I already have another custom on the way but for those in the market, support Nick if you can (or any small builders really). People are not in this for the money, and Nick is one of the nicer guys around!
Very, very clean, steel bike. I personally like exposed seat post too, along with a sloping top tube that is neither too horizontal as in a road bike, nor too sloping as in a downhill bike. Whippet has the top tube at a perfect angle, that lends a shorter seat tube to display the seat post. I also like how the carbon seat post at the same angle and color as the fork really sets off the bike. Also, as the bike is gazed at, the small details start to emerge that would give the owner a growing sense of appreciation. Only thing I would want is a custom paint job in a two-step Prismatic Powders powder coat. Thank you for the video, Nick.
Love the ethos of this bike, and the 3D printed elements! I've made a couple widgets like that for cable routing on my old Giant hardtail. Congratulations, and I hope they sell well!
Shows me my AWOL was well ahead of the curve. Long seatpost extension, long top tube, short stem, long chainstay (and adjustable!), external full len cable routing with no zip ties (which I agree 100% makes it easier to maintain). What I like about yours is the multiple frame sizes. I have heard bike fitters say that bikes that come with short stems as standard can be harder to adjust the fit via stem length as it affects the steering more. Makes total sense. But with all your sizes, this will not be a problem. I think you take taken very wise choices here in what works. Also the longer top tube and shorter stem adds more comfort. Cy (Cotic) said that in an interview with cyclingabout. Q. is the frame 100% heat treated? My friend has a cotic and he broke the rear stays as they were not heat treated, but standard cromo. Admittedly he was a heavy and powerful rider. Your frame has even more clearance tan my AWOL, which was ahead of its time. Does it have mounts for mudguards? I love lots of mounting points for everything!
Very excited about this bike, one question can I run full fenders, I don't see a top fender mount. Unfortunately I made a deal with my wife that I must lose 25 lbs before buying a new bike, wish me luck lol.
Nice looking bicycle! What is the material and lifetime of the cable guides? I ask as I had a Kestrel with guides that dissolved if they were exposed to sweat. Once Kestrel went under, a nightmare trying to find replacements. Someone was able to get some 3D prints of them but that is outside my wheelhouse.
The guides are made from polylactic acid, aka PLA. If a guide breaks I'll send you a new one. I also plan to have downloadable files for 3d printing them yourself. Even if you don't have a 3d printer, you can give the file to an online service or a friend to print for you.
Where is the useful geometry numbers like top tube length and front centre? We sit down on gravel bikes 90% of the time you know, none of this video showed anyone actually riding it. Why are the chain stays so short too?
Top tube length can be misleading these days. Did you try using the Frame Fit Calculator on my website? It's a much more accurate way to determine which frame will fit you. I wish I could have filmed more action shots of the bike but in the winter the dirt roads get peanut butter mud. The chainstays grow with each frame size. This is to give a more consistent weight distribution across the size range.
I rely on effective top tube measurements to find a frame that fits - not sure why this important spec is missing from the geo chart? Looks like a great bikepacking/Tour Divide bike though.
Have a look at the Frame Fit Calculator just below the geometry chart on my website. That'll give you a much more accurate fit suggestion for the Whippet.
Forgive me, but I feel you should include the stem size that people used on their old bike in the calulation? As some bikes they are coming from may also have the progressive geom to varying degrees. And people also adjust the standard stem to fine tune their fit. Unless I missed something?
Unless I'm misunderstanding you, the calculator does factor in stem length. If you take a look at the instructions for using the calculator, you'll see that the measurements are based off the X and Y coordinates of the BB to the stem.
Totally! This stuff was never meant to last and invented for competitive racing, where it can be changed out regularly BEFORE it breaks. Carbon fibre reinforced plastics are nasty in that regard, they go with a big bang from one second to the next. I've destroyed many such parts in testing. Steel (or aluminium) tell you when they're hurt...
Those parts to hold the cable on the frame aren't for zip ties. There's a specific, convenient and pretty plastic part that clicks right onto them and you should know that.
Those clips you're talking about are a pain to install and remove IMO. Most people resort to using zip ties because they don't like messing with those clips. The solution I'm offering requires no clips. My guides can also be removed in case you plan to run a wireless drivetrain. Then you don't have unnecessary guides dangling off your chainstay. It's a small thing that's really not that important, but I like sweating the small stuff :)
@@manzanitacycles I don't understand, I have such clips on my bike, they are not a pain to install and remove for me. I believe most people resort to using zip ties because they don't know or don't have such clips. Your guides look fine though.
I mean if you enjoy under biking then you could use it as a mountain bike. I've taken my Whippet on some easy singletrack. But it shines going fast on dirt roads.
Cyclocross bikes have clearance for what 33mm-wide tires? They have tight geo for making sharp low-speed turns. They also typically have level top tubes or close to it to provide shouldering room. To me that sounds like a bad gravel bike. The Whippet can clear a 57mm tire and has a longer wheelbase for more stability at speed. It's more capable at covering ground quickly on dirt roads. It has a shorter seat tube to provide more exposed seat post for improved flex on rough roads. Can you ride a cyclocross bike on gravel roads? Of course. But a gravel bike is better.
If I had the frames made overseas they would be cheaper. But instead little old me makes them one at a time. If you have suggestions how to operate a profitable bicycle manufacturing business in the US, I would genuinely appreciate the insight.
No. I was around in the 1990s. This bike not only rides better on gravel roads than 90s mtbs but it rides better on trails too. FWIW, I do own a similar bike with similar geo. This bike looks great, congrats! Great name and design.
...when a good bike comes along...you must whippit...
.... Whip it Gooooooood !😂
before the cream sits out tooo long
@@stuartbarber7784 We R Devo 🪖⛑
you beat me to it
I already have another custom on the way but for those in the market, support Nick if you can (or any small builders really).
People are not in this for the money, and Nick is one of the nicer guys around!
Best of luck, great looking bike!
Looks incredible!
Nice bike.
Well thought through, great detail, BS-free. Good luck, you deserve it. I would..... but I'm 80.
Very, very clean, steel bike. I personally like exposed seat post too, along with a sloping top tube that is neither too horizontal as in a road bike, nor too sloping as in a downhill bike. Whippet has the top tube at a perfect angle, that lends a shorter seat tube to display the seat post. I also like how the carbon seat post at the same angle and color as the fork really sets off the bike. Also, as the bike is gazed at, the small details start to emerge that would give the owner a growing sense of appreciation. Only thing I would want is a custom paint job in a two-step Prismatic Powders powder coat. Thank you for the video, Nick.
what a beauty
Cool 👍👍👍👍. Best of luck with this awesome design
Wow this seems pretty well thought out. I think some bolt holes on the underside of the top tube would be nice for adding bolt on bags.
Bike has the right lines to it, looks good
Love the ethos of this bike, and the 3D printed elements! I've made a couple widgets like that for cable routing on my old Giant hardtail. Congratulations, and I hope they sell well!
Tried the fit calculator and finally a frame small enough for me! And external cable routings ❤
I love everything about it. 💯 🤙🏼
great bike name. looks great too.
looks supeeeeer nice ! We have 7 whippets and breed them too so I am very excited about the name too :D
7 whippets? Wow, a whole pack!
External cable routing is the best feature!
Shows me my AWOL was well ahead of the curve. Long seatpost extension, long top tube, short stem, long chainstay (and adjustable!), external full len cable routing with no zip ties (which I agree 100% makes it easier to maintain). What I like about yours is the multiple frame sizes. I have heard bike fitters say that bikes that come with short stems as standard can be harder to adjust the fit via stem length as it affects the steering more. Makes total sense. But with all your sizes, this will not be a problem. I think you take taken very wise choices here in what works. Also the longer top tube and shorter stem adds more comfort. Cy (Cotic) said that in an interview with cyclingabout. Q. is the frame 100% heat treated? My friend has a cotic and he broke the rear stays as they were not heat treated, but standard cromo. Admittedly he was a heavy and powerful rider. Your frame has even more clearance tan my AWOL, which was ahead of its time. Does it have mounts for mudguards? I love lots of mounting points for everything!
I had a great time w my awol… traded it for some mtb gear, missing that bike! Wondering what to get….
The model name makes sense! I have a whippet dog. Sweet bike
Whippets are the best!
Damn, price + import fees would eat me, but Ma Dude, you just built MY bike ;D
Very excited about this bike, one question can I run full fenders, I don't see a top fender mount. Unfortunately I made a deal with my wife that I must lose 25 lbs before buying a new bike, wish me luck lol.
There are no fender mounts, but I can add them to your frame if you want to customize it.
@undertwotimes I have the same deal with my wife...I have 20 lbs to go. Coming back from a knee replacement and she keeps making cakes and pies...
can you share the stl for the bolt-on guides? :) it's a wonderful idea! thanks
Yes, I plan to offer them for download on my site. I'll try to get them up on the site this week.
@@manzanitacycles many thanks! Wonderful bycicles
Nice looking bicycle! What is the material and lifetime of the cable guides? I ask as I had a Kestrel with guides that dissolved if they were exposed to sweat. Once Kestrel went under, a nightmare trying to find replacements. Someone was able to get some 3D prints of them but that is outside my wheelhouse.
The guides are made from polylactic acid, aka PLA. If a guide breaks I'll send you a new one. I also plan to have downloadable files for 3d printing them yourself. Even if you don't have a 3d printer, you can give the file to an online service or a friend to print for you.
@@manzanitacycles cool!
Shipping these to the EU would probably add a lot to the cost right? They look gorgeous and I agree totally with the design philosophy
Yes. Sadly. Shipping rates plus import taxes make sending frames to the EU very expensive.
@@manzanitacyclesthanks anyway. Wish you success on your journey!
Can you use a front derailer?
The Whippet is optimized for 1x drivetrains.
Could you run a 2x drivetrain up front with a suitable size tyre?
The frame is optimized for 1x setups.
Im in for that gravel frameset but im poor and in college so i might need the layaway plan…..are you in Portland ?
I'm in Reno, NV.
Panasonic provides the largest number of sizes with 10mm increment.
You made a whippet. I am a whippet.
My dog is a whippet. You two should be friends!
Where is the useful geometry numbers like top tube length and front centre? We sit down on gravel bikes 90% of the time you know, none of this video showed anyone actually riding it. Why are the chain stays so short too?
Top tube length can be misleading these days. Did you try using the Frame Fit Calculator on my website? It's a much more accurate way to determine which frame will fit you.
I wish I could have filmed more action shots of the bike but in the winter the dirt roads get peanut butter mud.
The chainstays grow with each frame size. This is to give a more consistent weight distribution across the size range.
I rely on effective top tube measurements to find a frame that fits - not sure why this important spec is missing from the geo chart? Looks like a great bikepacking/Tour Divide bike though.
Have a look at the Frame Fit Calculator just below the geometry chart on my website. That'll give you a much more accurate fit suggestion for the Whippet.
Forgive me, but I feel you should include the stem size that people used on their old bike in the calulation? As some bikes they are coming from may also have the progressive geom to varying degrees. And people also adjust the standard stem to fine tune their fit. Unless I missed something?
Unless I'm misunderstanding you, the calculator does factor in stem length. If you take a look at the instructions for using the calculator, you'll see that the measurements are based off the X and Y coordinates of the BB to the stem.
The best part it's MADE of steel, it'll out last any and all CARBON frames.
Totally! This stuff was never meant to last and invented for competitive racing, where it can be changed out regularly BEFORE it breaks. Carbon fibre reinforced plastics are nasty in that regard, they go with a big bang from one second to the next. I've destroyed many such parts in testing. Steel (or aluminium) tell you when they're hurt...
Those parts to hold the cable on the frame aren't for zip ties. There's a specific, convenient and pretty plastic part that clicks right onto them and you should know that.
Those clips you're talking about are a pain to install and remove IMO. Most people resort to using zip ties because they don't like messing with those clips. The solution I'm offering requires no clips. My guides can also be removed in case you plan to run a wireless drivetrain. Then you don't have unnecessary guides dangling off your chainstay. It's a small thing that's really not that important, but I like sweating the small stuff :)
@@manzanitacycles I don't understand, I have such clips on my bike, they are not a pain to install and remove for me. I believe most people resort to using zip ties because they don't know or don't have such clips.
Your guides look fine though.
Mountain bike with drop bars
I mean if you enjoy under biking then you could use it as a mountain bike. I've taken my Whippet on some easy singletrack. But it shines going fast on dirt roads.
Why flat mount though
It's the standard for gravel bikes.
Is a Gravel bike what we used to call Cyclocross?
Cyclocross bikes have clearance for what 33mm-wide tires? They have tight geo for making sharp low-speed turns. They also typically have level top tubes or close to it to provide shouldering room. To me that sounds like a bad gravel bike. The Whippet can clear a 57mm tire and has a longer wheelbase for more stability at speed. It's more capable at covering ground quickly on dirt roads. It has a shorter seat tube to provide more exposed seat post for improved flex on rough roads. Can you ride a cyclocross bike on gravel roads? Of course. But a gravel bike is better.
Like Alloy tbh eash to there own
Steel is also an alloy ;>)
I like the frame. But nothing else.
Good news! I'll make a frame for you.
Bs price
If I had the frames made overseas they would be cheaper. But instead little old me makes them one at a time. If you have suggestions how to operate a profitable bicycle manufacturing business in the US, I would genuinely appreciate the insight.
Well, believe it or not, but they just reinvented the 1990's MTBs!
90s MTBs are great. I loved my Rockhopper. But this bike is significantly different than those bikes even though they can ride on the same terrain.
No. I was around in the 1990s. This bike not only rides better on gravel roads than 90s mtbs but it rides better on trails too. FWIW, I do own a similar bike with similar geo.
This bike looks great, congrats! Great name and design.
Ignoramus, you know nothing!
I love when people buy overpriced stuff 😛
Get rid of the talking head, show more bike.
Good feedback. I agree. No one wants to see my radio face :)
@@manzanitacyclesI liked it.
@@manzanitacycles count me, now it's 2 wanting to see your face vs that one other person