
Peter Gabel is FAR from "a jerk." You must be thinking of someone else.
David arcudi how is he a jerk I just noticed his whole life seemed to be scholastic area so don't know how much real life he has lived know he looks eccentric long grey hair in 70s He may be nice man most importantly
For the million time I will say I detest Arlene and her husband!!!
Bob Cummings is not too hot, "working for profit organization or make a profit..." and the Touching.... hope the missile will be useful.... just the looks. From starts she tell she is French, she wanted to be found. Good time using ???
For some reason, the European actors Hollywood imported after WW2 had nothing like the pull of earlier ones such as Garbo, Chevalier, Dietrich, Lamarr or Boyer. Neither Maria Schell nor her brother Maximilian scored in English-speaking films. Rather as she appears here, she came over as a timid, drippy little mouse. Americans preferred more full-blooded gals, e.g. Loren.
I hate your silly opinion about European actors
@@RonGerstein Don't hate. Refute.
I love the panelists and Daly. I watched them live on CBS as a child. However, in my maturity, and as someone who has studied regional accents professionally, the silliness of the accents, charming when I heard them as a child, grate on me now. Except for Bennett Cerf who's not on this edition, all of them have burnished their accents with a pretentiousness. Even Joplin, MO native Robert Cummings has strapped on several non-rhotic Rs for the occasion. Arlene Francis, especially, has modified her Boston accent so that it's impossible to tell where in the Boston area she's from. It's morphed into a overly ripe theatrical, mid-Atlantic accent. One would think she would drop it when she's not on the B'way stage. Daly, of course, has modified his Johannesburg/Boston accent as well. Cerf, on the other hand, has retained his Hell's Kitchen twang. Good for him! Indeed, he was the least pretentious of the regulars.
Hell's Kitchen? Cerf came from a prosperous middle class family. He was no street scrapper. He said he had been solvent and lucky from birth.
Hey! Maria didn't shake hand with John Daly! That's kinda awkward.
I think she just didn't notice his hand. She seemed pretty excited to be there.
He wasn't extending his hand for a handshake. It was a guiding gesture toward her seat.
I THINK SHE SAW THAT MR DALY'S HAND WAS DIRTY.
It appears out of distracted nervousness. Certainly not out of spite.
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what a gawd awful dress the 1st contestant wore
Cheap looking woman