I was able to squeeze out a 10.9 at 112mph in my 17 ZL1 (6spd) with only a CAI and Cat Back exhaust. The "no lift shift" and having R888r tires really make a HUGE difference.
Camaro needs a driver. No prep for run, totally relying on launch tech and looks like a missed gear on the first run, again, no prep of tires for either, Camaro spun bad all runs, great reaction, but that’s it.
I miss the days when gearheads built their street race cars instead of buy em'. I grew up in the 60s -70s when so many factory cars were wrenched into beasts! Just my IMO ✌
I agree with you there man but today the tech is so much better than it used to be so just because somebody buys a 650hp crank camaro doesn’t make it a street car or even a track car today. Today if you show up with anything less than 1000whp your getting drug and even then your probably getting drug so 650 crank running 14s is not considered race anymore. Yes a while back hell even in the early 2000s that was decent but today it’s just a normal sports car level. Also compared to older cars these newer cars are much heavier so more power doesn’t matter when you weigh more. Can never replace the golden era of muscle cars 60s and 70s. But you got to admire what they have done with the small block v8. Their still wrenched into beast today my friend nothing changed that just happened to be a novice in a store bought muscle car with no knowledge of drag racing his own car. I do my own wrenching no shops not quite as old as you but never the less the principles still stand.
A ZL1 should NOT be running a 14.4…either something is wrong with that particular car, or it was a very lousy driver, or both. I run high 11s in my 2SS. That ZL1 should be running low 11s or better easily
Exactly. I had a 71 Camaro in 1978 while in high school. Did most of the machining and prepping in Auto Shop and the rest done by a speed until I assembled the motor. Put it in hooked up everything with my buddy and raced it on Wednesdays in Northern California at Fremont Raceway against the valley guys. Just had a catch can.
Where is this track at? These cars are goin SLOW. My Bone stock Manual 6 2016 SS PB was 12.4@115mph. Even with that, I knew i left time on the table. this.. this is brutal
and also the 1LE struts are horrible for drag race. They are super stiff. You can clearly see it at the launch. The front doesnt go up at all. Watch all the other cars at launch, the rear gets pushed down and the front upwards by the power and the softer suspension. Thats a huge advantage and gives alot of grip, especially when its needed the most.
Haha! Neither can drag race for sheet! I ran 11.50 in my stock ZL1 first pass at the dragstrip on Michelin Pilot Sport 4S’s at 26 psi. 😂 GT350 won’t beat a ZL1 stock to stock just fyi.
it’s really hard to take a 6-700hp car down the track & expect good #’s out of it.. withOut a nice set of drag radials.. they just won’t hook, with that kinda power!
@@ThruTheWire2 yeah, they should’ve got mid-low12s on street tires.. but get some meat on the back, if you really want it to hook & show you what the car is really capable!
IM THE DRIVER in this video it was my first time racing lmfao but I got slicks and ran low 11s lmfao the Camaro had stock tires they weren’t hooking in this video u can see the car always spins and kicks obviously a lower hp car will spin less on stocks reason why ss ran faster
>Factory tune-up Dude... production cars can never be tuned. Firstly they can't account for everyone's taste and style. But more importantly they're made to last a long time, and any type of tuning does the exact opposite.
A ZL1 should NOT be running a 14.4…either something is wrong with that particular car, or it was a very lousy driver, or both. I run high 11s in my 2SS. That ZL1 should be running low 11s or better easily
@@brycenklinkowski5721The Red Camaro with the tall black spoiler is a ZL1 1LE. Look at the hood with the engine peeking thru. It’s a ZL1 1LE that the driver can’t drive.
Only because GM didn't want the Camaro as fast as the Vette. So they kept the same horsepower and torque every year while Ford added more hp with each model
@AnkhsZL1 but it's been proven that Gt500s will beat any Vette today now. I will say it is real close though with the C8 mid engine Ferrari and Ford Gt with little Lamborghini Vette looking. Seen way to many races on the Gt500. It's crazy fast. Why Dodge built the last Challenger with over 1000 Hp to beat it. I do miss the older looking Vettes. Style was great. Now they keep copying other manufacturers designs. Guess can't beat them join them.
The mustangs will always be top dogs compared to dodge and Camaro . I like the zl1 and the corvettes , that’s all I like from Chevy. Y’all can throw the rest of the models in the trash
Yall chevy diehards are hilarious.. me personally am not a single manufacturer guy but the gt350 aint no punk car..now if there was professional drivers in each car the camaro would have won IF the gt350 was stock.. but do we know these cars are stock?..
Bad driver bad setup for drag. I haven’t been a supporter of Chevrolet for quit some time now. The Camaro was an absolute disappointment in it design. No innovation with it and damn sure no upgraded models like for had with the GT350 and GT500 for example. You can’t tell me they weren’t capable of coming up with something so much better. Just look at the C-7 Stingray, Grand Sport, Z06 and ZR1 as well as the C8 models. The problem is they didn’t want the Camaro messing with their mighty corvette which is why they axed every other sports car GM made such as the Trans Am the SS G8, G8 GXP just to name a few. Yes they have the Cadillac CTS-V but like the Corvette Cadillac is treated as its own brand however they don’t want any other product to compete with them. They want to build a single engine and add horsepower each year through nothing more than a modified tune in the computer yet charge more money for it so that means they have to start pretty low to begin with so they have room to upgrade. It reminds me when Buick built the Grand National GNX and they’d smoke the mighty corvette with a turbo V-6 and it really pissed the GM executives off and the next thing you know the Grand National is no more. They killed it for that very reason along with the Buick Turbo Regal. Sorry GM when you build a car such as the Corvette and then claim it can beat a Ferrari or the Ford GT then build it so it will actually beat them every time and not by just a few inches one race and then lose the next 3. Also find new engineers to design your truck line as well. Used to love the Chevrolet and GMC truck line.
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Dude in zl1 making us look bad 😆 but I guess you gotta start somewhere
I was able to squeeze out a 10.9 at 112mph in my 17 ZL1 (6spd) with only a CAI and Cat Back exhaust. The "no lift shift" and having R888r tires really make a HUGE difference.
Camaro needs a driver. No prep for run, totally relying on launch tech and looks like a missed gear on the first run, again, no prep of tires for either, Camaro spun bad all runs, great reaction, but that’s it.
I agree but people got to start and learn some were right.
need to start with a nice set of drag radials.. if you’re gonna take a 6-700hp car down the track & expect good #’s!
They're dogs just face it!
Uh, Camero met a Shelby. The End.
braket racing if he would prep he would beat his time and not move on. I agree seems like they missed gear a few times
Traction is king. The ss ran 3 seconds quicker than the mustang 12.4 to 15.4 when both mph 93. Poor zl1 can't hook for anything
Keep 'em coming 👍 Thank you!
Driver mod needed on that zL1
Stang even gave him a head start cause he was sleeping at the light and beat him ! I'm a ford guy but that camaro should've won !
I agree and I’m also a ford guy.
A better race would've been vs a gt500
Clean video but you need to warm the tires up. Keep after it.
I miss the days when gearheads built their street race cars instead of buy em'. I grew up in the 60s -70s when so many factory cars were wrenched into beasts! Just my IMO ✌
I agree with you there man but today the tech is so much better than it used to be so just because somebody buys a 650hp crank camaro doesn’t make it a street car or even a track car today. Today if you show up with anything less than 1000whp your getting drug and even then your probably getting drug so 650 crank running 14s is not considered race anymore. Yes a while back hell even in the early 2000s that was decent but today it’s just a normal sports car level. Also compared to older cars these newer cars are much heavier so more power doesn’t matter when you weigh more. Can never replace the golden era of muscle cars 60s and 70s. But you got to admire what they have done with the small block v8. Their still wrenched into beast today my friend nothing changed that just happened to be a novice in a store bought muscle car with no knowledge of drag racing his own car. I do my own wrenching no shops not quite as old as you but never the less the principles still stand.
A ZL1 should NOT be running a 14.4…either something is wrong with that particular car, or it was a very lousy driver, or both. I run high 11s in my 2SS. That ZL1 should be running low 11s or better easily
Exactly. I had a 71 Camaro in 1978 while in high school. Did most of the machining and prepping in Auto Shop and the rest done by a speed until I assembled the motor. Put it in hooked up everything with my buddy and raced it on Wednesdays in Northern California at Fremont Raceway against the valley guys. Just had a catch can.
@@_CYB0RG_My Camaro when it was stock and in auto would do that. These guys must have never driven before.
Where is this track at? These cars are goin SLOW. My Bone stock Manual 6 2016 SS PB was 12.4@115mph. Even with that, I knew i left time on the table. this.. this is brutal
Lol you can't expect perfect magazine times every run. This is what you get at your average test n tune night!
zl1 here got bad starts. also the 1LE front with the flaps and the big ass wing slows the hell out at drag race
and also the 1LE struts are horrible for drag race. They are super stiff.
You can clearly see it at the launch. The front doesnt go up at all. Watch all the other cars at launch, the rear gets pushed down and the front upwards by the power and the softer suspension. Thats a huge advantage and gives alot of grip, especially when its needed the most.
14s?! Wow i ran that in a 4 door Cutlass with a chevy 350 motor in it. With just a intake, headers and a holly 650 15 years ago. That dont make sense
I ran 14s in my basic stock gt no launch control on street tires
had a 72 àmc gremliin faster than that
Haha! Neither can drag race for sheet! I ran 11.50 in my stock ZL1 first pass at the dragstrip on Michelin Pilot Sport 4S’s at 26 psi. 😂 GT350 won’t beat a ZL1 stock to stock just fyi.
Camaro definitely needs a driver
The last mustang was a V6?
it’s really hard to take a 6-700hp car down the track & expect good #’s out of it.. withOut a nice set of drag radials.. they just won’t hook, with that kinda power!
BS. Even a bad driver should have been able to run high 12’s in a ZL1 at the very least. This driver stinks
I think a tire warm up would have done wonders here.
@@ThruTheWire2 yeah, they should’ve got mid-low12s on street tires.. but get some meat on the back, if you really want it to hook & show you what the car is really capable!
Zl1 missing gears?
IM THE DRIVER in this video it was my first time racing lmfao but I got slicks and ran low 11s lmfao the Camaro had stock tires they weren’t hooking in this video u can see the car always spins and kicks obviously a lower hp car will spin less on stocks reason why ss ran faster
A Pro Tree? Ouch that's tough.
This is hilarious. Neither driver knew how to drive and somehow the Camaro won. The Camaro should have won but this was just weird.
Oof. The owner must have been disappointed. Even the Camaro SS beat it, lol! However, wherever this track is, it must be way above sea level.
ohhhh yeahhh all hail Chevy And drag racing ❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Who won between ss& mustang
Whoever is driving that Zl1 needs to sell it cuz.PERIOD!!!
The guy in the zl1 is scared to press the gas! 😂 Plus that high wing isn't helping!
HGTV
That was like watching a race of turtle 🐢 vs a snail 🐌
Common mustang W
Handicap mode activated.
>Factory tune-up
Dude... production cars can never be tuned. Firstly they can't account for everyone's taste and style. But more importantly they're made to last a long time, and any type of tuning does the exact opposite.
A ZL1 should NOT be running a 14.4…either something is wrong with that particular car, or it was a very lousy driver, or both. I run high 11s in my 2SS. That ZL1 should be running low 11s or better easily
Camaro needs a driver that's it..
Did they even use the gas pedals, both looked abnormally slow
Driver mod is a mandatory 😢 wtf was that dude texting making a sandwich and checking his email
Both drivers need toyotas. They arent ready.
Neither driver could shift😮😂
What no burnout to heat the tires.😂
Terrible times put up by that zl1!! Needs a new driver!!
Flat plane crank v8 sound also camaro zl1
So you put a supercharged6.2 car against a non super charged 5.2 car .. and look the results 😂😂😂
GTR ftw!
These guys look like they have permits only, let's hope they pass the driving test cuz track officials should have schooled them at tech.
Not only is that year of Camaro the most butt ugl car GM has ever built but it is a dog!🤑
PS my engine SBC HP 450
You know what ZL1 stands for? Zero to one mile an hour in 3 seconds 🤣🤣🤣🤣
it's not a ZL1 genius if you actually knew cars you'd know it's an SS 1LE. couldn't imagine being this unaware and unintelligent💀
@@brycenklinkowski5721The Red Camaro with the tall black spoiler is a ZL1 1LE. Look at the hood with the engine peeking thru. It’s a ZL1 1LE that the driver can’t drive.
@@_CYB0RG_ wait i'm talking about the wrong one oops my bad😂
What about the L?
Well considering the Ford is 1000 lbs light and not the same class of car yeah
Horrible times i could of got better times with my zl1 with the top down😂
ZL1 with a blower got whooped by that 350
Gt350 all day😂
Whoever is driving that zl1 can't drive. That car should be running low 11's at around 127 stock.
Ford power 💪
I have a a PT cruiser gt that runs mid 13s he needs to sell that car and get a Prius the way he's shifting to save gas ffs
Guys also braking 50 feet before the finish line. My stock Mustang run a faster quarter than the last two geeze
Go mustang
Both looked slow to me, my bimmer would crush them both
Already knew Shelby would win but the Shelby driver also fell asleep at the light. He did catch and win but Geez them Shelbys run way faster times.
Only because GM didn't want the Camaro as fast as the Vette. So they kept the same horsepower and torque every year while Ford added more hp with each model
@AnkhsZL1 but it's been proven that Gt500s will beat any Vette today now. I will say it is real close though with the C8 mid engine Ferrari and Ford Gt with little Lamborghini Vette looking. Seen way to many races on the Gt500. It's crazy fast. Why Dodge built the last Challenger with over 1000 Hp to beat it. I do miss the older looking Vettes. Style was great. Now they keep copying other manufacturers designs. Guess can't beat them join them.
@@lincolnls0416 I didn't know that. I just watched videos where the vette is destroying Lamborghini and Ferrari's.
The Camaro driver keep missing gear and he shift slowly.
ZL1 driver does not know what he's doing. That's an 11.5 second car not 14.5 seconds.
My 1980 Firebird is a 11.7 sec. 1/4 mi. New cars are slow. !!!!
The mustangs will always be top dogs compared to dodge and Camaro . I like the zl1 and the corvettes , that’s all I like from Chevy. Y’all can throw the rest of the models in the trash
One slow ss
its a ZL1
What were they racing uphill? Those numbers were pathetic
Excuse me I have a question, why the fuck are these "muscle" cars so slow? Sure DA and elevation not great in Vegas but damn...
Ooof. 650hp, m6 and a struggling driver.
The guy running the Camaro sucks. He obviously doesn't know how to use the tree or warm his tires.
Wtf camaro shoulda won that race
Yall chevy diehards are hilarious.. me personally am not a single manufacturer guy but the gt350 aint no punk car..now if there was professional drivers in each car the camaro would have won IF the gt350 was stock.. but do we know these cars are stock?..
Slow-maro......
That ain't y real race!
What a 💩 show
Camaro spoiler, 🤢
Ya duermete gringo
Bad driver bad setup for drag. I haven’t been a supporter of Chevrolet for quit some time now. The Camaro was an absolute disappointment in it design. No innovation with it and damn sure no upgraded models like for had with the GT350 and GT500 for example.
You can’t tell me they weren’t capable of coming up with something so much better. Just look at the C-7 Stingray, Grand Sport, Z06 and ZR1 as well as the C8 models. The problem is they didn’t want the Camaro messing with their mighty corvette which is why they axed every other sports car GM made such as the Trans Am the SS G8, G8 GXP just to name a few. Yes they have the Cadillac CTS-V but like the Corvette Cadillac is treated as its own brand however they don’t want any other product to compete with them. They want to build a single engine and add horsepower each year through nothing more than a modified tune in the computer yet charge more money for it so that means they have to start pretty low to begin with so they have room to upgrade. It reminds me when Buick built the Grand National GNX and they’d smoke the mighty corvette with a turbo V-6 and it really pissed the GM executives off and the next thing you know the Grand National is no more. They killed it for that very reason along with the Buick Turbo Regal.
Sorry GM when you build a car such as the Corvette and then claim it can beat a Ferrari or the Ford GT then build it so it will actually beat them every time and not by just a few inches one race and then lose the next 3. Also find new engineers to design your truck line as well. Used to love the Chevrolet and GMC truck line.
Zl1 needs a driver there's no way that 350 wins 🤦
Camaro drive is terrible. As soon as he went around the water box I knew it was over. Trash...!
That’s an SS 1LE with a wing, not ZL1
It’s a ZL1 1LE.
ZL1 is not a straight line car. De dee dee
Amateur night
WOW!!! Lotta poor driving in this video.
You Chevy guys are full of excuses
Could you find two more muscle cars that look identical? Lame
Camero driver is lame
Dude in ZL1 does not know how to shift ain't not way that 350 beat No ZLI
Worst driver ever
14's ? Pathetic! It's just a body kit v6, if this is a 1000ft then even worse
Take the spoiler off, and learn how to drive the car