Great picking,the lock manufacturer's are seriously getting their act together When it comes to sidebar variations now.as if the keyway was not tricky enough The sidebar adds that extra dimension of frustration! Good all round skill demonstrated to beat this very good lock Thanks again for sharing your skills, billbo.
Yah, I have not had the opportunity to try out the pin tumbler version of the EPS, but the keyway on this is intimidating. Fortunately, if you have a thin enough pick with the right shape, you can go up from the bottom using the channels the pins sit in that are cut through the warding.
I have a heap of those but the 6 slider version, I have not been able to get any open. As you said the false gates are pretty tough to get out of. Great picking mate👍🇦🇺😊
Tuff lock! nastey looking bitting. its fortunate that you are able to pick from the bottom with the proper tools. Great lob!! Question.... Where do you find all these great locks ????
Thank you! This particular one I bought as part of a bulk purchase from a website in Germany. They don't ship to the US, so I had a fellow locksport member buy them and ship them to me (DHL took 3 months to get here)
I couldn't make recommendations in general as a lock's security goes far beyond how difficult it is to pick. Something could be very difficult to pick, but very easy to drill, or even pull out, or defeat via other methods. I just pick as a hobby so am not a security professional.
Like do you think a burglar could pick this lock 360 degrees? I saw many you tube videos of Evva EPS being picked, but not many of them picking it 360 degrees which I assume a burglar would need to do in order to get in.
@@johnsmall3105 personally, whether a lock can be picked or not is very low on my list of security concerns (unless the lock can be simply picked with a toothpick, which this one cannot).
@@norlin76 Since it's easy for a burglar to snap a handle and gain access to a cylinder, do you think it would be a good idea to weld the outside handle to the door instead of letting it be fixed by screws? Provided that you can still change the cylinder when needed by removing the plate that's on the inside of the door and then removing the cylinder from the inside
Thanks! If someone sent me one, I'd pick it! But the internals on it look like it just has a few spools and that the keypins have serrations to catch oversets, it doesn't look particularly difficult on paper.
@@norlin76 "Special, additional side latches in the shape of a bobbin cause blocking of the insert when trying to open it, using a false key or a lockpick"
@@andrzejabramczyk3600 very interesting! Will need someone to send me one :) Doesn't show any of that on the drawing I saw so I'll need to do a little deeper research!
@@andrzejabramczyk3600 well, I've spoken with @yabende www.youtube.com/@yabende and he's going to get a hold of one, so I'm sure we'll see one picked in the very near future!
It was a lot harder than I had anticipated for the ranking of this lock...hit false gates on 4 out of 5 of the sliders (5th only would come into play if overset).
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Great picking,the lock manufacturer's are seriously getting their act together
When it comes to sidebar variations now.as if the keyway was not tricky enough
The sidebar adds that extra dimension of frustration!
Good all round skill demonstrated to beat this very good lock
Thanks again for sharing your skills, billbo.
Yah, I have not had the opportunity to try out the pin tumbler version of the EPS, but the keyway on this is intimidating. Fortunately, if you have a thin enough pick with the right shape, you can go up from the bottom using the channels the pins sit in that are cut through the warding.
You know the lock is tight when you see an SSDeV in your hands. Nice job man, definitely seems like it’s on the harder side of Purple.
For sure, I don't use the SSDeV unless I have to...not my favorite pick
The passive sidebar is to lock up the core if it is turned without a key in it. You have to find that tiny little nubbin to get it out of the trap
Ahhh, thank you! I guess I never turned the plug far enough to experience this!!
I have a heap of those but the 6 slider version, I have not been able to get any open. As you said the false gates are pretty tough to get out of. Great picking mate👍🇦🇺😊
Yah, the false gates in there are no joke and I had to bounce the pick a lot (probably see that in the video). Thanks for visiting!
Sounds like there is some super weird feedback on that thing, great job dude!
Heh, I'll have to listen to the sounds...I don't wear my headphones while I pick usually, so I don't get the same amplified sound feedback :)
@@norlin76 ahh, just the way you described it sounded funky
Tuff lock! nastey looking bitting. its fortunate that you are able to pick from the bottom with the proper tools. Great lob!! Question.... Where do you find all these great locks ????
Thank you! This particular one I bought as part of a bulk purchase from a website in Germany. They don't ship to the US, so I had a fellow locksport member buy them and ship them to me (DHL took 3 months to get here)
Nicely explained.
Thank you, it did run a lot longer than I had anticipated!
Would you recommend putting this lock on a front door?
I couldn't make recommendations in general as a lock's security goes far beyond how difficult it is to pick. Something could be very difficult to pick, but very easy to drill, or even pull out, or defeat via other methods. I just pick as a hobby so am not a security professional.
@@norlin76 I was wondering if you would recommend it as a lock that provides sufficient protection against lock picking specifically? Thank you.
Like do you think a burglar could pick this lock 360 degrees? I saw many you tube videos of Evva EPS being picked, but not many of them picking it 360 degrees which I assume a burglar would need to do in order to get in.
@@johnsmall3105 personally, whether a lock can be picked or not is very low on my list of security concerns (unless the lock can be simply picked with a toothpick, which this one cannot).
@@norlin76 Since it's easy for a burglar to snap a handle and gain access to a cylinder, do you think it would be a good idea to weld the outside handle to the door instead of letting it be fixed by screws? Provided that you can still change the cylinder when needed by removing the plate that's on the inside of the door and then removing the cylinder from the inside
*Please try with Polish Łucznik E8, it will be suprise*
Thanks! If someone sent me one, I'd pick it! But the internals on it look like it just has a few spools and that the keypins have serrations to catch oversets, it doesn't look particularly difficult on paper.
@@norlin76 it has an internal lock for full rotation, no one has beaten it
@@norlin76 "Special, additional side latches in the shape of a bobbin cause blocking of the insert when trying to open it, using a false key or a lockpick"
@@andrzejabramczyk3600 very interesting! Will need someone to send me one :) Doesn't show any of that on the drawing I saw so I'll need to do a little deeper research!
@@andrzejabramczyk3600 well, I've spoken with @yabende www.youtube.com/@yabende and he's going to get a hold of one, so I'm sure we'll see one picked in the very near future!
yours looked alot harder to pick than mine, nastier keyway and lots of false gates. mine had only one that did anything
It was a lot harder than I had anticipated for the ranking of this lock...hit false gates on 4 out of 5 of the sliders (5th only would come into play if overset).
nice job.. :-)
Thank you! Cheers!